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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy, Ellen, Yet again, we've got another report telling

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Speaker 1: us the abuse of kids in state at care has

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Speaker 1: gone up. Five hundred and thirty children and young people

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Speaker 1: in care were abused in the year to June twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. That's up from five hundred and seven the

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Speaker 1: previous year. The report has come from the Independent Children's

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Speaker 1: Monitor and the chief executive is Aaron Jones high Erin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Why is it gone up again?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's probably a range of things, ordering a tambodikwa

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Speaker 2: point two. You've got greater reporting and calling out of incidents,

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Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it still tells

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Speaker 2: your story of more kids being abused and that's not

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Speaker 2: good reading.

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Speaker 1: No. Now, a third of the kids that you've had

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Speaker 1: a look at are not being visited by their social

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Speaker 1: worker as often as they should. What's the problem There

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Speaker 1: is just a lack of social workers.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why this report and these care standards are

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Speaker 2: so important because you take this back to you know,

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Speaker 2: harm happening to these kids. These care standards are about

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Speaker 2: good social work and if you do that then you're

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Speaker 2: likely to reduce the chance that these kids get harm.

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Speaker 2: But more importantly, you're going to ensure that they have good,

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Speaker 2: loving homes because you know, all the evidence shows that unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: our young people that go into stake care go on

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Speaker 2: to have poor outcomes, most of them in terms of education, employment, housing,

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Speaker 2: health outcomes can be worse. So while they're in here,

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Speaker 2: it's a great opportunity to give them the loving homes

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Speaker 2: that they need so they can go on and have

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Speaker 2: good lives and we can break some of this into

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Speaker 2: generational cycle. It's a bit of a no brainer, and

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Speaker 2: so when you're looking at things like social work visits,

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Speaker 2: that's one of the key fundamentals in terms of good

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Speaker 2: practices being there for the kids, forming strong relationships, listening

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Speaker 2: to them, understanding what they need, and then getting them

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Speaker 2: the help at the right time.

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Speaker 1: Aaron, thanks very much every time. Appreciate Aaron Jones, Independent

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Speaker 1: Children's Monitor, Chief Executive. For more from Heather Duplessy, Alan Drive,

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