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Speaker 2: Hello, are you great, New Zealanders? And welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoon's full Show Pod number eighty four, eighty

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Speaker 2: four ticking along. It is the eleventh of March. It's

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday, and had a fantastic show. A lot of

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Speaker 2: heartwarming stories about checking in on parents and some horrible

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Speaker 2: stories about cats eating dead people's noses.

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Speaker 3: Later on the show nasty creepy yes.

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Speaker 2: And look we went deep into business in India, some

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Speaker 2: really interesting stuff there. So I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: bloody good show. Actually I enjoyed myself, so hopefully you

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Speaker 2: enjoy it. So I set to download, subscribe, shared, do

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Speaker 2: all those beautiful things. Thank you so much for listening,

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Speaker 2: and give them a taste of Kiwi Love you.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 1: X ninety attention to detail, had a commitment to comfort

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Speaker 4: There'd be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Welcome into the show, Tuesday after Noon, seven

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Speaker 3: past one. I hope you're having a great day, Ghetto.

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Speaker 2: Matt get A, Tyler get everyone.

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Speaker 3: Now, there's been a lot of shit about The White Lotus,

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Speaker 3: and I know you're a Messa fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I am, although I didn't watch a new episode

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Speaker 2: that came out last night. It's on Neon.

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Speaker 3: Well there's a headline that has just caught my attention

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Speaker 3: and I'm in the White Lotus. Harry Potter star Jason

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Speaker 3: Isaac shops fan with revealing nude scene. You can have

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Speaker 3: a read of it on the hero but I'm just

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Speaker 3: having a look at the picture. I'm just going to

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Speaker 3: turn this around. I mean, that's almost a little bit

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Speaker 3: basic instinct going on there. Who as if you needed

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Speaker 3: another reason to watch The White Lotus.

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Speaker 2: Every season a White Lotus has some kind of full

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Speaker 2: frontal nudity in it, doesn't it. Yeah, you know, confronting

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Speaker 2: some brand in season one. Oh my god, there's a

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Speaker 2: around a certain father's operation. There's not going to details,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, so I haven't seen White Loaders episode four.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that's a spoiler or that's

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Speaker 3: just something to look forward.

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Speaker 2: To watch huge spoiler. Yeah, we go so you don't

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Speaker 2: tell us anything on nine two nine two on that

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Speaker 2: and we had a huge conversation you studied, didn't we

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Speaker 2: about how much more enjoyable at us to watch shows

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Speaker 3: There it is. It's a talking point every week right

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Speaker 3: on to today's show. Now, this was something that happened

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Speaker 3: to you yesterday. The question we're going to put to

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Speaker 3: you before we tell the story is how far do

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Speaker 3: you push it when it comes to meat products? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: as if you want to use the best before labels

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Speaker 3: or if you've just left meat outside of the fridge

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Speaker 2: it's it's quite a harrowing story. It is a of

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Speaker 2: the meat package that could have been. It actually looked

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Speaker 2: like the head, the box that had the head on

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Speaker 3: What's in the.

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Speaker 2: Situation? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, how can you push meat?

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Speaker 2: I think the sniffiest is all you need. I think

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Speaker 3: Yep, And hopefully we'll speak to an expert on that

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock as well after two o'clock. How often

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Speaker 3: right now, let's have a chat about doing business in India.

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Speaker 3: It is on the back of course of Christopher Luxen.

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Speaker 3: He is sticking to his commitment to try and secure

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Speaker 2: Well, there's one point four billion people if you go

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Speaker 2: But have you done business with India? I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: don't know how it works. It's like a float. In Bangalore.

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Speaker 2: The traffic flows like a river. People aren't stopping at intersections.

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Speaker 2: It's just you know that the logistics of getting around

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Speaker 2: is interesting. Are you trying to do business with India

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Speaker 2: it even a thing do we have? Because what are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you take dairy and off, you know, what

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Speaker 3: Well have we got Well apparently we higher tariffs on

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Speaker 3: that surely is something that our Prime minister can hopefully change.

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Speaker 2: Flood them with some wine. Yep, that's good.

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Speaker 3: What else have we got? L and P? I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know what else do they want? You're quite right,

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Speaker 3: but clearly that is a massive international market. We do

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Speaker 3: to be making some more leguway with the Indian subcontinently.

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Speaker 2: On the other side of the coin, if you've come

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Speaker 2: What is the differences on the ground here, Because you

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Speaker 3: YEP, keen to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Have you done

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is

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Speaker 1: XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort.

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Speaker 3: News talks, there'd be good afternoon. It is sixteen passed

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Speaker 3: one and on the back of the Prime Minister heading

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Speaker 3: secure a free trade deal, We've asked the question, have

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Speaker 2: Welcome to show Mike. You've done a bit of business

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Speaker 2: in India, I believe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Matt. Back in twenty sixteen, I spent a year

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what cities was that in?

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Speaker 6: It was in Mumbai, which was a cool place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it's a cool place. What are

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Speaker 6: Well, apart from the traffic being a bit busier in

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Speaker 6: the talktook horns being incessant, I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 6: I found was just the cultures different. I mean, India

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Speaker 6: is I don't know, people have to wherek and fight

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Speaker 6: bit more aggressive. It's honest in a way, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was just Keys are pretty laid back and India

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Speaker 6: is just a little bit more confrontation, I guess, And

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Speaker 6: the same applies to business.

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Speaker 3: Was there quite a few challenges to tap into that market?

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Speaker 2: Mike?

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Speaker 3: How did that work for you to try and get

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Speaker 6: Well, I wasn't there going so much to get into

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Speaker 6: a market. I was actually supporting a sister company. I

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Speaker 6: work for a Swiss company, and so I was there

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Speaker 6: to help them look at their go to market strategy

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Speaker 6: and their operations and so.

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Speaker 2: Are there different societal norms in business dealings in India?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I worked in the medical device area,

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Speaker 6: where you're sort of bound by various codes of ethics

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Speaker 6: and so on. And probably the biggest societal normal was

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Speaker 6: it was quite normal to have a salesand incentive for

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Speaker 6: its amount of products you got gold, which to me

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Speaker 2: You've got gold like actual gold bars?

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Speaker 3: And how did you trade those? Were they're shops set

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Speaker 6: Look, I think yeah, to be a huge opportunity. I

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Speaker 2: So I wonder if that's an opportunity if you have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there could be. I mean I think you'd have

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Speaker 3: M hm, incredible. I mean, so you said you're working

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Speaker 9: No, not really, I mean.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, one thing that New Zealand business people often

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Speaker 2: in India? Is that is that a cultural difference?

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Speaker 6: So love a whiskey, mate, good to know.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for your call, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe we can export some alcohol over there. Wine yep,

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Speaker 2: we need them to know their tariffs on wine. It's

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Speaker 3: Well I was going to say, do they like that?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's not for us. That's what these guys were saying.

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you if you've done business in India,

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if you've been doing business in New

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Speaker 3: But to try and tap into some of these massive markets,

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Speaker 4: Digging into the issues that affect you. The Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Now, the poll I'm here to tell you this morning

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Speaker 2: Bolk is better than value. Add back tomorrow at six

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Speaker 2: am The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Mayley's Real Estate News

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Speaker 3: On the back of the Prime Minister heading to India

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Speaker 3: Have you done business in India and how do you

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Speaker 3: feel about the prospect of tapping into that market? Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighties the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Some great texts coming through on nine two, nine to two. Guys.

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Speaker 3: The India trade tential lamb wine, apples, primary products, seafood.

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Speaker 3: I mean that sounds good, but theairy is a massive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't look very likely that would get any

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Speaker 3: That was kiwi fruit?

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Speaker 3: Education, tourism, sheep meat and seafood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the thing like when when someone comes

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Speaker 2: that we're selling to India. Mahish, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: You're from India originally.

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Speaker 11: Well, I was born India.

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Speaker 5: My early child was in Singapore.

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Speaker 2: So you came here by your by yourself when you

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Speaker 2: And what was that.

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Speaker 2: And you what you signed up to a school as

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Speaker 5: No, I was just homestaying sporting.

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Speaker 5: But have been back to India multiple times and have

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Speaker 2: And what do you think of the main difference is

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think.

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Speaker 5: I think what's really important to understand is you're talking

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Speaker 5: spend about two years paying cost on learning on how

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Speaker 2: So that's so that's on the ground. So you have

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Speaker 5: and just you know, you say you've got a car park,

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Speaker 5: You're an office car park something. If someone just some

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Speaker 5: thug just kind of stands for the car park, the police,

443
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna come around and sort it out. You're gonna

444
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Speaker 5: have to pay someone to sort it out.

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Speaker 7: Right. That's a small.

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Speaker 5: Little example of many, many things you're gonna have to

447
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Speaker 5: work to navigate. And the best bridge for qv businesses

448
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Speaker 5: and kiwis going over the Indian diaspora here really happening

449
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Speaker 5: into and learning because I'm not Indian, like I trust me,

450
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Speaker 5: if I go there, I get I get eaten up,

451
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Speaker 5: no doubt. But if there are so many people who've

452
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Speaker 5: recently come and who are hungry and want to do

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Speaker 5: good and want to be a bridge should tap into them.

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Speaker 5: You look at the followers. You look at the followers

455
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Speaker 5: of all of our cricketers. Yeah, you look at Simon Dual,

456
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Speaker 5: Scott staris Rutchian, Russian's hot. So how do we use

457
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Speaker 5: the commonalities like the Indian diace break here, like the

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Speaker 5: cricketers extra TRC to act as a channel, as a bridge,

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Speaker 5: so that we can understand this huge growth engine that's

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Speaker 5: going to keep going for the next ten to fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting point because when I've been in India,

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Speaker 2: I've been amazed that had the high profile that New

463
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Speaker 2: Zealand has over there just because of cricket. Because we're,

464
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Speaker 2: you know, one of the nations. We've upset them a

465
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Speaker 2: few times. Not at the end of the Champions Trophy

466
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Speaker 2: they beat us, but they know our players. Their players

467
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Speaker 2: have been superstars in the IPL and of course beas

468
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Speaker 2: McCullum was the first massive superstar in the IPL. So

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Speaker 2: that would mean as opposed to a normal nation of

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Speaker 2: five million as a as a brand New Zealand is

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Speaker 2: no one across India. Would you say that's yeah.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Let me give you an example. Say we have an hcast

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Speaker 5: service provider that wants to move into India and we

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Speaker 5: could provide a high end each service.

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Speaker 7: Because this business in New Zealand has.

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Speaker 5: Worked it out and they want to have a crack,

478
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Speaker 5: So they use one of our cricketers to just open

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Speaker 5: up in US in a high profile state and Tier

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Speaker 5: one state and just get it going and you pay

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Speaker 5: costs right for the first two years. After a while,

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Speaker 5: the market just takes care of itself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks so much for you call.

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Speaker 3: Great to chat with you. I mean that whraraises a question,

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Speaker 3: why isn't Christopher lux and taking over some of our

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Speaker 3: best cricketers Richard Headley. I know he's getting a bit

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Speaker 3: old now.

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Speaker 2: But he could go over. No one remembers Richard Headley,

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Speaker 2: Stephen Fleming. It was Stephen Flemings that it's incredibly successful

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Speaker 2: IPL coach, the most successful OPL coach of all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's also very cashed up and I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he wants to be a trade delegate, but but I

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Speaker 2: think I think you're you're right. I mean, actually we've

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Speaker 2: got to go to the news here, but i'll sort

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Speaker 2: of tell you a little story about my experience with

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Speaker 2: New Zealand cricketers when I was over in India. And

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Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty amazing how well they're knowing over there.

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Speaker 3: Very good headlines with railing coming up.

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Speaker 13: one hundred and twenty five thousand meals each day Compass

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Speaker 13: Group has told the Ministry it will take responsibility for

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Speaker 13: providing meals. The Prime Ministers criticizing Wellington Regional Councils which

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Speaker 13: didn't make the deadline for joint Infrastructure Proposal bids Labor

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Speaker 13: says the party wants certainty and continuity for foreigners investing

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Speaker 13: in New Zealand infrastructure, but it's questioning the government commitment

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Speaker 13: to making deals by partisan Two vessels are still burning

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Speaker 13: new parents at end Zaid Herald Premium Back to matt

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Speaker 13: Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about

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Speaker 3: doing business in India on the back of the Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister's Trade delegation two India to try and secure a

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Speaker 3: free trade deal, and.

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Speaker 2: Look, I want an apology from you, Tyler for a

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Speaker 2: lack of research.

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Speaker 3: I've got to eat some humble pie here.

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Speaker 2: So apparently there you were before, there you were before, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: let me finish, let me finish, go go before saying

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Speaker 2: they should take a cricketer over there for some as

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Speaker 2: a delicate. Yeah, I thought it to be a good idea,

529
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Speaker 2: as a delicate. I'm hassling you and I've said a

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Speaker 2: delicate instead of a delegate. And if you would listen

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Speaker 2: to news talks he'd been news Tyler, you would know

532
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Speaker 2: they're taking Ross Taylor here.

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Speaker 3: So apparently Luxon.

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Speaker 2: Is taking Ross Taylor with them to India, U muppets,

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Speaker 2: listen to your own news boys. Luxon is taking Ross

536
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Speaker 2: on the trade trip. Ross is one of the delegates.

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Speaker 2: Just so you know Luxon is taking Ross. Guys, you

538
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Speaker 2: need to listen to ZEBG news. Bugger, wrong guy. They

539
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Speaker 2: should have taken someone that did better in the IP.

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Speaker 3: It's a good ticke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the point. We'll fight back with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Ross Taylor, I mean fantastic, one of our greatest batsman's

543
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Speaker 2: of all time. Absolutely love Ross Taylor. H but he

544
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Speaker 2: got paid a lot for the IPL and didn't didn't

545
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Speaker 2: make a lot of runs over there. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: In my defense when Dame three Swalsh was saying that

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Speaker 3: to Mike Coskeen, I was busy walking the dog or

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Speaker 3: something else a.

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Speaker 2: Lot more fun, no head of my heart right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can listen to you can You should be listening

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Speaker 2: to news. He'd be twenty four seven when you're not

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Speaker 2: on here.

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Speaker 3: I do that after the shape when I'm cooking tea. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but thank you very much, Ross Taylor. They know what

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Speaker 3: they're doing, clearly, they know what they're doing. They're taking

556
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Speaker 3: a pretty good cricketer. But love to hear your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Just before we

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Speaker 3: go back to the phones, you mentioned you wanted to

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Speaker 3: pick up something that happened to you when you went

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Speaker 3: to India.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. So just just how hugely famous

562
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Speaker 2: the players are over there. But it was an also thing.

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Speaker 2: So I was staying in Bengaluru and I was staying

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Speaker 2: at the Ritz Bangalore with the Royal Challenges Bangalore. One

565
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Speaker 2: point I got up in the morning for a swim.

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Speaker 2: I guess he was the only other person in the

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Speaker 2: Infinity pool I swimming with. It wasn't an infinity pool.

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Speaker 2: It was like a pool with a with a waterfall

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Speaker 2: coming out, very colic, just me and him.

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Speaker 3: Oh was it?

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Speaker 2: Actually it was?

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Speaker 3: Did he say hello?

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Speaker 2: No, he was miles at the other end of the pool.

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Speaker 2: I sort of swum over to say hello, and then

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Speaker 2: he sort of swum off. He was he was taking

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Speaker 2: selfies of himself on the phone.

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Speaker 3: He's a good looking man.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, the players basically couldn't leave the New Zealand players.

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Speaker 2: There was Brendan McCullum there, and there was Tim Sourthy,

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Speaker 2: and there was Daniel Vittoria as the coach at that point,

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Speaker 2: and Cory Anderson. They basically couldn't leave the hotel because

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Speaker 2: they were such superstars there. So absolutely makes sense. And

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Speaker 2: you turn on the television, You've got five channels of

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Speaker 2: Danny Danny Morrison commentating cricket. He's a big star over there,

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Speaker 2: so Stephen Fleming. So it's a huge thing. But I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what we we I met someone over there,

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Speaker 2: an Indian guy who's you know, like you ended up

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Speaker 2: hanging out in the widest circle of things, was staying

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Speaker 2: in the hotel as well, and he could not believe

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Speaker 2: our access to the New Zealand players, because the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand players, you know, we're a country of five million,

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Speaker 2: They're going to talk to anyone.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: We ended up hanging out having dinner with them and

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Speaker 2: you know, having a few beers with them, and this

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Speaker 2: guy was like, oh my god, I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: basically like, by God's here. And so anyway, he ended

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Speaker 2: up getting their numbers somehow, finding out their room numbers

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Speaker 2: and started just haranguing them because because for him it

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Speaker 2: was like, this is a business opportunity. I've met these people.

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Speaker 2: It's one once in a lifetime opportunity. That's that might

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Speaker 2: be going back to Mike school before about how hungry

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Speaker 2: people are over there. We're as we're casual. We're like,

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Speaker 2: you know, hang out with best mcallum. We don't try

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Speaker 2: and run organize a business deal with them at the time.

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Speaker 2: We just we just get dangerously drunk.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to comprehend, isn't it right? Oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. We'll take a place of messages

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Speaker 3: because we're horribly late, but when we come back, we'll

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Speaker 3: take more of your phone calls. It is nineteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be good afternoon and we're talking about doing business

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Speaker 3: and India on the back of hopefully our Prime minister

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Speaker 3: securing a free trade deal. Looks unlikely, but he's going

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Speaker 3: back to India and meeting with the Prime Minister Mody

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Speaker 3: to try and get it across the line.

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Speaker 2: Unless he's reaching out, and I think it's greatly tacking.

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Speaker 2: Ross Taylor. Yeah, fantastic best But that was a great

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Speaker 2: right hand man.

