1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:15,307 Speaker 2: The biggest days on the English football calendar comes up 4 00:00:15,347 --> 00:00:19,427 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. The FA Cup Final at Wembley Stadium, seven 5 00:00:19,507 --> 00:00:23,387 Speaker 2: time winners Manchester City playing in their third straight final 6 00:00:23,547 --> 00:00:27,587 Speaker 2: against Crystal Palace, playing in their third final ever. Having 7 00:00:27,667 --> 00:00:30,787 Speaker 2: never lifted the famous trophy, they came close a couple 8 00:00:30,827 --> 00:00:33,867 Speaker 2: of times. One of the most famous FA Cup finals 9 00:00:33,907 --> 00:00:37,147 Speaker 2: of all time was in nineteen to ninety when Crystal 10 00:00:37,187 --> 00:00:39,187 Speaker 2: Palace faced Manchester United. 11 00:00:39,947 --> 00:00:42,027 Speaker 3: Yes, nice his first chest to show what he can do. 12 00:00:42,547 --> 00:00:43,667 Speaker 2: He's it's. 13 00:00:47,747 --> 00:00:55,107 Speaker 1: Too Art's old position. 14 00:00:55,507 --> 00:01:12,987 Speaker 3: Belan is challenging him up. One of the great substitutions. 15 00:01:13,747 --> 00:01:16,547 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of goals for Ian Wright that day 16 00:01:16,587 --> 00:01:22,427 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety Crystal Palace three Manchester United three after 17 00:01:22,507 --> 00:01:26,147 Speaker 2: extra time. Manchester United went on to win the replay 18 00:01:26,227 --> 00:01:30,027 Speaker 2: one nil. Five days later. John Silaco was part of 19 00:01:30,027 --> 00:01:33,467 Speaker 2: that Crystal Palace sidet. He also played five times for England, 20 00:01:33,907 --> 00:01:37,027 Speaker 2: including twice here in New Zealand against the All Whites 21 00:01:37,427 --> 00:01:39,467 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety one. He joins us now, John, a 22 00:01:39,467 --> 00:01:41,827 Speaker 2: great pleasure to have you on the show. How often 23 00:01:41,867 --> 00:01:44,627 Speaker 2: does your mind drift back thirty five years to the 24 00:01:44,707 --> 00:01:46,907 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety FA Cup final. 25 00:01:48,227 --> 00:01:51,627 Speaker 4: Oh, incredible, incredible day, just as much as when I 26 00:01:51,707 --> 00:01:54,027 Speaker 4: made my David in Australian played out in New Zealand. 27 00:01:54,067 --> 00:01:58,267 Speaker 4: So look it's magical, twenty one year old going out. 28 00:01:58,827 --> 00:01:59,387 Speaker 3: You know, when you. 29 00:01:59,347 --> 00:02:02,987 Speaker 4: Grow up in England, you know the FA Cup's magical. 30 00:02:02,987 --> 00:02:06,587 Speaker 4: It's so special, it really is. It's a fairy how. 31 00:02:06,667 --> 00:02:10,147 Speaker 4: It's one of those magical things where any any anything's 32 00:02:10,187 --> 00:02:14,467 Speaker 4: possible and the minnots go up against the superstars and 33 00:02:15,267 --> 00:02:17,747 Speaker 4: you know, nineteen ninety was just so special, and then 34 00:02:17,787 --> 00:02:21,267 Speaker 4: obviously going on to that was you know, Liverpool in 35 00:02:21,267 --> 00:02:24,507 Speaker 4: the semifinal Villa Park for three was just the. 36 00:02:24,267 --> 00:02:25,627 Speaker 3: Most amazing in the FA Cup. 37 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:28,387 Speaker 4: They you know, they'd smashed the eighties, you know, I 38 00:02:28,387 --> 00:02:31,187 Speaker 4: think they'd won the league eight times, the League, the cups. 39 00:02:31,987 --> 00:02:33,667 Speaker 4: They were the team to beat them and it was 40 00:02:33,707 --> 00:02:36,507 Speaker 4: a change in the guard really from Liverpool to Man United, 41 00:02:36,507 --> 00:02:40,147 Speaker 4: Sir Alex Ferguson and you know then going on to 42 00:02:40,267 --> 00:02:42,747 Speaker 4: play for England, you know, Unified Germany at Wembley and 43 00:02:42,747 --> 00:02:45,427 Speaker 4: then obviously I made my debut in Australia and going 44 00:02:45,467 --> 00:02:48,547 Speaker 4: to play twice in New Zealand, was just Auckland and 45 00:02:48,587 --> 00:02:50,547 Speaker 4: went into it was just it was incredible to pull 46 00:02:50,587 --> 00:02:51,107 Speaker 4: on that shirt. 47 00:02:51,227 --> 00:02:52,267 Speaker 3: It's just magical. 