WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: January 26, 2025

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when the dog is too old to bar, and.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're sitting at the table trying not to start,

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<v Speaker 3>the house scissor home, even when Wilma band gone, even

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<v Speaker 3>when you're there alone, ale house is a hole, even

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<v Speaker 3>when those ghost even when you got around from the

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<v Speaker 3>ones you love your most, you scream, dose, broken plaints,

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<v Speaker 3>feeling from the wood locals wisper when they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>leave the neighbor. The house snizz a hole, even when

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<v Speaker 3>Wilba band, when you're loon.

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<v Speaker 2>And a very very good morning to you. Welcome along

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<v Speaker 2>to the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me people

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<v Speaker 2>wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and this is the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to talk all things building and construction. So if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a project that's underweight, it might be an ultration,

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<v Speaker 2>it might be a renovation, it might be an addition,

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<v Speaker 2>it might be a new build. It might just be

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<v Speaker 2>some good old fashioned maintenance that you're doing around your

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<v Speaker 2>place and you've got a question about it. Whether that's

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<v Speaker 2>around gosh, could be around the regulations, could be around

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<v Speaker 2>the products that you use. It could be around the

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<v Speaker 2>tools that you use and the gear that you need

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<v Speaker 2>to get the job done. It might be around the

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<v Speaker 2>like I say, the regulations, the contractors, the materials, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is that relates to building and construction and your place.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about it this morning on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>So a very good morning. Nice to be back in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio here in Auckland. If you were tuned in

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<v Speaker 2>last week, I was down and told on it, which

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<v Speaker 2>was fabulous and great to be broadcasting out of another studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to be back in Auckland. A little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a miserable day, and I'll see if we get some

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<v Speaker 2>more information about the power outage at Munga Fi. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it is where some three thousand houses without power

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<v Speaker 2>in the possibility of there being a small tornado. If

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<v Speaker 2>you know anything about that, feel free to give us

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more detail. And I mean it is

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<v Speaker 2>days like this that you go ah, that's the reason

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<v Speaker 2>that I wander around and make sure that the drains

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<v Speaker 2>are clean and the spoutings working, and the downpipes are

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<v Speaker 2>actually connected to the storm water, and the windows have

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<v Speaker 2>got latches on them that keep them closed. If I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this the other day, I got a call from

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<v Speaker 2>a mate going, look, could you just do you have

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<v Speaker 2>any plywood? And it was a property that they look

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<v Speaker 2>after where with the high winds early in January, it

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<v Speaker 2>literally just popped the bifold doors open, smashed them to pieces,

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<v Speaker 2>glass all over the place and a great b opening

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<v Speaker 2>smack bang in the middle of the public holidays. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the little things often make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tell a story often when I'm doing public

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<v Speaker 2>speaking about a window that fell out just because someone

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<v Speaker 2>had you know, like, oh, I must get round to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I must get round to that. I must get round

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<v Speaker 2>to it. So if you've got a job that you're thinking, gee,

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<v Speaker 2>I must get round to that. But I'm not quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure where to start. We can talk about that on

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<v Speaker 2>the program this morning as well. Oh, eight hundred eighty

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<v Speaker 2>ten eighty is the number. Nine two nine two is

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<v Speaker 2>the text if you'd like to send me a text,

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<v Speaker 2>just like Felicity just has, and if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>email me, that's a doable thing as well. That is

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<v Speaker 2>Pete atnewstalk zb dot co dot nz. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>things coming up on the show today, prompted by a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation which I was really intrigued by. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued by all of our conversations, but one stood

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<v Speaker 2>out to me from a couple of weeks ago where

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<v Speaker 2>a caller said, look, I bought a house, discovered that

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<v Speaker 2>there were some problems with the house, discover that the

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<v Speaker 2>previous owner knew about them but failed to declare them

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<v Speaker 2>in the sale and purchase, went through the disputes tribunal,

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<v Speaker 2>and got it might have been twenty or thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars from the excuse me, from the vendor from the

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<v Speaker 2>previous owner of the property, some two years after the

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<v Speaker 2>sale and purchase. Now, that was a little bit intriguing

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and so during the course of this week,

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<v Speaker 2>I rang a guy that I've gone to for sort

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<v Speaker 2>of real estate advice on a number of occasions because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a real estate agent. He's a very good real

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<v Speaker 2>estate agent, Wayne McGuire. We had a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>chat and I said, look, I think this is something

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<v Speaker 2>we could talk about on the radio. So he's coming

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<v Speaker 2>in just after eight o'clock this morning, Wayne McGuire, who

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<v Speaker 2>was a Ray White's real estate agent and agency owner,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about exactly that. And it's really around there'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a whole lot of things we want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>but in particular, when you're going to sell a house,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you as the vendor need to declare because

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<v Speaker 2>it's there in the contracts and there's an opportunity. We

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<v Speaker 2>had some texts last week about this, where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people were sort of like, well, if I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>am I okay? If I genuinely don't know that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem with the house because I'm not a building expert.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a homeowner selling a house, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>that becomes a problem later on. So we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>all of that subtlety around what you have to declare,

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<v Speaker 2>what you have to know, et cetera, et cetera, with

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne Maguire from Ray White's Realty at just after eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be fair, if you've got a text question

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<v Speaker 2>on that, feel free to fire them through and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>stack them up and we'll see if Wayne can deal

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<v Speaker 2>with a couple of those questions too. But we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be very specific. It's really about what you

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<v Speaker 2>have to declare, what is reasonable that you should know,

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<v Speaker 2>and who determines that. So we'll talk about all of

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<v Speaker 2>those things after eight o'clock. But right now it is

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<v Speaker 2>your opportunity to talk all things building and construction. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the Upper North Island, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>wet and wild. Not so much rain last night seemingly,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of wind. And when the rain did

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<v Speaker 2>come through. Had some friends who went off to opera

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<v Speaker 2>in the park out at Glover Park and Saint Helier's.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they got about halfway through that and then

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<v Speaker 2>the organizers said, look, it's just not practical and safe

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<v Speaker 2>to continue. So weather impacting our events. So yeah, and gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching too that storm that's rolling through Northern Ireland, Scotland,

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<v Speaker 2>parts of the UK, you know, watching roofs peel off buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>I was intrigued by one which looked like a relatively

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<v Speaker 2>new build, you know, lots of glass, lots of steel,

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<v Speaker 2>big overhang and the entire roof just got peeled off,

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<v Speaker 2>what like a reasonably new build. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things as a contractor when you're there going why do

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<v Speaker 2>I have to put in all these brackets? Why do

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<v Speaker 2>I have to put in all these extra screws? Why

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<v Speaker 2>am I you know, out of da Well that's why

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<v Speaker 2>basically it stops stuff getting torn apart in extreme weather events,

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<v Speaker 2>which to be fair not so extreme these days, we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting them more and more. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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<v Speaker 2>is the number to call open line on all things

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<v Speaker 2>building and construction. Coming up fourteen minutes after six call

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<v Speaker 2>us now eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll come to

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of texts in just a moment, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you've a great time to call, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a guest from eight o'clock, so it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a little bit busy. We're into the garden with

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<v Speaker 2>Redklin past. I've had a couple of correspondences with rud

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<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of days, mainly me sending him

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of myself, my wife and our son at Wingspan.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went there. If you were listening to Sean Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>we were on our way down to Rotrue and then

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things we wanted to do there was

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<v Speaker 2>head out and a two wingspan, which we did on

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<v Speaker 2>the Monday, beautiful day there. As it happens, it was

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<v Speaker 2>actually closed, but Ennica, the manager came out she was

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<v Speaker 2>working anyway, opened the gates. We went in and had

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<v Speaker 2>some time with the falcons which are amazing and with

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<v Speaker 2>the little ruru and saw the work that they do

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<v Speaker 2>and the space that they're creating. It was absolutely fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I said what was I thinking about? Yes ah,

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<v Speaker 2>And then just by the bike, if you happen to

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<v Speaker 2>be watching the Block Australia like I am, and our

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<v Speaker 2>family is there, I was happily watching away looking at

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<v Speaker 2>out door week thinking oh, that's right, that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>was over there. This was back in May of last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I shot over for two nights, stayed at Phillip Island,

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<v Speaker 2>had a day and a bit of a day, and

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<v Speaker 2>the next day on site at the block and there

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<v Speaker 2>I am standing in the back of the shot. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was a bit of a laugh, rightiot, Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 2>the number to call. Texts come through morning peat. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a nineteen twenties villa and one of the windows

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<v Speaker 2>has started to rot and the glass is slipping down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the only one that has this problem. When it's fixed,

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<v Speaker 2>it has to match the rest of the house. A

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<v Speaker 2>woman in my early fifties, not sure how to start

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<v Speaker 2>about getting it fixed before winter. Many thanks, from Felicity.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't send this last week, but hopefully the email with

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<v Speaker 2>the pictures will come through. Haven't seen it, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>check that out in just a moment. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a reasonable amount of decay in the window if

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<v Speaker 2>the glass is starting to slip out. So I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that the mortise and tenin that holds in the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>rail of your in the sash has actually started to rot,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's dropping down, and then the glass is dropping down.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be possible just to remove the entire sash,

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<v Speaker 2>remove the rot, or cut out some of the rot,

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<v Speaker 2>fix a piece of tantalized timber into there, and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just slide the glass back into place. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>have to do a little bit of reputtying and repair

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<v Speaker 2>it on site. It might be that it's that bad

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<v Speaker 2>that the entire sash needs replacing, in which case you're

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<v Speaker 2>better off going to a local joiner, a timber joiner

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<v Speaker 2>who specializes obviously in making timber joinery and wooden sashes.

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<v Speaker 2>They could remake a sash based on the one that

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<v Speaker 2>you've got. Then it's a question of getting someone to

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<v Speaker 2>come and hang it, which might be someone in the factory,

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<v Speaker 2>but often they've got exterior contractors, external contractors rather who

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<v Speaker 2>can come out and do that sort of work for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is quite the process because obviously the sash

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<v Speaker 2>is made, it needs to be primed, it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be painted, possibly new glazing installed, hinges installed fitted, and

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<v Speaker 2>that can be quite a process, and then hardware reinstalled

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<v Speaker 2>and a top coat of paint applied to it. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit of work in that, but it

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<v Speaker 2>can be done. So I think the next porter call

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<v Speaker 2>is probably going to be a joiner or a good

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<v Speaker 2>what we call a jobbing carpenter. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a common word anymore, but it's a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>carpenter that specializes in not so much odd jobs, but

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<v Speaker 2>just these small maintenance tasks and typically someone with a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of experience who might be able to do the

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<v Speaker 2>job on site. Take the sash out, make the repair,

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<v Speaker 2>fetch in a new piece of timber, put it all

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<v Speaker 2>back together again, give it a coat of paint. Job done,

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<v Speaker 2>replace the hinges, maybe redo the hardware. Job done. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what you need to do. Oh eight one hundred eighty

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<v Speaker 2>ten eighty this is the number to call. The text

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<v Speaker 2>from Shane. There's apparently some changes. The district plan in

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<v Speaker 2>Northland requires all driveways to be sealed for the restriction

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<v Speaker 2>of dust. Goodness me this now excludes permeable driveways like paving,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's permeable as a specifically designed to be permeable.

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<v Speaker 2>I presume one issue big flooding risk. Too many homes

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<v Speaker 2>with metal drives will now need to concrete a building

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<v Speaker 2>work consents on site are required for anything. Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if there's a limit as in the length

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And imagine if you're in a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a more rural area. And I'm just thinking about a

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<v Speaker 2>place that we did many years ago where the driveway

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<v Speaker 2>would have been the better part of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>probably would have been close to one hundred meters long.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know eventually the owners did many years later

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<v Speaker 2>get it concreted, but for a long time it was

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<v Speaker 2>basically just metal. In fact, it was tailings that we

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<v Speaker 2>got from Ashveldt that we had run in and that

0:12:45.775 --> 0:12:50.015
<v Speaker 2>we could compact down. It actually bound together really quite well.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great for us when we were building the property,

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<v Speaker 2>but it lasted for a number of years after. So

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<v Speaker 2>gee that it's going to add a bit of expense.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be a good time to be a concrete

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<v Speaker 2>contractor in the far North. If you've got a comment,

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred eighty ten eighty, it's the number to call.

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<v Speaker 2>It is coming up twenty three and a half minutes

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<v Speaker 2>after six. Again reminder, Wayne Maguire from Ray White's Realty

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<v Speaker 2>is going to join me in the studio just after

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<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock to talk about this really interesting idea or

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<v Speaker 2>not interesting it's I was really intrigued by the call

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago where someone said, look, I've

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<v Speaker 2>managed to take essentially a case through the disputes tribunal

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<v Speaker 2>and have won some money twenty thousand dollars. I think

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<v Speaker 2>from memory from the previous owner of the house that

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<v Speaker 2>we've just purchased because they failed to declare in their

0:13:44.815 --> 0:13:48.655
<v Speaker 2>sale and purchase agreement's something that we could prove that

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<v Speaker 2>they knew about in terms of a building defects. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about sale and purchase contracts, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what duty you might have as a vendor

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<v Speaker 2>to declare information about the house, particularly if there might

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<v Speaker 2>have been an issue. And I'll make a little note.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the most glory this day of puttering yesterday,

0:14:09.775 --> 0:14:13.255
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was. It was a spectacularly happy day

0:14:13.335 --> 0:14:16.015
<v Speaker 2>for me puttering. I'm going to write down the list

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<v Speaker 2>of all of the little jobs that I got done,

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<v Speaker 2>and you will be amazed. I was amazed when I

0:14:22.535 --> 0:14:25.375
<v Speaker 2>finally wrapped up at about six thirty last night. It was

0:14:25.415 --> 0:14:28.135
<v Speaker 2>a fabulous day. Anyway, we'll talk about puttering but later

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty

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<v Speaker 2>the number to call Andrea A very good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, Pete, Good morning Kate. I had a new

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<v Speaker 4>build built next to my home, Yes, And when the contractors,

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<v Speaker 4>the concrete guys came in to labor concrete, the degas

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<v Speaker 4>hit my seeds in two or three paces, yes, And

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<v Speaker 4>I spoke to one of them and said to her that, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you've just popped my seeds, and he said I'll come

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<v Speaker 4>over and see. He never returned at all, so I've

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<v Speaker 4>got photos that never think of it. But anyhow, the

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<v Speaker 4>owner at the time was away overseas, and since he's

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<v Speaker 4>come back, I spoken to him. So they builders that

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<v Speaker 4>the actual builders came back and nailed one piece of

0:15:17.855 --> 0:15:23.055
<v Speaker 4>iron on it right, touched the ravings or any sake

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<v Speaker 4>they are the bottom railings, most of them. With the

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<v Speaker 4>owner and I spoke, he said, Oh, I'm just so

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<v Speaker 4>sick of the whole lot. I just wanted to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of it all. I don't want to have anything

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<v Speaker 4>to do with them. So what do I do? As

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<v Speaker 4>the owners on the concrete people?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean, look, I guess there's a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a hierarchy, isn't it. There's the person that

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<v Speaker 2>did the damage, which might be the individual contractor. If

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of can't be bothered, then you would go

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<v Speaker 2>to the person that paid the bills for that contractor,

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<v Speaker 2>which is probably the owner of the property. And even

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<v Speaker 2>if the owner of the property is now sick of

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<v Speaker 2>the contractors, and to be fair, that's not uncommon, they

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<v Speaker 2>still have a responsibility, I would have thought. And even

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<v Speaker 2>if they're sick of the contractors, doesn't mean that they

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<v Speaker 2>can absolve themselves in my mind, of their responsibility. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think, if you've got photographs of the damage, do

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<v Speaker 2>you have, by any chance photographs of the fence in

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<v Speaker 2>its original state?

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<v Speaker 4>No, that you can compare it to No. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>that the fence is about twenty five years but I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it's iron, and there was nothing wrong with it before,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, I just because it's not to see

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<v Speaker 4>that I've got to be worrying because of the railings

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<v Speaker 4>all my side of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where it gets really difficult is enforcing it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it's quite clear that the person

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<v Speaker 2>has a responsibility probably legal but more import moral responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>to repair damage.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You cause the damage, you fix it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to be you might even end up just writing to

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<v Speaker 2>them and saying, look, I understand that you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with it. I've had an estimate from

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<v Speaker 2>a local builder to repair it. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred bucks. Please pay that and that's the end

0:17:26.415 --> 0:17:29.055
<v Speaker 2>of it. And you know, if they were the owner

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<v Speaker 2>of the property, they'd probably accept that and just go look,

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<v Speaker 2>I just need to get this gone. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't reply, if they're not civic, I suppose

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<v Speaker 2>they're in their approach. The really hard thing is how

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<v Speaker 2>do you enforce it? Do you make a claim for

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<v Speaker 2>damages through the disputes tribunal And chances are what would

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<v Speaker 2>happen is you could go to the dispute tribunal say

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<v Speaker 2>that look, i've had this dispute with my neighbor who's

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<v Speaker 2>unwilling to make reparations for the damage that they've caused.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll get a date, you'll turn up, they won't turn up.

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<v Speaker 2>The referee at the disp tried to bunal will find

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<v Speaker 2>in your favor, which they typically do if somebody doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>turn up. And then but then you've got something that

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<v Speaker 2>you can enforce through the district court, right, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>quite useful. So I think if if you can't convince

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<v Speaker 2>the person to do the right thing, then dispute tribunal

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<v Speaker 2>is probably where you want to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, so you think that the best thing would be

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<v Speaker 4>better to best to get a contractor and then give

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<v Speaker 4>me an estimation about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that'd be a really good way of doing

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<v Speaker 2>it as well. You know, that's that's if you know

0:18:41.735 --> 0:18:45.055
<v Speaker 2>someone and they're okay to just pop out and say, okay, well,

0:18:45.055 --> 0:18:48.735
<v Speaker 2>look there's three rails that are broken that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this much material. It's going to take me a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of hours to do. Here's an estimate for the repair.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you can go to the owner of the property.

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<v Speaker 2>Has the owner of the property sold the property, Have

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<v Speaker 2>they done it as a development?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, right? So damaged.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, but the house that's been built next year, is

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<v Speaker 2>it just one house or is it several houses? Just

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<v Speaker 2>one house? So the person that got the builders in

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<v Speaker 2>is the person who's going to live in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to become your neighbor. Okay, should make it

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<v Speaker 2>a bit easier. I mean you'd think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to be neighbors, they'd want to do

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, well he wasn't a nasty or anything about it.

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<v Speaker 4>He just sort of said he was sick of all

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<v Speaker 4>the things.

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<v Speaker 1>That have got wrong, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But to be blunt, that's his problem, not yours, true,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like, you know, almost all

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<v Speaker 2>clients are sick of their builders by the time we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to the end of the project, right, you know,

0:19:51.975 --> 0:19:54.495
<v Speaker 2>they just they love us when we arrive, but by

0:19:54.535 --> 0:19:57.095
<v Speaker 2>the time it's finished, it's like, I'm really pleased to

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<v Speaker 2>see the back of you, if we're really honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought of one that sort of to be

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<v Speaker 4>on the project manager, you know, the builders that got

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<v Speaker 4>in these contractors, because he didn't even know the name

0:20:10.215 --> 0:20:13.015
<v Speaker 4>of them. I know the name of them. I saw it.