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Speaker 3: A thank you to the hundreds of ticks that said

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Speaker 3: Tyler Y'm up, he's taken Ross Daley. Yeah, message receive.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Navin. Your thoughts on doing business

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Speaker 2: with India.

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Speaker 14: Oh, yes, I have been in New Zealand the last

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Speaker 14: twenty years. I'm basically I'm from Bangalore. Yeah, I worked

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Speaker 14: with New Zealand cricketers. We go on trying local schools

630
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Speaker 14: in a summer camps. It's a really big and a

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Speaker 14: massive attraction for Indian schools. They do like it's a

632
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Speaker 14: marketing and sales. And if you come back to the

633
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Speaker 14: trading between two countries, it's a really really good opportunity

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Speaker 14: where the food food the main food main like like

635
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Speaker 14: a lamb and they have apple New Zealand apples and

636
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Speaker 14: Kiwi food. There is a lot of demand. I have

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Speaker 14: got heaps of inquiries every time. Presently I'm working with

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Speaker 14: the New Zealand pinewood palettes are highly demanding back in

639
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Speaker 14: India because in India wood is not they are not

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Speaker 14: ready to use in a local good which a government

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Speaker 14: is banned. I have a lot of Deman working on

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Speaker 14: that with a few cricketers as well as the palettes

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Speaker 14: exporting to India. It's a lot of demn right.

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Speaker 2: So you're working as a bridge because you know both

645
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Speaker 2: both countries. You know how both countries work.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a it's a it's a different culture. But

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Speaker 14: as somebody mentioned in earlier in the call, you have

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Speaker 14: to be there, work with the face to face, do

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Speaker 14: some like legal agreement. That is the way you can

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Speaker 14: deal with Their definitely very friendly, they know very well

651
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Speaker 14: what about New Zealand. Their low New Zealand. You have

652
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Speaker 14: to be there physically to deal the business well.

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Speaker 2: How do you think it would go if you were

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Speaker 2: just a New Zealander like me growing up in Dunedan

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Speaker 2: uh and then just got on a plane over there

656
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Speaker 2: and tried to sit up over there. How well do

657
00:31:46,373 --> 00:31:48,373
Speaker 2: you think I would go? Would be better for me

658
00:31:48,453 --> 00:31:50,693
Speaker 2: to make have a relationship with someone like you before

659
00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:51,013
Speaker 2: I went?

660
00:31:51,893 --> 00:31:55,533
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, that's yeasy, Because you should know whom you

661
00:31:55,653 --> 00:31:59,933
Speaker 14: do deal and what to deal exactly, what is the protocols?

662
00:32:00,013 --> 00:32:00,893
Speaker 14: You should know that.

663
00:32:02,533 --> 00:32:07,773
Speaker 3: In terms of sorry, carry on navin well in terms

664
00:32:07,773 --> 00:32:10,453
Speaker 3: of in terms of the big trading partners that India

665
00:32:10,573 --> 00:32:13,493
Speaker 3: currently trade with, who are they do you know?

666
00:32:14,533 --> 00:32:19,013
Speaker 14: Oh see it's a it's a kind of a secret.

667
00:32:19,093 --> 00:32:21,573
Speaker 14: So many cricketers they have a big business deals between

668
00:32:21,613 --> 00:32:25,133
Speaker 14: them here and there, Indian crickets, most of them hype

669
00:32:25,213 --> 00:32:28,013
Speaker 14: and superstars and the existing it and superstars in the

670
00:32:28,573 --> 00:32:33,093
Speaker 14: New Zealand they have their own saying off business links,

671
00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:36,413
Speaker 14: you know, explording a lot of meat, water and Kiwi

672
00:32:36,493 --> 00:32:41,733
Speaker 14: food apples, you know, New Zealand, Lamb. It's a lot

673
00:32:41,773 --> 00:32:43,573
Speaker 14: of opportunities and.

674
00:32:43,493 --> 00:32:45,373
Speaker 2: What would you say would be if there if there

675
00:32:45,453 --> 00:32:49,133
Speaker 2: was one major easquette or you know, sort of difference

676
00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:52,053
Speaker 2: when it comes to business in India as opposed to

677
00:32:52,093 --> 00:32:54,693
Speaker 2: business in New Zealand. Is is it one one tip

678
00:32:54,733 --> 00:32:57,893
Speaker 2: that you'd give for people that were we're trying to

679
00:32:58,853 --> 00:33:03,973
Speaker 2: create a business relationship with someone in India, So finding.

680
00:33:03,573 --> 00:33:08,853
Speaker 14: It is like finding a person here or there as

681
00:33:08,893 --> 00:33:11,813
Speaker 14: a bridge and the finding the provide people to deal

682
00:33:11,853 --> 00:33:12,813
Speaker 14: over there and here.

683
00:33:13,333 --> 00:33:15,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you so much Narvin, for you

684
00:33:15,973 --> 00:33:16,933
Speaker 2: to appreciate it.

685
00:33:17,013 --> 00:33:19,733
Speaker 3: So Pinewood, they love our pinewood at the moment, by

686
00:33:19,733 --> 00:33:22,093
Speaker 3: the sounds of it that they was at the process Timber,

687
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:25,213
Speaker 3: I think Narvin said that it was better to export

688
00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,213
Speaker 3: our pine over to India than it was for them

689
00:33:27,253 --> 00:33:27,893
Speaker 3: to process it.

690
00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:33,133
Speaker 2: Well, there's huge. He was also mentioning apples, so they've

691
00:33:33,133 --> 00:33:35,413
Speaker 2: got quite big tariffs on our apple imports at the moment.

692
00:33:35,493 --> 00:33:37,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, get rid of those sweats.

693
00:33:37,093 --> 00:33:38,213
Speaker 2: Let's get some apples over there here.

694
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Speaker 5: Ca.

695
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Speaker 3: Oh, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

696
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Speaker 3: call love to hear your experiences or thoughts about doing

697
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Speaker 3: business in India. Nine to ninety two is the text number.

698
00:33:48,213 --> 00:33:49,453
Speaker 3: It is twelve to two.

699
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Speaker 1: Matties Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh eight hundred

700
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. Matt and Taylor afternoons with the

701
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Speaker 1: Volvo XC ninety ticking every box a seamless experience, awaits

702
00:34:03,413 --> 00:34:04,253
Speaker 1: news talks.

703
00:34:04,093 --> 00:34:07,693
Speaker 3: EDB news talks. They'd be very good afternoon, and we're

704
00:34:07,693 --> 00:34:10,253
Speaker 3: talking about doing business in India on the back of

705
00:34:10,293 --> 00:34:14,372
Speaker 3: the trade delegation heading to the subcontinents in five days time,

706
00:34:14,893 --> 00:34:16,813
Speaker 3: led by a Prime Minister of course, and he's got

707
00:34:16,853 --> 00:34:17,613
Speaker 3: Ross Taylor with him.

708
00:34:17,773 --> 00:34:22,253
Speaker 2: Yes. So if we get more business going with India

709
00:34:22,293 --> 00:34:24,653
Speaker 2: and we get access to that market, how do we

710
00:34:24,693 --> 00:34:27,213
Speaker 2: actually go about it? What are the differences between doing

711
00:34:27,213 --> 00:34:30,933
Speaker 2: business in New Zealand and doing businesses business in India?

712
00:34:31,093 --> 00:34:33,292
Speaker 3: Yep, Karam, how.

713
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Speaker 4: Are you good?

714
00:34:34,853 --> 00:34:35,053
Speaker 12: Good?

715
00:34:35,093 --> 00:34:35,453
Speaker 8: Thank you?

716
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:37,732
Speaker 3: How are you going very good? Now you've been here

717
00:34:37,733 --> 00:34:40,813
Speaker 3: for twenty years? But what's your take on doing business

718
00:34:40,893 --> 00:34:43,573
Speaker 3: in India and whether we can get a foothold in

719
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Speaker 3: the country.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's possible. I think it's the high

721
00:34:48,373 --> 00:34:51,413
Speaker 9: value you know, items like like I travel you know

722
00:34:51,493 --> 00:34:53,453
Speaker 9: quite a lot too, you know, like other parts of

723
00:34:53,493 --> 00:34:57,533
Speaker 9: Asia like Thailand for example, you know, or you've got

724
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Speaker 9: to the Middle East like Dubai. So you see a

725
00:34:59,533 --> 00:35:03,453
Speaker 9: lot of meat, you know, like lamb and whatever. You

726
00:35:03,533 --> 00:35:06,093
Speaker 9: see a lot of new Zealand. You know, Australian meat

727
00:35:06,133 --> 00:35:11,093
Speaker 9: over there. Looking in the meat itself, similar to Thailand.

728
00:35:11,173 --> 00:35:15,373
Speaker 9: It's not a very good quality the domestic ones, right,

729
00:35:15,853 --> 00:35:19,413
Speaker 9: So I think, yeah, I mean, we can't penetrate into

730
00:35:19,653 --> 00:35:22,973
Speaker 9: entire Indian market. It will be you know, like say,

731
00:35:23,053 --> 00:35:25,973
Speaker 9: you know, the like extensive like high end sort of

732
00:35:26,053 --> 00:35:29,173
Speaker 9: dining sort of places and things like that, so it

733
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Speaker 9: would be a targeted Yeah. I mean, kivy fruit is

734
00:35:32,813 --> 00:35:35,333
Speaker 9: everywhere in India, you know, it's all over the world now,

735
00:35:35,373 --> 00:35:38,733
Speaker 9: so kiv we've already done it with kiv fruit. But

736
00:35:38,773 --> 00:35:42,133
Speaker 9: I think meat would be a very high even though

737
00:35:42,173 --> 00:35:43,853
Speaker 9: Indian like, you know, a lot of people think it's

738
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Speaker 9: like full of veget areas or whatever.

739
00:35:45,733 --> 00:35:45,893
Speaker 13: You know.

740
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Speaker 9: I come from Bangalore, so you know, I know, you

741
00:35:49,373 --> 00:35:52,373
Speaker 9: guys have been talking about Bangalora and all that, so

742
00:35:52,413 --> 00:35:55,413
Speaker 9: it's a yeah. I mean, in the South, we're not

743
00:35:55,573 --> 00:35:58,252
Speaker 9: really much into the drinking culture. Like in the north,

744
00:35:58,293 --> 00:36:01,293
Speaker 9: it's more common because it gets colder up there and

745
00:36:01,333 --> 00:36:04,893
Speaker 9: you know, but in the south, even though it's like hot,

746
00:36:05,053 --> 00:36:07,173
Speaker 9: black people are not even into like drinking beer and

747
00:36:07,213 --> 00:36:11,133
Speaker 9: things like that, you know, not much. So I don't

748
00:36:11,173 --> 00:36:14,053
Speaker 9: know about alcohol if it would really work.

749
00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:19,493
Speaker 2: But is it much wine drunken India?

750
00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:21,853
Speaker 9: Not where I come from, Like in the south and

751
00:36:21,973 --> 00:36:24,933
Speaker 9: in Bangalore, it's not very common. Like you know, it's

752
00:36:25,733 --> 00:36:28,093
Speaker 9: seems to be more common up north, like you know,

753
00:36:28,293 --> 00:36:31,373
Speaker 9: the more you go towards Delhi and you know, all

754
00:36:31,413 --> 00:36:34,573
Speaker 9: those kind of places. But in the South it's not

755
00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:37,053
Speaker 9: common at all. And even in business meetings and things

756
00:36:37,133 --> 00:36:40,133
Speaker 9: like that, I don't think it would really be appropriate

757
00:36:40,213 --> 00:36:42,453
Speaker 9: to you know, sug style, let's just go out for

758
00:36:42,493 --> 00:36:43,453
Speaker 9: a drink sort of thing.

759
00:36:43,533 --> 00:36:45,413
Speaker 2: You know, how often do you get back over there?

760
00:36:45,533 --> 00:36:47,533
Speaker 2: And how much is it changing? So you've been here

761
00:36:47,533 --> 00:36:49,253
Speaker 2: for twenty years, so how much has it changed in

762
00:36:49,253 --> 00:36:51,773
Speaker 2: that twenty years? Is it becoming more effulent? Is there

763
00:36:51,813 --> 00:36:54,373
Speaker 2: more business opportunities that you can see?

764
00:36:54,853 --> 00:36:55,013
Speaker 12: Oh?

765
00:36:55,093 --> 00:36:57,853
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, I mean even after COVID. So this is

766
00:36:57,853 --> 00:37:00,293
Speaker 9: the interesting thing. After COVID, I went just and had

767
00:37:00,333 --> 00:37:03,093
Speaker 9: a look and it was just just transformed, you know,

768
00:37:03,293 --> 00:37:05,613
Speaker 9: like you know, we all know what happened and during

769
00:37:05,653 --> 00:37:08,533
Speaker 9: COVID in India, and I was really curious as like, okay,

770
00:37:08,573 --> 00:37:09,933
Speaker 9: let's go and have a look. And just after a

771
00:37:09,973 --> 00:37:13,253
Speaker 9: year or two, there were so many businesses opening everywhere,

772
00:37:13,253 --> 00:37:17,213
Speaker 9: and it was just absolutely amazing. And again I'm not

773
00:37:17,373 --> 00:37:20,013
Speaker 9: being biased. I went to Thailand and Dubai and all

774
00:37:20,053 --> 00:37:23,133
Speaker 9: those places after COVID they were still struggling, you know,

775
00:37:23,173 --> 00:37:25,413
Speaker 9: They're not getting the same number of tourists and a

776
00:37:25,413 --> 00:37:29,053
Speaker 9: lot of businesses were shut down. But India, for some reason,

777
00:37:29,173 --> 00:37:34,213
Speaker 9: it just like absolutely transformed. You know, they've they've faced

778
00:37:34,253 --> 00:37:36,373
Speaker 9: it head on and I don't know whatever they did,

779
00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:41,053
Speaker 9: it just it's just come out really well after the pandemic.

780
00:37:41,093 --> 00:37:44,933
Speaker 9: And there's not many countries that have, you know, I

781
00:37:44,973 --> 00:37:49,172
Speaker 9: mean even China is struggling, you know, So I mean,

782
00:37:49,213 --> 00:37:51,172
Speaker 9: if we can do it business in China, I mean,

783
00:37:51,213 --> 00:37:53,493
Speaker 9: India should be easier, to be honest, because of the

784
00:37:53,893 --> 00:37:57,573
Speaker 9: English and cricket and you know, and you know there's

785
00:37:57,613 --> 00:38:00,333
Speaker 9: lots of common ground, you know, not being part of

786
00:38:00,493 --> 00:38:02,613
Speaker 9: kind of the Commonwealth and things like that.

787
00:38:03,853 --> 00:38:07,413
Speaker 3: So yeah, common ground, Yeah, I mean certainly, you know,

788
00:38:07,613 --> 00:38:10,013
Speaker 3: I think we most of us would agree that if

789
00:38:10,053 --> 00:38:12,093
Speaker 3: we can get some sort of free trade deal or

790
00:38:12,173 --> 00:38:15,133
Speaker 3: tap more into that market, that is hugely beneficial for

791
00:38:15,213 --> 00:38:17,853
Speaker 3: New Zealand. But it's how we do that. And as

792
00:38:17,853 --> 00:38:20,772
Speaker 3: you say, India as fast developing, if we can get

793
00:38:20,773 --> 00:38:23,293
Speaker 3: in on the ground floor and and join up with

794
00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:26,893
Speaker 3: those those trade agreements. Then surely that is good for

795
00:38:26,933 --> 00:38:27,172
Speaker 3: all them.

796
00:38:27,173 --> 00:38:28,853
Speaker 2: I mean a good start would be direct flights to

797
00:38:28,893 --> 00:38:32,133
Speaker 2: India because it's actually you'll back me up on this

798
00:38:32,213 --> 00:38:35,053
Speaker 2: is actually quite a punishing route to get to India,

799
00:38:35,133 --> 00:38:35,493
Speaker 2: isn't it.

800
00:38:37,893 --> 00:38:38,093
Speaker 9: Yeah?

801
00:38:38,173 --> 00:38:38,853
Speaker 7: Exactly? Oh?

802
00:38:38,893 --> 00:38:40,693
Speaker 3: Sorry, am I still yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a

803
00:38:40,733 --> 00:38:41,213
Speaker 3: question for you.

804
00:38:42,293 --> 00:38:45,093
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, I mean, I mean I'm personally I'm not

805
00:38:45,133 --> 00:38:47,333
Speaker 9: a very big fan of be on long flights. I'd

806
00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:49,172
Speaker 9: still break up my trip, but yet it would be

807
00:38:49,653 --> 00:38:51,333
Speaker 9: great to have direct flights.

808
00:38:52,693 --> 00:38:52,893
Speaker 15: You know.

809
00:38:53,213 --> 00:38:55,173
Speaker 9: I think it's coming, like you know, they've been talking

810
00:38:55,213 --> 00:38:57,373
Speaker 9: about it. Yeah, it's something happened.

811
00:38:57,453 --> 00:38:59,333
Speaker 2: You know, there's been talking about it for a while,

812
00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:01,373
Speaker 2: haven't they. But yeah, they can't don't have the trains

813
00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:01,732
Speaker 2: for it.

814
00:39:02,693 --> 00:39:05,212
Speaker 9: Yeah, or here India probably would, you know, because they're

815
00:39:05,493 --> 00:39:10,093
Speaker 9: pretty much goes to Australia. So yeah, I mean, there's

816
00:39:10,093 --> 00:39:11,933
Speaker 9: there's lots of options. And I don't know what I mean.

817
00:39:12,333 --> 00:39:14,693
Speaker 9: With China, we kind of got on really early, like

818
00:39:14,733 --> 00:39:16,413
Speaker 9: we were one of the first countries to do it,

819
00:39:16,853 --> 00:39:20,133
Speaker 9: so I'm really surprised and the resistance could be coming

820
00:39:20,173 --> 00:39:22,293
Speaker 9: from India side as well as we always know, like

821
00:39:22,373 --> 00:39:25,973
Speaker 9: Farmer's Giry all of that. There's lots of issues, but

822
00:39:26,013 --> 00:39:28,013
Speaker 9: I'm sure we can, you know, still make a deal.