48 00:02:52,347 --> 00:02:55,787 Speaker 4: So they're what you dream of, Jason, when you're a kid, 49 00:02:56,067 --> 00:02:58,027 Speaker 4: and you know, I speak to kids and I coach 50 00:02:58,107 --> 00:02:59,547 Speaker 4: kids and I talk to them all the time, and 51 00:03:00,187 --> 00:03:03,667 Speaker 4: it's there to dream, dare to to you know, to 52 00:03:03,787 --> 00:03:06,227 Speaker 4: work hard and you know put pictures in your head. 53 00:03:06,227 --> 00:03:08,147 Speaker 4: And I was just one of those kids that just 54 00:03:09,227 --> 00:03:11,467 Speaker 4: dared to dream and I just loved it. I spent 55 00:03:11,547 --> 00:03:14,867 Speaker 4: all my waking hours playing football, playing sport and just 56 00:03:14,947 --> 00:03:17,267 Speaker 4: daring to dream that I could one day play in 57 00:03:17,267 --> 00:03:19,027 Speaker 4: the Premier League in an FA Cup final. 58 00:03:19,267 --> 00:03:21,027 Speaker 3: Pull on the pull on an England shirt. 59 00:03:21,867 --> 00:03:26,267 Speaker 4: Wow, And yeah, it's pretty pretty pretty amazing that you 60 00:03:26,267 --> 00:03:27,347 Speaker 4: know that that came true. 61 00:03:27,387 --> 00:03:28,747 Speaker 3: And you know, I've got Sello's Park. 62 00:03:29,307 --> 00:03:31,627 Speaker 4: I've got one of the limited editions of Seller's Park 63 00:03:31,827 --> 00:03:35,027 Speaker 4: on my wall. I've got England shirt, Brazil shirt, that 64 00:03:35,227 --> 00:03:41,347 Speaker 4: my German shirt that I got off sorry Muller when 65 00:03:41,387 --> 00:03:45,187 Speaker 4: I played against Germany, the unified German side. So not 66 00:03:45,267 --> 00:03:48,107 Speaker 4: a day goes by that I don't think about how 67 00:03:48,107 --> 00:03:48,907 Speaker 4: special that was. 68 00:03:49,307 --> 00:03:52,747 Speaker 2: Amazing to what great memories. I'm getting goosebumps even hearing 69 00:03:52,747 --> 00:03:54,987 Speaker 2: you talk about it. So walking out at Wimbley, you 70 00:03:54,987 --> 00:03:56,827 Speaker 2: talk about it being a dream of every young boy 71 00:03:57,627 --> 00:03:59,827 Speaker 2: and you're so right. So when you did it walking 72 00:03:59,867 --> 00:04:02,947 Speaker 2: out at Wimbley as a twenty one year old, were 73 00:04:02,947 --> 00:04:06,747 Speaker 2: you able to be aware of the situation and as 74 00:04:06,787 --> 00:04:08,467 Speaker 2: it was happening to you order do you have to 75 00:04:08,467 --> 00:04:09,667 Speaker 2: reflect back on it later? 76 00:04:10,587 --> 00:04:12,587 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's a great question in a sense where 77 00:04:13,587 --> 00:04:16,267 Speaker 4: you know what it is that once we beat Liverpool 78 00:04:16,267 --> 00:04:18,947 Speaker 4: in that semi final and we pink, you know, it 79 00:04:18,987 --> 00:04:20,467 Speaker 4: was a pinch yourself moment? 80 00:04:20,547 --> 00:04:23,907 Speaker 3: Did that really happen? Then you start thinking about the final. 81 00:04:23,947 --> 00:04:26,227 Speaker 4: Then it starts building up and there's flags and everyone's 82 00:04:26,227 --> 00:04:28,667 Speaker 4: talking about it. You go to as there are test 83 00:04:28,707 --> 00:04:31,427 Speaker 4: goes and even the oh good luck in the final. 84 00:04:31,507 --> 00:04:33,827 Speaker 4: You know, everyone is talking at Man United, the biggest 85 00:04:33,827 --> 00:04:36,347 Speaker 4: club in the world. You know, everyone's talking about You're 86 00:04:36,347 --> 00:04:37,827 Speaker 4: playing Man United in the f. 87 00:04:37,827 --> 00:04:40,987 Speaker 3: A Cup final. It's you know it, And then you realize. 88 00:04:40,987 --> 00:04:42,947 Speaker 4: You go through the taxis and you start training and 89 00:04:42,987 --> 00:04:45,427 Speaker 4: you try not to get injured, and you get to 90 00:04:45,467 --> 00:04:47,587 Speaker 4: the day and I can just you know, you remember 91 00:04:47,627 --> 00:04:49,747 Speaker 4: and what you do is I remember the night before, 92 00:04:49,787 --> 00:04:52,707 Speaker 4: but it's like, you know you've been there and you 93 00:04:52,867 --> 00:04:55,067 Speaker 4: try and keep the lid on it, but how do 94 00:04:55,147 --> 00:04:57,067 Speaker 4: you how do you do that? And really what I 95 00:04:57,187 --> 00:04:59,427 Speaker 4: used to do is and the technique and really for 96 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:05,027 Speaker 4: for for sports players. You know, I was just talking 97 00:05:05,027 --> 00:05:07,947 Speaker 4: about we're just watching the tennis now, and you know 98 00:05:08,067 --> 00:05:10,947 Speaker 4: it's a team sport. It's not it's individuals that are 99 00:05:10,947 --> 00:05:12,827 Speaker 4: playing in the team sports. So you've just got to 100 00:05:12,867 --> 00:05:15,747 Speaker 4: look after yourself. You've got to get yourself right, and 101 00:05:15,787 --> 00:05:16,947 Speaker 4: you go through your routine. 