1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to this Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:13,293 Speaker 1: from news Talks at bee Ah. 3 00:00:13,413 --> 00:00:15,493 Speaker 2: Thank you for your feedback. A lot of empathy this morning, 4 00:00:15,493 --> 00:00:16,493 Speaker 2: which I really appreciate. 5 00:00:16,573 --> 00:00:16,733 Speaker 3: Jack. 6 00:00:16,813 --> 00:00:19,493 Speaker 2: That's a classic poor you for goodness sake, though it's 7 00:00:19,573 --> 00:00:23,213 Speaker 2: obviously a two's person job. I can't stop laughing Jack, 8 00:00:23,253 --> 00:00:26,373 Speaker 2: good morning. Regarding your bean bag filling, the best way 9 00:00:26,413 --> 00:00:28,893 Speaker 2: is to add a round about a bucket or two 10 00:00:29,013 --> 00:00:33,333 Speaker 2: of foam chips to the beans. Really foam chips. The 11 00:00:33,373 --> 00:00:36,253 Speaker 2: foam check the beans, and it stops the bag from collapsing. 12 00:00:36,493 --> 00:00:38,893 Speaker 2: Having done several of them commercially, we found that it's 13 00:00:38,893 --> 00:00:41,053 Speaker 2: the best solution to fill up your bean bags, says 14 00:00:41,053 --> 00:00:43,893 Speaker 2: Barry from the back paddock. Very good, Jack, I fully relate. 15 00:00:43,973 --> 00:00:47,333 Speaker 2: Bean bag filling is an absolute nightmare. Jack, says Fiona. 16 00:00:47,533 --> 00:00:49,533 Speaker 2: I discovered a trick to take the static out of 17 00:00:49,613 --> 00:00:54,813 Speaker 2: styrene beans. Sprinkle inside the bag some talcum powder. The 18 00:00:54,813 --> 00:00:57,693 Speaker 2: beans no longer stick together and you can pour them easily. 19 00:00:57,973 --> 00:00:59,893 Speaker 2: I'm not sure why it works, but it surely does. 20 00:01:00,733 --> 00:01:03,093 Speaker 2: That's a great little tip. Okay, thank you very much 21 00:01:03,133 --> 00:01:05,253 Speaker 2: for Ona. Thank you Barry, thank you everyone who's flicking 22 00:01:05,253 --> 00:01:06,853 Speaker 2: me in a message not who knows too? Is the 23 00:01:06,853 --> 00:01:09,573 Speaker 2: text number if you want to flick mear text Kevin 24 00:01:09,653 --> 00:01:11,573 Speaker 2: Milt is with us this morning, killed Kevin. 25 00:01:12,253 --> 00:01:14,813 Speaker 3: Great laugh, great laugh. About the bean bags? 26 00:01:16,453 --> 00:01:17,333 Speaker 2: Have you done it before? 27 00:01:18,293 --> 00:01:22,053 Speaker 3: No? No, I haven't. Actually, I don't think when bean 28 00:01:22,093 --> 00:01:25,213 Speaker 3: bags were last fashionable, which is about nineteen sixty, Yeah, 29 00:01:25,893 --> 00:01:27,493 Speaker 3: I don't think I could afford to buy one. 30 00:01:27,653 --> 00:01:30,013 Speaker 2: Oh were they? It was quite a sort of desirable 31 00:01:30,013 --> 00:01:31,893 Speaker 2: item now, I mean the bean bags are pretty I thought, 32 00:01:31,893 --> 00:01:35,453 Speaker 2: well a pretty reasonably priced compared to other households both. 33 00:01:35,493 --> 00:01:37,333 Speaker 3: So yeah, but I had no money back then. 34 00:01:37,533 --> 00:01:38,253 Speaker 2: No fair enough. 