823
00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:32,093
Speaker 9: You know, there's there's lots of opportunities because Bollywood is

824
00:39:32,133 --> 00:39:36,133
Speaker 9: really big, you know, and like Indian film industry has

825
00:39:36,173 --> 00:39:39,533
Speaker 9: like they've always come to New Zealand and they've shot

826
00:39:39,573 --> 00:39:41,533
Speaker 9: a lot of movies here, you know, and a lot

827
00:39:41,533 --> 00:39:42,933
Speaker 9: of Kiwis are not aware of it.

828
00:39:43,333 --> 00:39:45,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for your call, carm Yeah,

829
00:39:45,373 --> 00:39:47,093
Speaker 2: very Bollywood films being shot here.

830
00:39:47,013 --> 00:39:49,973
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yep. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

831
00:39:50,053 --> 00:39:51,933
Speaker 3: number of call. We're going to carry this on after

832
00:39:51,973 --> 00:39:53,733
Speaker 3: two o'clock because there's a lot of people who want

833
00:39:53,773 --> 00:39:55,973
Speaker 3: to have chat about this. But keen to hear your thoughts.

834
00:39:55,973 --> 00:39:58,692
Speaker 3: Have you done business in India? Should we be trying

835
00:39:58,693 --> 00:40:01,652
Speaker 3: to tamp into that market? More love to hear from you, newss.

836
00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:04,973
Speaker 4: Next talking with you all afternoon.

837
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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with the ul

838
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Speaker 1: X ninety used dog Zib.

839
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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. Six past two. Well,

840
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:17,413
Speaker 3: so many people wanted to have a chat about doing

841
00:40:17,413 --> 00:40:20,093
Speaker 3: business in India that we had no choice but to

842
00:40:20,133 --> 00:40:22,653
Speaker 3: carry it on. It's been a great discussion, full.

843
00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:25,053
Speaker 2: Lines in an exploding text machine.

844
00:40:25,093 --> 00:40:27,853
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but keen to hear from you, oh, eight hundred

845
00:40:27,853 --> 00:40:30,453
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. If you can't get through, keep trying.

846
00:40:30,533 --> 00:40:32,253
Speaker 3: But a heck of a lot of texts have come

847
00:40:32,293 --> 00:40:35,453
Speaker 3: through on nine two ninety two like this one. Guys.

848
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:39,093
Speaker 3: It is a massive market worth a considerable middle class,

849
00:40:39,453 --> 00:40:43,053
Speaker 3: very very competitive and a lot of competition for everything.

850
00:40:43,133 --> 00:40:44,013
Speaker 3: We've got to be there.

851
00:40:44,773 --> 00:40:48,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's an interesting one. I'll actually I've actually

852
00:40:48,253 --> 00:40:51,093
Speaker 2: got this article from BBC that I'll read a little

853
00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,453
Speaker 2: bit about that huge market thing. Why went we there

854
00:40:53,533 --> 00:40:56,293
Speaker 2: years ago? Says this text on nine two nine two.

855
00:40:56,453 --> 00:40:58,613
Speaker 2: India only wants one thing from New Zealand, that is

856
00:40:58,653 --> 00:41:00,692
Speaker 2: our residential property, says Rob Yep.

857
00:41:01,173 --> 00:41:03,692
Speaker 3: Now, just to that previous text, why went we there?

858
00:41:03,773 --> 00:41:04,212
Speaker 3: Years ago?

859
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:04,732
Speaker 10: So?

860
00:41:05,013 --> 00:41:08,333
Speaker 3: New Zealand and India previously entered into free trade agreenment

861
00:41:08,493 --> 00:41:13,453
Speaker 3: negotiations in April twenty ten. Those negotiations fell apart, so

862
00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:16,692
Speaker 3: the last round of negotiations, the tenth round, occurred in

863
00:41:16,733 --> 00:41:20,493
Speaker 3: Delhi in twenty fifteen, and at this stage there are

864
00:41:20,573 --> 00:41:24,493
Speaker 3: still no formal negotiations taking place until now, so Christopher

865
00:41:24,573 --> 00:41:26,933
Speaker 3: lux and our Prime minister is picking that back up

866
00:41:26,973 --> 00:41:29,973
Speaker 3: when he meets with Prime Minister Modi twenty fifteen.

867
00:41:30,693 --> 00:41:33,652
Speaker 2: So we've let it slip for ten years. Yeah, that

868
00:41:33,893 --> 00:41:34,813
Speaker 2: is a decade.

869
00:41:35,213 --> 00:41:38,053
Speaker 3: It's a long time to just let things sit idle

870
00:41:38,373 --> 00:41:40,533
Speaker 3: and clearly with the size of that market, and as

871
00:41:40,573 --> 00:41:44,373
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister said, he is disappointed that our export

872
00:41:44,413 --> 00:41:47,773
Speaker 3: to India only accounts for one point five percent. That

873
00:41:47,933 --> 00:41:48,973
Speaker 3: is a missed opportunity.

874
00:41:49,453 --> 00:41:51,652
Speaker 2: Good on Christopher Luxem's trying, but he has zero chance

875
00:41:51,653 --> 00:41:55,533
Speaker 2: of securing a trade agreement this time round. Dairy industry

876
00:41:55,573 --> 00:41:58,053
Speaker 2: is sticking point as local farmers there will resist us

877
00:41:58,093 --> 00:42:01,732
Speaker 2: pushing our product into their country. Craig, Yeah, I mean,

878
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:03,613
Speaker 2: but last thing we might not get at this time.

879
00:42:03,613 --> 00:42:05,613
Speaker 2: But we've got to keep working on it. But yeah,

880
00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:08,533
Speaker 2: I mean, Deary, I imagine Dariy will be out of

881
00:42:08,533 --> 00:42:09,453
Speaker 2: it no matter what if we do.

882
00:42:09,773 --> 00:42:12,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think there's always things off the table

883
00:42:12,093 --> 00:42:12,613
Speaker 3: with free trade.

884
00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:14,693
Speaker 2: A greatment that's always off the table with New Zealand.

885
00:42:14,773 --> 00:42:17,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can just roll that outcross that out of

886
00:42:17,133 --> 00:42:18,933
Speaker 3: the agreed and start at that.

887
00:42:18,973 --> 00:42:21,613
Speaker 2: Point better quality and we can make a lot of

888
00:42:21,613 --> 00:42:26,773
Speaker 2: it very efficiently and a much more environmentally friendly manner

889
00:42:26,773 --> 00:42:29,652
Speaker 2: than anyone else in the country. It's grass fed, the

890
00:42:29,693 --> 00:42:31,773
Speaker 2: cows aren't inside all the time, so you know, we

891
00:42:32,213 --> 00:42:35,213
Speaker 2: just kick ass and dairy. So it's a compliment that

892
00:42:35,213 --> 00:42:38,413
Speaker 2: they don't want us exactly, but people keep on sticking

893
00:42:38,413 --> 00:42:39,973
Speaker 2: on our dairy unfortunate though.

894
00:42:40,053 --> 00:42:42,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, take pride in that, even though it is very

895
00:42:42,173 --> 00:42:44,613
Speaker 3: annoying for us and for our dairy farmers.

896
00:42:44,973 --> 00:42:47,692
Speaker 2: Bollywood, we need to get Bollywood movies shot here and

897
00:42:47,813 --> 00:42:51,013
Speaker 2: do product placement in the movies like WHATK Chocolates? Yeah,

898
00:42:51,093 --> 00:42:54,053
Speaker 2: good call, I mean absolutely get some Bollywood movies shot

899
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:54,453
Speaker 2: over here.

900
00:42:54,613 --> 00:42:57,292
Speaker 3: Huge industry yep. So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

901
00:42:57,373 --> 00:42:59,933
Speaker 3: is the number to call. NICKI good afternoon to you.

902
00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:03,533
Speaker 3: Hi there, Hell, are you very good? What's your take

903
00:43:03,573 --> 00:43:04,893
Speaker 3: on doing business in India?

904
00:43:06,293 --> 00:43:10,573
Speaker 16: Well, my appearance Ran moved to India in the late

905
00:43:10,653 --> 00:43:17,093
Speaker 16: nineteen nineties through Fletcher Building and randomly they foresaw i

906
00:43:17,093 --> 00:43:20,293
Speaker 16: think the technology boom that was going to happen up there,

907
00:43:20,413 --> 00:43:24,693
Speaker 16: and so they moved into Bangalore and set up concrete plants,

908
00:43:25,213 --> 00:43:29,413
Speaker 16: basically building out the technology parks up there. So I've

909
00:43:29,453 --> 00:43:31,653
Speaker 16: been sort of going up and back to India for

910
00:43:31,693 --> 00:43:36,453
Speaker 16: the last twenty five years and had seen enormous change

911
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:38,973
Speaker 16: and have been banging on for a long time that

912
00:43:39,213 --> 00:43:43,253
Speaker 16: this is where our future trading's got to be. You

913
00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:50,253
Speaker 16: can't underestimate the absolute size of the population. And I

914
00:43:50,253 --> 00:43:52,413
Speaker 16: think one of the biggest things I've noticed over the

915
00:43:52,453 --> 00:43:56,652
Speaker 16: twenty years is that off the back of the technology industry,

916
00:43:57,133 --> 00:44:02,053
Speaker 16: the Indians are very, very educated. They all children basically

917
00:44:02,093 --> 00:44:05,013
Speaker 16: go to school six days a week. They're very focused

918
00:44:05,533 --> 00:44:09,373
Speaker 16: on education and there's a massive or wealth up there

919
00:44:09,453 --> 00:44:13,533
Speaker 16: now that's been built off that, and they love now

920
00:44:13,573 --> 00:44:17,493
Speaker 16: they're connected through technology. Even people I was up in

921
00:44:17,693 --> 00:44:21,772
Speaker 16: Mumbai last week, even people in the slums have got

922
00:44:21,773 --> 00:44:24,692
Speaker 16: cell phones, so they're connected to the world. They want

923
00:44:24,733 --> 00:44:30,373
Speaker 16: the products, they love kiweeds, and actually they're traveling a

924
00:44:30,373 --> 00:44:34,693
Speaker 16: lot more around the world. So you know, alongside the

925
00:44:34,773 --> 00:44:37,853
Speaker 16: trade deal, I think if the New Zealand can get

926
00:44:37,853 --> 00:44:41,613
Speaker 16: some direct flights up there, there's massive bonuses for they

927
00:44:41,773 --> 00:44:45,013
Speaker 16: getting tourism up and back into New Zealand.

928
00:44:45,373 --> 00:44:47,813
Speaker 3: Was that quite a bad yeah, sorry to jump in there, Nikki.

929
00:44:47,933 --> 00:44:49,813
Speaker 3: Was that quite a big thing for your parents to

930
00:44:49,933 --> 00:44:52,773
Speaker 3: go over to India to try and set up business

931
00:44:52,813 --> 00:44:54,573
Speaker 3: that must have been you know, there must have been

932
00:44:54,573 --> 00:44:55,772
Speaker 3: some challenges in front of them.

933
00:44:56,373 --> 00:44:59,253
Speaker 16: Oh, it was the wild West in the late nineties.

934
00:44:59,453 --> 00:45:03,212
Speaker 16: Everyone thought they were absolutely nuts for dying up there.

935
00:45:04,373 --> 00:45:06,213
Speaker 16: In fact, I was the only person out of all

936
00:45:06,293 --> 00:45:09,413
Speaker 16: their family and friends that ever went to visit. It

937
00:45:09,613 --> 00:45:13,293
Speaker 16: was wild I remember, you know, Dad telling stories about

938
00:45:13,573 --> 00:45:16,813
Speaker 16: I mean, back in those days, you would literally have

939
00:45:16,853 --> 00:45:19,013
Speaker 16: to bribe people to get stuff done. It was just

940
00:45:19,173 --> 00:45:24,533
Speaker 16: how business was done back then. But you know, they

941
00:45:24,653 --> 00:45:29,693
Speaker 16: built relationships the cricket Even back then, Dad, you know,

942
00:45:29,773 --> 00:45:32,333
Speaker 16: would go and sit in his young cricket team when

943
00:45:32,333 --> 00:45:37,333
Speaker 16: they were in Bangalore, and you know, build those relationships.

944
00:45:37,333 --> 00:45:43,213
Speaker 16: You're very social people. Funnily enough, flecking out talking about

945
00:45:43,213 --> 00:45:46,093
Speaker 16: the guy that was talking about alcohol up there. I

946
00:45:46,253 --> 00:45:49,413
Speaker 16: just took a group of nine girlfriends up who are

947
00:45:49,493 --> 00:45:51,933
Speaker 16: all first time is and sort of as a bit

948
00:45:51,973 --> 00:45:56,973
Speaker 16: of a tour. And you know, twenty years ago when

949
00:45:57,013 --> 00:46:01,333
Speaker 16: mum lived there, she couldn't get wine. Basically it was impossible. Now,

950
00:46:01,773 --> 00:46:05,453
Speaker 16: you know, most restaurants have got small amount of wine.

951
00:46:05,493 --> 00:46:09,813
Speaker 16: It's hugely expensive, massive taxes, but there's a massive market

952
00:46:10,253 --> 00:46:14,453
Speaker 16: up there. They are starting to drink more wine and

953
00:46:15,173 --> 00:46:19,373
Speaker 16: get beyond the traditional just Kingfisher or whiskey. They love spirits,

954
00:46:19,453 --> 00:46:22,933
Speaker 16: but that whole market is massive. If we can tappen

955
00:46:23,293 --> 00:46:27,893
Speaker 16: even a little bit. Yeah, it's insane. To give you

956
00:46:27,893 --> 00:46:31,493
Speaker 16: a perspective of like Mumbai, or went to Queen Victory

957
00:46:31,613 --> 00:46:35,093
Speaker 16: Station last week, which is the main train station. They

958
00:46:35,373 --> 00:46:39,253
Speaker 16: have ten million people come through that station every single day,

959
00:46:39,493 --> 00:46:39,853
Speaker 16: come and to.

960
00:46:39,893 --> 00:46:41,053
Speaker 2: Work twice the population.

961
00:46:42,413 --> 00:46:46,692
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's it's insane the amounts people. But they are consumers.

962
00:46:46,813 --> 00:46:49,813
Speaker 16: They love stuff. I think we need to go for

963
00:46:49,933 --> 00:46:54,053
Speaker 16: it as hard as we can. Very probably is going

964
00:46:54,093 --> 00:46:56,373
Speaker 16: to have to wait. But having said that, they don't

965
00:46:56,813 --> 00:46:59,853
Speaker 16: drink a lot of cow's milk, the Hindos, so they

966
00:47:00,013 --> 00:47:03,533
Speaker 16: tend to have buffalo milk. So we have to think,

967
00:47:03,733 --> 00:47:05,573
Speaker 16: you know, strategically through there.

968
00:47:05,773 --> 00:47:10,333
Speaker 17: But your parents must have if you don't mind me asking,

969
00:47:10,453 --> 00:47:12,973
Speaker 17: They must have done pretty well getting into concrete over

970
00:47:13,013 --> 00:47:16,373
Speaker 17: the cement over there in the late nineties, because you

971
00:47:16,373 --> 00:47:20,813
Speaker 17: know famous famous concrete billionaires in India.

972
00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:25,093
Speaker 16: Well, yes, although it was fle Dad was working for

973
00:47:25,173 --> 00:47:29,533
Speaker 16: Fleas and so they had I don't know how it

974
00:47:29,573 --> 00:47:35,493
Speaker 16: came about, but Fletcher's decided to go into Fiji, South America.

975
00:47:36,253 --> 00:47:39,813
Speaker 16: I think so Peru and India, and as it turned out,

976
00:47:40,133 --> 00:47:43,253
Speaker 16: mum dirting it up in India. They ended up selling

977
00:47:43,533 --> 00:47:47,413
Speaker 16: out in the long run up there, but I think

978
00:47:47,453 --> 00:47:49,652
Speaker 16: they did get you know, FIUs did pretty well out

979
00:47:49,693 --> 00:47:52,253
Speaker 16: of it at the time. But it was interesting they

980
00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:54,212
Speaker 16: had that vision right back then.

981
00:47:54,653 --> 00:47:57,333
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for our calling, Nicky. Great

982
00:47:57,373 --> 00:48:01,373
Speaker 2: to hear that, great insights. Yeah, those Indian cement billionaires,

983
00:48:01,973 --> 00:48:05,133
Speaker 2: Danni and Burla, they're going at it. They've been going

984
00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:06,413
Speaker 2: at it for a while on.

985
00:48:06,813 --> 00:48:08,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have sold a lot of comm crete

986
00:48:08,773 --> 00:48:11,973
Speaker 3: over the past what thirty five years, because India has

987
00:48:12,013 --> 00:48:15,253
Speaker 3: absolutely exploded in terms of development. Oh, eight hundred eighty

988
00:48:15,373 --> 00:48:17,573
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety

989
00:48:17,573 --> 00:48:20,853
Speaker 3: two is the text number. It is quarter past two.

990
00:48:21,013 --> 00:48:22,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, and coming up next, I want to tell you

991
00:48:22,813 --> 00:48:24,893
Speaker 2: exactly how many because we say this one point four

992
00:48:24,933 --> 00:48:28,453
Speaker 2: billion people in India, but how many of them have

993
00:48:28,493 --> 00:48:30,413
Speaker 2: actually got any money to spend for us to sell

994
00:48:30,453 --> 00:48:32,493
Speaker 2: stuff too? All right, I've got the figures.

