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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar the Art

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Speaker 3: Were going when stay right here, let's combarding to you.

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Speaker 3: It's Friday, the twelfth of July. My name is Andrew Dickens,

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Speaker 3: filling in for Mike Hosking, who is back on Monday today.

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Speaker 3: The new Advisory Group to fight crime and should we

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Speaker 3: sell the inter Islander And that's with one man Paul

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Speaker 3: Goldsmith just after seven now warning New Zealand is running

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Speaker 3: out of natural gas and what we've got left is

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Speaker 3: going to become a lot more expensive. So we'll be

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Speaker 3: talking about can we find it? What can we do?

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Speaker 3: And there's a rugby game today. John Hart on the Test,

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Speaker 3: Nicks Outner on the shot cut for Damien or So,

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Speaker 3: Tim Wilson and Kerry Wooden will wrap the week. You

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Speaker 3: can text me ninety two ninety two email Dickens and

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Speaker 3: episodes sid b SO. The government has announced in the

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Speaker 3: advisory Group, headed by the chair of the Dairy and

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Speaker 3: Business Owners Group, to help ensure fewer victims of retail crime.

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Speaker 3: The advisory Group will engage directly with victims, workers, business owners,

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Speaker 3: retail experts and advocacy groups over the next two years

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Speaker 3: to provide the government with specific proposals to address urgent

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Speaker 3: challenges in retail crime. And the man charged with chairing

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Speaker 3: that group as Sunny Kashow. We know Sonny. I first

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Speaker 3: heard about Sunny when he complained about the construction of

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Speaker 3: of the Shakespeare Pub. The pub's business was affected by

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Speaker 3: the ripping up of Albert Street, so he brought together

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Speaker 3: all the Albert Street businesses. He was a regular spokesperson

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Speaker 3: in the media on how small businesses were getting slammed

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Speaker 3: by progress. Looking in on LinkedIn, he's still there. He's

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Speaker 3: still a director of the Shakespeare. By the way, the

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Speaker 3: roadworks are now finished in a new holiday hotel is

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Speaker 3: one hundred meters over the road, and there's hundreds of

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Speaker 3: apartments and new corporate offices. And I haven't been to

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Speaker 3: the Shakespeare lately, but it would have to be one

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Speaker 3: go through some paying for some gains, Sonny. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: he has also sought to be a candidate for the

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Speaker 3: National Party and he now works full time at the

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Speaker 3: Dairy and Business Owners Group, and he's been impressively determined

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Speaker 3: on advocating against retail crime, so much so he won

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Speaker 3: Hero of the Week and one of Mike Hoskins Marking

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Speaker 3: of the Week. So he's been great. Sonny's great. He's

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Speaker 3: great at describing the problem. He is great. And now

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Speaker 3: he's got another job, and this time from the government.

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Speaker 3: Of course the government. He'd rather be part of his

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Speaker 3: MP but doesn't matter. And I think though this is

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Speaker 3: his greatest challenge. Paul Goldsmith has denied the idea that

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Speaker 3: the group has been set up just to curb the

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Speaker 3: criticism that Sonny and others have leveled against the government

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Speaker 3: and police. But a lot of people are out there

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Speaker 3: saying that the government has offered him a job to

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Speaker 3: keep Sonny quiet. And it is true that the previous

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Speaker 3: government would set up committees with good pay as an

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Speaker 3: attempt to virtue signal issues and make it appear that

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Speaker 3: things are happening and to shut people up. Sunny, do

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Speaker 3: not shut up. You've got nearly two million dollars a

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Speaker 3: textpayers money. Make it work. We're all good at describing

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Speaker 3: the problem. What we really need is someone with answers.

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Speaker 3: Sunny Ball in your court.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds, Clear Steamer, he's

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Speaker 1: already copping fleck.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't put the date of when his policies will

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Speaker 4: What we've had for the last fourteen years before the

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Speaker 4: lack of funding for meeting those targets which they will

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Speaker 4: met were missed over and over again. We've changed turned

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Speaker 4: up back on that word doing politics. This is a different.

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Speaker 3: Politics, okay. Now, surprise surprise that the United Kingdom will

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Speaker 3: look at limiting crossbow excess after the treagedy of the

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Speaker 5: The Home Secretary will look very carefully at the evidence

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Speaker 5: not stop at anything to ensure that the public is safe.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, even though they've only been in for a blink

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Speaker 3: Rachel reeves it's not excited yet.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's welcome to have an increase in GDP is

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Speaker 4: but there's clearly more work to be done.

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Speaker 3: Keep you with England now, do you think their fans

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Speaker 6: It was amazing, It's absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 7: Bring you up, Bring it up.

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Speaker 8: It'll be a tough game.

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Speaker 9: It would be a tough game.

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Speaker 7: But you never know.

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Speaker 2: They've done well, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: They have done well, haven't they. Look if you're ever

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Speaker 3: watching an England football game, especially now, we're a raincoat

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Speaker 3: because if there's a goal, every beer is in the air.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 3: Just a point of advice. Alec Baldwin, his shooting trial

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Speaker 3: about why why with live? Ammo ever be honesty?

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Speaker 11: The similarity between the star Line Nickel Live and the

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Speaker 11: Starline Nickel dummies is that they could have been easily

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Speaker 11: commingled fair. Yes, somebody could have mistaken one for the other.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: There A US speaker, Mike Johnson, meanwhile, has claimed that

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Speaker 3: the world leaders he's spoken to at NATO are worried

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Speaker 12: NATO leaders are here on the hill as you know.

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Speaker 11: These foreign leaders are coming in Prime ministers, heads of

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Speaker 11: state and they are telling us privately that they're deeply

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Speaker 11: concerned a weak America is bad for the whole world.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now, mister Biden is doing a conference around about

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Speaker 3: ten thirty our time, and we'll have Richard Arnold in

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Speaker 3: about twenty minutes time on Joe Biden's big day. And finally,

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Speaker 3: if you've got the gift of the gab, then I've

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Speaker 3: got a job for you.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Biden.

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Speaker 3: It's actly Edinburgh Fringe Festival at Glasgow Hotel is looking

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Speaker 3: for breakfast whatever, they'll be lightly roasting hotel stayers for

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Speaker 3: good along with your best breakfast joke or yoke if

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Speaker 3: you wish. All right, Hey, so Milker's a big story

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Speaker 3: this morning. Sindley got a lifeline of funding. The company

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking to Cameron Henderson, he supplies for Sindley.

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Speaker 3: We're going to do this just after the six thirty news. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Keller, who will run his eye over the situation

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Speaker 3: and the market impact on Sindlay right after the break

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Speaker 2: The mic hosting breakfast.

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Speaker 3: So, I don't know if you saw that film with

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Speaker 3: Nicole Kidman and Zach Efron. What a bizarre film that was.

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Speaker 3: Not only that zac Efron seemed to have been pumped

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Speaker 3: Kimmon's got a new movie and we'll be telling you

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Speaker 3: more about that later on. At is six seventeen, Andrew Callahan,

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Speaker 3: Jay am, I well to welcome to the brag and

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Speaker 3: welcomes here Friday, Andrew, Yeah, morning, Andrew. You want to

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Speaker 3: look at some price indexes?

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Speaker 6: Yes, as the local financial markets sort of bask in

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Speaker 6: the free sast delivered by a potentially pivoting central bank.

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Speaker 6: We got some of the hard data yesterday that I've

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Speaker 6: full inflation data on a quarterly basis. This is a

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Speaker 2: This is good news.

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Speaker 6: Month on month it's up one percent, but quarterly food

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Speaker 6: priced up zero point two percent. And get this year

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Speaker 6: Rents still running above the level we'd like to see

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Speaker 6: Takeaway across everything we saw yesterday andrews that underlying pressures

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Speaker 6: That's the first time food prices have fallen year on

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Speaker 6: good news, Yester.

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Speaker 3: On those I feel my face breaking and maybe a

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Speaker 6: You go, yeah, you wear that smile all day.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, Okay, I'm intered, and we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: it with Kevin Henderson a few mothers time. Sinley and

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So do we call this a saga or do

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Speaker 6: we call this the ongoing story?

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Speaker 3: They had trouble before when they had you know that

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Speaker 3: they take milk back to China.

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Speaker 2: You know that. That's the.

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Speaker 6: It's called the diegu This is the the shoppers that

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Speaker 3: It was huge. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well they had a critical event yesterday was a

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Speaker 6: its largest shareholder. They have to do that under Interdex rules.

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Speaker 6: So they voted to approve that loan that now allows

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Speaker 6: Sinley to pay back a civilized loan that matures on Monday,

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Speaker 6: So nothing like leaving it to the last minute. But

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Speaker 6: the issue was complicated because they've got A two was

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Speaker 3: Ye're a superstar, Andrew. It's been lovely talking with you.

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Speaker 3: Over the course of this week, so go well, thank you.

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Speaker 6: The voice of the yard and they're like, it's better

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Speaker 3: I could teach you, but I have to charge dairy company.

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Speaker 3: Sin Lay had been handled a lifeline, but it's not

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Speaker 3: a lifesaver. The shareholders have approved a one hundred and

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Speaker 18: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. Are you feeling relieved?

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Speaker 18: Absolutely? I'm very hippy, Gary Farmer this morning. It was

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Speaker 3: Could they have actually wrapped up the whole company?

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Speaker 18: Look that that's basically what the counter advice was that

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Speaker 18: at seizing trading, in voluntary administration or receivership so as

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Speaker 3: So Sidley ended out in a hole for a whole

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Speaker 3: They did that at a bad time, and China stopped

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's that's a tricky one. You know, a lot

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Speaker 18: And I guess as a farmer. That's that's what we're

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Speaker 3: New Zealand businesses are being told this. You know, we've

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Speaker 18: Yeah, they look, they do export a number of products.

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Speaker 15: Really.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this ninety nine point six percent vote, that's

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Speaker 18: Absolutely, look, I think that does show that this is

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Speaker 18: recognize that, you know, if they vote to know, but

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Speaker 18: I think it was a pretty clear cut decision for

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Speaker 3: So you'd say you're on the back of the right.

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Speaker 18: We really want them to do well because it has

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Speaker 3: Cameron, I'm sure you've got some cows to milk, so

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Speaker 3: I'll let you go, and I thank you so much

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Speaker 3: Matte Cameron is a supply to Sinley and this is

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 2: The my costume breakfast.

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Speaker 3: It's a quarter to seven. It's thought that an advisory

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Speaker 3: Forty three percent supported a sale, thirty eight percent were opposed,

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Speaker 3: It's a quarter to seven. Richard Arnold joins us from

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Speaker 3: the United States. Hello, Richard, Andrew. Joe. Biden's big day.

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Speaker 8: of all of this, the former Speaker Anti pelosic or

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Speaker 8: stirred things up when she suggested that Biden still was

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Speaker 8: considering whether to press on with his campaign.

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Speaker 20: It's up to the president to suicide if he is

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Speaker 20: going to run. We're all encouraging him to make that

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Speaker 20: decision because time is running short.

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Speaker 8: Well, Biden has been saying he decided already is running,

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Speaker 8: but Pelosi suggests it's still an open question. So that's

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Speaker 8: set the Polly scrambling again today with a new opinion

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Speaker 8: poll just out the ABC Washington Post Pole where eighty

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Speaker 8: five percent of people say Biden is too old for

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Speaker 8: a second term. Two thirds of those survey say he

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Speaker 8: should drop out, and yet Biden and Trump's still a

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Speaker 8: neck and neck in the survey because so many people

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Speaker 8: cannot abide Donald Trump. The New York Times, which ran

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Speaker 8: the initial opinion piece calling on Biden to withdraw from

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Speaker 8: the race. Is running another opinion piece today where they

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Speaker 8: say that Trump is quote dangerous in word, deed and action,

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Speaker 8: put self over country, and loathes the laws we live

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Speaker 8: by end quote. They also ran that piece by George Clooney,

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Speaker 8: who I've met briefly a couple of times, likable fellow.

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Speaker 8: And it was disclosed today that Clooney ran that opinion

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Speaker 8: piece by one Barack Obama before he said yes to

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Speaker 8: the time. Still, it has been the cause of some

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Speaker 8: shall I say, amusement here, like this from comedian Stephen Colbert.

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Speaker 6: George wrote a New York Times opad titled I love

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee, adding we

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Speaker 6: also need a money guy, a safecracker, an acrobat.

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Speaker 3: And Brad Fitts.

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Speaker 14: It's the plot of O Sins twenty four Amles busy

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Speaker 14: with him and rights stuff and.

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Speaker 3: I got bored.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Democratic lawmakers have been holding lots of meetings, says Speaker

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Speaker 8: Hakeem Jeffries of this roundabout.

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Speaker 9: House Democrats are engaged in conversations with House Democrats at

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Speaker 9: this moment in time. Those conversations have been candid.

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Speaker 8: But no comment on what was said except by Congressman

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Speaker 8: Adam Smith, who was asked whether Biden's reputation would suffer

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Speaker 8: if Biden presses on with his re election bid and

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Speaker 8: the Dems lose. Replied the congressman, Yes, yes, the pressure

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Speaker 8: is on. Meantime, one, Donald J. Trump has been back

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Speaker 8: on the campaign trail where he challenged Biden to a

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Speaker 8: golf game.

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Speaker 3: What when it gets the White House?

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Speaker 8: Maybe I don't know. I presume it was a joke.

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Speaker 8: Trump also said at the rally this of the NATO gathering.

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Speaker 21: I didn't even know what the hell NATO was too

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Speaker 21: much before, but it didn't take me long to figure

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Speaker 21: it out, like about two minutes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that instills a lot of confidence, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Meanwhile, the business of state continues and the business

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Speaker 3: of supporting Ukraine and rearming Ukraine. So planes more support

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Speaker 3: for the country.

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Speaker 13: That's right.

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Speaker 8: The specter of a second Trump presidency is certainly spurred

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Speaker 8: NATO into a bit more support for Ukraine. White House

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Speaker 8: saying the transfer of F sixteen fighter jets to Ukraine

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Speaker 8: is underway now. Denmark and the Netherlands will donate jets.

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Speaker 8: Belgium and Norway will follow. These are fourth generation of

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Speaker 8: sixteen is not the latest, but the Ukrainians have been

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Speaker 8: training with these models. Belgium will deliver thirty to Ukraine,

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Speaker 8: with the use of the jets restricted to Ukrainian territory

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Speaker 8: and airspace, says President Biden.

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Speaker 21: We're working with our NATO allies and I'm sure Ukraine

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Speaker 21: is flying F sixteens this summer and we show the

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Speaker 21: world we stand with Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: Military analyst Cedric Layton says of this development, the number.

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Speaker 22: Of F sixteen's about sixty five that have been promised

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Speaker 22: to Ukraine in this first delivery. That is a large number,

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Speaker 22: but it is not really sufficient for the Ukrainians to

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Speaker 22: conduct all the kinds of missions that they would need

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Speaker 22: to conduct.

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Speaker 8: Still, NATO is moving with commitments they believe will be

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Speaker 8: difficult to roll back. They are also agreeing to more

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Speaker 8: financial aids, some seventy one billion New Zealand dollars equivalent

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Speaker 8: within the next year. There is as well a new

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Speaker 8: command structure being set up in Germany to guard against

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Speaker 8: any decline in American involvement, say under Trump, who has

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Speaker 8: spoken in favor of Rocious Putin, of course, and raised

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Speaker 8: doubts about future US financial aids for Kiev. The NATO

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Speaker 8: communicator also says that quote Ukraine's future is in NATO

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Speaker 8: end quote, but they did not lay out a timetable. Meantime,

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Speaker 8: Washington is keeping its Asia Pacific allies close, including New Zealand,

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Speaker 8: at a time when Chinese troops right now are engaged

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Speaker 8: in military exercises with Russian partner Belarus, and they are

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Speaker 8: conducting those exercises only a few kilometers from the Polish border.

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Speaker 3: Charming, Richard Arnold, I thank you so much. It is

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Speaker 3: ten to seven News TALKSB sort of come the bez

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Speaker 3: and we'll introduce you to the PEPSI Economic Indicator.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the Mi Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar News

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Speaker 1: Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: It is our sixty seven. Forget the ferry, forget the

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Speaker 3: bike shop. The big story in New Zealanders we're running

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Speaker 3: out of natural gas. Natural guest demand will outstrip supply

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Speaker 3: over the next three years. A bloke from MB says

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Speaker 3: we need new discoveries or new technology urgently, which means

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Speaker 3: surprise is about to soar, which will affect customers from

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Speaker 3: the largest industrials to the smallest kitchen. I'd like to

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Speaker 3: say I'm shocked, but I've heard this before. We've had

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Speaker 3: this headline as Capuni ran down that that field was

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Speaker 3: found in fifty nine. Production started in seventy four. It's

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Speaker 3: described as mature, or you could also say empty. Our

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Speaker 3: biggest field, MOE, was found in sixty nine. In two

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Speaker 3: thousand and five, we were told it was ninety two

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Speaker 3: percent depleted. Then we found out it was a bit

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Speaker 3: bigger than we thought, and then we found more ways

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Speaker 3: to get the gas out. Meanwhile, we're using gas like

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Speaker 3: water powering our milk factories. That Multinuy Synthetic Petrol project

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Speaker 3: because we thought we had so much gas that closed

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and four. Kitchen designers love the look

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Speaker 3: of flame, and the knee jerk reaction when this came

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Speaker 3: up was to blame the last government who stopped gas expiration.

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Speaker 3: But the problems deeper than that. We've been looking for

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Speaker 3: new supplies for decades and the problem is we haven't

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Speaker 3: found any. So if anyone knows where the gas is,

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Speaker 3: could you contact MB And we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: this with John Kidd, director of research at a company

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Speaker 3: called Analytica, who provides deep dive research into this sort

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Speaker 3: of stuff. And that's hapening run about seven fifteen.

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Speaker 2: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz on the Mike Husking Breakfast on News

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Speaker 1: Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the PEPSI Economic Indicator. It tells you how

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Speaker 3: the US economy's going. PEPSI had mixed quarterly results, so

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Speaker 3: this is a wake up call. Q two net sales

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Speaker 3: rose to twenty five billion US, fueled almost entirely by

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Speaker 3: international business. At home, North American sales down four percent.

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Speaker 3: Their chip company, they're in chips as well, Frito Frito

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Speaker 3: lay that last four percent. Their oats company, Quaker Foods

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Speaker 3: down seventeen percent. So people are pushing back on recent

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Speaker 3: price prizes while also simply just buying less soda and

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Speaker 3: chips because times are tough. Man, times are tough. If

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Speaker 3: you're buying the soda and there's chips WHI. The level

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Speaker 3: of overall profit would mean that they haven't had a

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Speaker 3: year as tough as this since nineteen ninety six. That

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Speaker 3: was when they introduced their snack brands to accompany of

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Speaker 3: the drink.

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Speaker 12: Are you a Tipty guy or a coke guy?

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Speaker 3: I'm a coke guy. Coke Classic too. Don't don't, don't

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Speaker 3: start me with any sugar free stuff. I say, more sugar,

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Speaker 3: more sugar, And I don't know more of that secret

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Speaker 3: source of that syrup that makes it chest does.

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Speaker 12: I mean, all the times they've tried to change it,

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Speaker 12: the zero thing has worked out for them, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: I know a lot of people who just insist that

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Speaker 12: it's got to be zero.

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Speaker 3: It's virtue signaling, mate, it's wokes to drinks. Now, more

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Speaker 3: sugar the better. Right over, Paul Goldsmith's got two jobs,

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Speaker 3: Justice and state owned enterprises. So we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: about two things, the new advisory committing on retail crime

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Speaker 3: and also whether they should just sell the inter Islander

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Speaker 3: sailing on the inter Islander and in private hands. So

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Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith is next after News and Sport, which is

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Speaker 3: next here on News Talks here B. Mike is back

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Speaker 3: on Monday. Mike is currently watching Eddie Murphy films. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you more at that later too.

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Speaker 15: Yelly called ic Tea and when the.

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Speaker 2: Full sus.

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Speaker 3: Yell the time?

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Speaker 2: What make us fold? Opinions?

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Veda Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way News Talk, said B.

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Speaker 3: What to you seven after seven's retail crime it theresen

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Speaker 3: eighty six percent in the past five years. But what

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Speaker 3: is being done to fix it? A new Ministerial advisory

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Speaker 3: group is on the way apparently, which the government says

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Speaker 3: we'll link victims with policy makers. Community Leader Sunny Kashal

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Speaker 3: has set to be the chair. Will this mean any

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Speaker 3: meaningful change? Paul Goldsmith is our Justice Minister with me now,

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Speaker 3: hallo Paul Well on top of the morning there. Working

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Speaker 3: groups have got a bad name. It's the old labor

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Speaker 3: trick of hiding a problem in them and committeeizing things away.

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Speaker 3: Are you hiding a problem in a working group?

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Speaker 23: Certainly not. What we want is for this group, who

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Speaker 23: are led by Sonny Sha Karshel, who know the area well,

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Speaker 23: and I want them to come up with specific proposals

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Speaker 23: quickly so that we can make changes to laws to

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Speaker 23: better deal with the retail prime problem that we've got.

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Speaker 23: The issue is we've got a lot of work going

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Speaker 23: on in the justice space. As you know, we're giving

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Speaker 23: the police extual powers to deal with gangs. We're toughening sentences,

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Speaker 23: getting three strikes back, bringing new categories for young offenders.

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Speaker 23: So there's a huge amount of work going through the

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Speaker 23: justice system. I'm worried that we need to do more

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Speaker 23: in the retail space. There are capacity issues, and that's

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Speaker 23: why I'm bringing in this sextual group to come up

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Speaker 23: with specific proposals.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would suggest two years and just under two

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Speaker 3: million dollars worth of funding. That's not very much time

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Speaker 3: to actually get something really happening, nor is it continuing.

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Speaker 23: So you know, oh, well, I don't want them to know.

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Speaker 23: I don't want to want in two years to do anything.

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Speaker 23: I want some ideas to start flowing in the first

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Speaker 23: few months. And particularly I've got them focused on that

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Speaker 23: issue around security guards and owners of businesses what they

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Speaker 23: can and can't do, and there's widespread concern around that.

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Speaker 23: You know, I think everybody, all your listeners will have

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Speaker 23: seen examples of people just walking out of shops without paying.

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Speaker 23: And the answer can't be just for nobody to do

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Speaker 23: anything unless a police person happens to be nearby. So

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Speaker 23: that's one issue that we really want to get them

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Speaker 23: focused on.

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Speaker 3: So how will we measure their success? When can they

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Speaker 3: deliver the results? And will you act on their recommendations?

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Speaker 23: Well, will measure the success by some specific proposals that

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Speaker 23: actually make a difference. Yes, well, I fully expect and

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Speaker 23: you've probably have spoken to Sunny Costal and yes, he's

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Speaker 23: pretty strong on a whole lot of issues, and I

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Speaker 23: expected they will make us feel very uncomfortable in some

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Speaker 23: of the proposals. But we're up for some significant change

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Speaker 23: in this area because what we've seen a massive increase

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Speaker 23: in retail crime needs a different response. We've got to

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Speaker 23: do something different to get a different outcome.

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Speaker 16: So that's why we're up.

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Speaker 23: We're up for change.

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Speaker 3: Well, we keep on talking about Sonny Kshell, but who

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Speaker 3: else will be on this advisory working group thing?

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Speaker 23: Well, we've just announced them that we're going to have

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Speaker 23: four or five other spots on the group, and we're

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Speaker 23: we're lots of people sugesting.

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Speaker 18: We can't decide that.

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Speaker 23: We're going to decide that. Over the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 23: we'll get some people together and they'll be on their way, right.

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Speaker 23: And the good news is that this is going to

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Speaker 23: be funded out of the Proceeds of Crime fund. So

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Speaker 23: this is so the criminals themselves will be paying for

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Speaker 23: this group to do the job.

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Speaker 3: Well, we can't wait for their recommendations and the sooner

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Speaker 3: the better. Now, as Minister for State Owned Enterprises, an

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Speaker 3: advisory group has recommended the Kiwi Rail did the course

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Speaker 3: ferries becomes a separate, privately owned entity of taxpayers. Union

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Speaker 3: Curier poll says that forty three percent of New Zealander

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea. What do you think.

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Speaker 23: Well, look, I'm not going to speculate on leaked documents obviously,

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Speaker 23: but you know, we're working our way through the primary

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Speaker 23: issue is aid to ensure that the ferries today are

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Speaker 23: run safely and that's obviously the role of the maritime authorities.

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Speaker 23: And then secondly we're working through a process to find

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Speaker 23: some new theories.

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Speaker 3: And minister options. Kimmi Rail made the same mistake yesterday

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Speaker 3: where they failed to actually talk about leaked documents, and

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Speaker 3: of course they looked a bit silly. But if the

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Speaker 3: document has been leaked, and the document exists and is

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Speaker 3: the document real, this is going to happen? Is this

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Speaker 3: the advice from the advisory group?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 23: Well no, Well, look that there have been suggestions made

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Speaker 23: and government's made no decisions yet, but we're open to

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Speaker 23: all possibilities.

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Speaker 3: Well, when will the document become unleaked and just on

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Speaker 3: public on public show, and we can really get in

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Speaker 3: and get into the debate and make a decision.

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Speaker 23: Well, I'm not sure of the exact timing of that,

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Speaker 23: but until all sort of all documents ultimately become available.

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Speaker 23: The complication and relation to the theories is that were

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Speaker 23: also in the middle of negotiations to organize an exit

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Speaker 23: from the previous three billion dollar plan, and so that

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Speaker 23: there is an element at the commercial sensitivity around that.

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Speaker 3: Paul enjoy, we can go the avs and I thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Recalls E used dog zby.

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Speaker 3: And the document's leaked. It's leaked, It's out there. Jason

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Speaker 3: Walls joins me now from America. Jason, how are you, Jason?

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Speaker 13: Good morning? I'm very well.

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Speaker 3: How are you all right? So what have we got

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Speaker 3: at the moment? Good morning, We've got Christopher Lexm. He

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Speaker 3: actually met with Joe Biden. Discussion details remain unclear. What

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Speaker 3: did you hear about it?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, he met with Joe Biden a couple of times.

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Speaker 24: Actually the first time was at a White House dinner

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Speaker 24: last night where just as a side note, he said

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Speaker 24: he had surf and turf. But he met with him

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Speaker 24: and a number of other world leaders at the White

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Speaker 24: House was a big group photo taken outside before going inside,

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Speaker 24: but they.

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Speaker 13: Didn't really we didn't really get many.

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Speaker 24: Details of what they talked about, other than the fact

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Speaker 24: that Joe Biden likes New Zealand, which I can't really

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Speaker 24: do much with, but you would have seen behind the scenes.

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Speaker 24: There was a lot of talk this weekend about Russia's

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Speaker 24: of the Ukraine, so that definitely would have come up

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Speaker 24: in the conversations.

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Speaker 3: Also Christopher Lexan, I mean, he's had such a big

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Speaker 3: smile on his face. He's had so much fun, but

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Speaker 3: things got serious today because it's now chairing committees, that's right.

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Speaker 24: He's been sharing the IP four Pacific Indoor Pacific Forum,

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Speaker 24: which is essentially New Zealand, Australia, Japan and Korea.

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Speaker 13: So in that forum he was actually.

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Speaker 24: Joined by Vladimir Zelenski, who is really paying tribute to

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Speaker 24: the work that the group had been done. Of course,

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Speaker 24: New Zealand had given all sorts of money to Ukraine

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Speaker 24: were up to one hundred and thirty million dollars now.

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Speaker 24: But the interesting thing about what Chris Luckson said was

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Speaker 24: he was actually calling out China. He said the intent

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Speaker 24: sifying military relationship we see between Russia North Korea, and

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Speaker 24: China's role in supporting the rebuilding of Russia's industrial base

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Speaker 24: demonstrates the indivisibility issues between.

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Speaker 13: Europe and our part of the world.

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Speaker 24: And that sort of sentiment about China was echoed a

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Speaker 24: little bit later by Jens Stohlberg, who is the outgoing

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Speaker 24: NATO General Secretary. So you can see Chris Luxon really

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Speaker 24: really cozying up to those NATO partners and allies such

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Speaker 24: as the US rather than China. But he's going to

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Speaker 24: learn soon he has to come back to our very

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Speaker 24: lonely corner of the world where China still looms pretty large.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we're getting more and more reports that NATO officials

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Speaker 3: are getting more and more worried about Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 3: he's got the big climactic conference at ten thirty today

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Speaker 3: and he's solo. Are you hearing in the NATO conference

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Speaker 3: in the summit? Are you hearing more calls for Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden to step down?

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Speaker 24: It'll be the only question today will Joe Biden remain

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Speaker 24: on as the Democratic nominee. I mean, you had George

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Speaker 24: Clooney coming out and basically calling him to step us

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Speaker 24: all not basically calling on him to step aside, which

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Speaker 24: is one of the biggest blows yet for the president's president.

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Speaker 13: I mean, when you've.

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Speaker 24: Got thatt Man telling you you can no longer do

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Speaker 24: the job, I think it's time that he steps aside.

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Speaker 24: So I think that that is going to come up

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Speaker 24: in the press conference. We're heading to California now to

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Speaker 24: and Luxon said that he's meeting with Gavin Newsom, who

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Speaker 24: is a top Democrat, so obviously there'll be some questions

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Speaker 24: about him.

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Speaker 13: But it's not looking good for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jason, really looking forward to your coverage of these

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Speaker 3: issues and all everything that's happened to get in America

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Speaker 3: over the course of this day. It is now seven fifteen.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the natural gas. It's running

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Speaker 3: out very shortly. This is news a Big seven fifteen,

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Speaker 3: the Misking Breakfast. He said, Big seven eighteen. Supplies of

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Speaker 3: natural gas will not meet demand over the next three years.

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Speaker 3: That's what the guys from NB said yesterday. This is

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Speaker 3: going to put pressure on gas prices in order to

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Speaker 3: raise for the questions of how to secure supply without

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Speaker 3: reducing all even stopping operations. Our supply has been in

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Speaker 3: decline since twenty nineteen. Many would argue even longer than that.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the amount in our natural reserves decreased by

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Speaker 3: twenty percent because we've been using a lot. Director and

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Speaker 3: head of research at Analytica, John Kidd joins me. Now, Hello,

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Speaker 3: John Follding, Andrew, it's not a new problem, is.

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Speaker 16: It your problem that's been coming forward, as you say,

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Speaker 16: for quite a few years now, and which really what

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Speaker 16: we've seen over last two years in particular, it's just

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Speaker 16: a fairly dramatic acceleration of what's been a trend now

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Speaker 16: for the last five or six years.

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Speaker 3: So we're using gas like water, but we're not finding

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Speaker 3: any new gas to use.

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Speaker 16: No, we're not using gas like water or actually the

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Speaker 16: guess market isn't quite dramatic contraction. So you know, it's

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Speaker 16: probably an obvious thing to say, but we don't have

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Speaker 16: the ability to trade gas and out of New Zealand.

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Speaker 16: It's actually unique for a developed world. So win supply

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Speaker 16: is our demand has to meet that. So the gas

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Speaker 16: market has been shrinking for as you said, the last

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Speaker 16: five or six years, and that's just a function of

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Speaker 16: the physical reality of our market. We don't have the

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Speaker 16: ability to top up gas because it just doesn't come

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Speaker 16: into the system, so we're just drinking.

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Speaker 3: Is the problem that we've not been looking for new

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Speaker 3: supplies of gas or that there might not be supplies

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Speaker 3: at all out there.

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Speaker 16: It's definitely not a problem of not looking for new

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Speaker 16: supplies of gas. We've had five years now that pretty

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Speaker 16: much the same time period where there's been a period

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Speaker 16: of a very heavy investment activity insective. It's been something

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Speaker 16: like two billion dollars invested over the last five years,

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Speaker 16: fifty odd production wells which have been drilled, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 16: there's just been a very broad and very deep success

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Speaker 16: across that activity and we are where we are. I mean,

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Speaker 16: it's not what the Sepper had expected. That those work

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Speaker 16: programs were very well, they were considered to be relatively

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Speaker 16: low risk, and they were expected to deliver a lot

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Speaker 16: of gas in the system. And that just said happened

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Speaker 16: and that's the nature of the business.

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Speaker 3: John, Are you telling me that gas exploration did not

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Speaker 3: stop during the labor government.

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Speaker 16: Well, I'm probably saying is that the time horizons that

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Speaker 16: are involved with the sector are so long that most

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Speaker 16: of the work that I've just spoken about was scheduled

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Speaker 16: before the ban had come in. So I guess the

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Speaker 16: most concerning part for us now is what happens next.

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Speaker 16: Because the work that has gone into the sector of

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Speaker 16: the last five year parties had been well signaled and

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Speaker 16: had been planned for years. We're now into a next

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Speaker 16: generation really where all of the regulatory change that has

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Speaker 16: come out on the last two terms of government. New

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Speaker 16: investors and there aren't many of them left frankly or

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Speaker 16: existing investors now need to think about what they do next.

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Speaker 18: Do we go again?

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Speaker 16: Is there another two billion in the key to go again?

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Speaker 16: And I would suspect that the answer might be very

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Speaker 16: difficult to be. It's a very difficult investment proposition for

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Speaker 16: those companies to deal with.

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Speaker 3: Do we have to start preparing for a life without gas?

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Speaker 16: No, there will always be gas for the uses that

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Speaker 16: we are typically used to, so for the mums and

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Speaker 16: dads at home, industrial and commercial users, although they are

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Speaker 16: facing their own pressure industrial commercial users, there will be

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Speaker 16: available For those users where the pain is coming from

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Speaker 16: right now and has been for the last few years,

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Speaker 16: has been into the very large ing of town so methnecks.

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Speaker 16: They are the ones that are feeling the greatest pain

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Speaker 16: out of this whole situation and power generation, so those

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Speaker 16: users have had to curtail the rest of the market.

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Speaker 16: They will, i'd suggest, always be enough, guess to certainly

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Speaker 16: service those at home.

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Speaker 3: So we're looking for alternative sources of power other than gas.

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Speaker 3: Would that be a better way to actually sustain the

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Speaker 3: demand that comes from the beginning of town.

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Speaker 16: So I think that's you know, that beginning of the

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Speaker 16: town doesn't have an option. Frankly, their process is exclusive

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Speaker 16: to gas, and if they don't have gas, then they

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Speaker 16: can't process. So that's actually quite a big problem for

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Speaker 16: ended Ink Because I mentioned methnics before. They're a billion

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Speaker 16: dollar exporter. They were when they're running at high capacity

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Speaker 16: and billion dollars the exports out of the Taraoaki region.

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Speaker 16: That's now just a fraction of that because they can't

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Speaker 16: produce to what they would normally or what they did

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Speaker 16: the gas market was full, or those that are sort

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Speaker 16: of further down the chain. The transition is real and

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Speaker 16: everybody is focused towards getting away from fossil fuels, but

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Speaker 16: that's not something that can happen instantly or in many

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Speaker 16: cases even slowly. There needs to be fuel available to

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Speaker 16: be able to bridge between now and whether it's twenty

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Speaker 16: fifty or beyond or before. We need a bridge to

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Speaker 16: be able to do that, and gas is the ideal

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Speaker 16: fuel for that.

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Speaker 3: John, thank you, Brandon brilliant inside and I thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. John is the director and head of research

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Speaker 3: at Analytically, a private company that does deep dives and

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Speaker 3: research into gas and energy exploration. And this is a

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Speaker 3: big problem. Seven twenty three.

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Speaker 2: My costing Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: The Kiwi dream. Many would agree owning your own home

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Speaker 3: is a big part about that. And for those first

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Speaker 3: insurance home policies. Money back into Life stage is Kiwi

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890
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Speaker 3: bank can Star's best bank for the first home buyers

891
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892
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Speaker 2: Z to me.

893
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: So yesterday I left work and I began my drive

894
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: home and I passed by Victoria Park, lovely park in

895
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: the middle of town, and I saw forty people in

896
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: black track suits running around passing rugby balls, and I thought, well,

897
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: who could that be? Whill It's pretty easy to figure

898
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: it out. It was a big toll bloke in the

899
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: middle of it. Who's Scott Barrett. You can't hide them

900
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: And that's right. The all Backs were practicing in Victoria Park,

901
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: only twenty people watching. This is part of a new

902
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: initiative from Scott From Scott Robertson. I talked to a

903
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: blok called James Iverson. He's the baggage guy. He said

904
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: this practice is part of making the all Backs spend

905
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: less time at buses, more time with real people and

906
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: taking away. You know that aura of well, you know

907
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: we're special and we need to be protected. It's a

908
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: game of footy on some grass, he said. We just

909
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: needed to find some grass. Then the team went up

910
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: to les Mills and worked out. Then they went to

911
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: Eden Park for a full workout. Scott robertson as a revolution.

912
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: You saw that in the post match comments the other day,

913
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: so will we see it on the field when they

914
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: play tomorrow. We're going to talk to John Hart, former

915
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: all back coach about it. And also Nick's out that

916
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: from New Zealand's National Stadium on the new shot Clock.

917
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers. Andrew Dickens on

918
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, The Art of Performance

919
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: News TOGSB Mike is Zack.

920
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: On Monday, it's twenty three minutes to who ate. Sales

921
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: of spirits are set to overtake wine globally. We're buying

922
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: more spirits than wine right now. So we're going to

923
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: talk to the chief executive of Spirits New Zealand, whose

924
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: name can you believe it is? Robert Brewer. Mister Brewer

925
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: runs Spirits in New Zealand. We will talk about that

926
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: and probably make up a good NEGRONI just before eight

927
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: o'clock today here on Newstalk's heb nice to hear this

928
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: music back again when we played this every year forever

929
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: there come the men in blacks. It's been thirty years

930
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: since the Allbacks last lost on Edin Park. I was there.

931
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: It was that French game with the try from the

932
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: end of the world and I was sitting in the

933
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 3: Panasitic stand. So the try was scored on a very

934
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: furthest part away from where I was sitting. It was

935
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: a try from the end of the world. But thirty

936
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: years eh, now could England be the ones to spoil

937
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: the party? It's only one point victory last weekend sixteen

938
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 3: fifteen and Eden. So with me right now? Is format

939
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: all that? Coach John Hart? Hello, John morning?

940
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 17: Andrey?

941
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: How are you very good? So they've had a week

942
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: They's fair to say they've both been rusty. They've both

943
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: been able to really train. The weather's been fantastic and

944
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: it's been a first trek. It will be a first

945
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 3: trek tomorrow. Are you expecting a great test? And who's

946
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: going to improve the most?

947
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 15: I think it will be a great test. I think

948
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 15: last week was a great test direc really in terms

949
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 15: of the proximity of the scores. Both teams, you know,

950
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 15: brought different elements of the game. I thought England played

951
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 15: really well last week. This will be their last game

952
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 15: for the season, so they will be really fired up.

953
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 15: I think the All Blacks will improve and I think

954
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 15: probably that will be the difference. I think England showed

955
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 15: what they've got and it was very good and the

956
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 15: All Blacks will have to adjust accordingly. But I think

957
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 15: they'll improve sufficiently to make sure we maintain that unbeaten

958
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 15: record at Eden Park both week.

959
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: Seems we've convinced the English that it's okay to run.

960
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, I know he's got Look, I thought two of

961
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 15: the best players on the field last week were their

962
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 15: fullback Thurdbank and their half back Mitchell. I thought they

963
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 15: were excellent. They added to everything that England were doing

964
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 15: in terms of quick defense and getting quick ball and

965
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 15: carrying the ball well. Those two added so well. So

966
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 15: you know, I think he certainly has got them in

967
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 15: a mood where they are prepared to use the ball.

968
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 15: Their set piece scrum was very average last week and

969
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 15: I would think that's an area where again the all

970
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 15: backs will look for dominance and if that happens, and

971
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 15: you know, the game goes the way of the team

972
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 15: on the front foot.

973
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: Not a debate, particularly on Hit the Show last night,

974
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: about Finney Christie at number nine. TJ's hurt and that

975
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: was horrific to see, obviously, but I saw him yesterday.

976
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to be super bad. But it's Finny good.

977
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: I mean, this is one of his first times to

978
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: actually stand.

979
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 15: Look, he's got a very good game. He had a

980
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 15: difficult season with injury, finished very strongly for the Blues.

981
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 15: He I've got no doubt that his pass is actually

982
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 15: I heard the debate, passes quicker than paranaras per Andaras

983
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 15: brings different things to a game. His experiences is obviously

984
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 15: I'm told. But look, I think Finn Christie will fit

985
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 15: the all back pattern very well. They want to move

986
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 15: the more quickly and I think he'll do that well.

987
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Finn has the fastest pass. TJ is like a

988
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: second loose forward. And here they should get over the

989
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: fact that he's a vegan. What about Finn Baxter. He's

990
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: twenty two years old, he's a prop getting his first start.

991
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 3: What do you reckon about him.

992
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 15: Well, he looked when he came on, he had a

993
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 15: real baby face. I was shocked when he came on

994
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 15: last week, but I thought he held up really well.

995
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 15: But he will be under There be a baptism of

996
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 15: fire for him. The English will be very dependent on

997
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 15: his growing ability tomorrow. So you know he would have

998
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 15: learned a lot in that sixty seventy minutes that he

999
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 15: got last week. And you know he did very well

1000
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 15: in this sense of the young man having his first game.

1001
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 15: But you know he will be under fire tomorrow because

1002
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 15: this all backscrub looks very dominant and it is where

1003
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 15: they will go to try and achieve their dominance.

1004
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: Hey, it's nice to have a tour, but there was

1005
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: only two tests. Of course, we're playing Fiji in the

1006
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: USA next week. For some reason, should we have had

1007
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: a three test tour?

1008
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 19: Oh?

1009
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 15: Look, I think you know there's all arguments about these

1010
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 15: sorts of things. You know, on the end two tests,

1011
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 15: you know there'll be an outcome one way or the other,

1012
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 15: and the All Blacks will be all about winning this

1013
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 15: Test match. I mean it wins a series, but it'll

1014
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 15: be very important for them to maintain the unbeaten record

1015
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 15: that we have what thirty years at Eden Park and

1016
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 15: you know that's something very special. So I'm sure the

1017
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 15: All Blacks will be focused totally on this one game.

1018
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

1019
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: John.

1020
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Damian mackenzie has the biggest risk watch in history.

1021
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: It's on the Eden Park big screen and to put

1022
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: it on to the big screen was the park's chief

1023
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: executive for the station at the stadium of the ne

1024
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 3: next out Mahallo. Sorry, mack are you there?

1025
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 18: We go?

1026
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: Mouse did not work?

1027
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 21: Hello Nick, Good morning Andrew. How are you?

1028
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm very good. So do you buy a shot clock

1029
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: of off the shelf or did you have to make

1030
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: it yourself?

1031
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 21: Well, as you can imagine, the calls started coming through

1032
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 21: last Saturday night NZR and Eating Parks teams then work

1033
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 21: through on Sunday. The opportunities and possibilities. We've been fortunate

1034
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 21: over the last three years to invest thirty million dollars

1035
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 21: worth of venue upgrades, so we were able to accommodate

1036
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 21: the request and delighted to have that technology this weekend.

1037
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: Is it linked to the ref or do you have

1038
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: a shot clock operator?

1039
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 21: So it is linked, so it's an operational matter for

1040
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 21: enz R and the TMO, so it's not either my

1041
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 21: cell or one of my team pressing the button.

1042
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 3: Well, what screen is it going to be? On the

1043
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: big screen, you know, on the east end, or on

1044
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: every screen.

1045
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 21: We have three superscript into Eden Park, so the testing

1046
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 21: has been done to accommodate either one or all three.

1047
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: You're the first ground. Will this happen in every ground

1048
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: around the world? You reckon?

1049
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 21: I think it's a part of the fan engagement. If

1050
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 21: you look at whether it be basketball or other sporting events,

1051
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 21: the technology that's being developed in swimming with the world

1052
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 21: record line or even sailing. We need to continue to

1053
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 21: evolve and provide a fan experience that encourages people to

1054
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 21: come back to our.

1055
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: Stadiums absolutely sold out. You've got to find whether the

1056
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: high expected Tomorrow's seventeen degrees, it's just perfect. You know,

1057
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: the Nation Stadium is going to be just fine at it.

1058
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 21: As you can imagine. We want the Fortress to continue.

1059
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 21: It's a thirty year record, forty eight games. We've got

1060
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 21: to sell our crowd with staff. We'll have over two

1061
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 21: thousand staff working and with over fifty thousand people in attendance.

1062
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 21: So we're very proud of the economic benefit it delivers

1063
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 21: for the city, but also the escape is and so

1064
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 21: we're ready. The grass looks magnificent and looking forward to

1065
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 21: welcoming people arrive early tomorrow and experience the hype of

1066
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 21: Eden pask Our National Stadium.

1067
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 3: Good luck, thank you, Next out the yes the shot

1068
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: cock end for Damian Mackenzie. I saw him yesterday, very fit,

1069
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 3: very fast as a man, very bad sense of timing.

1070
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 3: But I don't just look up at the screen. Look

1071
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 3: up at the screen, Damien and good luck. I didn't

1072
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: ask any of those guys for a score prediction, though

1073
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: my own prediction is I'm expecting a rousing approval from

1074
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: the All Backs and a big win. I know that

1075
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: Elliot Smith reckons by seven, and I'm going to say

1076
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: All Backs by twelve. It is fifteen to.

1077
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: Eight the Mike Costing breakfast.

1078
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: Since that French tat's nineteen ninety four. The All Backs

1079
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: are unbeaten forty eight wins and two draws. That've hosted

1080
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: the England six times since nineteen sixty three. Twenty fourteen,

1081
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: the last time the team's met, the All Backs won

1082
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. Patrick Twopiloto and Bodhen Barrett, We're in the team.

1083
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: Then right now at Taxpayers Union, Curio poll asked New

1084
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: Zealanders whether the government should the inter Islander or not

1085
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 3: to a private operator. Forty three percent support the sale,

1086
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: thirty eight were opposed, nineteen unsure forty three. That's pretty

1087
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 3: big number. The poll was conducted last week. The future

1088
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: of the inter Islander hangs in the balance. Now, this

1089
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: is a fascinating question. I'll toe this. When Nicola Willis

1090
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: first canceled ki Rails requests for more funds for the

1091
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: irex project, I happened to be at a gathering and

1092
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: some of the people at the gathering work for the government,

1093
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: and they work for the government liaising with Kiwi Rail,

1094
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 3: and I said, wow, is this a bit hasty or what?

1095
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: And their reaction was, Kiwi Raw, can't just come up

1096
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: with an expensive plan and just wander up to the

1097
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: government and demand a one point five billion dollar top

1098
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: up after already asking for a billion or so of capital.

1099
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: That a taxpayer is not a bank of free money.

1100
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: This was from public servants and I thought, yeah, fair enough.

1101
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: But my thought is what would a private company do.

1102
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: So some might hit up their backers for one hundred

1103
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: percent of the money Some backers might do that if

1104
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: they thought the return was worth it. But in this

1105
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 3: case the money may well future proof and investment, but

1106
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: the return would be glasically still and loser. That's not

1107
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: likely to ever have happened. If it was private. Others

1108
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: might borrow the money from a third party, but that's

1109
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: you know, debt, and others might raise capital from a

1110
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: share issue. And then I wondered, why is it not

1111
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: just the enter Islander but Key we Rail as a whole.

1112
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: Why is it one hundred percent owned by you and I?

1113
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 3: They say the government, but it's you? And why do

1114
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: we have one hundred percent of this company Air New

1115
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: Zealand majority owned by US fifty one percent but forty

1116
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: nine percent in private ownership, which provides capital. And of

1117
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: course you can still ask a majority shareholder for money.

1118
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: That's what the current Prime Minister did back when he

1119
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: ran here in New Zealand, and he hit us up

1120
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: for two hundred middle. But rather than selling the ferries

1121
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 3: or the whole company to a private operator, which we

1122
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 3: have done once before to toll them Wisconsin, why don't

1123
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: we just float forty nine percent of it now for

1124
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: capital The capital of the company needs and the private

1125
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: capital will keep the company honest, and the public ownership

1126
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: would remind Kiwi round that it has to have a

1127
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: social license. Obviously, I wouldn't do it right now because

1128
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: the market's a bit stuff. But why don't we consider

1129
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: that a valid option. We're talking spirits with a man

1130
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: called Brewer. Next, it's ten to eight.

1131
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: Andrew dickens on them like costing Breakberst with Bailey's Real

1132
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: Estate News talks V.

1133
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: This is now seven to eight, so the news is out.

1134
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: The sales of spirits are set to overtake wine, and

1135
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: this is globally. But the funny thing is we already

1136
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 3: knew that in New Zealand. That already happened a while back.

1137
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: We are drinking less and therefore we spend our money

1138
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: a little differently. And last year, for the first time,

1139
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: we were more thirsty for spirits than wine. So spirits.

1140
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: New Zealand Chief executive Robert Brewer joins me right now, Hey, hey, Robert,

1141
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: how are you?

1142
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 10: I'm very good?

1143
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: Thank you givin we're such a wine country, given we've

1144
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: got such great wine giving, we're so proud of our wine.

1145
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: Was all this surprising?

1146
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 10: Well, I think the trend's been happening for some time.

1147
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 10: And I mean I work for the spirits industry obviously,

1148
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 10: but I'm also a proud New Zealand wine drinker myself.

1149
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 10: But a couple of things have happened over the last

1150
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 10: few years that has meant that spirits have been on

1151
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 10: the up and up. One is, as you've referred to,

1152
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 10: the consumers are drinking less, but they're going up the

1153
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 10: premium tree, so they're spending a little bit more but

1154
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 10: drinking less, and spirits lends themselves to that premium nature.

1155
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 10: At the same time, globally and actually here in New Zealand,

1156
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 10: the wine industries hit a bit of a bit of

1157
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 10: a slow patch, and so those things have combined to

1158
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 10: mean that certainly globally, spirits sales and volume sold will

1159
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 10: will pass wine and.

1160
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: Spirits have got better and better and better and better.

1161
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: I bought a gin the other day which was flavored

1162
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: with monica that you drink with ginger rail, and then

1163
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: it was absolutely delicious. What do you call them? Our

1164
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 3: spirit brewers? What's the technical too? Stillers, Thank you so much.

1165
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 3: Distillers are just getting better and better at their jobs

1166
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: around the world.

1167
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 10: Without a doubt, and in New Zealand. It's a growth

1168
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 10: story of some proportion. I think you know, fifteen years

1169
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 10: ago you could have counted the truly true commercial distillers

1170
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 10: on two hands. Now they're about one hundred and sixty

1171
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 10: to one hundred and eighty. Gin is the premium. Gin

1172
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 10: Is the is the watch word. But everybody's laying down

1173
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 10: what we call the dark spirits, the whiskeys and the

1174
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 10: RUMs because in the long term that's where the big

1175
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 10: profits are.

1176
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: And our New Zealand is preferring New Zealand made spirits

1177
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: or international.

1178
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 10: It's a mix as you would imagine, just like we. Yes,

1179
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 10: I wish I could say that I thought of that

1180
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 10: and it didn't come out the yeah, yeah, no, no,

1181
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 10: but yes, I mean the New Zealand consumer loves New

1182
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 10: Zealand spirits and drinks them. And of course, you know

1183
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 10: what I was going to say, the Kiwi spirit like.

1184
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 10: But you know what the Kiwis are like. They they

1185
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 10: love to look off shore and export and that's what

1186
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 10: and that's what our Kei we made spirits makers are doing.

1187
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: Robert she Is, thank you so much for coming in.

1188
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: And I have to say I couldn't think of the

1189
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: word distillers because Brewer being in charge of spirits, we

1190
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: have to say is a is a nice irony?

1191
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 10: Oh well, you know if I had a dollar for

1192
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 10: every time?

1193
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but we're very cheat humorous, no

1194
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: fair enough.

1195
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 10: Imagine if I if I ran the Brewers Association, that

1196
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 10: would be too much.

1197
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: Anyway, you go out there and shake things up. That's

1198
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: enough of that, Dickens. We're rapping the week. Yes, Tim

1199
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: Wilson is still here and Carrie Woodham has agreed to

1200
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: come in and give her thoughts. I'd like to know

1201
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: her thoughts about Mama bear protocols. Something I heard the

1202
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: word mama bear. Apparently you can do all sorts of activity,

1203
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 3: even illegal activity, if you're a woman, if you're a

1204
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: mama beer. What is a mama bear? What are the

1205
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: mama bear rules? Mama Bear? Kerry with him and Tim Wilson.

1206
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: I after using Sport, your.

1207
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: Trusted source for news and fews, Andrew Dickens on the

1208
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate doing real estate

1209
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three news togsa'd be.

1210
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: Where does your love? Where does your fave? Where is

1211
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: your whole?

1212
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: Well, this is a bit funky and all that, and

1213
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm all a bit more. Who's this?

1214
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: Gon beauty?

1215
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 12: Maybe? Wow?

1216
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 21: This?

1217
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: This is not moybe?

1218
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 12: What sort of maybe that's retty responsible for it?

1219
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: That voice is not movie. Here's a weedy, little white

1220
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 3: coral voice. This is not mobe? Who's this? So this

1221
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: movie's got a new album?

1222
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: Where is your creat and.

1223
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: What's it called? I can't quite figure it out? This

1224
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: is Always ended at Night? Digital imprint?

1225
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: What is this?

1226
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 12: The album is called always Okay? And so basically what

1227
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 12: he did he put it out there for people to

1228
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 12: collaborate on. And this is for the result of a

1229
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 12: couple of years.

1230
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: So he puts out some tracks. He says he have a

1231
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: crack and if I like it, I'll release it then

1232
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 3: you is it any good?

1233
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 12: Well, like most mobile albums, I struggle to figure out

1234
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 12: which bit's MOBI and which better is the collaborators? This

1235
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 12: is true and it's not like a sort of a

1236
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 12: central theme that seems to route through it. But with

1237
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 12: the tracks, each track on an individual scale as usually

1238
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 12: well produced and pretty listenable.

1239
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: And I thank you for your expertise. You will not

1240
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: believe how many road codes we've got in this country.

1241
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: You will believe, not believe how many road cones are

1242
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 3: not being used for what road cones were made for.

1243
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: I've got those figures for you a bit later on,

1244
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: but meanwhile we.

1245
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Can review with two degrees, fighting for fear for Kiwi business.

1246
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: Yes to wrap the week to Wilson joins us to

1247
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 3: as always tell it to.

1248
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 17: Andrew.

1249
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: It going very good and thank you so much. Carrie

1250
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: Woodham preparing heavily for her show to nine o'clock this morning,

1251
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: and we've said there is no cake. There is no cake.

1252
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: Please come and help us out to do so. And

1253
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 3: you're magnificently dressed in all black jersey. It is the

1254
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: day and well.

1255
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 7: The last time I wore this was at the World

1256
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 7: Cup in France where I almost got put off rugby

1257
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 7: for life. Watching England and South Africa. It was awful.

1258
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 7: It was like watching rugby being murdered. I was so

1259
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 7: I'm not you know. I thought England and like the

1260
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 7: Test last week, I had no expectations at all. I

1261
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 7: was so furious with England. I never wanted to see

1262
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 7: them play anything ever again. But I thought they did

1263
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 7: really well. It was a great test.

1264
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: One point, isn't it And they both had weeks to

1265
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: you to a week to get even better? And Tim,

1266
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: are you into this or not? Is this not your bag?

1267
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 17: Why would you say something like that. No one loves

1268
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 17: their rugby more than me Andrew, come on, get over it.

1269
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 7: Over wrestling with Testoster in this very morning.

1270
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 17: I'll tell I'll tell you what you're picking. What you're

1271
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 17: picking twelve? John's picking a victory as well. I kind

1272
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,479
Speaker 17: of go against the experts. Elliott your your rugby Man's

1273
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 17: picking five. I'll go I'll split the difference. I'll say seven,

1274
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 17: what do you think carry?

1275
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 7: No, I think it'd be more than I think it'll be. Yeah,

1276
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 7: I think a victory and I think double figures. Do

1277
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 7: you know the other thing? And I know I should

1278
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 7: let it go, Let it go, let it go, as

1279
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 7: Elsa would advocate. But uh, when England are here, they

1280
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 7: train at les Mills or have done it. I don't

1281
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 7: know if this particular team does, but they leave their

1282
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 7: weights behind for somebody else to pick up, which I

1283
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 7: just find unforgivable.

1284
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: And you've got to pick them up, You're got to

1285
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 3: clean them.

1286
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 7: And once I snapped at one young man and said,

1287
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 7: your nanny's not here to pick up after you you've

1288
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 7: got to put You've got to put your weights, and

1289
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 7: he just looked at me as though I was insane,

1290
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 7: an insane mad woman approaching him.

1291
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: But put you boys, put you away. It's just a.

1292
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 7: Lingering, harboring, petty receipt.

1293
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: Cam.

1294
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,479
Speaker 3: Well, can we now just talk about this because darling Tana.

1295
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: Of course, more details came out about how she might

1296
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: have been involved with her husband's company, including a bit

1297
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: of a contradant with someone a migrant worker, which involved

1298
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: the cops being called, and she said, oh, I'm sorry,

1299
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: I just got my mama bear on, so obviously you

1300
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: got your mama bear on with the English player. What

1301
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 3: is the mama bear No, I got.

1302
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 7: Thin lipped head mistress on because I thought they'd understand

1303
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 7: that better. Okay, if you want to look like I

1304
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Speaker 7: think that just stands for violent and shouting. Really, I

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Speaker 7: mean you want to look what mamas do, like the

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Speaker 7: mama elephant who when that idiot South African approached with

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Speaker 7: a camera. No he wasn't. He was a Spanish tourist

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Speaker 7: in South Africa and approached a mother elephant with her

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Speaker 7: babies in a herd. He paid in the most brutal

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Speaker 7: and horrible way when she turned Mamma elephant. You know

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Speaker 7: you can figure give an elephant. You cannot forgive a

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Speaker 7: rational woman for yelling and carrying on like.

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Speaker 23: A pork chop.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 7: You've got an anger issue in the group. For all

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Speaker 7: the comboy ara and peace and love, there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of shouting going on.

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Speaker 3: There, Mama Bear. Is that a decent enough excuse?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 15: No, well I.

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Speaker 17: Think it's not. It's not.

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Speaker 23: It's not an excuse for that.

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Speaker 17: That's that's a completely different situation. But I am I am.

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Speaker 17: I am very pro Mama and Papa Beer because I

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Speaker 17: actually had a son who was like, he was trying

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Speaker 17: to take a bean bag downstairs. We're staying at a

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Speaker 17: mate's place at the moment. We're out at Lee, so

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Speaker 17: I'm running four kids at the moment because my wife's

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Speaker 17: offered the studio recording songs. He's gore, can you carry

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Speaker 17: the bean bag down down the stairs. It's like, no, no,

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Speaker 17: you can do that yourself. So it's the different tempos

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Speaker 17: of wars sort of approaches the Mumma and Papa Beer.

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Speaker 3: Lifestyle of Tim Wilson, where he's at a coastal retreated

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Speaker 3: Lee and his wife is downstairs wearing Muslim with flowers

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Speaker 3: in his hair and recording songs and and you're hanging

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Speaker 3: hang with the kids. It's like Laurel Canyon.

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Speaker 17: Now it's not. It's it's Madison Bay. That's that's a

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Speaker 17: very different sitcom. What happening is they're actually they're actually

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Speaker 17: making breakfast and making their beds and putting on their

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Speaker 17: touch fedos for a caked breakfast in the morning. Now

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Speaker 17: it's a circus down here, So please you guys, save me.

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Speaker 7: You honestly, school holidays I do not gone. Are the

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Speaker 7: days where you'd pack up the car every school holidays

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Speaker 7: and one parent or two would take off and have

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Speaker 7: a lovely holiday. Usually that's when the fairies would go

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Speaker 7: and strike. That's exactly when the fairies would go, yeah,

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Speaker 7: a single time.

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Speaker 17: How would you now just run aground?

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Speaker 23: Run around?

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Speaker 3: Have you ever actually put yourself in the position of

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Speaker 3: the crew that were on the boat at the time

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Speaker 3: when they're just sort of going, oh, well, the boat's

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Speaker 3: working all nice and all good and all that sort

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Speaker 3: of thing, and someone bumps a button and then to

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Speaker 3: turn the button off, you've got to push another button

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Speaker 3: for five seconds. And Allen, of course is looking in

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Speaker 3: the in the manual, go hey, how does this work?

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Speaker 3: And finally when he figures out, oh mate, you gotta

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Speaker 3: hold it down for five seconds, and they hold it

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Speaker 3: down and the South Island continues to come closer. Can

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Speaker 3: you imagine what it must have been like in that fairy?

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Speaker 7: To me, the gold standard of incompetence and fairies is

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Speaker 7: that terrible Italian fairy captain who ran it around and

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Speaker 7: passengers died, and he was the first to flee the

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Speaker 7: ship after entertaining a little miss bang bang up.

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Speaker 3: In the up, and the captain he just wanted to

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Speaker 3: take the boat closer for a bit of.

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Speaker 7: You, I know, and the coastguard said get back to

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Speaker 7: your ship, and he went, no, it's dangerous there about it.

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Speaker 2: Until you can.

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Speaker 7: Compete with that kind of egregious, appalling behavior, then I'll

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Speaker 7: just wait for the investigation and see what's Walt.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about the NATO summit, We'll talk about Biden.

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Speaker 3: It is eight fourteen.

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Speaker 2: This is U.

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Speaker 3: Storks B.

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Speaker 2: The mic Hosking Breakfast New s B.

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Speaker 3: It is eight seventeen The Week in.

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Speaker 3: Look look a little text over. Just imagine being the

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Speaker 3: person who also sat there and went, hmm, I think

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Speaker 3: that python's fully I.

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Speaker 7: Have a bit of something, I really do.

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Speaker 3: I'd look, you've got to go. You feel sick and

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Speaker 3: you go, and can I run there and catch it?

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Speaker 7: No, it's that horrible thing if you don't mean it.

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Speaker 7: But the damage is so great that I mean because

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Speaker 7: I always.

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Speaker 17: Say that you know that furniture, that furniture that you

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Speaker 17: buy on the cheap, and you have to put it

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Speaker 17: together yourself. And this is actually one of the if

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Speaker 17: anyone is planning to get married, they should do that

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Speaker 17: together first. And if they're still looking with love on

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Speaker 17: one another's eyes.

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Speaker 2: Go forward and the family.

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Speaker 3: The family realized just before you've actually put in the

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Speaker 3: last bolt that you've got it all wrong in the

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Speaker 3: first place, and you built the thing upside down and

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Speaker 3: inside out, and they've been laughing for the last ten

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Speaker 3: minutes at you. And then yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Want to apologize to stores to because twice we've got

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Speaker 7: to the end of that, or we got to the

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Speaker 7: end of that, and I said, look that when back

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Speaker 7: to the store, there wasn't that extra bit you said

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Speaker 7: that we needed. It wasn't there, And they just handed

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Speaker 7: over with this sort of resigned look in their eyes,

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Speaker 7: and you get home and it's there, it.

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Speaker 3: Is there, It is okay, Tim Wilson. Have we ever

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Speaker 3: seen a New Zealand Prime minister more delighted and excited

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Speaker 3: to be at a global summit than Christopher Lexon?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, no, he's he's and he's chairing a committee,

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Speaker 17: he's getting getting tough on China. Interesting sort of wider

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Speaker 17: geopolitical situation. So it seems that Joe Biden has gained

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Speaker 17: Christopher Luxon this week but lost George Clooney. So think

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Speaker 17: it's looking good for Biden. I'm sorry that he is.

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Speaker 3: He's bouncing around like an anagizer bunny, going oh my god,

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Speaker 3: oh look that's that person, and oh look there's Trudeau

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Speaker 3: and he's just so just he's energetic and he's he is.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's what happens when you get up at

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Speaker 7: four a new exercise and you don't drink. Did that

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Speaker 7: be a lesson to all of us?

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Speaker 12: Really?

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Speaker 7: But I mean at least he's there, and when Sir

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Speaker 7: Peter is out there on the on the global stage,

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Speaker 7: I mean, just doing to be fair, was he was

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Speaker 7: out there on the global stage as well. But you know,

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Speaker 7: he's picking up where she left off, and you.

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Speaker 3: Can imagine world leaders that go, Look, he comes out

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Speaker 3: news in Prime Minister. He's happy, isn't he? That's lovely?

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Speaker 7: You know, positivity on a Friday is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that is so true that I.

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Speaker 7: Feel so sorry for Biden's press secretary. I think she's

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Speaker 7: doing an amazing job Kaarene. Yeah, I look at her

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Speaker 7: and think, however much you're paid, triple it. Joe Biden

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Speaker 7: cannot stay there.

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Speaker 3: He just can't trumps pressed.

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Speaker 19: Do you.

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Speaker 17: Well, here's here's the deal. The US the column is

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Speaker 17: doing incredibly so whoever's running the joint doesn't really just

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Speaker 17: keep it going.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you've got to have a good front man,

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Speaker 7: for heaven's sake. I mean, you wouldn't put up. You've

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Speaker 7: got to have a good front man and a great

1444
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Speaker 7: band behind you. You know, you can't have Joe Biden

1445
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Speaker 7: as yours you front?

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Speaker 3: Well, why do the Democrats not have enough walls to

1447
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Speaker 3: actually go for someone else? And you could say the

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Speaker 3: same about the Republicans.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 3: You know, have they lost their mojo? Have they lost

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Speaker 3: their courage?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, it's incomprehensible to me that

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Speaker 7: that's I mean, to everybody, that to the whole world,

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Speaker 7: that that is it, that's what America can offer.

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Speaker 17: And I think, yeah, and it's a problem I would say,

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Speaker 17: with the with the notion and in a sense, the

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Speaker 17: notion that politicians are a class on their own, and

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Speaker 17: and and the fact that the American elites aren't renewing

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Speaker 17: themselves from below. So I mean, and we've got a

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Speaker 17: bit of a problem like that in New Zealand as well,

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Speaker 17: because like we don't have that many actually we don't

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Speaker 17: have any working class people in parliament anymore. So we

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Speaker 17: need we need more people. We need the people.

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Speaker 7: We do have working class people in there who would

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Speaker 7: describe themselves as working class.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot of academic We have a lot

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Speaker 3: of academic class. We have a lot of we have

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Speaker 3: a lot more academic legal class. We have all those

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Speaker 3: sorts of people as well. So, you know, but I

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Speaker 3: see what families who come from you know, community, have

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Speaker 3: you not noticed a big.

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Speaker 17: Optimistic most of them can form sentences, full sentences, unlike

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Speaker 17: Joe Biden. Besides the positives, let's go Chris Laxon On

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Speaker 17: in DC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And have you not also noticed that there's

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Speaker 3: a generation that's looking at all the jobs that our

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Speaker 3: sort of generation does and they sit there go, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't really want to do that anymore.

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Speaker 3: And so you're quite right, we're not renewing ourselves as

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Speaker 3: as Tim said before, like who wants to read the

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Speaker 3: news on the TV? Who watches the TV these days

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Speaker 3: is a millennial.

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Speaker 7: But see that's not renewing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a new generation.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a new I think regeneration is better

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Speaker 7: than than just replicating good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Tim Wilson, have a great weekend, Kerry Wouldham have a

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Speaker 3: great chanky so much And this is News Talks B.

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Speaker 12: Also must be a complete disaster for Biden given all

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Speaker 12: the criticism he's been I bet it he's absolutely tanking

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Speaker 12: the polls. What have you got there, because especially the

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Speaker 12: Washington Post, they hate them.

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Speaker 3: This is true or true? Trump on forty six percent,

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Speaker 3: Biden on forty six percent.

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Speaker 12: What it's right?

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Speaker 3: I know? And you start thinking to yourself that the

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Speaker 3: Democrats actually put someone who was awake and could function

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01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 3: and did not fall asleep in place, maybe they might

1520
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 3: rate a little bit better than forty six percent.

1521
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 12: Or at least stopped biding Biden's back. This is true

1522
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 12: for Friday.

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: Very good. Now I want to tell you about TTM.

1524
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 3: Ttm ARE Temporary Traffic Management TTM is also going to

1525
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 3: be your talkback topic of the day. And I know

1526
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 3: this because I've talked to Kerry ttm ARE rogue cones,

1527
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 3: and Simeon Brown has got a fat war against rogue

1528
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 3: cones and he wants to reduce expenditure on those rogue

1529
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: cones and he's going to take measures to fix that up.

1530
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 3: And they will tell you those full details after News

1531
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 3: and Sport, which is next here on News Talk ZIRB.

1532
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. Andrew

1533
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement Communities,

1534
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,839
Speaker 1: Life Your Way News tog said.

1535
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: B ario Old's on the way twenty three minutes to nine.

1536
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 3: My name is Andrew Dickens. Twenty three more minutes and

1537
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: then I'm finished. And then of course Mike Hosking is

1538
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: back on Monday, and I can tell you a little

1539
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 3: bit about what Mike has done. He spent his time

1540
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 3: up at the Bats and because of Kate, I know

1541
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: that he forced her one afternoon to watch Beverly Hills

1542
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 3: Cop Axel Foley, the new Eddie Murphy film, which is

1543
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 3: on Netflix, which Kate did enjoy. Apparently they're now actually

1544
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: getting out of all the Harold Valdemar albums that they

1545
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 3: can find and all the Beverly Hills Cop albums, and

1546
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 3: they've gone down that little rabbit hole right now. So

1547
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 3: that's what Mike's been doing. And speaking of which Eddie

1548
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 3: Murphy and Beverly Hills Cop, he's on fire at the moment.

1549
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 3: They just announced that Strict five is coming in twenty

1550
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 3: twenty six. I've also announced that there is a spinoff

1551
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: Donkey movie. So Eddie Murphy ain't over and he's certainly

1552
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 3: bigger Mike's House at Mike's Back. On Monday twenty two to.

1553
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 19: Nine, International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

1554
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 19: Mind for New Zealand Business.

1555
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 3: Murray Olds, Welcome to the show.

1556
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 12: How are you, mate, Andrew?

1557
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 25: Very good morning here, mate, Yeah pretty well over here,

1558
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 25: thank you.

1559
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: Albo's not at NATO, but he's still getting involved in

1560
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: world politics.

1561
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 25: Well, yeah, he's got more impressing engagements at home, I suggest,

1562
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 25: because we've got the chance of an early election maybe

1563
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 25: later this year. But as more concern is expressed across

1564
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 25: the country about the cost of living crisis, not much

1565
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 25: hope or the hope of a rate cut and official

1566
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 25: interest rate cutters diminishing. More people are getting jobs, more

1567
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 25: people are getting paid, and those paypacks are feeding into inflation.

1568
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 25: So Albanize has got a very full book here at home.

1569
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 25: But the NATO conference in Washington was attended by the

1570
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 25: Deputy Prime Minister who also happens to be the Defense Minister,

1571
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 25: and Australia's committed a huge chunk of money. Well they're

1572
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 25: goods as well to the Ukraine fight against Russia. A

1573
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 25: quarter of a billion dollars, things like air defense, missiles,

1574
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 25: guided weapons, anti tank munitions. You've got small arms ammunition

1575
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,879
Speaker 25: as well, artillery, even got boots. So there's a swag

1576
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 25: of material heading up to Ukraine from Australia. It's the

1577
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 25: single biggest package of aid that Australia's delivered so far.

1578
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 25: As his war drags on and Richard Miles has promises

1579
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 25: more to come so Peter Dutton's up there as well

1580
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 25: in Washington. Is a conservative political dialogue that's underway in

1581
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 25: the American capital at the same time. So anyway, you

1582
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 25: know Albanese, he's very very much keen on spooking the

1583
01:16:55,439 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 25: benefits of the tax cuts, for example, that came in July,

1584
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 25: the first they started the Australian financial year. He desperately

1585
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 25: wants to get the agenda back on where he sees

1586
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 25: labor doing well against the opposition, which is you know,

1587
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 25: economic management, caring for people blah blah blah, as opposed

1588
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 25: to the binfire. That's you know, the senator of the label,

1589
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 25: the former labor senator from Western Australia, Fatima payment. I mean,

1590
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 25: that is just a massive distraction for Albanesi, the last.

1591
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: Thing he wants.

1592
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 3: But he's missing a hell of a show, you have

1593
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 3: to say, the whole Biden show. That's Biden's big day

1594
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 3: to day. It's a hell of a show. And by

1595
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: the way, you guys gave two fifty mili for Ukraine.

1596
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: Here in New Zealand we gave a whole what been

1597
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 3: great sixteen million to the Ukraine. There's a new report

1598
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 3: in Australia out into sexual violence.

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Speaker 2: Shocking.

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Speaker 25: This is from the Australian Institute of Criminology. I mean

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01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 25: back in May, violence against women. I mean it's almost

1602
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 25: two women a week are being killed in Australia at

1603
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 25: the hands of an intimate partner or a former partner,

1604
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 25: and that is a national crisis acknowledged by the national Cabinet.

1605
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 25: I mean all states territories in the federal government got

1606
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 25: together in May and said, listen, what are we going

1607
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 25: to do about this. Well, there's an academic study that's

1608
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 25: underlining the importance of this. Five thousand men and women

1609
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 25: aged eighteen to forty five were asked about about their

1610
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 25: sex lives and about do you use any sort of

1611
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 25: sexual violence. The results are absolutely shocking. Over twenty percent

1612
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 25: of participants had perpetrated one or more forms of sexual

1613
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 25: violence against someone else since the age of eighteen, and

1614
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 25: ten percent have done so in the last twelve months.

1615
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 2: Now, what do you mean.

1616
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 25: By sexual violence? Well, it could be harassment, there could

1617
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 25: be coercion, it could be flat out sexual assault. There

1618
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 25: could be that image based sexual abuse that is all

1619
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 25: too pervasive these days, according to the experts, where you

1620
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 25: have intimate pictures of a former partner and you spread

1621
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 25: them around on the internet. Now you've got sexual harassment

1622
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 25: and coercion. Ten percent admitted you know they have a

1623
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 25: pressured others for sex. One and twenty said they'd use

1624
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 25: psychological pressure. Others say they've got their their dates either

1625
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 25: high on drugs or alcohol. Sexual inter course without consent, well, hello,

1626
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 25: that's rape. And the list goes on and on and

1627
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 25: on and on. Now, men, of course significantly more likely

1628
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 25: than women to do this sort of stuff, and that

1629
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 25: it ties in too. And with the latest results in

1630
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 25: the Personal Safety Survey, one and five adult women and

1631
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 25: one in five adult the fifteen adult men have experienced

1632
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 25: sexual violence since the age of fifteen. And what this

1633
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 25: tells you is that you know, it's an absolute bloody

1634
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 25: crisis over here, and political leaders are scratching their heads

1635
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 25: mate how to deal with it?

1636
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 3: Extraordinary honesty from the responderse to that survey. Meanwhile, the

1637
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 3: father of the children killed in the Sydney house fire,

1638
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 3: I don't know where if we can call the father,

1639
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 3: but you know what devils are inside his head?

1640
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't know yet.

1641
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 25: But there was a court appearance yesterday and the matter

1642
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,879
Speaker 25: was heard and amount of local court here in Sydney.

1643
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 25: He remains under police guard and hospital, but he's conscious

1644
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 25: according to Homicide Squad police, and he knows what's happened.

1645
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 25: He will appear next in Penrith Local Court in September

1646
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 25: this year, when police have established a decent body of

1647
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 25: evidence to charge to further prosecute this fellow. He's been

1648
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 25: charged with three counts of murder relating to the deaths

1649
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 25: of three children, two boys, three and six a baby

1650
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 25: girl also who died in that blaze. Now there are

1651
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 25: still four children in hospital, three boys four, seven and

1652
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 25: eleven and a nine year old girl. The mother has

1653
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 25: been discharged and she was taken to the family home

1654
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 25: by police and by paramedics. She was able to see

1655
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 25: the floral tributes that have been left there and she

1656
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 25: read some of the cards. We understand as well. Now

1657
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 25: we've got a few details from the court appearance. I mean,

1658
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 25: this guy apparently spread accelerant around the home, the place

1659
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 25: on fire and then hung on to at least one

1660
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 25: child as a paramedic was as a Fire Brigade officer

1661
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 25: was trying to get him to wrestle the child away

1662
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 25: from dad. Another child apparently has come outside. According to

1663
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 25: belie and said to a neighbor, dad tried to kill us. Anyway,

1664
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 25: as you say, whatever demons are running around inside that

1665
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 25: guy's head, well no more when it gets back to

1666
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,480
Speaker 25: court in September.

1667
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: Have yourself a great week here in Marry Olds, and

1668
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 3: I thank you once again. It is now sixteen minutes

1669
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: to nine. Your talk back topic of the day is roecones.

1670
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: You love it, but you won't love what I've got

1671
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: to tell you. Next the Hoss good one too. It's

1672
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 3: thirteen minutes to name and this is news Stork's he be.

1673
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm Andrew Dickins. I don't know if you've noticed there's not

1674
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 3: been a lot of politics around this week. Of course,

1675
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 3: there's a reason for that, and that's because the House

1676
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: is in recess right now, so you know, the pollis

1677
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 3: are out on holidays and a lot of us are

1678
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 3: out on holidays. Mike's out on holidays, and so I

1679
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 3: fat yesterday I didn't have one single politician on the show,

1680
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: not one, and it was quite refreshing really because there's

1681
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 3: other stuff happening. However, they have been making a few

1682
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 3: odd announcements around the place. We had Paul Goldsmith this

1683
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: morning talking about this new advisory group, and we've had

1684
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 3: them around the place, and we had Simeon Brown of

1685
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,919
Speaker 3: course earlier this week on the whole ferries. Now Simon's

1686
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 3: also decided to take aim at the ttms. The TTMS,

1687
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 3: you're going to need this jargon if you're going to

1688
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 3: understand today. TTM stands for temporary traffic management and we

1689
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 3: all know that better as a road cone. Road cones

1690
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 3: not New Zealand's favorite place of plastic hardware, it's fair

1691
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: to say. But Simeon says the Coalition government wants to

1692
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 3: take action and is taking action to reduce spending money

1693
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: on road cones and other ttms temporary traffic management while

1694
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 3: maintaining the safety of workers and road users. So they

1695
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 3: got to roll out a new risk based approach to

1696
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 3: TTM to reduce the number of road cones on our roads.

1697
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: But as he says, you've got to keep the workers safe.

1698
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: There was some Boker was on the telly last week,

1699
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 3: was talking about road cones and safety and all sorts

1700
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 3: of stuff, and he claimed that forty road workers die

1701
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 3: every year and that's a very big number and they

1702
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 3: are kept safe by TTM and road cones. So you

1703
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 3: can't get rid of the road cones. You do need

1704
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 3: road cones. The question is do we have too many

1705
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 3: road cones. So the government has done a survey and

1706
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 3: they went to eight hundred work sites reviewed by the

1707
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,480
Speaker 3: NZTA Maintenance and Operations Team, and they did this in February.

1708
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: So there's eight hundred work sites, right, and they found

1709
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 3: that five hundred and fifty eight of them, that's nearly

1710
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 3: seventy percent, sixty nine point eight seventy percent of the

1711
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 3: sites were completely unintended.

1712
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 12: Nobody was there, so not that great a risk to

1713
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 12: the workers, then.

1714
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 3: Not a great risk to workers, No workers at all,

1715
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: not even a sprain thumb there was.

1716
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 12: I believe it is those sites that probably caused people

1717
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 12: the most frustration is that they drive passed them.

1718
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 3: That's right. Look at that.

1719
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 12: About a third of the speed that they would normally

1720
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 12: be able to drive past them. Because look at that.

1721
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: What am I looking at? You're looking at it?

1722
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 12: Absolutely nothing, there's nobody there, totally traffic manager. It's true.

1723
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 3: Okay, well look it gets worse. Okay, So five hundred

1724
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: and fifty eight, seventy percent of sites unattended. Of those

1725
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: five hundred and fifty eight unattended sites. Apparently one hundred

1726
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 3: and forty five or twenty six percent or a quarter

1727
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 3: if you want to just make it easy, were found

1728
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:34,959
Speaker 3: not to be needed at all. The roadworks had finished,

1729
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 3: the cones were still there. There was no worker ever

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Speaker 3: going to come to that site, but the cone was

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01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 3: still sitting there doing its duty. Now, this obviously is

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01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 3: an incredible wastage of cones. But this is the other thing.

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01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 3: It's an incredible wastage of money. How much money is

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01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 3: spent on TTM. I can't give you the nationwide figures. However,

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,839
Speaker 3: I can tell you that all can Transport Alone estimates

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01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 3: it spends one hundred and forty five million dollars a

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01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 3: year on the cones and other TTM like the signs,

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01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: but they don't get the bad press. I got a

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01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,919
Speaker 3: text from Linda earlier today who said, I was shocked

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01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: to hear the road cones are rented out at three

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01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 3: dollars a cone per day?

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Speaker 12: Is this right?

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01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: If so, I want to marry the owner. Good text, Linda.

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01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 3: But here's the thing that's going to freak you out

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01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 3: even more. You're wrong. The cones are in fact rented

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01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 3: out at four dollars a day and if you want

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: it for a week, it's eleven dollars. And the other

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01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 3: day I was in Bunnings and I saw a road

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01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: cone and it was for sale. So you can buy

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01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: your own and the current price and you will don't

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01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: get any cheaper, because I've heard the ads. The current

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01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 3: price for a road code and Bunnings nineteen dollars. You

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01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 3: can rent that sucker out for eleven dollars in a

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01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: week and the second week you're making money. Then your

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01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: home and hoes. Yes, get out there and marry a

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01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 3: road cone owner. I've been wanting to know who is

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01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 3: the rod cone billionaire. No one knows many pitz suggest

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01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 3: there are many of them. Do they make them?

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01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 10: Know?

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01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 3: They just import them from China. This is money for

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Speaker 3: jam and this is your talkback topic of the day

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Speaker 3: on News Talks.

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Speaker 1: MP Andrew Diggers on them My costing Breakfast with Jaguar

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01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: News Talks eNB.

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Speaker 3: How good is it to have a research department And

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01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 3: they've done some research on that claim from that bloke

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01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 3: on the telly that said forty fatalities. That's wrong. There

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01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 3: are though, forty serious incidents a year amongst road workers,

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01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 3: and there are ten fatalities a year, which is still

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: a pretty high number. So you need the road codes

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01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: and you need the TTM to stay safe. But the

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01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 3: question is how much TTM. It is five to nine.

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01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait for this movie, dead Pool versus Wolverine.

1775
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 3: Yes it's R eighteen, Yes it's going to be filthy,

1776
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 3: but it's going to be fun. It's highly anticipated. Ryan

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01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 3: Reynolds is huge, Hugh Jackman is back. People can't wait

1778
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 3: to see this. We get it on July the twenty six,

1779
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 3: but they've had the premiere in the UK. And of

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01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: course these guys have got the gift of the gab.

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: There was a bro mance moment between Reynolds and Jackman

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01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 3: on the rig capet.

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01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 12: Thet's a drink come true for me.

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01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 11: I mean it's something that I since day one of

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01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 11: playing this character in this way, I wanted to be,

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 11: you know, standing next to.

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01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: This guy, and for so long it.

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01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,520
Speaker 7: Seemed like that was not going to be a possibility.

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01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: And somehow, some way, you know.

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01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 17: Love prevailed.

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01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 14: The first seed in my brain was watching Deadpool one

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01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 14: about three days after announcing my retirement, which and I

1793
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 14: went ooh, I hang on.

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01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 12: A second ooops anything I felt a bit and then

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01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 12: I was like, no, I've said it.

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01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with it.

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01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 14: Literally, I can tell you the day in August fourteenth,

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01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 14: twenty twenty two, and it wasn't up here, it was

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01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 14: just in here, this the Balls of Blight, and he's saying,

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01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 14: I really want to Oh how I want to I

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01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 14: want to play this part.

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01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 12: I really want to play it.

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01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 14: And I want to play it Agresser opposite Deadpool.

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 3: Did you hear how he suddenly drops his voice down

1805
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 3: because it's right Wolverine, I'm way down here, Hugh Jackman.

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01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 3: Look at look for videos of him because he's in

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01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: his fifties and something. He's back to being Wolverine again.

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Speaker 3: You had to work out to get the wolverine muscles,

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01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: and just watching this man do what he does to

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01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: his body, it's just horrific.

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01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 12: I've often thought, but I mean people sort of do

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01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 12: it to them, though, don't they. Yeah, get somebody just

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01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 12: sort of work out my body for me.

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01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: They follow blind and you follow blindly instructions and suddenly

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01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 3: you look like.

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01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 12: Feed me and feed me the food and all that

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01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 12: sort of things.

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Speaker 3: Glenn, it's been lovely working with you. And you can

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01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 3: get a perfect body if you just put your mind

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01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,879
Speaker 3: to it. And Sam, thank you so much for he's.

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01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 12: A perfect body.

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01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 3: He does actually that is that he is a Jim Bunny.

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01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: And also Lily, the unknown and unseen Lily who works

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01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 3: at night making the show happen to be Lily.

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01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 12: Good try though I might just.

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01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 3: Quit right in fact quit, I'm going goodbye. And Mike

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Speaker 3: is back on Monday, and thank you so much for

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01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 3: your tolerance that you're coming over the course of the week.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

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