35 00:01:40,053 --> 00:01:42,653 Speaker 3: But that is very, very funny, and it sounds like 36 00:01:42,693 --> 00:01:46,253 Speaker 3: a pretty good idea. That's about the what was it 37 00:01:46,333 --> 00:01:47,093 Speaker 3: you put in with them? 38 00:01:47,213 --> 00:01:49,613 Speaker 2: So you put some foam chips in them was one tip. 39 00:01:49,693 --> 00:01:51,133 Speaker 2: The other tip was that you put the tal con 40 00:01:51,173 --> 00:01:53,653 Speaker 2: powder in there, because the problem is they get all staticky, 41 00:01:53,973 --> 00:01:56,013 Speaker 2: and so after I'd managed to pull them all over 42 00:01:56,013 --> 00:01:58,133 Speaker 2: the floor and then all over the kitchen, when you 43 00:01:58,173 --> 00:02:00,533 Speaker 2: go to pick them up, they stick to your hands, 44 00:02:00,573 --> 00:02:03,413 Speaker 2: so you pick them up, and I'm not very dextrous, 45 00:02:03,413 --> 00:02:06,293 Speaker 2: so I'd pick up like five beans at a time 46 00:02:06,653 --> 00:02:09,373 Speaker 2: and then go to transfer them back into the bean bag. 47 00:02:09,573 --> 00:02:12,253 Speaker 2: But as I released them to get them to go 48 00:02:12,293 --> 00:02:14,933 Speaker 2: into the bean bag, they just stick to my hands. God, 49 00:02:14,973 --> 00:02:17,133 Speaker 2: it was so it was it was it was like 50 00:02:17,333 --> 00:02:19,213 Speaker 2: it was a comedy of erarors. And it was one 51 00:02:19,253 --> 00:02:21,173 Speaker 2: of those things where I just I know, I'm terrible 52 00:02:21,173 --> 00:02:22,733 Speaker 2: at stuff like that, so I don't know why I 53 00:02:22,813 --> 00:02:25,333 Speaker 2: even tried to tackle it. But I'll tell you what 54 00:02:25,373 --> 00:02:28,533 Speaker 2: made the made the time pass a little more easily 55 00:02:29,093 --> 00:02:32,053 Speaker 2: was running some podcasts on my phone while I was 56 00:02:32,093 --> 00:02:34,533 Speaker 2: doing it, so I could stratch from the menial task. 57 00:02:34,573 --> 00:02:36,933 Speaker 2: And that's something you've become rather passionate about, Kevin. 58 00:02:37,493 --> 00:02:40,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack, I love talk shows and interview programs. I 59 00:02:40,893 --> 00:02:42,973 Speaker 3: always have. I wish there was a Key Wee talk 60 00:02:43,053 --> 00:02:46,333 Speaker 3: show on New Zealand TV. I mean, you do longish 61 00:02:46,373 --> 00:02:50,733 Speaker 3: interviews on Q and A. But I'm thinking outside of politics, right. Yeah. 62 00:02:50,933 --> 00:02:52,573 Speaker 3: One of my sons asked me a week or two 63 00:02:52,573 --> 00:02:56,053 Speaker 3: ago whether i'd listened to you being interviewed a couple 64 00:02:56,093 --> 00:02:58,733 Speaker 3: of years ago. I think it was on the Between 65 00:02:58,933 --> 00:03:04,213 Speaker 3: two Beers radio podcast. Yeah yeah, and between the Between 66 00:03:04,253 --> 00:03:07,173 Speaker 3: two Beers podcasts I think has been going for a 67 00:03:07,173 --> 00:03:09,853 Speaker 3: couple of years now, But I had never heard of it. 68 00:03:10,173 --> 00:03:13,613 Speaker 3: You know, I'm of a generation really that don't are 69 00:03:13,613 --> 00:03:17,293 Speaker 3: not quite really into a podcasts. I think they're actually 70 00:03:17,413 --> 00:03:20,813 Speaker 3: videoing the podcast and now say you can see them 71 00:03:20,813 --> 00:03:25,493 Speaker 3: on YouTube as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, this week 72 00:03:25,533 --> 00:03:29,973 Speaker 3: I listened to you being interviewed all two hours of it, right, 73 00:03:30,253 --> 00:03:30,933 Speaker 3: is it right? Yeah? 74 00:03:30,973 --> 00:03:32,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's quite a long interview. 75 00:03:32,453 --> 00:03:35,093 Speaker 3: I mean, that's there's a hell of a long interview. 76 00:03:35,453 --> 00:03:38,573 Speaker 3: I found it really interesting. I feel I know you 77 00:03:38,733 --> 00:03:42,773 Speaker 3: twice as well. Now two hours may seem a long time, 78 00:03:42,853 --> 00:03:46,973 Speaker 3: but time flu What is it like to be interviewed 79 00:03:47,053 --> 00:03:49,373 Speaker 3: for that long by two interviewers? 