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<v Speaker 4>Love the truck. But yeah, so he wasn't aware of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way I'd see it is that ultimately, the way that

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<v Speaker 2>I would see it, Andrea, is that ultimately the person

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<v Speaker 2>who's paying the bills is kind of responsible. You know that.

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<v Speaker 6>That.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, That's how i'd see it. Good luck with that, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe getting an estimate's a good idea. Give an estimate.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to your neighbor, Hey, this is what it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to cost. If you can contribute to it, then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just get it done. It's it's over. Otherwise I am

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<v Speaker 2>going to go the dispute trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, all the very best to you. Take care. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a tricky one. I'll tell you. What is absolutely worthwhile

0:20:54.375 --> 0:20:59.095
<v Speaker 2>is if there is going to be you know, there's well,

0:20:59.695 --> 0:21:03.055
<v Speaker 2>intensifications kind of slowed down in most urban areas because

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<v Speaker 2>the developers have kind of got out of the market.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have noticed in the last little while that

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<v Speaker 2>development sites that have sat empty, we're starting to see

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<v Speaker 2>some activity. I saw a house getting pulled off a

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<v Speaker 2>site the other day. Obviously that's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of townhouses. If you're the neighbor and you know

0:21:22.575 --> 0:21:26.095
<v Speaker 2>that something's going to start happening next door. I would

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<v Speaker 2>go through and photograph the roadway, like the curb and

0:21:31.215 --> 0:21:33.975
<v Speaker 2>the driveways and that sort of thing. And if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a shared fence or a retaining wall or something

0:21:36.935 --> 0:21:40.175
<v Speaker 2>like that, I would go through and photograph or video

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. And it's kind of we do it

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes where it's like a dereliction report. Right, this is

0:21:48.295 --> 0:21:52.055
<v Speaker 2>the state when you started building. If it is damaged

0:21:52.295 --> 0:21:56.295
<v Speaker 2>or affected in some way after you've finished your building,

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<v Speaker 2>then the contractor or the owner of the adjacent property

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<v Speaker 2>should be responsible. And that's where having evidence I photographic evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what my fence looked like before you guys

0:22:07.055 --> 0:22:09.815
<v Speaker 2>started building next door. Now it doesn't because you've been

0:22:09.855 --> 0:22:12.375
<v Speaker 2>running trucks up and down there, or someone backed into it,

0:22:12.495 --> 0:22:15.255
<v Speaker 2>or in this instance got hit with a digger. I

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<v Speaker 2>did it a couple of well I didn't. Actually the

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<v Speaker 2>digger operator that I was using collected like a handrail

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<v Speaker 2>of an adjacent property. It was a while ago. We'd

0:22:27.695 --> 0:22:30.415
<v Speaker 2>run up and down that driveway I don't know, seventy

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<v Speaker 2>eighty hundred times, and almost at the end of the

0:22:34.175 --> 0:22:36.335
<v Speaker 2>day clipped it with the bucket on the way out.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, I'll fix that. I didn't get onto it immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did it like a week later, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you would expect should happen. You may care

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<v Speaker 2>to comment. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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<v Speaker 2>number to call six thirty three here at News TALKSB Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>You're with News Talks heb Pete wolf Camp resident builder

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<v Speaker 2>here right through till nine o'clock. We've got a guest

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<v Speaker 2>after eight o'clock we've got red Cline passed as always

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<v Speaker 2>from eight thirty. Looking forward to that and if you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to join us, it'd be lovely. Oh eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>eighty ten is the number to call.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello Martin, Good morning Peter. Long time, long time caller

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<v Speaker 5>and listener and enjoyed your program for a quite few years.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got a very major problem there. Last year I

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<v Speaker 5>subdivided my three thousand square meet of property into three sections.

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<v Speaker 5>But property was created with all the council's RMA services

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<v Speaker 5>and easements consented and signed off. And the council then

0:23:36.335 --> 0:23:39.895
<v Speaker 5>have consented for us to do earthworks to create a

0:23:39.895 --> 0:23:44.215
<v Speaker 5>new building platform and get our ground structure reports to

0:23:44.215 --> 0:23:49.015
<v Speaker 5>build a new home. YEP, this straight after Christmas we

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<v Speaker 5>got the excavator in and started digging to find that

0:23:54.295 --> 0:23:59.415
<v Speaker 5>there's an illegal, non compliant sewage pipe running right through

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of my section right going to be right

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<v Speaker 5>through the middle of the new house right now. No

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<v Speaker 5>easements all that, you know, nothing on any of the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 5>And council have been in touch with counsel and they've

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<v Speaker 5>sort of just said it's a private matter and don't

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<v Speaker 5>wish to be involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'll say that's a civil matter.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yes, yes, do you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We obviously we know where that pipe goes to and

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<v Speaker 2>which house will be affected. I'm guessing it's a knock

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<v Speaker 2>on the door. And hey, by the way, don't know

0:24:34.455 --> 0:24:38.215
<v Speaker 2>that you know, but your drainage runs through my property.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no consents for it. I'm building. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>rip it up.

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<v Speaker 5>They know all this, and I wrote them a seven

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<v Speaker 5>day letter, given them, you know, seven days to remove

0:24:50.775 --> 0:24:54.975
<v Speaker 5>said pipes. But they're all just sitting back nothing, nothing,

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<v Speaker 5>doing nothing, not wanting to put their hands in their pockets. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>bearing their heads in this end.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I would probably go to your lawyer and go, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I rip that pipe out. Am I legally entitled to

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<v Speaker 2>do that?

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<v Speaker 5>And if I have been, I have been, and he's

0:25:14.415 --> 0:25:18.055
<v Speaker 5>told me because it's pre exesting, no I can't, but

0:25:19.135 --> 0:25:22.895
<v Speaker 5>a couple officials. There's a couple officials. There's no easements,

0:25:23.015 --> 0:25:27.175
<v Speaker 5>no written permission to ever have that quite there. And

0:25:27.415 --> 0:25:35.615
<v Speaker 5>this pipe, this property was originally borough council land. And

0:25:35.655 --> 0:25:38.855
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure if permission would ever given for that pipe

0:25:38.895 --> 0:25:42.415
<v Speaker 5>to go through their land, there would be some paper trail.

0:25:43.575 --> 0:25:46.335
<v Speaker 5>So it's no about any consentsal permission.

0:25:46.935 --> 0:25:52.575
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, not necessarily or even if there was originally permission.

0:25:53.135 --> 0:25:57.975
<v Speaker 2>I know his situation similar to this where let's say

0:25:57.975 --> 0:26:01.655
<v Speaker 2>there's three adjacent properties, right and and so you got

0:26:01.735 --> 0:26:06.255
<v Speaker 2>number one, two and three, number three there wastewater travels

0:26:06.375 --> 0:26:10.215
<v Speaker 2>across the backyard of number two, underneath the garage of

0:26:10.295 --> 0:26:13.815
<v Speaker 2>number three and finally gets into the council wastewater line

0:26:14.575 --> 0:26:16.215
<v Speaker 2>in an adjacent street.

0:26:16.415 --> 0:26:16.615
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:26:18.175 --> 0:26:22.095
<v Speaker 2>And I've had a look at the gies. I've had

0:26:22.135 --> 0:26:24.935
<v Speaker 2>a look on all of the drainage plans. It doesn't

0:26:24.975 --> 0:26:32.175
<v Speaker 2>appear anywhere, but it's there, right. Yeah, And without it,

0:26:32.335 --> 0:26:37.655
<v Speaker 2>that house number three would literally not There is no

0:26:37.775 --> 0:26:41.295
<v Speaker 2>other practical solution. It's a very old one. You know,

0:26:41.375 --> 0:26:45.375
<v Speaker 2>this is an old area et cetera. And despite that,

0:26:45.535 --> 0:26:48.455
<v Speaker 2>and even though it doesn't appear on the plans, somewhere

0:26:48.495 --> 0:26:51.215
<v Speaker 2>along the line, it probably did get consent right back

0:26:51.215 --> 0:26:56.415
<v Speaker 2>in the day. So the fact that it doesn't appear

0:26:56.495 --> 0:27:01.055
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't necessarily make it illegal. I mean, if it

0:27:01.095 --> 0:27:03.735
<v Speaker 2>was something that was done recently, when we know we

0:27:03.775 --> 0:27:08.855
<v Speaker 2>should have had consents, maybe you'd feel differently about it. Shivers,

0:27:10.095 --> 0:27:11.055
<v Speaker 2>can you bridge it?

0:27:13.095 --> 0:27:15.415
<v Speaker 5>And then it comes right out the bank, straight through

0:27:15.415 --> 0:27:16.455
<v Speaker 5>the middle of the house.

0:27:18.375 --> 0:27:19.495
<v Speaker 2>I've done, and.

0:27:21.335 --> 0:27:23.975
<v Speaker 5>There's two two neighbors away. The neighbor beside me that

0:27:24.055 --> 0:27:28.015
<v Speaker 5>it comes through first before it ends my property. He

0:27:28.015 --> 0:27:30.975
<v Speaker 5>has given me permission to remove it. He doesn't want

0:27:31.015 --> 0:27:33.895
<v Speaker 5>to either. He doesn't you know, he's given me permission

0:27:34.015 --> 0:27:35.055
<v Speaker 5>to chop it off.

0:27:35.855 --> 0:27:36.135
<v Speaker 2>Hang on.

0:27:36.175 --> 0:27:43.295
<v Speaker 5>The neighbor heads, yeah, but it comes from the next neighbors, okay,

0:27:43.415 --> 0:27:45.495
<v Speaker 5>And the neighbor, the neighbor next door doesn't use it.

0:27:45.775 --> 0:27:50.775
<v Speaker 5>He's gone through through courts and got all of permissions

0:27:50.815 --> 0:27:54.215
<v Speaker 5>to run a new, complete, new saw line down you know,

0:27:54.255 --> 0:27:59.415
<v Speaker 5>down the roadway, and so he you know, I've got

0:27:59.415 --> 0:28:03.615
<v Speaker 5>my own services and easement told me signed and things off.

0:28:03.615 --> 0:28:07.815
<v Speaker 5>But he my next neighbor, he's going I had permission

0:28:07.815 --> 0:28:10.455
<v Speaker 5>from the courts to put in he's a new one

0:28:10.695 --> 0:28:14.215
<v Speaker 5>right down the roadway, but this one then comes from

0:28:14.775 --> 0:28:15.535
<v Speaker 5>probably above that.

0:28:15.855 --> 0:28:24.535
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you, Yeah, yeah.

0:28:21.295 --> 0:28:22.415
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know it's very awkward.

0:28:22.895 --> 0:28:26.495
<v Speaker 2>Could could you dive because I think it's going to

0:28:26.535 --> 0:28:32.895
<v Speaker 2>be uh, I think wow. Tell you one of the

0:28:32.895 --> 0:28:37.295
<v Speaker 2>things that happened where because it's private drainage running through

0:28:37.335 --> 0:28:43.895
<v Speaker 2>an adjacent property, there is a process where counsel sort

0:28:43.895 --> 0:28:49.095
<v Speaker 2>of adopt it, right that because it effectively because private

0:28:49.135 --> 0:28:52.295
<v Speaker 2>drainage should really only be on the property that it

0:28:52.335 --> 0:28:55.855
<v Speaker 2>relates to, right and then when once it extends to

0:28:55.935 --> 0:29:03.935
<v Speaker 2>the boundary, it becomes public. So could you convince counsel

0:29:04.415 --> 0:29:08.655
<v Speaker 2>to take ownership of your of that pipe that runs

0:29:08.655 --> 0:29:14.775
<v Speaker 2>through your property and effectively through your neighbors? And then the.

0:29:17.815 --> 0:29:19.615
<v Speaker 5>Only way, the only way I can see for it,

0:29:19.695 --> 0:29:23.895
<v Speaker 5>I've got to just disconnect topic in the neighbors and

0:29:23.935 --> 0:29:27.935
<v Speaker 5>then then fight it and court, you know then, and

0:29:28.135 --> 0:29:31.255
<v Speaker 5>which could take years. And these these housess houses that

0:29:31.335 --> 0:29:34.255
<v Speaker 5>are affected are going to have no no.

0:29:34.295 --> 0:29:36.935
<v Speaker 2>Sewage or yeah, well that that's what going to work

0:29:36.935 --> 0:29:38.895
<v Speaker 2>for them for about a day and a half, isn't it?

0:29:38.935 --> 0:29:43.375
<v Speaker 2>Before you know this toilet stop flushing basically.

0:29:43.295 --> 0:29:47.215
<v Speaker 5>And then and then maybe councils and everyone will start moving.

0:29:47.295 --> 0:29:49.175
<v Speaker 5>But it's it's not a nice way to go.

0:29:49.695 --> 0:29:53.455
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not. I'm just thinking about the practical implication

0:29:53.535 --> 0:29:56.935
<v Speaker 2>of having this pipe running through where you want your

0:29:56.975 --> 0:30:00.495
<v Speaker 2>new building platform to be. Could you divert it and

0:30:00.535 --> 0:30:03.215
<v Speaker 2>then you can build where you want to build without

0:30:03.255 --> 0:30:05.415
<v Speaker 2>having a sewer pipe running underneath the house.

0:30:06.415 --> 0:30:12.615
<v Speaker 5>But it's a non compliant. It's it's one hundred mil surpi.

0:30:13.175 --> 0:30:15.495
<v Speaker 5>You know, feeding two houses now, I had to put

0:30:16.095 --> 0:30:18.895
<v Speaker 5>my two plub houses. I had to do all things

0:30:18.935 --> 0:30:22.215
<v Speaker 5>with one fifty mil. Yes, yes, it's a non consented

0:30:22.415 --> 0:30:24.655
<v Speaker 5>It's bit like when you do alterations to your house

0:30:25.135 --> 0:30:27.295
<v Speaker 5>and you know you sort of changed, you know, the

0:30:27.335 --> 0:30:30.615
<v Speaker 5>window structure or something. You've got a thing so illegally,

0:30:31.575 --> 0:30:33.775
<v Speaker 5>if I do that, it's illegal.

0:30:34.295 --> 0:30:34.975
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you.

0:30:35.175 --> 0:30:36.695
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's not going to be.

0:30:37.215 --> 0:30:39.335
<v Speaker 2>If you were to divert it, and if you took

0:30:39.415 --> 0:30:41.815
<v Speaker 2>responsibility for it, you would have to comply with the

0:30:41.855 --> 0:30:44.655
<v Speaker 2>current regulations. And if that man's one hundred and fifty mil,

0:30:45.135 --> 0:30:46.615
<v Speaker 2>then suddenly you're putting in.

0:30:48.295 --> 0:30:51.295
<v Speaker 5>So you're talking hundred thousand dollars plus is what you're

0:30:51.335 --> 0:30:54.855
<v Speaker 5>talking could be Yeah, they have done I do. My

0:30:55.295 --> 0:30:58.055
<v Speaker 5>part was fifty thousand dollars for things, and you know

0:30:58.375 --> 0:31:01.375
<v Speaker 5>you're talking twice quite twice my distance.

0:31:01.735 --> 0:31:03.775
<v Speaker 2>What would be interesting is if you went back to

0:31:03.855 --> 0:31:06.895
<v Speaker 2>council and said, look, you've you know, I've I've complied

0:31:06.935 --> 0:31:09.775
<v Speaker 2>with all of the drainage requirements for my property right

0:31:10.015 --> 0:31:13.135
<v Speaker 2>and you've given consent for that. You've also given me

0:31:13.415 --> 0:31:16.975
<v Speaker 2>seemingly consent for the location of the new build. And

0:31:17.015 --> 0:31:20.695
<v Speaker 2>now I've discovered that there's a public drain or a

0:31:20.735 --> 0:31:25.855
<v Speaker 2>private train that runs through my land. What do they suggest?

0:31:26.775 --> 0:31:27.975
<v Speaker 2>They just go, we don't want to know.

0:31:29.295 --> 0:31:32.975
<v Speaker 5>Yes, these properties are all off a private mary road,

0:31:34.495 --> 0:31:37.375
<v Speaker 5>and the councils just close their eyes and shake their head.

0:31:37.415 --> 0:31:39.895
<v Speaker 5>I've talked to the council for a couple of years now,

0:31:40.135 --> 0:31:43.975
<v Speaker 5>head engineers, and they just close their eyes and what

0:31:44.775 --> 0:31:51.375
<v Speaker 5>they don't want themvolved there is been to the Maryland

0:31:51.375 --> 0:31:54.255
<v Speaker 5>courts and they've given permission for my neighbor to put

0:31:54.295 --> 0:31:57.095
<v Speaker 5>all the services down the LPE near the private road.

0:31:57.215 --> 0:32:00.935
<v Speaker 2>I presume too that given that you've had legal advice

0:32:01.015 --> 0:32:03.695
<v Speaker 2>from your own lawyer, and your lawyer is quite clear

0:32:03.735 --> 0:32:07.135
<v Speaker 2>and saying you don't have the right to just cut

0:32:07.175 --> 0:32:07.535
<v Speaker 2>it off.

0:32:08.575 --> 0:32:08.895
<v Speaker 7>Mhm.

0:32:10.015 --> 0:32:10.575
<v Speaker 2>Is that correct?

0:32:10.615 --> 0:32:14.335
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, but that's from that's that's that's coming from

0:32:14.375 --> 0:32:17.295
<v Speaker 5>two neighbors away. My neighbor next door who doesn't use

0:32:17.335 --> 0:32:19.535
<v Speaker 5>it just to be a section, doesn't use it, and

0:32:19.535 --> 0:32:21.815
<v Speaker 5>it says to create his own. It's quite heavy for

0:32:21.855 --> 0:32:26.815
<v Speaker 5>me to cut it off. So now who's my thing

0:32:26.855 --> 0:32:29.735
<v Speaker 5>from the where it starts or from where it enters

0:32:29.775 --> 0:32:38.935
<v Speaker 5>from where an inters. Yeah, I guess that might be

0:32:38.975 --> 0:32:41.375
<v Speaker 5>a bit complicated.

0:32:42.655 --> 0:32:44.535
<v Speaker 2>Hell, I don't I.

0:32:47.615 --> 0:32:49.375
<v Speaker 5>And the only way I see forward is for me

0:32:49.455 --> 0:32:51.815
<v Speaker 5>to cut it off and then then I will get

0:32:51.815 --> 0:32:57.055
<v Speaker 5>some action from thee.

