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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons news.

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Speaker 2: Talk said, be very good afternoons. You welcome into Friday show.

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Speaker 2: Really great to have your wet us. Hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 3: Get I met.

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Speaker 4: Hey, good news, I've got a brand new kitchen.

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 3: The bad news is in my garret all right, okay,

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Speaker 3: But the good.

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Speaker 4: News is that the people that dropped it off were

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Speaker 4: such good dudes.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you get really really good service, I think

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Speaker 4: it's it's good to celebrate it, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the delivery company was called on send. A couple

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Speaker 4: of great gentlemen turned up so polite yep, and was

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Speaker 4: so professional and you know, asked all the right questions

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Speaker 4: about putting stuff. We're and we're just good, cheerful dudes.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you immediately get pested as soon as

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Speaker 4: anyone does anything for you for your you know, your

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Speaker 4: feedback on it, which I find kind of annoying. You know,

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Speaker 4: if I buy something, they immediately ask me how do

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Speaker 4: we do?

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Speaker 6: How we do?

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Speaker 4: I find that annoying, But because these guys were so good,

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Speaker 4: I immediately gave them a good good response.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 4: You know, out of the scroll down list of things

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Speaker 4: that you could say that you thought was that you,

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Speaker 4: that you thought was positive about the experience, I clicked manners.

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Speaker 3: Good on you. See, manners as as good men as

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Speaker 3: are hard to find these days.

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Speaker 4: Manners maketh the man as they say, they certainly do.

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Speaker 4: But just people turning up and being incredibly friendly and

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Speaker 4: polite and making sure that they aren't putting you out

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Speaker 4: in any way, bloody good on them, mate.

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Speaker 2: It gives you a boost, doesn't it, particularly on a

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Speaker 2: Friday morning. So when does the kitchen actually go in?

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Speaker 4: Well, see that that's the thing. There's just a lot

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Speaker 4: of bits to it. Yep, there's a lot. There was

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Speaker 4: a lot of packages. The garage is full of the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: That's exciting though.

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Speaker 4: And then and then then some other people will turn

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Speaker 4: up and turn the kitchen. Actually, my mate Andrew is

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Speaker 4: going to turn up and turn it. What the kitchen

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Speaker 3: Good on you, Andrew, Yeah, yeah, very good.

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Speaker 4: Right, if you're listening, Andrew, I need to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: He's ready to go, Nore, he needs a kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Right on to today's show after three point thirty, because

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Speaker 2: it is a Friday at the moment, you're waitful New

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Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week, looking forward to that. Also a

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Speaker 2: a check to an astrophysicist, Artamis two mission. Of course,

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Speaker 2: they are on their way back to Earth. They're looking

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Speaker 2: at re entry tomorrow our time. And look, I'm no

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Speaker 2: astrophysicist myself, but apparently that is a very tricky part

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Speaker 2: of the operation coming back to Earth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I imagine every time, anytime you have to deal

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Speaker 4: Just going to say something stupid. Most crashes happen on landing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all crashes happen on landing. Yeah, yeah, some landings crashes,

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Speaker 4: that's very true. But yeah, we also just want to

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Speaker 2: Hitch Yeah, yep. And the learnings as well. That is

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Speaker 2: a little bit later after three o'clock. We also want

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Speaker 2: to talk about mc fleetwood loosely. He is quietly married

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Speaker 2: as longtime partner Elizabeth Jordan at the age of seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: later year glimpses of their honeymoon on social media all

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Speaker 2: very beautiful. But the number we want to focus on

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Speaker 4: Impressive. He is a lover or not. He's either either

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Speaker 2: to mcnumbers. Yeah, yeah, so that is after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: After two o'clock, New researchers questioning how much New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: really need utes, showing that despite their rugged rural image,

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Speaker 2: The analysis of this travel data also found around two

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Speaker 4: I shamefully bought an expensive four wheel drive ute dreams

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's a New Zealand dream, doesn't it To

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Speaker 4: I need yeah, because I want to do youty things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got dreams of doing all those beautiful things

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Speaker 4: I might want to go to the tip yep. And

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Speaker 2: So the trades trades need a you, they certainly do.

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Speaker 2: But looking forward to your stories on that after two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: If you have a used in the city, do you

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Speaker 2: about the Broadcasting Standards Authority. The government is considering scrapping

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Speaker 2: BSA found it still had jurisdiction because the content they

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Speaker 2: for Broadcasting. Minister Paul Goldsmith He was on with Ryan

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Speaker 9: Well, we haven't made any government decisions, so there's three options.

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Speaker 9: Either scrap it or try and change the law so

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Speaker 9: it is clear about what it covers because it was

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Speaker 9: done twenty years thirty years ago when people didn't you know,

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Speaker 9: the Internet didn't existence, So it doesn't sort of make

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Speaker 4: Change it or scrap it.

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Speaker 10: What do you recommend that.

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Speaker 9: We haven't decided. I'm tempted to scrap it and simply

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Speaker 9: replace it with the Media Council, but that's something we've

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Speaker 4: Broadcasting Standards Authority regulates the responsible, tax paying part of

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Speaker 4: heavy rubbish, well everything else, social media, podcast whatever can

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Speaker 4: world it was designed to control. It's just all of

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Speaker 4: say something is in their remit because it looks like it,

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Speaker 4: standards of the nineteen eighty nine Broadcasting Act of New Zealand. No,

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Speaker 4: it's just a waste of time, so just leave us alone.

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Speaker 4: It's like telling the family this.

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Speaker 4: I tried this on you before my analogy here. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you didn't think it was very good, but I'm going

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Speaker 3: To give it another role.

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Speaker 4: It's like telling the family and the stands watching a

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good. The second time, Like, stations.

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Speaker 4: Like this are you know, businesses and we're free services

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Speaker 4: that have enough on our plates fighting the big global

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Speaker 4: media fight without dealing with this antiquated administration from bureaucrats

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Speaker 4: else is just running around on fire. The law already

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Speaker 4: covers slander and defamation. Apart from that, will regulate ourselves.

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Speaker 4: If people don't like what we say, they can turn off.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: So do we need to have Broadcasting Standards Authority? Do

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Speaker 4: we need broadcasting standards? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Nicely said Mat. And what do you say? Do you

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Speaker 3: agree with Matt? Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty?

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Speaker 2: Does it make sense that the government has an organization

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Speaker 2: looking after some standards but not others? Nine two ninety

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Speaker 4: Has Laighton Smith had four marriages?

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Speaker 3: I believe that's about right? Yeah, Yeah, he's got great pipes,

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Speaker 2: does the Broadcasting Standards Authority still have a place in

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Speaker 4: Text Matt, A text, This is broadcasters regulating themselves. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: Very good afternoon, it's twenty five past one. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about the Broadcasting Standards Authority. Paul Goldsmith told Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 3: They saw what.

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Speaker 4: broadcasting standards. Key restrictions include good taste and decency, no

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Speaker 4: Discrimination and denigration not allowed to get involved in that.

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Speaker 4: According to the Imbalanced, important public issues should present significant viewpoints, Accuracy.

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Speaker 4: Privacy cannot disclose private facts about identifyle individuals without justification.

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Speaker 15: I'm tempted to scrap it. The biggest sign yet the

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. When it is twenty seven to two.

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Speaker 2: So the government is considering scrapping the Broadcasting Standards Authority

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Speaker 4: So what does the BSA actually cover? Shamee.

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Speaker 16: So the BSA right now and today, it would argue

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Speaker 3: It's us Matt.

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Speaker 16: Matt's probably been in front of the BSA a few

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Speaker 16: to a major political argument. We've seen both Winston Peters

437
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Speaker 16: and the ACT Party come out and say they want

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Speaker 16: the BSA abolished. The whole media regulation landscape needs to

439
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Speaker 16: be reformed and a lot of people are pushing for

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Speaker 16: one superregulator. And this morning the latest development is that

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Speaker 16: the Media and Communications Minister Paul Godsmith has said yes,

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Speaker 16: I am actually tempted to scrap it. He's got three

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Speaker 16: options as he sees it. The main option that he

444
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Speaker 16: seems to be going down the track of now is

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Speaker 16: to get rid of the BSA and possibly look at

446
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Speaker 16: a regulator coming in, such as the Media Council. He

447
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Speaker 16: says he likes the Media Council model. The Media Council

448
00:21:45,253 --> 00:21:49,053
Speaker 16: looks after text based journalism, so digital, it would look

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Speaker 16: after video that the Heralds, stuff and others are producing,

450
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Speaker 16: as he'd be as well. So it is a bit

451
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Speaker 16: of a mishmash. It's confusing for people who are listening

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Speaker 16: or reading as to if they have a complaint about

453
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Speaker 16: content where they had to the lights of Netflix and

454
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Speaker 16: some of these overseas streams don't have any kind of safeguards.

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Speaker 16: And also all this needs to be tied in together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's nineteen eighty nine, so the famously

457
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Speaker 4: changing media landscape. It's quite amazing that it's just sitting there,

458
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Speaker 4: but doesn't make many people, I imagine, feel comfortable when

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Speaker 4: a government legislated organization, although they describe as independent, decides

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Speaker 4: to try and extend the kingdom of areas they can censor.

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Speaker 4: We don't like that, do we.

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 16: To be fair to the bsay Matt, they have actually

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Speaker 16: been pushing for about two decades for reform themselves. And

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Speaker 16: I wonder if they have actually forced the government's hand

466
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Speaker 16: purposely here, because you know, they until now have been

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Speaker 16: restricted to television and radio content. They are probably seeing

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Speaker 16: this whole landscape sort of changing, and you know where

469
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Speaker 16: audiences are heading before them. They have argued that, yep,

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Speaker 16: we need change here, and so it almost forced the

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Speaker 16: government's hand and to change here saying we'll take on

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Speaker 16: the platform's content then if no one else will, and

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Speaker 16: so that certainly has led to this political people.

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Speaker 4: It must seem ridiculous to them if you're going into

475
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Speaker 4: work whenever they meet and in their pockets on their phones,

476
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Speaker 4: they've got the world of the most offensive and legally

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Speaker 4: dodgy material you could possibly imagine from all kinds of creators,

478
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Speaker 4: not just in New Zealand, but fromround the world. It's

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Speaker 4: not a situation. Now we've got three TV channels and

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Speaker 4: some radio stations. It's all there. Meanwhile, they are beating

481
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Speaker 4: up on a tiny, tiny part of the media, in

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Speaker 4: my opinion, the media that pays taxes, employees, people, and

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Speaker 4: is a positive within New Zealand. That's precisely right.

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Speaker 16: And the argument from the New Zealand media companies is

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Speaker 16: and from the lights of the production companies and so forth,

486
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Speaker 16: is that the local production companies is that on a

487
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Speaker 16: number of issues, the international streamers have to contribute much

488
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Speaker 16: more to New Zealand society and regulating them to it

489
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Speaker 16: to a certain extent is necess Now. Former Judge David

490
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Speaker 16: Harvey's put out a great paper that's been released today

491
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Speaker 16: that's part of the media inside a column that's available,

492
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Speaker 16: but it's a fascinating paper. He's also a free speech

493
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Speaker 16: advocate's and he's saying, you know, there is an importance

494
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Speaker 16: here between making sure the regular tree environment is right

495
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Speaker 16: but also balancing the importance of making sure free speech

496
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Speaker 16: is still there.

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Speaker 2: The government's in a tricky position here, isn't it, Particularly

498
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Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith, that even if they scraps the BSA and

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Speaker 2: then it's under the media accounts, or they try to

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Speaker 2: rewrite the Broadcasting Act to encompass this new modern environment.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's trying to regulate the Internet, and

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Speaker 2: they know they've come into problems trying to regulate the

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Speaker 2: Internet in some circles before, so they're in a real

504
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Speaker 2: tricky position here on how can we still maintain some standards,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time, how do we determine who

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Speaker 2: is under our remed and who is not.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and that's what makes former Judge David Harvey's paper

508
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Speaker 16: so interesting, and that he's broken down this one sort

509
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Speaker 16: of I guess if you like a superregulator, but within

510
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Speaker 16: that having three different the visions which look at separately

511
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Speaker 16: news media, then other content that we see on the Internet,

512
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Speaker 16: and then the lights of the local stream of the

513
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Speaker 16: international streamers and so forth. So there are ways and

514
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Speaker 16: means that you can delineate those different types of content

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Speaker 16: and ensuring that free speech is still upheld, and that

516
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Speaker 16: as I say that some of these international outfits are

517
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Speaker 16: held to account.

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Speaker 4: Imagine a world where this show, and let's say, because

519
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Speaker 4: this is our radio station news talks, he'd be wasn't

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Speaker 4: regulated by any government body outside of defamation law and

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Speaker 4: harmful and legal content laws. Would the world end? Would

522
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Speaker 4: the whole society burned down and people would just suddenly

523
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Speaker 4: be disgusted and shocked all the time. Or would we

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Speaker 4: regulate because we need to keep an audience.

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Speaker 16: You need to keep an audience. But you did write

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Speaker 16: around the Defamation Act and the other legislation that's already

527
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Speaker 16: in place, and of course that does you know, whenever

528
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Speaker 16: we're writing articles for the Herald or producing content for

529
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Speaker 16: news talks, he'd me, we always have in mind those

530
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Speaker 16: the journalistic principles and my case and for you guys,

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Speaker 16: the broadcasting principles that need to be upheld and maintained.

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Speaker 16: And you know, we've often got lawyers alongside us helping

533
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Speaker 16: us with our stories and with our journalism to make

534
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Speaker 16: ensuring it's you know, fear accurate and balanced and absolutely Matt,

535
00:26:30,173 --> 00:26:34,213
Speaker 16: you know where the Media Council itself is self regulatory.

536
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Speaker 16: And that's the kind of model that Paul Godsmith's looking

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Speaker 16: at for the entire content industry.

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Speaker 4: The just the final thing on it. We have no

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Speaker 4: power as a country to tell the big companies like

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Speaker 4: Meta what to do. They just won't. If you try

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Speaker 4: and tell YouTube to change its content to fit what

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Speaker 4: we want, they'll go no, or just leave. So aren't

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Speaker 4: we in a situation where we're not. We're a tiny

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Speaker 4: little country, we're a tiny little market. We don't have

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Speaker 4: any say on what happens with what they do, So

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Speaker 4: why would we try and have Why would you kneecap

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Speaker 4: our own businesses that pay taxes? As I say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I do think things are changing internationally, not just not

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Speaker 4: necessarily on this particular aspect and point, but if you

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Speaker 4: look at the lights of the band on social media

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Speaker 4: for the under sixteens in Australia and other countries, that

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Speaker 4: and that's obviously what the government here is considering. I

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Speaker 4: do think, you know, there's been a lot of commentary

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Speaker 4: in the last month or so that the social media

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Speaker 4: giants are facing their big tobacco moment, and that's being

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Speaker 4: driven by consumers worried about the I guess the impact

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Speaker 4: that it's having, particularly on young people. You know, we're

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Speaker 4: seeing cases this week of a young kid who took

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Speaker 4: their own life as a result of being extorted desperately

560
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Speaker 4: through social media, desperately sad, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's a reguard action, I guess, but I do think

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Speaker 4: there will be change in this area in the next

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Speaker 4: few years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fascinating, fascinating situation. Shane, thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for coming and even.

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Speaker 3: Yet with us. You have a good afternoon. Thanks guys,

567
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Speaker 3: catch up again as soon.

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Speaker 2: That is Shane Curry ended me editor at large and

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Speaker 2: rider of the Popular Media in So taking your calls

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Speaker 2: on that eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: It is nineteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

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Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth Talk, say'd.

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Speaker 2: Be it is sixteen to two. So we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the potential scrapping of the Broadcast Broadcasting Standards Authority. That's

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Speaker 2: what Paul Goldsmith mentioned to Ryan Bridge this morning. Plenty

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Speaker 2: of texts coming through, but let's go to Alan get Allen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the wholeheartly that last speaking he covered all of

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00:28:41,013 --> 00:28:45,053
Speaker 5: it basically, and I think it does need scrapping because

580
00:28:45,133 --> 00:28:48,413
Speaker 5: says the rules are written, it doesn't have jurisdiction over

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Speaker 5: anyet in any capacity. They may think they do, but

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Speaker 5: they don't. If it was challenged in law, that'd lose

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00:28:56,253 --> 00:28:57,893
Speaker 5: it and over first.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even know how they would

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Speaker 4: even start when the Internet is as close to infinite

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00:29:03,973 --> 00:29:06,693
Speaker 4: as any media is likely to come in our country,

587
00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:10,653
Speaker 4: and people can just rustle up whatever they want to watch.

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00:29:10,693 --> 00:29:11,773
Speaker 4: So what do you do? Do you do?

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Speaker 9: You do?

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Speaker 4: They send a sternly worded letter to Rus. You know,

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Speaker 4: Joe Rogan when he steps outside of what is seen

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Speaker 4: by the New Zealand Broadcasting Standards Association is a breach

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Speaker 4: of good taste and decency.

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Speaker 5: Ellen, Yeah, that's why I say it's a it's a joke,

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Speaker 5: like if I heard something come off British broadcasting by

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Speaker 5: the net. They have no jurisdiction over there on it. No,

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Speaker 5: they couldn't do a deem thing. Do you think they're

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Speaker 5: laughing in the wind?

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Speaker 4: Do you think allan that broadcasting say, the the kind

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Speaker 4: of broadcasters that the Broadcasting Standards Authority was set up

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Speaker 4: to regulate in the Broadcasting Act nine eighty nine. Do

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Speaker 4: you think are you happy with the standard of broadcasting

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Speaker 4: that that you hear in terms of you know, good

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Speaker 4: taste and decency and all those things balance our accuracy, privacy, fairness,

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00:30:04,653 --> 00:30:06,253
Speaker 4: all those kind of things. Do you do you see that.

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Speaker 5: When you see it? Accuracy? You lost me there lost it.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: TV would be the biggest culper in that area. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: they have a place in there in domestic radio, but

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Speaker 5: they can't overreach. They shouldn't overreach it. It's good to

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Speaker 5: have good basic standards, human standards and no defamation on individuals.

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Speaker 2: But that's self regulating, isn't it. Alan, that's self regulating.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned a shame befomat, but I think

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Speaker 2: it's a good point that if the BSA were to

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Speaker 2: disappear and we've got no boy, no government body looking

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Speaker 2: after what we broadcast, It's not like tomorrow We're going

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Speaker 2: to start using swear words and going completely ballistic. We

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Speaker 2: just wouldn't because our audience would not expect that from us,

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Speaker 2: and they would leave in droves.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we just turned off, and that would be the

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Speaker 5: biggest policing achieve. Get a lot of listeners turn off

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Speaker 5: to them. Don't have a few that hang in there,

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Speaker 5: but the rest of the population would turn awten wasting

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Speaker 5: the time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your call, Ellen, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Accuracy is an interesting one. Using current affairs must be

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Speaker 4: factually correct and not misleading. That's a that's a tough

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Speaker 4: one because I would say there's a lot of there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of news and current affairs that are that

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Speaker 4: are intentionally misleading. Yeah, I mean there's a particular example,

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Speaker 4: and actually I'm not sure how this one. I know

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Speaker 4: there was complaints about it. I'm not sure how this one.

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Speaker 4: I should look into it how it came up. But

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Speaker 4: accusations that are visit to our Shaws was making far

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Speaker 4: right signals when she was doing up the zip on

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Speaker 4: her jacket, which was the most insane thing that I

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Speaker 4: think any media organization has ever claimed about someone, Completely

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00:31:49,693 --> 00:31:56,173
Speaker 4: an utterly insane and fabricated accusation. Yeah, you know, in

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Speaker 4: a huge, long interview to just pack a movement that

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Speaker 4: is quite normal for someone and put all this this this,

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Speaker 4: you know, these accusations and conspiracy theories behind it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I know that we can plants. I look and

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Speaker 4: see if that one, that one got uphel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, yeah, wild assumptions like that in

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Speaker 2: a news report to say, do you like they were

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Speaker 2: doing this, but there's no proof to it.

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Speaker 4: Everyone in that newsroom that made that accusation was either

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Speaker 4: in such a deep bubble that they thought it was

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Speaker 4: real or being actively malicious.

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, taking your call. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. What do

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Speaker 2: you think about the Broadcasting Standards Authority doesn't make any

653
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Speaker 2: sense in twenty twenty six, if you want to send

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Speaker 2: a text, nine two nine two is that number.

655
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Speaker 3: It's twelve to two.

656
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

657
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

658
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Speaker 3: NEWSTALGSB news DOALGSB. It's nine to two.

659
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Speaker 4: Guys. You're obviously told by the powers that be not

660
00:32:54,813 --> 00:32:57,053
Speaker 4: to mention some things. You never speak on the subject

661
00:32:57,053 --> 00:33:00,173
Speaker 4: of Chris Hipkins lying about the COVID nineteen vaccine. No,

662
00:33:00,253 --> 00:33:02,013
Speaker 4: we did talk about that the other day. We're not

663
00:33:02,093 --> 00:33:02,933
Speaker 4: We're not under.

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Speaker 2: I think you just proved that Texas point, though the

665
00:33:05,453 --> 00:33:08,973
Speaker 2: very fact that you read it out would say that, No,

666
00:33:09,133 --> 00:33:11,693
Speaker 2: there's no overarching.

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00:33:11,213 --> 00:33:14,213
Speaker 4: What powers it be? We're talking about the powers that

668
00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:18,133
Speaker 4: be from the Broadcasting Standards Association. So what that thing

669
00:33:18,133 --> 00:33:21,373
Speaker 4: I was talking about before? While the BSA did uphold

670
00:33:21,373 --> 00:33:27,653
Speaker 4: a complaint against news Hub, this report blurred. This person

671
00:33:27,693 --> 00:33:29,293
Speaker 4: was talking about his hands while she was zipping up

672
00:33:29,293 --> 00:33:31,413
Speaker 4: her top and claimed she was using a hand signal

673
00:33:31,453 --> 00:33:34,733
Speaker 4: link to white supremacist, which was a completely and utterly

674
00:33:34,773 --> 00:33:37,253
Speaker 4: insane thing to say, So that was upheld. I'm not

675
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Speaker 4: sure what the punishment was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A couple more teachs coming through on nine two nine two.

678
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:45,973
Speaker 2: This one says, guys, two things. One totally agree with

679
00:33:46,053 --> 00:33:48,133
Speaker 2: Matt in a way, Whilst there needs to be standards

680
00:33:48,133 --> 00:33:50,813
Speaker 2: and broadcasting, what's the point and a regulator who has

681
00:33:50,853 --> 00:33:56,453
Speaker 2: no influence over TikTok etc. Two for later. Oh, he

682
00:33:56,493 --> 00:33:58,933
Speaker 2: wants to talk about a utes a little bit later on.

683
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:01,893
Speaker 2: But to that first point, Yeah, that's exactly what we're saying, right,

684
00:34:02,093 --> 00:34:03,773
Speaker 2: What is the point in the regulator that can't do

685
00:34:03,813 --> 00:34:05,173
Speaker 2: anything about TikTok videos?

686
00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:07,373
Speaker 3: YouTube, Facebook reddits?

687
00:34:07,453 --> 00:34:09,093
Speaker 2: The list goes on, and I could sit here all

688
00:34:09,133 --> 00:34:12,293
Speaker 2: day talking about the various Internet content that exists.

689
00:34:12,573 --> 00:34:17,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's one of those things, you know why.

690
00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:21,373
Speaker 4: And it's interesting what Shane Curry said before media inside

691
00:34:22,253 --> 00:34:25,973
Speaker 4: that perhaps I've been a little bit unfair because I

692
00:34:26,813 --> 00:34:30,333
Speaker 4: saw what the BSA was doing was in an attempt

693
00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:35,293
Speaker 4: to extend their remit and a chilling gambit to try

694
00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:39,413
Speaker 4: and censor more more people by claiming that if it

695
00:34:39,413 --> 00:34:41,252
Speaker 4: looks like a radio show. It is a radio show,

696
00:34:41,653 --> 00:34:44,093
Speaker 4: which just seems like the most insane thing to say.

697
00:34:44,293 --> 00:34:46,533
Speaker 4: But his reading on it is that what they might

698
00:34:46,533 --> 00:34:49,732
Speaker 4: have been doing is testing it because they're sitting there

699
00:34:49,773 --> 00:34:52,533
Speaker 4: going what we're doing is absolutely ridiculous. It's humiliating. We're

700
00:34:52,533 --> 00:34:54,493
Speaker 4: walking to work every day feeling red in the face

701
00:34:54,853 --> 00:34:57,692
Speaker 4: because we're we're what we're doing here? Yeah, and if

702
00:34:57,733 --> 00:35:00,213
Speaker 4: that's everything is going on the internet, what are we

703
00:35:00,253 --> 00:35:04,813
Speaker 4: doing here and just testing the government to see what

704
00:35:04,853 --> 00:35:06,893
Speaker 4: the limits of what they're doing is. I mean, that's

705
00:35:06,933 --> 00:35:10,053
Speaker 4: the your men view of what they're doing. Yeah, yeah,

706
00:35:10,493 --> 00:35:13,293
Speaker 4: maybe that's the case. And if that's the case, then

707
00:35:13,453 --> 00:35:17,253
Speaker 4: then you know that that definitely does need to be tested. Absolutely,

708
00:35:17,293 --> 00:35:19,933
Speaker 4: But they might test themselves out of existence. Yeah, maybe

709
00:35:19,973 --> 00:35:22,333
Speaker 4: that's what they want, yep, spot on. Maybe they want

710
00:35:22,373 --> 00:35:23,253
Speaker 4: their Wednesday afternoons.