102 00:05:17,147 --> 00:05:18,787 Speaker 3: What makes you go to sleep? You know, you get 103 00:05:18,787 --> 00:05:19,267 Speaker 3: your sleep. 104 00:05:19,707 --> 00:05:22,147 Speaker 4: You know, eat, you know you've got like Richard Shaw, 105 00:05:22,227 --> 00:05:25,667 Speaker 4: my my room partner, he had a slightly to eat. 106 00:05:25,707 --> 00:05:27,707 Speaker 4: He would like to get up early for breakfast. I 107 00:05:28,027 --> 00:05:30,347 Speaker 4: wanted to lie in, you know, he would, I would. 108 00:05:30,387 --> 00:05:31,907 Speaker 4: I would like to go to bed at half ten. 109 00:05:32,227 --> 00:05:34,307 Speaker 4: I would have to turn the telly off at two 110 00:05:34,307 --> 00:05:35,587 Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning because he used to go to 111 00:05:35,627 --> 00:05:37,907 Speaker 4: sleep with the telly on. It was like, oh my god, 112 00:05:38,027 --> 00:05:41,147 Speaker 4: you know, you had so many things, this all but 113 00:05:41,267 --> 00:05:43,307 Speaker 4: you deal with all that. You get out, you go 114 00:05:43,347 --> 00:05:44,947 Speaker 4: for a walk. And I can remember going for a 115 00:05:44,947 --> 00:05:47,507 Speaker 4: walk with Ian right and Mark Bright and the boys, 116 00:05:48,667 --> 00:05:50,867 Speaker 4: and you know you've got press and everyone, and you 117 00:05:50,867 --> 00:05:53,427 Speaker 4: know Ian Wright's just like I'm born for today. 118 00:05:53,507 --> 00:05:55,307 Speaker 3: You know, he was just so positive. 119 00:05:55,347 --> 00:05:57,827 Speaker 4: And you got the guys and you get around each other, 120 00:05:57,907 --> 00:06:01,107 Speaker 4: and that's where then the team comes in and you 121 00:06:01,147 --> 00:06:03,627 Speaker 4: get the boys and you're like, yeah, we're ready for today, 122 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:05,587 Speaker 4: and you start talking about it. And then once you 123 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:07,267 Speaker 4: go off that coach and you get up Wembley, you 124 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:09,347 Speaker 4: walk up Wembley Way and you look around and you know, 125 00:06:09,427 --> 00:06:12,667 Speaker 4: you sort of start getting starry eyed, and and then 126 00:06:12,907 --> 00:06:16,027 Speaker 4: you know, Steve Copple comes back in right heading the game. 127 00:06:16,747 --> 00:06:18,787 Speaker 3: Forget the occasion, heading the game. 128 00:06:18,907 --> 00:06:21,187 Speaker 4: These are the tactics bank once you start getting there, 129 00:06:21,267 --> 00:06:23,347 Speaker 4: choose your starts, you know what you're doing. And once 130 00:06:23,387 --> 00:06:25,227 Speaker 4: you're in that dress room, you got your fuck You've 131 00:06:25,227 --> 00:06:27,587 Speaker 4: got your focus head on. And to be honest, you know, 132 00:06:27,627 --> 00:06:29,507 Speaker 4: you come out of that tunnel and the second time 133 00:06:29,547 --> 00:06:32,467 Speaker 4: you come back up there, the stadium's full. You've got 134 00:06:32,467 --> 00:06:34,867 Speaker 4: the Queen there, you know, you know, the Union jacks 135 00:06:34,907 --> 00:06:38,027 Speaker 4: are flying and the you know, you know, the national 136 00:06:38,027 --> 00:06:40,827 Speaker 4: anthems playing, and you're looking at Sir Alex Ferguson and 137 00:06:40,827 --> 00:06:44,747 Speaker 4: Brian Robson and you're thinking, right, okay, let's focus here, 138 00:06:45,507 --> 00:06:49,347 Speaker 4: and then it's it's it's ninety minutes. You don't remember 139 00:06:49,347 --> 00:06:52,507 Speaker 4: a thing. You're just in the game, and that's what 140 00:06:52,547 --> 00:06:57,747 Speaker 4: it's about. And that's really that mentality of listen, you 141 00:06:57,787 --> 00:06:58,667 Speaker 4: can't enjoy the game. 142 00:06:58,707 --> 00:06:59,667 Speaker 3: You just got gun play it. 143 00:06:59,747 --> 00:07:03,507 Speaker 4: And unfortunately it should have been extra time and Pens 144 00:07:03,587 --> 00:07:05,267 Speaker 4: it wasn't at that time. We went to a replay 145 00:07:05,267 --> 00:07:07,347 Speaker 4: on Thursday, and there's a little bit of an anti 146 00:07:07,387 --> 00:07:09,947 Speaker 4: climax and yeah, Lee maar and whatever whatever may not 147 00:07:09,987 --> 00:07:14,787 Speaker 4: in