0:33:00.895 --> 0:33:05.055
<v Speaker 2>An interesting one for our Well, we've had a couple

0:33:05.095 --> 0:33:07.375
<v Speaker 2>of We've got two lawyers that I call on on

0:33:07.415 --> 0:33:11.015
<v Speaker 2>the show, Mike Thornton, who does sort of construction law,

0:33:11.655 --> 0:33:19.975
<v Speaker 2>and then Ben Johnson, who does more property law. It's

0:33:20.015 --> 0:33:22.135
<v Speaker 2>no help to you, but that would be a great

0:33:22.215 --> 0:33:23.735
<v Speaker 2>question to ask them.

0:33:24.055 --> 0:33:26.015
<v Speaker 5>No, just last week and you had those ones with

0:33:26.135 --> 0:33:28.855
<v Speaker 5>the storm water, you know, ye damage well the neighbors

0:33:28.895 --> 0:33:36.135
<v Speaker 5>and that and yeah, I'll.

0:33:33.775 --> 0:33:38.855
<v Speaker 2>Tell you what someone's just text through. And it's interesting, morning, Pete.

0:33:38.895 --> 0:33:41.055
<v Speaker 2>The pre existing pipe will have to be moved by

0:33:41.055 --> 0:33:43.495
<v Speaker 2>the developer, which is effectively you. It's a cost of

0:33:43.535 --> 0:33:47.335
<v Speaker 2>the subdividing. Unlucky, but just one of those unseen costs

0:33:47.375 --> 0:33:49.855
<v Speaker 2>for developing. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You just

0:33:49.895 --> 0:33:51.775
<v Speaker 2>have to take the good with the bad. That's from Tommy.

0:33:51.895 --> 0:33:55.295
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like Tommy probably is realistic and maybe it

0:33:55.415 --> 0:33:57.535
<v Speaker 2>is just going to be you're going to either have

0:33:57.615 --> 0:33:59.615
<v Speaker 2>to bridge it, so you're gonna have to redesign your

0:33:59.695 --> 0:34:05.415
<v Speaker 2>slab so that it's bridging, or you're going to have

0:34:05.535 --> 0:34:08.415
<v Speaker 2>to divert it and just decide which is the more

0:34:08.455 --> 0:34:12.575
<v Speaker 2>cost effective solution, or move the location of your house.

0:34:12.575 --> 0:34:14.015
<v Speaker 2>But that's not that easy.

0:34:14.655 --> 0:34:18.295
<v Speaker 5>No, no, of you looking right down unto the lake.

0:34:18.375 --> 0:34:19.135
<v Speaker 5>It's oh.

0:34:21.255 --> 0:34:27.575
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's an intriguing one. But I think it is

0:34:27.615 --> 0:34:29.855
<v Speaker 2>incredibly frustrating, isn't it When you go to counsel and

0:34:29.895 --> 0:34:31.535
<v Speaker 2>then the end they just go, we just don't know,

0:34:31.615 --> 0:34:33.935
<v Speaker 2>and you go like, you're the people that should.

0:34:33.775 --> 0:34:37.695
<v Speaker 5>Be and these neighbors are just buried the head and.

0:34:40.375 --> 0:34:43.855
<v Speaker 2>Wow, hey, I'm sorry that we can't come to a

0:34:43.895 --> 0:34:45.695
<v Speaker 2>conclusion on that, but I'd love to know where you

0:34:45.695 --> 0:34:46.575
<v Speaker 2>get to Please let.

0:34:46.575 --> 0:34:46.895
<v Speaker 5>Me know it.

0:34:47.855 --> 0:34:51.135
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, we'll take nice, take care then

0:34:52.295 --> 0:34:56.895
<v Speaker 2>far out, far out. That could be a mess. I

0:34:57.015 --> 0:35:00.375
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred eighty two. Oh, maybe an even bigger mess

0:35:00.375 --> 0:35:02.615
<v Speaker 2>if you just caps it. I wait, hundred eighty ten

0:35:02.655 --> 0:35:04.455
<v Speaker 2>eighty is the number to call. Six forty eight. Will

0:35:04.455 --> 0:35:06.855
<v Speaker 2>take a break, We'll be back with Rose and moment

0:35:07.095 --> 0:35:10.895
<v Speaker 2>you and new Stork se b actually just wrapping up,

0:35:10.975 --> 0:35:13.775
<v Speaker 2>hopefully bit of that conversation with Martin just a moment ago. Hey,

0:35:13.775 --> 0:35:16.815
<v Speaker 2>Pete pipe would have been built installed prior to nineteen

0:35:16.855 --> 0:35:19.775
<v Speaker 2>ninety one, so to be considered an existing situation under

0:35:19.775 --> 0:35:24.895
<v Speaker 2>the Building Act. Hence it is legally established. And that's

0:35:25.015 --> 0:35:28.375
<v Speaker 2>pretty much exactly the same situation as I'm aware of

0:35:28.455 --> 0:35:30.775
<v Speaker 2>where like I say, now you know house number one,

0:35:30.775 --> 0:35:33.175
<v Speaker 2>two and three all in a row. House Number three's

0:35:33.375 --> 0:35:37.775
<v Speaker 2>sewer travels across the backyard of two, through the backyard

0:35:37.815 --> 0:35:40.735
<v Speaker 2>effectively of number one, and out into the road. So

0:35:40.775 --> 0:35:44.575
<v Speaker 2>it's on a corner site. And yeah, nobody knew it

0:35:44.655 --> 0:35:48.855
<v Speaker 2>was there, but it is, and so obviously cutting it

0:35:49.095 --> 0:35:52.375
<v Speaker 2>is not really an option, as tempting as that might be. Oh,

0:35:52.415 --> 0:35:54.695
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

0:35:54.855 --> 0:35:58.255
<v Speaker 2>Haven't finished about my story about the puttering. I'm just

0:35:58.255 --> 0:36:00.415
<v Speaker 2>starting to write my list. It's a very long list

0:36:00.415 --> 0:36:03.015
<v Speaker 2>of jobs that I got done. Yes, that was awesome, Rose,

0:36:03.095 --> 0:36:04.815
<v Speaker 2>good evening or good morning to you.

0:36:07.615 --> 0:36:09.615
<v Speaker 8>I found myself in a bit of a side situation.

0:36:09.855 --> 0:36:14.455
<v Speaker 8>I applied for a council flood report, yes after the

0:36:14.455 --> 0:36:19.255
<v Speaker 8>twenty three floods, and I didn't expect anything. They came

0:36:19.295 --> 0:36:22.855
<v Speaker 8>back and notted me a buyout and so last thing

0:36:22.855 --> 0:36:27.495
<v Speaker 8>I wanted and I've just got choices. Is it possible

0:36:27.535 --> 0:36:29.975
<v Speaker 8>to raise a two story brick house?

0:36:32.735 --> 0:36:35.655
<v Speaker 2>Interesting that you mentioned this now because I had a

0:36:35.695 --> 0:36:40.775
<v Speaker 2>conversation with very good friends yesterday and they have had

0:36:41.455 --> 0:36:45.095
<v Speaker 2>similar things just in the last couple of weeks. And

0:36:45.135 --> 0:36:47.295
<v Speaker 2>this is Auckland Council. And I actually went to the

0:36:47.335 --> 0:36:52.015
<v Speaker 2>Auckland Council website yesterday and there's a large number of

0:36:52.015 --> 0:36:53.975
<v Speaker 2>houses that are going to be bought by council. Like

0:36:54.055 --> 0:36:58.335
<v Speaker 2>we're talking seven eight hundred houses through the Auckland area.

0:36:58.575 --> 0:36:59.655
<v Speaker 2>So can I presume that.

0:36:59.655 --> 0:37:03.975
<v Speaker 8>You're in Auckland use definitely I'm in one of those.

0:37:04.375 --> 0:37:08.615
<v Speaker 8>And whole streets have disappeared, you know, Yes, apparently.

0:37:08.335 --> 0:37:13.895
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is, and so yeah, I am aware of it.

0:37:13.975 --> 0:37:20.695
<v Speaker 2>I see I, well, I don't know that if you

0:37:20.775 --> 0:37:23.215
<v Speaker 2>were to, because obviously you want to stay living where

0:37:23.255 --> 0:37:25.695
<v Speaker 2>you are, right, and what I'm doing.

0:37:25.815 --> 0:37:28.055
<v Speaker 8>It wasn't in one of the major areas, and no

0:37:28.095 --> 0:37:30.215
<v Speaker 8>one else in most street doesn't even apply it, So

0:37:30.295 --> 0:37:32.615
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't have applied if I'd realized it could lead to this.

0:37:32.735 --> 0:37:35.455
<v Speaker 8>But there were any mornings like that I applied to

0:37:35.735 --> 0:37:37.335
<v Speaker 8>I did it get out with drainage?

0:37:38.535 --> 0:37:39.455
<v Speaker 2>Right? Okay?

0:37:39.655 --> 0:37:41.895
<v Speaker 8>Pay unless your neighbors applied.

0:37:42.975 --> 0:37:47.295
<v Speaker 2>So in this now, and just to be clear, rose,

0:37:47.535 --> 0:37:51.495
<v Speaker 2>so in this instance here after the flooding, where obviously

0:37:51.615 --> 0:37:53.455
<v Speaker 2>did you have flooding inside your house?

0:37:54.775 --> 0:37:58.455
<v Speaker 8>Yes, it was a level about seven, right.

0:37:58.855 --> 0:38:03.335
<v Speaker 2>And so you made an application to counsel for assistance

0:38:03.375 --> 0:38:06.015
<v Speaker 2>I guess in terms of remediating drainage and the hope

0:38:06.015 --> 0:38:09.415
<v Speaker 2>that would solve it. And the council responses has been

0:38:09.415 --> 0:38:11.535
<v Speaker 2>to come back to you and go, we're going to

0:38:11.535 --> 0:38:12.175
<v Speaker 2>buy you out.

0:38:13.615 --> 0:38:17.975
<v Speaker 8>Yes, yes, right, And we realized it came from a

0:38:18.655 --> 0:38:21.455
<v Speaker 8>cad drain that hadn't been maintained and as soon as

0:38:21.495 --> 0:38:24.655
<v Speaker 8>they worked on it, it just immediately subsided.

0:38:24.415 --> 0:38:27.415
<v Speaker 5>Right, Okay, wouldn't get to bear the king.

0:38:28.215 --> 0:38:30.975
<v Speaker 2>Look, it does sound like you're probably going to need

0:38:31.095 --> 0:38:34.295
<v Speaker 2>some professional advice, you know, maybe from a lawyer who

0:38:34.335 --> 0:38:38.855
<v Speaker 2>can look at the the areas that counsel are going

0:38:38.855 --> 0:38:41.615
<v Speaker 2>to buy out. And if yours, you know, I guess

0:38:41.975 --> 0:38:44.295
<v Speaker 2>in your situation, if you're the only one like I

0:38:44.855 --> 0:38:48.535
<v Speaker 2>do completely understand counsel going you know what, we we

0:38:48.575 --> 0:38:50.855
<v Speaker 2>aren't We are not going to be able to fix

0:38:50.895 --> 0:38:53.895
<v Speaker 2>this problem in some areas. So our best solution is

0:38:53.935 --> 0:38:58.415
<v Speaker 2>to offer to buy people out right, But if that

0:38:58.455 --> 0:39:02.135
<v Speaker 2>would typically apply then to your neighbors, because that's illogical

0:39:02.175 --> 0:39:05.095
<v Speaker 2>that it's just you unless you're in a particular Well they.

0:39:04.935 --> 0:39:09.135
<v Speaker 8>Didn't apply, so nothing right and they still get insurance.

0:39:09.215 --> 0:39:13.735
<v Speaker 2>Well then I h yeah, that's going to be the

0:39:13.775 --> 0:39:14.575
<v Speaker 2>hard thing, isn't it.

0:39:16.615 --> 0:39:20.095
<v Speaker 8>I presume it's just the flooding and you can get fire. Another.

0:39:20.895 --> 0:39:23.695
<v Speaker 2>I wonder whether you may need to go to a planner.

0:39:23.975 --> 0:39:27.175
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that some planners town planners will have

0:39:27.295 --> 0:39:30.935
<v Speaker 2>become very familiar with this process now and go to

0:39:30.975 --> 0:39:33.735
<v Speaker 2>a planner, You're probably going to have to pay for

0:39:33.775 --> 0:39:37.415
<v Speaker 2>some professional advice and that they then would act on

0:39:37.455 --> 0:39:40.655
<v Speaker 2>your behalf to go back to counsel. And in this instance,

0:39:40.695 --> 0:39:43.535
<v Speaker 2>because your neighbors are not being brought out and simply

0:39:43.655 --> 0:39:47.215
<v Speaker 2>go Actually that that was not my intention. That while

0:39:47.255 --> 0:39:51.855
<v Speaker 2>there is a risk of inundation, it's it's infrequent, and

0:39:51.975 --> 0:39:56.735
<v Speaker 2>so I would, I mean, maybe even just withdraw your

0:39:56.735 --> 0:39:59.615
<v Speaker 2>application for any assistance back in the mo right, Oh,

0:39:59.655 --> 0:40:03.895
<v Speaker 2>good morning, welcome back. Sorry appalling broadcasting skills on my part,

0:40:04.015 --> 0:40:06.255
<v Speaker 2>just crashing into the news, but I was so captivated

0:40:06.415 --> 0:40:09.695
<v Speaker 2>by the conversation with Rose that I completely ignored all

0:40:09.695 --> 0:40:12.255
<v Speaker 2>the other stuff. Anyway, we will talk to Rose, wrap

0:40:12.335 --> 0:40:14.455
<v Speaker 2>up that conversation if you'd like to join us. Eight

0:40:14.575 --> 0:40:17.575
<v Speaker 2>hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call a

0:40:17.615 --> 0:40:20.935
<v Speaker 2>couple of really big issues around development, which makes me

0:40:21.015 --> 0:40:22.775
<v Speaker 2>think that maybe it's time to get one of our

0:40:22.855 --> 0:40:25.055
<v Speaker 2>legal eagles back on the show as well in the

0:40:25.135 --> 0:40:27.775
<v Speaker 2>next couple of weeks, which we will do. Eight hundred

0:40:27.855 --> 0:40:31.695
<v Speaker 2>eighty ten eighty. We're taking your calls right now. Remember

0:40:31.775 --> 0:40:36.495
<v Speaker 2>after eight o'clock a guest I reached out to gentleman

0:40:36.535 --> 0:40:39.655
<v Speaker 2>by the name of Wayne McGuire, who is a Ray

0:40:39.695 --> 0:40:43.295
<v Speaker 2>Whites agent, has been an agency owner, so very familiar

0:40:43.375 --> 0:40:47.735
<v Speaker 2>with the I guess the laws and the requirement around

0:40:47.775 --> 0:40:50.735
<v Speaker 2>sale and purchase agreements, particularly after a conversation on this

0:40:50.855 --> 0:40:55.015
<v Speaker 2>show two weeks ago where someone talked about having taken

0:40:55.055 --> 0:40:58.415
<v Speaker 2>a successful case against a previous owner of the property,

0:40:58.455 --> 0:41:01.535
<v Speaker 2>the person they bought the house from, some two years

0:41:01.615 --> 0:41:05.495
<v Speaker 2>after the sale and purchase agreement was completed, because they

0:41:05.655 --> 0:41:09.615
<v Speaker 2>found that the person did not declare information that they

0:41:09.735 --> 0:41:14.175
<v Speaker 2>were fully aware of around some building defects sought redressed

0:41:14.175 --> 0:41:17.575
<v Speaker 2>through the dispute tribunal. Won that case and I think

0:41:17.615 --> 0:41:20.255
<v Speaker 2>it might have been twenty grand that they got. So

0:41:20.575 --> 0:41:22.975
<v Speaker 2>how does that work? What if you're going to sell

0:41:22.975 --> 0:41:25.655
<v Speaker 2>a house, what do you have to do as the

0:41:25.775 --> 0:41:28.175
<v Speaker 2>vendor in terms of disclosure. We'll be talking about that

0:41:28.455 --> 0:41:32.175
<v Speaker 2>with Wayne McGuire after eight o'clock. MEMBERD at eight thirty,

0:41:32.255 --> 0:41:34.815
<v Speaker 2>but right now we'll take your calls at eight hundred

0:41:34.815 --> 0:41:37.975
<v Speaker 2>and eighty ten eighty. Rose, thanks for staying with us

0:41:38.015 --> 0:41:38.575
<v Speaker 2>for a moment.

0:41:40.215 --> 0:41:43.815
<v Speaker 8>That's okay. I you suggested withdrawing that that wasn't an

0:41:43.815 --> 0:41:44.735
<v Speaker 8>option They want.

0:41:44.615 --> 0:41:45.135
<v Speaker 9>You to do that.

0:41:45.775 --> 0:41:51.095
<v Speaker 2>No, I think, gosh, it feels like you've let the

0:41:51.135 --> 0:41:53.695
<v Speaker 2>genie out of the bottle inadvertently and it's going to

0:41:53.735 --> 0:41:56.335
<v Speaker 2>be really hard to put it back in. I just

0:41:56.415 --> 0:42:01.255
<v Speaker 2>wonder whether because you are, you know, like if you

0:42:01.295 --> 0:42:03.895
<v Speaker 2>were in a street that was low lying and all

0:42:03.935 --> 0:42:06.895
<v Speaker 2>of your neighbors had had an offer from counsel to

0:42:06.895 --> 0:42:09.415
<v Speaker 2>buy them out, then I guess it's very hard to

0:42:09.855 --> 0:42:12.615
<v Speaker 2>push back against that right. But if you are the

0:42:12.655 --> 0:42:17.695
<v Speaker 2>only person that they have made that approach to, I

0:42:17.735 --> 0:42:20.695
<v Speaker 2>just feel that that gives you some hope in terms

0:42:20.695 --> 0:42:23.775
<v Speaker 2>of being able to negotiate with counsel. The hard thing

0:42:23.855 --> 0:42:27.775
<v Speaker 2>is it won't change, or it may not change, the

0:42:28.495 --> 0:42:31.655
<v Speaker 2>concerns around flooding that will be on the property file.

0:42:31.855 --> 0:42:34.375
<v Speaker 2>And you're right, will you be able to get insurance?

0:42:34.415 --> 0:42:38.895
<v Speaker 2>And if later on when you go to sell, you know,

0:42:39.375 --> 0:42:44.055
<v Speaker 2>would someone want to buy a house that they can't ensure? Possibly,

0:42:44.215 --> 0:42:45.895
<v Speaker 2>but not at market price.

0:42:47.575 --> 0:42:47.735
<v Speaker 8>No.

0:42:49.615 --> 0:42:53.815
<v Speaker 2>Look, I do wonder whether either through your lawyer or

0:42:53.815 --> 0:42:57.135
<v Speaker 2>through a property like a town planner, you could seek

0:42:57.215 --> 0:43:00.735
<v Speaker 2>some professional advice, someone who understands what the legislation is,

0:43:01.015 --> 0:43:04.695
<v Speaker 2>what the parameters of the council offer it is, and

0:43:04.735 --> 0:43:10.375
<v Speaker 2>whether or not there's an option for you to push

0:43:10.455 --> 0:43:13.375
<v Speaker 2>back and stay in the house. But it's not going

0:43:13.415 --> 0:43:15.415
<v Speaker 2>to change the fact that your house has now been

0:43:15.495 --> 0:43:18.615
<v Speaker 2>identified as obviously being in a flood zone.