995
00:48:32,533 --> 00:48:34,173
Speaker 3: All right, this is going to be gods that is

996
00:48:34,213 --> 00:48:36,893
Speaker 3: coming up quarter past two.

997
00:48:37,013 --> 00:48:40,853
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk, Matt and Taylor Afternoon

998
00:48:41,053 --> 00:48:45,013
Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

999
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:48,133
Speaker 4: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talk, say'd be.

1000
00:48:49,733 --> 00:48:52,453
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. What is it like doing business in India?

1001
00:48:52,493 --> 00:48:54,733
Speaker 3: That's the question we've asked on the bank of the

1002
00:48:54,813 --> 00:48:58,133
Speaker 3: Prime Minister and a delegation of business people. And it

1003
00:48:58,413 --> 00:49:01,652
Speaker 3: appears some sports people as well heading to India on

1004
00:49:01,693 --> 00:49:04,292
Speaker 3: Saturday to try and secure a free trade deal.

1005
00:49:04,453 --> 00:49:05,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Ros Taylor's going over man.

1006
00:49:06,013 --> 00:49:06,172
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1007
00:49:06,213 --> 00:49:08,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got great cricket Bos Taylor. He's gonna make

1008
00:49:08,253 --> 00:49:08,893
Speaker 3: a difference.

1009
00:49:09,053 --> 00:49:11,293
Speaker 2: This is interesting, you know, keep talking about India being

1010
00:49:11,453 --> 00:49:13,933
Speaker 2: a market of one point four billion, and this from

1011
00:49:13,933 --> 00:49:17,133
Speaker 2: the BBC last week. India is home to one point

1012
00:49:17,133 --> 00:49:19,652
Speaker 2: four billion people, but around a billion lack money to

1013
00:49:19,693 --> 00:49:23,653
Speaker 2: spend on any discretionary goods or services. New report estimates

1014
00:49:23,653 --> 00:49:27,013
Speaker 2: the country's consuming class. Effectively, the potential market for startups

1015
00:49:27,053 --> 00:49:29,133
Speaker 2: or business owners is only about as big as Mexico

1016
00:49:29,333 --> 00:49:32,373
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million people, according to report by

1017
00:49:32,453 --> 00:49:35,813
Speaker 2: bloom Ventures, a venture capital firm. Another three hundred million

1018
00:49:35,853 --> 00:49:40,333
Speaker 2: are emerging or aspirant customers, but they are reluctant spenders

1019
00:49:40,373 --> 00:49:43,013
Speaker 2: who have only just begun to open their purse strings

1020
00:49:43,093 --> 00:49:45,493
Speaker 2: as a click of a button. Digital payments make it

1021
00:49:45,893 --> 00:49:49,453
Speaker 2: easier to transact, So there you go. I mean, there

1022
00:49:49,493 --> 00:49:52,172
Speaker 2: is one point four billion people, but according to this

1023
00:49:52,373 --> 00:49:54,053
Speaker 2: one billion them don't have the money to spend.

1024
00:49:55,053 --> 00:49:58,093
Speaker 3: But that still leaves potentially three hundred million that have

1025
00:49:58,173 --> 00:50:00,333
Speaker 3: got a bit of discretionary spend.

1026
00:50:00,373 --> 00:50:02,533
Speaker 2: Well, according to this one hundred and forty million people.

1027
00:50:02,693 --> 00:50:04,333
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but you don't turn your nose up to

1028
00:50:04,333 --> 00:50:06,533
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million people. No, how many times

1029
00:50:06,533 --> 00:50:07,733
Speaker 2: a population in New Zealand?

1030
00:50:07,773 --> 00:50:08,212
Speaker 3: Is that about?

1031
00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:08,732
Speaker 7: You know?

1032
00:50:09,053 --> 00:50:11,733
Speaker 3: Fifty Henry, how are here this afternight?

1033
00:50:12,693 --> 00:50:15,293
Speaker 8: Thank Jordan, I'm really good. He I first went in

1034
00:50:15,333 --> 00:50:18,172
Speaker 8: there forty years ago and I've been considerately going going there.

1035
00:50:18,213 --> 00:50:21,293
Speaker 8: So while I wasn't doing economic and financial business, it's

1036
00:50:21,293 --> 00:50:24,493
Speaker 8: been involved in you know, actual multilectrol aid and diplomacy.

1037
00:50:25,173 --> 00:50:27,652
Speaker 8: So I kind of am often asked to give a

1038
00:50:27,693 --> 00:50:31,373
Speaker 8: description about the transition of India. The last said yes,

1039
00:50:31,413 --> 00:50:34,093
Speaker 8: but X wanted to write New Zealanders yep, because New

1040
00:50:34,173 --> 00:50:36,013
Speaker 8: Zealand's an unusual place. You know, we were gathered as

1041
00:50:36,093 --> 00:50:39,293
Speaker 8: having amongst the most corruptory judiciary and governments, and people

1042
00:50:39,293 --> 00:50:41,373
Speaker 8: think this country is corrupt, you need to go to

1043
00:50:41,813 --> 00:50:43,692
Speaker 8: a lot of the one hundred and fifty other Third Board

1044
00:50:43,693 --> 00:50:46,893
Speaker 8: developing countries as well as developed countries to see how

1045
00:50:47,013 --> 00:50:49,933
Speaker 8: clean as it is here. So you're always going to

1046
00:50:49,933 --> 00:50:53,053
Speaker 8: get corruption everywhere you go, but it's not the kind

1047
00:50:53,093 --> 00:50:55,373
Speaker 8: of corruption that we see on television. It's not kind

1048
00:50:55,373 --> 00:50:58,853
Speaker 8: of American style stuff. There's a slow level stuff. Things

1049
00:50:58,893 --> 00:51:01,732
Speaker 8: get done through backhands, big buildings to get done through

1050
00:51:01,733 --> 00:51:03,573
Speaker 8: all these shortcuts that happen. So that's the way the

1051
00:51:03,573 --> 00:51:07,692
Speaker 8: world really works. And we are in this incredible ecosystem

1052
00:51:07,693 --> 00:51:10,413
Speaker 8: that is New zeal We're moderate with the center of order.

1053
00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:13,373
Speaker 8: We're nice. No one hates us. When it gets to

1054
00:51:13,533 --> 00:51:16,733
Speaker 8: playing business. We're not seeing as thing as aggressive. But

1055
00:51:16,853 --> 00:51:19,773
Speaker 8: actually what we're really selling outside of the commodities, we're

1056
00:51:19,813 --> 00:51:23,253
Speaker 8: selling integrity. And that's what New Zealand sells, the kind

1057
00:51:23,293 --> 00:51:25,693
Speaker 8: of things we like to think about ourselves as. And

1058
00:51:25,733 --> 00:51:28,413
Speaker 8: so you can tell that India, I've watched it change

1059
00:51:28,573 --> 00:51:30,413
Speaker 8: and you can see and by the way, it's easy

1060
00:51:30,493 --> 00:51:33,133
Speaker 8: way to describe one in six humans of in India,

1061
00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:36,133
Speaker 8: and you're quite right. India is a third World developing

1062
00:51:36,133 --> 00:51:41,173
Speaker 8: country with poverty, deprivation, and opulence and wealth. But unlike

1063
00:51:41,253 --> 00:51:43,893
Speaker 8: anything anyone's ever going to and I say every New

1064
00:51:43,973 --> 00:51:46,732
Speaker 8: Zealander should go to India and going in an election

1065
00:51:46,853 --> 00:51:49,772
Speaker 8: year where it's crazy as and so all of these

1066
00:51:49,773 --> 00:51:51,973
Speaker 8: things make up So what it is about. It's not

1067
00:51:52,093 --> 00:51:55,093
Speaker 8: just the quality of our stuff. The market is being

1068
00:51:55,213 --> 00:51:57,693
Speaker 8: compared to us. And you know, I've been watching the

1069
00:51:57,693 --> 00:52:01,053
Speaker 8: barometers in India. So the barometers are when they started

1070
00:52:01,053 --> 00:52:02,973
Speaker 8: to put the airports in twenty years ago, they still

1071
00:52:03,013 --> 00:52:06,613
Speaker 8: have the outside toilets with holes in the floor. And

1072
00:52:07,173 --> 00:52:10,053
Speaker 8: interesting the other barometers they bought two hundred are Indi.

1073
00:52:10,053 --> 00:52:13,373
Speaker 8: You Bot two hundred and fifty wide body aircraft, the

1074
00:52:13,413 --> 00:52:16,013
Speaker 8: biggest purchase in the history of aviation a couple of

1075
00:52:16,053 --> 00:52:19,173
Speaker 8: years ago. They also make warships and they buy the

1076
00:52:19,373 --> 00:52:23,733
Speaker 8: armaments from both the Russians and the West the security

1077
00:52:23,733 --> 00:52:26,933
Speaker 8: of that area, So us going in there, our gift

1078
00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:29,853
Speaker 8: is what we do with New Zealanders. And yes they

1079
00:52:29,853 --> 00:52:31,893
Speaker 8: will try and get a sale across the line and

1080
00:52:31,933 --> 00:52:33,493
Speaker 8: all of those things, and we need to just make

1081
00:52:33,533 --> 00:52:36,252
Speaker 8: sure that that's what we're doing. And it's all about

1082
00:52:36,253 --> 00:52:41,013
Speaker 8: the relationship and key with the excellent at developing relationships.

1083
00:52:41,133 --> 00:52:43,973
Speaker 8: So the New Zealand psyche is what our commodity is Oh, that's.

1084
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:46,533
Speaker 3: Great, and integrity must be worth a lot in that market,

1085
00:52:46,573 --> 00:52:49,653
Speaker 3: well any market for that matter, but particularly a market

1086
00:52:49,693 --> 00:52:52,413
Speaker 3: like India. We can be trusted.

1087
00:52:52,453 --> 00:52:52,933
Speaker 10: That's what we do.

1088
00:52:53,453 --> 00:52:56,413
Speaker 8: We do well our high in commodities. But what we're

1089
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Speaker 8: really doing is we're honored compared to most other players

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00:52:59,053 --> 00:53:03,053
Speaker 8: in the market, including those in challenging economies and challenging

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Speaker 8: places like India, which is an incredible paradox.

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Speaker 2: I know what you're saying about elections over there. I

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00:53:07,453 --> 00:53:12,013
Speaker 2: was over in Bengaluru when the Kinnarctica elections were on,

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Speaker 2: you know, the province, and that it was insane the

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00:53:16,453 --> 00:53:20,973
Speaker 2: intensity of the coverage. It made Fox News, CNN, everything

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00:53:20,973 --> 00:53:25,133
Speaker 2: happened in America feel tame. A cricket game that were

1097
00:53:25,133 --> 00:53:27,373
Speaker 2: supposed to go to was had to be moved because

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00:53:27,413 --> 00:53:33,133
Speaker 2: there were protests and threats going on. It was in tense,

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Speaker 2: bad it.

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Speaker 8: Was so Tremode's job is to create better infrastructure in India.

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Speaker 8: That's that's what he's charged with doing. He's also charged

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Speaker 8: with keeping it calm. So in the last three elections

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00:53:44,453 --> 00:53:48,013
Speaker 8: that he's won since nineteen forty eight, less people have

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Speaker 8: died a month either side of the election. In the

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00:53:50,733 --> 00:53:54,373
Speaker 8: history of modern India in the last three elections. So

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Speaker 8: he's providing another calmness, right and also so that gives

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00:53:57,933 --> 00:54:00,813
Speaker 8: confidence to the West to go in and actually make

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00:54:00,853 --> 00:54:05,252
Speaker 8: other con concessions. His other job is to not Bombki's done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good, that's probably well those things, thank you, cool, Henry.

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Speaker 2: You talk about that wealth disparity and you know those

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00:54:13,133 --> 00:54:16,853
Speaker 2: things that you see, you know, one of the most

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00:54:16,893 --> 00:54:20,253
Speaker 2: stark things, one of the most shocking things in a

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00:54:20,293 --> 00:54:22,533
Speaker 2: way or just I guess metaphoric. I don't know what

1114
00:54:22,613 --> 00:54:25,013
Speaker 2: you call it, but it's it were just there was

1115
00:54:25,053 --> 00:54:28,813
Speaker 2: a car dealership selling Lamborghinis and then to get onto

1116
00:54:28,853 --> 00:54:31,573
Speaker 2: the street went over a grate that covered a sewer,

1117
00:54:31,893 --> 00:54:34,213
Speaker 2: so you had an open sort of sewer or drainage

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00:54:35,053 --> 00:54:37,732
Speaker 2: that the footpath was made out of with a bunch

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00:54:37,813 --> 00:54:41,733
Speaker 2: of metal. Very cool. But then there's a Lamborghini dealership,

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00:54:41,773 --> 00:54:44,813
Speaker 2: so you would drive that Lamborghini over that great out

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00:54:44,893 --> 00:54:47,613
Speaker 2: into the intense traffic. Yeah.

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00:54:47,653 --> 00:54:49,573
Speaker 3: It's quite a confronting enoughgy, isn't.

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Speaker 2: It's a juxtaposition. I'll tell you what. It's a juxtaposition

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Speaker 2: of wealth and poverty.

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Speaker 3: Right, Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. It is twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Past two, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty on used good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So you've been thinking about a new Volvo suv and a.

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00:55:13,933 --> 00:55:15,893
Speaker 2: Lot of you will say that's a bold choice in

1131
00:55:15,933 --> 00:55:17,133
Speaker 2: the crowded suv market.

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Speaker 3: Bear with me, Tyler, Well, can I just say that

1133
00:55:20,173 --> 00:55:22,733
Speaker 3: I've taken the Volvo XC ninety for a drive and

1134
00:55:22,773 --> 00:55:25,693
Speaker 3: I can honestly say why wouldn't you choose the Volvo

1135
00:55:25,973 --> 00:55:26,653
Speaker 3: XC ninety.

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00:55:26,813 --> 00:55:29,493
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, She's a spacious beast, worth seating for up

1137
00:55:29,533 --> 00:55:32,212
Speaker 2: to seven people, truckloads of room for luggage as well.

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00:55:32,533 --> 00:55:35,013
Speaker 3: Of course, being Volvo, the XC ninety is packed with

1139
00:55:35,213 --> 00:55:38,453
Speaker 3: Swedish no how and quality and comes fully loaded with

1140
00:55:38,533 --> 00:55:39,172
Speaker 3: the latest tech.

1141
00:55:39,573 --> 00:55:42,773
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, by that you mean Google Maps, Google Assistant

1142
00:55:42,973 --> 00:55:44,212
Speaker 2: and Google Play.

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00:55:44,373 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 3: You got it. The XC ninety's even got a panoramic roof,

1144
00:55:47,533 --> 00:55:50,733
Speaker 3: advanced air purifier and a head up display that changes

1145
00:55:50,813 --> 00:55:51,853
Speaker 3: the suitlight conditions.

1146
00:55:51,973 --> 00:55:55,533
Speaker 2: Basically, Tyler, you're saying the Volvo XC ninety is pretty.

1147
00:55:55,293 --> 00:55:59,533
Speaker 3: Smooth bang on, especially with their suspension system that constantly

1148
00:55:59,613 --> 00:56:02,253
Speaker 3: adjusts the ride height and shock absorbers.

1149
00:56:02,413 --> 00:56:04,373
Speaker 2: I reckon. You need to visit Volvo cars and see

1150
00:56:04,373 --> 00:56:08,133
Speaker 2: why the Volvo XC ninety is the suv for right now.

1151
00:56:09,813 --> 00:56:12,173
Speaker 4: News Talk Zibby and.

1152
00:56:12,333 --> 00:56:14,933
Speaker 3: We are talking about doing business in India on the

1153
00:56:15,013 --> 00:56:19,293
Speaker 3: back of the train delicate delegation heading to India on Saturday,

1154
00:56:20,093 --> 00:56:22,373
Speaker 3: led by the Prime Minister of course, who's got Ross

1155
00:56:22,453 --> 00:56:24,973
Speaker 3: Taylor with him. He's got Dame. I've got to keep

1156
00:56:25,013 --> 00:56:27,253
Speaker 3: saying that. It seems I've got about a one hundred

1157
00:56:27,373 --> 00:56:29,013
Speaker 3: ticks saying Tyler, you up, but don't you listen to

1158
00:56:29,053 --> 00:56:29,773
Speaker 3: my costcar.

1159
00:56:29,933 --> 00:56:32,773
Speaker 2: Because that's because you said, and I quote, they should

1160
00:56:32,773 --> 00:56:36,093
Speaker 2: take Richard Hadley or something, someone that they know from cricket.

1161
00:56:36,173 --> 00:56:38,853
Speaker 3: He's one of our greats. And yeah, granted Richard was

1162
00:56:39,253 --> 00:56:40,293
Speaker 3: a superstar a long time.

1163
00:56:40,493 --> 00:56:43,253
Speaker 2: They're all onto that, and they took a more recent one. Yeah,

1164
00:56:43,453 --> 00:56:46,013
Speaker 2: I'm not going to hear a bad word about paddles. Yeah, absolutely,

1165
00:56:46,133 --> 00:56:46,733
Speaker 2: sir Richard.

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00:56:46,773 --> 00:56:48,413
Speaker 3: I've got to say as well, because oh yeah, how

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00:56:48,493 --> 00:56:50,133
Speaker 3: dare I not say, Sir Richard.