anyway, and I think my overriding that Thursday, when 148 00:07:14,787 --> 00:07:17,227 Speaker 4: I was walking past that FA Cup as a loser, 149 00:07:17,827 --> 00:07:20,907 Speaker 4: I hated that. I didn't look at my losers medal 150 00:07:21,387 --> 00:07:24,467 Speaker 4: for about twenty years because I didn't want to see it. 151 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:28,227 Speaker 4: I hated that losers medal. But then after about twenty years, 152 00:07:28,307 --> 00:07:31,187 Speaker 4: you go, I played an FA Cup final and I've 153 00:07:31,187 --> 00:07:33,547 Speaker 4: got a losers medal which is made of solid gold, 154 00:07:33,547 --> 00:07:36,067 Speaker 4: and it's great. So look I'm here now and I'm 155 00:07:36,067 --> 00:07:38,307 Speaker 4: grateful for that losers medal, but for a long time, 156 00:07:38,427 --> 00:07:40,147 Speaker 4: I didn't really want it. 157 00:07:41,027 --> 00:07:42,747 Speaker 2: You mention Ian right there. I think it was under 158 00:07:42,787 --> 00:07:44,987 Speaker 2: an injury Cloud coming into the FA Cup final, came 159 00:07:45,027 --> 00:07:47,667 Speaker 2: off the bench, got two goals head you were hit 160 00:07:47,667 --> 00:07:51,307 Speaker 2: an extra time. How does he right? Where does he 161 00:07:51,387 --> 00:07:54,107 Speaker 2: rate among the players who played alongside Ian Right? 162 00:07:55,027 --> 00:07:58,267 Speaker 4: No, he's the greatest, He's the best. He was incredible. 163 00:07:58,267 --> 00:08:00,507 Speaker 4: I think Ian was one of those it was just 164 00:08:00,547 --> 00:08:00,987 Speaker 4: meant to be. 165 00:08:01,267 --> 00:08:01,667 Speaker 3: He was. 166 00:08:02,707 --> 00:08:05,707 Speaker 4: He was like, you know, sort of someone who almost 167 00:08:05,747 --> 00:08:10,027 Speaker 4: passed him by. He was twenty one. You know, he'd 168 00:08:10,027 --> 00:08:11,827 Speaker 4: been a little bit of trouble. He'd playing you know, 169 00:08:11,907 --> 00:08:14,267 Speaker 4: non league, and he tried and he tried. I think 170 00:08:14,307 --> 00:08:17,227 Speaker 4: he you know, Debbie, his other half was pregnant, and 171 00:08:17,507 --> 00:08:19,707 Speaker 4: you know, he'd worked on the roads. I think he's 172 00:08:19,747 --> 00:08:22,907 Speaker 4: working on a building site and he knew he wanted it, 173 00:08:22,947 --> 00:08:25,267 Speaker 4: and then he got this opportunity to come to Palace 174 00:08:25,307 --> 00:08:29,027 Speaker 4: and he just took it with every piece of his heart. 175 00:08:29,107 --> 00:08:31,347 Speaker 4: And you know, he just came and left nothing and 176 00:08:31,387 --> 00:08:35,347 Speaker 4: you talk about never not leaving anything behind us. 177 00:08:35,867 --> 00:08:36,787 Speaker 3: He just wanted it. 178 00:08:36,707 --> 00:08:38,667 Speaker 4: So much and we used to come in and you know, 179 00:08:38,987 --> 00:08:40,867 Speaker 4: it was brilliant for all of us who'd had Nigel 180 00:08:40,947 --> 00:08:44,267 Speaker 4: Mine and me, Versue Shaw, Mark Bright and Jeff Thomas 181 00:08:44,307 --> 00:08:47,147 Speaker 4: and Nigel Martin and he come in right, Nigel, you're 182 00:08:47,147 --> 00:08:47,627 Speaker 4: getting gold. 183 00:08:47,667 --> 00:08:49,947 Speaker 3: John. You crossed the balls for me. And you know 184 00:08:49,987 --> 00:08:51,507 Speaker 3: we were always working on it. 185 00:08:51,627 --> 00:08:53,827 Speaker 4: Did you see what that you know Brazilian Ronaldo did 186 00:08:53,907 --> 00:08:56,627 Speaker 4: last night? And you know we'd were talking about Barcelona 187 00:08:56,707 --> 00:08:59,987 Speaker 4: Real Madrid, and we'll were talking about you know, Zidan 188 00:09:00,467 --> 00:09:03,587 Speaker 4: and Figo and Baggio and you know, we'll be practicing 189 00:09:03,587 --> 00:09:06,587 Speaker 4: tricks and it was all about we lived and read 190 00:09:06,587 --> 00:09:08,747 Speaker 4: football and it was down to Ian. But he was 191 00:09:08,787 --> 00:09:12,787 Speaker 4: one of those players that genuinely I can remember, as 192 00:09:12,787 --> 00:09:14,227 Speaker 4: you said, he had a broken leg. He went to 193 00:09:14,227 --> 00:09:16,947 Speaker 4: a faith HeLa and he came and and at halftime 194 00:09:16,987 --> 00:09:19,027 Speaker 4: we were one nil down against Liverpool in the semifinal 195 00:09:19,027 --> 00:09:21,227 Speaker 4: in the FA Cup at Villa Park and he came 196 00:09:21,267 --> 00:09:24,507 Speaker 4: in and before Steve Copple could say anything, he came 197 00:09:24,547 --> 