711
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Speaker 3: But Maria, how are you this afternoon?

712
00:35:27,453 --> 00:35:27,652
Speaker 11: Good?

713
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Speaker 17: Thank you?

714
00:35:28,373 --> 00:35:29,812
Speaker 3: Now you think we still need to be essay?

715
00:35:31,173 --> 00:35:33,333
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think. Look, I think there's definitely a role

716
00:35:33,373 --> 00:35:36,253
Speaker 17: for that organization. And I do get the point that

717
00:35:36,293 --> 00:35:38,652
Speaker 17: people are saying, Look, there's so much out online and

718
00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:43,133
Speaker 17: sometimes you think anything goes But I think most people

719
00:35:43,253 --> 00:35:46,653
Speaker 17: still understand that there are platforms where you have anything goes,

720
00:35:46,733 --> 00:35:49,732
Speaker 17: and then you have to trusted platforms like your own,

721
00:35:50,413 --> 00:35:53,333
Speaker 17: you know, your own newscast where people, I mean they

722
00:35:53,373 --> 00:35:55,773
Speaker 17: have a privileged platform. There were a lot of people

723
00:35:56,093 --> 00:35:58,853
Speaker 17: are listening in. You're reaching a lot of people and

724
00:35:59,573 --> 00:36:04,172
Speaker 17: that needs to be monitored for standards. I talk from

725
00:36:04,173 --> 00:36:07,133
Speaker 17: a personal perspective. I have actually put in a complaint

726
00:36:07,173 --> 00:36:09,933
Speaker 17: against something that had I mentioned once in one of

727
00:36:09,933 --> 00:36:13,133
Speaker 17: the broadcasts, and it was a fairly straightforward process. I

728
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:15,853
Speaker 17: first came to do sooks at B I was referred

729
00:36:15,893 --> 00:36:17,853
Speaker 17: to the B s A and you know, and so

730
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Speaker 17: off your ends. But I think it's important that there's

731
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Speaker 17: some kind of regulation there. And I don't believe you

732
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Speaker 17: should be on the same platform as a TikTok. It

733
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Speaker 17: is very different.

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Speaker 12: You have a lot of times do.

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Speaker 4: You think do you think that it's fear though, Maria,

736
00:36:32,293 --> 00:36:35,493
Speaker 4: that that you know, anyone can complain and then a

737
00:36:35,533 --> 00:36:37,413
Speaker 4: company like news Talks z B and I don't know

738
00:36:37,453 --> 00:36:39,093
Speaker 4: anything about your complaint. We don't need to go into

739
00:36:39,093 --> 00:36:41,453
Speaker 4: that details. And you sound like a lovely person, but

740
00:36:41,453 --> 00:36:45,853
Speaker 4: but that that every everyone can can complain and a

741
00:36:45,893 --> 00:36:47,933
Speaker 4: company that's just trying to make its way in the

742
00:36:47,933 --> 00:36:51,653
Speaker 4: world against this onslaught of overseas media with no rules

743
00:36:52,733 --> 00:36:54,933
Speaker 4: it's trying to make their way, has to spend so

744
00:36:55,093 --> 00:36:57,933
Speaker 4: much of their time, you know, as as a company

745
00:36:57,973 --> 00:37:01,053
Speaker 4: as news talk z'd be going through each complaint and

746
00:37:01,253 --> 00:37:04,093
Speaker 4: dealing with it. Where the people that that this company

747
00:37:04,133 --> 00:37:07,013
Speaker 4: is competing against this this channel community don't have to

748
00:37:07,013 --> 00:37:12,413
Speaker 4: do that. So it's just a massive resource and levies

749
00:37:12,773 --> 00:37:16,533
Speaker 4: to to do this. Do this when when when the

750
00:37:16,573 --> 00:37:18,812
Speaker 4: people that that we're competing with that have no rules

751
00:37:18,853 --> 00:37:20,692
Speaker 4: don't have to don't have to do that. So it's

752
00:37:20,693 --> 00:37:22,533
Speaker 4: a it's a double anchor around our necks.

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00:37:23,333 --> 00:37:25,413
Speaker 17: Yeah, look at and I understand it, And I don't

754
00:37:25,413 --> 00:37:27,893
Speaker 17: believe that things need to be made more difficult for

755
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:32,213
Speaker 17: established places or places as you indicate are up and coming.

756
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Speaker 17: But I think when you're working in a very high

757
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Speaker 17: trust space, which is media, you know, like like you

758
00:37:39,053 --> 00:37:43,693
Speaker 17: guys are, I don't think that I don't think that

759
00:37:43,773 --> 00:37:46,613
Speaker 17: you should be put on the same platform as all

760
00:37:46,693 --> 00:37:53,053
Speaker 17: of the uprising mistrust anything goes this information type broadcasting

761
00:37:53,053 --> 00:37:56,093
Speaker 17: that result there, and I think most people understand the difference.

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Speaker 17: And look, I have no idea what kind of amount

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00:37:59,413 --> 00:38:03,373
Speaker 17: of complaints an organization like yourself will be dealing with

764
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Speaker 17: and I hope it wouldn't be too much that is fixatious.

765
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Speaker 17: But I do like, well, yeah, look and like I

766
00:38:12,213 --> 00:38:14,413
Speaker 17: don't know that there may be other ways of dealing

767
00:38:14,453 --> 00:38:18,213
Speaker 17: with it, but getting let us the BSA. I just

768
00:38:18,253 --> 00:38:21,333
Speaker 17: don't really like to think that there wouldn't have been

769
00:38:21,413 --> 00:38:23,493
Speaker 17: the avenue that I could take, for example, if I

770
00:38:23,573 --> 00:38:25,973
Speaker 17: want to if I'm upset about something that's said and

771
00:38:26,013 --> 00:38:28,013
Speaker 17: I wanted to go somewhere and I don't get the

772
00:38:28,053 --> 00:38:31,573
Speaker 17: response I feel I should get from from you know,

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00:38:31,773 --> 00:38:32,613
Speaker 17: this organization.

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00:38:33,173 --> 00:38:35,413
Speaker 4: Sorry, it sounds bad that I have to cut you off,

775
00:38:35,413 --> 00:38:37,213
Speaker 4: but the news is coming in and we can't stop it.

776
00:38:37,373 --> 00:38:40,212
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Maria, fantastic points, and thank you very much

777
00:38:40,253 --> 00:38:42,493
Speaker 2: for giving us a call. Great discussion. We'll leave it

778
00:38:42,493 --> 00:38:44,813
Speaker 2: there because coming up after two o'clock we want to

779
00:38:44,853 --> 00:38:47,573
Speaker 2: talk about you drivers. Most of them just use a

780
00:38:47,613 --> 00:38:49,573
Speaker 2: you to go to the deairy to why do you

781
00:38:49,653 --> 00:38:50,493
Speaker 2: need It's news is.

782
00:38:50,533 --> 00:38:56,133
Speaker 1: Next, big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

783
00:38:56,453 --> 00:39:00,693
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News

784
00:39:00,733 --> 00:39:03,573
Speaker 1: Talk said, be very good Afternoons.

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Speaker 2: You welcome back into the program. It is seven past two.

786
00:39:07,013 --> 00:39:10,813
Speaker 2: Let's discuss es you research as questioning how much New

787
00:39:10,893 --> 00:39:14,453
Speaker 2: Zealanders actually need our beloved ute, showing that despite their

788
00:39:14,493 --> 00:39:17,973
Speaker 2: rugged rural image, most are actually used for everyday urban

789
00:39:18,013 --> 00:39:21,533
Speaker 2: trips like shopping, social outings and school dropoffs. The analysis

790
00:39:21,573 --> 00:39:24,732
Speaker 2: of national travel data found around two thirds of ute

791
00:39:24,733 --> 00:39:28,133
Speaker 2: trips are made in cities, Many are incredibly short journeys,

792
00:39:28,173 --> 00:39:31,053
Speaker 2: and nearly nine out of ten trips involved just the driver,

793
00:39:31,333 --> 00:39:35,053
Speaker 2: with the back seats rarely used. Researchers say this suggests

794
00:39:35,093 --> 00:39:37,813
Speaker 2: the size and power of utes often isn't necessary for

795
00:39:37,893 --> 00:39:43,652
Speaker 2: typical daily use, and they question our love affair with

796
00:39:43,733 --> 00:39:44,613
Speaker 2: the good old ute.

797
00:39:44,693 --> 00:39:48,493
Speaker 4: Ah right, so they don't think, what if I wanted you?

798
00:39:48,933 --> 00:39:50,213
Speaker 3: It's a little bit judge, isn't it.

799
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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That last part is say why are you so in

801
00:39:53,133 --> 00:39:54,413
Speaker 3: love with your ute? New Zealand.

802
00:39:54,573 --> 00:39:56,853
Speaker 4: I bought a brand new, beautiful ute. I was very

803
00:39:56,853 --> 00:40:00,453
Speaker 4: happy with it, and I went to take my kid

804
00:40:00,493 --> 00:40:03,853
Speaker 4: to cricket and one of the mothers said, what are

805
00:40:03,853 --> 00:40:08,973
Speaker 4: you building now? It's a good sledge yeah, and i' well,

806
00:40:09,453 --> 00:40:12,413
Speaker 4: but I was like, no, no, We'll use this ute

807
00:40:12,413 --> 00:40:14,493
Speaker 4: for taking the kids skiing. Like I've got all this

808
00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:17,333
Speaker 4: the cricket gear in the back. This this urban ute,

809
00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:23,293
Speaker 4: I've got this, this this massive four wheel drive. I

810
00:40:23,293 --> 00:40:24,893
Speaker 4: always wanted to ut and then I got a ute,

811
00:40:24,893 --> 00:40:26,373
Speaker 4: and I was so happy with my ute. It can

812
00:40:26,373 --> 00:40:28,973
Speaker 4: take you anywhere. Well, I mean there's that that people

813
00:40:29,013 --> 00:40:30,652
Speaker 4: when they buy ute and correct me if I'm wrong,

814
00:40:30,653 --> 00:40:33,053
Speaker 4: because I haven't owned a You. But you look at

815
00:40:33,053 --> 00:40:36,053
Speaker 4: that Berry Crump image right of driving up the hills.

816
00:40:36,213 --> 00:40:36,813
Speaker 3: You look at the.

817
00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:39,653
Speaker 2: Ute ads itself, and maybe we find a Ford Ranger

818
00:40:39,653 --> 00:40:41,853
Speaker 2: ad so we can play that. But it is always

819
00:40:41,973 --> 00:40:44,893
Speaker 2: driving like right next to a cleft, on top of

820
00:40:44,893 --> 00:40:48,613
Speaker 2: a massive mountain, smashing down the beach. All these places

821
00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:50,773
Speaker 2: that are Ford focus would never be able to get.

822
00:40:50,773 --> 00:40:54,253
Speaker 4: The thing as Tyler that that's how cars assault you.

823
00:40:54,253 --> 00:40:56,172
Speaker 4: You never see that. Cars aren't sold to you about

824
00:40:56,213 --> 00:40:58,253
Speaker 4: the commute to work. They sell freedom to you. They

825
00:40:58,293 --> 00:41:01,013
Speaker 4: sell the dream of getting out and expanding your life.

826
00:41:01,213 --> 00:41:05,653
Speaker 4: Yes they don't accel. They sell the idea that you'll

827
00:41:05,733 --> 00:41:09,013
Speaker 4: you'll have you and your family do amazing thing. It's adventure,

828
00:41:09,053 --> 00:41:11,893
Speaker 4: isn't it. It is so so you know you think

829
00:41:11,933 --> 00:41:14,253
Speaker 4: you're going to be bashing over some tussock, you know,

830
00:41:14,613 --> 00:41:18,613
Speaker 4: chasing a pig, but in actuality you just end up

831
00:41:19,453 --> 00:41:24,333
Speaker 4: struggling to parallel park it on a narrow street near

832
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Speaker 4: your work.

833
00:41:24,933 --> 00:41:27,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, so one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

834
00:41:27,413 --> 00:41:29,973
Speaker 2: If you've got a ute, do you genuinely use it

835
00:41:30,053 --> 00:41:32,373
Speaker 2: for all that it can do? The four wheel drive?

836
00:41:32,493 --> 00:41:34,493
Speaker 2: And do you get it out into the mud? Do

837
00:41:34,533 --> 00:41:37,293
Speaker 2: you take it off road? Or be honest, do you

838
00:41:37,373 --> 00:41:38,853
Speaker 2: just use it to drop the kids off at school

839
00:41:38,853 --> 00:41:41,053
Speaker 2: and shoot down to the dairy? Is there anything wrong

840
00:41:41,693 --> 00:41:45,293
Speaker 2: with what I did, which was run a ute as

841
00:41:45,573 --> 00:41:48,772
Speaker 2: a rolling extra shed or I kept stuff that didn't

842
00:41:48,813 --> 00:41:50,652
Speaker 2: have room for anywhere else.

843
00:41:51,133 --> 00:41:54,093
Speaker 4: And you know a lot of sports gear. It had

844
00:41:54,173 --> 00:41:57,173
Speaker 4: the snowboarding gear in there all year round.

845
00:41:57,413 --> 00:41:58,693
Speaker 3: How many times you go snowboarding?

846
00:41:59,253 --> 00:42:01,333
Speaker 4: Well, I'd always think, as I bought this uet because

847
00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:03,652
Speaker 4: I thought I'd start going snowboarding and skiing in the

848
00:42:03,693 --> 00:42:05,813
Speaker 4: North Island, but then I started. But I always go

849
00:42:05,853 --> 00:42:07,253
Speaker 4: to the South Island because I love it down there.

850
00:42:07,253 --> 00:42:09,533
Speaker 4: So I was flying down there and tinger four by

851
00:42:09,613 --> 00:42:13,212
Speaker 4: four always the way. Hey guys, I'm in a brand

852
00:42:13,213 --> 00:42:16,652
Speaker 4: new Ranger. Don't really need it, but so wanted it. Yeah,

853
00:42:16,653 --> 00:42:17,813
Speaker 4: I love this guy. I could have had a red

854
00:42:17,813 --> 00:42:21,413
Speaker 4: four but stuff hybrid, love the diesel and the power.

855
00:42:21,933 --> 00:42:23,773
Speaker 4: Don't need the room, and I'm not paying for the

856
00:42:23,773 --> 00:42:26,733
Speaker 4: fuel work has been but yeah, look I'm with Ben.

857
00:42:27,013 --> 00:42:29,732
Speaker 4: I don't really need it, but I want it. What's

858
00:42:29,733 --> 00:42:30,173
Speaker 4: wrong with that?

859
00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:30,613
Speaker 10: Yeah?

860
00:42:30,653 --> 00:42:31,212
Speaker 3: What do you say?

861
00:42:31,213 --> 00:42:31,333
Speaker 11: Oh?

862
00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:33,172
Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Even if you don't

863
00:42:33,173 --> 00:42:35,493
Speaker 2: need you yute for the full will drive capacity, do

864
00:42:35,613 --> 00:42:37,573
Speaker 2: you just love it? Nine two ninety two is the

865
00:42:37,613 --> 00:42:41,013
Speaker 2: text as well. It is ten past two.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

867
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Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

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Speaker 12: Said be.

869
00:42:50,453 --> 00:42:51,453
Speaker 3: Thirteen past two.

870
00:42:51,573 --> 00:42:54,693
Speaker 4: The six's is Barry Crump. Barry Crump rode a highlights,

871
00:42:54,733 --> 00:42:58,213
Speaker 4: not a ranger. You nob Tyler never said that Barry

872
00:42:58,253 --> 00:42:59,813
Speaker 4: Crump drove a ranger.

873
00:42:59,733 --> 00:43:02,053
Speaker 3: Said yute, and a highlus is a yute.

874
00:43:02,093 --> 00:43:04,853
Speaker 4: Everyone knows that Barry Crump drove a highlights. I could

875
00:43:04,893 --> 00:43:08,533
Speaker 4: equally say to you, Texter, Barry Crump didn't ride I

876
00:43:08,773 --> 00:43:11,613
Speaker 4: like sident road a high LUNs. He was driving it,

877
00:43:12,013 --> 00:43:14,453
Speaker 4: although when they went back to the city Scotty was

878
00:43:14,493 --> 00:43:16,733
Speaker 4: driving it wasn't he certainly was. And then Parry was

879
00:43:16,773 --> 00:43:19,893
Speaker 4: the one that was Scared of the Aukland Traffic. A

880
00:43:19,973 --> 00:43:23,053
Speaker 4: great series of airs. Obviously Hunt for the Water People,

881
00:43:23,053 --> 00:43:26,493
Speaker 4: which honors that is back in the theaters. What a

882
00:43:26,533 --> 00:43:27,013
Speaker 4: great movie that.

883
00:43:27,053 --> 00:43:28,853
Speaker 3: Is your ten years Jared.

884
00:43:28,853 --> 00:43:34,093
Speaker 4: Welcome the show, Jared. Oh, Jared, Sorry you're there.

885
00:43:34,173 --> 00:43:36,053
Speaker 11: Jared, yeah, man, there you're going.

886
00:43:36,133 --> 00:43:37,973
Speaker 4: Oh good. Sorry I hadn't turned your phone. I'm sorry

887
00:43:37,973 --> 00:43:38,253
Speaker 4: about that.

888
00:43:38,333 --> 00:43:38,613
Speaker 10: Jared.

889
00:43:38,773 --> 00:43:40,453
Speaker 11: Welcome to radio.

890
00:43:40,573 --> 00:43:42,333
Speaker 4: Hurricane is Immateury are from me.

891
00:43:45,973 --> 00:43:48,573
Speaker 11: Good the show, guys. And by the way, you guys

892
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:50,772
Speaker 11: do do a fine job.

893
00:43:51,013 --> 00:43:53,013
Speaker 3: I think you mate, mate.

894
00:43:54,533 --> 00:43:59,652
Speaker 11: You you're talking my language. Yeah. I owned a hole

895
00:43:59,693 --> 00:44:04,933
Speaker 11: in youth and I use it for work and I

896
00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:07,732
Speaker 11: I absolutely absolutely love it.

897
00:44:07,813 --> 00:44:12,893
Speaker 3: So what do you do for a job. You're trading, so.

898
00:44:13,533 --> 00:44:18,413
Speaker 11: It's very practical to use. And I threw a ut

899
00:44:18,453 --> 00:44:22,853
Speaker 11: to a van. But I have to say I've lost

900
00:44:22,893 --> 00:44:25,772
Speaker 11: count owning a home. How many times of a week

901
00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:27,732
Speaker 11: you're going to go to the dump and get rid

902
00:44:27,733 --> 00:44:28,133
Speaker 11: of stuff?

903
00:44:29,173 --> 00:44:32,093
Speaker 2: They are great dumb vehicles, It's so true.

904
00:44:31,413 --> 00:44:35,213
Speaker 11: Yeah, but for someone.

905
00:44:34,973 --> 00:44:37,373
Speaker 2: Like you, Jared s you've got a genuine use for

906
00:44:37,533 --> 00:44:40,213
Speaker 2: having a ute. But this research would say most of

907
00:44:40,253 --> 00:44:43,373
Speaker 2: the ute drivers out there they've never got, you know,

908
00:44:43,533 --> 00:44:45,573
Speaker 2: never ridden over a bit of dirt, let alone taking

909
00:44:45,573 --> 00:44:47,373
Speaker 2: at full wheel driving? Do you look at other ute

910
00:44:47,453 --> 00:44:49,853
Speaker 2: drivers and just think you've got no business being in that?

911
00:44:52,173 --> 00:44:56,172
Speaker 11: Yeah? Yeah, I look at something. I think they're because

912
00:44:56,173 --> 00:44:59,373
Speaker 11: you see a lot of SUVs and that type on

913
00:44:59,413 --> 00:45:03,813
Speaker 11: the roads these days, and a lot of them are

914
00:45:03,893 --> 00:45:06,413
Speaker 11: very well they're double caves and they've got very little

915
00:45:06,613 --> 00:45:08,573
Speaker 11: room in the back of them. I mean, you're not

916
00:45:08,573 --> 00:45:10,493
Speaker 11: going to get much in the here. I mean mine's

917
00:45:10,173 --> 00:45:13,453
Speaker 11: a single cab and you get a lot of room

918
00:45:13,493 --> 00:45:17,133
Speaker 11: to put get. I do look at something think they're

919
00:45:17,213 --> 00:45:21,013
Speaker 11: not really a true if you know what I mean.

920
00:45:22,733 --> 00:45:25,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you've had three us in your time, Jared,

921
00:45:25,373 --> 00:45:26,293
Speaker 2: is the holding the one for you?

922
00:45:26,333 --> 00:45:27,213
Speaker 3: Has it always been holding?

923
00:45:30,573 --> 00:45:35,573
Speaker 11: Actually I've got that wrong with Andrew, You've on I've

924
00:45:35,573 --> 00:45:39,253
Speaker 11: had no. This is the first holding and the first

925
00:45:39,493 --> 00:45:43,093
Speaker 11: V eight U that I've owned, and oh it doesn't

926
00:45:43,093 --> 00:45:46,093
Speaker 11: get much better than owning of V eight So you.

927
00:45:47,813 --> 00:45:49,573
Speaker 3: Just say that sound alone, mate? So how often would

928
00:45:49,573 --> 00:45:50,773
Speaker 3: you take a full driving.

929
00:45:52,453 --> 00:45:58,133
Speaker 11: Now it's not it's not full drive, yeah it's yeah,

930
00:45:58,293 --> 00:46:01,773
Speaker 11: So yeah that that that option is not there. But

931
00:46:03,013 --> 00:46:04,692
Speaker 11: I get a lot of joy out of it, and

932
00:46:05,733 --> 00:46:07,893
Speaker 11: I'm a proud owner of you. That's for real good.

933
00:46:09,053 --> 00:46:12,133
Speaker 4: Well, we see that simultaneously. The sticks is the best

934
00:46:12,133 --> 00:46:13,733
Speaker 4: thing about a ute, and I agree with this one

935
00:46:13,773 --> 00:46:16,573
Speaker 4: hundred percent, is you can drive over curbs and run

936
00:46:16,613 --> 00:46:19,493
Speaker 4: about curbs, sweet ass, so you can turn around about

937
00:46:19,493 --> 00:46:21,533
Speaker 4: you can just go straight through a roundabout. That's that's great,

938
00:46:21,533 --> 00:46:26,053
Speaker 4: and there's no need to turn and you know, in

939
00:46:26,093 --> 00:46:29,173
Speaker 4: a parking situation, you don't have to drive all the

940
00:46:29,173 --> 00:46:31,732
Speaker 4: way to the exit. You can just go out over

941
00:46:31,773 --> 00:46:35,413
Speaker 4: the top, over the over whatever grassy knol there is there.

942
00:46:35,533 --> 00:46:38,013
Speaker 4: You can you can go over whatever curbs and then

943
00:46:38,253 --> 00:46:41,133
Speaker 4: and then just into the you know the road, how

944
00:46:41,213 --> 00:46:44,693
Speaker 4: you how you feel. But but great for parking forwards

945
00:46:44,733 --> 00:46:47,013
Speaker 4: because you just go up onto the pavement, yep. I

946
00:46:47,053 --> 00:46:49,493
Speaker 4: mean that's that's amazing. And as someone says, you need

947
00:46:49,693 --> 00:46:52,893
Speaker 4: you need a basically to stop bottoming out on all

948
00:46:53,013 --> 00:46:56,373
Speaker 4: the the curbs you're riding over. Well, no, on all

949
00:46:56,413 --> 00:47:01,853
Speaker 4: the speed bumps. Yeah, basically the getting around nowadays you do.

950
00:47:01,973 --> 00:47:03,613
Speaker 4: There's so many speed bumps and you can and a

951
00:47:03,773 --> 00:47:06,013
Speaker 4: ute you can you can just get over them much easier.

952
00:47:06,053 --> 00:47:07,013
Speaker 3: That's a very fair points.

953
00:47:07,333 --> 00:47:09,653
Speaker 2: Taking your calls on one hundred and eighty ten eighty

954
00:47:09,733 --> 00:47:11,933
Speaker 2: plenty of teas coming through on nine to ninety two.