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00:56:49,973 --> 00:56:52,693
Speaker 2: Great New Zealander. Absolutely, Ross Taylor is as well. The

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00:56:52,813 --> 00:56:55,333
Speaker 2: sex is there are eighty five percent growth of millionaires

1170
00:56:55,373 --> 00:56:59,013
Speaker 2: between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty three. Yeah, So what

1171
00:56:59,053 --> 00:57:01,573
Speaker 2: I was saying before about about one hundred and thirty

1172
00:57:01,613 --> 00:57:04,813
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million people according to bloom Ventures,

1173
00:57:05,453 --> 00:57:09,133
Speaker 2: an other potential market with people at the money to spend. Basically,

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00:57:09,213 --> 00:57:11,893
Speaker 2: what they're saying is that Indian's wealthy population is not

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00:57:12,013 --> 00:57:15,893
Speaker 2: growing in numbers, but is growing considerably in wealth, right,

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00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:19,173
Speaker 2: so that those that are getting wealthy are getting much

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00:57:19,293 --> 00:57:23,053
Speaker 2: more wealthy. But those numbers of wealthy aren't necessary growing.

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00:57:23,053 --> 00:57:27,173
Speaker 3: If you see what the millionaires the are getting richer effectively.

1179
00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:29,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, the millionaires one hundred, one hundred thousand years. Yeah,

1180
00:57:29,933 --> 00:57:30,933
Speaker 2: that's what That's what I'm saying.

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00:57:31,373 --> 00:57:32,973
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighteen eighties to the number of

1182
00:57:33,013 --> 00:57:35,813
Speaker 3: called get a Dylan good day.

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00:57:38,133 --> 00:57:41,853
Speaker 2: Now, your thoughts on business with India, Well.

1184
00:57:42,213 --> 00:57:45,253
Speaker 18: Markets are good, right, I mean I don't necessarily because

1185
00:57:45,293 --> 00:57:48,493
Speaker 18: of the R and the C in the acronym, I

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00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:52,733
Speaker 18: don't think I necessarily share the extent of Mayor Brown's

1187
00:57:52,813 --> 00:57:58,173
Speaker 18: enthusiasm about bricks. But I do think having access to

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00:57:58,253 --> 00:57:59,933
Speaker 18: a larger market like that, and I heard you guys

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00:57:59,973 --> 00:58:02,853
Speaker 18: talking about the numbers now, it would give us more

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00:58:02,893 --> 00:58:05,053
Speaker 18: options because I mean, at the moment with the CEA

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00:58:05,613 --> 00:58:09,933
Speaker 18: in the bricks conversation, we've stuck with the opposing policies.

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00:58:09,973 --> 00:58:11,933
Speaker 18: On the one hand, you've got defense and foreign policy

1193
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:15,173
Speaker 18: versus economic policy, you know, and that's a bit of

1194
00:58:15,213 --> 00:58:17,973
Speaker 18: a cash twenty too. We're playing policy twister at the moment,

1195
00:58:18,053 --> 00:58:20,693
Speaker 18: trying to appease all sides. And that's just with China.

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00:58:21,173 --> 00:58:23,213
Speaker 18: And on the other hand, you've got all of our

1197
00:58:23,253 --> 00:58:26,653
Speaker 18: other ex World War two allies with the strength of

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Speaker 18: spine to be able to condemn certain foreign policy decisions

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Speaker 18: from the orangeineerer on the other side of the ocean.

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Speaker 18: And we're too afraid, purely because we had sixteen point

1201
00:58:37,933 --> 00:58:40,893
Speaker 18: four billion dollars worth of exports of goods and services

1202
00:58:40,933 --> 00:58:43,213
Speaker 18: in twenty twenty four to the US, and we did

1203
00:58:43,293 --> 00:58:47,093
Speaker 18: more than twenty one with China. So if we can

1204
00:58:47,173 --> 00:58:49,533
Speaker 18: open up another market, it might give us the stones

1205
00:58:49,573 --> 00:58:51,013
Speaker 18: we need to be able to say no, bra you

1206
00:58:51,053 --> 00:58:53,933
Speaker 18: can't do that. When it comes to Ukraine or when

1207
00:58:53,973 --> 00:58:55,933
Speaker 18: it comes to tariffs and things like that, we might

1208
00:58:55,973 --> 00:58:58,333
Speaker 18: not care as much. So I think having more customers

1209
00:58:58,573 --> 00:58:59,373
Speaker 18: is always a good thing.

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00:58:59,693 --> 00:59:00,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

1211
00:59:00,453 --> 00:59:02,813
Speaker 2: And in terms of those about termin eggs in one

1212
00:59:02,853 --> 00:59:05,893
Speaker 2: basket situation that we often talk about, we keep doing it.

1213
00:59:05,973 --> 00:59:08,133
Speaker 2: We keep all eggs, We keep moving all our eggs

1214
00:59:08,133 --> 00:59:09,213
Speaker 2: to from baskets, and just.

1215
00:59:11,013 --> 00:59:12,733
Speaker 18: We should be selling our X to the States because

1216
00:59:12,733 --> 00:59:14,253
Speaker 18: I mean they're making a fortune at the moment.

1217
00:59:14,533 --> 00:59:18,253
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean you mentioned those emerging economies and

1218
00:59:18,693 --> 00:59:22,573
Speaker 3: as you called it, bricks there. But of those Brazil, Russia, India, China,

1219
00:59:22,653 --> 00:59:25,573
Speaker 3: and South Africa, we already do business with China. India

1220
00:59:25,693 --> 00:59:29,853
Speaker 3: seems the knicks beast choice right, Well, exactly, And I

1221
00:59:29,893 --> 00:59:31,693
Speaker 3: mean the thing is, I mean some.

1222
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Speaker 19: Of those some of those letters in the alphabet might

1223
00:59:34,773 --> 00:59:37,013
Speaker 19: believe a bit of a bad taste ethically, whatever the

1224
00:59:37,093 --> 00:59:41,093
Speaker 19: case is. But you know, Africa, and again we look

1225
00:59:41,133 --> 00:59:43,053
Speaker 19: at places like emerging markets and we think, wow, well

1226
00:59:43,053 --> 00:59:46,253
Speaker 19: there's no money there, you know, but they've got economies

1227
00:59:46,293 --> 00:59:46,573
Speaker 19: of scale.

1228
00:59:46,653 --> 00:59:48,653
Speaker 18: Your source pointed out, you've got more than a billion people,

1229
00:59:48,693 --> 00:59:51,133
Speaker 18: even if it's on new zero point one percent of millionaires.

1230
00:59:51,973 --> 00:59:53,933
Speaker 18: Look at the size, look at the size of the

1231
00:59:53,973 --> 00:59:56,493
Speaker 18: middle to aft of classes looking to consume our goods

1232
00:59:56,493 --> 00:59:59,453
Speaker 18: and services. And you've got Africa, You've got India, you've

1233
00:59:59,453 --> 01:00:02,613
Speaker 18: got South America. There's a lot of customers out there. Yeah,

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01:00:02,693 --> 01:00:03,693
Speaker 18: so these are not bad things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, you talk about ethically. And look,

1236
01:00:06,773 --> 01:00:08,613
Speaker 2: there's some questions around us right now, of course, but

1237
01:00:08,813 --> 01:00:11,973
Speaker 2: India is a democracy. It's the world's biggest democracy, and

1238
01:00:12,293 --> 01:00:15,053
Speaker 2: we do prefer to do business with democracies.

1239
01:00:15,213 --> 01:00:15,413
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1240
01:00:16,373 --> 01:00:19,333
Speaker 18: Well, I mean, I mean, I don't know if you

1241
01:00:19,373 --> 01:00:22,733
Speaker 18: saw that that speech by that one hundred plus year

1242
01:00:22,773 --> 01:00:27,533
Speaker 18: old Canadian guy at the Labor conference. I mean, he's

1243
01:00:27,533 --> 01:00:29,693
Speaker 18: been attending it for what is it sixty five years?

1244
01:00:29,773 --> 01:00:33,053
Speaker 18: He said it's he sixty fifth attendance or something like that. Yeah,

1245
01:00:33,253 --> 01:00:36,253
Speaker 18: but I mean when that guy spoke, he had the

1246
01:00:36,293 --> 01:00:38,693
Speaker 18: strength strength of spine to say that there are certain

1247
01:00:38,733 --> 01:00:42,253
Speaker 18: things that we just cannot ignore. You can't just excuse

1248
01:00:42,293 --> 01:00:44,453
Speaker 18: things because you're making money from a conversation. I mean

1249
01:00:44,533 --> 01:00:47,093
Speaker 18: that's blood money, that's bad money. And when you start

1250
01:00:47,133 --> 01:00:49,773
Speaker 18: having conversations about you know, the cashogis of the world

1251
01:00:49,813 --> 01:00:52,253
Speaker 18: being flung from hotels and things like that, how does

1252
01:00:52,333 --> 01:00:54,813
Speaker 18: one sleep at night? Where one spends one's money. You

1253
01:00:54,973 --> 01:00:59,093
Speaker 18: have to know your pocketbook kind of you know, communicates

1254
01:00:59,213 --> 01:01:01,733
Speaker 18: what your ethics are. And I think we're better than that.

1255
01:01:02,173 --> 01:01:06,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, sometimes sometimes we just hold our

1256
01:01:06,133 --> 01:01:07,213
Speaker 2: noses and take the money.

1257
01:01:07,373 --> 01:01:11,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the world. Sometimes, Oh, one hundred and

1258
01:01:11,653 --> 01:01:13,573
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you

1259
01:01:13,573 --> 01:01:16,453
Speaker 3: want to take through nine to nine too. You're more

1260
01:01:16,693 --> 01:01:19,093
Speaker 3: than welcome. We'll get to a few of those sex

1261
01:01:19,253 --> 01:01:21,293
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is twenty eight to.

1262
01:01:21,373 --> 01:01:27,773
Speaker 13: Three deuce talks at the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis.

1263
01:01:27,933 --> 01:01:31,253
Speaker 13: It's no trouble with a Blue bubble. School lunch provider

1264
01:01:31,333 --> 01:01:34,973
Speaker 13: LaBelle Group has gone into liquidation. It has a contract

1265
01:01:35,053 --> 01:01:38,133
Speaker 13: to supply one hundred and twenty five thousand meals a day.

1266
01:01:38,653 --> 01:01:43,133
Speaker 13: Minister David Seymour says it won't impact lunch deliveries. Police

1267
01:01:43,173 --> 01:01:45,493
Speaker 13: are our calling the death of forty eight year old

1268
01:01:45,533 --> 01:01:50,693
Speaker 13: Donnie Hoben and Pukakoheer in December a homicide. Preliminary pathologist

1269
01:01:50,773 --> 01:01:55,413
Speaker 13: findings suggest he was assaulted before he died, mounting fears

1270
01:01:55,493 --> 01:01:59,613
Speaker 13: on Wall Street and in economies worldwide as markets drop

1271
01:01:59,733 --> 01:02:04,293
Speaker 13: in response to Donald Trump's tariff wars. Six electric cars,

1272
01:02:04,373 --> 01:02:07,973
Speaker 13: mostly Tesla's, have been left undriveable after being tagged, and

1273
01:02:08,053 --> 01:02:11,253
Speaker 13: dry ways across central Auckland ought to be a protest

1274
01:02:11,333 --> 01:02:15,853
Speaker 13: against Elon Musk. The Water Services Authority says councils have

1275
01:02:15,933 --> 01:02:20,093
Speaker 13: added barriers to almost half of targeted water sources country wide,

1276
01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:24,093
Speaker 13: giving two hundred and twenty seven thousand people safer water.

1277
01:02:24,653 --> 01:02:27,653
Speaker 13: Another fourteen supplies will be protected by the end of

1278
01:02:27,733 --> 01:02:31,533
Speaker 13: the year, protecting another four hundred and thirty thousand people.

1279
01:02:32,573 --> 01:02:36,093
Speaker 13: Dilworth's School abuse why they should wind up this charity

1280
01:02:36,173 --> 01:02:38,573
Speaker 13: and make it a charter school. Read the full column

1281
01:02:38,613 --> 01:02:41,093
Speaker 13: at n Zen Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eath

1282
01:02:41,173 --> 01:02:42,013
Speaker 13: and Tyler Adams.

1283
01:02:43,253 --> 01:02:45,693
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean. We're talking about doing business

1284
01:02:45,733 --> 01:02:47,933
Speaker 3: and India on the back of the trade delegation that

1285
01:02:48,133 --> 01:02:50,853
Speaker 3: is heading to the subcontinent in about five days time.

1286
01:02:51,253 --> 01:02:55,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you've done business in India, what do

1287
01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:57,453
Speaker 2: you need to know? What are the challenges and what

1288
01:02:57,573 --> 01:03:01,773
Speaker 2: can we sell them and that wants can we give

1289
01:03:01,813 --> 01:03:06,213
Speaker 2: them sell them because currently we're running a deficit with them.

1290
01:03:06,413 --> 01:03:09,093
Speaker 2: In the December twenty two, twenty four court in New

1291
01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:12,693
Speaker 2: Zealand exported three hundred and eighty three million dollars of

1292
01:03:12,813 --> 01:03:17,533
Speaker 2: total goods and services imported four hundred and thirty two

1293
01:03:18,373 --> 01:03:19,253
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1294
01:03:19,733 --> 01:03:22,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, And as we mentioned a little bit earlier, we've

1295
01:03:22,333 --> 01:03:25,893
Speaker 3: given the Free Trade Agreement a few cranks the first

1296
01:03:25,933 --> 01:03:29,173
Speaker 3: and twenty ten and then picked up negotiations in twenty fifteen.

1297
01:03:29,373 --> 01:03:32,773
Speaker 3: It appears dairy was the FICIALOK in those negotiations, so

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01:03:32,853 --> 01:03:35,093
Speaker 3: they didn't progress. But Christopher Luxen's going to give it

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Speaker 3: another crack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they make a hell of a lot of dairy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of little farmers there that would not

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Speaker 2: be happy if we just flooded their market with our

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Speaker 2: superior quality dairy. We do dairy well here this Texas

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Speaker 2: is corruption is corruption, you knuckle, there's no difference. Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think there's all kinds of difference

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Speaker 2: of corruption. What you're responding to is someone is saying

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Speaker 2: there's little bits of corruption, like little backhand is to

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Speaker 2: get someone to do something like a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a cashier, a little bit of

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Speaker 2: there there. That's that's sort of load level corruption. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: cashis and stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:04:07,093 --> 01:04:09,013
Speaker 2: And then this corruption that goes right to the top

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Speaker 2: of governmental corruption. Corruption is a cruption.

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Speaker 3: There are tears of corruption.

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Speaker 2: This huge chairs of coruption. Yeah, you know, there's paying

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Speaker 2: your babysitter under the table, and then this watergate. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, allthough, as I see it on Friday question

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Speaker 2: everything after I heard Bill Murray's insight into Bob Wooward's

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Speaker 2: book on John Belushi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he absolutely slammed Hi, didn't they? And fair enough too?

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Speaker 3: If you watch those comments in that interview, Yeah you think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: fair enough, Bill Murray.

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Speaker 2: You say, Bob Woodard, this guy that's so celebrated as

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Speaker 2: this incredible journalist but actually did an absolute hatchet job

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Speaker 2: and didn't do his research properly. And someone who's best

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Speaker 2: friends with John Belus, She was like, this book is

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01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:52,533
Speaker 2: absolutely rubbish and that makes you question absolutely everything he does.

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Speaker 2: And you notice that, don't you. When something comes into

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Speaker 2: your sphere of knowledge, you often notice that what you're

1331
01:04:57,693 --> 01:05:00,373
Speaker 2: hearing is rubbish and then you go, well, is everything

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01:05:00,373 --> 01:05:03,533
Speaker 2: I'm hearing rubbish because my sphere of knowledge is very narrow?

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01:05:03,773 --> 01:05:04,013
Speaker 10: Yeah?

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01:05:04,133 --> 01:05:05,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you've got to be able to trust

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01:05:05,773 --> 01:05:09,533
Speaker 3: that the sources are close to the X person they're

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01:05:09,573 --> 01:05:11,813
Speaker 3: riding about. Was a deep throat that was there, that

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01:05:11,933 --> 01:05:13,853
Speaker 3: was the name? Was it controversial?

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01:05:14,093 --> 01:05:17,973
Speaker 2: Question everything? Nanayamahuta say no more. Previous foreign minister was hopeless.

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01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:20,373
Speaker 2: I remember once some Peter's knocking her for not getting

1340
01:05:20,413 --> 01:05:23,453
Speaker 2: out and about and getting some more trade deals. Yeah,

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01:05:23,533 --> 01:05:25,853
Speaker 2: she didn't seem to travel as much as Winnie does.

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Speaker 3: Yep, guys, hopefully Christopher Luxen takes Bishop and Willis with

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01:05:31,613 --> 01:05:35,933
Speaker 3: him and don't come back. They might find a job

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01:05:36,013 --> 01:05:39,133
Speaker 3: over there that wasn't very happy with.

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Speaker 2: So you want us to export Bishop and Willis. You know,

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01:05:41,773 --> 01:05:43,213
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that it's going to offset this

1347
01:05:43,853 --> 01:05:46,213
Speaker 2: current deficit of three hundred and eighty three million to

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01:05:46,253 --> 01:05:48,573
Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty two million in the twenty twenty

1349
01:05:48,653 --> 01:05:50,333
Speaker 2: four December quarter.

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Speaker 3: How much do you get for a finance minister in India?

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01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:55,893
Speaker 2: India have a disgusting reputation for pollution, not CO two

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01:05:56,053 --> 01:05:59,813
Speaker 2: rubbish trashing rivers, and China will spend billions at the

1353
01:05:59,893 --> 01:06:02,653
Speaker 2: Paris Climb and the Cord Well, they keep dumping in rivers.

1354
01:06:02,733 --> 01:06:05,613
Speaker 2: But we agreed so greedy that we want the money.

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01:06:05,653 --> 01:06:08,013
Speaker 2: That is crazy. Yeah, what we like to do is

1356
01:06:08,493 --> 01:06:11,613
Speaker 2: make rules to make it difficult for ourselves here at Greenwise,

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01:06:11,693 --> 01:06:15,053
Speaker 2: and then we just outsauce all the CO two to

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01:06:15,173 --> 01:06:18,133
Speaker 2: other countries and then we'll import that stuff to New

1359
01:06:18,213 --> 01:06:20,693
Speaker 2: Zealand making no difference, then pat ourselves on the back.