00:09:27,747 Speaker 4: in and he was he's so animated, he's larger than life. 198 00:09:28,547 --> 00:09:30,627 Speaker 4: And he was like, we still got this, we can 199 00:09:30,667 --> 00:09:33,267 Speaker 4: still do this, and if any of you don't want it, 200 00:09:33,627 --> 00:09:34,347 Speaker 4: don't fancy it. 201 00:09:34,387 --> 00:09:36,187 Speaker 3: I'll take your shirt. I'll play with a broken leg. 202 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:39,147 Speaker 4: And you know he was just so passionate and so 203 00:09:40,307 --> 00:09:43,307 Speaker 4: you know, so driven and we all I think we 204 00:09:43,347 --> 00:09:46,187 Speaker 4: all got something from that and that was Ian and 205 00:09:46,347 --> 00:09:49,067 Speaker 4: we played in that cup final and he hadn't trained. 206 00:09:49,347 --> 00:09:53,107 Speaker 4: He had a fractured a heline fracture in his leg, 207 00:09:53,147 --> 00:09:55,387 Speaker 4: and he came back and he came on and he 208 00:09:55,427 --> 00:10:00,427 Speaker 4: scored two goals and absolutely incredible and it's just such 209 00:10:00,427 --> 00:10:02,747 Speaker 4: a shame that we couldn't see it out and win 210 00:10:02,787 --> 00:10:04,347 Speaker 4: it on that day, because I think he deserved that. 211 00:10:04,427 --> 00:10:07,267 Speaker 4: But listen, he went on to grow your things. I 212 00:10:07,307 --> 00:10:08,947 Speaker 4: should have got to move to Arsenal as well at 213 00:10:08,987 --> 00:10:10,507 Speaker 4: the time, but they didn't let that happen. 214 00:10:10,587 --> 00:10:12,307 Speaker 3: But anyway, let's time. 215 00:10:13,107 --> 00:10:16,267 Speaker 4: But yeah, Righty went on to Arsenal and I knew 216 00:10:16,267 --> 00:10:17,747 Speaker 4: he would do that and what he went on to 217 00:10:17,787 --> 00:10:20,827 Speaker 4: achieve with Arsenal and just one of the true greats 218 00:10:20,827 --> 00:10:22,427 Speaker 4: and all time best players. 219 00:10:22,427 --> 00:10:24,907 Speaker 3: But he's one of my favorite all time people. 220 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:28,107 Speaker 2: You just mentioned something there about about you going to 221 00:10:28,107 --> 00:10:31,267 Speaker 2: the Gunners as well. I think I remember something about it. 222 00:10:31,307 --> 00:10:33,787 Speaker 2: What happened? Why didn't you get the move? Yeah? 223 00:10:33,867 --> 00:10:36,547 Speaker 4: No, George Graham came in and offered a million pounds 224 00:10:36,547 --> 00:10:38,187 Speaker 4: for me at the time, and they wanted to take 225 00:10:38,227 --> 00:10:42,347 Speaker 4: me and Palace were willing to sell any prices as 226 00:10:42,387 --> 00:10:44,587 Speaker 4: you said no, and we ended up selling Eddi mcgoldwick 227 00:10:44,627 --> 00:10:46,307 Speaker 4: for a million pound. That tidd the box at the 228 00:10:46,347 --> 00:10:48,987 Speaker 4: time for Ron Noades and I didn't find it no, 229 00:10:49,027 --> 00:10:51,267 Speaker 4: because I think Sir Alex came in at Man United, 230 00:10:52,267 --> 00:10:59,627 Speaker 4: Graham Sooners at Liverpool and Graham yeah at George Graham 231 00:10:59,627 --> 00:11:02,027 Speaker 4: at Arsenal sorry came in for me at the time, 232 00:11:02,107 --> 00:11:04,427 Speaker 4: but they weren't selling, so I didn't get my move. 233 00:11:04,507 --> 00:11:09,107 Speaker 4: But unfortunately, not long after that, that's Australasia Tour where 234 00:11:09,147 --> 00:11:11,347 Speaker 4: we I think we played Australian New Zealand twice in 235 00:11:11,347 --> 00:11:13,827 Speaker 4: the Malaysia. I came back, you know, sort of. I 236 00:11:13,987 --> 00:11:16,067 Speaker 4: was sort of the best thing since light Spread, which 237 00:11:16,107 --> 00:11:19,867 Speaker 4: was incredible. Then unfortunately the following season started and I 238 00:11:19,907 --> 00:11:24,907 Speaker 4: got injured against Leeds and did my cruise h as, 239 00:11:25,187 --> 00:11:27,107 Speaker 4: I don't know what would you say, Yeah, it's a 240 00:11:27,107 --> 00:11:31,787 Speaker 4: cruel game that was That was yeah, that was pretty 241 00:11:31,867 --> 00:11:34,347 Speaker 4: pretty bad. So I got Yeah, I got back in 242 00:11:34,387 --> 00:11:36,307 Speaker 4: England side and then it went again, so it was 243 00:11:36,387 --> 00:11:38,667 Speaker 4: kind of bit. Yeah, it was a rubbish time, but 244 00:11:39,787 --> 00:11:41,947 Speaker 4: you know, so I got through thirty six but twenty one. 245 00:11:41,987 --> 00:11:43,547 Speaker 4: When you're playing in the