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Speaker 1: Now All Birds founder and former All Whites footballer Tim

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Speaker 1: Brown has brought into the New Auckland FC, a league franchise.

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Speaker 1: He's taken a one point five percent a one point

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Speaker 1: five six percent stake in the club, alongside former All

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Speaker 1: Whites Winston Reed and Nowhere Hicki and Tim Brown's in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Hey Tim, how are you doing? Tim? I'm well,

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Speaker 1: but how have you changed loyalties like this? You used

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Speaker 1: to play for the Phoenix man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I did. Yeah, and my family's still in

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Speaker 2: Wellington and I grew up in Wellington. But look, the

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Speaker 2: opportunity came when I met Bill Foley a number of

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Speaker 2: months ago and I jumped on it. Look, I think

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Speaker 2: this is this is about New Zealand. It's about New

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Speaker 2: Zealand sport. It's about one of the biggest cities in

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Speaker 2: the world that doesn't you'd have a professional football team.

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Speaker 2: And it's so exciting and it's really a privilege to

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Speaker 2: be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you reckon that this could turn into

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Speaker 1: something bigger than the Phoenix has managed to turn into

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Speaker 1: in Wellington?

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Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's I mean club initially and then it'll be

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Speaker 2: a women's club. You know, I think there's so much

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Speaker 2: potential for the sport of football to connect into Asia

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Speaker 2: and into the world. I think coming off the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: you know, anyone who doesn't understand the power of sport,

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Speaker 2: you know, to connect people and for it to be

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Speaker 2: a way that New Zealand values are exported to the world.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're looking at this the right way.

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Speaker 2: And certainly as someone who lives in America, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Football World Cup's going to be here in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, the Olympics in twenty twenty eight, the Rugby

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Speaker 2: World Cup in twenty thirty one, so you know, sported

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Speaker 2: its best does some great stuff for us. And then

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Speaker 2: on a grassroots level, you know, there's forty odd thousand

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Speaker 2: young kids playing soccer, you know, every weekend in Auckland

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Speaker 2: and seven year old clubs, and then the rivalry with

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Speaker 2: Wellington is only going to be a good thing. So

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Speaker 2: I see nothing but good coming from this.

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Speaker 1: But okay, so what do you think is the secret

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Speaker 1: ingredient that makes the Auckland Club bigger than the Phoenix?

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Speaker 1: Is it, Bill Foley? Is it the size of Auckland.

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Speaker 2: What is it well, nothing, Yeah, it hasn't played a game.

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Speaker 2: And Wellington, I know I've played for them, has done

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Speaker 2: a great job and last year on the field performed

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Speaker 2: really really well. I mean, I think what Bill Foley

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Speaker 2: brings first of all is a deep love for New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and he's also got a really extraordinary expertise in

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Speaker 2: building successful clubs. The Las Vegas Golden Knights is the

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Speaker 2: ice hockey team in the NHL, arguably one of the

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Speaker 2: most successful new franchises in American sport, which is saying something.

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Speaker 2: No one thought that ice hockey could work in the desert,

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Speaker 2: and he bought it there and then won a Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup in the third or fourth season, and it's now

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Speaker 2: one of the most valuable franchises in that league. What

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Speaker 2: he's done with Bourne, with in the Premier League and

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Speaker 2: then now growing network of football clubs around the world

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Speaker 2: in France and Scotland and other places, it's a really

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Speaker 2: amazing opportunity for young Kiwi boys and girls and players

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Speaker 2: to have an opportunity at this club and hopefully take

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Speaker 2: their talents around the world on the back of it.

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you about all birds, do you

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Speaker 1: have much confidences can turn around. I'm getting a bit worried.

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Speaker 2: Good pivot, I really do. You know? People forget that

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Speaker 2: All Birds is not even ten years old. But before

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Speaker 2: it became a business in San Francisco, you know, I

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Speaker 2: know personally it was a bad idea for a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: people came out of the woodwork to say it would

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Speaker 2: never work, and then we had a glorious run and

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Speaker 2: then now we're back in another chapter where people are

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Speaker 2: doubting it. Look, we just came out of a board

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Speaker 2: meeting today. There's so many good things happening. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of work to do, but gosh, the comeback would

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Speaker 2: be really lovely and I believe it can happen.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys preparing though, for the chance of delisting?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Right, so you're confidence of what it'll stay on the

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Speaker 1: NASDAC Yes, I love the confidence. Tim, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: really appreciate your time, mate and thing. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: coping with that pervot. That's Tim Brown, All Birds founder

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Speaker 1: and former All Whites footballer.

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