955
00:47:12,293 --> 00:47:20,212
Speaker 4: It's selling muppets and illusion of being a giga chad

956
00:47:20,253 --> 00:47:22,413
Speaker 4: when reality you're a soy boy living in a villa

957
00:47:22,493 --> 00:47:25,213
Speaker 4: in mountain and driving little Ford font Roy to school

958
00:47:25,253 --> 00:47:28,613
Speaker 4: and back bight to school. You want have a good one,

959
00:47:28,693 --> 00:47:31,973
Speaker 4: love your work, kind regards.

960
00:47:31,373 --> 00:47:32,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, bless your mark.

961
00:47:32,653 --> 00:47:34,172
Speaker 4: I mean that's kind of that as part of it.

962
00:47:34,173 --> 00:47:36,013
Speaker 4: That's kind of what I can see what you're saying.

963
00:47:36,573 --> 00:47:39,293
Speaker 4: You are just living and that's very accurate to me

964
00:47:39,333 --> 00:47:41,732
Speaker 4: living in a mountain villa. But it's target you are.

965
00:47:42,013 --> 00:47:44,933
Speaker 4: You asked you when you buy you? You do feel

966
00:47:45,013 --> 00:47:50,453
Speaker 4: kind of you said Tyler, that you're you're more yeah, adventurous.

967
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:53,453
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah that when when actually you are just

968
00:47:53,613 --> 00:47:55,213
Speaker 4: you can you can do it all in a in

969
00:47:55,213 --> 00:47:56,133
Speaker 4: a Suzuki Swift.

970
00:47:56,213 --> 00:47:58,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, Martin, how are your mate?

971
00:47:59,173 --> 00:47:59,813
Speaker 6: I'm good?

972
00:47:59,893 --> 00:48:03,813
Speaker 18: Thanks, Happy Friday to yere, Happy Friday. Hey, look I've

973
00:48:04,053 --> 00:48:06,373
Speaker 18: I bought a you. I've basically I've been driving news

974
00:48:06,413 --> 00:48:08,692
Speaker 18: some vands for forty years for work, and then when

975
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:11,773
Speaker 18: I retired, I was planning on going contracting, so I

976
00:48:11,773 --> 00:48:15,533
Speaker 18: bought a Yuke because it meant Mum would sit in

977
00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:17,133
Speaker 18: the yuke where she wouldn't want to sit in a van.

978
00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:21,933
Speaker 18: But yeah, like nine months later, I haven't really contracting,

979
00:48:21,973 --> 00:48:24,133
Speaker 18: hasn't gone anywhere, so I'm looking at getting rid of

980
00:48:24,173 --> 00:48:26,533
Speaker 18: it because it's just a big blue lump in the

981
00:48:26,613 --> 00:48:30,573
Speaker 18: driveway which drinks diesel like it's going out of fashion.

982
00:48:32,573 --> 00:48:34,933
Speaker 4: How often do you have to take stuff to the dump,

983
00:48:35,013 --> 00:48:35,853
Speaker 4: that's my question for you.

984
00:48:35,973 --> 00:48:43,133
Speaker 18: Martin, to be fair, probably every couple of three months.

985
00:48:43,493 --> 00:48:46,813
Speaker 18: But then if that's the case, you either get one

986
00:48:46,853 --> 00:48:53,013
Speaker 18: of those those skip bags in or wait for the inorganic.

987
00:48:53,653 --> 00:48:57,093
Speaker 18: You know, it's I think I've been to the dump

988
00:48:57,173 --> 00:49:01,413
Speaker 18: twice in it in nine months. One I put stuff

989
00:49:01,413 --> 00:49:02,973
Speaker 18: in the tray, the other one I had a trailer.

990
00:49:03,693 --> 00:49:06,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know for the urban wounders like me

991
00:49:06,773 --> 00:49:11,013
Speaker 4: that are running a ute, well, it feels good when

992
00:49:11,013 --> 00:49:13,533
Speaker 4: you've got a reason to use it when you go out.

993
00:49:14,013 --> 00:49:18,093
Speaker 18: And literally it was the day after I picked it

994
00:49:18,173 --> 00:49:19,853
Speaker 18: up a phone call, Oh you've got a ute. Now

995
00:49:19,893 --> 00:49:21,533
Speaker 18: you can come and help us move with this furniture.

996
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:25,853
Speaker 18: And then it's got a toe bar. You can toe

997
00:49:25,893 --> 00:49:30,733
Speaker 18: this trailer for us. Yes, right, it's the big blue Ranger.

998
00:49:31,413 --> 00:49:37,453
Speaker 18: I love it, but it's you know, now in Diesel's

999
00:49:37,493 --> 00:49:40,333
Speaker 18: nearly four dollars a liter, I'm driving around in a

1000
00:49:40,613 --> 00:49:43,653
Speaker 18: twenty year old Honda Fit. I was so much cheaper

1001
00:49:43,693 --> 00:49:44,093
Speaker 18: a run.

1002
00:49:44,573 --> 00:49:46,493
Speaker 4: See, that's what you need. It's like it's like having

1003
00:49:46,533 --> 00:49:49,093
Speaker 4: a you know, having a tender hanging out the back

1004
00:49:49,093 --> 00:49:51,573
Speaker 4: of your launch. So you've got that, you've got the ute,

1005
00:49:51,573 --> 00:49:53,773
Speaker 4: but you can getting around in the fits well.

1006
00:49:54,413 --> 00:49:57,613
Speaker 18: Amazingly, there's actually more space in the back of the

1007
00:49:57,653 --> 00:49:59,573
Speaker 18: Honda Fit when you put the seats down than there

1008
00:49:59,613 --> 00:50:00,453
Speaker 18: is in the back of a yute.

1009
00:50:01,493 --> 00:50:05,773
Speaker 4: That's what when I first got my ute, I was

1010
00:50:05,893 --> 00:50:10,013
Speaker 4: surprised how much little, how small the what's really as well? Yeah,

1011
00:50:10,853 --> 00:50:12,732
Speaker 4: you know, because because I just imagine it's so big.

1012
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:14,453
Speaker 4: When I was driving it out of the dealership, I

1013
00:50:14,453 --> 00:50:17,133
Speaker 4: was like yes, But then I was like, hey, I'm

1014
00:50:17,133 --> 00:50:18,413
Speaker 4: feeling quite cramped in here.

1015
00:50:19,373 --> 00:50:23,413
Speaker 18: Yeah. Yeah, but the back seats there's there's plenty of

1016
00:50:23,493 --> 00:50:26,453
Speaker 18: room in it, but it's not as comfortable for an adult.

1017
00:50:27,013 --> 00:50:29,133
Speaker 18: I mean, kids are probably okay, but I mean if

1018
00:50:29,133 --> 00:50:31,973
Speaker 18: you've got a sedan or a station Winger or an suv,

1019
00:50:32,373 --> 00:50:33,652
Speaker 18: they are more comfortable in the back.

1020
00:50:34,773 --> 00:50:36,172
Speaker 4: Now do you have it? Do you have a tray,

1021
00:50:36,613 --> 00:50:37,373
Speaker 4: a cover over.

1022
00:50:37,253 --> 00:50:40,732
Speaker 18: Your tray I've got I've got a hard cover which

1023
00:50:40,773 --> 00:50:42,893
Speaker 18: is just a fiber last one, Yeah, which kind of

1024
00:50:42,933 --> 00:50:44,172
Speaker 18: restricts the space a bit.

1025
00:50:44,293 --> 00:50:47,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's quite small with it on. And also they

1026
00:50:47,453 --> 00:50:49,973
Speaker 4: need to work out the technology for for getting a

1027
00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:51,493
Speaker 4: tray on and off so it can be done by

1028
00:50:51,493 --> 00:50:53,333
Speaker 4: one person. I was doing it the other day and

1029
00:50:53,373 --> 00:50:55,292
Speaker 4: I was in a turtle like position in the back,

1030
00:50:55,773 --> 00:50:57,973
Speaker 4: pulling a little nuts out and balancing it on my

1031
00:50:58,013 --> 00:51:00,812
Speaker 4: feet and hands to get it off the off the back.

1032
00:51:00,853 --> 00:51:02,933
Speaker 4: There needs to be there needs to be am. I

1033
00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:04,533
Speaker 4: maybe I'm missing out on some technology.

1034
00:51:04,573 --> 00:51:09,333
Speaker 18: Here's maybe you need a large canopy with the big

1035
00:51:09,373 --> 00:51:10,133
Speaker 18: side doors on it.

1036
00:51:10,533 --> 00:51:12,773
Speaker 4: I would love that. Now you're talking. Now you've got

1037
00:51:12,773 --> 00:51:13,173
Speaker 4: some space.

1038
00:51:13,293 --> 00:51:15,373
Speaker 18: Yeah, So I was looking at doing that, but then

1039
00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:19,773
Speaker 18: the cost of those is prohibitive. So like, I'm probably

1040
00:51:19,973 --> 00:51:23,533
Speaker 18: gonna get rid of the Ranger and get a a

1041
00:51:23,613 --> 00:51:27,013
Speaker 18: mid sized suv because it's just it'll do everything I need.

1042
00:51:27,413 --> 00:51:29,293
Speaker 4: Are you storing a lot of stuff in the back

1043
00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:30,013
Speaker 4: of your.

1044
00:51:29,973 --> 00:51:31,053
Speaker 12: Ut and not the towel?

1045
00:51:31,293 --> 00:51:32,213
Speaker 6: No? I was.

1046
00:51:32,893 --> 00:51:34,293
Speaker 4: That's a great way to burnel.

1047
00:51:35,333 --> 00:51:37,133
Speaker 18: There was a little cooker so you can go out

1048
00:51:37,133 --> 00:51:38,053
Speaker 18: and have a picnic or.

1049
00:51:38,453 --> 00:51:41,053
Speaker 3: It's the dream mad that's what you want to get.

1050
00:51:41,053 --> 00:51:43,212
Speaker 18: But you can do that in the station wagon or

1051
00:51:43,293 --> 00:51:44,493
Speaker 18: in the back of be honder Foot.

1052
00:51:45,933 --> 00:51:48,453
Speaker 4: What about what we were talking about before, in terms

1053
00:51:48,533 --> 00:51:52,253
Speaker 4: of heading into parks, front ways and going up on

1054
00:51:52,293 --> 00:51:53,692
Speaker 4: the curb with no problems at all.

1055
00:51:53,893 --> 00:51:56,172
Speaker 18: Yeah, now that's that's no. I mean, you've got these

1056
00:51:56,293 --> 00:51:59,813
Speaker 18: roundabouts are putting anywhere. They're like a two inch concrete

1057
00:52:00,133 --> 00:52:03,772
Speaker 18: web in the middle. You just try straight over the problem, don't.

1058
00:52:04,173 --> 00:52:05,773
Speaker 4: You don't have to you don't have to worry the

1059
00:52:05,813 --> 00:52:07,373
Speaker 4: steering wheel. You're just straight through.

1060
00:52:07,493 --> 00:52:09,732
Speaker 18: Heading out into the To be fair, I've only got

1061
00:52:09,733 --> 00:52:12,733
Speaker 18: a two wheel drive, yeah, which is more economical than

1062
00:52:12,733 --> 00:52:16,813
Speaker 18: the four wheel drive, but it's it's got a limited

1063
00:52:16,853 --> 00:52:19,212
Speaker 18: slip diff and most of the places I go, I'm

1064
00:52:19,253 --> 00:52:22,413
Speaker 18: not going to be mud plugging. So at most of

1065
00:52:22,453 --> 00:52:24,933
Speaker 18: the gravel road, maybe a grassy paddock and that'll be it.

1066
00:52:25,373 --> 00:52:28,493
Speaker 4: So what was your rationale forgetting that in the first place, Martin,

1067
00:52:28,533 --> 00:52:30,133
Speaker 4: Because you haven't had it long and you're already looking

1068
00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:31,413
Speaker 4: around going, oh, I don't need this thing.

1069
00:52:31,933 --> 00:52:34,933
Speaker 18: Well, no, I was the plan when I retired. I

1070
00:52:35,013 --> 00:52:38,053
Speaker 18: was going to go and I'm an engineer. I was

1071
00:52:38,093 --> 00:52:39,093
Speaker 18: going to go do some contract.

1072
00:52:39,133 --> 00:52:41,333
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, yes, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that

1073
00:52:41,373 --> 00:52:41,772
Speaker 4: makes sense.

1074
00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:45,693
Speaker 18: That sort of fell over, and it's just been it's

1075
00:52:45,733 --> 00:52:50,173
Speaker 18: been very convenient for moving things and going on holiday.

1076
00:52:50,453 --> 00:52:55,333
Speaker 18: Or it's a great road trip vehicle. Yeah, and it's

1077
00:52:55,373 --> 00:52:57,973
Speaker 18: surprising on a road trip, surprisingly economical, but it's when

1078
00:52:57,973 --> 00:53:02,533
Speaker 18: it's round town a three point two liter five cylinder

1079
00:53:03,413 --> 00:53:05,733
Speaker 18: automatic is quite thirsty.

1080
00:53:06,413 --> 00:53:09,573
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm trying to widget into a tiny park at

1081
00:53:09,573 --> 00:53:12,133
Speaker 4: the supermarket with four thousand other people around.

1082
00:53:12,733 --> 00:53:14,693
Speaker 18: I'm comfortable to walk from the far side of the

1083
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:19,493
Speaker 18: car park spot that's easy and just walk there.

1084
00:53:20,133 --> 00:53:22,653
Speaker 4: I ordered to talk about this. There's two types of

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00:53:22,653 --> 00:53:24,453
Speaker 4: people in the world, right yep. I was reading about

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00:53:24,493 --> 00:53:26,933
Speaker 4: this the other day. People that will drive around forever

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00:53:27,013 --> 00:53:28,813
Speaker 4: at a car park trying to find a park that's

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00:53:28,853 --> 00:53:30,693
Speaker 4: right in front of where they want to be, or

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00:53:30,733 --> 00:53:33,093
Speaker 4: people that and these are the same people that just

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00:53:33,253 --> 00:53:36,413
Speaker 4: take a convenient park and walk one hundred meters yep,

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Speaker 4: or two hundred meters or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I read the same thing, and I think it made

1093
00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:43,733
Speaker 2: a fair argument that it determines who wants the shortcuts

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00:53:43,733 --> 00:53:46,293
Speaker 2: in life and who's okay to have a little bit

1095
00:53:46,293 --> 00:53:47,893
Speaker 2: of work in their life that if you're one of

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00:53:47,893 --> 00:53:50,573
Speaker 2: those people that takes the far car park, you're someone

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00:53:50,613 --> 00:53:52,893
Speaker 2: who doesn't mind putting in a bit of graft in

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00:53:52,933 --> 00:53:54,573
Speaker 2: your life. You know, you do what you need to

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00:53:54,613 --> 00:53:57,373
Speaker 2: do to make things as simple as possible versus the

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00:53:57,413 --> 00:53:59,813
Speaker 2: ones that want the shortcut just driving around and round.

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00:54:00,053 --> 00:54:02,453
Speaker 4: But see right, I can't eve give my head around

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00:54:02,453 --> 00:54:04,773
Speaker 4: that because the driving around and around is my worst nightmare.

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00:54:04,973 --> 00:54:10,133
Speaker 4: I'd rather park two kilometers away than just circle circle

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00:54:10,173 --> 00:54:12,493
Speaker 4: of car park looking for a park. Yeah, you know,

1105
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:16,692
Speaker 4: humiliating yourself like a seagull waiting for someone to pull out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said mate.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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00:54:18,533 --> 00:54:20,573
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1109
00:54:20,613 --> 00:54:21,613
Speaker 3: It's twenty four past.

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00:54:21,413 --> 00:54:27,013
Speaker 12: Two, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

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00:54:27,053 --> 00:54:30,293
Speaker 1: Afternoons call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty on youth

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00:54:30,373 --> 00:54:32,013
Speaker 1: Talk ZB very good afternoons.

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00:54:32,013 --> 00:54:35,413
Speaker 2: Youre it's twenty seven past two and we're talking about youts.

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00:54:35,493 --> 00:54:37,653
Speaker 2: Do you use your ute for all that it's cutted

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00:54:37,653 --> 00:54:39,973
Speaker 2: out to do? And even if you use it just

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00:54:39,973 --> 00:54:41,493
Speaker 2: to go down to the shops, is there anything wrong

1117
00:54:41,493 --> 00:54:43,453
Speaker 2: with that? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Mike's a

1118
00:54:43,453 --> 00:54:44,773
Speaker 2: good man to chat to get a Mike.

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Speaker 11: Matte.

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Speaker 8: How did it go?

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Speaker 3: Very good? Tell us your story.

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00:54:50,173 --> 00:54:53,973
Speaker 8: I was working at cable Price Toyota in Newmarket in

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00:54:54,013 --> 00:54:58,333
Speaker 8: the early eighties, and I've read the very Crumb books,

1124
00:54:58,413 --> 00:55:00,013
Speaker 8: and in fact, you used to live around the corner

1125
00:55:00,013 --> 00:55:03,053
Speaker 8: from me in Parnell, so I knew what he looked

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00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:06,413
Speaker 8: like in person. Anyway, he walked into the showroom and

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00:55:06,733 --> 00:55:08,293
Speaker 8: I walked up to him and said, you know how

1128
00:55:08,413 --> 00:55:11,333
Speaker 8: the going, mate, And he said, oh, pretty good? And

1129
00:55:11,373 --> 00:55:12,813
Speaker 8: I said what do you after he said, oh, I

1130
00:55:12,853 --> 00:55:14,533
Speaker 8: want to know how I can get a free yut

1131
00:55:15,533 --> 00:55:17,373
Speaker 8: and I said what.

1132
00:55:17,733 --> 00:55:18,652
Speaker 6: I said, what do you mean?

1133
00:55:18,693 --> 00:55:20,933
Speaker 8: And he said, I've been down to this son down

1134
00:55:20,973 --> 00:55:23,733
Speaker 8: the road and they didn't want to help me because

1135
00:55:23,773 --> 00:55:26,212
Speaker 8: they didn't recognize someone gave him the bum so rash.

1136
00:55:26,253 --> 00:55:28,573
Speaker 8: He went him at Subishi and he didn't have much

1137
00:55:28,613 --> 00:55:30,373
Speaker 8: luck with him, and were the next cab on the

1138
00:55:30,453 --> 00:55:32,813
Speaker 8: rare on the thing and I said, I said, mate,

1139
00:55:32,853 --> 00:55:35,172
Speaker 8: don't you go anywhere. I said, boy, have I got

1140
00:55:35,213 --> 00:55:38,333
Speaker 8: a deal for you? And he said. I went upstairs

1141
00:55:38,373 --> 00:55:40,093
Speaker 8: and saw the boss, the big cheese, and I said,

1142
00:55:40,093 --> 00:55:42,693
Speaker 8: I got very crumbed downstairs and he was like who's

1143
00:55:42,733 --> 00:55:44,573
Speaker 8: he and all the rest of it these days. We

1144
00:55:44,653 --> 00:55:46,853
Speaker 8: were in there, I said, mate, don't let this one

1145
00:55:46,933 --> 00:55:49,013
Speaker 8: go by. I believe me, I said. He said, well

1146
00:55:49,013 --> 00:55:51,373
Speaker 8: wheeling then, so I bought him up STIs into the

1147
00:55:51,613 --> 00:55:54,173
Speaker 8: the big room and he had a chat with the

1148
00:55:54,213 --> 00:55:56,613
Speaker 8: guy called Gary at the time, who was the manager,

1149
00:55:57,093 --> 00:55:59,133
Speaker 8: and he said, well, he didn't say to know much

1150
00:55:59,173 --> 00:56:01,173
Speaker 8: about it. He doesn't bring to out in New Zealand

1151
00:56:01,213 --> 00:56:03,453
Speaker 8: and see what they think. And when toy out in

1152
00:56:03,493 --> 00:56:07,093
Speaker 8: New Zealand pairs that he was wanting a yucht toyota yt,

1153
00:56:07,933 --> 00:56:09,773
Speaker 8: I thought, when there's a deal here, and sort of

1154
00:56:09,813 --> 00:56:13,773
Speaker 8: that going onward, Barry drove toyotas.

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00:56:13,173 --> 00:56:15,853
Speaker 4: You started the whole thing, Mike, you started the whole

1156
00:56:16,293 --> 00:56:19,453
Speaker 4: iconnor with Barry crump hiluxe thing.

1157
00:56:20,093 --> 00:56:24,093
Speaker 8: Because without that he would have used advertising Listen would

1158
00:56:24,093 --> 00:56:26,573
Speaker 8: have grabbed them or someone else did. But I was

1159
00:56:26,573 --> 00:56:29,653
Speaker 8: the one in the sharon at the time that I

1160
00:56:29,813 --> 00:56:32,053
Speaker 8: was not read all his box. And when I saw

1161
00:56:32,093 --> 00:56:34,133
Speaker 8: him in Purse are you? He lived around the corner,

1162
00:56:34,173 --> 00:56:37,933
Speaker 8: so he was a grumpy old prick. Heflf all the

1163
00:56:37,933 --> 00:56:39,853
Speaker 8: time and show what to do and stuff.

1164
00:56:40,533 --> 00:56:42,853
Speaker 4: What kind of house does Barry Crump living in Parnew.

1165
00:56:42,933 --> 00:56:44,973
Speaker 4: That's not That's not how you imagined Barry Crumb.

1166
00:56:45,893 --> 00:56:47,893
Speaker 8: That was a normal house in the middle of Parnell,

1167
00:56:48,053 --> 00:56:49,973
Speaker 8: you know. I mean that the house was here now

1168
00:56:50,053 --> 00:56:52,413
Speaker 8: do with a three million, but it was in those days.

1169
00:56:52,413 --> 00:56:54,853
Speaker 8: They were at Marshalls there ready grand but he lived

1170
00:56:54,893 --> 00:56:56,813
Speaker 8: there find the big fins. And so when he walked in,

1171
00:56:57,333 --> 00:56:58,773
Speaker 8: you know, he said, I know, no one wants to

1172
00:56:58,813 --> 00:57:00,893
Speaker 8: talk with someone. They looked at the disappointment. I said,

1173
00:57:00,893 --> 00:57:03,053
Speaker 8: look mate, He said, how do I get a free

1174
00:57:03,773 --> 00:57:05,653
Speaker 8: And I said, it's just hang on a minute. I

1175
00:57:05,693 --> 00:57:07,853
Speaker 8: think you're on a winner here. And I had to

1176
00:57:07,853 --> 00:57:10,652
Speaker 8: talk them often to speaking to Twitter because he didn't

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00:57:10,693 --> 00:57:12,933
Speaker 8: sort of know much about us. And the next thing,

1178
00:57:12,973 --> 00:57:15,133
Speaker 8: you know, within twenty four hours it was all on.

1179
00:57:17,093 --> 00:57:19,013
Speaker 4: That is amazing, Mike, And if you think about it,

1180
00:57:19,053 --> 00:57:20,933
Speaker 4: so you know, those ads went for a long time.

1181
00:57:20,973 --> 00:57:23,453
Speaker 4: They had the tenth anniversary ad when they when they

1182
00:57:23,813 --> 00:57:26,133
Speaker 4: sang that song together the two of them. What was

1183
00:57:26,133 --> 00:57:26,893
Speaker 4: the other guy's name?

1184
00:57:26,973 --> 00:57:27,293
Speaker 6: Was that?

1185
00:57:28,493 --> 00:57:28,693
Speaker 10: Dick?

1186
00:57:29,333 --> 00:57:32,653
Speaker 4: Am I getting that name right? No, I'll get the

1187
00:57:32,653 --> 00:57:35,133
Speaker 4: bottom of the other guy. That's Barry Crump in the highlights.

1188
00:57:38,253 --> 00:57:43,853
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, but I was fascinating outstarted, and so he

1189
00:57:43,973 --> 00:57:47,813
Speaker 19: could have arguably gone down the road and maybe listened enough,

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00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:52,093
Speaker 19: you know whatever whatever to figure out what But what.

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00:57:52,013 --> 00:57:55,213
Speaker 4: I'm saying, what I'm saying, Mike, is that that then

1192
00:57:55,533 --> 00:57:58,853
Speaker 4: was a big part of the Hunt for the Wader

1193
00:57:58,893 --> 00:58:02,173
Speaker 4: People movie, which is based on the Barry camp book

1194
00:58:03,093 --> 00:58:05,573
Speaker 4: and which is just out in the theaters now. So

1195
00:58:05,573 --> 00:58:07,853
Speaker 4: so it's been it's been put back out after ten years,

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00:58:07,853 --> 00:58:09,933
Speaker 4: that's been released because it's such a great movie and

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00:58:09,973 --> 00:58:13,973
Speaker 4: such success. So you've had a great You've had a

1198
00:58:14,053 --> 00:58:17,213
Speaker 4: huge influence on New Zealand culture with your your suggesting

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Speaker 4: that they give Barry cap Crumper a ute. So buddy

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00:58:19,453 --> 00:58:22,253
Speaker 4: got on you, Mike. That's impressive stuff. What a story.