FA carp, when you're playing 246 00:11:43,547 --> 00:11:47,347 Speaker 4: against the World champions Germany, at Wembley. You think it's 247 00:11:47,347 --> 00:11:50,227 Speaker 4: going to happen to you every season and that's where 248 00:11:50,227 --> 00:11:52,987 Speaker 4: it's going to live. And unfortunately, sometimes you know, life, 249 00:11:53,027 --> 00:11:55,907 Speaker 4: life does that to you, doesn't quite give you what 250 00:11:56,067 --> 00:11:59,307 Speaker 4: you're hoping for. But listen, I think you you know, 251 00:11:59,387 --> 00:12:02,747 Speaker 4: you learn to accept that you get certain set of 252 00:12:02,787 --> 00:12:05,347 Speaker 4: cards and you get certain things. And I'm one of 253 00:12:05,347 --> 00:12:07,467 Speaker 4: those people that goes, oh, do you know what did 254 00:12:07,507 --> 00:12:08,587 Speaker 4: you get England caps? Yeah? 255 00:12:08,907 --> 00:12:10,987 Speaker 3: And he got five and he go you got five, 256 00:12:11,227 --> 00:12:13,347 Speaker 3: you got one, you got five? Wow. 257 00:12:13,547 --> 00:12:17,427 Speaker 4: You know, it's those conversations I find myself going, wow, 258 00:12:17,467 --> 00:12:18,587 Speaker 4: I got five England caps. 259 00:12:18,587 --> 00:12:20,547 Speaker 3: You know, I played in the FA Cup. 260 00:12:20,307 --> 00:12:22,667 Speaker 4: Final and you know the year before we'd won the 261 00:12:22,747 --> 00:12:26,907 Speaker 4: Zenith we beat Everton at Wembley, scored in that. So 262 00:12:27,707 --> 00:12:30,467 Speaker 4: you know, you learn in life and that's one of 263 00:12:30,467 --> 00:12:33,787 Speaker 4: the things I've learned to be grateful and you know, 264 00:12:33,827 --> 00:12:36,507 Speaker 4: I really appreciate everything I went through and what I've 265 00:12:36,507 --> 00:12:38,787 Speaker 4: got and now palliser in the Cup final again. 266 00:12:38,867 --> 00:12:40,467 Speaker 3: I was played in nineteen ninety. 267 00:12:40,907 --> 00:12:42,347 Speaker 4: You know, we got to the Semis with the Garra 268 00:12:42,427 --> 00:12:45,827 Speaker 4: South Coates side in ninety five and then I was 269 00:12:45,827 --> 00:12:48,227 Speaker 4: first team coach in the fifteen sixteen season when we 270 00:12:48,307 --> 00:12:52,427 Speaker 4: lost to Mana Nited two which again managed. Yeah, and 271 00:12:52,467 --> 00:12:55,347 Speaker 4: then I became, you know, sort of a match day ambassadorm, 272 00:12:55,347 --> 00:12:57,867 Speaker 4: a club ambassador for Palace. We went to twenty two 273 00:12:57,947 --> 00:13:00,787 Speaker 4: with be there semi final against Chelsea. 274 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:02,067 Speaker 3: They were just too good for us. 275 00:13:02,347 --> 00:13:06,347 Speaker 4: We lost two nol Wembley and we're back there again, 276 00:13:06,947 --> 00:13:11,307 Speaker 4: you know, twenty twenty five we're in the final man City. Well, 277 00:13:11,387 --> 00:13:13,267 Speaker 4: I think our names on it, Jason and I, I 278 00:13:13,347 --> 00:13:17,387 Speaker 4: really do. I'm really humped for Saturday and I think 279 00:13:17,387 --> 00:13:19,107 Speaker 4: we're going to do it. I think third time lucky, 280 00:13:19,307 --> 00:13:23,227 Speaker 4: it's going to happen. You know, Oliver Glasner, you know, 281 00:13:23,307 --> 00:13:26,947 Speaker 4: we trust and it's been incredible. Mattessa as a sar, 282 00:13:27,267 --> 00:13:30,187 Speaker 4: you know, the bank Laquir Richards and Gay Henderson's going 283 00:13:30,267 --> 00:13:31,907 Speaker 4: to be Mane of the match and I think as 284 00:13:31,987 --> 00:13:36,427 Speaker 4: a Matteta and so I think three to one Palace brilliant. 285 00:13:36,787 --> 00:13:39,227 Speaker 2: Just just before you go, obviously, Pallas have been a 286 00:13:39,267 --> 00:13:41,907 Speaker 2: solid med table Premier League side since you know, you 287 00:13:42,027 --> 00:13:45,267 Speaker 2: won promotion back in twenty twelve thirteen, always sort of 288 00:13:45,307 --> 00:13:48,867 Speaker 2: tenths to fourteenth or there are thereabouts. Winning a trophy, 289 00:13:49,987 --> 00:13:51,667 Speaker 2: You're probably not going to win the Premier League, but 290 00:13:51,747 --> 00:13:53,667 Speaker 2: you can win the FA Cup. How much would it 291 00:13:53,747 --> 00:13:56,507 Speaker 2: mean to the fans of Super Palace And there are 292 00:13:56,507 --> 00:13:57,867 Speaker 2: a lot back here in New Zealand as well. I 293 00:13:57,867 --> 00:14:00,067 Speaker 2: can tell you John to lift that trophy at Wimbley. 