80 00:03:49,453 --> 00:03:52,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I really really enjoyed the experience because 81 00:03:52,693 --> 00:03:55,653 Speaker 2: they're really there's such thoughtful guys, the two hosts of 82 00:03:55,733 --> 00:03:59,493 Speaker 2: Between two Bers. They're really thoughtful, lovely, you know, inquisitive, 83 00:03:59,533 --> 00:04:02,813 Speaker 2: but quite funny and gentle guys. And yeah, I mean, 84 00:04:03,453 --> 00:04:07,613 Speaker 2: you know, dare I say, I'm probably like you know, 85 00:04:07,853 --> 00:04:11,333 Speaker 2: a few of us in our industry love talking about ourselves. 86 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:14,173 Speaker 2: Given so two hours talking about yourself and it seems 87 00:04:14,173 --> 00:04:14,733 Speaker 2: to fly by. 88 00:04:15,653 --> 00:04:17,773 Speaker 3: Oh yes, well I thought it was really good. In 89 00:04:17,853 --> 00:04:22,853 Speaker 3: credit for the Between two Bears podcast has to go 90 00:04:22,893 --> 00:04:27,693 Speaker 3: to these As you said, these two excellent interviewers, Stephen 91 00:04:27,733 --> 00:04:30,693 Speaker 3: Holloway and Seamus Martin. Yeah, a lot of older New 92 00:04:30,773 --> 00:04:33,373 Speaker 3: Zealanders won't heard of won't have heard of these guys. 93 00:04:33,693 --> 00:04:36,813 Speaker 3: Their research is superb and the main thing is they 94 00:04:36,853 --> 00:04:39,133 Speaker 3: know when to shut up and let the interview e 95 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:42,333 Speaker 3: tell their story. Their interviews said to have a sort 96 00:04:42,373 --> 00:04:45,653 Speaker 3: of sporting twist of them, though not all of them. 97 00:04:45,973 --> 00:04:48,693 Speaker 3: My son told me not to miss their interview with 98 00:04:48,813 --> 00:04:52,613 Speaker 3: Mark Stafford. All I knew of Mark Stafford was he 99 00:04:52,733 --> 00:04:55,653 Speaker 3: used to be the tabs guy giving us the odds 100 00:04:55,693 --> 00:04:58,933 Speaker 3: from the sideline at big rugby matches. I've got to 101 00:04:59,053 --> 00:05:03,173 Speaker 3: say I reckon The between two Beers interview with Mark 102 00:05:03,253 --> 00:05:07,733 Speaker 3: Stafford is the most extraordinary interview I've heard in years. 103 00:05:08,453 --> 00:05:11,093 Speaker 3: If you thought Mark was just that smiling guy who 104 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:14,293 Speaker 3: told you the odds, you couldn't be more wrong. This 105 00:05:14,453 --> 00:05:18,493 Speaker 3: interview was one hour long, but packed with so many 106 00:05:18,693 --> 00:05:22,653 Speaker 3: astounding life stories from Mark. I don't know Mark at all. 107 00:05:23,373 --> 00:05:29,453 Speaker 3: Every revelation was astonishing and sometimes bitterly sad. Yeah, you 108 00:05:29,493 --> 00:05:31,693 Speaker 3: will have heard that interview if you listen to that one. 109 00:05:31,773 --> 00:05:33,493 Speaker 2: No, I haven't yet, but that sounds like a really 110 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:35,133 Speaker 2: good one. I know Mark a bit, so that'll be 111 00:05:35,173 --> 00:05:36,173 Speaker 2: that'd be a great one to go on. 112 00:05:36,853 --> 00:05:39,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's unbelievable. You know a lot of old 113 00:05:39,813 --> 00:05:44,853 Speaker 3: broadcasters complained that the days of quality interviews interviews sort 114 00:05:44,893 --> 00:05:47,613 Speaker 3: of went out the door with Brian Edwards and Ian 115 00:05:47,773 --> 00:05:51,493 