1360
01:06:20,733 --> 01:06:22,493
Speaker 2: That's that's the current system that we're running here.

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01:06:22,573 --> 01:06:24,413
Speaker 3: And we've got a free trade agreement with China. So

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01:06:24,453 --> 01:06:26,773
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about environmental ethics, we are

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01:06:26,813 --> 01:06:29,573
Speaker 3: still doing a heck of a lot of trade with China.

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Speaker 3: Keep those teaks coming through. On nine two, niney two.

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01:06:32,613 --> 01:06:34,893
Speaker 2: A bottle of Cloudy Bay is around one hundred and

1366
01:06:35,053 --> 01:06:37,373
Speaker 2: sixty dollars in a hotel. There is also a rule

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Speaker 2: of it it can be made in India, then you

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01:06:40,013 --> 01:06:43,573
Speaker 2: have to buy local. Why may sales have been stopped

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01:06:43,653 --> 01:06:46,733
Speaker 2: being a manufacturer, Rod, I read that text. I think

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01:06:46,733 --> 01:06:48,613
Speaker 2: I get what he's trying to say there. But yeah,

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01:06:48,693 --> 01:06:50,493
Speaker 2: so there's there's certain rules about if you can buy

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01:06:50,533 --> 01:06:54,373
Speaker 2: it in India, then then you should bite overseas stuff

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01:06:54,413 --> 01:07:00,413
Speaker 2: that's imported. Vickim welcome to the show. Yeah, hi, hi, Hey,

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on doing business with India?

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01:07:04,373 --> 01:07:06,933
Speaker 12: Yeah, plus all. I think, yes, we should be doing

1376
01:07:07,013 --> 01:07:12,053
Speaker 12: business with one point five BILLI large consumer market. But

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01:07:12,173 --> 01:07:14,373
Speaker 12: what are we going to do about it? How are

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01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:18,133
Speaker 12: you going to approach it? A few months ago I

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01:07:18,253 --> 01:07:21,373
Speaker 12: heard on your radio there was a person who had

1380
01:07:21,413 --> 01:07:23,813
Speaker 12: come and was the first part of the panel in

1381
01:07:23,933 --> 01:07:27,013
Speaker 12: Luckson's government, I don't remember the name, was talking about

1382
01:07:27,093 --> 01:07:31,133
Speaker 12: exporting beef to India. Yep, right, And discussion went on

1383
01:07:31,413 --> 01:07:36,053
Speaker 12: about beef. That's an absolute no, no, no, you can't.

1384
01:07:36,493 --> 01:07:40,933
Speaker 12: People don't eat beefy. They've banned beef in India, so

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01:07:41,413 --> 01:07:44,293
Speaker 12: I believe the panel shouldn't be going there and talking

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01:07:44,333 --> 01:07:48,653
Speaker 12: about selling beef in India. Now, what we have terms

1387
01:07:48,693 --> 01:07:52,573
Speaker 12: of opportunity is is our lamb our. Lamb is fantastic.

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01:07:52,653 --> 01:07:55,813
Speaker 12: Wherever you serve lamb and people come overseas at home,

1389
01:07:56,213 --> 01:07:59,653
Speaker 12: they just love it, right, And that's the opportunity there.

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01:07:59,973 --> 01:08:00,253
Speaker 3: I think.

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01:08:00,333 --> 01:08:03,893
Speaker 12: Secondly, there's a lot of disruption happening with mister Trump

1392
01:08:04,173 --> 01:08:07,253
Speaker 12: going about throwing tarists at everyone, so everyone is looking

1393
01:08:07,293 --> 01:08:10,293
Speaker 12: at alternate marks, right. A lot of other countries will

1394
01:08:10,293 --> 01:08:12,893
Speaker 12: look at India. India will start looking at other countries

1395
01:08:12,973 --> 01:08:16,093
Speaker 12: what they get soce from. So that's another opportunity for

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01:08:16,253 --> 01:08:17,612
Speaker 12: us as a country to go there.

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Speaker 2: I say a lot of lamb production as too much

1398
01:08:19,893 --> 01:08:21,333
Speaker 2: lamb production in India.

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Speaker 12: The thing is, I left India in nineteen ninety nine, right,

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01:08:26,973 --> 01:08:29,333
Speaker 12: I'm here since two thousand and five thousand in the

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01:08:29,412 --> 01:08:32,412
Speaker 12: Middle East. If you look at that region, Middle East

1402
01:08:32,692 --> 01:08:35,973
Speaker 12: and including India, that's the places I've been. Goat is

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01:08:36,133 --> 01:08:42,093
Speaker 12: very popular, right, I've been eating goat far right through

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01:08:42,133 --> 01:08:45,213
Speaker 12: my childhood and to my you know, right up to

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01:08:45,652 --> 01:08:48,572
Speaker 12: nineteen ninety nine. But when I continue to see this,

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01:08:49,293 --> 01:08:52,452
Speaker 12: I said, I went to shops buy coat and never

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01:08:52,492 --> 01:08:55,492
Speaker 12: bought lambs. And then someone said, why don't you try

1408
01:08:55,532 --> 01:08:57,852
Speaker 12: the lamb? After that, I've never gone to goat. I

1409
01:08:57,933 --> 01:09:02,412
Speaker 12: only eat these lab right, So if you don't, if

1410
01:09:02,492 --> 01:09:05,093
Speaker 12: you don't know, you don't know right unless you eat it.

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01:09:05,213 --> 01:09:07,412
Speaker 12: So what I'm trying to say is that beef is

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01:09:07,452 --> 01:09:10,333
Speaker 12: a known or please please please make sure you go

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01:09:10,492 --> 01:09:14,893
Speaker 12: with the right people with the right approach. People is

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01:09:14,933 --> 01:09:17,572
Speaker 12: a non of and their alternate is a fantastic thing

1415
01:09:17,652 --> 01:09:20,973
Speaker 12: is the lamb. I'll give a classic example. I was

1416
01:09:21,053 --> 01:09:24,452
Speaker 12: there probably ten years ago, and I traveled after ten years,

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01:09:25,013 --> 01:09:29,333
Speaker 12: India's buying power in terms of the people has phenomenally

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01:09:29,973 --> 01:09:32,532
Speaker 12: gone high. You only see four wheek cars on the

1419
01:09:32,652 --> 01:09:34,812
Speaker 12: road and was on the day where you know, a

1420
01:09:34,893 --> 01:09:39,452
Speaker 12: motorbike was an luxury for me when I was in college, right,

1421
01:09:39,893 --> 01:09:42,852
Speaker 12: but now the college guys go to go on castle.

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01:09:43,133 --> 01:09:45,933
Speaker 12: So so in terms of buying power, the population had

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01:09:45,973 --> 01:09:50,532
Speaker 12: grown up then against there's nothing nothing called as special cities.

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01:09:51,093 --> 01:09:53,652
Speaker 12: Like someone mentioned previously that you know we have offeren

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01:09:53,692 --> 01:09:54,692
Speaker 12: christ at Wellington.

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Speaker 5: No.

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01:09:55,452 --> 01:09:58,652
Speaker 12: One point five point point five billion people. We have

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01:09:58,893 --> 01:10:02,972
Speaker 12: cities who have bigger potential. I studied, I'm from Mumbai.

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01:10:03,372 --> 01:10:05,452
Speaker 12: I studied in a city called Poona, which is as

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01:10:05,532 --> 01:10:11,173
Speaker 12: far as Hamilton, and that's around probably probably two million people.

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01:10:12,253 --> 01:10:13,293
Speaker 2: Did you say about three million.

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Speaker 12: I'm just so yeah, twenty to fifty. I'm just an

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01:10:16,173 --> 01:10:20,253
Speaker 12: average Yeah, but that that that city is has the

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01:10:20,333 --> 01:10:24,012
Speaker 12: potential to do business as good as Mumbai. Mumbai obviously

1435
01:10:24,173 --> 01:10:26,692
Speaker 12: is a capital, commercial capital of the world. So I think,

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01:10:26,772 --> 01:10:30,533
Speaker 12: I think, I think there is opportunities with the disruptions

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01:10:30,572 --> 01:10:34,853
Speaker 12: that's taking place thanks to Trump, and there are opportunities

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01:10:34,893 --> 01:10:37,612
Speaker 12: for beef. I'll give you a classic example for this

1439
01:10:37,812 --> 01:10:40,253
Speaker 12: is twenty twelve years ago when I went in. I

1440
01:10:40,293 --> 01:10:42,732
Speaker 12: went in last year to Indian and I was surprised.

1441
01:10:43,173 --> 01:10:47,173
Speaker 12: My kids and wife had gone after eighteen years and

1442
01:10:47,253 --> 01:10:49,652
Speaker 12: they were shocked. You know, the kind of food yo

1443
01:10:49,853 --> 01:10:52,693
Speaker 12: is available, the kind of wine, the kind of alcohol.

1444
01:10:53,412 --> 01:10:57,093
Speaker 12: I was even talking to one of one of our

1445
01:10:57,652 --> 01:11:03,133
Speaker 12: manufacturers of vodka in in in what's the place in

1446
01:11:03,293 --> 01:11:05,652
Speaker 12: wan Aca was not the name of k And they

1447
01:11:05,692 --> 01:11:08,053
Speaker 12: were trying to Yeah, they were trying to export, trying

1448
01:11:08,093 --> 01:11:11,253
Speaker 12: to sport into the European country. I gave them figures

1449
01:11:11,293 --> 01:11:14,412
Speaker 12: at that point of time, which would double the figures

1450
01:11:14,572 --> 01:11:19,532
Speaker 12: or what consumption is there of that alcohol in India? Right,

1451
01:11:19,853 --> 01:11:22,253
Speaker 12: so if you're talking of ten million, it would be

1452
01:11:22,293 --> 01:11:26,012
Speaker 12: twenty million. Yeah. People having water, Yeah, and but Vorka

1453
01:11:26,253 --> 01:11:31,133
Speaker 12: it is drunk. Is the younger generations are not the

1454
01:11:31,213 --> 01:11:37,893
Speaker 12: whisky drinkers. The younger generation is water, gins, mocktails, cocktails,

1455
01:11:37,973 --> 01:11:39,972
Speaker 12: you know those kind of stuff we've gone to pass

1456
01:11:40,213 --> 01:11:43,892
Speaker 12: when we went and that's that's more popular. So there's

1457
01:11:43,893 --> 01:11:48,932
Speaker 12: a tremendous opportunity the the I feel just that there

1458
01:11:49,013 --> 01:11:51,692
Speaker 12: has to be a panel who understands India better yea,

1459
01:11:51,973 --> 01:11:56,732
Speaker 12: rather than who's probably saw India on TV or saw

1460
01:11:56,812 --> 01:12:00,213
Speaker 12: India or read about India. Is not what should be

1461
01:12:00,333 --> 01:12:03,093
Speaker 12: on that panel, like you. Ten years ago, when I

1462
01:12:03,253 --> 01:12:05,612
Speaker 12: was in India, I went to a fruit seller and

1463
01:12:05,692 --> 01:12:07,652
Speaker 12: you know, fruit seller normally is on the street on

1464
01:12:07,732 --> 01:12:11,093
Speaker 12: his start selling fruit. I quickly wanted to buy fruit.

1465
01:12:11,173 --> 01:12:13,293
Speaker 12: And I saw the kiv fruit and I saw the

1466
01:12:13,452 --> 01:12:16,452
Speaker 12: apple right, and I knew they were for New Zealand

1467
01:12:16,452 --> 01:12:20,412
Speaker 12: apples going from music, So I asked him and I said, yeah, sorry,

1468
01:12:20,452 --> 01:12:22,892
Speaker 12: I was talking an emty. I asked him what fruit

1469
01:12:23,013 --> 01:12:26,892
Speaker 12: is this and he said, this is New Zealand TV fruit.

1470
01:12:27,053 --> 01:12:30,492
Speaker 12: Now he's illiterate. He's on the street selling fruit and

1471
01:12:30,853 --> 01:12:33,772
Speaker 12: he said, I said what it is? What what's TV fruit?

1472
01:12:34,013 --> 01:12:38,933
Speaker 12: He said, this is top quality, fantastic fruit. Right, that

1473
01:12:39,372 --> 01:12:41,973
Speaker 12: was his And then asked him of the apple. He

1474
01:12:42,093 --> 01:12:44,812
Speaker 12: had this massive pyramid and I said, what are the

1475
01:12:44,853 --> 01:12:47,293
Speaker 12: apples on top? I didn't know what were there, and

1476
01:12:47,372 --> 01:12:50,333
Speaker 12: I think I've only kept the New Zealand apples up there. Again.

1477
01:12:50,973 --> 01:12:55,532
Speaker 12: There you got quality expensive.

1478
01:12:55,133 --> 01:12:57,532
Speaker 3: There you go, you go, give me it is. It's

1479
01:12:57,572 --> 01:12:59,732
Speaker 3: there's a market there for premium products. So if they

1480
01:12:59,772 --> 01:13:02,012
Speaker 3: can get some sort of free trade deal across the line.

1481
01:13:02,053 --> 01:13:04,333
Speaker 3: You know, he's quite right. They could drone as spirits

1482
01:13:04,412 --> 01:13:07,532
Speaker 3: that if they could tap into that Indian market. There

1483
01:13:07,772 --> 01:13:10,772
Speaker 3: is gold us for our business like a kadrona distillery.

1484
01:13:10,933 --> 01:13:16,732
Speaker 2: Integrity, quality, good reputation. We're known for our cricket players

1485
01:13:16,812 --> 01:13:17,932
Speaker 2: over there. We're on the map.

1486
01:13:18,452 --> 01:13:21,213
Speaker 3: Let's get into it right. We are horribly late, but

1487
01:13:21,253 --> 01:13:22,732
Speaker 3: we're going to come back with a few more phone

1488
01:13:22,812 --> 01:13:25,133
Speaker 3: calls very shortly. It is fourteen to three.

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01:13:27,293 --> 01:13:31,173
Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

1490
01:13:31,452 --> 01:13:34,932
Speaker 1: eight Matt and Taylor Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety

1491
01:13:35,093 --> 01:13:38,932
Speaker 1: tick every box, a seamless experience awaits news talks, there'd

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Speaker 1: be Murray, good afternoon.

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01:13:41,853 --> 01:13:45,053
Speaker 20: Yeah good I guys, thank you for hearing me. You

1494
01:13:45,173 --> 01:13:47,213
Speaker 20: brought me inside. I was working out in the sun,

1495
01:13:47,333 --> 01:13:48,852
Speaker 20: so it's nice to the end of shade.

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01:13:49,492 --> 01:13:50,372
Speaker 3: Good to chat with you.

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Speaker 20: You go about exporting to India, we automatically, of course,

1498
01:13:55,692 --> 01:13:59,053
Speaker 20: think of Fronterra and milk products. But my understanding is

1499
01:13:59,213 --> 01:14:02,532
Speaker 20: that India has the biggest dairy industry in the world.

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01:14:02,973 --> 01:14:04,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going to happen with their dairy.

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01:14:05,372 --> 01:14:10,692
Speaker 20: And what's more, they're pretty advanced too, because I was

1502
01:14:11,093 --> 01:14:14,933
Speaker 20: still at high school in the nineteen sixties when Truscott,

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01:14:15,013 --> 01:14:19,732
Speaker 20: Stainless Steel and Hamilton were exporting, well certainly negotiating to

1504
01:14:20,013 --> 01:14:24,333
Speaker 20: export railway wagons of about thirty thousand liter capacity in

1505
01:14:24,452 --> 01:14:30,213
Speaker 20: stainless steel to India for cutting milk. So that's that's

1506
01:14:30,253 --> 01:14:35,253
Speaker 20: sixty years ago. Yeah, right, So they don't need our milk.

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01:14:35,772 --> 01:14:40,692
Speaker 2: They don't want to export a huge would be huge problem. Yeah,

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01:14:40,732 --> 01:14:42,452
Speaker 2: they consume it all all and.

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01:14:42,492 --> 01:14:45,372
Speaker 20: I doubt very much whether they need our technology either,

1510
01:14:45,492 --> 01:14:47,652
Speaker 20: because they've got one point five billion people.

1511
01:14:47,973 --> 01:14:50,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't think a free trade dealer is

1512
01:14:50,692 --> 01:14:52,012
Speaker 3: doable here, Murray? Is that what you're saying?

1513
01:14:52,013 --> 01:14:54,572
Speaker 20: Oh, yes, I think it is doable there. We can't

1514
01:14:54,652 --> 01:14:56,972
Speaker 20: we can't do it. We can't build it around around

1515
01:14:57,372 --> 01:15:01,652
Speaker 20: dairy products fair enough to all sorts of things.

1516
01:15:01,612 --> 01:15:05,012
Speaker 2: Which is unfortunate, but a reality. You know, a dairy

1517
01:15:05,093 --> 01:15:08,932
Speaker 2: is so good and we're so good and so making

1518
01:15:08,973 --> 01:15:11,692
Speaker 2: it that no one wants us flooding our superior quality

1519
01:15:11,812 --> 01:15:12,812
Speaker 2: product into their market.

1520
01:15:13,053 --> 01:15:16,652
Speaker 20: Yep, Yeah, I'm what I'm referring to, of course, is

1521
01:15:16,732 --> 01:15:21,732
Speaker 20: stainless still revolutionized dairy industry in New Zealand because prior

1522
01:15:21,812 --> 01:15:25,532
Speaker 20: to the late fifties early sixties, stainless steel was a product,

1523
01:15:25,572 --> 01:15:27,933
Speaker 20: but they couldn't weld it. They they couldn't fabricate it.

1524
01:15:28,013 --> 01:15:31,253
Speaker 20: But somewhere along the line somebody invented the way to

1525
01:15:31,333 --> 01:15:35,333
Speaker 20: weld stainless steel. And Trustcott's was a business in Hamilton.

1526
01:15:35,412 --> 01:15:37,572
Speaker 20: They were from Australia. They came from Melbourne, I think,

1527
01:15:38,412 --> 01:15:42,293
Speaker 20: and they built all the milk tankers that you see

1528
01:15:42,333 --> 01:15:44,892
Speaker 20: today in New Zealand, except they were brought out by

1529
01:15:45,053 --> 01:15:49,253
Speaker 20: NDA National theairy so India National Dairy Association.

1530
01:15:49,452 --> 01:15:53,092
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank god they sorted that out absolutely as gosh,

1531
01:15:53,173 --> 01:15:56,973
Speaker 2: do we need an efficient and successful dairy industry for

1532
01:15:57,053 --> 01:15:57,652
Speaker 2: our economy?

1533
01:15:58,572 --> 01:16:01,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1534
01:16:01,893 --> 01:16:06,293
Speaker 3: the number to call. It is eight to three the.

1535
01:16:06,372 --> 01:16:08,932
Speaker 4: Issues that affect you, and a bit of fun along

1536
01:16:08,973 --> 01:16:09,253
Speaker 4: the way.

1537
01:16:09,532 --> 01:16:13,452
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety innovation,

1538
01:16:13,692 --> 01:16:17,732
Speaker 1: style and design, have it all news talk said, be soon.

1539
01:16:18,053 --> 01:16:20,852
Speaker 3: It is six to three. Plenty of great techs have

1540
01:16:20,973 --> 01:16:22,572
Speaker 3: come through over the past two hours.

1541
01:16:22,812 --> 01:16:25,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, and twenty years from now, all these huge countries

1542
01:16:25,973 --> 01:16:29,293
Speaker 2: will be turning to US for water produced and produce

1543
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:33,253
Speaker 2: and meat. Think big and negotiate well. This Texas says

1544
01:16:33,293 --> 01:16:35,892
Speaker 2: on nineteen ninety two they eat beef in South India,

1545
01:16:36,652 --> 01:16:38,932
Speaker 2: and another text backs that up. Please tell that guy

1546
01:16:39,093 --> 01:16:42,452
Speaker 2: there are more beef eating Muslims there than Hindus. Yep,

1547
01:16:42,612 --> 01:16:45,293
Speaker 2: very good, Thank you guys, appreciate you talking about the

1548
01:16:45,333 --> 01:16:49,933
Speaker 2: positives this afternoon. Talking about business. I've been watching Australia's

1549
01:16:49,973 --> 01:16:53,213
Speaker 2: response to their floods and they're also positive and working together.

1550
01:16:53,452 --> 01:16:55,532
Speaker 2: We need to start talking about the good things.

1551
01:16:56,333 --> 01:16:57,012
Speaker 17: This term.

1552
01:16:58,612 --> 01:17:00,692
Speaker 2: This positive and working together. We need to start talking

1553
01:17:00,692 --> 01:17:03,492
Speaker 2: about the good things. This term and education curriculums e g.

1554
01:17:03,652 --> 01:17:08,572
Speaker 2: Maths and textbook and this textas say, is India juice

1555
01:17:08,612 --> 01:17:11,093
Speaker 2: is almost five times the amount of milk and New

1556
01:17:11,213 --> 01:17:13,892
Speaker 2: Zealand does wow? How many times the population have they got?

1557
01:17:14,333 --> 01:17:14,812
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1558
01:17:14,893 --> 01:17:17,412
Speaker 2: They've got so many there one point four billion, we've

1559
01:17:17,452 --> 01:17:19,412
Speaker 2: got five million. You do the math.

1560
01:17:19,572 --> 01:17:22,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot anyway, and this one and yidday, guys,

1561
01:17:23,333 --> 01:17:26,133
Speaker 3: perhaps losing to India was part of a cunning plan

1562
01:17:26,293 --> 01:17:27,812
Speaker 3: to get more trade with them.

1563
01:17:27,853 --> 01:17:32,253
Speaker 2: From Bruce's theory, Yeah, Luxon gave the Black Caps a

1564
01:17:32,293 --> 01:17:33,852
Speaker 2: call and I just go let them win by one

1565
01:17:33,933 --> 01:17:36,093
Speaker 2: over because we're heading over there for some negotiations.

1566
01:17:36,173 --> 01:17:38,013
Speaker 3: How if it works, so we'll let them have it.

1567
01:17:38,173 --> 01:17:40,093
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for all the text and phone

1568
01:17:40,133 --> 01:17:42,892
Speaker 3: calls on that really enjoyed that discussion. Right coming up

1569
01:17:42,973 --> 01:17:46,133
Speaker 3: after three o'clock. How often do you check on your

1570
01:17:46,253 --> 01:17:50,053
Speaker 3: parents or family members? How important is it to check

1571
01:17:50,133 --> 01:17:51,933
Speaker 3: on them on a regular basis. On the back of

1572
01:17:52,732 --> 01:17:57,093
Speaker 3: some pretty harrowing details about Gene Hackman's final days, we

1573
01:17:57,213 --> 01:17:57,612
Speaker 3: now know.

1574
01:17:58,412 --> 01:18:00,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I know now that it's two hundred and

1575
01:18:00,572 --> 01:18:02,852
Speaker 2: eighty times the population India has two hundred and eighty

1576
01:18:02,893 --> 01:18:04,092
Speaker 2: times the population of New Zealand.

1577
01:18:04,213 --> 01:18:06,053
Speaker 3: Old one. That was some crook maths. Was that just

1578
01:18:06,093 --> 01:18:06,452
Speaker 3: in your head?

1579
01:18:06,532 --> 01:18:07,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just in my head.

1580
01:18:07,333 --> 01:18:08,812
Speaker 3: Totally sure, clever boy.

1581
01:18:08,812 --> 01:18:11,772
Speaker 2: We are no calculator, no calculator involved.

1582
01:18:12,492 --> 01:18:15,372
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. How important

1583
01:18:15,452 --> 01:18:17,333
Speaker 3: is it for you to check on your family members?

1584
01:18:17,372 --> 01:18:19,973
Speaker 3: And we also want to talk about granny flats? Do

1585
01:18:20,173 --> 01:18:22,532
Speaker 3: you have a granny flat at your place where you've

1586
01:18:22,532 --> 01:18:25,372
Speaker 3: got your parents living in the back garden and they

1587
01:18:25,452 --> 01:18:28,173
Speaker 3: can help babysit the kids. It is certainly something that

1588
01:18:28,253 --> 01:18:29,372
Speaker 3: more and more families are doing.

1589
01:18:29,532 --> 01:18:31,093
Speaker 2: Bring back multi generational living.

1590
01:18:31,333 --> 01:18:35,173
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Nine two nine two is the text number. New

1591
01:18:35,293 --> 01:18:37,652
Speaker 3: Sport and Weather on its way. Grant to have your company.

1592
01:18:37,692 --> 01:18:40,333
Speaker 3: As always, you're listening to matt and Tyler. Good afternoon,

1593
01:18:52,532 --> 01:18:53,213
Speaker 3: your new.

1594
01:18:53,213 --> 01:18:55,812
Speaker 4: Home for insightful and entertaining talk.

1595
01:18:55,973 --> 01:19:00,253
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC

1596
01:19:00,452 --> 01:19:01,972
Speaker 1: ninety on News Talk SEV.

1597
01:19:03,053 --> 01:19:06,372
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. Seven past three. Now, just

1598
01:19:06,412 --> 01:19:10,412
Speaker 3: before we move on to our next topic, you're you're

1599
01:19:10,732 --> 01:19:13,372
Speaker 3: getting a few questions about your mathematics Yeah.

1600
01:19:13,452 --> 01:19:17,412
Speaker 2: I'm saying what percent how much? How many more people

1601
01:19:18,093 --> 01:19:21,213
Speaker 2: have India got the New Zealand and I'm saying two

1602
01:19:21,333 --> 01:19:23,732
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty times the population one point four billion

1603
01:19:23,772 --> 01:19:26,532
Speaker 2: divided by five million. Yeah, it's very simple. Someone is saying, Matt,

1604
01:19:27,452 --> 01:19:29,452
Speaker 2: I don't think so. If India has a population of

1605
01:19:29,532 --> 01:19:31,692
Speaker 2: four billion and we are four to five million, you

1606
01:19:31,772 --> 01:19:34,053
Speaker 2: don't need to work out that you've got it wrong. Yeah,

1607
01:19:34,093 --> 01:19:36,013
Speaker 2: but mate, you're putting in the wrong numbers. India does

1608
01:19:36,053 --> 01:19:37,612
Speaker 2: not have a population of four billion. No, you've got

1609
01:19:37,612 --> 01:19:39,692
Speaker 2: a population of one point four billion. Yeah, all you've

1610
01:19:39,692 --> 01:19:41,412
Speaker 2: got to do you don't even need a calculate it

1611
01:19:41,492 --> 01:19:44,933
Speaker 2: for this, tyler. Okay, we just remove, just remove the

1612
01:19:45,053 --> 01:19:47,612
Speaker 2: zeros that you don't need. So you remove six zeros

1613
01:19:47,612 --> 01:19:49,372
Speaker 2: from both and then it becomes one hundred and forty

1614
01:19:49,372 --> 01:19:51,532
Speaker 2: divided by five and then you get twenty.

1615
01:19:51,412 --> 01:19:55,412
Speaker 3: Eight how many how many zeros in a billion?

1616
01:19:55,532 --> 01:19:57,652
Speaker 2: You don't really need to know that. You need to

1617
01:19:57,732 --> 01:20:00,972
Speaker 2: know that there's six and a million. Okay, so there's

1618
01:20:01,093 --> 01:20:02,772
Speaker 2: six zeros and the end of five million. So you

1619
01:20:02,933 --> 01:20:04,133
Speaker 2: just to make it easier because you don't want to

1620
01:20:04,173 --> 01:20:06,293
Speaker 2: go lower than the five mate, right, because that would

1621
01:20:06,293 --> 01:20:09,133
Speaker 2: be ridiculous. There, make yourself more comfortable, more complicated, So

1622
01:20:09,173 --> 01:20:11,492
Speaker 2: you take all the zeros off the don't need to

1623
01:20:11,532 --> 01:20:12,372
Speaker 2: do a math listen here do.

1624
01:20:12,412 --> 01:20:14,412
Speaker 3: I Well, instead of doing that, I just googled one

1625
01:20:14,452 --> 01:20:17,452
Speaker 3: point four billion divided by five million in those words,

1626
01:20:17,492 --> 01:20:19,532
Speaker 3: and it came back with two hundred and eighty. So well,

1627
01:20:19,572 --> 01:20:21,652
Speaker 3: there we go. We got technology there. Yeah, I can

1628
01:20:21,692 --> 01:20:23,612
Speaker 3: say Google helped in the ends. I don't need to

1629
01:20:23,692 --> 01:20:26,812
Speaker 3: remove any zeros. I just googled it. Right. Anyway, we've got.

1630
01:20:26,732 --> 01:20:29,532
Speaker 2: A scintillating maths argument going on here on Matt and

1631
01:20:29,532 --> 01:20:30,212
Speaker 2: Tyler afternoon.

1632
01:20:30,412 --> 01:20:32,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got the maths right, so there we go.

1633
01:20:32,772 --> 01:20:33,532
Speaker 3: But there wonder bid.

1634
01:20:33,732 --> 01:20:35,772
Speaker 2: Anyway, let's move on from it. We all agree they've

1635
01:20:35,772 --> 01:20:38,293
Speaker 2: got roughly two hundred and eighty times our population. Yeah,

1636
01:20:38,412 --> 01:20:42,333
Speaker 2: which is quite amazing. That we sometimes beat them in

1637
01:20:42,412 --> 01:20:45,532
Speaker 2: cricket like the World Test Championship. But you boys, but

1638
01:20:46,532 --> 01:20:48,772
Speaker 2: I mean obviously lost in the champions trophy. But that

1639
01:20:48,853 --> 01:20:50,492
Speaker 2: one doesn't matter. It was only by six balls.

1640
01:20:50,572 --> 01:20:53,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. Let's have a chat about this chicking

1641
01:20:53,372 --> 01:20:56,253
Speaker 3: and on family members. It is on the back of

1642
01:20:56,372 --> 01:21:00,252
Speaker 3: what we now know about the death of Gene Hackman

1643
01:21:00,732 --> 01:21:03,852
Speaker 3: very heartbreaking. We know he died of heart disease with

1644
01:21:03,973 --> 01:21:10,293
Speaker 3: complications from Alzheimer's disease, and he after his wife passed

1645
01:21:10,333 --> 01:21:13,972
Speaker 3: away seven days before he passed away from a rere

1646
01:21:13,973 --> 01:21:14,532
Speaker 3: blood disease.

1647
01:21:14,572 --> 01:21:19,252
Speaker 2: So that's horrible. So she, I assume was his primary

1648
01:21:19,293 --> 01:21:22,133
Speaker 2: caregiver and when she went down, he was in a

1649
01:21:22,173 --> 01:21:26,372
Speaker 2: lot of trouble. So you think about seven days in

1650
01:21:26,492 --> 01:21:28,852
Speaker 2: a terrible situation, not being able to look after yourself,

1651
01:21:29,333 --> 01:21:30,973
Speaker 2: you know, I don't, I don't know, we don't know

1652
01:21:31,013 --> 01:21:33,892
Speaker 2: the details yet, but on the ground, not being able

1653
01:21:33,933 --> 01:21:35,492
Speaker 2: to get what you need, not being able to get

1654
01:21:35,572 --> 01:21:38,892
Speaker 2: up a bunch of scenarios you can imagine and only

1655
01:21:39,372 --> 01:21:41,412
Speaker 2: just imagine being Gene Hackman's daughter.

1656
01:21:41,772 --> 01:21:43,812
Speaker 3: Oh terrible, terrible.

1657
01:21:43,933 --> 01:21:47,492
Speaker 2: And so she's thinking, why didn't I check in with

1658
01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:51,612
Speaker 2: him for that whole week? I mean, he's got he's

1659
01:21:51,652 --> 01:21:56,133
Speaker 2: got he's got Christopher, Elizabeth and Leslie. But I think

1660
01:21:56,253 --> 01:21:58,372
Speaker 2: Lesbie Elizabeth Heckman was the first person to come out

1661
01:21:58,412 --> 01:22:01,133
Speaker 2: to the press about things. But they'll be going, why

1662
01:22:01,173 --> 01:22:04,333
Speaker 2: didn't I why didn't I just ring? You know in

1663
01:22:04,412 --> 01:22:05,213
Speaker 2: that seven days?

1664
01:22:05,452 --> 01:22:09,293
Speaker 3: Absolutely devastating, But you know, you can't know what his

1665
01:22:09,452 --> 01:22:12,412
Speaker 3: children were thinking, but perhaps they were thinking that his

1666
01:22:12,572 --> 01:22:14,892
Speaker 3: wife is a lot younger and it is a rare

1667
01:22:15,732 --> 01:22:18,892
Speaker 3: rodent born disease that she got in the end hunter virus,

1668
01:22:19,333 --> 01:22:22,893
Speaker 3: incredibly rare that they would have thinking Dad's got Alzheimer's.

1669
01:22:23,173 --> 01:22:27,452
Speaker 3: He needs twenty four hour care and his wife is

1670
01:22:27,532 --> 01:22:29,253
Speaker 3: there looking after him. So all is okay?

1671
01:22:29,492 --> 01:22:31,253
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, and as kids are like sixty

1672
01:22:31,253 --> 01:22:34,052
Speaker 2: five years old and such. But I guess my point

1673
01:22:34,173 --> 01:22:37,532
Speaker 2: is that maybe they don't have any reason to feel

1674
01:22:37,572 --> 01:22:41,892
Speaker 2: bad themselves, because you know, seven days isn't that long

1675
01:22:41,933 --> 01:22:44,133
Speaker 2: a time not to get in contact with someone, right, Yeah,

1676
01:22:44,372 --> 01:22:47,532
Speaker 2: but I bet they do. I bet they do feel bad?

1677
01:22:47,612 --> 01:22:49,333
Speaker 3: Oh here, yeah? Could you're not?

1678
01:22:49,612 --> 01:22:52,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, if a parent goes down and

1679
01:22:52,732 --> 01:22:54,852
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you thought about wringing them, or you didn't,

1680
01:22:56,013 --> 01:22:57,213
Speaker 2: you know, because he could have rung and there was

1681
01:22:57,253 --> 01:22:59,612
Speaker 2: no answer, then you think you could have found someone

1682
01:22:59,652 --> 01:23:02,372
Speaker 2: to go around or whatever the situation is. But really

1683
01:23:02,412 --> 01:23:04,173
Speaker 2: what we want to talk about is checking in on

1684
01:23:04,532 --> 01:23:08,532
Speaker 2: your grandparents and your parents if they're getting older. Is

1685
01:23:08,572 --> 01:23:10,852
Speaker 2: that your obligation? And how often should you do it?

1686
01:23:11,452 --> 01:23:15,732
Speaker 2: You know, because especially if they're living on their own,

1687
01:23:16,772 --> 01:23:19,732
Speaker 2: how often you should do it my dad who's in

1688
01:23:19,853 --> 01:23:24,532
Speaker 2: his early eighties. He has the system on him, so

1689
01:23:24,612 --> 01:23:26,253
Speaker 2: if he goes down, it wrings everyone.

1690
01:23:27,013 --> 01:23:28,732
Speaker 3: Oh like a Saint John type.