294 00:14:01,027 --> 00:14:01,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. 295 00:14:01,907 --> 00:14:04,107 Speaker 4: I think everyone apart from the Man City fans are 296 00:14:04,147 --> 00:14:05,307 Speaker 4: rooting for Palace, you know. 297 00:14:05,227 --> 00:14:08,307 Speaker 3: The under and you know it would mean everything. It's 298 00:14:08,347 --> 00:14:09,027 Speaker 3: so special. 299 00:14:10,347 --> 00:14:13,347 Speaker 4: To actually get across the line and win the FA 300 00:14:13,347 --> 00:14:17,107 Speaker 4: Cup would be so brilliant for the club and to 301 00:14:17,147 --> 00:14:19,707 Speaker 4: get into Europe. And to be honest, I think the 302 00:14:19,707 --> 00:14:22,307 Speaker 4: bigger picture is obviously Oliver Glazen has been talented as 303 00:14:22,347 --> 00:14:24,187 Speaker 4: you know, going to labor coups and everyone wants to 304 00:14:24,227 --> 00:14:28,947 Speaker 4: him and Esse and Matteta and obviously gay Laqua Waton. 305 00:14:29,587 --> 00:14:31,147 Speaker 3: So you know it would. 306 00:14:30,867 --> 00:14:33,427 Speaker 4: Mean everything and in a sense where it might just 307 00:14:33,467 --> 00:14:35,547 Speaker 4: be the catalyst we need to push us on to 308 00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:38,147 Speaker 4: the next level of you know, we keep these players, 309 00:14:38,187 --> 00:14:40,067 Speaker 4: we bring in some extra players, we go into the 310 00:14:40,107 --> 00:14:42,707 Speaker 4: Europa League and finally play in Europe. 311 00:14:43,227 --> 00:14:44,907 Speaker 3: But you know it would be so special. 312 00:14:44,907 --> 00:14:47,707 Speaker 4: I mean, the Palace fans have just been magnificent since 313 00:14:47,747 --> 00:14:50,347 Speaker 4: we nearly went out of existence. I think back in 314 00:14:51,187 --> 00:14:55,467 Speaker 4: twenty and thirteen and then since then, the Palace fans 315 00:14:55,467 --> 00:14:56,227 Speaker 4: have just embraced it. 316 00:14:56,267 --> 00:14:59,347 Speaker 3: They're the best, you know, they're fantastic and they deserve that. 317 00:14:59,427 --> 00:15:02,267 Speaker 4: It would be wonderful and you know, I can't deliver 318 00:15:02,347 --> 00:15:04,347 Speaker 4: that as a player, but I feel I'm just part 319 00:15:04,387 --> 00:15:06,907 Speaker 4: of it, as part of the Palace family. It would 320 00:15:06,947 --> 00:15:10,627 Speaker 4: be absolutely incredible and got fingers crossed. I mean, we 321 00:15:10,667 --> 00:15:12,627 Speaker 4: can't take anything for granted, but I just think our 322 00:15:12,707 --> 00:15:13,267 Speaker 4: name's on it. 323 00:15:13,787 --> 00:15:14,187 Speaker 3: Brilliant. 324 00:15:14,267 --> 00:15:15,667 Speaker 2: I actually did want to ask you about coming to 325 00:15:15,707 --> 00:15:18,507 Speaker 2: New Zealand because this is obviously a show going across 326 00:15:18,827 --> 00:15:22,267 Speaker 2: New Zealand. I remember being at Athletic Park, a rugby 327 00:15:22,307 --> 00:15:25,387 Speaker 2: ground in Wellington to watch England play against New Zealand. 328 00:15:25,467 --> 00:15:29,147 Speaker 2: I was there that day watching watching England. You know, 329 00:15:29,427 --> 00:15:32,347 Speaker 2: as players yourself, we've only ever seen on television playing 330 00:15:32,387 --> 00:15:35,427 Speaker 2: against our national side and it was it was such 331 00:15:35,427 --> 00:15:37,187 Speaker 2: a buzz for all of us back then. What was 332 00:15:37,227 --> 00:15:39,307 Speaker 2: it like for you, I mean your dayboot against Australia, 333 00:15:39,387 --> 00:15:41,987 Speaker 2: A couple of games against New Zealand, what was that like? 334 00:15:41,987 --> 00:15:43,107 Speaker 2: Do you remember much about it? 335 00:15:43,787 --> 00:15:45,307 Speaker 3: Yeah? And do you know it was incredible? 336 00:15:45,347 --> 00:15:47,667 Speaker 4: I was just you know, I was twenty two and 337 00:15:47,907 --> 00:15:49,907 Speaker 4: you know it's everything I'd ever dreamed of is been 338 00:15:49,947 --> 00:15:52,107 Speaker 4: part of the England squad and got this opportunity to 339 00:15:52,147 --> 00:15:55,347 Speaker 4: fly out and play in this Australasia tour and you 340 00:15:55,347 --> 00:15:57,707 Speaker 4: know we're gratty short, you know, and I think you know, 341 00:15:57,747 --> 00:16:01,947 Speaker 4: Gary Lineker flying out, Stuart pierced As Walker and so 342 00:16:02,067 --> 00:16:06,347 Speaker 4: many great players and I just loved it every second 343 