0:43:18.935 --> 0:43:21.095
<v Speaker 8>No, I know that's true, and I just send all

0:43:21.095 --> 0:43:23.855
<v Speaker 8>the insurance money over two hundred thousand doing it up

0:43:23.895 --> 0:43:27.735
<v Speaker 8>and it's beautiful. Now it's just till I liked it. Yeah,

0:43:27.975 --> 0:43:31.495
<v Speaker 8>and that's wasted. If I think they give you that

0:43:31.735 --> 0:43:32.415
<v Speaker 8>money back.

0:43:33.015 --> 0:43:36.455
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. Oh that's a really tricky one.

0:43:36.455 --> 0:43:36.655
<v Speaker 5>And I.

0:43:38.215 --> 0:43:40.255
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you can take some consolation by the fact that

0:43:40.335 --> 0:43:44.335
<v Speaker 2>you're not alone. There will literally I'm aware having looked

0:43:44.335 --> 0:43:49.335
<v Speaker 2>at the website yesterday, that many several hundred Auckland property

0:43:49.375 --> 0:43:51.375
<v Speaker 2>owners will be in exactly the same situation.

0:43:52.775 --> 0:43:54.775
<v Speaker 8>Yes, I think they are just not in this area.

0:43:55.095 --> 0:43:57.815
<v Speaker 2>No, that's right, Good luck with that. But I think

0:43:57.895 --> 0:44:00.135
<v Speaker 2>professional advice from a town planner might be the go.

0:44:02.015 --> 0:44:05.215
<v Speaker 8>Nice to talk. It's not practical to raise the house.

0:44:05.055 --> 0:44:07.895
<v Speaker 2>As their own, well I guess it would be. And

0:44:07.935 --> 0:44:11.735
<v Speaker 2>that's a sensible flood prevention issue. So you know, if

0:44:11.815 --> 0:44:14.735
<v Speaker 2>you were to say, hey, look what I'm going to

0:44:14.775 --> 0:44:17.095
<v Speaker 2>do is I'm going to raise the house and maybe

0:44:17.095 --> 0:44:20.095
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a block basement down below, which

0:44:20.575 --> 0:44:24.015
<v Speaker 2>has you know, like if the water comes through, it'll

0:44:24.095 --> 0:44:26.215
<v Speaker 2>just flood through, the blocks will be saturated for a

0:44:26.255 --> 0:44:28.695
<v Speaker 2>period of time. Or you could lift the house and

0:44:28.735 --> 0:44:31.375
<v Speaker 2>put it on poles, certainly there's large areas in the

0:44:31.415 --> 0:44:34.255
<v Speaker 2>Bay of Plenty that were also affected by the floods.

0:44:34.255 --> 0:44:38.135
<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, around East Cape and all sorts of areas

0:44:38.135 --> 0:44:41.215
<v Speaker 2>there where people are going, actually we might need to

0:44:41.375 --> 0:44:44.055
<v Speaker 2>if we're going to rebuild, we're going to rebuild at

0:44:44.055 --> 0:44:47.855
<v Speaker 2>a higher level, and you know, if the floods come

0:44:47.935 --> 0:44:50.575
<v Speaker 2>then it'll just go underneath the house and carry on.

0:44:51.855 --> 0:44:53.775
<v Speaker 8>But again, was a garrige or not?

0:44:55.935 --> 0:44:59.015
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's non habitable. If it was non habitable,

0:44:59.015 --> 0:45:00.735
<v Speaker 2>and if it was designed in such a way that

0:45:00.775 --> 0:45:03.055
<v Speaker 2>the water just simply flowed from one end to the other,

0:45:03.575 --> 0:45:06.255
<v Speaker 2>you could possibly do that. But then that's a significant

0:45:06.375 --> 0:45:07.375
<v Speaker 2>cost on your part.

0:45:08.735 --> 0:45:11.575
<v Speaker 8>Well, it definitely isn't It was a big section. I

0:45:11.575 --> 0:45:13.215
<v Speaker 8>wanted to build out the back, and I would have

0:45:13.215 --> 0:45:15.175
<v Speaker 8>thought they would allow it if it was built at

0:45:15.175 --> 0:45:17.175
<v Speaker 8>the right level. But I don't think that's going to

0:45:17.215 --> 0:45:19.015
<v Speaker 8>be an option If I'm a Category.

0:45:18.615 --> 0:45:24.615
<v Speaker 2>Three I don't think so either. To be fair, I

0:45:24.655 --> 0:45:26.935
<v Speaker 2>hope it all works out for you. Thanks Rose.

0:45:27.055 --> 0:45:28.255
<v Speaker 8>Thanks, it's interesting plan.

0:45:28.575 --> 0:45:30.135
<v Speaker 2>No trouble, Yeah, good luck with that.

0:45:30.175 --> 0:45:30.935
<v Speaker 8>Thank you all right.

0:45:31.055 --> 0:45:33.655
<v Speaker 2>You take care. Bob oh eight hundred and eighty ten

0:45:33.775 --> 0:45:36.215
<v Speaker 2>eighty the number to call if you're I suppose it's

0:45:36.215 --> 0:45:38.335
<v Speaker 2>one of those things. If you are aware of this

0:45:38.495 --> 0:45:41.615
<v Speaker 2>because you've had a letter from council recently, then you'll

0:45:41.655 --> 0:45:43.415
<v Speaker 2>be aware of it. If you're not, like me, I

0:45:43.535 --> 0:45:48.735
<v Speaker 2>wasn't well. I was aware that some areas were being targeted,

0:45:48.815 --> 0:45:53.375
<v Speaker 2>but identified as areas where there is sort of basically

0:45:53.415 --> 0:45:58.255
<v Speaker 2>flood risk that can't be mitigated. And I remember going

0:45:58.295 --> 0:46:02.335
<v Speaker 2>to a house before the January twenty twenty three flood

0:46:02.535 --> 0:46:06.615
<v Speaker 2>that flooded the previous year and they were going to

0:46:06.615 --> 0:46:09.095
<v Speaker 2>get bored out at that time. Well, it's it's confirmed

0:46:09.095 --> 0:46:12.615
<v Speaker 2>these areas. It's staggering numbers they If you're interested, you

0:46:12.615 --> 0:46:14.855
<v Speaker 2>can go to the Auckland Council website. Just search for

0:46:15.375 --> 0:46:17.415
<v Speaker 2>what I searched for was north Shore because I'm on

0:46:17.415 --> 0:46:19.815
<v Speaker 2>the north Shore of Auckland buy out and it just

0:46:19.895 --> 0:46:25.535
<v Speaker 2>listed literally hundreds of houses. Doesn't say any details about them.

0:46:25.535 --> 0:46:28.135
<v Speaker 2>It just says suburb number of houses that are in

0:46:28.175 --> 0:46:30.655
<v Speaker 2>that z own number that have been brought out. It's

0:46:30.695 --> 0:46:33.535
<v Speaker 2>a big process. O eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

0:46:33.575 --> 0:46:35.295
<v Speaker 2>the number to call if you've got a building question.

0:46:35.535 --> 0:46:38.615
<v Speaker 2>We can talk all things building, construction, anything really to

0:46:38.655 --> 0:46:42.855
<v Speaker 2>do with home ownership and for some people having council

0:46:42.935 --> 0:46:44.895
<v Speaker 2>come along and make you an offer and your property

0:46:44.975 --> 0:46:47.295
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a reality. So oh, eight hundred

0:46:47.335 --> 0:46:51.815
<v Speaker 2>eighty ten eighty is the number, Hollow Georgie. Hi, how

0:46:51.815 --> 0:46:52.295
<v Speaker 2>can I help?

0:46:53.895 --> 0:46:56.295
<v Speaker 9>We purchased a property which will be coming up four

0:46:56.375 --> 0:47:01.655
<v Speaker 9>years in March, and about a year ago we noticed

0:47:01.655 --> 0:47:04.975
<v Speaker 9>a shower this weeking so it was a double lingard shower,

0:47:04.975 --> 0:47:08.175
<v Speaker 9>so he stopped giving one in anyway. So just recently

0:47:08.215 --> 0:47:13.095
<v Speaker 9>we've ripped the shower out and found that it hasn't

0:47:13.135 --> 0:47:16.255
<v Speaker 9>been lined with jib aquiline. It's been lined with ply

0:47:17.215 --> 0:47:19.695
<v Speaker 9>which hasn't even been fixed to the wall, and it's

0:47:19.735 --> 0:47:23.935
<v Speaker 9>had very minimal waterproofing. So they ran a strip down

0:47:24.335 --> 0:47:28.055
<v Speaker 9>the corner and a stripped down underneath where the tats are.

0:47:28.775 --> 0:47:32.615
<v Speaker 9>And when we looked at the PS three, the property

0:47:32.655 --> 0:47:34.335
<v Speaker 9>owner signed it himself.

0:47:35.135 --> 0:47:38.175
<v Speaker 4>Oh the product he used, Yeah, the product he used was.

0:47:38.095 --> 0:47:44.375
<v Speaker 9>From the warehouse, yes, and where the council obviously signed

0:47:44.375 --> 0:47:46.935
<v Speaker 9>off on this. We're having to rip the shower up

0:47:46.935 --> 0:47:50.775
<v Speaker 9>and replace it. Obviously the woods the base places are rotten.

0:47:53.015 --> 0:47:54.535
<v Speaker 9>Do we have any come back on him because he

0:47:54.615 --> 0:47:55.775
<v Speaker 9>signed the PS three.

0:47:57.255 --> 0:48:00.455
<v Speaker 2>Which is kind of what date is on the PS three?

0:48:01.735 --> 0:48:06.215
<v Speaker 9>Oh that I don't know when the build was done?

0:48:07.735 --> 0:48:09.655
<v Speaker 2>Which how long ago? Do you think that was sort

0:48:09.655 --> 0:48:10.255
<v Speaker 2>of early two.

0:48:10.215 --> 0:48:15.375
<v Speaker 9>Thousand, approximately four years, just over four years, because we

0:48:15.935 --> 0:48:19.535
<v Speaker 9>bought it four years ago and they hadn't lived in

0:48:19.575 --> 0:48:20.135
<v Speaker 9>it very long.

0:48:20.815 --> 0:48:26.655
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, then yeah, I think you do. Because by

0:48:27.375 --> 0:48:32.695
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting that someone who's not can I ask you,

0:48:32.735 --> 0:48:35.255
<v Speaker 2>without going to too much detail, where are you in

0:48:35.295 --> 0:48:36.615
<v Speaker 2>Auckland or somewhere like that?

0:48:37.335 --> 0:48:37.935
<v Speaker 9>No? Final?

0:48:38.175 --> 0:48:40.975
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, because for example in Auckland, and I

0:48:41.135 --> 0:48:45.375
<v Speaker 2>mentioned this just for everybody else's information, like, in order

0:48:45.415 --> 0:48:50.815
<v Speaker 2>to issue a producer statement, particularly for waterproofing, you have

0:48:50.895 --> 0:48:56.975
<v Speaker 2>to be on the approved Producer Statement author register with

0:48:57.415 --> 0:49:03.095
<v Speaker 2>Auckland Council, right, So it stops this process, right, So

0:49:03.575 --> 0:49:06.895
<v Speaker 2>I know I've if I've had a waterproofer work for me.

0:49:08.735 --> 0:49:11.815
<v Speaker 2>You can either go online and check or when it

0:49:11.815 --> 0:49:17.455
<v Speaker 2>comes to CCC time council check that the person who

0:49:17.535 --> 0:49:20.735
<v Speaker 2>has been the author of the producer statement is in

0:49:20.775 --> 0:49:26.295
<v Speaker 2>fact qualified to issue or to author a producer statement,

0:49:26.775 --> 0:49:29.775
<v Speaker 2>and they will reject ones that are from someone who

0:49:29.855 --> 0:49:34.775
<v Speaker 2>just signs one. Right because because typically in order to

0:49:34.855 --> 0:49:40.895
<v Speaker 2>do waterproofing most manufacturers of the product will have a

0:49:40.975 --> 0:49:46.735
<v Speaker 2>licensing system, right, so only someone who is licensed to

0:49:46.855 --> 0:49:49.735
<v Speaker 2>install that product should be the person doing the installation

0:49:49.855 --> 0:49:56.255
<v Speaker 2>of that product in most cases. So I think that

0:49:56.335 --> 0:50:00.015
<v Speaker 2>you probably do have a claim because the person has

0:50:00.975 --> 0:50:06.255
<v Speaker 2>also by authoring the producer statement, they're implying a warranty, right,

0:50:06.335 --> 0:50:09.535
<v Speaker 2>and that warranty should at a very bare minimum extend

0:50:09.575 --> 0:50:12.735
<v Speaker 2>for ten years. It's failed within that ten year period,

0:50:13.095 --> 0:50:15.895
<v Speaker 2>they are then responsible for it. So I think you've

0:50:15.935 --> 0:50:20.415
<v Speaker 2>got a strong case to make, and you know, possibly

0:50:20.455 --> 0:50:22.295
<v Speaker 2>you go through the courts. Will possibly you just go

0:50:22.375 --> 0:50:26.375
<v Speaker 2>through the disputes tribernal and again problem you go on

0:50:26.615 --> 0:50:27.015
<v Speaker 2>the problem.

0:50:27.255 --> 0:50:30.415
<v Speaker 9>The problem we had is the man. Two things. The

0:50:30.455 --> 0:50:33.255
<v Speaker 9>man that did it no longer lives in the country,

0:50:33.855 --> 0:50:36.735
<v Speaker 9>and when he did it, he worked for our council.

0:50:36.855 --> 0:50:41.775
<v Speaker 9>Local council by all accounts, had to exit left very

0:50:41.815 --> 0:50:47.735
<v Speaker 9>quickly for some unknown reason. And yeah, so how do

0:50:47.775 --> 0:50:51.255
<v Speaker 9>we contact him? Do we go back through our lawyer

0:50:51.295 --> 0:50:53.575
<v Speaker 9>when we bought the property and contact their lawyer.

0:50:53.895 --> 0:50:56.655
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but look, if the person's overseas, your chances of

0:50:56.695 --> 0:50:59.455
<v Speaker 2>getting anything from them is to be blunt.

0:50:59.215 --> 0:50:59.975
<v Speaker 3>Just about zero.

0:51:00.135 --> 0:51:04.535
<v Speaker 2>And you probably already know that in your heart. The

0:51:04.575 --> 0:51:07.415
<v Speaker 2>other option is that I presume the building, after the

0:51:07.415 --> 0:51:11.535
<v Speaker 2>building consent was final, inspection took place, it did receive

0:51:11.735 --> 0:51:15.895
<v Speaker 2>a code compliance certificate. Yes it did, which means that

0:51:16.015 --> 0:51:22.335
<v Speaker 2>council takes responsibility, which means that you could try and

0:51:22.535 --> 0:51:23.375
<v Speaker 2>sue counsel.

0:51:24.535 --> 0:51:27.255
<v Speaker 9>We fought the council for two years for resource consent

0:51:27.375 --> 0:51:32.175
<v Speaker 9>was finally one. Ah, you councils are not fun to deal.

0:51:31.975 --> 0:51:35.935
<v Speaker 2>With, No, And look, they've they've got deep pockets and

0:51:35.975 --> 0:51:39.215
<v Speaker 2>they will fight it every step of the way. And

0:51:39.815 --> 0:51:42.095
<v Speaker 2>you know, we can't be too critical of that because

0:51:42.135 --> 0:51:47.335
<v Speaker 2>as rate payers, we want them to, you know, be

0:51:47.455 --> 0:51:48.695
<v Speaker 2>as Yeah.

0:51:50.055 --> 0:51:53.175
<v Speaker 9>We've already given the council a lot of for two years.

0:51:53.695 --> 0:51:58.015
<v Speaker 2>One I wonder whether you know, you could spend several

0:51:58.055 --> 0:52:00.615
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars trying to fight this or you could just

0:52:00.655 --> 0:52:02.735
<v Speaker 2>put that money into repairing it and just get on

0:52:02.815 --> 0:52:03.255
<v Speaker 2>with it.

0:52:03.855 --> 0:52:05.215
<v Speaker 4>Which is exactly what we're doing.

0:52:05.255 --> 0:52:08.335
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, and look at part of me hates

0:52:08.375 --> 0:52:10.855
<v Speaker 2>giving that sort of advice, but that's just kind of practical.

0:52:10.895 --> 0:52:15.215
<v Speaker 9>I think, yes, no, that's fine, Thank you, damn goodbye.

0:52:14.895 --> 0:52:17.175
<v Speaker 2>Damn hey, good to talk with you all the best.

0:52:17.535 --> 0:52:21.695
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Georgie, take care. Oh that's got to hurt. Oh wait,

0:52:21.695 --> 0:52:23.575
<v Speaker 2>one hundred eighty ten eighty is then i'mber to call

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<v Speaker 2>quick text before we go to the break. Gordon text

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<v Speaker 2>A a moment ago, um, a little while ago actually,

0:52:29.215 --> 0:52:31.495
<v Speaker 2>so sorry for the delay. Gordon. Hey, Pete. I want

0:52:31.535 --> 0:52:35.375
<v Speaker 2>to replace the polycarbonate roofing on my wooden framed greenhouse.

0:52:35.455 --> 0:52:39.695
<v Speaker 2>It is eighteen meters by six that's massive and four

0:52:39.775 --> 0:52:43.535
<v Speaker 2>meters high. I'll use a scaffold on the inside. That's clever.

0:52:44.095 --> 0:52:47.015
<v Speaker 2>Question on how do I replace the capping along the top?

0:52:47.095 --> 0:52:50.055
<v Speaker 2>Do I use plywood sheets to carefully walk on? I

0:52:50.055 --> 0:52:54.535
<v Speaker 2>can't find a roofer to do the job? Ah, Gordon, Yeah,

0:52:54.015 --> 0:52:56.775
<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably going to be. Your best bet

0:52:57.775 --> 0:53:01.535
<v Speaker 2>is to lay the sheets using the scaffold, so you

0:53:01.575 --> 0:53:03.535
<v Speaker 2>can work off that from the inside, so you're not

0:53:03.535 --> 0:53:06.775
<v Speaker 2>trying to stand on the sheets, particularly if you're Perlins

0:53:06.855 --> 0:53:09.535
<v Speaker 2>are let's say it, you know, more than nine hundred centers.

0:53:10.175 --> 0:53:12.975
<v Speaker 2>It's a big step from one Perlin to the other,

0:53:13.775 --> 0:53:17.735
<v Speaker 2>and you could quite easily see yourself going through the polycarbonate.