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Speaker 4: Pleasure to talk to you.

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00:58:23,173 --> 00:58:26,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1203
00:58:26,213 --> 00:58:29,293
Speaker 2: number to call. We're talking newts. If you've got one,

1204
00:58:29,533 --> 00:58:31,853
Speaker 2: what you love it? Nine to nine tools of text

1205
00:58:31,893 --> 00:58:33,853
Speaker 2: as well, headlines with Wendy coming up.

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Speaker 15: number one taxi app. Download your Ride today. Auckland's mayor

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Speaker 15: There's a red strong wind warning for Coramandel and Great

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Speaker 15: Barrier Island from five am Sunday. Councils across the North

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Speaker 15: Island are warning people to be prepared for flooding and

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Speaker 15: power outages for mess US Security advisor John Bolton says

1213
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Speaker 15: he still doesn't know what the US president's objectives are

1214
00:59:05,333 --> 00:59:08,613
Speaker 15: in Iran. Bolton says if Trump wanted change, he could

1215
00:59:08,653 --> 00:59:12,053
Speaker 15: have helped the regime's opponents by giving them assistance, money

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00:59:12,093 --> 00:59:16,053
Speaker 15: and weapons to stand up to the nation's leadership. Australia

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00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:19,173
Speaker 15: and Singapore are hoping for a deal on fuel Australian

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Speaker 15: Prime Minister Anthony Alberesi's and Singapore meeting his counterpart, Lawrence Wong,

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Speaker 15: a trip originally scheduled for later this year. It's estimated

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Speaker 15: almost thirteen percent of the country's b colonies were lost

1221
00:59:31,493 --> 00:59:36,493
Speaker 15: last winter. The Bioeconomy Science Institute survey estimates sixty three

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Speaker 15: thousand colonies have gone, with FAROA might behind most of

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Speaker 15: the losses. What key We Jamie Diamond's warning means for

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Speaker 15: key We Saver investors find out more at ends at

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Speaker 15: Herald Premium.

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00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:50,613
Speaker 12: Now back to Matton Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy.

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00:59:51,413 --> 00:59:54,213
Speaker 2: We're talking about a new research that shows most ute

1229
00:59:54,253 --> 00:59:56,773
Speaker 2: drivers in New Zealand just use it for short trips

1230
00:59:56,813 --> 00:59:59,133
Speaker 2: like shopping, social outings or school dropoffs.

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00:59:59,413 --> 01:00:02,333
Speaker 4: The sextus says Matt. The other guy was Scotty. Yeah,

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01:00:02,333 --> 01:00:05,493
Speaker 4: I knew it was Scotty, but Lloyd Scott was the actor. Yes,

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01:00:05,613 --> 01:00:08,133
Speaker 4: thank you David for sending seeing that through. So who

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01:00:08,253 --> 01:00:10,413
Speaker 4: was Dick Weir then, because I thought that the person

1235
01:00:10,453 --> 01:00:14,493
Speaker 4: playing Scottie was Dick Weir. And Dick Were was sort

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01:00:14,493 --> 01:00:17,093
Speaker 4: of around at the same time a broadcaster in New Zealand,

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01:00:17,213 --> 01:00:20,413
Speaker 4: and I believe Dick Were is the father of Barnaby

1238
01:00:20,453 --> 01:00:23,453
Speaker 4: Ware from the band The Black Seeds. But Lloyd Scott

1239
01:00:23,493 --> 01:00:26,573
Speaker 4: was also a broadcaster on children's television, right, and then

1240
01:00:26,613 --> 01:00:28,773
Speaker 4: he was hired to do these ads with Barry Crump

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01:00:28,773 --> 01:00:29,893
Speaker 4: in the Highlight.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, yeah, Dickwere was definitely in the mix

1243
01:00:32,053 --> 01:00:32,533
Speaker 2: somewhere there.

1244
01:00:32,733 --> 01:00:35,693
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, Dick We wasn't no Dick We

1245
01:00:35,813 --> 01:00:37,653
Speaker 4: wasn't in the car. It was Lloyd Scott. Oh, okay,

1246
01:00:37,693 --> 01:00:39,973
Speaker 4: Dick where was nowhere near the highlight? Okay, he even

1247
01:00:40,013 --> 01:00:41,173
Speaker 4: saw highlights in his whole life.

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01:00:41,213 --> 01:00:41,853
Speaker 3: Okay, good.

1249
01:00:42,573 --> 01:00:46,013
Speaker 4: Was Lloyd Scott playing Scotty? Of course, Lloyd Scott Scotty. Yeap,

1250
01:00:46,253 --> 01:00:49,053
Speaker 4: that makes sense, makes a lot of sense. It wasn't Dickie.

1251
01:00:49,613 --> 01:00:50,973
Speaker 4: It was Dick Weir or weary.

1252
01:00:51,973 --> 01:00:54,053
Speaker 2: God bless the text machine for sorting that out. Thank

1253
01:00:54,053 --> 01:00:56,413
Speaker 2: you very much. We're getting a heap of texts coming

1254
01:00:56,453 --> 01:01:00,133
Speaker 2: through on this one. But let's go to Jeff mates.

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Speaker 20: I Tyler Matte I must. I've had a couple of highlightses.

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01:01:04,853 --> 01:01:07,573
Speaker 20: I've got a fully not the latest model, but one

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01:01:07,653 --> 01:01:10,533
Speaker 20: coming up or what will be a year old soon,

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Speaker 20: and I've used it. I've been a trail motorbike trail

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01:01:14,253 --> 01:01:18,293
Speaker 20: bike rider, and I've put a frame a carry stand

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01:01:18,373 --> 01:01:20,453
Speaker 20: across the back so I don't have towe a trailer

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01:01:20,493 --> 01:01:24,333
Speaker 20: on it. So I've been to probably fifty trail bike

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01:01:24,453 --> 01:01:28,333
Speaker 20: rides all over the country just at every weekend. I

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01:01:28,413 --> 01:01:30,733
Speaker 20: found one and off to it. So it says all

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01:01:30,733 --> 01:01:33,613
Speaker 20: the fuel not having to tow a trailer. And I've

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01:01:33,653 --> 01:01:35,253
Speaker 20: got a hard deck on it so i can lock

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01:01:35,293 --> 01:01:38,253
Speaker 20: all my gear, put on my fuel and tools in

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Speaker 20: the back. It's been awesome.

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Speaker 3: And what typ of highlights is a Jeff.

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Speaker 20: It's just a four before. Yeah, just been to two

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Speaker 20: point eight moder It's awesome, good visibility things, but higher up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, Jeff, Yeah, fair enough too.

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Speaker 4: So this pushes back a little bit on this this

1273
01:01:56,333 --> 01:01:59,373
Speaker 4: listeners texts here everyone hates you drivers. Just go to

1274
01:01:59,573 --> 01:02:03,453
Speaker 4: r Auckland or our New Zealand on Reddit. We all

1275
01:02:03,453 --> 01:02:05,613
Speaker 4: get on there and complain about how ranger drivers are

1276
01:02:05,613 --> 01:02:07,893
Speaker 4: selfish park is. So if you get a ute, just

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01:02:07,933 --> 01:02:10,653
Speaker 4: know we'lllaughing at you. Well, just so you know, I'm

1278
01:02:10,733 --> 01:02:13,213
Speaker 4: laughing at you for being on our Auckland and our

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01:02:13,293 --> 01:02:15,613
Speaker 4: New Zealand on Reddit complaining about how people.

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Speaker 3: Part Oh man, that that subreddit is the biggest bunch

1281
01:02:20,013 --> 01:02:21,133
Speaker 3: of winges I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I used to really like that subreddit. That are New

1283
01:02:23,533 --> 01:02:25,693
Speaker 2: Zealand and My god, if you want to be depressed

1284
01:02:25,733 --> 01:02:28,533
Speaker 2: about life in New Zealand, go and spend ten minutes

1285
01:02:28,573 --> 01:02:32,013
Speaker 2: on that subreddit. It is the most miserable and miserable time.

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Speaker 4: One point read it as a social media site, was

1287
01:02:34,493 --> 01:02:38,453
Speaker 4: at the forefront of intelligent conversation, and now it is

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01:02:39,373 --> 01:02:43,493
Speaker 4: worse than the letters to the TV Guide in the

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01:02:43,533 --> 01:02:47,013
Speaker 4: nineteen nineties. Yeah, it is the you know when every

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01:02:47,093 --> 01:02:50,453
Speaker 4: letter used to be winding about the ads. Yep, I

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01:02:50,613 --> 01:02:53,533
Speaker 4: thank you for putting on a TV show between the ads.

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01:02:53,813 --> 01:02:57,613
Speaker 4: You know that kind of complaint for someone to text

1293
01:02:57,653 --> 01:03:00,453
Speaker 4: in and show off that they're on our New Zealand

1294
01:03:00,533 --> 01:03:06,413
Speaker 4: or our Auckland complaining about selfish parking and saying so

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01:03:06,573 --> 01:03:08,133
Speaker 4: if you get in a ute, just know we're laughing

1296
01:03:08,133 --> 01:03:11,013
Speaker 4: at you. You need to look in.

1297
01:03:10,933 --> 01:03:13,893
Speaker 3: The mirror, go and touch the grass just outside.

1298
01:03:14,013 --> 01:03:17,253
Speaker 4: Ask yourself who who is worthy of laughing at the

1299
01:03:17,253 --> 01:03:21,573
Speaker 4: people that are driving around utes. Probably trades, probably doing

1300
01:03:21,573 --> 01:03:24,893
Speaker 4: great business and keeping the economy going. You know, the

1301
01:03:25,013 --> 01:03:28,613
Speaker 4: people that actually do the hard work that physically make

1302
01:03:28,733 --> 01:03:34,253
Speaker 4: things continue in our society, you know, and you're showing

1303
01:03:34,253 --> 01:03:36,653
Speaker 4: off that you sit on a Reddit sub edit and

1304
01:03:36,733 --> 01:03:37,533
Speaker 4: judge them.

1305
01:03:38,973 --> 01:03:40,373
Speaker 3: Well done, good good work.

1306
01:03:40,493 --> 01:03:42,653
Speaker 4: This is Have you got a taser? If you've got

1307
01:03:42,693 --> 01:03:44,733
Speaker 4: If that text has got a taser at home, could

1308
01:03:44,773 --> 01:03:45,893
Speaker 4: you please turn it on yourself?

1309
01:03:47,133 --> 01:03:52,373
Speaker 3: Keep those things coming through nine nine two kid a Roger, Yes.

1310
01:03:52,213 --> 01:03:52,773
Speaker 21: Good afternoon.

1311
01:03:53,333 --> 01:03:54,093
Speaker 3: You love you yet.

1312
01:03:55,453 --> 01:03:57,973
Speaker 21: Yes, I've had I think when I was apprentice back

1313
01:03:57,973 --> 01:04:00,613
Speaker 21: of the seventies, my first hue was a mainline UT.

1314
01:04:01,373 --> 01:04:03,573
Speaker 21: I had that for about made to nine years, and

1315
01:04:03,613 --> 01:04:06,853
Speaker 21: then we got golden retrievers, which we were show doves

1316
01:04:06,853 --> 01:04:09,653
Speaker 21: and I beat you dog. So I used the utes

1317
01:04:09,693 --> 01:04:14,173
Speaker 21: for that. Then I moved on to boating, and I've

1318
01:04:14,213 --> 01:04:17,613
Speaker 21: had a ute right through till now. I've had different boats.

1319
01:04:18,293 --> 01:04:20,573
Speaker 21: Plus also we tow the boat up the TOWERFOA to

1320
01:04:20,613 --> 01:04:22,373
Speaker 21: the batch up there, so there was the kids, and

1321
01:04:22,693 --> 01:04:24,173
Speaker 21: you know, the ute was full of stuff. The boat

1322
01:04:24,213 --> 01:04:26,213
Speaker 21: was full of stuff. We did that for twenty odd years.

1323
01:04:27,173 --> 01:04:29,573
Speaker 21: And the uses I've got now we're still picking up

1324
01:04:29,573 --> 01:04:31,653
Speaker 21: stuff in the ute. I'm towing the boat all over

1325
01:04:31,653 --> 01:04:35,773
Speaker 21: the place. So I've had them for yeah, basically right

1326
01:04:35,813 --> 01:04:38,093
Speaker 21: through from seventies when I was an apprentice to where

1327
01:04:38,093 --> 01:04:38,573
Speaker 21: I am now.

1328
01:04:39,653 --> 01:04:42,093
Speaker 2: Do you find Yeah, Yeah, there was a caller before

1329
01:04:42,133 --> 01:04:43,733
Speaker 2: he mentioned he was looking to get rid of his

1330
01:04:43,893 --> 01:04:45,613
Speaker 2: ute because part of the problem was when you have

1331
01:04:45,693 --> 01:04:47,853
Speaker 2: a ute and your friends don't, you're kind of called

1332
01:04:47,933 --> 01:04:50,693
Speaker 2: upon to help out moving and taking stuff to the

1333
01:04:50,733 --> 01:04:52,373
Speaker 2: dump and all that sort of plover. It's like being

1334
01:04:52,373 --> 01:04:54,573
Speaker 2: the only person having a trailer. You never want to

1335
01:04:54,613 --> 01:04:55,053
Speaker 2: be that guy.

1336
01:04:55,093 --> 01:04:57,373
Speaker 4: Get better friends, get friends with you.

1337
01:04:57,493 --> 01:05:00,173
Speaker 21: Yeah, you friends didn't really have Yeah, I didn't really

1338
01:05:00,253 --> 01:05:02,533
Speaker 21: have too many of those. Mostly my mates or had utes.

1339
01:05:02,573 --> 01:05:05,813
Speaker 21: As well. Occasionally a sister might bring up was a

1340
01:05:05,813 --> 01:05:08,533
Speaker 21: family member might want to move a couch or something,

1341
01:05:08,893 --> 01:05:11,853
Speaker 21: but again that really never happened because I say, it

1342
01:05:11,933 --> 01:05:14,373
Speaker 21: was always hoped up to the boat. So you know,

1343
01:05:14,413 --> 01:05:16,773
Speaker 21: we're going fishing jinery all the time. But I've had

1344
01:05:16,813 --> 01:05:21,813
Speaker 21: like say, full drives, been hunting on them, and I

1345
01:05:21,813 --> 01:05:25,813
Speaker 21: think I've got amrock now and that's my second car,

1346
01:05:26,133 --> 01:05:28,813
Speaker 21: and you just packed up the driveway waiting for the

1347
01:05:28,813 --> 01:05:30,333
Speaker 21: weather the clear so we can tow the boat down

1348
01:05:30,333 --> 01:05:30,893
Speaker 21: and go fishing.

1349
01:05:31,013 --> 01:05:33,093
Speaker 4: See, but you're you're the exact opposite of what they're

1350
01:05:33,093 --> 01:05:35,093
Speaker 4: talking about in this article. You've got a ute because

1351
01:05:35,093 --> 01:05:36,893
Speaker 4: you need a ute, and you use it for all

1352
01:05:36,893 --> 01:05:39,493
Speaker 4: the things that you need to ute for. So you're

1353
01:05:39,973 --> 01:05:43,053
Speaker 4: you're a ute man. There's a utility for you, and

1354
01:05:43,093 --> 01:05:46,453
Speaker 4: you're using it as suck as opposed to these what's

1355
01:05:46,533 --> 01:05:47,093
Speaker 4: the stat here?

1356
01:05:47,133 --> 01:05:50,693
Speaker 2: That that the stat was that around two thirds of

1357
01:05:50,813 --> 01:05:52,493
Speaker 2: ute trips and maiden cities.

1358
01:05:52,693 --> 01:05:54,853
Speaker 4: But that that doesn't prove anything. That stack got. I

1359
01:05:54,893 --> 01:05:57,213
Speaker 4: hate stats that doesn't prove.

1360
01:05:57,413 --> 01:06:01,173
Speaker 21: I see people in the full drive, you know, the

1361
01:06:01,173 --> 01:06:04,373
Speaker 21: big range drovers and stuff like that, and there's just

1362
01:06:04,733 --> 01:06:06,853
Speaker 21: bum driving around it and probably dropping the kids off,

1363
01:06:07,093 --> 01:06:09,853
Speaker 21: and that's a huge, great, big vehicle which you could

1364
01:06:09,893 --> 01:06:12,853
Speaker 21: drive around a little old Suzuki or something, so that

1365
01:06:12,933 --> 01:06:15,053
Speaker 21: doesn't wash. And again I say, most of mates I've

1366
01:06:15,053 --> 01:06:17,973
Speaker 21: got that have use they're either trade's or they've got

1367
01:06:17,973 --> 01:06:21,373
Speaker 21: boats or jet skis or whatever, so there is a

1368
01:06:21,413 --> 01:06:23,293
Speaker 21: reason for it. They don't just drive around because it's

1369
01:06:23,293 --> 01:06:25,653
Speaker 21: a nice place you put on your roger.

1370
01:06:25,693 --> 01:06:28,733
Speaker 4: Defending yout drivers, some people are higher than zero. Number

1371
01:06:28,733 --> 01:06:32,133
Speaker 4: of people want a huge vehicle because it makes them

1372
01:06:32,133 --> 01:06:35,893
Speaker 4: look skinny. Yep, in comparison makes them look small.

1373
01:06:36,293 --> 01:06:36,973
Speaker 3: Very true.

1374
01:06:37,373 --> 01:06:39,293
Speaker 2: Right on one hundred and eighty to eighty is the

1375
01:06:39,413 --> 01:06:41,693
Speaker 2: number to call. We're talking about ut drivers. If you've

1376
01:06:41,693 --> 01:06:44,213
Speaker 2: got a ute that you only use in the city,

1377
01:06:44,413 --> 01:06:46,693
Speaker 2: can you hear your story? Does it make any difference

1378
01:06:46,693 --> 01:06:48,533
Speaker 2: to you if you haven't used it off road?

1379
01:06:48,613 --> 01:06:52,173
Speaker 4: The sexes any idea when Ford Rangers will start having

1380
01:06:52,173 --> 01:06:53,373
Speaker 4: indicators install.

1381
01:06:53,173 --> 01:06:54,453
Speaker 3: I don't think that's in the strategy.

1382
01:06:55,573 --> 01:06:55,933
Speaker 4: No need.

1383
01:06:56,133 --> 01:06:57,373
Speaker 3: It's nineteen to three.

1384
01:06:57,973 --> 01:07:00,413
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1385
01:07:00,453 --> 01:07:04,373
Speaker 1: along the way. Mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons us talks.

1386
01:07:04,373 --> 01:07:06,093
Speaker 3: They'd be afternoon.

1387
01:07:06,093 --> 01:07:08,053
Speaker 2: It is sixteen to three, so we're talking about this

1388
01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:11,933
Speaker 2: new research questioning how much New Zealanders really need their utes.

1389
01:07:12,053 --> 01:07:14,493
Speaker 3: If you've got one, why do you have one? I

1390
01:07:14,573 --> 01:07:16,253
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

1391
01:07:16,533 --> 01:07:18,773
Speaker 4: I'm a dairy farmer. I laugh at townees with utes.

1392
01:07:18,813 --> 01:07:21,653
Speaker 4: The only thing more wounding is a towny with a

1393
01:07:21,653 --> 01:07:25,653
Speaker 4: big American You those rams must be hard to find

1394
01:07:25,693 --> 01:07:29,413
Speaker 4: a park, the freaking huge Yeah, I'm ass. You know,

1395
01:07:29,413 --> 01:07:31,613
Speaker 4: if you if you visit Texas, you should. It's a

1396
01:07:31,653 --> 01:07:32,453
Speaker 4: fantastic place.

1397
01:07:32,533 --> 01:07:32,733
Speaker 7: Yep.

1398
01:07:32,813 --> 01:07:35,853
Speaker 4: Go to Austin, go to Dallas, Yeah, my goodness. But

1399
01:07:36,333 --> 01:07:40,213
Speaker 4: if you go to Texas, then the car parks.

1400
01:07:39,853 --> 01:07:41,933
Speaker 3: A huge American size.

1401
01:07:42,013 --> 01:07:44,053
Speaker 4: American size. So if you go to a shopping mall there,

1402
01:07:44,093 --> 01:07:46,773
Speaker 4: the car parks are huge, Like you'll you'll lose you'll

1403
01:07:46,853 --> 01:07:48,453
Speaker 4: lose a Suzuki Swift and then you go back and

1404
01:07:48,453 --> 01:07:52,293
Speaker 4: you're ben't able to find it in the park. But here,

1405
01:07:52,013 --> 01:07:53,893
Speaker 4: if you're driving around one of those rams, how do

1406
01:07:53,933 --> 01:07:54,933
Speaker 4: you freaking park it?

1407
01:07:55,053 --> 01:07:55,213
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1408
01:07:55,253 --> 01:07:57,813
Speaker 3: We need bigger car bucks. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1409
01:07:57,853 --> 01:08:01,173
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to cool? Get a Jeff? Hey

1410
01:08:01,213 --> 01:08:02,893
Speaker 3: you boys, how are you very good?

1411
01:08:02,933 --> 01:08:03,173
Speaker 6: Mate?

1412
01:08:03,173 --> 01:08:04,333
Speaker 3: You just bought a new Raptor.

1413
01:08:05,613 --> 01:08:08,013
Speaker 22: Yeah, bro, I traded in my World track from last

1414
01:08:08,053 --> 01:08:08,893
Speaker 22: year and got a wrap.

1415
01:08:08,933 --> 01:08:11,813
Speaker 4: The mate, Well, you're going ranger to ranger year to year,

1416
01:08:12,013 --> 01:08:14,373
Speaker 4: so you've gone have you gone twenty twenty five to

1417
01:08:14,373 --> 01:08:15,173
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six?

1418
01:08:16,293 --> 01:08:16,492
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1419
01:08:16,492 --> 01:08:16,773
Speaker 19: I did it?

1420
01:08:16,853 --> 01:08:18,493
Speaker 22: Actually, mate, Wow.

1421
01:08:18,733 --> 01:08:21,013
Speaker 4: You're flash what what?

1422
01:08:21,013 --> 01:08:21,213
Speaker 10: What?

1423
01:08:21,213 --> 01:08:23,372
Speaker 4: What is the rap to do that the World track

1424
01:08:23,412 --> 01:08:25,892
Speaker 4: didn't makes nice noises?

1425
01:08:26,253 --> 01:08:26,452
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1426
01:08:26,532 --> 01:08:28,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's the truth.

1427
01:08:28,652 --> 01:08:29,452
Speaker 23: That's the true.

1428
01:08:29,973 --> 01:08:31,572
Speaker 22: I mean, it's got a whole lot of features in it.

1429
01:08:31,652 --> 01:08:34,492
Speaker 22: Then it's all it's all wheel drive, four wheels, so

1430
01:08:34,572 --> 01:08:36,932
Speaker 22: that's good. But mate, I come back from Texas literally

1431
01:08:37,572 --> 01:08:39,053
Speaker 22: and it was like, yeah, mate, I got to get

1432
01:08:39,053 --> 01:08:41,692
Speaker 22: a pick up againa.

1433
01:08:40,812 --> 01:08:41,812
Speaker 4: And what are you doing?

1434
01:08:41,853 --> 01:08:42,133
Speaker 11: Are you?

1435
01:08:42,213 --> 01:08:43,933
Speaker 4: Are you one of these people that this article is

1436
01:08:44,013 --> 01:08:46,572
Speaker 4: judging for just rocking around town and taking your kids

1437
01:08:46,612 --> 01:08:49,253
Speaker 4: to play center or you you're getting out and about

1438
01:08:49,253 --> 01:08:50,253
Speaker 4: in your brand new Raptor.

1439
01:08:51,333 --> 01:08:53,333
Speaker 22: Well, I'm a landscaper and a chef's mate, so I

1440
01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:55,892
Speaker 22: have a catering company at a landscape company. And it's like,

1441
01:08:56,053 --> 01:08:58,372
Speaker 22: I chuck, I don't know what I have on the

1442
01:08:58,412 --> 01:09:01,572
Speaker 22: other day. Twenty one legs of five menuter decking timber

1443
01:09:01,612 --> 01:09:03,452
Speaker 22: on the back, all my tools off we go.

1444
01:09:04,253 --> 01:09:07,812
Speaker 4: But and then then you throw a bunch of sausage

1445
01:09:07,853 --> 01:09:09,532
Speaker 4: rolls on top of that for your catering industry.

1446
01:09:09,532 --> 01:09:12,652
Speaker 3: Well leads a lamb or Is there a separation.

1447
01:09:12,293 --> 01:09:14,572
Speaker 4: Between the food and the landscaping stuff?

1448
01:09:15,452 --> 01:09:18,213
Speaker 22: Well, it actually works really well, mate, because people get

1449
01:09:18,213 --> 01:09:20,652
Speaker 22: me to do their parties and then they find out

1450
01:09:20,692 --> 01:09:22,852
Speaker 22: I do landscaping and I end up doing their properties,

1451
01:09:22,893 --> 01:09:24,692
Speaker 22: or people get me to do their properties and then

1452
01:09:24,732 --> 01:09:26,412
Speaker 22: they end up finding out on my shift as well,

1453
01:09:26,452 --> 01:09:28,213
Speaker 22: and they're like, oh, can you do my hubby's birthday.

1454
01:09:29,612 --> 01:09:32,013
Speaker 4: It's that kind of hustle that enables you to be

1455
01:09:32,213 --> 01:09:34,532
Speaker 4: upgrade a world a twenty twenty five wild Check to

1456
01:09:34,572 --> 01:09:36,253
Speaker 4: a twenty twenty six Raptor.

1457
01:09:37,612 --> 01:09:39,652
Speaker 22: Yeah, but you know, all these people giving us stick

1458
01:09:39,652 --> 01:09:42,532
Speaker 22: about having you its mate, when the cyclone hurts, will

1459
01:09:42,572 --> 01:09:44,253
Speaker 22: be the ones that will be driving around and they'll

1460
01:09:44,253 --> 01:09:45,732
Speaker 22: be the ones at home going jee, I wish I

1461
01:09:45,732 --> 01:09:47,412
Speaker 22: had a youth too order out there.

1462
01:09:47,973 --> 01:09:50,652
Speaker 4: The thing about someone in you, they don't really care,

1463
01:09:50,692 --> 01:09:52,293
Speaker 4: Like did you hear before that when I read out

1464
01:09:52,333 --> 01:09:56,452
Speaker 4: that text from that person on Reddit. People driving seats,

1465
01:09:56,853 --> 01:09:59,572
Speaker 4: if you're a brand new Raptor, you're not driving around

1466
01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:01,333
Speaker 4: thinking what's yeah?

1467
01:10:01,492 --> 01:10:04,772
Speaker 3: You know, I know some internet commentator doesn't like my youth.

1468
01:10:04,853 --> 01:10:08,213
Speaker 4: Who cares someone driving around a forefocused thing?

1469
01:10:09,853 --> 01:10:12,133
Speaker 22: If it were the guys that have a betty peck

1470
01:10:12,173 --> 01:10:12,772
Speaker 22: in the truck.

1471
01:10:12,853 --> 01:10:14,253
Speaker 6: We have a pump.

1472
01:10:14,053 --> 01:10:17,093
Speaker 22: Or inflation, we have a speed tank of gas. You know,

1473
01:10:17,213 --> 01:10:19,372
Speaker 22: you see someone stuck, you pull over, pull them out

1474
01:10:19,492 --> 01:10:20,493
Speaker 22: or give them a handmade.

1475
01:10:20,612 --> 01:10:20,852
Speaker 11: You know?

1476
01:10:21,293 --> 01:10:23,053
Speaker 4: Well, the good news for me, Jiff, is that I've

1477
01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:24,652
Speaker 4: got your number now because you've rung up. So if

1478
01:10:24,692 --> 01:10:26,612
Speaker 4: any if the crap goes down this weekend, I'll be

1479
01:10:26,652 --> 01:10:28,053
Speaker 4: giving you a call. Come around and save me.

1480
01:10:28,452 --> 01:10:31,052
Speaker 22: Yeah, mate, I'll be making chickens, mate, all weekends.

1481
01:10:31,372 --> 01:10:31,972
Speaker 4: Give us a heart.

1482
01:10:32,053 --> 01:10:34,012
Speaker 3: We'll pop around of mine after that. Then that sounds good?

1483
01:10:34,053 --> 01:10:35,452
Speaker 4: Can you come and pull me out of a ditch

1484
01:10:35,812 --> 01:10:40,293
Speaker 4: and feed me a chicken? If if things go you're great,

1485
01:10:40,532 --> 01:10:40,892
Speaker 4: good man?

1486
01:10:41,053 --> 01:10:43,612
Speaker 3: You drivers in a nutshell chickens and timber.

1487
01:10:45,093 --> 01:10:46,612
Speaker 4: You drivers a better than riddit users.

1488
01:10:47,053 --> 01:10:50,612
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Clay, How are you?

1489
01:10:50,732 --> 01:10:51,293
Speaker 6: Yeah? All right?

1490
01:10:51,333 --> 01:10:51,492
Speaker 24: Made?

1491
01:10:51,492 --> 01:10:51,852
Speaker 6: All right?

1492
01:10:52,572 --> 01:10:54,892
Speaker 25: I'll bet you got three I don't even eat two

1493
01:10:54,933 --> 01:10:56,852
Speaker 25: of them, so I'm one of those.

1494
01:10:58,812 --> 01:10:59,012
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1495
01:10:59,293 --> 01:11:01,013
Speaker 4: What kind of propert are you running? Where you can

1496
01:11:01,053 --> 01:11:06,133
Speaker 4: have just three uots parked up and not used underdogs ram.

1497
01:11:06,173 --> 01:11:06,572
Speaker 10: You were just.

1498
01:11:08,812 --> 01:11:14,133
Speaker 25: Nineties one, that's youth. But I had a mass section.

1499
01:11:14,253 --> 01:11:16,173
Speaker 25: It was a bloody good car, and I thought, you

1500
01:11:16,173 --> 01:11:18,492
Speaker 25: know what I want to use. I was a mechanical

1501
01:11:18,492 --> 01:11:21,972
Speaker 25: those to have a shop till COVID and took that away.

1502
01:11:22,013 --> 01:11:25,293
Speaker 25: But and then I thought, you really by are you

1503
01:11:26,372 --> 01:11:28,492
Speaker 25: but what you were saying just before I thought the

1504
01:11:28,532 --> 01:11:30,932
Speaker 25: torno cover up the other day and it's fuck, I'm

1505
01:11:31,013 --> 01:11:32,253
Speaker 25: using as a storage unit.

1506
01:11:32,333 --> 01:11:36,932
Speaker 5: I don't even realize.

1507
01:11:37,333 --> 01:11:39,133
Speaker 25: I went to go away on holidays. Well I put

1508
01:11:39,133 --> 01:11:41,012
Speaker 25: my ship in the back and there's stuff there already.

1509
01:11:41,093 --> 01:11:45,133
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's because any space that you've got will

1510
01:11:45,173 --> 01:11:47,892
Speaker 4: be will get filled to the brim. So if you've

1511
01:11:47,893 --> 01:11:49,333
Speaker 4: got if you've got to if you've got a tray

1512
01:11:49,452 --> 01:11:51,053
Speaker 4: and it's got nothing in it will get filled up.

1513
01:11:51,133 --> 01:11:52,572
Speaker 4: It's like if you've got a ship, it gets filled up.

1514
01:11:52,572 --> 01:11:54,212
Speaker 4: You got a garage, it gets filled up, your neteckad

1515
01:11:54,213 --> 01:11:56,412
Speaker 4: gets filled up. Just any space or get filled up.

1516
01:11:57,412 --> 01:11:59,572
Speaker 25: And Alaska, it's got a torno, came on, I want

1517
01:11:59,612 --> 01:12:01,452
Speaker 25: to put stuff on it came.

1518
01:12:01,572 --> 01:12:05,293
Speaker 26: I forget it far yeah yeah classic, yeah, and then

1519
01:12:06,412 --> 01:12:10,372
Speaker 26: here you go claim yeah yeah, so I actually bought

1520
01:12:10,412 --> 01:12:12,173
Speaker 26: the man to beat your company first, and I want

1521
01:12:12,213 --> 01:12:12,492
Speaker 26: the ram.

1522
01:12:12,652 --> 01:12:16,412
Speaker 25: Now I'm thinking I don't even need to be a

1523
01:12:16,492 --> 01:12:19,412
Speaker 25: double can when they're small in the bank, my cancer

1524
01:12:19,492 --> 01:12:21,932
Speaker 25: up and older. So I don't say I don't know why.

1525
01:12:21,973 --> 01:12:27,452
Speaker 25: I don't tell it by the station wagon. It's just

1526
01:12:27,612 --> 01:12:29,013
Speaker 25: I think it's our culture to own you.

1527
01:12:29,492 --> 01:12:32,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and if you love it, is there anything

1528
01:12:32,293 --> 01:12:32,732
Speaker 3: wrong with that?

1529
01:12:33,293 --> 01:12:36,772
Speaker 4: There reaches a time in your life when you go,

1530
01:12:36,893 --> 01:12:39,732
Speaker 4: I can afford a ute and yeah, and of course

1531
01:12:39,772 --> 01:12:41,452
Speaker 4: you can. You can afford to you most of the time,

1532
01:12:41,532 --> 01:12:43,772
Speaker 4: depending what you you get. Yeah, you know if you

1533
01:12:43,812 --> 01:12:46,612
Speaker 4: go there. But but and you go, well, I want

1534
01:12:46,612 --> 01:12:48,053
Speaker 4: to use just in case I need to take something

1535
01:12:48,093 --> 01:12:50,852
Speaker 4: to the dump in the next six months. Exactly what

1536
01:12:50,893 --> 01:12:53,612
Speaker 4: does the Raptor do? You can hit a speed bump

1537
01:12:53,612 --> 01:12:55,532
Speaker 4: at one hundred kilometers and how not even feel it?

1538
01:12:55,853 --> 01:12:58,692
Speaker 4: So speed bumps are really speed bumps. And a Raptor

1539
01:12:59,133 --> 01:13:03,013
Speaker 4: three point three liter twin turbo versex engine and the

1540
01:13:03,093 --> 01:13:05,732
Speaker 4: Raptor two for a seventy meter tank, I get three

1541
01:13:05,732 --> 01:13:08,572
Speaker 4: and fifty three hundred and fifty kilometers. The Raptor is

1542
01:13:08,612 --> 01:13:10,652
Speaker 4: like an off road Mustang that's from Joel.

1543
01:13:10,732 --> 01:13:13,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely pitched. I'm buying one. That's it. Keep those

1544
01:13:14,013 --> 01:13:15,092
Speaker 3: six coming through on nineteen.

1545
01:13:15,372 --> 01:13:19,253
Speaker 4: Trying to be tough with all the owners. You drive

1546
01:13:19,253 --> 01:13:21,852
Speaker 4: a hybrid, Yeah I do. Yeah, I'm going to.

1547
01:13:21,853 --> 01:13:26,253
Speaker 3: Buy some rap pat it's all weel drive though. It

1548
01:13:26,333 --> 01:13:28,333
Speaker 3: is time that it's the three.

1549
01:13:28,532 --> 01:13:30,972
Speaker 12: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1550
01:13:31,013 --> 01:13:31,652
Speaker 12: along the way.

1551
01:13:31,893 --> 01:13:35,973
Speaker 1: Mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons, New storksb.

1552
01:13:37,213 --> 01:13:39,932
Speaker 2: Newstalks there be it is seven to three. We're talking uts.

1553
01:13:40,013 --> 01:13:41,092
Speaker 2: Get a nick.

1554
01:13:42,452 --> 01:13:42,492
Speaker 15: O.

1555
01:13:42,612 --> 01:13:44,412
Speaker 27: Gooday guys, how are you very good?

1556
01:13:44,412 --> 01:13:45,132
Speaker 3: Happy Friday?

1557
01:13:46,013 --> 01:13:48,452
Speaker 27: Yeah and you yes, yes, that's a beautiful day too.

1558
01:13:48,853 --> 01:13:51,293
Speaker 3: Oh it is down to Wellington, nice good place.

1559
01:13:52,412 --> 01:13:53,452
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, I like it.

1560
01:13:54,333 --> 01:13:56,892
Speaker 27: So yeah, I just want to use. I h I've

1561
01:13:56,933 --> 01:13:59,253
Speaker 27: never had a use until about three years ago when

1562
01:13:59,253 --> 01:14:01,133
Speaker 27: we bought ourselves a caravan and so I thought we

1563
01:14:01,213 --> 01:14:02,253
Speaker 27: have to toe this or something.

1564
01:14:02,333 --> 01:14:04,012
Speaker 11: So I bought an old.

1565
01:14:05,293 --> 01:14:09,013
Speaker 27: Seven year old Colorado, which was pretty good, but I

1566
01:14:09,133 --> 01:14:11,932
Speaker 27: used to drink diesel like nothing. And I also had

1567
01:14:11,973 --> 01:14:14,333
Speaker 27: a small carful work just to sit in the scoter

1568
01:14:14,452 --> 01:14:17,333
Speaker 27: and I thought, yeah, this is not really idea. I'm

1569
01:14:17,333 --> 01:14:19,972
Speaker 27: paying two lots of insurance and so I want something

1570
01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:23,213
Speaker 27: that can do both, and I was interested in hybrid

1571
01:14:23,333 --> 01:14:27,452
Speaker 27: or electric technology. And then about a year ago the

1572
01:14:27,492 --> 01:14:31,333
Speaker 27: beyd Shark came out, which I took a drive a

1573
01:14:31,372 --> 01:14:34,372
Speaker 27: test drive in and thought this is perfect. So I

1574
01:14:34,452 --> 01:14:36,852
Speaker 27: sold both the Colorado and the Skater and bought the

1575
01:14:36,893 --> 01:14:39,133
Speaker 27: Shark and I love it. And I've been driving this

1576
01:14:39,173 --> 01:14:44,452
Speaker 27: around for the work. The home stuff pose the caravan

1577
01:14:44,532 --> 01:14:45,253
Speaker 27: like it's not even.

1578
01:14:45,133 --> 01:14:48,492
Speaker 3: On the back, and they look very cool sleep and.

1579
01:14:48,652 --> 01:14:50,293
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think it's pretty cool too.

1580
01:14:50,412 --> 01:14:53,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just look cool. That the design on the

1581
01:14:53,973 --> 01:14:56,053
Speaker 4: bad Shark. And that's a shallow way to look at it,

1582
01:14:56,093 --> 01:14:58,412
Speaker 4: I guess, but whenever I see one, I go, that

1583
01:14:58,532 --> 01:15:01,532
Speaker 4: looks cool, you know, just the shape and the lights

1584
01:15:01,692 --> 01:15:02,333
Speaker 4: they look great.

1585
01:15:03,293 --> 01:15:05,213
Speaker 27: Yeah, yeah, that was part of the appeal. Was that

1586
01:15:05,933 --> 01:15:09,012
Speaker 27: just the slightly beast I don't know what you describe

1587
01:15:09,053 --> 01:15:09,732
Speaker 27: it as, but it was.

1588
01:15:09,812 --> 01:15:10,253
Speaker 23: It was cool.

1589
01:15:10,333 --> 01:15:10,572
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1590
01:15:10,853 --> 01:15:13,772
Speaker 27: But the talk, the power, I mean, this thing has

1591
01:15:13,812 --> 01:15:16,492
Speaker 27: got six hundred and fifteen meters of talk, which will

1592
01:15:16,492 --> 01:15:18,173
Speaker 27: smoke a raptord the lights any day.

1593
01:15:18,652 --> 01:15:21,772
Speaker 4: And how's it tugging? What you needed to tug net?

1594
01:15:23,293 --> 01:15:26,253
Speaker 27: I've got a two ton caravan and even though this

1595
01:15:26,372 --> 01:15:28,492
Speaker 27: isn't rated for three and a half, which is what

1596
01:15:28,572 --> 01:15:34,093
Speaker 27: the Fords and the Colorados were are. It's pools like

1597
01:15:34,173 --> 01:15:37,173
Speaker 27: it's not even on the back. It's just because it's heavy,

1598
01:15:37,372 --> 01:15:42,213
Speaker 27: heavy itself, and the talk is more than the Colorado

1599
01:15:42,253 --> 01:15:45,133
Speaker 27: head and so yeah, I mean, I know it's there,

1600
01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:47,892
Speaker 27: but it's it certainly doesn't impede its performance anyway.

1601
01:15:47,933 --> 01:15:48,293
Speaker 18: I can.

1602
01:15:48,612 --> 01:15:51,293
Speaker 27: I'm not allowed to, but I can sneak around at

1603
01:15:51,293 --> 01:15:52,932
Speaker 27: one hundred and ten k's if I have too.

1604
01:15:53,772 --> 01:15:57,732
Speaker 4: Good on your neck? Yeah, and the voiceover artists for

1605
01:15:57,772 --> 01:15:59,932
Speaker 4: the for the TV as it's pretty hot.

1606
01:15:59,893 --> 01:16:03,452
Speaker 2: Voice not bad, not bad, Yeah, yeah, pretty sixy actually

1607
01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:06,572
Speaker 2: five go your way there at a DYD shirt. You've

1608
01:16:06,572 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 2: done that before, mate, Well those sticks agrees with you

1609
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:11,932
Speaker 2: as well. Nick I go have a look on YouTube

1610
01:16:11,973 --> 01:16:17,932
Speaker 2: byd Shark six smashes a Ford Raptor in a drag race.

1611
01:16:18,013 --> 01:16:19,492
Speaker 2: Absolutely beast of a vehicle.

1612
01:16:19,692 --> 01:16:22,772
Speaker 4: American truck is the way to go, sais Is Texas. Yes,

1613
01:16:22,812 --> 01:16:24,293
Speaker 4: you've got to park at the far side of the

1614
01:16:24,293 --> 01:16:26,652
Speaker 4: car park so you don't get dinged by idiots. Yes,

1615
01:16:26,692 --> 01:16:29,213
Speaker 4: there's some parking biddles you can't get into. But there's

1616
01:16:29,213 --> 01:16:31,253
Speaker 4: nothing better than the sound of a Chevy v eight

1617
01:16:31,372 --> 01:16:34,053
Speaker 4: and sitting higher than everyone else on the road. You

1618
01:16:34,093 --> 01:16:36,692
Speaker 4: can tow anything, you can pull anything out of tight spots.

1619
01:16:36,692 --> 01:16:39,973
Speaker 4: You're driving over curbs, straight through roundabouts. The cab is

1620
01:16:40,053 --> 01:16:43,173
Speaker 4: huge and spacious, and the fuel bill is no more,

1621
01:16:43,412 --> 01:16:45,893
Speaker 4: if not less than a ranger because the cylinder is

1622
01:16:45,933 --> 01:16:47,932
Speaker 4: shut down if not needed.

1623
01:16:48,013 --> 01:16:49,133
Speaker 3: Yeh, very good.

1624
01:16:49,692 --> 01:16:52,892
Speaker 4: Despite a few people online having a go at ute drivers,

1625
01:16:52,973 --> 01:16:57,012
Speaker 4: and we still very much are a nation of ute lovers.

1626
01:16:57,093 --> 01:17:00,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, and love a utility. Power to the utes. Right

1627
01:17:00,213 --> 01:17:03,852
Speaker 3: coming up after three o'clock, mckfleetwood is getting married for

1628
01:17:03,893 --> 01:17:05,452
Speaker 3: the fifth time. Can you beat that?

1629
01:17:05,933 --> 01:17:08,692
Speaker 2: And in about twenty five minutes, New Zealander of the

1630
01:17:08,732 --> 01:17:11,092
Speaker 2: Week is coming up for you, New Sport and weather

1631
01:17:11,492 --> 01:17:13,053
Speaker 2: is on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

1632
01:17:13,093 --> 01:17:14,692
Speaker 2: Hope you're having a great Friday afternoon.

1633
01:17:15,652 --> 01:17:16,692
Speaker 28: As if we made.

1634
01:17:16,532 --> 01:17:17,933
Speaker 3: It here, then we met it.

1635
01:17:20,372 --> 01:17:24,452
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

1636
01:17:24,812 --> 01:17:29,333
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

1637
01:17:29,093 --> 01:17:33,772
Speaker 2: Talk said the afternoon, welcome back into the show, seven

1638
01:17:33,973 --> 01:17:36,293
Speaker 2: past three on your Friday afternoon. Great to have you

1639
01:17:36,492 --> 01:17:38,732
Speaker 2: listening to us as always, Hope you're having a good

1640
01:17:38,732 --> 01:17:39,773
Speaker 2: Friday afternoon.

1641
01:17:40,253 --> 01:17:42,333
Speaker 3: So Mick Fleetwood's he.

1642
01:17:42,253 --> 01:17:46,492
Speaker 2: Has quietly married his longtime partner Elizabeth Jordan at the

1643
01:17:46,532 --> 01:17:49,732
Speaker 2: age of seventy eight. This marks his fifth marriage. So

1644
01:17:49,772 --> 01:17:52,972
Speaker 2: the couple had their ceremony somewhere in the South Pacific.

1645
01:17:52,973 --> 01:17:54,572
Speaker 2: I've got to say, looking at the pictures, that looked

1646
01:17:54,652 --> 01:17:57,692
Speaker 2: lovely and she is fifty six.

1647
01:17:58,492 --> 01:18:01,333
Speaker 4: That's great. That's like you in your cradle, Robin.

1648
01:18:01,452 --> 01:18:04,812
Speaker 2: You want to speak, mate, We're going to get the

1649
01:18:04,772 --> 01:18:05,532
Speaker 2: advocates out.

1650
01:18:07,013 --> 01:18:09,013
Speaker 3: But he's doing all right. So sety and fifty six,

1651
01:18:09,053 --> 01:18:10,133
Speaker 3: what's that? Twenty two years?

1652
01:18:10,133 --> 01:18:11,012
Speaker 12: Not bad, not bad.

1653
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:12,653
Speaker 4: He's in good shape. Mcfleetwood.

1654
01:18:12,732 --> 01:18:13,572
Speaker 3: He looks very good.

1655
01:18:13,612 --> 01:18:16,052
Speaker 4: So that's marriage five.

1656
01:18:16,572 --> 01:18:18,092
Speaker 3: That is marriage number five.

1657
01:18:18,853 --> 01:18:22,652
Speaker 4: That's a huge amount of marriages. It's a lot of weddings,

1658
01:18:22,692 --> 01:18:25,812
Speaker 4: it's a lot of wives, it's a lot of admin yep,

1659
01:18:26,133 --> 01:18:28,333
Speaker 4: a lot of har Is it a lot of love

1660
01:18:28,572 --> 01:18:31,012
Speaker 4: or not enough love? Do you get married a lot

1661
01:18:31,133 --> 01:18:34,652
Speaker 4: because you believe in love? Or do you are you

1662
01:18:34,692 --> 01:18:37,932
Speaker 4: were romantic? Or do you get married a lot because

1663
01:18:37,973 --> 01:18:39,652
Speaker 4: you're useless at love and you don't believe it and

1664
01:18:39,692 --> 01:18:40,293
Speaker 4: you mess it up?

1665
01:18:40,372 --> 01:18:42,572
Speaker 2: And that's the question, right, yeah, oh eight, one hundred

1666
01:18:42,612 --> 01:18:44,812
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. If you've been married multiple times,

1667
01:18:44,853 --> 01:18:46,852
Speaker 2: what is it? Is it that you're a hopeless romantic?

1668
01:18:46,853 --> 01:18:50,253
Speaker 4: Because after three do you go, I'm not great at this?

1669
01:18:51,452 --> 01:18:53,053
Speaker 4: Or do you go I've got the experience. Now I'm

1670
01:18:53,053 --> 01:18:56,012
Speaker 4: going to nail this one. So mcfletood's going to this.

1671
01:18:56,013 --> 01:19:00,572
Speaker 4: This fifth is I'm great. I am practiced at this. Yeah,

1672
01:19:00,572 --> 01:19:03,333
Speaker 4: I've done my ten thousand hours at this. I'm an

1673
01:19:03,372 --> 01:19:06,892
Speaker 4: expert at marriage. And is anyone in New Zealand because

1674
01:19:06,893 --> 01:19:08,852
Speaker 4: that's them. I've never I've never heard of anyone in

1675
01:19:08,853 --> 01:19:10,293
Speaker 4: New Zealand that's been married five times?

1676
01:19:10,412 --> 01:19:12,812
Speaker 3: No, me, neither a couple of fours. Heard of a

1677
01:19:12,812 --> 01:19:13,133
Speaker 3: couple of.

1678
01:19:13,173 --> 01:19:17,293
Speaker 4: Fours as an old Yeah, great New Zealander. Lighton Smith

1679
01:19:17,333 --> 01:19:17,852
Speaker 4: he's four.

1680
01:19:18,053 --> 01:19:20,253
Speaker 3: Yes, someone ticks that in. I believe it is number four.

1681
01:19:20,253 --> 01:19:23,013
Speaker 4: The right Honorable Mark Mitchell. I believe he has just

1682
01:19:23,053 --> 01:19:24,093
Speaker 4: got married for the fourth time.

1683
01:19:24,173 --> 01:19:24,572
Speaker 18: Correct.

1684
01:19:24,612 --> 01:19:28,092
Speaker 4: But I can't imagine anyone in New Zealand's being married

1685
01:19:28,133 --> 01:19:31,452
Speaker 4: five times. We're not like that. We're not Joan Collins Nation,

1686
01:19:31,692 --> 01:19:31,973
Speaker 4: are we.

1687
01:19:32,173 --> 01:19:32,253
Speaker 10: No.

1688
01:19:32,612 --> 01:19:34,612
Speaker 2: Well, if you can beat that, if you've been married

1689
01:19:34,652 --> 01:19:36,492
Speaker 2: more than five times, oh eight hundred and eighty, ten

1690
01:19:36,532 --> 01:19:37,492
Speaker 2: eighty give us a call.

1691
01:19:37,612 --> 01:19:39,492
Speaker 4: Or if you know of someone that's been married five

1692
01:19:39,572 --> 01:19:42,293
Speaker 4: or more times, and why do you go back to

1693
01:19:42,333 --> 01:19:46,372
Speaker 4: get married? So if you've had three failed marriages and

1694
01:19:46,412 --> 01:19:50,173
Speaker 4: you've bought three people who don't like houses, what do

1695
01:19:50,213 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 4: you go back?

1696
01:19:51,452 --> 01:19:52,732
Speaker 2: There was a guy who used to work with I'm

1697
01:19:52,732 --> 01:19:54,652
Speaker 2: not going to name names here, but he was married

1698
01:19:54,893 --> 01:19:58,172
Speaker 2: three times, which is a good nudge. But he always

1699
01:19:58,213 --> 01:20:01,892
Speaker 2: said he was a romantic, that he just loved the

1700
01:20:01,933 --> 01:20:06,812
Speaker 2: idea of love. And when the marriage broke up and

1701
01:20:06,853 --> 01:20:09,173
Speaker 2: he met someone else, he didn't muck around. He got

1702
01:20:09,253 --> 01:20:14,053
Speaker 2: hitched pretty quickly after the next one, so you know

1703
01:20:14,093 --> 01:20:16,253
Speaker 2: whether there was something in there. He he just loved

1704
01:20:16,293 --> 01:20:18,012
Speaker 2: that idea of being married so much.

1705
01:20:19,053 --> 01:20:24,572
Speaker 4: Is I mean with your Mick Fleetwood, you've got the

1706
01:20:24,692 --> 01:20:27,892
Speaker 4: financial backing to be married five times, right, correct? But

1707
01:20:27,933 --> 01:20:30,933
Speaker 4: there's not many people that can go around splitting what

1708
01:20:30,973 --> 01:20:33,812
Speaker 4: they own in half more than.

1709
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:36,852
Speaker 2: Say three times. No, so give us a call. Oh

1710
01:20:36,893 --> 01:20:39,772
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty sheer your story. If you've

1711
01:20:39,772 --> 01:20:42,732
Speaker 2: been married multiple times, is it because that you are

1712
01:20:42,772 --> 01:20:45,253
Speaker 2: a bit of a hopeless romantic that you you know

1713
01:20:45,293 --> 01:20:47,253
Speaker 2: you've got it in you that this time it's going

1714
01:20:47,333 --> 01:20:49,692
Speaker 2: to be the last time. And if you know someone

1715
01:20:49,732 --> 01:20:51,852
Speaker 2: who has been married more than five times, give us

1716
01:20:51,853 --> 01:20:53,772
Speaker 2: a call. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1717
01:20:53,812 --> 01:20:56,333
Speaker 2: that number? Nine two nine to two is the text

1718
01:20:56,372 --> 01:20:58,572
Speaker 2: as well. We'll be back very shortly. It is ten

1719
01:20:58,612 --> 01:21:01,812
Speaker 2: past three. This dog said, be very good afternoon you

1720
01:21:01,893 --> 01:21:04,572
Speaker 2: thirteen past three. So we're talking about people who get

1721
01:21:04,652 --> 01:21:07,133
Speaker 2: married multiple times. This is after Mick Fleetwood has just

1722
01:21:07,173 --> 01:21:08,812
Speaker 2: got married again for the fifth time.

1723
01:21:09,013 --> 01:21:11,972
Speaker 4: Hey, lads, after first marriage down to half of everything,

1724
01:21:12,133 --> 01:21:14,932
Speaker 4: second marriage down to one quarter. Third marriage is on eight.

1725
01:21:15,372 --> 01:21:18,213
Speaker 4: It's just like being down to GST percentage. It's from Perley.

1726
01:21:18,333 --> 01:21:21,372
Speaker 3: Thank you, Alani. How are you?

1727
01:21:21,412 --> 01:21:22,173
Speaker 5: Oh good?

1728
01:21:22,253 --> 01:21:22,812
Speaker 6: Thank you?

1729
01:21:24,253 --> 01:21:26,933
Speaker 2: Good to chat with you, my friends. So tell us

1730
01:21:26,973 --> 01:21:28,572
Speaker 2: your story. How many times you've been married?

1731
01:21:29,572 --> 01:21:33,812
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm on my fish marriage, going on my sixth,

1732
01:21:34,612 --> 01:21:36,293
Speaker 6: and I believe this is not the end.

1733
01:21:36,333 --> 01:21:39,173
Speaker 4: My friend, Well, you're going to keep your plan to

1734
01:21:39,213 --> 01:21:42,092
Speaker 4: not make this this one work and get another one.

1735
01:21:42,572 --> 01:21:46,772
Speaker 6: Well, I keep it by my best. You know, marriage

1736
01:21:46,853 --> 01:21:51,492
Speaker 6: is I think it's fourth week. It's a two week

1737
01:21:51,572 --> 01:21:56,213
Speaker 6: sy it's not a one week. Terrific sharing and Gary

1738
01:21:57,572 --> 01:22:01,053
Speaker 6: when people might think that I accuse my woman and

1739
01:22:01,253 --> 01:22:03,652
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't believe in that. I don't believe

1740
01:22:03,652 --> 01:22:05,253
Speaker 6: in hurting any of your.

1741
01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:06,572
Speaker 12: Women good I want.

1742
01:22:07,853 --> 01:22:11,173
Speaker 6: I don't when things doesn't go.

1743
01:22:11,333 --> 01:22:12,813
Speaker 11: Your way or go away.

1744
01:22:13,732 --> 01:22:17,133
Speaker 6: You know that the most either thing for me to

1745
01:22:17,253 --> 01:22:19,772
Speaker 6: hear when they say I'm going to call the police

1746
01:22:20,572 --> 01:22:25,493
Speaker 6: because I'm not an appressive person. I believe in treating everyone,

1747
01:22:26,572 --> 01:22:30,532
Speaker 6: keep them to the opportunity to make things right. But

1748
01:22:30,772 --> 01:22:35,092
Speaker 6: some people they just hunting for something that they wanted

1749
01:22:35,133 --> 01:22:37,972
Speaker 6: to get a piece of your life, and they don't

1750
01:22:38,492 --> 01:22:41,812
Speaker 6: you know, just using you another word is using you?

1751
01:22:42,053 --> 01:22:46,532
Speaker 4: So why have your what if your marriage is generally ended? Alani?

1752
01:22:47,732 --> 01:22:50,772
Speaker 6: When you say to me, well, uh, I think I

1753
01:22:50,933 --> 01:22:54,932
Speaker 6: head enough of you. I want you out of the door.

1754
01:22:55,253 --> 01:22:58,213
Speaker 6: So I don't stand and inspect them to say no.

1755
01:22:58,812 --> 01:23:00,812
Speaker 6: Once they say out the door, I'm out the door.

1756
01:23:00,933 --> 01:23:05,052
Speaker 6: I don't have to say sorry. I already say sorry,

1757
01:23:05,093 --> 01:23:07,532
Speaker 6: and I wanted to make it right. If I make

1758
01:23:07,572 --> 01:23:12,253
Speaker 6: a mistake, and some silly mistakes just in something that

1759
01:23:12,492 --> 01:23:17,093
Speaker 6: for example, if I say something wrong, you know, they

1760
01:23:17,213 --> 01:23:19,253
Speaker 6: just make it up. But they already make up their money.

1761
01:23:19,253 --> 01:23:20,293
Speaker 6: They're gonna kick me out.

1762
01:23:20,933 --> 01:23:21,133
Speaker 11: You know.

1763
01:23:21,253 --> 01:23:24,973
Speaker 6: Sometimes the problem is this Some of the women that

1764
01:23:25,053 --> 01:23:28,772
Speaker 6: I married, they come with a baggage. I don't have

1765
01:23:28,812 --> 01:23:29,613
Speaker 6: a package.

1766
01:23:29,853 --> 01:23:30,173
Speaker 18: Right.

1767
01:23:30,492 --> 01:23:35,012
Speaker 4: But if you're if you're marrying again now on fifth marriage,

1768
01:23:35,532 --> 01:23:37,932
Speaker 4: isn't those previous marriages a little bit of a little

1769
01:23:37,933 --> 01:23:42,932
Speaker 4: bit of baggage? Okay, you're but but what what what

1770
01:23:43,013 --> 01:23:46,333
Speaker 4: happens with all the previous marriages are still in contact

1771
01:23:46,372 --> 01:23:48,452
Speaker 4: with them? You got a new kids footing around or anything.

1772
01:23:48,612 --> 01:23:50,532
Speaker 7: Alan they are growing.

1773
01:23:50,412 --> 01:23:53,852
Speaker 6: Out some of them. Like when I say I don't

1774
01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:56,253
Speaker 6: have tuan, they come with their own churn and they

1775
01:23:56,293 --> 01:23:59,732
Speaker 6: wanted to residency in New Zealand, so I married them

1776
01:23:59,812 --> 01:24:02,333
Speaker 6: to give them a place in New Zealand.

1777
01:24:02,532 --> 01:24:04,933
Speaker 4: All right, So there's a marriages of convenience.

1778
01:24:06,053 --> 01:24:10,852
Speaker 6: Yes, sometimes I feel sorry about them, you know, seeing

1779
01:24:10,933 --> 01:24:14,293
Speaker 6: that they need to going to school. I know them

1780
01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:17,053
Speaker 6: to give them life their husband run away and leave

1781
01:24:17,133 --> 01:24:17,612
Speaker 6: their children.

1782
01:24:18,133 --> 01:24:22,452
Speaker 4: No, you know, so if you if you marry someone

1783
01:24:22,572 --> 01:24:25,612
Speaker 4: and it gives them that kind of ability to be

1784
01:24:25,812 --> 01:24:28,772
Speaker 4: in New Zealander or whatever once the divorce is over,

1785
01:24:28,853 --> 01:24:32,612
Speaker 4: does that remain with those kids once once the marriage

1786
01:24:32,612 --> 01:24:36,253
Speaker 4: is over, does that does that legal status remain No?

1787
01:24:37,572 --> 01:24:40,812
Speaker 6: If I have chi it will stay on. But if

1788
01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:44,452
Speaker 6: I don't have any Churan with them team. They know

1789
01:24:45,253 --> 01:24:47,253
Speaker 6: there's no bunting to it.

1790
01:24:48,293 --> 01:24:51,372
Speaker 4: Are you hopeful that the next marriage, the one coming up,

1791
01:24:51,572 --> 01:24:53,372
Speaker 4: is going to be the right one. It's the it's

1792
01:24:53,412 --> 01:24:54,732
Speaker 4: the it's the ultimate one.

1793
01:24:55,612 --> 01:25:01,013
Speaker 6: Yes, I've been thinking hard about this. I want to

1794
01:25:01,053 --> 01:25:05,493
Speaker 6: make it. It's my last. But like what I say,

1795
01:25:07,053 --> 01:25:11,692
Speaker 6: I'm still hunting for or miss right right in my life.

1796
01:25:11,732 --> 01:25:15,133
Speaker 6: I need someone that then look at me and and

1797
01:25:15,253 --> 01:25:17,852
Speaker 6: take me as I am not look at me and

1798
01:25:17,853 --> 01:25:20,532
Speaker 6: see what they can get out of my life.

1799
01:25:20,973 --> 01:25:23,092
Speaker 3: You don't reckon number six? Is that woman, Alani?

1800
01:25:26,452 --> 01:25:31,013
Speaker 6: I'm not sure. Really hard to predict the mind of

1801
01:25:31,093 --> 01:25:31,813
Speaker 6: the woman.

1802
01:25:31,612 --> 01:25:34,013
Speaker 4: But you're still hard to predict. But you're still just

1803
01:25:34,093 --> 01:25:36,692
Speaker 4: going to go right here and get married anyway?

1804
01:25:37,213 --> 01:25:40,532
Speaker 6: Yes, because because for me, I hope this is the

1805
01:25:41,973 --> 01:25:43,213
Speaker 6: lucky as lucky.

1806
01:25:44,053 --> 01:25:47,212
Speaker 4: You're an optimus to Lanian Well, beast of luck, Alanie

1807
01:25:47,452 --> 01:25:49,972
Speaker 4: with this one and keep us up today. I want

1808
01:25:49,973 --> 01:25:51,372
Speaker 4: to hear how this one? We want to hear how

1809
01:25:51,452 --> 01:25:51,972
Speaker 4: this one? Guys?

1810
01:25:52,053 --> 01:25:54,893
Speaker 11: Number six guys, Yeah, lovely.

1811
01:25:54,652 --> 01:25:58,133
Speaker 3: Lovely than all the very best.

1812
01:25:58,213 --> 01:26:01,173
Speaker 2: So number six maybe the last one, Not quite sure,

1813
01:26:01,173 --> 01:26:03,293
Speaker 2: but we'll say that goes. It might even be number seven.

1814
01:26:03,412 --> 01:26:07,093
Speaker 4: How I'm ready here about Glenn Wolf. Of you about

1815
01:26:07,133 --> 01:26:09,412
Speaker 4: Glenn Wolf, I have not. So he was the American

1816
01:26:09,452 --> 01:26:13,892
Speaker 4: Baptist minister and hotel owner, and he has the record

1817
01:26:13,973 --> 01:26:15,972
Speaker 4: in the United States of America for the largest number

1818
01:26:16,013 --> 01:26:20,293
Speaker 4: of monogamous marriages. Right, Cabin married thirty one times, thirty

1819
01:26:20,412 --> 01:26:24,092
Speaker 4: won thirty one different times, although one of his marriages

1820
01:26:24,173 --> 01:26:31,852
Speaker 4: was annulled and sevil remained complicated. So yeah, he during

1821
01:26:31,853 --> 01:26:37,532
Speaker 4: a seventh marriage. Yeah, so his shortest one was nineteen days,

1822
01:26:39,412 --> 01:26:41,973
Speaker 4: and yeah, he just kept marrying, and sometimes he'd remarry

1823
01:26:42,213 --> 01:26:45,892
Speaker 4: someone that he'd married before. But thirty one times, so

1824
01:26:46,532 --> 01:26:48,772
Speaker 4: you know, I mean he's a Baptist minister. I mean

1825
01:26:48,893 --> 01:26:51,013
Speaker 4: at the church are they You're looking around going, I

1826
01:26:51,053 --> 01:26:53,532
Speaker 4: don't know about our minister. He seems to be marrying

1827
01:26:53,572 --> 01:26:55,732
Speaker 4: thirty one different thirty one times.

1828
01:26:55,893 --> 01:26:58,572
Speaker 2: So if you live to the age of ninety, that

1829
01:26:58,732 --> 01:27:01,653
Speaker 2: is a marriage every three years. That is incredible.

1830
01:27:01,732 --> 01:27:04,812
Speaker 4: Wellf's shortest marriage lasted nineteen days. Three of his marriages

1831
01:27:04,853 --> 01:27:07,452
Speaker 4: with a woman he had previously divorced. He married Charlotte

1832
01:27:07,532 --> 01:27:10,772
Speaker 4: Devaney and nineteen thirty six, and after divorcing earlier that year,

1833
01:27:10,853 --> 01:27:14,333
Speaker 4: remarried Katherine Archer in nineteen forty nine after divorcing the

1834
01:27:14,372 --> 01:27:18,213
Speaker 4: previous year, and remarried Sharon Goodwin in nineteen sixty after

1835
01:27:18,213 --> 01:27:21,652
Speaker 4: divorcing the previous year. His first, eighth, ninth, and twenty

1836
01:27:21,692 --> 01:27:24,573
Speaker 4: third marriages ended with the death of his wife suspicious.

1837
01:27:24,812 --> 01:27:28,612
Speaker 4: His longest marriage, to his twenty eighth wife, Christine, lasted

1838
01:27:28,612 --> 01:27:33,812
Speaker 4: eleven years. That's nice. Twenty ninth wife, Bonnie, who was

1839
01:27:33,853 --> 01:27:36,772
Speaker 4: herself married ten times, she was murdered.

1840
01:27:37,812 --> 01:27:40,253
Speaker 3: Oh not by Glenn Wolf.

1841
01:27:41,213 --> 01:27:43,692
Speaker 4: No, no, wow, I don't know, but he's losing a

1842
01:27:43,732 --> 01:27:46,532
Speaker 4: lot of wives. Hollywood actor Robert Blake was charged in

1843
01:27:46,532 --> 01:27:49,133
Speaker 4: connection with her death. He was found not guilty, but

1844
01:27:49,333 --> 01:27:51,812
Speaker 4: was found libable in a wrong warth both.

1845
01:27:52,053 --> 01:27:54,053
Speaker 2: I mean, this is fascinating and a movie needs to

1846
01:27:54,053 --> 01:27:54,892
Speaker 2: be made about this guy.

1847
01:27:54,973 --> 01:27:58,173
Speaker 4: He married Linda Taylor, who was then the record holder

1848
01:27:58,213 --> 01:28:01,892
Speaker 4: for the most married woman. So he married a woman

1849
01:28:01,893 --> 01:28:05,532
Speaker 4: who had married twenty eight times and he married thirty

1850
01:28:05,532 --> 01:28:05,892
Speaker 4: one time.

1851
01:28:05,933 --> 01:28:09,412
Speaker 3: The Guinness Will record holders coming together. Something beautiful about

1852
01:28:09,412 --> 01:28:10,333
Speaker 3: that clean wolf?

1853
01:28:10,412 --> 01:28:11,973
Speaker 4: What a dirty dog Glenn Wolf was?

1854
01:28:12,412 --> 01:28:15,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, one's beating that clearly. Oh e one hundred

1855
01:28:15,572 --> 01:28:17,053
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. We want to hear from you. If

1856
01:28:17,053 --> 01:28:19,972
Speaker 2: you've had multiple marriages, why what is it about?

1857
01:28:20,013 --> 01:28:20,133
Speaker 21: It?

1858
01:28:20,173 --> 01:28:22,452
Speaker 3: Is it that because you believe in love so much,

1859
01:28:22,853 --> 01:28:25,532
Speaker 3: we can hear your story? Nineteen ninety two is the text.

1860
01:28:25,532 --> 01:28:26,652
Speaker 3: It's twenty past three.

1861
01:28:30,293 --> 01:28:33,652
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred

1862
01:28:33,732 --> 01:28:35,492
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth Talk.

1863
01:28:35,372 --> 01:28:38,572
Speaker 2: Said twenty two past three. So have you been married

1864
01:28:38,612 --> 01:28:42,612
Speaker 2: multiple times? And why this is after Mick Fleetwood is

1865
01:28:42,652 --> 01:28:44,452
Speaker 2: on his fifth marriage. So if you can beat that, Oh,

1866
01:28:44,492 --> 01:28:46,972
Speaker 2: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1867
01:28:46,973 --> 01:28:49,612
Speaker 3: A couple of texts coming through on nine to ninety two.

1868
01:28:49,612 --> 01:28:54,093
Speaker 3: But let's go to Craig kidd a Craig and he goes,

1869
01:28:54,093 --> 01:28:56,053
Speaker 3: how we're going very good mate. So what do you

1870
01:28:56,093 --> 01:28:57,812
Speaker 3: reckon about multiple marriages?

1871
01:28:59,572 --> 01:28:59,972
Speaker 21: Oh?

1872
01:29:00,053 --> 01:29:01,532
Speaker 23: I think you know, it's a bit of a shame

1873
01:29:01,532 --> 01:29:06,333
Speaker 23: that people get married multile times and I think it's

1874
01:29:06,333 --> 01:29:08,852
Speaker 23: a bit systemic though in New Zealand with marriage it

1875
01:29:08,933 --> 01:29:12,852
Speaker 23: isn't very common anymore, you know, is the marriage rates

1876
01:29:12,893 --> 01:29:16,333
Speaker 23: that are dipping below divorce rates and that's a real shame.

1877
01:29:18,333 --> 01:29:21,452
Speaker 23: I've been married once before that ended up in a

1878
01:29:21,492 --> 01:29:24,612
Speaker 23: shit situation. I'm now second time married and have two

1879
01:29:24,692 --> 01:29:25,812
Speaker 23: kids and loving life.

1880
01:29:25,853 --> 01:29:26,933
Speaker 6: But I don't know.

1881
01:29:26,973 --> 01:29:31,092
Speaker 23: I think marriages sort have lost its its meaning these days.

1882
01:29:31,293 --> 01:29:32,732
Speaker 23: I don't know about the rest of the world.

1883
01:29:32,492 --> 01:29:35,532
Speaker 4: But definitely New Zealand, as you're said, because obviously your

1884
01:29:35,532 --> 01:29:37,532
Speaker 4: first one, you know, as you said that, they didn't

1885
01:29:37,572 --> 01:29:39,093
Speaker 4: go well. But the second one is that is that

1886
01:29:39,133 --> 01:29:39,972
Speaker 4: one full of meaning?

1887
01:29:40,213 --> 01:29:40,692
Speaker 18: Is that is?

1888
01:29:40,812 --> 01:29:42,532
Speaker 4: Have you nailed it with the second marriage?

1889
01:29:42,612 --> 01:29:42,852
Speaker 3: Great?

1890
01:29:44,293 --> 01:29:48,372
Speaker 23: Absolutely, it's I've got two beautiful sons and we've been

1891
01:29:48,372 --> 01:29:51,972
Speaker 23: married for six years now, and your life's never been better.

1892
01:29:52,013 --> 01:29:55,372
Speaker 23: And I think marriage, I can't speak for anyone else

1893
01:29:55,412 --> 01:29:59,612
Speaker 23: but myself, but I think marriage is to work. You've

1894
01:29:59,652 --> 01:30:02,532
Speaker 23: got to work at it day by day. And the

1895
01:30:02,612 --> 01:30:04,732
Speaker 23: beauty of being with someone for the rest of your

1896
01:30:04,772 --> 01:30:08,692
Speaker 23: life isn't a terrible prospect. It's wonderful. You got your

1897
01:30:08,692 --> 01:30:11,093
Speaker 23: best friend for life, and you've got if if you're

1898
01:30:11,093 --> 01:30:14,092
Speaker 23: blessed enough to have kids by that person, with that person,

1899
01:30:14,492 --> 01:30:15,172
Speaker 23: that makes.

1900
01:30:14,933 --> 01:30:16,372
Speaker 21: It all more merry.

1901
01:30:16,412 --> 01:30:17,652
Speaker 6: I mean, anyone with.

1902
01:30:17,732 --> 01:30:20,333
Speaker 23: Children knows the best time of day is coming home

1903
01:30:20,372 --> 01:30:23,492
Speaker 23: to your kids and to your wife. So I think

1904
01:30:23,652 --> 01:30:27,012
Speaker 23: marriage these days is like I said before, it's lost

1905
01:30:27,093 --> 01:30:32,253
Speaker 23: it's real meaning of what that commitment really is. And

1906
01:30:32,333 --> 01:30:35,173
Speaker 23: people say, oh, you know you can make the same

1907
01:30:35,173 --> 01:30:37,452
Speaker 23: commitment about a piece of paper. Well, no, you can't,

1908
01:30:37,572 --> 01:30:42,372
Speaker 23: and the marriage is different. It's a god given the

1909
01:30:42,612 --> 01:30:44,933
Speaker 23: union of two people, and I think it's something to

1910
01:30:44,973 --> 01:30:49,972
Speaker 23: be cherished and fostered and nurtured. It really is something

1911
01:30:50,013 --> 01:30:52,532
Speaker 23: that the world needs, in my opinion.

1912
01:30:52,692 --> 01:30:55,372
Speaker 4: Were you worried about getting married again after the first

1913
01:30:55,412 --> 01:30:58,772
Speaker 4: marriage not working out, or you just believe in marriage

1914
01:30:59,093 --> 01:31:02,213
Speaker 4: and thought that, you know, I'm always going to go

1915
01:31:02,253 --> 01:31:03,013
Speaker 4: again if I can.

1916
01:31:04,492 --> 01:31:05,173
Speaker 25: Well, I'll tell you.

1917
01:31:05,133 --> 01:31:09,253
Speaker 23: What I in the beginning. My first marriage ended because

1918
01:31:09,293 --> 01:31:13,612
Speaker 23: of Adallas, my excess pat But yes, and initially I

1919
01:31:13,652 --> 01:31:15,852
Speaker 23: was like, oh, I do idea while the getting married again,

1920
01:31:15,893 --> 01:31:18,093
Speaker 23: But you know, it took took time for me to

1921
01:31:18,253 --> 01:31:20,293
Speaker 23: to sort of make the decision and get married. And

1922
01:31:20,973 --> 01:31:24,052
Speaker 23: I would I would gladly do it ten times over

1923
01:31:24,492 --> 01:31:26,333
Speaker 23: with that without a doubt. But like I said, you

1924
01:31:26,333 --> 01:31:30,692
Speaker 23: know you it's it's not something you rush into. You've

1925
01:31:30,692 --> 01:31:34,213
Speaker 23: got to be desperately sure about it. You know, people

1926
01:31:34,213 --> 01:31:38,053
Speaker 23: that get married three four, five, six seven, like that

1927
01:31:38,173 --> 01:31:41,093
Speaker 23: guy you said before thirty one times is mad. But

1928
01:31:41,173 --> 01:31:43,612
Speaker 23: I think part of the reason maybe is because people

1929
01:31:43,652 --> 01:31:47,852
Speaker 23: have gone it to it with the devil. Make care attitude,

1930
01:31:47,893 --> 01:31:48,772
Speaker 23: and I think that's wrong.

1931
01:31:48,853 --> 01:31:50,492
Speaker 4: You know, you I reckon, if you make fleet you

1932
01:31:50,572 --> 01:31:53,133
Speaker 4: might have gone into if you make Fleetwood, you might

1933
01:31:53,133 --> 01:31:57,133
Speaker 4: have gone onto a couple of those ones drunk or

1934
01:31:57,732 --> 01:32:00,253
Speaker 4: under the influence of heavy drug taking.

1935
01:32:00,732 --> 01:32:01,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, highly likely.

1936
01:32:01,692 --> 01:32:04,213
Speaker 4: But the thing is, but what you said before, And

1937
01:32:04,253 --> 01:32:07,053
Speaker 4: I think that this is interesting because observing people, so

1938
01:32:07,412 --> 01:32:09,732
Speaker 4: a lot of people give up marriages and think that

1939
01:32:10,253 --> 01:32:12,932
Speaker 4: a you know, a relationship is going to be perfect

1940
01:32:12,933 --> 01:32:14,932
Speaker 4: and they just need to find the right, perfect person,

1941
01:32:15,253 --> 01:32:18,852
Speaker 4: without realizing that you know, wherever you go that you are,

1942
01:32:19,692 --> 01:32:23,213
Speaker 4: and that every single relationship has a lot of work

1943
01:32:23,293 --> 01:32:26,932
Speaker 4: to make it work and build something. So I think

1944
01:32:26,973 --> 01:32:29,452
Speaker 4: a lot of people cut on marriages and think, oh'll

1945
01:32:29,492 --> 01:32:31,293
Speaker 4: just find a person, everything will be right. I find

1946
01:32:31,293 --> 01:32:33,892
Speaker 4: the right person, But that right person might not exist

1947
01:32:33,933 --> 01:32:35,973
Speaker 4: because you're always going to be in the relationship, so

1948
01:32:36,013 --> 01:32:39,812
Speaker 4: all your problems have always come along. And also, you know,

1949
01:32:40,732 --> 01:32:43,972
Speaker 4: there's probably not not very many people that can get

1950
01:32:43,973 --> 01:32:48,572
Speaker 4: married and just have a completely smooth sailing, no problems

1951
01:32:48,612 --> 01:32:50,853
Speaker 4: relationship that that doesn't need to be worked.

1952
01:32:50,572 --> 01:32:54,293
Speaker 21: On, absolutely right.

1953
01:32:54,372 --> 01:32:56,892
Speaker 23: I think you know there's that saying that the thing

1954
01:32:56,933 --> 01:32:59,573
Speaker 23: is a perfect marriage and there isn't It's like, for example,

1955
01:32:59,692 --> 01:33:02,732
Speaker 23: if you tend to a garden, the garden doesn't start

1956
01:33:02,812 --> 01:33:05,372
Speaker 23: off perfect. It starts off there. You've got big ground,

1957
01:33:05,412 --> 01:33:07,012
Speaker 23: you've got to tend to it. You've got a water,

1958
01:33:07,093 --> 01:33:08,093
Speaker 23: and you've got to care for it.

1959
01:33:08,452 --> 01:33:09,492
Speaker 21: You've got to nourish it.

1960
01:33:09,893 --> 01:33:12,452
Speaker 23: And that's the beauty of a marriage. And you know,

1961
01:33:12,572 --> 01:33:15,772
Speaker 23: there's that cliche saying of you get married to someone,

1962
01:33:15,853 --> 01:33:17,652
Speaker 23: they make you want to be a better person. It's

1963
01:33:17,652 --> 01:33:21,053
Speaker 23: one hundred percent true. It's better to be married to

1964
01:33:21,093 --> 01:33:23,213
Speaker 23: someone to want to be a better person for that

1965
01:33:23,293 --> 01:33:26,572
Speaker 23: person that you love, and thereby you become that better

1966
01:33:26,612 --> 01:33:29,692
Speaker 23: person in the long run. It's better than rather being

1967
01:33:29,772 --> 01:33:32,213
Speaker 23: single and living for yourself. I think marriage is a

1968
01:33:32,213 --> 01:33:36,652
Speaker 23: selfless act. Absolutely. I think being single and not getting

1969
01:33:36,652 --> 01:33:39,372
Speaker 23: married is selfish because you don't really care about that

1970
01:33:39,452 --> 01:33:42,412
Speaker 23: commitment to be with someone until death to your part.

1971
01:33:42,732 --> 01:33:44,812
Speaker 23: And the last thing I want to say is those

1972
01:33:44,893 --> 01:33:47,532
Speaker 23: words till death to your part will sickness and health

1973
01:33:48,173 --> 01:33:52,372
Speaker 23: through bad times and good times. Those words are heavy,

1974
01:33:52,452 --> 01:33:55,612
Speaker 23: heavy words, but it's a beautiful thing. And if you

1975
01:33:55,612 --> 01:33:58,253
Speaker 23: can then relay that to your children, they can have

1976
01:33:58,293 --> 01:34:00,013
Speaker 23: an outlook of class and going. You know what, there

1977
01:34:00,053 --> 01:34:01,893
Speaker 23: will be someone out there for me that's going to

1978
01:34:01,973 --> 01:34:04,133
Speaker 23: make me happier, and I can make that up an

1979
01:34:04,133 --> 01:34:07,333
Speaker 23: other person happy too. So I say, aw for marriage

1980
01:34:07,333 --> 01:34:08,052
Speaker 23: one hundred percent.

1981
01:34:08,492 --> 01:34:08,933
Speaker 4: Get on you.

1982
01:34:09,013 --> 01:34:13,133
Speaker 2: Craig nicely said yeah, I mean, do you agree with Craig.

1983
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:16,692
Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of people listening that won't quite

1984
01:34:16,732 --> 01:34:17,253
Speaker 2: agree with that.

1985
01:34:18,732 --> 01:34:21,412
Speaker 4: This says, Hi. My brother is on marriage number four

1986
01:34:21,452 --> 01:34:24,412
Speaker 4: the reason he's a narcissist and leaves his wife each

1987
01:34:24,452 --> 01:34:27,732
Speaker 4: time he's demoted from her number one interest, eg. When

1988
01:34:27,772 --> 01:34:28,532
Speaker 4: she has a baby.

1989
01:34:30,732 --> 01:34:34,052
Speaker 3: Wow, Oh geez, that's a that's a that's some beggage

1990
01:34:34,093 --> 01:34:34,452
Speaker 3: right there.

1991
01:34:34,893 --> 01:34:37,013
Speaker 4: So if you're not the number one interest, see that,

1992
01:34:37,173 --> 01:34:39,333
Speaker 4: that's not a person that should be married, because you

1993
01:34:39,372 --> 01:34:41,093
Speaker 4: can't go into a marriage and just be like, I

1994
01:34:41,173 --> 01:34:43,532
Speaker 4: want to be the number one interest in all this.

1995
01:34:43,652 --> 01:34:45,692
Speaker 4: I want this marriage. I want it to be all

1996
01:34:45,732 --> 01:34:46,053
Speaker 4: about me.

1997
01:34:47,772 --> 01:34:50,173
Speaker 3: Textbook narcissism, this whole family.

1998
01:34:50,093 --> 01:34:51,692
Speaker 4: That we're having. I want it to be all about

1999
01:34:51,692 --> 01:34:54,173
Speaker 4: me and not about anyone else and not about the kids.

2000
01:34:54,173 --> 01:34:56,293
Speaker 2: Not a good place to start interesting techs here, you

2001
01:34:56,293 --> 01:34:58,093
Speaker 2: get o, guys. I'm on my third marriage. We've been

2002
01:34:58,133 --> 01:35:00,652
Speaker 2: married for five years in June. It's by far my happiest,

2003
01:35:00,732 --> 01:35:02,932
Speaker 2: happiest relationship. He has the breakdown on the other two.

2004
01:35:03,452 --> 01:35:05,253
Speaker 2: Married a very nice man. We were in her early

2005
01:35:05,293 --> 01:35:06,973
Speaker 2: twenties and when he asked, I said, yes, it was

2006
01:35:06,973 --> 01:35:09,772
Speaker 2: what you'd do. It wasn't until later the relationship that

2007
01:35:09,853 --> 01:35:11,812
Speaker 2: I realized I was gay. So we divorced.

2008
01:35:11,933 --> 01:35:13,612
Speaker 3: We were married about a year and a half, married

2009
01:35:13,612 --> 01:35:13,972
Speaker 3: a woman.

2010
01:35:14,333 --> 01:35:17,532
Speaker 2: There were issues in the relationship, but which relationship is perfect.

2011
01:35:17,532 --> 01:35:20,412
Speaker 2: What ultimately ended our relationship was her coming down with

2012
01:35:20,492 --> 01:35:23,532
Speaker 2: a life altering illness, a far out which, while we

2013
01:35:23,532 --> 01:35:26,213
Speaker 2: were struggling with a few other things, our relationship just

2014
01:35:26,253 --> 01:35:28,852
Speaker 2: wasn't strong enough to survive. We were married about two years.

2015
01:35:28,973 --> 01:35:31,933
Speaker 2: Am I the common denominator in these instances, Yes, but

2016
01:35:32,013 --> 01:35:34,492
Speaker 2: as you can see, they were two very different situations.

2017
01:35:34,812 --> 01:35:38,253
Speaker 4: Ah wow, Yeah. I was married at nineteen to the

2018
01:35:38,293 --> 01:35:42,173
Speaker 4: sixer and in July we celebrate our fiftieth wedding and

2019
01:35:42,333 --> 01:35:43,293
Speaker 4: a versery.

2020
01:35:43,452 --> 01:35:45,773
Speaker 3: Congratulations, that's quite beautiful.

2021
01:35:45,933 --> 01:35:47,012
Speaker 4: It's fiftieth platinum.

2022
01:35:47,053 --> 01:35:47,692
Speaker 3: I think it may be.

2023
01:35:47,893 --> 01:35:49,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations, well done.

2024
01:35:49,372 --> 01:35:52,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic now that yeah right, great discussion. Thank you

2025
01:35:52,772 --> 01:35:54,213
Speaker 2: to everybody who called in text on.

2026
01:35:54,213 --> 01:35:58,372
Speaker 4: That's all the best of Fleetwood. Yeah, Max Fleetwood I.

2027
01:35:58,372 --> 01:36:00,852
Speaker 3: Hope it's number five and also Lannie as well it

2028
01:36:00,933 --> 01:36:01,532
Speaker 3: is number six.

2029
01:36:01,652 --> 01:36:03,852
Speaker 4: He's I'm not holding out hope for Larnie's number six.

2030
01:36:03,933 --> 01:36:05,532
Speaker 4: He's already looking around.

2031
01:36:05,732 --> 01:36:08,452
Speaker 2: Will follow up with the Lannis You're already looking around them.

2032
01:36:08,452 --> 01:36:12,612
Speaker 2: Mary Right headlines with Wendy coming up. Then New Zealander

2033
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Speaker 2: of the.

2034
01:36:13,053 --> 01:36:17,852
Speaker 15: Week Youth Talk said b headlines with Your Ride, New

2035
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Speaker 15: Zealand's number one taxi app for download your Ride Today.

2036
01:36:22,013 --> 01:36:25,092
Speaker 15: Rough weather is on the way and cyclone Yanus forecast

2037
01:36:25,133 --> 01:36:28,412
Speaker 15: to be much faster than Gabrielle. There's a strong red

2038
01:36:28,452 --> 01:36:32,412
Speaker 15: warning for Corimandel and Great Barrier Island from five am Sunday,

2039
01:36:32,732 --> 01:36:35,452
Speaker 15: where the Watch says the cyclone's expected to make landfall

2040
01:36:35,492 --> 01:36:38,853
Speaker 15: at midday on Sunday and by Monday will be southeast

2041
01:36:38,893 --> 01:36:42,612
Speaker 15: of Dunedin. Our group has reportedly climbed onto the roof

2042
01:36:42,692 --> 01:36:45,972
Speaker 15: of a youth justice facility in Auckland's Witty. Police say

2043
01:36:45,973 --> 01:36:48,293
Speaker 15: they are on the scene supporting audoing a tomadiki at

2044
01:36:48,293 --> 01:36:51,933
Speaker 15: an address on Kiwitomaki Road. The Prime Minister sees a

2045
01:36:51,973 --> 01:36:55,333
Speaker 15: ceasefire agreement between the US and Iranas fragile as the

2046
01:36:55,372 --> 01:36:58,133
Speaker 15: world waits for a more concrete solution to the war.

2047
01:36:58,692 --> 01:37:01,973
Speaker 15: US Vice President jad Vance will lead an American contingent

2048
01:37:02,053 --> 01:37:06,772
Speaker 15: to Pakistan tonight for further negotiations with Iran. Chrisson says

2049
01:37:06,812 --> 01:37:10,372
Speaker 15: the fact the two sides are meeting is encouraging. A

2050
01:37:10,412 --> 01:37:13,173
Speaker 15: cyclist had died after a collision with a car and

2051
01:37:13,213 --> 01:37:17,132
Speaker 15: Tasman's low Montrey early this afternoon. Police say the cyclist

2052
01:37:17,173 --> 01:37:19,412
Speaker 15: died at the scene at the intersection of Edwards and

2053
01:37:19,532 --> 01:37:23,293
Speaker 15: Central Road. Plus, you can retrain your taste buds and

2054
01:37:23,333 --> 01:37:24,972
Speaker 15: it might take less time than you think.

2055
01:37:25,293 --> 01:37:27,612
Speaker 12: Read more ends at Herald at Premium. Now back to

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01:37:27,652 --> 01:37:28,653
Speaker 12: Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 1: The Mattia than Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

2058
01:37:34,933 --> 01:37:37,293
Speaker 4: Welcome once again to the matd Heath and Tyler Adams

2059
01:37:37,372 --> 01:37:40,772
Speaker 4: Afternoons New Zealander of the Week on News Talk z'b

2060
01:37:41,293 --> 01:37:43,612
Speaker 4: a time to get together as a radio show and

2061
01:37:43,732 --> 01:37:48,932
Speaker 4: award our country for its excellence. As always, three powerful

2062
01:37:49,013 --> 01:37:54,012
Speaker 4: Kiwis shall be honored. So, without further punishing hyperbolic stage setting,

2063
01:37:54,333 --> 01:37:57,893
Speaker 4: let's get stuck in with our first New Zealander.

2064
01:37:57,532 --> 01:38:01,133
Speaker 10: Of the Week, Clad long Away, get a.

2065
01:38:09,253 --> 01:38:12,812
Speaker 4: Thousands of Kiwi schoolgirls shoot hoops every day with big

2066
01:38:12,853 --> 01:38:15,532
Speaker 4: hopes in their hearts, but millions do the same and

2067
01:38:15,572 --> 01:38:18,892
Speaker 4: the good old US survey So a Kiwi lady making

2068
01:38:18,933 --> 01:38:21,612
Speaker 4: a big on the court and the country that invented

2069
01:38:21,652 --> 01:38:25,812
Speaker 4: the sport isn't easy. This week, a Wahina blew the

2070
01:38:25,853 --> 01:38:29,532
Speaker 4: odds away in front of a huge crowd in attendance.

2071
01:38:29,053 --> 01:38:30,412
Speaker 10: And millions watching at home.

2072
01:38:30,853 --> 01:38:34,412
Speaker 4: A UCLA point guard from the waycatdor has become the

2073
01:38:34,612 --> 01:38:39,773
Speaker 4: first New Zealand woman ever to win the NCAA Basketball Championship.

2074
01:38:40,452 --> 01:38:44,013
Speaker 10: Chalis Ledja Walker, You are a New Zealander.

2075
01:38:43,612 --> 01:38:47,732
Speaker 4: Of the Week. Sometimes it takes a little bit of

2076
01:38:47,772 --> 01:38:50,852
Speaker 4: time away to get some perspective on how successful and

2077
01:38:50,973 --> 01:38:54,972
Speaker 4: awesome some Kiwis are. This duo has had eight years off,

2078
01:38:55,013 --> 01:38:56,973
Speaker 4: then out of the blue the announced four shows and

2079
01:38:57,013 --> 01:39:00,333
Speaker 4: they're sold out in minutes. Two Wellington based blokes with

2080
01:39:00,452 --> 01:39:03,412
Speaker 4: guitars who twenty years ago went global with one of

2081
01:39:03,412 --> 01:39:06,892
Speaker 4: the funniest TV shows ever made, and their funny little

2082
01:39:06,893 --> 01:39:08,412
Speaker 4: songs still sell out.

2083
01:39:08,572 --> 01:39:09,932
Speaker 10: All over the planet.

2084
01:39:10,572 --> 01:39:13,293
Speaker 4: Amazingly, they had to watch YouTube clips to remember how

2085
01:39:13,333 --> 01:39:18,452
Speaker 4: to play their own tunes. Business Time, Sugar, lumps Hip Hopopotamus.

2086
01:39:18,572 --> 01:39:19,412
Speaker 10: The heads just.

2087
01:39:19,452 --> 01:39:23,012
Speaker 4: Keep coming ahead of their upcoming Netflix is a joke

2088
01:39:23,133 --> 01:39:26,692
Speaker 4: Festival appearance. Formerly in New Zealand's fourth most popular guitar

2089
01:39:26,772 --> 01:39:30,412
Speaker 4: Bassed did Giebongo, a cappella rap funk comedy folk duo

2090
01:39:30,893 --> 01:39:32,093
Speaker 4: Light of the Concords.

2091
01:39:32,173 --> 01:39:36,493
Speaker 10: You are one of our cylinders of the week.

2092
01:39:39,053 --> 01:39:40,972
Speaker 4: In a world where so many of us have lost

2093
01:39:41,053 --> 01:39:43,652
Speaker 4: control and chosen to doom scroll the best years of

2094
01:39:43,652 --> 01:39:46,652
Speaker 4: our lives away, where so many in our fine nation

2095
01:39:46,732 --> 01:39:50,092
Speaker 4: have become dangerously addicted to the dopening hits from cooked

2096
01:39:50,173 --> 01:39:54,173
Speaker 4: up overseas news rage bait. Well in that world, the

2097
01:39:54,452 --> 01:39:58,812
Speaker 4: MP for Funga Paroa delivered a very important, sobering message

2098
01:39:58,812 --> 01:39:59,253
Speaker 4: this week.

2099
01:39:59,532 --> 01:40:01,492
Speaker 29: I've got a really simple philosophy on this is that

2100
01:40:01,532 --> 01:40:03,933
Speaker 29: we must stay laser focused on the things that we

2101
01:40:04,093 --> 01:40:08,333
Speaker 29: can control and largely monitor what we can't and help.

2102
01:40:08,532 --> 01:40:09,652
Speaker 11: Impact us in the future.

2103
01:40:10,133 --> 01:40:11,532
Speaker 29: And we've got to get on with it. We've got

2104
01:40:11,532 --> 01:40:13,572
Speaker 29: to accept the fact the world has changed. We're a

2105
01:40:13,652 --> 01:40:15,892
Speaker 29: small country in the problem the world, knowing owes us

2106
01:40:15,893 --> 01:40:17,492
Speaker 29: are living. We've got to get on the things and

2107
01:40:17,492 --> 01:40:18,812
Speaker 29: we've got to do the best that we can, and

2108
01:40:19,133 --> 01:40:21,412
Speaker 29: that means focused on the things that we can control

2109
01:40:21,772 --> 01:40:23,972
Speaker 29: and talking about the things that we can do, rather

2110
01:40:24,053 --> 01:40:26,333
Speaker 29: than getting lost in all the new shy of what's

2111
01:40:26,333 --> 01:40:29,253
Speaker 29: happening internationally. The world has changed and it's not going back,

2112
01:40:29,293 --> 01:40:30,772
Speaker 29: and we just got to accept it and get it

2113
01:40:30,812 --> 01:40:31,093
Speaker 29: on it.

2114
01:40:31,452 --> 01:40:33,092
Speaker 4: That's the good stuff. Idere.

2115
01:40:33,612 --> 01:40:35,173
Speaker 10: Imagine what New Zealand could get done.

2116
01:40:35,213 --> 01:40:37,412
Speaker 4: How much better all our lives would be if we

2117
01:40:37,532 --> 01:40:39,933
Speaker 4: cleaned up and spend a bit more time focused on

2118
01:40:40,053 --> 01:40:42,852
Speaker 4: fixing things in front of us, the stuff we actually

2119
01:40:42,853 --> 01:40:44,053
Speaker 4: have the ability.

2120
01:40:43,652 --> 01:40:46,452
Speaker 10: To do something about right now, rather than hooked on

2121
01:40:46,492 --> 01:40:47,852
Speaker 10: the things we can't do.

2122
01:40:49,853 --> 01:40:53,572
Speaker 4: Good about, the horrible Mark Mitchell, you are a New

2123
01:40:53,692 --> 01:40:55,173
Speaker 4: Zealander of the week.

2124
01:40:55,572 --> 01:41:08,892
Speaker 10: Take it away, Sir Howard Morrison, lad.

2125
01:41:09,013 --> 01:41:11,973
Speaker 3: Water Clash, entlemen men range.

2126
01:41:19,173 --> 01:41:20,452
Speaker 12: In La Water.

2127
01:41:21,133 --> 01:41:21,892
Speaker 11: She came.

2128
01:41:25,652 --> 01:42:04,173
Speaker 24: My right, bottle shovedy Maddie and Tyler Adams.

2129
01:42:04,612 --> 01:42:05,692
Speaker 3: Oh how good right?

2130
01:42:05,812 --> 01:42:09,572
Speaker 2: Twenty two to four coming up after the break, Artemis

2131
01:42:09,772 --> 01:42:13,093
Speaker 2: two crew is due for re entry tomorrow New Zealand time.

2132
01:42:13,133 --> 01:42:16,412
Speaker 2: So we're going to catch up with astrophysicist Richard Easter

2133
01:42:16,612 --> 01:42:18,253
Speaker 2: that is coming up very shortly.

2134
01:42:18,732 --> 01:42:20,412
Speaker 3: You listening to Matt and Tyner back in a mow.

2135
01:42:21,053 --> 01:42:24,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.

2136
01:42:24,812 --> 01:42:28,213
Speaker 1: Mad he than Tyler Adams afternoons news talks the'd be.

2137
01:42:28,452 --> 01:42:29,492
Speaker 3: It is nineteen to four.

2138
01:42:29,572 --> 01:42:32,333
Speaker 2: So four astronauts on NASA's Artemists two mission are on

2139
01:42:32,452 --> 01:42:35,652
Speaker 2: their way back home after a dramatic lunar flyby that

2140
01:42:35,772 --> 01:42:38,572
Speaker 2: saw them travel further from Earth than any other humans.

2141
01:42:38,612 --> 01:42:41,372
Speaker 2: Theyre due for re entry tomorrow, New Zealand. Time to

2142
01:42:41,492 --> 01:42:44,412
Speaker 2: talk about the mission's significance. We are joined by Richard Easter,

2143
01:42:44,772 --> 01:42:48,092
Speaker 2: astrophysicist and physics professor at Auckland University.

2144
01:42:48,173 --> 01:42:51,972
Speaker 3: Professor, Good afternoon, Good afternoon, So how.

2145
01:42:51,973 --> 01:42:55,732
Speaker 4: Are the artemist How is the Artemis mission more advanced

2146
01:42:55,772 --> 01:42:56,892
Speaker 4: than the Apollo missions?

2147
01:42:58,372 --> 01:43:02,213
Speaker 28: It's more advanced than the sense that it's obviously using

2148
01:43:02,452 --> 01:43:06,133
Speaker 28: computers and technologies that are fifty years ahead of where

2149
01:43:06,173 --> 01:43:09,013
Speaker 28: Apollo was. But on the other hand, you know, it's

2150
01:43:09,093 --> 01:43:11,412
Speaker 28: using a you know, it looks very similar to the

2151
01:43:11,452 --> 01:43:12,932
Speaker 28: Apollo capsule, but slightly bigger.

2152
01:43:13,173 --> 01:43:15,973
Speaker 2: Yes, So it's been fascinating to watch, Professor, over the

2153
01:43:16,053 --> 01:43:18,612
Speaker 2: last ten days. What are we learning or what is

2154
01:43:18,692 --> 01:43:22,372
Speaker 2: NASA learning from this particular mission and sending those four

2155
01:43:22,452 --> 01:43:23,492
Speaker 2: humans into deep space?

2156
01:43:24,572 --> 01:43:27,972
Speaker 28: Eighty nine percent of what they're trying to do here

2157
01:43:28,173 --> 01:43:30,932
Speaker 28: is to test the technology it's essentially a test flight

2158
01:43:31,253 --> 01:43:34,213
Speaker 28: of the vehicles that they want to use to go

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Speaker 28: back to the Moon on a regular basis. There's been

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Speaker 28: some science done, but that's very much the icing on

2161
01:43:39,412 --> 01:43:40,213
Speaker 28: top of the cake here.

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Speaker 4: So they went further away from Earth than any humans

2163
01:43:44,253 --> 01:43:46,732
Speaker 4: have ever been before. How does that work out? Is

2164
01:43:46,772 --> 01:43:49,213
Speaker 4: it just a different path than any of the Apollos took,

2165
01:43:49,492 --> 01:43:50,972
Speaker 4: or different lineup of the moon?

2166
01:43:51,893 --> 01:43:54,612
Speaker 28: Different slightly different lineup of the moon, slightly different paths.

2167
01:43:54,652 --> 01:43:59,133
Speaker 28: It's not a huge extra distance, and it's partly just

2168
01:43:59,213 --> 01:44:00,892
Speaker 28: the choice of all but that they've used to swing

2169
01:44:00,973 --> 01:44:03,013
Speaker 28: them around the back of the Moon they get. One

2170
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Speaker 28: of the cool things about this vision is or those

2171
01:44:05,253 --> 01:44:07,732
Speaker 28: trip is you got to see a photo of, you know,

2172
01:44:07,853 --> 01:44:09,973
Speaker 28: the backs out of the whole Moon, and that's not

2173
01:44:10,093 --> 01:44:12,652
Speaker 28: something that humanized have kind of been able to take

2174
01:44:12,732 --> 01:44:13,372
Speaker 28: in previously.

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01:44:13,572 --> 01:44:15,933
Speaker 4: The stupidest thing I saw online was someone saying, this

2176
01:44:16,093 --> 01:44:18,812
Speaker 4: is rubbish. What's lighting up the dark side of the moon?

2177
01:44:19,253 --> 01:44:21,692
Speaker 4: So the sun new muppet?

2178
01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:25,293
Speaker 3: Oh that is gold. There's good stuff right there.

2179
01:44:26,372 --> 01:44:27,053
Speaker 11: So yeah, so.

2180
01:44:28,532 --> 01:44:31,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's that. Yes, they thought they've got a

2181
01:44:31,933 --> 01:44:34,692
Speaker 4: real gotcha got you there? So of course it's still

2182
01:44:34,732 --> 01:44:38,133
Speaker 4: got a land, So you know, how dangerous is that

2183
01:44:38,253 --> 01:44:41,412
Speaker 4: part of this setup? How much more to go?

2184
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Speaker 28: I mean, I think that's the that's the in some

2185
01:44:45,093 --> 01:44:48,173
Speaker 28: ways the most dangerous part of all. You know, during

2186
01:44:48,253 --> 01:44:50,973
Speaker 28: the take on the launch, if anything goes wrong with

2187
01:44:51,053 --> 01:44:54,213
Speaker 28: the rocket, that the capsule has this little rocket on

2188
01:44:54,293 --> 01:44:56,452
Speaker 28: top of it that can pull it free, whereas e

2189
01:44:56,452 --> 01:44:59,173
Speaker 28: anything goes wrong during the re entry, then there's no

2190
01:44:59,293 --> 01:45:03,173
Speaker 28: way out. And it is very challenging. They're going to

2191
01:45:03,253 --> 01:45:06,972
Speaker 28: hit that atmosphere faster than any other spacecraft has done before,

2192
01:45:08,013 --> 01:45:10,293
Speaker 28: and they've got to slow down from about forty thousand

2193
01:45:10,333 --> 01:45:13,612
Speaker 28: kilometers an hour to resting in the ocean space of

2194
01:45:13,933 --> 01:45:15,973
Speaker 28: you know, just just a ten or twenty minutes, and

2195
01:45:16,253 --> 01:45:19,852
Speaker 28: that heats the spacecraft enormously, and so the spacecraft has

2196
01:45:19,893 --> 01:45:20,933
Speaker 28: to be protected against that.

2197
01:45:21,293 --> 01:45:23,572
Speaker 4: How much is that automated and how much is it

2198
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:26,053
Speaker 4: slight adjustion adjustments as they come in.

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01:45:26,853 --> 01:45:31,133
Speaker 28: Once it starts, it's they're pretty much that they are

2200
01:45:31,213 --> 01:45:33,053
Speaker 28: not so much automated, but it's you know, it hits

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01:45:33,093 --> 01:45:35,452
Speaker 28: the atmosphere like a rock, and you know, they can

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01:45:35,572 --> 01:45:38,492
Speaker 28: steer it as they come in, but once once their

2203
01:45:38,532 --> 01:45:41,173
Speaker 28: process gets underway, then they're relying on the aerodynamics.

2204
01:45:41,372 --> 01:45:44,052
Speaker 2: It's going to be incredible to watch, so you mentioned before.

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01:45:44,093 --> 01:45:46,093
Speaker 2: You know, obviously a big part of this mission is

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01:45:46,133 --> 01:45:49,133
Speaker 2: testing that technology. Is there a good chunk of it

2207
01:45:49,772 --> 01:45:51,973
Speaker 2: that is also inspiring the public? You know, it's been

2208
01:45:51,973 --> 01:45:54,053
Speaker 2: a long time since we've had humans in space and

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Speaker 2: that imagery you talked about and some of the things

2210
01:45:56,692 --> 01:45:58,852
Speaker 2: that we've heard from the astronauts themselves.

2211
01:45:58,933 --> 01:46:00,213
Speaker 3: Is that a part of a mission likeness?

2212
01:46:01,173 --> 01:46:03,932
Speaker 28: I think it absolutely is. I mean that leans into

2213
01:46:04,013 --> 01:46:06,812
Speaker 28: this very heavily. They talk about the Artemis generation, as

2214
01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:10,052
Speaker 28: you know, the counterpoint to the generation of the nineteen sixties,

2215
01:46:10,692 --> 01:46:13,812
Speaker 28: and I must have made I've been surprised the extent

2216
01:46:13,893 --> 01:46:16,293
Speaker 28: to which, you know, both doing media about this and

2217
01:46:16,452 --> 01:46:18,812
Speaker 28: just talking to people, that this has gone, you know,

2218
01:46:19,173 --> 01:46:21,372
Speaker 28: people's attention and in a positive way, in a way

2219
01:46:21,412 --> 01:46:23,372
Speaker 28: a lot of other things in space does not. So

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01:46:23,452 --> 01:46:24,933
Speaker 28: I think from that point of view, I think I

2221
01:46:24,973 --> 01:46:26,893
Speaker 28: think people are really excited. You know, it seems like

2222
01:46:26,973 --> 01:46:28,213
Speaker 28: this genuine excitement about it.

2223
01:46:28,412 --> 01:46:31,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great seeing people do something constructive rather than destructive.

2224
01:46:32,333 --> 01:46:34,893
Speaker 12: I guess there is that there is that.

2225
01:46:35,372 --> 01:46:38,452
Speaker 4: How does Atomist too, you know, in the Atomist mission

2226
01:46:38,732 --> 01:46:40,492
Speaker 4: help us get us get us to Mars.

2227
01:46:41,893 --> 01:46:44,812
Speaker 28: So, I mean the Mars is a longer duration flight,

2228
01:46:44,933 --> 01:46:48,013
Speaker 28: but it's very much learning about partly. You know, one

2229
01:46:48,053 --> 01:46:49,852
Speaker 28: of the challenges is that they have to rebuild the

2230
01:46:49,933 --> 01:46:52,013
Speaker 28: technology to land on the Moon and so that that's

2231
01:46:52,013 --> 01:46:54,652
Speaker 28: still to be tested, and so obviously when you go

2232
01:46:54,732 --> 01:46:56,333
Speaker 28: to Mars, that's going to be a challenge, to be

2233
01:46:56,333 --> 01:46:58,652
Speaker 28: a bigger challenge landing on Mars than on the Moon

2234
01:46:58,772 --> 01:47:02,052
Speaker 28: because Mars has a stronger gravitational field to work against.

2235
01:47:03,133 --> 01:47:05,253
Speaker 28: But learning how to do that on a regular basis

2236
01:47:05,692 --> 01:47:07,492
Speaker 28: is definitely a key part of going back to Mars.

2237
01:47:07,732 --> 01:47:09,892
Speaker 2: So looking at here to Artemis three, which is scheduled

2238
01:47:09,933 --> 01:47:12,213
Speaker 2: for next year, all going well with the re entry,

2239
01:47:12,333 --> 01:47:15,692
Speaker 2: it seems Professor that you know the the slses they

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Speaker 2: call it the capsule, and the original launch went very

2241
01:47:19,133 --> 01:47:22,572
Speaker 2: well for them, so arguably they'll be looking pretty pleased

2242
01:47:23,013 --> 01:47:24,972
Speaker 2: for a head of Artemiss three project.

2243
01:47:25,812 --> 01:47:28,692
Speaker 28: I think ASA has to be breathing a huge sigh

2244
01:47:28,692 --> 01:47:30,532
Speaker 28: of release on this. I think that's given them trouble.

2245
01:47:30,572 --> 01:47:32,692
Speaker 28: It seems to have been the toilet and those are

2246
01:47:32,772 --> 01:47:35,253
Speaker 28: notoriously misbehaving on spacecraft.

2247
01:47:37,492 --> 01:47:40,812
Speaker 4: Yes, so is Artemis. I mean, this is a difficult

2248
01:47:40,853 --> 01:47:43,572
Speaker 4: question to answer, I guess, but is it primarily science

2249
01:47:44,213 --> 01:47:48,612
Speaker 4: politics or about becoming a multiplanetary species.

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Speaker 28: I think it's primarily in politics. I think the multiplanetary

2251
01:47:52,812 --> 01:47:55,133
Speaker 28: species thing, I would take that with a grain of soult.

2252
01:47:55,173 --> 01:47:59,012
Speaker 28: The ability of people to operate in a self sustaining

2253
01:47:59,093 --> 01:48:01,532
Speaker 28: way in space is a long way into the future.

2254
01:48:01,572 --> 01:48:04,172
Speaker 28: If you think about all of the electronics in the spacecraft,

2255
01:48:04,213 --> 01:48:06,093
Speaker 28: for instance, I mean, that's very likely to be built

2256
01:48:06,093 --> 01:48:10,572
Speaker 28: on the US rather than be recrea in space. It

2257
01:48:10,732 --> 01:48:12,692
Speaker 28: is politics, I mean, there's not too I mean the

2258
01:48:12,772 --> 01:48:16,412
Speaker 28: original politicians were about politics as well, but it is

2259
01:48:16,492 --> 01:48:19,293
Speaker 28: also you know, it is it is something that catches

2260
01:48:19,412 --> 01:48:23,973
Speaker 28: people's imagination and it's it's politics and many things, but

2261
01:48:24,133 --> 01:48:27,932
Speaker 28: it's it's also undeniably cool. I felt like a five

2262
01:48:28,013 --> 01:48:30,092
Speaker 28: year old looking at some of the footage.

2263
01:48:30,893 --> 01:48:33,053
Speaker 4: It filled me full of hope and joy in a

2264
01:48:33,093 --> 01:48:35,173
Speaker 4: way I haven't been for a long time, and it

2265
01:48:35,253 --> 01:48:37,732
Speaker 4: quite surprised me how much I have to be.

2266
01:48:37,812 --> 01:48:40,253
Speaker 28: True, that's exactly, That's exactly what I've heard from a

2267
01:48:40,253 --> 01:48:42,692
Speaker 28: lot of people that they that they had a really

2268
01:48:42,732 --> 01:48:44,692
Speaker 28: positive response to it, and also that it caught them

2269
01:48:44,732 --> 01:48:45,612
Speaker 28: slightly by surprise.

2270
01:48:45,893 --> 01:48:48,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just the live stream element that you know,

2271
01:48:48,772 --> 01:48:50,532
Speaker 2: and I was gripped by that with a NASSA had

2272
01:48:50,532 --> 01:48:52,893
Speaker 2: the live stream, but when they cast into into the

2273
01:48:52,973 --> 01:48:55,173
Speaker 2: crew and then how do we interview with them or

2274
01:48:55,213 --> 01:48:55,892
Speaker 2: how do we laugh?

2275
01:48:56,013 --> 01:48:56,973
Speaker 3: I mean, it's incredible.

2276
01:48:57,053 --> 01:48:59,532
Speaker 2: The fact that they were, you know, almost on the

2277
01:48:59,572 --> 01:49:01,213
Speaker 2: other side of the Moon and they were having a

2278
01:49:01,293 --> 01:49:03,812
Speaker 2: live stream back to Earth that anyone could watch.

2279
01:49:04,412 --> 01:49:05,892
Speaker 3: That is an incredible moment in time.

2280
01:49:06,853 --> 01:49:07,053
Speaker 15: It is.

2281
01:49:07,213 --> 01:49:09,333
Speaker 28: And you know, you compare to the footage from the

2282
01:49:09,532 --> 01:49:11,893
Speaker 28: Polo mission, you know, the live footage that that was

2283
01:49:12,093 --> 01:49:14,612
Speaker 28: super shaky, it was very marginal just getting that at all,

2284
01:49:14,973 --> 01:49:17,253
Speaker 28: whereas this looks like you know that that they're i

2285
01:49:17,293 --> 01:49:20,572
Speaker 28: mean it's literally four K in some cases, and so

2286
01:49:20,732 --> 01:49:23,013
Speaker 28: they're getting this amazing video from space and a much

2287
01:49:23,053 --> 01:49:26,012
Speaker 28: more relaxed true you know that the people are happy,

2288
01:49:26,293 --> 01:49:30,253
Speaker 28: showing human emotions that at the moment, whether you know,

2289
01:49:30,333 --> 01:49:33,173
Speaker 28: the commander identifies a creator that they're going to name

2290
01:49:33,372 --> 01:49:36,972
Speaker 28: an honor is deceased wife. I mean, that's not something

2291
01:49:37,013 --> 01:49:40,052
Speaker 28: that you would have picked up watching the Polo missions

2292
01:49:40,053 --> 01:49:42,333
Speaker 28: in the nineteen sixties. You know that that very kind

2293
01:49:42,372 --> 01:49:46,133
Speaker 28: of straight edge sort of military aviator perspectives, it's not

2294
01:49:46,213 --> 01:49:46,812
Speaker 28: so much with us.

2295
01:49:46,853 --> 01:49:49,492
Speaker 4: That's a good point. And so how far away away

2296
01:49:49,572 --> 01:49:52,133
Speaker 4: from them putting someone on the moon again.

2297
01:49:53,492 --> 01:49:56,772
Speaker 28: So I think the current plan is, it was that

2298
01:49:56,853 --> 01:49:59,253
Speaker 28: Adamas three was going to hopefully land on the Moon,

2299
01:49:59,333 --> 01:50:02,452
Speaker 28: but the latest iteration, I think is that they will

2300
01:50:02,572 --> 01:50:05,692
Speaker 28: test the landers in Earth orbit to check that they

2301
01:50:05,732 --> 01:50:08,093
Speaker 28: could dock and undock, that they can maneuver and so forth.

2302
01:50:08,532 --> 01:50:10,652
Speaker 28: So maybe maybe a couple maybe it looks to be

2303
01:50:10,732 --> 01:50:12,253
Speaker 28: like a couple of years, So it's at this point

2304
01:50:12,293 --> 01:50:12,812
Speaker 28: maybe three.

2305
01:50:13,013 --> 01:50:13,213
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2306
01:50:13,532 --> 01:50:16,133
Speaker 2: And the final question from me, professor, how should we

2307
01:50:16,253 --> 01:50:19,612
Speaker 2: judge whether Artemis is successful? Obviously a successful re entry

2308
01:50:19,692 --> 01:50:21,973
Speaker 2: is a big part of that, but overall, what you know,

2309
01:50:22,253 --> 01:50:25,412
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the success of this particular mission, of.

2310
01:50:25,532 --> 01:50:27,692
Speaker 28: This particular mission, if you know, if they take all

2311
01:50:27,772 --> 01:50:31,013
Speaker 28: the KPIs things that's in the corporate world, think, I

2312
01:50:31,053 --> 01:50:33,812
Speaker 28: think it's a success. It's very much building towards you know,

2313
01:50:33,812 --> 01:50:35,692
Speaker 28: it's very much proving that they can in some ways,

2314
01:50:35,732 --> 01:50:37,932
Speaker 28: they've gone out of their way to make it as

2315
01:50:37,973 --> 01:50:39,852
Speaker 28: simple as possible. And I think if they you know,

2316
01:50:39,893 --> 01:50:42,852
Speaker 28: if they land safely tomorrow, I imagine that NASA will

2317
01:50:42,893 --> 01:50:45,692
Speaker 28: be enormously happy with how this has turned out.

2318
01:50:45,853 --> 01:50:48,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been absolutely incredible to witness. And it's not

2319
01:50:48,572 --> 01:50:50,932
Speaker 2: the end of the Artemis program. But Professor, it's been

2320
01:50:50,973 --> 01:50:52,612
Speaker 2: great chatting with you. Thank you so much for your

2321
01:50:52,612 --> 01:50:53,333
Speaker 2: time this afternoon.

2322
01:50:53,893 --> 01:50:54,492
Speaker 12: It's a pleasure.

2323
01:50:54,853 --> 01:50:57,812
Speaker 2: That is Professor Richard Easter. He is an astrophysicist and

2324
01:50:57,973 --> 01:51:01,412
Speaker 2: physics professor at Auckland University. Fascinating stuff. And that re

2325
01:51:01,652 --> 01:51:05,573
Speaker 2: entry at this stage is eight pm New Zealand time tomorrow.

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01:51:05,732 --> 01:51:08,973
Speaker 2: What a great time to what to re entry Absolutely

2327
01:51:09,173 --> 01:51:11,412
Speaker 2: right back, very shortly. It is nine minutes to four.

2328
01:51:12,253 --> 01:51:15,612
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2329
01:51:15,973 --> 01:51:20,092
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks,

2330
01:51:20,093 --> 01:51:20,372
Speaker 1: it'd be.

2331
01:51:21,173 --> 01:51:24,293
Speaker 4: News talks, it'd be it is seven minutes to four,

2332
01:51:24,933 --> 01:51:27,892
Speaker 4: and that brings us the end of the show. Thanks

2333
01:51:27,933 --> 01:51:30,213
Speaker 4: so much for your calls and texts, and thanks for

2334
01:51:30,372 --> 01:51:33,973
Speaker 4: listening over the last four hours of radio. We've had

2335
01:51:34,013 --> 01:51:34,652
Speaker 4: a great time.

2336
01:51:34,893 --> 01:51:37,612
Speaker 2: We certainly have, and we we get so many great

2337
01:51:37,652 --> 01:51:40,012
Speaker 2: people calling up that each week we pick a caller

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01:51:40,093 --> 01:51:41,812
Speaker 2: of the week. And a few days ago we were

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01:51:41,853 --> 01:51:44,812
Speaker 2: talking about the new TIMU tax and whether that was

2340
01:51:44,893 --> 01:51:48,253
Speaker 2: going to change your TIMU buying ways. When Will gave

2341
01:51:48,372 --> 01:51:50,412
Speaker 2: us a call to share his Timu story, his wife

2342
01:51:50,492 --> 01:51:54,173
Speaker 2: creates a theme table for Easter each year, and they

2343
01:51:54,293 --> 01:51:55,772
Speaker 2: tried to order some fake moss.

2344
01:51:56,372 --> 01:51:58,972
Speaker 7: After she purchased the moss, the better week went by

2345
01:51:59,053 --> 01:52:01,412
Speaker 7: and she thought, I don't think I've ordered enough. I'll

2346
01:52:01,532 --> 01:52:04,572
Speaker 7: ordered some more one day of the ride. Amazingly, it

2347
01:52:04,692 --> 01:52:07,372
Speaker 7: actually wasn't fake moss. What we've got was a bag

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01:52:07,452 --> 01:52:11,012
Speaker 7: of dirt. The bag of dirt did contain moss?

2349
01:52:12,093 --> 01:52:12,692
Speaker 3: Do it ratio?

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01:52:13,532 --> 01:52:18,213
Speaker 7: I think about one to ninety nine. I'm looking at it.

2351
01:52:18,253 --> 01:52:20,012
Speaker 7: I'm thinking right. So I've got a bag of dirt

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01:52:20,053 --> 01:52:22,933
Speaker 7: out of China. I think we might double bag it

2353
01:52:23,293 --> 01:52:25,652
Speaker 7: and I'll ring a biosecurity. He said they'd come around

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01:52:25,652 --> 01:52:27,013
Speaker 7: and pick it up in a few days. The next

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01:52:27,093 --> 01:52:28,893
Speaker 7: door to came in and I thought, we'll get the

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01:52:28,933 --> 01:52:31,133
Speaker 7: fake moss, and we got another bag of dirt. So

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01:52:31,293 --> 01:52:33,692
Speaker 7: double bagged it up again by a security never came

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01:52:33,692 --> 01:52:35,333
Speaker 7: and picked it up. I think a few weeks went

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01:52:35,372 --> 01:52:36,612
Speaker 7: by and I just threw it out in the bin.

2360
01:52:36,772 --> 01:52:38,532
Speaker 7: We do buy a lot of stuff out of team.

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01:52:38,853 --> 01:52:41,212
Speaker 4: Will this processing fee with customs change.

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01:52:41,053 --> 01:52:41,452
Speaker 11: That for you?

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01:52:41,893 --> 01:52:45,932
Speaker 7: Because I'm in Queensland, so I mean, you know, you haven't.

2364
01:52:45,732 --> 01:52:48,293
Speaker 4: Hear stories of people being disappointed with what they get

2365
01:52:48,372 --> 01:52:50,492
Speaker 4: from Timou and how different it looks than what they

2366
01:52:50,572 --> 01:52:53,892
Speaker 4: thought it would be. But a bag of dirt takes

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01:52:53,933 --> 01:52:54,892
Speaker 4: the cake for that, doesn't.

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01:52:54,652 --> 01:52:57,293
Speaker 3: It certainly does. Just a bag of dirt, two bags

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01:52:57,333 --> 01:52:59,413
Speaker 3: of dirt, two begs a dirt with no moss.

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01:52:59,333 --> 01:53:01,372
Speaker 4: And Tyler, would it kill you to share a text

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01:53:01,412 --> 01:53:01,772
Speaker 4: of the week.

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Speaker 3: I can certainly do that for your mat. So we

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Speaker 3: were having a discussion again a couple of days ago

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Speaker 3: about do it, you know, worrying about things that you

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Speaker 3: can control.

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Speaker 2: After Mark Mitchell said that very thing on Mike Costkins program,

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Speaker 2: and this text came in which we thought summed it

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Speaker 2: up very nicely, says Gidda. Guys, as I've grown older,

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Speaker 2: I've come to live more intentionally by a set of

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Speaker 2: guiding beliefs. I've learned that negative energy is deeply draining,

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Speaker 2: while positive energy is genuinely uplifting and sustaining. I no

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Speaker 2: longer feel the need to please everyone, recognizing that disagreements

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Speaker 2: is inevitable and not a reflection of personal failure, and

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Speaker 2: where things fall outside of my control. I've learned not

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Speaker 2: to carry the weight of them. Some things simply cannot

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Speaker 2: be fixed. And that is okay, that's from Troy.

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Speaker 4: Some people blast through meaningful stuff to nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 4: don't they?

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Speaker 3: Heck you all right?

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Speaker 4: The Great and Powerful hitherto Pericilla is up next and

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Speaker 4: up to five. She's live with a member of the

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Speaker 4: White House press pool who was at Milania's explosive Epstein

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Speaker 4: press conference. But right now, Tyler, my good friend, why

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Speaker 4: would I be playing the song by ub forty?

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Speaker 2: What a beautiful version and can't help falling in love?

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Speaker 2: Because we had a great discussion about Mick Fleet words,

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Speaker 2: he can't help falling in love and he can't help

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Speaker 2: get him married for the fifth time.

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Speaker 4: He remarried though, right, so this is on his fifth marriage,

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Speaker 4: fourth person involved?

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Speaker 3: Correct? Yeah, Yeah, what a great discussion that was and

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Speaker 3: what a tune.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We wish him all the best and we'll be back

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Speaker 4: Monday RVO from twelve with more chats. But until then,

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Speaker 4: have a great weekend and give him a taste of

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Speaker 4: Kiwi word don't.

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Speaker 12: You falling in.

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Speaker 4: As a rever empty day that it's a weaker something.

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