00:16:06,467 --> 00:16:09,707 Speaker 4: kind of it. Going to obviously Australian New Zealand, it 344 00:16:09,747 --> 00:16:12,267 Speaker 4: was so fantastic and wonderful people. We had all the 345 00:16:12,307 --> 00:16:14,707 Speaker 4: press there traveling with us, and you know it was 346 00:16:14,747 --> 00:16:17,187 Speaker 4: just big and it was just right where you wanted 347 00:16:17,187 --> 00:16:20,307 Speaker 4: to be and know all your dreams come in, you know, 348 00:16:20,387 --> 00:16:24,787 Speaker 4: to fruition and yeah, absolutely magical. It was the best 349 00:16:25,147 --> 00:16:28,267 Speaker 4: sort of three weeks that I'd experienced in a football 350 00:16:28,307 --> 00:16:31,587 Speaker 4: in sense of you know, just everything that went with it. 351 00:16:31,627 --> 00:16:34,227 Speaker 3: You know, you were big time news. It was off season. 352 00:16:34,467 --> 00:16:36,867 Speaker 4: It was just all about you in the newspapers every day, 353 00:16:36,907 --> 00:16:39,907 Speaker 4: on the TV doing interviews. I was sharing a ruin 354 00:16:39,907 --> 00:16:43,947 Speaker 4: with Mark Waters ex Rangers, you know, sort of Villa Liverpool. 355 00:16:44,147 --> 00:16:46,867 Speaker 4: What a brilliant player he was, and you know it 356 00:16:46,947 --> 00:16:51,347 Speaker 4: was just so special absolutely incredible and obviously yeah it's 357 00:16:51,907 --> 00:16:56,787 Speaker 4: you know, a real big, big highlight and something that. Yeah, 358 00:16:56,947 --> 00:16:58,387 Speaker 4: I just it was absolutely magical. 359 00:16:58,987 --> 00:17:00,987 Speaker 2: John, It's been such a delight cheating. Do you thank 360 00:17:00,987 --> 00:17:03,827 Speaker 2: you for having a wander down memory lane? Well as 361 00:17:03,947 --> 00:17:06,347 Speaker 2: you did, right, I think, apart from City fans, every 362 00:17:07,707 --> 00:17:10,187 Speaker 2: is super Eagles this weekend all the best mate up. 363 00:17:10,227 --> 00:17:12,347 Speaker 2: It's a tremendous weekend for you and for the Palace family. 364 00:17:13,147 --> 00:17:13,547 Speaker 3: Brilliant. 365 00:17:13,547 --> 00:17:16,907 Speaker 2: Thanks Jason Pleasure, thanks for joining us, John, John Silaco there, 366 00:17:17,587 --> 00:17:21,587 Speaker 2: former Crystal Palace attacker England player Grant says, don't think 367 00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:24,387 Speaker 2: John Solarco is going to have great memories about playing here. 368 00:17:24,747 --> 00:17:26,947 Speaker 2: I was at Athletic Park that day and it had 369 00:17:27,067 --> 00:17:29,867 Speaker 2: rained all week and was the coldest athletic park I'd 370 00:17:29,907 --> 00:17:32,707 Speaker 2: ever been to. Man, that's a crowded field, a cold 371 00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:35,467 Speaker 2: athletic park. They couldn't mow the grass. It was very 372 00:17:35,467 --> 00:17:37,547 Speaker 2: long by the time they played. As I said, I 373 00:17:37,587 --> 00:17:39,587 Speaker 2: was at that game as well. England won two nil. 374 00:17:40,747 --> 00:17:42,987 Speaker 2: But you know, some of the players who came across, 375 00:17:43,467 --> 00:17:45,947 Speaker 2: we'd only seen them on Big League Soccer back then. 376 00:17:45,987 --> 00:17:48,907 Speaker 2: You know, this is pre you know, pre Sky Day's, 377 00:17:48,947 --> 00:17:52,627 Speaker 2: pre Premier League days and you look at the New 378 00:17:52,707 --> 00:17:55,587 Speaker 2: Zealand side that played and a couple of famous names there. 379 00:17:55,627 --> 00:17:59,347 Speaker 2: Fred de Jong was in that side, Declan Edge, Michael mcgowry, 380 00:17:59,387 --> 00:18:02,587 Speaker 2: whose son James has gone on to be a professional footballer. 381 00:18:02,867 --> 00:18:06,627 Speaker 2: Malcolm Dumford camp captain the side, Roger Gray I want 382 00:18:06,627 --> 00:18:10,227 Speaker 2: to play. He was Michael Redenton, father of Matt Redenton. 383 00:18:10,307 --> 00:18:14,347 Speaker 2: Another father son Combo there So two nil it was 384 00:18:14,387 --> 00:18:17,707 Speaker 2: at at Athletic Park and one nil at Mount Smart. 385 00:18:18,067 --> 00:18:20,667 Speaker 2: Gary Lineker was in that England team as well. Terrific. 386 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:24,467 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 387 00:18:24,547 --> 00:18:27,827 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 388 00:18:27,867 --> 00:18:29,507 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio