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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and the Home Straight.

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Speaker 1: Kiewis Weekend Sport Road to Paris twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: At a Paris Olympic Games are drawing ever closer, and

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Speaker 2: as we travel the road to Paris, we're looking back

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Speaker 2: on some of the great Olympic moments from games past.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's best ever Olympic shooting result came in twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen at Rio, when Natalie Rooney won silver in the trap.

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Speaker 2: Having competed internationally since two thousand and six, she was

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Speaker 2: fifth at the twenty ten Deli Commonwealth Games and fourth

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Speaker 2: at the twenty fourteen Glasgow Commonwealth Games. At the Rio Olympics,

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Speaker 2: she successfully negotiated a shoot off to reach the final,

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Speaker 2: where she won silver, beaten narrowly by Australian Catherine Skinner.

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Speaker 2: The following year, Natali Rooney he claimed the number one

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Speaker 2: world ranking in trap shooting. She also competed at the

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Speaker 2: Tokyo Olympic Games, where she placed eleventh. Natalie Rooney is

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Speaker 2: with us. Natalie, thanks for taking the time to wander

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Speaker 2: down memory lane of it back to twenty sixteen. What

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Speaker 2: stands out most vividly when you remember back to to

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Speaker 2: Rio twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Obviously winning silver, which was pretty pretty amazing, and really

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Speaker 3: just the experience. I've been to a couple of comm

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Speaker 3: off games, but the Olympics just like this next level

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Speaker 3: and just being in that New Zealand team. It's such

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Speaker 3: a special, special thing to be part of and just

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Speaker 3: being in awe of all the athletes that you're surrounded by.

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Speaker 2: Really tell us about the shoot off to reach the

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Speaker 2: gold medal match, How did the whole infect take it back?

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Speaker 2: How did the whole competition play out up to the

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Speaker 2: shoot off, and then we can talk about the final.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I it was so long ago now, that so

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Speaker 3: back back when I was back in two thousand and sixteen.

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Speaker 3: I've changed our program quite a few times since then,

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Speaker 3: but that back then we only shot one day for ladies,

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Speaker 3: and we were shooting twenty five three rounds of twenty

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Speaker 3: five out of seventy five targets. And for me, I

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Speaker 3: just remember waking up that day and knowing I'm ready

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Speaker 3: and yeah, everything went pretty smoothly until my last round

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Speaker 3: which I ended up listening a few targets, putting a

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Speaker 3: I was probably placed it at second or third I think.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, and then the wind came through. I missed

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Speaker 3: I think I made it through in like fourth place

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Speaker 3: which is top six of the competition make it through

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Speaker 3: to the final, and I just remember I was so

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Speaker 3: ready for that final. I had spent two months prior

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Speaker 3: training all just really came into practice and I was

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Speaker 3: thirteen out of fifteen I think in the single barrel.

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Speaker 3: When you come to the final, and I had to

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Speaker 3: I shooting extremely well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean silver medal beast ever result by

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Speaker 2: in the final, didn't you. It was eventually a thriller.

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Speaker 2: Twelve eleven yea, How close did you feel to winning

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Speaker 3: It was? It was very very close. It was. I

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Speaker 3: just I think in that last goldbeatle match, I actually

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Speaker 3: which just really came down to the nerve that was

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Speaker 3: of fouled me a little bit on the end, but

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Speaker 3: I can't really complain. Walking away was still the middle.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. When you talk about it being a mental game,

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Speaker 2: when you're shooting really really well? Is it just a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're kind of in this like you know, it's

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Speaker 3: And when that actually happens, it's an amazing feeling and

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Speaker 2: How did you get into the sport.

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Speaker 3: Family. I've got three brothers and a dad that all

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Speaker 3: we grew up shooting. Really my older brother Sam, he

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Speaker 2: And there were several different disciplines in the sport of shooting,

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Speaker 2: aren't they. How did you settle on trap shooting?

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Speaker 3: That was really what we did. We mainly did trap shooting.

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Speaker 3: I was eighteen, I think that I got selected for

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Speaker 3: the Olympic trap. So from there that's what I started doing,

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Speaker 2: Of course, four years before Rio, the New Zealand Shooting

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Speaker 2: but then prime rifle shooter Ryan Taylor appealed to the

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Speaker 2: Sports Tribunal had the decision overturned in his favor. How

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Speaker 2: difficult a time was that for you being selected and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was very tough. Yeah it was. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: and hindsight, it's worked in my favor. Like if I'd

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Speaker 3: it's kind of It's a tricky one because that non

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Speaker 3: I set that goal that I had to be at

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Speaker 3: And that got me to change what I was doing

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Speaker 3: if I had gone to London, I don't know as

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Speaker 2: Really tell us a bit about your training regime. You

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Speaker 2: What does what does a training regime day to day

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Speaker 3: Yes, so prior to COVID, should I say prior to

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Speaker 3: so I would travel work to Italy for any competition. Really,

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Speaker 3: I'd spend probably one to two months over there prior

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Speaker 3: shooting I think three to four days on one day

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Speaker 2: How mentally draining is all of that training.

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Speaker 3: It's very mentally draining. That's why only we kind of

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Speaker 3: I needed that day off just to re energize so

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Speaker 3: go and do that. I personally couldn't shoot seven days

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Speaker 3: but it's yeah, it's just a mental drain of it.

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Speaker 3: Like it's and especially when you're in these hot countries

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Speaker 3: it's it's just that mental capacity to be able to

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Speaker 2: And how does that drainage manifest itself? Like do you

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Speaker 2: get headaches? Do your eyes get sore? What happens when

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Speaker 2: you when you overshoot? If you did shoot seven days

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I are we contact lenses for shooting just

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Speaker 3: that makes sense. And yeah, it's just like a continual drain.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I would get quite bad headaches and nighttime

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Speaker 3: as just you get very sore shoulders and necks just

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Speaker 2: When the target comes out. Has there been studies done?

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Speaker 2: Do you know how long you have it? How long

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Speaker 2: pull the trigger. It must be a fraction of a second,

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Speaker 3: So when we call for a target at instant so

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Speaker 3: There's no delay. And from the it is like I

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Speaker 3: think it's point like if you're really onto, it's zero

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Speaker 3: point five or second or something like that when you

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Speaker 2: Wo wow. What I've often wondered as well about about

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Speaker 2: running gear. What are the extra layers of complication when

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Speaker 2: you're traveling with firearms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy. That's the other thing. Like you

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Speaker 3: It's months in advance of getting permits, both for the

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Speaker 3: then you know the countries that you go to, you

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Speaker 3: have to get pyramits for every country that you're going into.

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Speaker 3: Because being from New Zealand, we have a firearms license,

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Speaker 3: but our license doesn't have our gun on our license

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Speaker 3: licensed to them, right whereas we don't have our gun

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Speaker 3: in Europe they have a firearms license that's got their

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Speaker 3: It has to be taken straight away to the gun

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Speaker 2: Well, just an extra hour of complication even before you

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Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure. I have a feeling

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Speaker 2: It's been great to get the chance to chat to you. Incredibly,

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Speaker 3: Time, no worries, thank you, Thank you, Natalie.

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