0:53:19.215 --> 0:53:21.735
<v Speaker 2>But maybe as you're laying it, you'll need to lay

0:53:22.135 --> 0:53:24.815
<v Speaker 2>sheets along the ridge line that you can then fix

0:53:24.935 --> 0:53:28.735
<v Speaker 2>the ridge capping too, and then take those sheets from

0:53:28.775 --> 0:53:30.975
<v Speaker 2>one end to the other, walking on the plywod until

0:53:31.015 --> 0:53:32.535
<v Speaker 2>you get to the end of the building and then

0:53:32.895 --> 0:53:35.895
<v Speaker 2>hopefully you've got a scaffold there you can load it

0:53:35.935 --> 0:53:41.415
<v Speaker 2>onto and go down from there. I can sort of

0:53:41.495 --> 0:53:43.855
<v Speaker 2>understand why you couldn't find a roofer to do the job.

0:53:43.935 --> 0:53:47.495
<v Speaker 2>To be fair, it is tricky. Oh eight one hundred

0:53:47.495 --> 0:53:50.575
<v Speaker 2>and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And

0:53:50.615 --> 0:53:53.095
<v Speaker 2>another quick text morning Pete. Can you tell me if

0:53:53.135 --> 0:53:55.415
<v Speaker 2>the government have relaxed the rules on tiny homes yet?

0:53:55.655 --> 0:53:58.415
<v Speaker 2>I'd need more information on that question. I don't. I

0:53:58.455 --> 0:54:02.015
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen anything recently on that as it happens. Actually

0:54:02.055 --> 0:54:05.455
<v Speaker 2>this week, I think on Thursday, I'm going out to

0:54:05.815 --> 0:54:10.895
<v Speaker 2>have a look at a fairly significant tiny home manufacturer

0:54:10.935 --> 0:54:14.375
<v Speaker 2>fabrication place. I'll have a bit of a chat with

0:54:14.415 --> 0:54:16.455
<v Speaker 2>them while i'm out there, I'm meeting the owners and

0:54:16.495 --> 0:54:18.095
<v Speaker 2>having a look around, and then I'm off down to

0:54:18.295 --> 0:54:21.695
<v Speaker 2>Hamilton Action on Thursday to look at a three D

0:54:21.815 --> 0:54:25.335
<v Speaker 2>printed house showroom for a three D printed house that's

0:54:25.415 --> 0:54:28.375
<v Speaker 2>just been done, so a factory tour and then a

0:54:28.375 --> 0:54:30.375
<v Speaker 2>bit of a look at this three D printed house

0:54:30.375 --> 0:54:32.615
<v Speaker 2>could be interesting as well. Oh eight hundred and eighty

0:54:32.695 --> 0:54:34.415
<v Speaker 2>ten eighty will take a short break. We'll be back

0:54:34.415 --> 0:54:37.535
<v Speaker 2>with Graham in just a moment. I mentioned earlier in

0:54:37.575 --> 0:54:40.055
<v Speaker 2>the show that I had a for me what felt

0:54:40.095 --> 0:54:42.655
<v Speaker 2>like a fantastic day yes today, puttering. Puttering is my

0:54:42.695 --> 0:54:45.855
<v Speaker 2>new word for twenty twenty five. Puttering, as I see it,

0:54:45.975 --> 0:54:51.575
<v Speaker 2>is the act of performing tasks that are practical and

0:54:51.655 --> 0:54:54.855
<v Speaker 2>achieve something. You fact something done, something that makes a difference,

0:54:54.855 --> 0:54:56.895
<v Speaker 2>but nobody else will notice it. And so I had

0:54:56.895 --> 0:54:59.775
<v Speaker 2>a puttering day yesterday where I had to take all

0:54:59.815 --> 0:55:02.015
<v Speaker 2>of my tools out of the back of the ute

0:55:02.335 --> 0:55:04.375
<v Speaker 2>when we went away for the weekend. So I loaded

0:55:04.375 --> 0:55:07.135
<v Speaker 2>everything into the shed and then before I put it

0:55:07.175 --> 0:55:09.535
<v Speaker 2>all back in, this was task number one for the

0:55:09.575 --> 0:55:12.655
<v Speaker 2>puttering was to go through I've got a set of

0:55:12.735 --> 0:55:14.215
<v Speaker 2>drawers that sit in the back of the ute that

0:55:14.255 --> 0:55:16.655
<v Speaker 2>I made out of plywood years ago. So I went

0:55:16.695 --> 0:55:19.375
<v Speaker 2>through all of those, cleaned them all out, got rid

0:55:19.415 --> 0:55:21.255
<v Speaker 2>of all the debris, got rid of stuff that I

0:55:21.375 --> 0:55:24.095
<v Speaker 2>don't use anymore or off cuts, and da da da

0:55:24.175 --> 0:55:27.615
<v Speaker 2>da clean that re established that back into there. I

0:55:27.655 --> 0:55:29.695
<v Speaker 2>had a hole lot of garden stakes that i'd taken

0:55:29.735 --> 0:55:32.455
<v Speaker 2>out from a job that still had the cloth around them.

0:55:32.455 --> 0:55:34.695
<v Speaker 2>So pulled out all the staples, got those tidied up.

0:55:35.855 --> 0:55:40.535
<v Speaker 2>I had bought a nifty little it's like an attachment

0:55:40.615 --> 0:55:42.735
<v Speaker 2>to a vacuum that if you're drilling a hole in

0:55:42.775 --> 0:55:45.655
<v Speaker 2>a wall and you plug the vacuum into this little attachment,

0:55:46.055 --> 0:55:49.095
<v Speaker 2>it sucks itself to the wall and sucks the dust.

0:55:49.455 --> 0:55:52.975
<v Speaker 2>It's brilliant anyway. So I needed somewhere to hold that up,

0:55:53.015 --> 0:55:56.015
<v Speaker 2>so I reorganized things in the workshop, made a little

0:55:56.015 --> 0:55:58.375
<v Speaker 2>holder for that and one for the square next to it.

0:55:59.295 --> 0:56:01.375
<v Speaker 2>Then in the back of my ute, I've got to

0:56:01.415 --> 0:56:04.495
<v Speaker 2>pull out tray that I made another platform on that

0:56:04.535 --> 0:56:05.695
<v Speaker 2>had a bit of a bend in it, So I

0:56:05.735 --> 0:56:08.415
<v Speaker 2>took that out, strengthened it with a bit of aluminium,

0:56:08.455 --> 0:56:10.575
<v Speaker 2>and then painted it. Put that back in. Done that.

0:56:11.135 --> 0:56:13.255
<v Speaker 2>We picked up a second hand brazier the other day

0:56:13.255 --> 0:56:16.415
<v Speaker 2>from the recycling center. I gave that a rust clean

0:56:16.615 --> 0:56:21.575
<v Speaker 2>and did that, mowed the lawns, cleaned out little paddling pool.

0:56:21.695 --> 0:56:24.255
<v Speaker 2>For some reason, used the little I've got a little

0:56:24.695 --> 0:56:28.095
<v Speaker 2>eighteen vault Rhyobi wet and dry vacuum cleaner, so it

0:56:28.135 --> 0:56:30.055
<v Speaker 2>looks like a lunch box. You can just carry it

0:56:30.055 --> 0:56:33.415
<v Speaker 2>around with you. So I took all of my tool bags,

0:56:33.615 --> 0:56:36.375
<v Speaker 2>so one with my power tools in it, one with

0:56:36.415 --> 0:56:39.175
<v Speaker 2>another set of power tools, another one with grinders and

0:56:39.335 --> 0:56:42.895
<v Speaker 2>bits and pieces, then and emptied all of those out,

0:56:43.135 --> 0:56:45.095
<v Speaker 2>sucked out all of the sawdust at the bottom of that,

0:56:45.215 --> 0:56:47.855
<v Speaker 2>and with the little Ryobi vac, cleaned out the Ryoby

0:56:47.935 --> 0:56:49.815
<v Speaker 2>vac because I'd used that the other day when I

0:56:49.855 --> 0:56:53.055
<v Speaker 2>was doing some concrete drilling on a job, and I

0:56:53.095 --> 0:56:54.815
<v Speaker 2>think I got a couple of other jobs done too.

0:56:55.375 --> 0:57:00.055
<v Speaker 2>It was fantastic puttering day. Awesome, took the whole day.

0:57:00.055 --> 0:57:01.935
<v Speaker 2>It got started nice and early. Guy came round to

0:57:01.935 --> 0:57:05.975
<v Speaker 2>pick up a garden roller. I had an antique garden roller.

0:57:07.135 --> 0:57:08.855
<v Speaker 2>I loved it, but anyway, it's time to move it on.

0:57:09.575 --> 0:57:12.375
<v Speaker 2>So he came picked it up seven thirty on Saturday morning.

0:57:12.415 --> 0:57:14.455
<v Speaker 2>Got a love a trade me purchase that goes I'll

0:57:14.495 --> 0:57:16.495
<v Speaker 2>be there at seven thirty on Saturday, and he was.

0:57:16.535 --> 0:57:19.295
<v Speaker 2>It was awesome. He turns out to be chippy as well,

0:57:19.335 --> 0:57:21.615
<v Speaker 2>so it was a bit of a chat. And anyway

0:57:21.655 --> 0:57:23.535
<v Speaker 2>that's gone. Now I'm on the hunt for a replacement

0:57:23.535 --> 0:57:26.255
<v Speaker 2>garden roller. We'll get round to that later on. I'm

0:57:26.295 --> 0:57:28.335
<v Speaker 2>in the market. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

0:57:28.375 --> 0:57:33.095
<v Speaker 2>is the number. Graham, Good morning, Good morning, a good buddy.

0:57:34.015 --> 0:57:34.215
<v Speaker 10>Hey.

0:57:34.615 --> 0:57:36.735
<v Speaker 11>I just i was listening to your show this morning,

0:57:36.775 --> 0:57:39.895
<v Speaker 11>and I've got some issues. Who has a good issue

0:57:39.895 --> 0:57:45.055
<v Speaker 11>in the council, but the sun Plaine issue.

0:57:45.255 --> 0:57:45.575
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:45.735 --> 0:57:48.575
<v Speaker 11>So, and there street on one side the street, the

0:57:48.615 --> 0:57:52.455
<v Speaker 11>back of the house below the street, yes, And some

0:57:52.495 --> 0:57:56.015
<v Speaker 11>of them are slightly below the footpath. And then you

0:57:56.135 --> 0:57:58.015
<v Speaker 11>come along as it gets further down to the street,

0:57:58.015 --> 0:58:00.015
<v Speaker 11>and the loans of mine, which is built on a

0:58:00.095 --> 0:58:05.975
<v Speaker 11>lava flower, is extually elevated right off yep. So anyway,

0:58:06.015 --> 0:58:08.615
<v Speaker 11>some of some of these houses got water ingress into

0:58:08.615 --> 0:58:12.175
<v Speaker 11>the down down stairs, and some of their backyards flooded.

0:58:12.735 --> 0:58:16.695
<v Speaker 11>And I was actually home when there's when those big

0:58:16.815 --> 0:58:20.175
<v Speaker 11>rains came through. Ye took some video footage and what

0:58:20.335 --> 0:58:25.055
<v Speaker 11>was actually going on. The drains weren running and and

0:58:25.135 --> 0:58:29.175
<v Speaker 11>the water was coming down the down the gunner six

0:58:29.215 --> 0:58:34.135
<v Speaker 11>feet wide heading the abutments to the driveways, and then

0:58:34.135 --> 0:58:36.575
<v Speaker 11>the pressure wave was sending it back uphill and then

0:58:36.655 --> 0:58:42.455
<v Speaker 11>down people's driveways right so shoes around and not seeing

0:58:42.495 --> 0:58:47.575
<v Speaker 11>their drains. But the funny thing is. So I've googled

0:58:47.575 --> 0:58:49.575
<v Speaker 11>the mat in the in the in the in the

0:58:49.695 --> 0:58:54.615
<v Speaker 11>very start of my driveway has a blue blue as

0:58:54.655 --> 0:58:55.335
<v Speaker 11>a pain on it.

0:58:56.855 --> 0:58:58.375
<v Speaker 2>They were oval and flow path.

0:59:00.055 --> 0:59:03.895
<v Speaker 11>Uh oh yeah, well that's a good point. I'm exactly

0:59:03.935 --> 0:59:06.895
<v Speaker 11>sure which one there is. But the nigh his house

0:59:07.535 --> 0:59:12.775
<v Speaker 11>who sits level with the road, their whole house has

0:59:12.775 --> 0:59:16.895
<v Speaker 11>scott blew all over. And then recently they got seen

0:59:16.975 --> 0:59:22.895
<v Speaker 11>to letter from the council saying hey, look we'll give

0:59:22.895 --> 0:59:24.695
<v Speaker 11>you eighty percent of the value and buy your house

0:59:24.975 --> 0:59:29.895
<v Speaker 11>because it's in this in this their house never flooded

0:59:29.935 --> 0:59:36.415
<v Speaker 11>at all. Mhm, never flooded. And I'm like, well, what's

0:59:36.495 --> 0:59:38.295
<v Speaker 11>going on? How's that? How's that even happening?

0:59:41.055 --> 0:59:44.095
<v Speaker 2>I suppose, especially you know in terms of like it

0:59:44.255 --> 0:59:46.975
<v Speaker 2>just will go back a couple of steps. So I've

0:59:47.015 --> 0:59:51.375
<v Speaker 2>been fascinated with this new flood viewer online tool.

0:59:51.495 --> 0:59:54.095
<v Speaker 11>Right, that's that's the one I'm talking about.

0:59:54.535 --> 0:59:58.335
<v Speaker 2>Now, that's one, and I presume at the stage, well,

0:59:58.375 --> 1:00:00.895
<v Speaker 2>all I know is I know Auckland Council's got one, right,

1:00:01.935 --> 1:00:06.655
<v Speaker 2>and and I'm involved with the local college and we

1:00:06.735 --> 1:00:10.535
<v Speaker 2>had you know, like that particular area there is an

1:00:10.535 --> 1:00:12.975
<v Speaker 2>overland flow path and we had a lot of water

1:00:13.535 --> 1:00:18.775
<v Speaker 2>through there and in that area, and so looking at

1:00:18.815 --> 1:00:22.655
<v Speaker 2>it now, it is remarkable to see the extent of

1:00:22.695 --> 1:00:26.495
<v Speaker 2>the floodplain. Right, So I can remember looking at Gis

1:00:27.135 --> 1:00:29.095
<v Speaker 2>three or four years ago and now you look at it,

1:00:29.495 --> 1:00:34.015
<v Speaker 2>and I found it fascinating at the precision of what

1:00:34.135 --> 1:00:36.855
<v Speaker 2>they've been able to map. And my understanding is it's

1:00:36.895 --> 1:00:39.975
<v Speaker 2>mapped off real data. So this is what they know.

1:00:40.495 --> 1:00:45.495
<v Speaker 2>This is where floodplains happen. But obviously if you're saying, hey,

1:00:45.495 --> 1:00:48.255
<v Speaker 2>look in this instance here, this one's being identified as

1:00:48.255 --> 1:00:51.335
<v Speaker 2>being in a floodplain, but in effect they had no flooding.

1:00:53.015 --> 1:00:55.015
<v Speaker 2>You know, do you have an opportunity to go back

1:00:55.055 --> 1:00:58.135
<v Speaker 2>to council or to planners to go actually in reality

1:00:58.215 --> 1:01:03.775
<v Speaker 2>that it just didn't happen. Because I'm aware of another

1:01:03.815 --> 1:01:07.255
<v Speaker 2>property that I know had extensive flooding, serious damage to

1:01:07.335 --> 1:01:09.615
<v Speaker 2>the property, which when I had a look on flood

1:01:09.695 --> 1:01:12.895
<v Speaker 2>view a flood you the other day, it's not even

1:01:12.935 --> 1:01:16.775
<v Speaker 2>highlighted and and there's no overland flow path that goes

1:01:16.815 --> 1:01:19.695
<v Speaker 2>through the property. And that was actually a situation similar

1:01:19.695 --> 1:01:22.255
<v Speaker 2>to yours, where the sheer volume of water that was

1:01:22.255 --> 1:01:25.815
<v Speaker 2>coming down the curb whipped around the corner and then

1:01:26.055 --> 1:01:28.495
<v Speaker 2>up and over. And in their instance, they didn't have

1:01:28.615 --> 1:01:31.295
<v Speaker 2>they had a driveway that sloped down to a basement,

1:01:31.695 --> 1:01:37.415
<v Speaker 2>and they had no they had pumps in the channel

1:01:37.495 --> 1:01:40.535
<v Speaker 2>and the catch pit, and once those got overwhelmed, there

1:01:40.575 --> 1:01:42.255
<v Speaker 2>was just nowhere else for the water to go.

1:01:43.175 --> 1:01:48.935
<v Speaker 11>Nowhere to go. Yeah, yeah, well these this because what

1:01:48.975 --> 1:01:52.215
<v Speaker 11>they did in the in the street reached the beautiful

1:01:52.575 --> 1:01:56.335
<v Speaker 11>and they came through and they put that slightly relates

1:01:56.375 --> 1:01:59.135
<v Speaker 11>to it, but they put the script down on it.

1:02:01.135 --> 1:02:01.455
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1:02:01.615 --> 1:02:05.095
<v Speaker 11>Yeah. And and for Ages because it could it gets

1:02:05.095 --> 1:02:09.055
<v Speaker 11>stramped into into my into my basement on tires the

1:02:09.135 --> 1:02:11.855
<v Speaker 11>least flower and I'd blow a mess of piles into

1:02:11.895 --> 1:02:15.335
<v Speaker 11>the gunner and then ring the counselor you need, you

1:02:15.375 --> 1:02:16.335
<v Speaker 11>need to pick all your crap.

1:02:16.495 --> 1:02:17.895
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, heading one.

1:02:17.775 --> 1:02:20.855
<v Speaker 11>Way into the into the one hundred yards here on

1:02:20.895 --> 1:02:23.215
<v Speaker 11>the street to low point in the storm orders. No

1:02:23.295 --> 1:02:26.655
<v Speaker 11>storm waterer in the street runs across down in the

1:02:26.655 --> 1:02:29.855
<v Speaker 11>bottom of the step. And of course I guess so

1:02:29.975 --> 1:02:33.815
<v Speaker 11>on cost saving measures, no one's cleaned to drains there

1:02:33.935 --> 1:02:37.135
<v Speaker 11>for Ages, and their big rain came and of course

1:02:37.855 --> 1:02:39.055
<v Speaker 11>they were hardly working.

1:02:38.815 --> 1:02:38.975
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1:02:39.295 --> 1:02:42.415
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And look I think that council have had quite

1:02:42.815 --> 1:02:45.855
<v Speaker 2>Auckland in particular, quite the wake up call where you know,

1:02:45.935 --> 1:02:48.895
<v Speaker 2>there's I guess it's not really sexy. Like if you

1:02:48.975 --> 1:02:51.215
<v Speaker 2>were like there's going to be local body elections this

1:02:51.295 --> 1:02:53.255
<v Speaker 2>year and council elections this year, and if you ran

1:02:53.295 --> 1:02:55.655
<v Speaker 2>on a campaign that said the only thing I want

1:02:55.655 --> 1:02:58.695
<v Speaker 2>a campaign for is to fix the pipes, you know

1:02:58.735 --> 1:03:00.775
<v Speaker 2>how many people would vote for you? Possibly quite a

1:03:00.775 --> 1:03:03.495
<v Speaker 2>few these days, I'm not sure, but yeah, probably, you know,

1:03:03.615 --> 1:03:06.135
<v Speaker 2>And I think for a long time, you know, checking

1:03:06.135 --> 1:03:09.375
<v Speaker 2>the pipes and that sort of thing hasn't been a priority.

1:03:10.855 --> 1:03:14.135
<v Speaker 2>I think it genuinely is nowadays. And I'm aware of

1:03:14.415 --> 1:03:17.935
<v Speaker 2>a couple of large public lines that when they did

1:03:17.975 --> 1:03:20.535
<v Speaker 2>finally get round to doing camera surveys and that sort

1:03:20.535 --> 1:03:23.255
<v Speaker 2>of thing, they found that they were fifty sixty percent

1:03:23.295 --> 1:03:27.175
<v Speaker 2>full of sediment. Right now, that's if you've got.

1:03:27.815 --> 1:03:29.855
<v Speaker 11>A lot of it's grit that they've been putting around

1:03:29.855 --> 1:03:34.055
<v Speaker 11>the neighborhood where yeah, and I have big arguments with

1:03:34.175 --> 1:03:38.055
<v Speaker 11>them over and obviously it was done about five six

1:03:38.135 --> 1:03:41.375
<v Speaker 11>years ago, maybe even seven, and I can still go

1:03:41.415 --> 1:03:43.295
<v Speaker 11>out there with a leaf blow and big a big pole.

1:03:43.095 --> 1:03:46.015
<v Speaker 2>Into the other whereas you know. My understanding is with

1:03:46.135 --> 1:03:48.175
<v Speaker 2>the chip is that they do the chip right and

1:03:48.215 --> 1:03:50.575
<v Speaker 2>then they come through with the sweepers and they let

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<v Speaker 2>it settle for a while and then they take the

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<v Speaker 2>excess away. But if they don't come back and sweep,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're right that that grit is going to end

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<v Speaker 2>up in the channel. Eventually it'll end up in the

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<v Speaker 2>catch pit. The catch pit then has got no volume,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they just over top.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and I honestly believe that's a lot of what

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<v Speaker 11>happened in our street because when it when it came down,

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<v Speaker 11>it so it was about six feet wide coming down

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<v Speaker 11>the gunner. As soon as I had those abutments, you

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<v Speaker 11>can see the pressure wave, yes, going back up and

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<v Speaker 11>I'm like, right this where it isn't where where I happened.

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<v Speaker 11>I have a double engine strike. My neighbors singles next,

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<v Speaker 11>so we've got freely wide. So it's sort of didn'

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<v Speaker 11>they have a chance to get at me. But I

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<v Speaker 11>can see how it would get to hers. Ob suggested

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<v Speaker 11>putting a speed up in the driveway enough to send

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<v Speaker 11>it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just to divert it you.

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<v Speaker 11>Needed to do. But it's caused a lot of inks

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<v Speaker 11>for people and these these two guys that have bought

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<v Speaker 11>the house next door to me. That's sort of like, well,

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<v Speaker 11>what's going on? And I'm like, mate, I'm telling it.

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<v Speaker 11>I was here in that place to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, particularly if you're lava flow or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, potentially there's there's more. They call the tomos

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<v Speaker 2>or what you know, the amazing.

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<v Speaker 11>That's how I got my drainage on the aqui for

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<v Speaker 11>water View YEP, at our hooks and there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great system if you can prove that it works.

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<v Speaker 2>I did one years ago where it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a volcanic area. We were able to drill down.

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<v Speaker 2>We then tested the sheer volume that it would accommodate,

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<v Speaker 2>and once we could prove that it would handle the rainfall,

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<v Speaker 2>then we could do storm water on site just by

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<v Speaker 2>simply dropping it straight down back into the ground. Great system,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's what that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a success thing. And then eventually it's south side

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<v Speaker 11>and down into it so that that main equa.

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<v Speaker 2>Funnily enough, the way that I did was an only hunger.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, hey, good of you to call good luck

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<v Speaker 2>with your neighbors, and thanks for raising that issue. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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<v Speaker 2>call seven thirty six here at Newstalk, se'd be call

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<v Speaker 2>us now. We've got time to take your calls through

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<v Speaker 2>till eight o'clock. After eight o'clock, real estate agent agency

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<v Speaker 2>owner and expert WAYE. Maguire is going to join me

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio. We're going to be talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>issue of I suppose declarations what you have to declare

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<v Speaker 2>in a sale and purchase agreement. So we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that after eight o'clock and happy to take any text

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got any questions on that. See now, people

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<v Speaker 2>are telling me that it's pottering. Puttering is the North

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<v Speaker 2>American version. I like the North American version to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind pottering. Pottering kind of implies that you're

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<v Speaker 2>just doing tasks, but more for amusement. Puttering seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have an urgency about it, as in, these are actually

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<v Speaker 2>jobs that will make a difference, just no one else

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<v Speaker 2>will notice it. So I'm sticking with puttering at the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Kate after the break Your News Talks e

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<v Speaker 2>B twenty minutes away from eight o'clock. Kate, A very

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<v Speaker 2>good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning pee, Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm siged, thank you and yourself bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>I've got these beautiful you uPVC windows and doors in

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<v Speaker 7>my new home. Very happy with them. And they were

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<v Speaker 7>delivered with a film protect the film on them, and

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<v Speaker 7>the house was painted and the scaffolding came down and

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<v Speaker 7>I asked a few times, when does that film come off?

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<v Speaker 7>Because it's covered in all this writing. It looks horrible,

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<v Speaker 7>and nobody did anything about it. That film stayed on

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<v Speaker 7>for weeks in the hot sun, and I eventually called

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<v Speaker 7>the builders have left the site with the film on

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<v Speaker 7>the window. And I called the manufacturer and he was

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<v Speaker 7>very distressed. He was wonderful. He came on Friday night,

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<v Speaker 7>he got a ladder in his business clothes. He was

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<v Speaker 7>climbing his ladder and peeling off the film. He said,

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<v Speaker 7>this should have come off weeks ago. This is negligence.

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<v Speaker 7>And now there's residue, bluey, sticky residue on there which

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<v Speaker 7>has taking the nice shiny surface away. And he said,

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<v Speaker 7>what you need to do is put some mefilated spirits

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<v Speaker 7>on it and then follow up with a damp cloth

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<v Speaker 7>and it will come off well. Some of the some

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<v Speaker 7>of the film is coming off in shreds. It's baked

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<v Speaker 7>on so hard from areas where the sun caught it.

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<v Speaker 7>So I tried this. I called the build it one

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<v Speaker 7>and called builders because they actually will only email me

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<v Speaker 7>now by many issues. If they're not they don't want

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<v Speaker 7>to deal with me. And so they said they'd send

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<v Speaker 7>the builder over the weekend. Of course, now it's not

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<v Speaker 7>great weather. But I tried a little bit of methylated

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<v Speaker 7>spirits and it didn't really do the job terribly well.

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<v Speaker 7>So I googled, and every Google site says, don't use

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<v Speaker 7>methylated spirits. You can use isoprobo alcohol or in a

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<v Speaker 7>heat gun ra that will read me a hair dryer.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm just not sure. I can talk to the

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<v Speaker 7>manufacturer again Tuesday. But of course it's a long weekend,

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<v Speaker 7>and if we get any more sun, which we today,

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<v Speaker 7>we're not. But I don't know what to do about this.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, it's really urgent. You need to not let

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<v Speaker 7>this bacon anymore. Sometimes I can see the writing from

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<v Speaker 7>the film in the glue of the window. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 7>if you've got experience of this having been snored and

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<v Speaker 7>that's for too long and what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's incredibly frustrating. I can certainly understand that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the protective film is there to protect it during construction

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<v Speaker 2>and then ideally it's removed as soon as any painting

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<v Speaker 2>or scaffolding comes down. I think the fact that you've

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to the manufacturer and listen, I would listen

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<v Speaker 2>to their recommendations. I think the fact that you've gone

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<v Speaker 2>to Google is great. But you know, I good on

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<v Speaker 2>them for coming out, and I suspect I know who

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<v Speaker 2>that company is, so look, I think it is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Mislad Spirits. I think it is going to

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<v Speaker 2>just be a really time consuming task. I think, just

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<v Speaker 2>being realistic, the chances of getting the builder to come

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<v Speaker 2>back and do it is unlikely. Whether or not you

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<v Speaker 2>could then get a contractor to come in and do

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<v Speaker 2>that work, and it's just diligence. It's just time, right

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<v Speaker 2>time and attention to detail. Yeah, whether or not you

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<v Speaker 2>could make me.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, does this fall under naked?

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<v Speaker 2>See. What's really interesting for LBPS now is, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>speaking as an LBP myself, is there is now a

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<v Speaker 2>code of ethics and it's been around since about two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and two, I think. And just go and google

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<v Speaker 2>LBP Code of Ethics, it'll take you to the LBP website.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it really clear around some responsibilities that we

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<v Speaker 2>have in terms of how we behave right and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know there is you could remind the LVP of

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<v Speaker 2>their responsibilities under the Code of Ethics and and that's

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<v Speaker 2>things like informing clients. So for example, if they decided

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<v Speaker 2>that they were not going to take off the film

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<v Speaker 2>and that it was going to become your responsibility, they

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<v Speaker 2>should let you know if you know, if it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that they should have done and should reasonably have known

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<v Speaker 2>that they should have done, and they didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>then you could say, well, look it was part of

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<v Speaker 2>your task. If you installed the joinery, then you're also

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<v Speaker 2>there to remove it. In the same way that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>roofers that install flashings know that they have to remove

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<v Speaker 2>the the there's often a plastic film on flashings, so

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<v Speaker 2>typically when a roofer installs them, they remove them right.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't put them on with them on and wait

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<v Speaker 2>for someone else to take them off. Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at the Code of Ethics.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have.

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<v Speaker 7>I understand about the code of ethics, been there and

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<v Speaker 7>oh okay, send a screenshot of it to the builder.

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<v Speaker 7>But some of the writing on the film says remove

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<v Speaker 7>after installation. Yeah, it's right there, it's all over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did the builder install the joinery or did the

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<v Speaker 2>contractor from the manufacturer install the joinery? The builder did, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine, But then yeah, it's part of their

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility to remove it. They haven't if it's unlikely that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to come back and do anything, or certainly

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<v Speaker 2>not with any urgency, in which case you could get

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<v Speaker 2>a contractor in to give you a price. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to send that to the builder. You have to say

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to cost me this much because there is

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<v Speaker 2>a first ride of refusal, right so or rectify. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go back to the contractor to say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have to spend this much money to

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<v Speaker 2>have this repaired. Either you're going to do it or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to spend the money. But you do have

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<v Speaker 2>to give them the opportunity of fixing it in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh okay, it was sort of contract you would do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh. I used to. I had a guy come and

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<v Speaker 2>do some work for us a little while ago who

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<v Speaker 2>actually was a sign writer, but he was and what

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<v Speaker 2>we needed him to do was clean off swarf and

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing from long run metal installation, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just a guy who was meticulous. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's all you need, just someone who's got patience and

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<v Speaker 2>determination to come and do it. It might be a

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<v Speaker 2>professional cleaner, it might be a joinery installation person, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be another builder, just someone with the right attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>A number of people have texted and said the isopropyl

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol is much better than meths for cleaning the glass,

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<v Speaker 2>but the film wouldn't be on the glass, It'll just

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<v Speaker 2>be on the extrusion.

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<v Speaker 7>Correct. There's a little of the little marks on the

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<v Speaker 7>glass from small stickers, but I can deal with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have it go, you can buy I bought some

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, actually, little spray bottle of icopropel alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Try that. If it's more effective than meths, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you know, i'd listen to the manufacturer

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<v Speaker 2>about their recommendation.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I actually, yeah, do ask the manufacturer about that,

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<v Speaker 7>and he said no.

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<v Speaker 2>To it, just strong. Okay, Oh, well then then go

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<v Speaker 2>with the mess just down the line. I'll just get

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<v Speaker 2>you to tell my producer as I who the manufacturers

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to know, but yeah, just down the line, Kate,

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<v Speaker 2>if Isaiah will ask you that question in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming up twelve minutes away from eight eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty ten eighties. The number to call will take

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<v Speaker 2>your calls right up to the news at eight. After

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<v Speaker 2>the news at eight o'clock, we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne Maguire who's from ray White's Realty. Been in the

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<v Speaker 2>business for a long time. I'm really curious around this

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<v Speaker 2>whole sale and purchase and as a vendor, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you need to declare? And I mean it's interesting it

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<v Speaker 2>came up just with Georgie straight after the eight o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>news talking about a shower that are being poorly built

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<v Speaker 2>and intrigued there that someone was able to issue a

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<v Speaker 2>producer statement without being qualified to do so, and that

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<v Speaker 2>that got accepted by counsel. Those sorts of things. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's a new sale and purchase agreement, no, there's no problem,

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<v Speaker 2>but you are aware of a problem. What what declarations

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<v Speaker 2>do you have to make and what responsibility do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to declare? What you may know, particularly in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of defects about a house before you sell it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call call

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<v Speaker 2>us Now we'll take short break back with your calls

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment, you and we're taking your calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Hello, Paul, Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Pete.

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<v Speaker 6>The other week, you were talking about your usual paint

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<v Speaker 6>company's acrylic paint remote. Yes, is that called latex paint remoter?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is, because that's what the frame. They obviously

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<v Speaker 2>get it from the state, and that's typically how they

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<v Speaker 2>describe acrylic paints in the state. So latex paint remover.

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<v Speaker 6>Cook and how old paint will it remove? You know,

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<v Speaker 6>how long have the paint's been on the air for weeks? Months?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that it would necessarily matter because in

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<v Speaker 2>the end, I mean, I was using some water born

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<v Speaker 2>enamel paint yesterday to paint this tray that sits in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of my ute, right, so I guess it's on.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes two hours to dry, then it's dry. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that it makes a difference whether it's two hours,

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, or two years.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Okay, all right, I'll give it a go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's probably more designed for you know, patches,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's not a paint stripper if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to paint.

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<v Speaker 6>Strip patches, you know, but yeah, that's what I want

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<v Speaker 6>to remove.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, like I you know, it's probably one of

1:17:03.495 --> 1:17:07.415
<v Speaker 2>those situations I've said property the other day and you could,

1:17:07.415 --> 1:17:10.335
<v Speaker 2>you know, the painter had done a really slap dash

1:17:10.455 --> 1:17:12.815
<v Speaker 2>job and there was bits of paint all over the

1:17:12.815 --> 1:17:16.575
<v Speaker 2>aluminium extrusion and I guess it's for that type of task.

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<v Speaker 6>Good, yeah, excellent, all right, all right, give it a go,

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<v Speaker 6>all right, make all.

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<v Speaker 2>The best, take care, take care, all the best. A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of quick texts as well. Hey, Pete spied you

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<v Speaker 2>on an episode of The Block the other day. You're right,

1:17:30.295 --> 1:17:36.735
<v Speaker 2>actually the Block Australia, Tony very eager eyed listeners on

1:17:36.815 --> 1:17:40.575
<v Speaker 2>the show. I got a message through social media the

1:17:40.615 --> 1:17:42.935
<v Speaker 2>other day too so and look, to be fair, I

1:17:43.775 --> 1:17:47.615
<v Speaker 2>was not sure whether there would be any footage or

1:17:47.615 --> 1:17:49.935
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. I certainly didn't go with the intention

1:17:50.015 --> 1:17:52.855
<v Speaker 2>of being on camera, but I did have a very

1:17:52.855 --> 1:17:57.855
<v Speaker 2>delightful day wandering around the site with Julian Cress, who's

1:17:57.895 --> 1:18:00.775
<v Speaker 2>the producer and the originator of the show. He was

1:18:00.895 --> 1:18:03.815
<v Speaker 2>very generous with his time and just a fantastic guy.

1:18:04.695 --> 1:18:07.495
<v Speaker 2>Spoke with him for quite some time, had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to meet good old Scotti, Cam and Shelley and Dan

1:18:10.975 --> 1:18:15.215
<v Speaker 2>as well, and sort of wandered around watching them work.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously I'm familiar with it, given that I did

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<v Speaker 2>it for ten years on the block here in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's quite interesting being on the other side of it,

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<v Speaker 2>watching the production, watching the way in which the story

1:18:25.255 --> 1:18:28.055
<v Speaker 2>produces and the camera crew work and the way that

1:18:28.095 --> 1:18:31.495
<v Speaker 2>it's organized there. Ended up that night going out for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner with actually Robert from Felax, was good of my

1:18:35.615 --> 1:18:38.815
<v Speaker 2>host at that time, and then ended up going out

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<v Speaker 2>to dinner with two of the guys from nine and

1:18:40.495 --> 1:18:44.455
<v Speaker 2>six who are the main construction company and they effectively

1:18:44.535 --> 1:18:47.455
<v Speaker 2>run the site due all of the management of the

1:18:47.535 --> 1:18:49.855
<v Speaker 2>subcontractors and they do the bill. So I had dinner

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<v Speaker 2>with a couple of the guys from nine and six,

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<v Speaker 2>spent a bit of time with Scotty, gave them a

1:18:55.415 --> 1:18:58.255
<v Speaker 2>nice bottle of wine and had a bit of a

1:18:58.335 --> 1:19:00.855
<v Speaker 2>chat and followed them around. And yes, there I was

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of the shot the other day. I've

1:19:02.855 --> 1:19:04.735
<v Speaker 2>put that out actually, a couple of photographs on my

1:19:04.895 --> 1:19:08.095
<v Speaker 2>Facebook page. So if you can't have look for resident

1:19:08.135 --> 1:19:11.575
<v Speaker 2>builder or people Camp on Facebook you'll find it there.

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<v Speaker 2>But had it. It was a great time. It's back

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<v Speaker 2>in gosh when was it May? Middle of May of

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Don't tell me what the outcome is. I'm

1:19:21.415 --> 1:19:23.255
<v Speaker 2>still hoping that it's going to be a surprise for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be on sometime next week. Oh, eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got a question of a building nature. Well,

1:19:30.735 --> 1:19:33.055
<v Speaker 2>actually we've run out of time for building questions, But

1:19:33.335 --> 1:19:36.895
<v Speaker 2>if you've got a real estate question, particularly around sale

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<v Speaker 2>and purchase and disclosure, text it through on nine to

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<v Speaker 2>nine two because Wayne Maguire from Ray White's Realty, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to join me after the eight o'clock news and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about this really intriguing case that

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<v Speaker 2>came up just a couple of weeks ago. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do that after eight o'clock Your News Talk, seid B News,

1:19:57.295 --> 1:20:00.015
<v Speaker 2>Sport and Weather, Top of the hour at eight your

1:20:00.055 --> 1:20:02.455
<v Speaker 2>News Talk, said B people camp with you this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is a great pleasure this morning to have

1:20:05.175 --> 1:20:07.855
<v Speaker 2>in the studio. I'll get the right microphone. I'll bring

1:20:07.895 --> 1:20:11.295
<v Speaker 2>it up Wayne Maguire, who I was saying as we

1:20:11.375 --> 1:20:14.615
<v Speaker 2>came up in the elevator, pretty much exactly two years

1:20:14.655 --> 1:20:16.255
<v Speaker 2>ago since we had you here in the studio. I

1:20:16.255 --> 1:20:18.055
<v Speaker 2>don't know where those two years have gone. But hey,

1:20:18.095 --> 1:20:20.175
<v Speaker 2>great to see you again. Thanks very much for coming in.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, great to be with you, Peter. And hopefully I

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<v Speaker 10>can add a bit of value.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, look, I know that, And thanks for your

1:20:26.375 --> 1:20:29.415
<v Speaker 2>time on the phone this week. So the beginning of

1:20:29.455 --> 1:20:31.575
<v Speaker 2>this was a phone call a couple of weeks ago

1:20:31.735 --> 1:20:34.615
<v Speaker 2>where a caller said, look, I've just been through a

1:20:34.615 --> 1:20:38.255
<v Speaker 2>situation where I purchased the house two years ago. I've

1:20:38.295 --> 1:20:40.655
<v Speaker 2>then found that there were some defects in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I've investigated it found that the vendor, the person who

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<v Speaker 2>sold me the house, was aware of the defects but

1:20:48.495 --> 1:20:51.255
<v Speaker 2>did not disclose them in the sale and purchase agreement.

1:20:51.815 --> 1:20:54.255
<v Speaker 2>And I've been able to prove that. I've gone to

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<v Speaker 2>the dispute tribunal and they've found in my favor and

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<v Speaker 2>I've got twenty grand out of them. Oh okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>it started me thinking about crikey. What is it in

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<v Speaker 2>a sale and purchase agreement that a vendor has to declare?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, great point to raise. And there's a couple of documents,

1:21:13.535 --> 1:21:15.015
<v Speaker 10>to be honest. So it's going to be the salent

1:21:15.055 --> 1:21:18.295
<v Speaker 10>purchase agreement. Yes, And that's a contract between the buyer

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<v Speaker 10>and the seller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 10>And inherently, and there is warranties, you know, vendor warranties

1:21:22.815 --> 1:21:25.255
<v Speaker 10>we call them. Yeah. And in the warranties you're saying

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<v Speaker 10>in escence, you're saying, anything I've done while I've owned

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<v Speaker 10>the property that needed a consent, I made sure it

1:21:32.975 --> 1:21:34.735
<v Speaker 10>had a concent of mad Sure, it's been done as

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<v Speaker 10>per the concent of mad Sure, it's had sign off,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, a co compliance certificate, and of made sure.

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<v Speaker 10>I've given away no rights, you know to the property.

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<v Speaker 10>You haven't allowed the nighbor to build or do anything different.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're looking for that, Okay, Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 10>Think about that in your Salem purchase. So that covers

1:21:51.775 --> 1:21:54.935
<v Speaker 10>the period while the vendors owned it. But we actually

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<v Speaker 10>go further. We actually go what happened before and what

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<v Speaker 10>else is going on with the property. So I think

1:22:00.375 --> 1:22:02.535
<v Speaker 10>you've got to go a bit wider you've really Now

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<v Speaker 10>if we jump back a step, Peter, and we go

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<v Speaker 10>back to the listing point, and this is the contract

1:22:07.975 --> 1:22:12.575
<v Speaker 10>between the vendor and the agent. Okay, ask then, and

1:22:12.655 --> 1:22:14.535
<v Speaker 10>there we're asking lots of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Now slightly tricky question for you. So let's say I'm

1:22:19.975 --> 1:22:22.295
<v Speaker 2>about to sell my house and I decide, right, I

1:22:22.375 --> 1:22:25.695
<v Speaker 2>want to list it with you this choice it would

1:22:25.735 --> 1:22:27.655
<v Speaker 2>be a good choice, but we don't live in the

1:22:27.655 --> 1:22:31.615
<v Speaker 2>same area. But anyway, so I decide that I'm going

1:22:31.655 --> 1:22:33.735
<v Speaker 2>to sell the house. I want to list with an agent.

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<v Speaker 2>So in terms of your agency, you would then sit

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<v Speaker 2>with me and go through what sounds like quite an

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<v Speaker 2>extensive questioning. Okay, and what's included in that?

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<v Speaker 10>So there's an agency for more. The big agents or

1:22:47.735 --> 1:22:49.695
<v Speaker 10>agencies are about the same, you know, they've got the

1:22:49.735 --> 1:22:52.775
<v Speaker 10>same sort of questions, which is have there been any

1:22:52.815 --> 1:22:55.215
<v Speaker 10>events at the property? Has there been any damage on

1:22:55.255 --> 1:22:58.455
<v Speaker 10>the property, any flooding? Is there any problems? You know,

1:22:59.735 --> 1:23:02.615
<v Speaker 10>it just keeps going and going and going. At our

1:23:02.695 --> 1:23:05.895
<v Speaker 10>team sitting out with Ray White and the base, we

1:23:05.975 --> 1:23:10.335
<v Speaker 10>add even more pages. So we've got another list and

1:23:10.375 --> 1:23:13.455
<v Speaker 10>it just asks everything and it actually asks everything that

1:23:13.495 --> 1:23:16.495
<v Speaker 10>we've seen is a problem in the past, we ask again,

1:23:17.375 --> 1:23:19.735
<v Speaker 10>So if we've seen it pop up on another house,

1:23:19.775 --> 1:23:22.215
<v Speaker 10>we ask on this out. Yeah. So there the vendor

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<v Speaker 10>makes the declaration. It's a yes or no. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>has there been a problem?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 10>Or unknown?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Now, if a vendor you know, because not all

1:23:31.135 --> 1:23:34.175
<v Speaker 2>of us are building experts, right, and you know, I've

1:23:34.215 --> 1:23:37.055
<v Speaker 2>met people that couldn't describe what sort of clatting they

1:23:37.095 --> 1:23:40.815
<v Speaker 2>have right on their house. So and that's okay. So

1:23:40.935 --> 1:23:44.895
<v Speaker 2>if you have little knowledge and you don't know and

1:23:44.935 --> 1:23:47.015
<v Speaker 2>you take unknown, is that fair?

1:23:47.415 --> 1:23:47.575
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>It is fair. It is fair. And to a degree,

1:23:49.855 --> 1:23:52.295
<v Speaker 10>the agent's in the same boat. Now, they should obviously

1:23:52.375 --> 1:23:54.335
<v Speaker 10>know the exterior clatting and they're going to know which

1:23:54.335 --> 1:23:56.735
<v Speaker 10>ones have got more risk, and they've got to tell

1:23:56.775 --> 1:23:59.535
<v Speaker 10>a buyer about that. You know that this is a

1:23:59.575 --> 1:24:04.855
<v Speaker 10>monolothical plastic. Sure, they'll highlight that for them. If it's

1:24:04.935 --> 1:24:07.455
<v Speaker 10>something that's buried in the agent can't see it or

1:24:07.535 --> 1:24:09.815
<v Speaker 10>the owner can't see it, that's cool. But if they

1:24:09.855 --> 1:24:12.375
<v Speaker 10>should be aware of it, yes, then they've got to

1:24:12.375 --> 1:24:14.455
<v Speaker 10>do something about it. So the agent actually gives the

1:24:14.495 --> 1:24:17.935
<v Speaker 10>vendor a bit of guidance. Here's the interesting thing. The

1:24:18.055 --> 1:24:20.815
<v Speaker 10>vendor can take the guidance or not. So this this

1:24:20.895 --> 1:24:22.295
<v Speaker 10>is going to be I think this is going to

1:24:22.295 --> 1:24:25.255
<v Speaker 10>surprise a lot of people. The vendor can say, yep,

1:24:25.295 --> 1:24:27.815
<v Speaker 10>I've got a problem, but you're not allowed to tell anybody.

1:24:28.575 --> 1:24:33.055
<v Speaker 10>You imagine that the agent has then has to caution

1:24:33.135 --> 1:24:36.135
<v Speaker 10>the vendor and say we should disclose it. But if

1:24:36.215 --> 1:24:38.495
<v Speaker 10>you don't want to disclose it, I have to walk

1:24:38.535 --> 1:24:40.335
<v Speaker 10>away from the listing. I can't represent you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do all agents have to walk away from the list?

1:24:44.895 --> 1:24:45.095
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1:24:45.375 --> 1:24:50.455
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's it's Aria rules, government rules. Yeah, absolutely, all right.

1:24:50.495 --> 1:24:53.215
<v Speaker 2>So if I decide, well, look, I've I've done something.

1:24:53.255 --> 1:24:55.935
<v Speaker 2>I know it's slightly dodgy, but I you know, I

1:24:55.975 --> 1:24:58.975
<v Speaker 2>don't want to tell you, then you should walk away.

1:24:59.015 --> 1:25:02.535
<v Speaker 2>Let's say you are aware that you know, maybe you

1:25:02.695 --> 1:25:04.695
<v Speaker 2>added a deck and you kind of knew that you

1:25:04.775 --> 1:25:07.815
<v Speaker 2>needed consent for it, but you didn't get one, or

1:25:07.935 --> 1:25:10.415
<v Speaker 2>you as an agent realized, well, hang on, that decks

1:25:10.615 --> 1:25:12.535
<v Speaker 2>over a meter high and it doesn't have a handrail

1:25:12.575 --> 1:25:15.815
<v Speaker 2>in and should have something like that. Basic practical stuff

1:25:15.815 --> 1:25:18.695
<v Speaker 2>that from your experience you'd know about. What's the process?

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<v Speaker 2>Then what would you do in the listing.

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<v Speaker 10>Noted on the listing. Yep, make sure you disclose it

1:25:24.055 --> 1:25:27.175
<v Speaker 10>to the buyers. Yes, so in fact that check sheet.

1:25:28.055 --> 1:25:29.895
<v Speaker 10>When we first did it, I thought, oh my god,

1:25:29.935 --> 1:25:31.895
<v Speaker 10>look the vendors are going to get pretty ansy about this.

1:25:33.255 --> 1:25:38.135
<v Speaker 10>We're explaining everything. But we actually added a little bit

1:25:38.175 --> 1:25:39.975
<v Speaker 10>at the end. It was pretty cool. We actually added,

1:25:40.695 --> 1:25:42.855
<v Speaker 10>you know, the vendor discloses you know, this is everything,

1:25:42.935 --> 1:25:45.495
<v Speaker 10>and the agent's aware of it. And the agent must

1:25:45.495 --> 1:25:47.495
<v Speaker 10>tell the buyer before the buyer makes an offer. All

1:25:47.495 --> 1:25:50.095
<v Speaker 10>bids at auction and then they sign it. So we

1:25:50.135 --> 1:25:53.055
<v Speaker 10>now give it to all buyers. So the problem that

1:25:53.135 --> 1:25:56.655
<v Speaker 10>you described that costs somebody twenty thousand dollars. If we've

1:25:56.655 --> 1:25:58.575
<v Speaker 10>got a problem and we've told them about it and

1:25:58.575 --> 1:26:02.295
<v Speaker 10>we've made it very clear to the buyer and they proceed,

1:26:02.655 --> 1:26:05.855
<v Speaker 10>then the buyer owns at and you can and sorry, Peter,

1:26:05.935 --> 1:26:08.295
<v Speaker 10>you can. There's a clause in the contract. So we

1:26:08.375 --> 1:26:12.575
<v Speaker 10>may have clauses saying look there's unconsented work may or

1:26:12.615 --> 1:26:18.055
<v Speaker 10>may not required. Bathroom is a good example. Everybody tells it,

1:26:18.095 --> 1:26:22.455
<v Speaker 10>tells us the bathroom was like for like, yeah, no

1:26:22.495 --> 1:26:26.255
<v Speaker 10>one ever moved anything in Orca. So you've got to

1:26:26.295 --> 1:26:29.495
<v Speaker 10>be pretty careful about that, and now vendors making a

1:26:29.575 --> 1:26:32.295
<v Speaker 10>warranty on that, so they've got to be pretty careful,

1:26:32.415 --> 1:26:36.295
<v Speaker 10>or producer statements, checking up on producer statements and sign offs.

1:26:36.615 --> 1:26:39.535
<v Speaker 10>So sometimes if it's unclear, we'll have a clause just

1:26:39.575 --> 1:26:42.535
<v Speaker 10>saying it's unclear yep, may or not, may or may

1:26:42.535 --> 1:26:46.375
<v Speaker 10>not have required a consent, yes, and then the person procedure.

1:26:46.495 --> 1:26:51.975
<v Speaker 2>But it's all around that disclosure. Yeah, yeah, okay, And

1:26:52.015 --> 1:26:54.535
<v Speaker 2>obviously in terms of sale and purchase, you know, if

1:26:54.575 --> 1:26:57.615
<v Speaker 2>there's work that needed a consent but clearly didn't have one,

1:26:57.695 --> 1:27:00.055
<v Speaker 2>you can still put a property on the market. Yep,

1:27:00.175 --> 1:27:03.455
<v Speaker 2>with that as long as you declare it. Absolutely, absolutely,

1:27:05.135 --> 1:27:07.935
<v Speaker 2>just I'm just thinking about this particular case. So in

1:27:07.975 --> 1:27:12.175
<v Speaker 2>this instance here, the vendor was, for want of a

1:27:12.175 --> 1:27:16.815
<v Speaker 2>better term, duplicitous, right, they were aware that there was

1:27:16.855 --> 1:27:19.855
<v Speaker 2>a defect. They didn't declare that in the sale and

1:27:19.855 --> 1:27:23.655
<v Speaker 2>purchase agreement. Is it that that would have allowed the

1:27:23.695 --> 1:27:28.375
<v Speaker 2>new owner to seek redress from them? The fact that

1:27:28.415 --> 1:27:29.495
<v Speaker 2>they didn't declare it.

1:27:30.255 --> 1:27:32.575
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they were aware of you if you took that

1:27:32.855 --> 1:27:35.375
<v Speaker 10>as being the facts, they were aware of it, They

1:27:35.455 --> 1:27:38.695
<v Speaker 10>had it and tried to get away with it. So

1:27:38.735 --> 1:27:40.415
<v Speaker 10>if I'm talking to a vendor, I'll say, if you

1:27:40.495 --> 1:27:43.975
<v Speaker 10>know something, let's just tell them. And here's what I found, Peter.

1:27:45.175 --> 1:27:47.695
<v Speaker 10>If you tell a buyer early enough, if a buyer

1:27:48.015 --> 1:27:50.935
<v Speaker 10>loves the property, yes, yeah, And this is what they

1:27:50.975 --> 1:27:52.655
<v Speaker 10>sound like when they love a property. They say, when

1:27:52.695 --> 1:27:55.175
<v Speaker 10>I don't really like it, that's that's a code for

1:27:55.255 --> 1:27:57.615
<v Speaker 10>I really loved this. We really want to be you know.

1:27:58.495 --> 1:28:00.775
<v Speaker 10>Then if you tell them about the problems up front,

1:28:00.815 --> 1:28:02.775
<v Speaker 10>they still love it. Sure, and they want to jump

1:28:02.815 --> 1:28:04.855
<v Speaker 10>through hoops the same as we do a building inspection

1:28:05.335 --> 1:28:08.295
<v Speaker 10>and it finds some use. The buyer hates that as

1:28:08.375 --> 1:28:11.175
<v Speaker 10>much as the vendor. You know, they want that house. Yeah,

1:28:11.335 --> 1:28:13.935
<v Speaker 10>So if you disclose upfront and they're aware of it,

1:28:13.975 --> 1:28:18.535
<v Speaker 10>then absolutely In that case, the vendor had something. It's

1:28:18.575 --> 1:28:23.295
<v Speaker 10>interesting somehow they found out or discovered that. And Auckland,

1:28:23.935 --> 1:28:27.815
<v Speaker 10>New Zealand, such a small little village that you know,

1:28:27.935 --> 1:28:30.175
<v Speaker 10>probably the first builder they had through the house to

1:28:30.215 --> 1:28:32.335
<v Speaker 10>do something said oh yeah, I checked this for the

1:28:32.415 --> 1:28:36.135
<v Speaker 10>last owner. It tells them. Yeah, it's a pretty small world.

1:28:36.375 --> 1:28:36.455
<v Speaker 6>Ye.

1:28:36.895 --> 1:28:39.495
<v Speaker 10>So those sorts of things happen. So yeah, if you

1:28:39.535 --> 1:28:42.095
<v Speaker 10>know something, tell them if you think there might be

1:28:42.135 --> 1:28:45.695
<v Speaker 10>a problem, investigate and then tell them yep.

1:28:46.615 --> 1:28:48.815
<v Speaker 2>But it is quite clear in the sale and purchase

1:28:48.855 --> 1:28:52.095
<v Speaker 2>agreement what level of disclosure you're expected yep.

1:28:52.375 --> 1:28:56.375
<v Speaker 10>Okay, which is around work you have done right now,

1:28:56.415 --> 1:28:59.575
<v Speaker 10>it's silent on previous works, yes, but inherent in the

1:28:59.975 --> 1:29:03.375
<v Speaker 10>contractors that you haven't misled them. So if you're aware

1:29:03.455 --> 1:29:05.655
<v Speaker 10>of previous I think you should look at that decks

1:29:05.695 --> 1:29:08.455
<v Speaker 10>or a good exams so I won't earnly be building,

1:29:08.495 --> 1:29:11.175
<v Speaker 10>it will be title. Somebody has added a deck on

1:29:11.215 --> 1:29:14.415
<v Speaker 10>a cross lease or a balcony, and now the footprint

1:29:14.415 --> 1:29:17.375
<v Speaker 10>looks different, yeah, and somebody goes, well it's always been

1:29:17.455 --> 1:29:20.095
<v Speaker 10>like that, Yeah, but you know what the rules are

1:29:20.095 --> 1:29:22.775
<v Speaker 10>tighter now. You know, people are making discovery.

1:29:22.535 --> 1:29:24.375
<v Speaker 2>Just on that whole cross Ley's thing, because it's come

1:29:24.455 --> 1:29:26.775
<v Speaker 2>up with some friends of mine that have purchased recently

1:29:26.895 --> 1:29:29.695
<v Speaker 2>where you know, when they're doing the due diligence, they've

1:29:29.735 --> 1:29:32.575
<v Speaker 2>found that, in fact, the other property on the cross

1:29:32.655 --> 1:29:35.895
<v Speaker 2>lease added for example, a deck or a balcony, didn't

1:29:35.975 --> 1:29:39.255
<v Speaker 2>update the flats plan correct. That can be quite an.

1:29:39.095 --> 1:29:43.335
<v Speaker 10>Issue absolutely, So now the flats plan is defective. Right,

1:29:43.815 --> 1:29:46.815
<v Speaker 10>So yeah, here's the evolution of a realistat agent. You know,

1:29:46.895 --> 1:29:50.335
<v Speaker 10>and I don't record this, but I know anybody listening

1:29:50.375 --> 1:29:53.655
<v Speaker 10>stop listening. You know, twenty years ago it was you know,

1:29:53.695 --> 1:29:56.455
<v Speaker 10>we we sort of didn't want to hear anything, didn't

1:29:56.455 --> 1:29:57.135
<v Speaker 10>want to know anything.

1:29:57.215 --> 1:30:00.495
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sure, and industry ran you know, yes.

1:30:00.735 --> 1:30:04.175
<v Speaker 10>Then it became more, well, if you know about it,

1:30:04.175 --> 1:30:06.615
<v Speaker 10>you should do something about it. And then it came

1:30:07.255 --> 1:30:12.015
<v Speaker 10>you should actually discover and have some intelligence around looking

1:30:12.055 --> 1:30:16.095
<v Speaker 10>for what might be a problem because they exist. And

1:30:16.135 --> 1:30:19.935
<v Speaker 10>then on top of that, also sort of halfway through

1:30:19.935 --> 1:30:22.295
<v Speaker 10>that period was if the vendicit it's all okay, you went,

1:30:22.335 --> 1:30:25.055
<v Speaker 10>thank god, the vendor set it's okay. We're now at

1:30:25.095 --> 1:30:27.295
<v Speaker 10>a point now, and it has been for a period

1:30:27.335 --> 1:30:30.015
<v Speaker 10>of years where we go, if that's the case, what's

1:30:30.055 --> 1:30:33.735
<v Speaker 10>the evidence, right, So vender goes it's all okay, So

1:30:33.895 --> 1:30:36.015
<v Speaker 10>well it doesn't seem to be what's the evidence. Let's

1:30:36.015 --> 1:30:37.215
<v Speaker 10>get a builder through to check this.

1:30:37.575 --> 1:30:41.335
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay. Now, one of the phrases that's often used

1:30:41.335 --> 1:30:43.855
<v Speaker 2>in terms of real estate agents in particular, well, there's

1:30:43.855 --> 1:30:45.255
<v Speaker 2>a number of phrases, but the one I'm going to

1:30:45.375 --> 1:30:49.015
<v Speaker 2>choose is duty to disclose. How do you see that?

1:30:49.015 --> 1:30:51.215
<v Speaker 2>What does that mean for you? As an agent. Duty

1:30:51.295 --> 1:30:54.695
<v Speaker 2>to disclose in terms of I'm coming through an open home, yep,

1:30:54.735 --> 1:30:58.375
<v Speaker 2>and I ask you a question, and the duty to

1:30:58.415 --> 1:31:00.695
<v Speaker 2>disclose is you tell me everything you know about the property.

1:31:00.815 --> 1:31:01.055
<v Speaker 2>Is that?

1:31:01.775 --> 1:31:05.055
<v Speaker 10>How do you see It's here's the balance. Duty of

1:31:05.135 --> 1:31:09.255
<v Speaker 10>care to a buyer fiduciary. Care to a vendor fiduciary

1:31:09.415 --> 1:31:11.575
<v Speaker 10>is the highest level they're in front of, even me.

1:31:11.895 --> 1:31:14.375
<v Speaker 10>I do everything for them. I tell them everything I know,

1:31:14.415 --> 1:31:17.215
<v Speaker 10>and I protect their interests. On the buyer's side, I've

1:31:17.215 --> 1:31:19.055
<v Speaker 10>got to take care of the buyer, make sure the

1:31:19.055 --> 1:31:22.575
<v Speaker 10>buyer is okay. So disclosures through there is an agent.

1:31:22.615 --> 1:31:24.695
<v Speaker 10>If you know it, you must tell them. If you

1:31:24.775 --> 1:31:27.015
<v Speaker 10>should know it, or you should have looked at something

1:31:27.055 --> 1:31:30.455
<v Speaker 10>and seen an issue, then you should tell them. And remember,

1:31:30.455 --> 1:31:33.175
<v Speaker 10>if the vendor tells the agent, hey, I want you

1:31:33.215 --> 1:31:37.375
<v Speaker 10>to stay silent. The agent their legal positions, I must

1:31:37.375 --> 1:31:39.975
<v Speaker 10>walk away from the listing. So then we just caution

1:31:40.055 --> 1:31:41.975
<v Speaker 10>the vendor. Every vendor goes hard. I don't want everybody

1:31:41.975 --> 1:31:44.975
<v Speaker 10>to know about that, but if it's material, we just

1:31:45.055 --> 1:31:47.335
<v Speaker 10>manage it. So yeah, if I'm aware of it as

1:31:47.375 --> 1:31:51.015
<v Speaker 10>an agent, I tell the purchases and if I can

1:31:51.055 --> 1:31:53.975
<v Speaker 10>add another way, please you've got to be careful what

1:31:54.015 --> 1:31:59.455
<v Speaker 10>you're representing. You know, it's crazy to me, But say

1:31:59.455 --> 1:32:03.335
<v Speaker 10>we run an auction, I don't know, and there's half

1:32:03.375 --> 1:32:05.735
<v Speaker 10>of the buyers have not done building inspections and the

1:32:05.775 --> 1:32:10.415
<v Speaker 10>other half have. Ye, then we have three building inspections,

1:32:10.415 --> 1:32:14.815
<v Speaker 10>we get three different answers. Now, a buyer quite often

1:32:14.855 --> 1:32:17.375
<v Speaker 10>will come to us and say there's a problem from

1:32:17.535 --> 1:32:20.375
<v Speaker 10>their building inspection. But now we've got to work out

1:32:20.375 --> 1:32:23.055
<v Speaker 10>what's the true case. So we get the vendor to

1:32:23.135 --> 1:32:25.695
<v Speaker 10>check it. Also, they're builder to check it, and then

1:32:25.695 --> 1:32:29.215
<v Speaker 10>we've got to make a decision what's the correct representation here.

1:32:29.815 --> 1:32:31.975
<v Speaker 10>And if I roll that back one stage further, and

1:32:32.135 --> 1:32:35.535
<v Speaker 10>everybody who's thinking of selling, I suggest this, before you

1:32:35.615 --> 1:32:38.255
<v Speaker 10>go to markets the vendor, get a builder to check

1:32:38.295 --> 1:32:41.695
<v Speaker 10>your property. Right, like one of your buyers is going interesting, Yeah,

1:32:42.055 --> 1:32:45.215
<v Speaker 10>So why engage your agent? Why spend six seven eight

1:32:45.255 --> 1:32:47.975
<v Speaker 10>thousand dollars in marketing to get tripped up?

1:32:48.335 --> 1:32:48.575
<v Speaker 5>Yep?

1:32:49.055 --> 1:32:52.735
<v Speaker 10>Just get a builder through for your own benefit. Yes,

1:32:52.775 --> 1:32:54.935
<v Speaker 10>so you've got confidence to go to market.

1:32:55.855 --> 1:32:57.175
<v Speaker 2>Just on that. And we've got to take a break

1:32:57.175 --> 1:32:59.615
<v Speaker 2>in a second. But I remember a couple of years

1:32:59.615 --> 1:33:02.455
<v Speaker 2>ago I was asked to do a building condition report

1:33:02.495 --> 1:33:04.495
<v Speaker 2>on a property that was about to go to market.

1:33:04.535 --> 1:33:07.855
<v Speaker 2>The intention was that the vendor would then have that

1:33:08.015 --> 1:33:12.215
<v Speaker 2>available for anyone who was interested in the property as

1:33:12.255 --> 1:33:15.815
<v Speaker 2>a purchaser. Would you accept a building report that you

1:33:15.855 --> 1:33:17.055
<v Speaker 2>didn't commission.

1:33:16.815 --> 1:33:19.415
<v Speaker 10>No, because you've got you've got no redress, you've got

1:33:19.455 --> 1:33:21.935
<v Speaker 10>a party to that. You know there'll be disclaimers at

1:33:21.935 --> 1:33:25.695
<v Speaker 10>the bottom. So yeah, and agencies do it a little

1:33:25.695 --> 1:33:28.255
<v Speaker 10>bit differently. But the trickis I really like, is the

1:33:28.335 --> 1:33:31.215
<v Speaker 10>vendor does it for themselves? Yep, And if there's anything

1:33:31.215 --> 1:33:33.655
<v Speaker 10>that they need to sort out, they sort it out.

1:33:33.815 --> 1:33:34.055
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

1:33:34.095 --> 1:33:36.655
<v Speaker 10>And when a buyer asks, you know, has the vendored

1:33:36.695 --> 1:33:38.855
<v Speaker 10>on a building in specially, we say yeah, absolutely for

1:33:38.935 --> 1:33:41.335
<v Speaker 10>their own benefit. And they found I can think of

1:33:41.335 --> 1:33:43.495
<v Speaker 10>one right now. They found there was an issue with

1:33:43.495 --> 1:33:45.815
<v Speaker 10>this flashing. Yes, it lifted in the storm, but a

1:33:45.895 --> 1:33:48.335
<v Speaker 10>water got in the flashing up there that you can

1:33:48.375 --> 1:33:52.015
<v Speaker 10>see has been fully repaired and that's the integrity of

1:33:52.055 --> 1:33:54.735
<v Speaker 10>the flashing. And when you go to buy it, you'll

1:33:54.775 --> 1:33:57.775
<v Speaker 10>do your own building inspection. So that to me, that's

1:33:57.815 --> 1:34:01.215
<v Speaker 10>a really a nice loop there that's closed off.

1:34:01.495 --> 1:34:01.735
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1:34:01.975 --> 1:34:05.815
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<v Speaker 2>We've got so many Texas is great? Right, Oh, here

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<v Speaker 2>wang what they mean when they say plus GST.

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<v Speaker 10>If any okay, So that's quick fire answers. That's on

1:35:36.895 --> 1:35:40.295
<v Speaker 10>the contract that sits there inherently. If it's a Rizzi

1:35:40.375 --> 1:35:43.335
<v Speaker 10>property residential, then it's fairly well. I'm not going to apply.

1:35:43.855 --> 1:35:46.975
<v Speaker 10>No agent's going to answer that if the vendor is

1:35:47.535 --> 1:35:51.015
<v Speaker 10>What they'll answer is if the vendor is registered for GST, Yes,

1:35:51.255 --> 1:35:54.935
<v Speaker 10>and the buyers registered for GST, then yes, it will apply.

1:35:55.535 --> 1:35:58.375
<v Speaker 10>We will always direct everybody back to their accountant and

1:35:58.415 --> 1:36:00.295
<v Speaker 10>to their lawyer. It scares us too.

1:36:00.375 --> 1:36:03.935
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right? A question? Should the vendor advise if

1:36:03.935 --> 1:36:05.415
<v Speaker 2>someone has passed away in the home?

1:36:05.575 --> 1:36:13.095
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, if it is. If it's a violent event, then

1:36:13.415 --> 1:36:17.695
<v Speaker 10>the answer is yes. If it's sensitive to the buyer,

1:36:17.855 --> 1:36:18.655
<v Speaker 10>then yes.

1:36:19.535 --> 1:36:26.095
<v Speaker 2>Right Okay. Someone has suggested must have end or disclose

1:36:26.215 --> 1:36:30.855
<v Speaker 2>a proposed motorway that will pass approximately five hundred meters

1:36:30.895 --> 1:36:32.215
<v Speaker 2>from a property for sale.

1:36:32.375 --> 1:36:35.015
<v Speaker 10>They should the end, the buyer should right sorry. The

1:36:35.455 --> 1:36:40.135
<v Speaker 10>agent should absolutely and the buyer when you as your

1:36:40.255 --> 1:36:43.535
<v Speaker 10>due diligence you're building inspection, you'll also request a limb.

1:36:44.255 --> 1:36:46.255
<v Speaker 10>You should be looking for that sort of detail sitting

1:36:46.295 --> 1:36:49.415
<v Speaker 10>in there too, Okay, absolutely, and sorry. An agent should

1:36:49.415 --> 1:36:51.615
<v Speaker 10>be aware of something like that, right.

1:36:52.975 --> 1:36:56.335
<v Speaker 2>It's putting a lot of responsibility on the agent.

1:36:56.775 --> 1:37:00.415
<v Speaker 10>Absolutely, they've got to be very very careful, very diligent,

1:37:00.455 --> 1:37:02.615
<v Speaker 10>and they've got to know the area. So now now

1:37:02.655 --> 1:37:04.815
<v Speaker 10>agents that try and sell out of area, yes, they've

1:37:04.815 --> 1:37:05.575
<v Speaker 10>got to be careful.

1:37:06.455 --> 1:37:11.335
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Text from Paul. If you put as is clause

1:37:11.495 --> 1:37:14.055
<v Speaker 2>in the sale and purchase agreement, does this cover you

1:37:14.175 --> 1:37:16.655
<v Speaker 2>for any previous problems?

1:37:16.935 --> 1:37:20.495
<v Speaker 10>It's a very good practice, Paul. Do that cross out

1:37:20.495 --> 1:37:22.895
<v Speaker 10>the vendor warranties that are in there and make it

1:37:22.975 --> 1:37:25.775
<v Speaker 10>absolutely clear as is we're as we're selling a property

1:37:25.815 --> 1:37:28.175
<v Speaker 10>like that in Mission Bay right now, as is, we're

1:37:28.215 --> 1:37:33.135
<v Speaker 10>as no warranties and no representations because we're not aware.

1:37:33.255 --> 1:37:36.655
<v Speaker 10>But we're saying this clearly is a property where it's

1:37:36.695 --> 1:37:37.495
<v Speaker 10>as as we're.

1:37:37.335 --> 1:37:40.455
<v Speaker 2>As right, Okay, And I mean that's okay, isn't it?

1:37:40.815 --> 1:37:43.095
<v Speaker 2>Because if you're looking to buy a do up, then

1:37:43.495 --> 1:37:46.695
<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's unconsented or falling down or whatever.

1:37:47.055 --> 1:37:49.615
<v Speaker 2>As a purchaser, that's what you're after.

1:37:49.775 --> 1:37:52.375
<v Speaker 10>One hundred percent. And okay, so I'll be at that

1:37:52.375 --> 1:37:55.015
<v Speaker 10>one this morning. I was there last Sunday on the opens.

1:37:56.095 --> 1:37:58.975
<v Speaker 10>People that came through that look like qualified builders. You know, yep,

1:37:59.255 --> 1:38:00.415
<v Speaker 10>you guys have got a bit of a look to

1:38:00.455 --> 1:38:03.775
<v Speaker 10>you better. Yes, they were cool, you know, so they go, Yeah,

1:38:04.055 --> 1:38:05.455
<v Speaker 10>I'll come back and have a look during the week.

1:38:05.655 --> 1:38:08.695
<v Speaker 10>People that came through, like first home buyers looking for

1:38:08.975 --> 1:38:12.255
<v Speaker 10>a renovation or redecoration. I said, I think this is

1:38:12.295 --> 1:38:14.975
<v Speaker 10>probably too much. Go and find an easier one, so

1:38:15.015 --> 1:38:17.135
<v Speaker 10>we give that's the duty of care to the purchaser.

1:38:17.335 --> 1:38:20.415
<v Speaker 2>Okay, someone's about to replace a twenty year old deck

1:38:20.455 --> 1:38:24.055
<v Speaker 2>on an exclusive use area of my cross lease property.

1:38:24.135 --> 1:38:27.095
<v Speaker 2>The deck is not on the plan, but does not

1:38:27.295 --> 1:38:30.935
<v Speaker 2>have an overhang and is under one meter off the ground.

1:38:31.015 --> 1:38:33.455
<v Speaker 2>My lawyer said, I do not need to add it

1:38:33.495 --> 1:38:35.855
<v Speaker 2>to the site plan or get a building consent. It's

1:38:35.855 --> 1:38:38.655
<v Speaker 2>probably right about the building consent. But what's the issue

1:38:38.695 --> 1:38:41.255
<v Speaker 2>with decks being added to properties that are on a

1:38:41.295 --> 1:38:44.015
<v Speaker 2>cross lease because someone else has said it's not enclosed

1:38:44.095 --> 1:38:46.535
<v Speaker 2>or attached. Ye, therefore you don't have to addit to

1:38:46.575 --> 1:38:47.175
<v Speaker 2>the site plan.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I'll give you. I'll give you a check answer.

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<v Speaker 10>And this is the way law works. It is the

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<v Speaker 10>vendor's lawyer will have one opinion and the purchas's lawyer

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<v Speaker 10>might have another one. Yeah, so I think refer back

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<v Speaker 10>to your lawyer. If your lawyer is pretty cool with that,

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<v Speaker 10>I think you need to run with that. They they're

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<v Speaker 10>the experts on titles. Yeah, okay, we would look at

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<v Speaker 10>it and we would say, okay, I think we need

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<v Speaker 10>to check this. Yes, absolutely, I'd be careful around that one.

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<v Speaker 2>This tricky one. A real estate agent told me last

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<v Speaker 2>week that if I did a builder's report for my house,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm planning to sell, that somebody buying my house

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<v Speaker 2>could then buy the builder's report off me. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 10>There's building companies that do that. So they say, hey, Pete,

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<v Speaker 10>i'll pick a number here. It won't be this number.

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<v Speaker 10>They say, hey, Peter, I'll charge you five hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 10>on the basis that it should have been about one

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<v Speaker 10>thousand dollars report. But anybody subsequent, any of your purchases,

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<v Speaker 10>can buy it off. My company also a building company

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<v Speaker 10>for two point fifty yep, so I have seen that done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, But again it goes back to our issue

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about earlier about you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a vendor and you get your own building report, should

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<v Speaker 2>a purchase you know, how confident would a purchaser be

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<v Speaker 2>that it's correct. You'd be suspicious, wouldn't you? Well, not suspicious, but.

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<v Speaker 10>Which Okay, So the builder doing it for the vendor,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just checking that everything's kosher and that we should

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<v Speaker 10>be able to proceed and we're not going to get

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<v Speaker 10>tripped done. The builder doing it for the purchaser is

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<v Speaker 10>probably looking deeper and longer, right, okay, So say a roof,

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<v Speaker 10>We're looking at a roof going okay, well it works

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<v Speaker 10>right now, but you might have to replace it in

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<v Speaker 10>ten Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question, what would you do if there was an issue, example,

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<v Speaker 2>some minor flooding, You fixed it by adding drainage, waterproofing, recontouring,

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<v Speaker 2>and it never happened again, would you still disclose the.

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<v Speaker 10>Original per That's that's a great example. Hey guys, we

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<v Speaker 10>had some minor floating on the property. Here's the remedies

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<v Speaker 10>that were in place. Yes, and it hasn't flooded again.

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<v Speaker 10>That's exactly what it should sound like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's brilliant. There we go, brilliant, Oh, fast and furious. Awesome, Wayne,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much for coming to the studio. I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate great seeing you. Right, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>a short break. Then we've got ridd in the garden

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