1 00:00:19,059 --> 00:00:22,178 Speaker 1: Kyota at Chelsea Daniels here, host of the Front Page. 2 00:00:22,379 --> 00:00:25,299 Speaker 1: We're taking away breakover summer, but to help fill the gap, 3 00:00:25,579 --> 00:00:28,699 Speaker 1: we're re issuing some of our most significant episodes of 4 00:00:28,739 --> 00:00:32,019 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five on behalf of the Front Page team. 5 00:00:32,138 --> 00:00:34,619 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and we look forward to being back 6 00:00:34,659 --> 00:00:37,539 Speaker 1: with you on January twelfth, twenty twenty six. 7 00:00:41,899 --> 00:00:42,259 Speaker 2: Kiota. 8 00:00:42,339 --> 00:00:45,498 Speaker 1: I'm Chelsea Daniels, and this is a special on location 9 00:00:45,778 --> 00:00:49,699 Speaker 1: episode of the Front Page, a daily podcast presented by 10 00:00:49,739 --> 00:00:56,219 Speaker 1: The New Zealand Herald. We're in the small Waikato town 11 00:00:56,379 --> 00:00:59,219 Speaker 1: of pure Pel sitting on a park bench across the 12 00:00:59,339 --> 00:01:03,579 Speaker 1: road from PGG Rightson. Now, other than the police tape 13 00:01:03,619 --> 00:01:06,899 Speaker 1: across the entrance, you wouldn't know that. It's one of 14 00:01:06,899 --> 00:01:10,459 Speaker 1: the scenes police are focusing on in their investigation into 15 00:01:10,658 --> 00:01:13,178 Speaker 1: Tom Phillips, who at. 16 00:01:13,098 --> 00:01:15,578 Speaker 2: About two thirty am on Monday. 17 00:01:16,098 --> 00:01:19,579 Speaker 1: Police believe it tried to break into this store. Now, 18 00:01:19,699 --> 00:01:23,059 Speaker 1: what happened on this fateful morning and how did we 19 00:01:23,179 --> 00:01:28,419 Speaker 1: get here? Tom and his three kids, Jada, Maverick and 20 00:01:28,619 --> 00:01:32,738 Speaker 1: Ember first went missing in September twenty twenty one, which 21 00:01:32,779 --> 00:01:36,738 Speaker 1: sparked a major search near Mauta Kopper, but three weeks later, 22 00:01:36,779 --> 00:01:39,298 Speaker 1: they rocked up at the family's farm and he was 23 00:01:39,419 --> 00:01:41,779 Speaker 1: charged with wasting police resources. 24 00:01:42,378 --> 00:01:43,139 Speaker 2: He didn't show up. 25 00:01:43,059 --> 00:01:46,019 Speaker 1: To court for those charges. Why because he had taken 26 00:01:46,059 --> 00:01:49,898 Speaker 1: the kids again. This was in December twenty twenty one. 27 00:01:50,699 --> 00:01:53,579 Speaker 1: In September twenty twenty three, we learned a warrant was 28 00:01:53,619 --> 00:01:56,739 Speaker 1: out for his arrest police alleging he robbed a bank 29 00:01:56,819 --> 00:01:57,739 Speaker 1: in Tekowiti. 30 00:01:58,099 --> 00:01:59,779 Speaker 2: In May twenty twenty. 31 00:01:59,499 --> 00:02:03,659 Speaker 1: Three, he was charged with aggravated robbery, aggravated wounding and 32 00:02:03,779 --> 00:02:07,699 Speaker 1: unlawfully possessing a firearm over the armed heist of A 33 00:02:07,819 --> 00:02:13,019 Speaker 1: and Z Tekowiti on May sixteen. Two people, both armed, entered, 34 00:02:13,179 --> 00:02:17,859 Speaker 1: demanded cash, and fled on a farm style motorbike. In August, 35 00:02:18,019 --> 00:02:21,419 Speaker 1: there was a spate of sear around Waikato. Phillips was 36 00:02:21,459 --> 00:02:25,859 Speaker 1: seen in two different Bunnings warehouse stores, disguising himself with 37 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:29,578 Speaker 1: glasses and a surgical mask. He used cash to buy 38 00:02:29,659 --> 00:02:32,339 Speaker 1: items which suggested he may have set up a campsite, 39 00:02:32,379 --> 00:02:37,619 Speaker 1: including headlamps, batteries, seedlings, buckets, and gum boots. In September 40 00:02:37,659 --> 00:02:41,299 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, police revealed they'd received fourteen reports of 41 00:02:41,379 --> 00:02:42,578 Speaker 1: sightings of Phillips. 42 00:02:42,978 --> 00:02:44,418 Speaker 2: None turned out to be positive. 43 00:02:44,659 --> 00:02:47,819 Speaker 1: November that year, Phillips and one of his children allegedly 44 00:02:47,858 --> 00:02:51,459 Speaker 1: stole a quad bike from a rural Waikato property and 45 00:02:51,499 --> 00:02:54,499 Speaker 1: then broke into a shop. Security footage of the pair 46 00:02:54,619 --> 00:02:58,099 Speaker 1: shows them smashing the front glass and fleeing north after 47 00:02:58,099 --> 00:03:00,258 Speaker 1: the alarm was set off at about two am. Tom 48 00:03:00,299 --> 00:03:02,859 Speaker 1: and the kids was spotted by peg hunters in the 49 00:03:02,858 --> 00:03:06,019 Speaker 1: Markopa area at the beginning of October, the first time 50 00:03:06,019 --> 00:03:09,499 Speaker 1: they've been seen all together since they went missing in 51 00:03:09,578 --> 00:03:13,579 Speaker 1: December twenty twenty one. They were wearing camo gear hiking 52 00:03:13,619 --> 00:03:18,539 Speaker 1: through farmland carrying backpacks. Police and air support, including the 53 00:03:18,619 --> 00:03:22,179 Speaker 1: air fr helicopter, were sent to the area but found nothing. 54 00:03:22,698 --> 00:03:25,099 Speaker 2: The kid's mother, though, cat she was happy to have 55 00:03:25,219 --> 00:03:28,698 Speaker 2: proof they were all alive. So that brings us up 56 00:03:28,739 --> 00:03:29,779 Speaker 2: to last month. 57 00:03:29,899 --> 00:03:33,018 Speaker 1: August twenty twenty five, Phillips and one of his children 58 00:03:33,059 --> 00:03:37,338 Speaker 1: were caught on CCTV breaking into a pulpule suparette, which 59 00:03:37,379 --> 00:03:41,379 Speaker 1: he also targeted in November twenty twenty three. He used 60 00:03:41,379 --> 00:03:44,299 Speaker 1: a power tool suspected to be an angle grinder to 61 00:03:44,379 --> 00:03:47,779 Speaker 1: break into the barred back door and stole groceries before 62 00:03:47,819 --> 00:03:51,458 Speaker 1: speeding off on a quad bike that takes us up 63 00:03:51,739 --> 00:03:54,659 Speaker 1: until now. Police were called by a member of the 64 00:03:54,699 --> 00:03:57,458 Speaker 1: public who thought they were witnessing a burglary about two 65 00:03:57,459 --> 00:04:01,539 Speaker 1: thirty am Monday at a rural farm supply store. PGG 66 00:04:01,739 --> 00:04:05,459 Speaker 1: writes in in pul Puel. Behind us, two people in 67 00:04:05,619 --> 00:04:09,139 Speaker 1: farm clothing and wearing headlamps left the scene on a 68 00:04:09,259 --> 00:04:09,899 Speaker 1: quad bike. 69 00:04:10,459 --> 00:04:12,139 Speaker 2: At about three twenty am. 70 00:04:12,299 --> 00:04:16,259 Speaker 1: Police laid road spikes and the bike stops at around 71 00:04:16,259 --> 00:04:19,579 Speaker 1: the intersection of Waypoona and Tower Roads, which. 72 00:04:19,459 --> 00:04:20,979 Speaker 2: Leads to Mattacoppa. 73 00:04:21,579 --> 00:04:24,259 Speaker 1: The first attending officer has come across the bike and 74 00:04:24,339 --> 00:04:28,139 Speaker 1: was confronted by gunfire at close range. It's understood he 75 00:04:28,219 --> 00:04:31,498 Speaker 1: was shot in the head with a high powered rifle. 76 00:04:31,699 --> 00:04:34,498 Speaker 1: He fell to the ground, took cover, and he was 77 00:04:34,659 --> 00:04:38,499 Speaker 1: later airlifted to Waikato Hospital. He received critical injuries and 78 00:04:38,619 --> 00:04:42,939 Speaker 1: will require multiple surgeries. Soon after, a second patrol unit 79 00:04:43,019 --> 00:04:44,499 Speaker 1: arrived and shot Phillips. 80 00:04:44,979 --> 00:04:46,099 Speaker 2: He died at the scene. 81 00:04:46,859 --> 00:04:50,059 Speaker 1: Multiple firearms were found on and around the quad bike. 82 00:04:50,139 --> 00:04:53,499 Speaker 1: A number of items stolen from the store were also found. 83 00:04:56,739 --> 00:04:59,219 Speaker 1: The latest update as of about ten to six on 84 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:02,859 Speaker 1: Monday evening was that the two remaining children were found 85 00:05:02,979 --> 00:05:05,659 Speaker 1: by police. They were found at about four point thirty 86 00:05:05,659 --> 00:05:09,419 Speaker 1: pm in Bush, roughly two kilometers from the location where 87 00:05:09,459 --> 00:05:14,779 Speaker 1: their father, Tom Phillips died. Acting Deputy Commissioner Jill Rodgers said, 88 00:05:14,979 --> 00:05:18,459 Speaker 1: to know the children are safe and now receiving care 89 00:05:18,499 --> 00:05:22,099 Speaker 1: afternoon nearly four years is an absolute relief. 90 00:05:22,619 --> 00:05:22,979 Speaker 2: She said. 91 00:05:22,979 --> 00:05:25,539 Speaker 1: While they are safe, this is the start of a 92 00:05:25,699 --> 00:05:30,379 Speaker 1: long journey of recovery and their welfare remains a top priority. 93 00:05:30,579 --> 00:05:33,179 Speaker 1: For that reason, they will not go into details about 94 00:05:33,219 --> 00:05:36,339 Speaker 1: where they are now and their mental state. We spoke 95 00:05:36,379 --> 00:05:40,779 Speaker 1: to Waitomo District Mayor John robertson mid afternoon in Tekowiti 96 00:05:41,179 --> 00:05:49,819 Speaker 1: before the latest development. So John, tell me a little 97 00:05:49,819 --> 00:05:53,739 Speaker 1: bit about the area that we're looking at here. 98 00:05:54,059 --> 00:06:00,139 Speaker 3: So the area is really rugged, sort of classic King 99 00:06:00,259 --> 00:06:06,739 Speaker 3: Country hills, steep hills. This is out Maracoppa wires out 100 00:06:06,779 --> 00:06:11,059 Speaker 3: by the coast, you know, rugged West coast New Zealand, 101 00:06:12,259 --> 00:06:16,499 Speaker 3: vast areas of native forest. There's a lot of dock 102 00:06:16,859 --> 00:06:20,139 Speaker 3: conservation land out there. So I think of the Waitomo 103 00:06:20,259 --> 00:06:23,979 Speaker 3: district there's something like twenty percent is in dock estate. 104 00:06:25,979 --> 00:06:30,739 Speaker 3: So and sparsely populated, you know, so metal roads from 105 00:06:30,859 --> 00:06:34,979 Speaker 3: council roads going down and you know, often just a 106 00:06:34,979 --> 00:06:39,139 Speaker 3: few farmers are just serving a few farms in the area, and. 107 00:06:39,139 --> 00:06:41,939 Speaker 1: So the population is one of the smallest council areas, 108 00:06:41,939 --> 00:06:44,859 Speaker 1: but you mentioned before one of the district is actually 109 00:06:44,859 --> 00:06:46,219 Speaker 1: one of the largest in the country. 110 00:06:47,139 --> 00:06:49,299 Speaker 3: It's large for the North Island. It's three and a 111 00:06:49,299 --> 00:06:56,099 Speaker 3: half thousand square kilometers, which you is about the size 112 00:06:56,139 --> 00:07:01,099 Speaker 3: of Hamilton City, Waipa District Council and Otronga Council. So 113 00:07:01,219 --> 00:07:04,419 Speaker 3: it is the Waitomo as part of the we're in 114 00:07:04,419 --> 00:07:09,659 Speaker 3: the center of the king Country is a big, vast area. 115 00:07:09,739 --> 00:07:13,299 Speaker 1: Years and do you know Tom and Tom's family, No, 116 00:07:13,499 --> 00:07:13,859 Speaker 1: I don't. 117 00:07:14,379 --> 00:07:19,459 Speaker 3: I've not known Tom. The family is a family that's 118 00:07:19,499 --> 00:07:22,619 Speaker 3: been in that area for a long time, good farming people, 119 00:07:23,219 --> 00:07:28,539 Speaker 3: and while I made contact early on with them, they've 120 00:07:29,539 --> 00:07:33,419 Speaker 3: wanted their privacy respected too. So the local community is 121 00:07:34,059 --> 00:07:38,979 Speaker 3: their community, and the mayor has kept away through that time. 122 00:07:39,339 --> 00:07:43,459 Speaker 1: In terms of how long this ordeal has taken, nearly 123 00:07:43,539 --> 00:07:46,259 Speaker 1: four years, or exactly four years if you count the 124 00:07:46,259 --> 00:07:49,739 Speaker 1: first time him and the kids went missing. It's an 125 00:07:49,779 --> 00:07:53,539 Speaker 1: incredible time and an incredible amount of time for the 126 00:07:53,619 --> 00:07:58,539 Speaker 1: whole country and even internationally people looking at the district 127 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:02,299 Speaker 1: and that's probably something that you're not used to out here, 128 00:08:02,739 --> 00:08:03,579 Speaker 1: what's it been like. 129 00:08:05,699 --> 00:08:10,539 Speaker 3: Look, the focus has come on periodically. So when obviously 130 00:08:10,619 --> 00:08:16,299 Speaker 3: when when Tom disappeared, the second time there was a 131 00:08:16,419 --> 00:08:18,699 Speaker 3: and you know, and the first time I guess there 132 00:08:18,739 --> 00:08:22,179 Speaker 3: was a very big presence of police for a week 133 00:08:22,299 --> 00:08:27,619 Speaker 3: or so. Since then, there's been these alleged sightings and 134 00:08:27,819 --> 00:08:33,019 Speaker 3: alleged robberies and so, you know, every six months or so, 135 00:08:33,739 --> 00:08:36,539 Speaker 3: and so the police at times have come in in 136 00:08:37,139 --> 00:08:41,819 Speaker 3: a number of cars, but not stayed for long. So 137 00:08:43,379 --> 00:08:47,859 Speaker 3: it had you know that the attention has been on Tom, 138 00:08:47,899 --> 00:08:50,259 Speaker 3: but it's been every six months or so when there's 139 00:08:50,259 --> 00:08:51,179 Speaker 3: an alleged sighting. 140 00:08:51,218 --> 00:08:53,458 Speaker 2: More has it been the talk of the town. 141 00:08:53,659 --> 00:08:58,659 Speaker 3: Over the almost four years. It's not something that we 142 00:08:59,019 --> 00:09:02,498 Speaker 3: wake up to every day and think, oh, where's Tom. 143 00:09:02,699 --> 00:09:06,378 Speaker 3: It is something that we periodically think about, the children especially, 144 00:09:07,059 --> 00:09:10,819 Speaker 3: And then when there's been a an incident or a 145 00:09:10,858 --> 00:09:15,899 Speaker 3: sighting or an alleged robbery, the community has chatted a 146 00:09:15,899 --> 00:09:20,379 Speaker 3: bit and wondered was that Tom or not? And the 147 00:09:20,419 --> 00:09:25,299 Speaker 3: police have had clearly had their evidence and have known 148 00:09:25,379 --> 00:09:26,898 Speaker 3: more than the community. 149 00:09:26,899 --> 00:09:31,819 Speaker 1: Has in terms of how this has ended. Obviously one 150 00:09:31,858 --> 00:09:34,738 Speaker 1: of the more tragic circumstances that it could have ended 151 00:09:34,819 --> 00:09:36,179 Speaker 1: it could have ended in a. 152 00:09:36,179 --> 00:09:37,339 Speaker 2: Multitude of ways. 153 00:09:37,779 --> 00:09:40,859 Speaker 1: How do you think do you think that police or 154 00:09:42,059 --> 00:09:44,779 Speaker 1: everyone has gone about this the right way? Do you 155 00:09:44,819 --> 00:09:49,299 Speaker 1: have any ideas on how to perhaps should we have 156 00:09:49,299 --> 00:09:49,819 Speaker 1: done better? 157 00:09:50,419 --> 00:09:57,379 Speaker 3: Yes, we should have done better, but that's not a 158 00:09:57,419 --> 00:10:04,659 Speaker 3: blame on the police. I you know, about a year ago, 159 00:10:06,019 --> 00:10:08,299 Speaker 3: you know, I guess I started chatting to people about 160 00:10:08,299 --> 00:10:11,739 Speaker 3: whether there's a way to encourage Tom to come out 161 00:10:11,779 --> 00:10:16,859 Speaker 3: with a negotiated type agreement because we all know that 162 00:10:16,939 --> 00:10:26,458 Speaker 3: there's a custody issue behind this as well, and that 163 00:10:26,059 --> 00:10:33,098 Speaker 3: that those situations are really complex to get through. But yeah, 164 00:10:33,179 --> 00:10:36,059 Speaker 3: I did think a year ago, in fact, I called 165 00:10:36,098 --> 00:10:42,858 Speaker 3: the Commissioner for Children in Wellington and said, I wonder 166 00:10:42,939 --> 00:10:46,218 Speaker 3: whether there is a way where someone from the outside 167 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:54,739 Speaker 3: with manna could come in and quietly see if an agree, 168 00:10:55,738 --> 00:10:58,498 Speaker 3: if there was a way through it, and it's really difficult. 169 00:10:58,578 --> 00:11:01,699 Speaker 3: I acknowledged that. So the police, well, obviously the police 170 00:11:01,738 --> 00:11:05,219 Speaker 3: have charges against Tom, but those sorts of things could 171 00:11:05,259 --> 00:11:07,459 Speaker 3: be negotiated by the police, and I think a few 172 00:11:07,458 --> 00:11:10,379 Speaker 3: months ago the police said that they would be prepared 173 00:11:10,419 --> 00:11:15,539 Speaker 3: to negotiate the custody of the children sits with the 174 00:11:15,539 --> 00:11:21,019 Speaker 3: family Court and there's no easy way to have an 175 00:11:21,059 --> 00:11:24,379 Speaker 3: agreement with a family court, and no easy way to 176 00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:27,339 Speaker 3: get agreement anyway, but to get an agreement with the 177 00:11:27,338 --> 00:11:32,419 Speaker 3: family court in a situation like this. But I think 178 00:11:33,059 --> 00:11:38,499 Speaker 3: we do need to reflect on this and see whether 179 00:11:41,978 --> 00:11:46,099 Speaker 3: there is and it may require legislation to amend some 180 00:11:46,659 --> 00:11:49,779 Speaker 3: act around this, whether it's even the powers of the 181 00:11:49,819 --> 00:11:56,939 Speaker 3: commissioner for the children, Whether there's a way of having 182 00:11:56,978 --> 00:12:00,299 Speaker 3: someone pull together the various parties, and some of them 183 00:12:00,299 --> 00:12:04,659 Speaker 3: are government departments, and sit around a table and say, well, actually, 184 00:12:05,299 --> 00:12:12,218 Speaker 3: this solution could possibly be negotiated through quietly through contacts. 185 00:12:12,299 --> 00:12:16,458 Speaker 3: I don't know hard I know, but much better than 186 00:12:17,578 --> 00:12:19,299 Speaker 3: the outcome that we've come to day. 187 00:12:19,618 --> 00:12:23,018 Speaker 1: Well, the outcome is probably one of the worst. And 188 00:12:23,738 --> 00:12:28,018 Speaker 1: I suppose knowing that he was armed through the electorate, 189 00:12:28,539 --> 00:12:33,578 Speaker 1: the robberies over the years as well had police on guard, 190 00:12:33,738 --> 00:12:37,419 Speaker 1: so to speak. In terms of the solution that we've 191 00:12:37,419 --> 00:12:41,419 Speaker 1: come at today, what do you think the way forward is? 192 00:12:42,019 --> 00:12:49,299 Speaker 3: Look, the police will do an investigation. Now I'm looking 193 00:12:49,419 --> 00:12:52,659 Speaker 3: forward to seeing the completion of that and then to 194 00:12:52,738 --> 00:12:56,739 Speaker 3: see whether there can be And it comes back to 195 00:12:56,779 --> 00:13:00,699 Speaker 3: what I've just been saying, whether we need be good 196 00:13:00,738 --> 00:13:05,498 Speaker 3: to see the Commissioner for Children be able to make 197 00:13:05,539 --> 00:13:11,458 Speaker 3: a submission into this process too. So you know, the 198 00:13:11,858 --> 00:13:15,939 Speaker 3: outcome we've got to is the outcome we've got, and 199 00:13:15,978 --> 00:13:24,139 Speaker 3: it's really tragic, and so you know, I guess, yeah, 200 00:13:24,218 --> 00:13:30,059 Speaker 3: the learnings from this perhaps we can bring forward and see, Yeah, 201 00:13:30,139 --> 00:13:33,739 Speaker 3: if there's a better way. We knew, you know that 202 00:13:35,458 --> 00:13:40,179 Speaker 3: if this, if Tom was confronted. I'm sure the police 203 00:13:40,218 --> 00:13:45,059 Speaker 3: knew that if he was confronted there could be an 204 00:13:45,098 --> 00:13:50,258 Speaker 3: issue in this instance. He I think rightly the police 205 00:13:51,059 --> 00:13:56,259 Speaker 3: did what they did and managed to find him, but 206 00:13:57,699 --> 00:13:59,858 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would have thought it would have 207 00:13:59,978 --> 00:14:04,779 Speaker 3: ended in such a violent way. So it's very sad. 208 00:14:05,578 --> 00:14:08,059 Speaker 1: And the police officer who was first on this saying 209 00:14:08,218 --> 00:14:09,858 Speaker 1: he was local, he's a. 210 00:14:09,819 --> 00:14:15,778 Speaker 3: Local cop from pu pu Ari area, yes, and long term, long. 211 00:14:15,539 --> 00:14:18,618 Speaker 1: Serving and that must be terrible for the community. It 212 00:14:18,618 --> 00:14:20,219 Speaker 1: seems to so tight knit. 213 00:14:21,499 --> 00:14:23,018 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very sad. 214 00:14:23,859 --> 00:14:28,299 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you okay? Yep? 215 00:14:31,059 --> 00:14:34,619 Speaker 3: But I mean this is the you know, when you 216 00:14:34,619 --> 00:14:39,019 Speaker 3: think of the impact on the community. We know the 217 00:14:39,099 --> 00:14:42,658 Speaker 3: people in this, you know, we know the family of 218 00:14:42,899 --> 00:14:46,579 Speaker 3: Mara copa Tom's family, We know the cop and the 219 00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:51,379 Speaker 3: family and so yeah. 220 00:14:51,259 --> 00:14:52,979 Speaker 1: Have you spoken to his family. 221 00:14:53,259 --> 00:14:56,219 Speaker 3: No, I haven't. I think I just need to give 222 00:14:56,259 --> 00:14:59,299 Speaker 3: them time. 223 00:15:01,419 --> 00:15:04,739 Speaker 1: And if you had a word to the community about 224 00:15:05,939 --> 00:15:08,659 Speaker 1: how to feel, or had any words of advice, what 225 00:15:08,659 --> 00:15:09,139 Speaker 1: would they be. 226 00:15:09,939 --> 00:15:12,898 Speaker 3: Look, we the community will do this. I don't need 227 00:15:12,939 --> 00:15:19,739 Speaker 3: to advise them. They will support those most closely impacted. 228 00:15:20,019 --> 00:15:24,258 Speaker 3: So it's a great, great community. The Maricopa community out there, 229 00:15:24,779 --> 00:15:30,459 Speaker 3: farming community will come round and pupure heart as well. 230 00:15:31,459 --> 00:15:33,379 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much for talking to us today. 231 00:15:33,459 --> 00:15:33,739 Speaker 2: John. 232 00:15:34,379 --> 00:15:35,659 Speaker 3: All right, now you're welcome. 233 00:15:38,579 --> 00:15:41,779 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of the Front Page. You 234 00:15:41,819 --> 00:15:45,739 Speaker 1: can read more about today's stories and extensive news coverage 235 00:15:45,739 --> 00:15:49,859 Speaker 1: at enzidherld dot co dot nz. 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