Speaker 3: Fraser and now Kim Hill. I can only urge them 116 00:05:51,893 --> 00:05:56,413 Speaker 3: to find the Between Two Beers podcasts and first listen 117 00:05:56,493 --> 00:06:00,773 Speaker 3: to the Mark Stafford interview. It's gold. Yeah, then have 118 00:06:01,053 --> 00:06:04,653 Speaker 3: listened to some of the others. They're absolutely first class, 119 00:06:04,693 --> 00:06:06,133 Speaker 3: including the interview with you Jack. 120 00:06:06,493 --> 00:06:10,013 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thanks, Kevin. I agree, I mean they are that. 121 00:06:10,173 --> 00:06:13,373 Speaker 2: They are extraordinary interviews. And it's funny. I often think 122 00:06:13,373 --> 00:06:17,333 Speaker 2: about the ways we consume media going in two directions, 123 00:06:17,333 --> 00:06:20,213 Speaker 2: because you know, we always talk about TikTok and Instagram 124 00:06:20,253 --> 00:06:23,093 Speaker 2: and how people have really short attention spans, But I 125 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:26,933 Speaker 2: actually think that similarly, it's going in the other direction 126 00:06:27,013 --> 00:06:31,053 Speaker 2: as well. There's a real appreciation for in depth, really thoughtful, 127 00:06:31,373 --> 00:06:35,333 Speaker 2: long form conversations, and that's what podcasts allows, you know, 128 00:06:35,413 --> 00:06:38,053 Speaker 2: that they allow those really big and you can be 129 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:41,493 Speaker 2: doing something like filling your bean bag, wiling away a 130 00:06:41,493 --> 00:06:44,133 Speaker 2: couple of hours and listening to it and it's absolutely fantastic. 131 00:06:45,373 --> 00:06:47,733 Speaker 3: I thought it was extraordinary. And you know all about 132 00:06:47,773 --> 00:06:51,453 Speaker 3: these things because you're your age. I'm mine. I urge 133 00:06:51,493 --> 00:06:55,773 Speaker 3: people my age to start giving these long form interviews 134 00:06:56,293 --> 00:06:56,773 Speaker 3: a listen. 135 00:06:56,893 --> 00:07:01,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. It's a really good piece of advice there. 136 00:07:01,053 --> 00:07:03,213 Speaker 2: If you want to listen to Between two Beers, you 137 00:07:03,213 --> 00:07:06,773 Speaker 2: can find it on iHeartRadio. So just search Between two 138 00:07:06,813 --> 00:07:09,613 Speaker 2: Beers on iHeartRadio and you'll be able to find it. 139 00:07:09,853 --> 00:07:12,173 Speaker 2: And there are lots of other podcast options as well. 140 00:07:12,493 --> 00:07:14,613 Speaker 2: You can you can kind of listen to them on demand, 141 00:07:14,653 --> 00:07:15,853 Speaker 2: so you can just pick it and you can go 142 00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:18,813 Speaker 2: back through the old catalog, the whole catalog of different 143 00:07:18,813 --> 00:07:21,373 Speaker 2: interviews they've done over the years. It's superb, So thank 144 00:07:21,373 --> 00:07:22,933 Speaker 2: you very much for that, Kevin. We'll make sure we've 145 00:07:22,933 --> 00:07:26,413 Speaker 2: got a link up on our website newstalk SDB dot 146 00:07:26,413 --> 00:07:29,253 Speaker 2: co dot inded Ford slash Jack so that you can 147 00:07:29,453 --> 00:07:32,053 Speaker 2: navigate your way through to those podcasts. 148 00:07:32,813 --> 00:07:35,933 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 149 00:07:36,013 --> 00:07:39,173 Speaker 1: to News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow 150 00:07:39,213 --> 00:07:40,813 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.