1691
01:23:29,173 --> 01:23:32,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a device. It starts texts everyone in

1692
01:23:32,333 --> 01:23:34,612
Speaker 2: the family and then it starts ringing people in order

1693
01:23:35,013 --> 01:23:38,732
Speaker 2: of who's closest to him, not emotionally but actually physically

1694
01:23:38,772 --> 01:23:40,973
Speaker 2: closest to him. And you know, I'm down the list

1695
01:23:41,013 --> 01:23:42,893
Speaker 2: because I live in Auckland. He lives in Dunedin. But

1696
01:23:43,053 --> 01:23:45,572
Speaker 2: you know, we'll get around to seven. But sometimes I

1697
01:23:45,652 --> 01:23:48,133
Speaker 2: wake up and there'll be a text going emergency and

1698
01:23:48,213 --> 01:23:50,213
Speaker 2: then you ring up and he goes, oh, yeah, sorry,

1699
01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:52,052
Speaker 2: I hugged someone at a party.

1700
01:23:53,732 --> 01:23:56,213
Speaker 3: That's frightening. Yeah, so is that when if he falls over,

1701
01:23:56,253 --> 01:23:58,053
Speaker 3: if he has a bad fall and he can't get

1702
01:23:58,093 --> 01:24:01,293
Speaker 3: to the phone, at least this will trigger that response.

1703
01:24:01,333 --> 01:24:03,772
Speaker 3: How does it work? So obviously it can detect the fall,

1704
01:24:04,532 --> 01:24:06,772
Speaker 3: and then it just starts running through the numbers until

1705
01:24:06,812 --> 01:24:07,372
Speaker 3: somebody else.

1706
01:24:07,333 --> 01:24:09,852
Speaker 2: Is yeah, that's right. I think I'm about fifth or

1707
01:24:09,973 --> 01:24:12,532
Speaker 2: sixth on the list. But it sends everyone to text

1708
01:24:12,572 --> 01:24:14,772
Speaker 2: message and so you know, off and I'll ring back.

1709
01:24:14,772 --> 01:24:16,133
Speaker 2: You won't as I ring my sister and they go

1710
01:24:16,173 --> 01:24:18,692
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine. But that's some

1711
01:24:18,933 --> 01:24:23,293
Speaker 2: peace of mind you but you know it's not cheap

1712
01:24:23,333 --> 01:24:24,412
Speaker 2: that whole service.

1713
01:24:24,572 --> 01:24:27,492
Speaker 3: No, no, I'll just thinking back to my grandparents because

1714
01:24:27,492 --> 01:24:29,972
Speaker 3: we were not too far away from them in christ Church,

1715
01:24:30,093 --> 01:24:33,333
Speaker 3: same suburb, and Mum was and Nelson, and that was

1716
01:24:33,372 --> 01:24:35,293
Speaker 3: when they were starting to get a bit older and

1717
01:24:35,492 --> 01:24:37,572
Speaker 3: Nana was starting to see the effects a little bit

1718
01:24:37,692 --> 01:24:41,173
Speaker 3: of dementia, and so I was kind of the point

1719
01:24:41,173 --> 01:24:43,532
Speaker 3: of call, along with Mum's sister, my Auntie, who was

1720
01:24:43,572 --> 01:24:45,812
Speaker 3: pretty close by, as well my cousin, so there was

1721
01:24:45,853 --> 01:24:49,372
Speaker 3: a good team of us. But I do remember there

1722
01:24:49,452 --> 01:24:51,372
Speaker 3: was a power cut in christ Juch and I rang

1723
01:24:51,452 --> 01:24:53,532
Speaker 3: Mum and said, hey, just letting you know there's been

1724
01:24:53,572 --> 01:24:56,652
Speaker 3: a power cut. I might try and cycle around to

1725
01:24:56,732 --> 01:24:58,612
Speaker 3: see Nana. And granted, because I couldn't get the car

1726
01:24:58,692 --> 01:25:00,572
Speaker 3: out of the garage because the power cut, couldn't open

1727
01:25:00,612 --> 01:25:04,133
Speaker 3: the door. But went round there and bless Grandy because

1728
01:25:04,133 --> 01:25:07,772
Speaker 3: he was a fantastic grandfather, but he was a bit

1729
01:25:07,812 --> 01:25:09,972
Speaker 3: annoyed when I went around there knock on the door

1730
01:25:10,093 --> 01:25:13,852
Speaker 3: and it was about ten thirty at night and he said, what, Brandy,

1731
01:25:14,173 --> 01:25:16,093
Speaker 3: just checking on you. You were a right said yes,

1732
01:25:16,293 --> 01:25:18,772
Speaker 3: we're sleeping. What do you want so the power was

1733
01:25:18,812 --> 01:25:21,933
Speaker 3: out and said, well I didn't know that, so he.

1734
01:25:21,973 --> 01:25:24,133
Speaker 2: Couldn't see the love and that you were showing by

1735
01:25:24,173 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 2: coming around.

1736
01:25:24,692 --> 01:25:26,333
Speaker 3: He did the day to be fair, you know, I

1737
01:25:26,412 --> 01:25:28,213
Speaker 3: woke them both up, so that would have been annoying.

1738
01:25:28,253 --> 01:25:30,333
Speaker 3: But the next day he did rang me and said, hey,

1739
01:25:30,412 --> 01:25:32,333
Speaker 3: thanks for coming around because I dropped off a couple

1740
01:25:32,372 --> 01:25:33,452
Speaker 3: of torches if they needed it.

1741
01:25:33,612 --> 01:25:35,572
Speaker 2: Say, but I can see that because it's hard to

1742
01:25:35,612 --> 01:25:38,652
Speaker 2: transition by some from someone who has been in charge

1743
01:25:39,253 --> 01:25:42,893
Speaker 2: and brought up children and has been you know, a

1744
01:25:43,053 --> 01:25:44,812
Speaker 2: leader and all that kind of stuff, to then have

1745
01:25:44,933 --> 01:25:47,133
Speaker 2: a snotty nose caad like you Tyler coming around to

1746
01:25:47,213 --> 01:25:48,572
Speaker 2: check on them, you know what I mean? Yeah, I

1747
01:25:48,652 --> 01:25:50,852
Speaker 2: can see that that might hurt you pride a bit.

1748
01:25:51,013 --> 01:25:53,013
Speaker 3: Yeah on my little bike as well, so that you know,

1749
01:25:53,173 --> 01:25:55,093
Speaker 3: it was slightly embarrassing as well, because I couldn't get

1750
01:25:55,093 --> 01:25:55,532
Speaker 3: the car out.

1751
01:25:55,412 --> 01:25:58,452
Speaker 2: Of humiliating paink little bike with the spoky dokies.

1752
01:25:58,492 --> 01:26:00,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you don't think about that. When there's a

1753
01:26:00,093 --> 01:26:01,732
Speaker 3: power I can't thinking cheapest, how do I get the

1754
01:26:01,772 --> 01:26:02,213
Speaker 3: car out?

1755
01:26:02,933 --> 01:26:04,893
Speaker 2: So how often do you should you check on on

1756
01:26:04,973 --> 01:26:07,333
Speaker 2: your parents. I wait, under at eighty ten, eighty nine,

1757
01:26:07,452 --> 01:26:10,293
Speaker 2: two niney two, do we owe it to our parents

1758
01:26:10,333 --> 01:26:12,612
Speaker 2: and grandparents to look after them? I think we do.

1759
01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:15,173
Speaker 2: I think they brought us into the world, and I

1760
01:26:15,253 --> 01:26:17,013
Speaker 2: think they've probably sacked for us a lot. You know,

1761
01:26:17,093 --> 01:26:18,973
Speaker 2: if you look at yourself, actually, you know, you can

1762
01:26:19,053 --> 01:26:21,492
Speaker 2: go back and there's all these ancestors going back all

1763
01:26:21,532 --> 01:26:25,253
Speaker 2: this way that had their struggles and survive long enough

1764
01:26:25,333 --> 01:26:27,093
Speaker 2: to have you. Going all the way back to when

1765
01:26:27,133 --> 01:26:29,692
Speaker 2: we were little fishes. They had these great great great

1766
01:26:29,692 --> 01:26:34,732
Speaker 2: gat great great grandparents that went through a lot to

1767
01:26:34,893 --> 01:26:37,612
Speaker 2: get us here. Yes, right, and the ones that we

1768
01:26:37,772 --> 01:26:40,572
Speaker 2: can think are our parents and our grandparents, and if

1769
01:26:40,612 --> 01:26:43,692
Speaker 2: we're lucky enough, our great grandparents definitely. So I think

1770
01:26:43,732 --> 01:26:45,052
Speaker 2: it's an absolute obligation.

1771
01:26:45,333 --> 01:26:47,293
Speaker 3: And I might be wrong here, but it feels like

1772
01:26:47,572 --> 01:26:51,452
Speaker 3: we are going back to multiple generations living in the

1773
01:26:51,572 --> 01:26:53,772
Speaker 3: same plot of land. And you know, when I'm not

1774
01:26:53,853 --> 01:26:56,972
Speaker 3: talking like farm here, I'm talking about just an ordinary

1775
01:26:57,013 --> 01:26:59,333
Speaker 3: house where we put the granny flat in the back

1776
01:26:59,372 --> 01:27:02,253
Speaker 3: of the house. Nana and grandee or Mum and dad

1777
01:27:02,293 --> 01:27:04,852
Speaker 3: can live out there. The family is in the front house.

1778
01:27:05,133 --> 01:27:06,093
Speaker 3: And that's a great way to.

1779
01:27:06,133 --> 01:27:09,053
Speaker 2: Live Jesus actually that I'd have to my dad at

1780
01:27:09,093 --> 01:27:10,772
Speaker 2: gunpoint to get him into a granny flat out the

1781
01:27:10,772 --> 01:27:11,452
Speaker 2: back of my house.

1782
01:27:13,093 --> 01:27:16,053
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1783
01:27:16,293 --> 01:27:18,612
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is

1784
01:27:18,853 --> 01:27:22,612
Speaker 3: quarter past three news Talk zed B and we are

1785
01:27:22,692 --> 01:27:26,293
Speaker 3: talking about how often should you check on your family members,

1786
01:27:26,333 --> 01:27:29,093
Speaker 3: whether that's your grandparents or your parents. On the back

1787
01:27:29,452 --> 01:27:32,173
Speaker 3: of what we now know about Gene Hackman's death, Oh,

1788
01:27:32,213 --> 01:27:34,732
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1789
01:27:35,412 --> 01:27:37,173
Speaker 2: We've also got this text here and I don't know

1790
01:27:37,213 --> 01:27:38,933
Speaker 2: the answer this why did the dog die? So we

1791
01:27:39,013 --> 01:27:41,213
Speaker 2: know why the wife died, and we now know how

1792
01:27:41,333 --> 01:27:45,053
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman died. But there's also this rogue dog that's

1793
01:27:45,093 --> 01:27:48,372
Speaker 2: died as well. And you think unless the dog was

1794
01:27:48,452 --> 01:27:50,532
Speaker 2: locked and yeah.

1795
01:27:50,732 --> 01:27:54,532
Speaker 3: There is a theory the Sheriff's department has suedesceded Johann

1796
01:27:54,572 --> 01:27:56,692
Speaker 3: to know. Yeah, Oh it's pretty horrible.

1797
01:27:56,853 --> 01:27:57,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can handle it.

1798
01:27:58,053 --> 01:28:00,852
Speaker 3: It appears that I'll just read that out here. One

1799
01:28:00,893 --> 01:28:04,372
Speaker 3: of the couple's three dogs, a kelpie mix, was found

1800
01:28:04,412 --> 01:28:08,012
Speaker 3: dead in a crate, So the poor thing was locked. Yeah,

1801
01:28:08,053 --> 01:28:09,892
Speaker 3: when the wife passed away.

1802
01:28:10,013 --> 01:28:13,532
Speaker 2: I didn't want to know that. Gave your heads up

1803
01:28:13,612 --> 01:28:16,612
Speaker 2: and said, do you want to know Ellie your thoughts

1804
01:28:16,812 --> 01:28:19,213
Speaker 2: on checking in on your parents and grandparents?

1805
01:28:20,452 --> 01:28:20,572
Speaker 7: Hi?

1806
01:28:20,732 --> 01:28:21,013
Speaker 21: How are you?

1807
01:28:21,333 --> 01:28:21,532
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1808
01:28:21,572 --> 01:28:22,692
Speaker 3: Good, nice to speak to you.

1809
01:28:23,893 --> 01:28:24,852
Speaker 12: Yeah, no problems.

1810
01:28:25,893 --> 01:28:26,333
Speaker 17: Yeah, So.

1811
01:28:29,612 --> 01:28:31,052
Speaker 10: I have both my parents.

1812
01:28:31,333 --> 01:28:32,212
Speaker 21: I'm early sixties.

1813
01:28:32,253 --> 01:28:36,012
Speaker 10: I have both my parents so alive. They live nearby.

1814
01:28:36,973 --> 01:28:40,772
Speaker 10: My husband's same age. He has both his parents alive

1815
01:28:40,853 --> 01:28:41,732
Speaker 10: and then his auntie.

1816
01:28:41,973 --> 01:28:43,933
Speaker 21: So the aunties.

1817
01:28:44,612 --> 01:28:46,292
Speaker 12: Sorry that all of the women.

1818
01:28:46,452 --> 01:28:49,932
Speaker 10: Around eighty five and the males are nineteen ninety two.

1819
01:28:51,372 --> 01:28:56,173
Speaker 10: So they all live independently in a lifestyle village, but

1820
01:28:56,412 --> 01:29:00,092
Speaker 10: in their own villas, and they all cook for themselves,

1821
01:29:00,133 --> 01:29:01,173
Speaker 10: look after themselves.

1822
01:29:02,013 --> 01:29:03,333
Speaker 12: A couple of them still driving.

1823
01:29:05,213 --> 01:29:05,412
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1824
01:29:05,612 --> 01:29:09,772
Speaker 10: So as far as checking in with them, we put

1825
01:29:09,853 --> 01:29:12,492
Speaker 10: him on a daily basis, which you can whether it's

1826
01:29:12,492 --> 01:29:15,333
Speaker 10: by phone, calling in, you know, a couple of them.

1827
01:29:15,372 --> 01:29:17,492
Speaker 10: We do their groceries and stuff like that for them.

1828
01:29:17,572 --> 01:29:22,093
Speaker 10: We take them out shopping just for drives. And they've

1829
01:29:22,133 --> 01:29:26,013
Speaker 10: got their great grandchildren and my kid our kids that

1830
01:29:26,133 --> 01:29:29,732
Speaker 10: look are looking on them. So yeah, I doubt if

1831
01:29:29,772 --> 01:29:33,573
Speaker 10: a situation like Gene Hackman and his wife would happen.

1832
01:29:33,452 --> 01:29:36,612
Speaker 2: There'd never be seven days without contact.

1833
01:29:36,532 --> 01:29:38,013
Speaker 21: Oh no, no, no way.

1834
01:29:38,133 --> 01:29:41,573
Speaker 10: I mean, my sisters lived out of town one overseas,

1835
01:29:41,652 --> 01:29:46,132
Speaker 10: but they also daily where we're like on our chats

1836
01:29:46,213 --> 01:29:48,133
Speaker 10: and you know, talking daily to them.

1837
01:29:48,213 --> 01:29:49,412
Speaker 12: So yeah, it just wouldn't happen.

1838
01:29:49,772 --> 01:29:51,812
Speaker 10: And I honestly, if one of us tried to get

1839
01:29:51,853 --> 01:29:54,812
Speaker 10: hold of them, we'd be we'd be on the phone

1840
01:29:54,973 --> 01:29:55,772
Speaker 10: on text saying if you.

1841
01:29:55,772 --> 01:29:56,852
Speaker 21: Heard from them, I'm dead today.

1842
01:29:57,133 --> 01:30:00,452
Speaker 12: So yeah, it's yeah, so that wouldn't happen.

1843
01:30:00,893 --> 01:30:03,652
Speaker 2: Good on, Ellie. Did you feel like, like, I mean,

1844
01:30:03,973 --> 01:30:05,492
Speaker 2: I don't know really how to ask this question, but

1845
01:30:05,532 --> 01:30:07,772
Speaker 2: do you see it as an obligation or do you

1846
01:30:07,933 --> 01:30:11,293
Speaker 2: take pleasure in helping out?

1847
01:30:12,772 --> 01:30:12,932
Speaker 7: Oh?

1848
01:30:13,213 --> 01:30:18,652
Speaker 10: No, I think we're really really lucky to have our

1849
01:30:18,772 --> 01:30:22,573
Speaker 10: parents still with us, and you know they've got great grandchildren.

1850
01:30:23,772 --> 01:30:26,053
Speaker 10: You know, they still take such an interest in what

1851
01:30:26,173 --> 01:30:26,732
Speaker 10: they're doing.

1852
01:30:27,933 --> 01:30:28,133
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1853
01:30:28,293 --> 01:30:29,613
Speaker 8: No, I think it's a privilege.

1854
01:30:29,732 --> 01:30:30,173
Speaker 12: I really do.

1855
01:30:31,013 --> 01:30:32,173
Speaker 2: Dricking your kids will do it for you.

1856
01:30:33,732 --> 01:30:35,852
Speaker 12: God, I hope, so, I hope.

1857
01:30:39,652 --> 01:30:42,452
Speaker 10: You know, I've got boys, so our parents have got girls,

1858
01:30:42,572 --> 01:30:44,852
Speaker 10: So I don't know if that's difference. But you know,

1859
01:30:45,093 --> 01:30:49,213
Speaker 10: my husband, he's the same with his auntie and his parents.

1860
01:30:49,333 --> 01:30:51,852
Speaker 10: So yeah, hopefully that filters through.

1861
01:30:52,572 --> 01:30:55,652
Speaker 3: And I would think most New Zealanders would see it

1862
01:30:55,652 --> 01:30:58,812
Speaker 3: as a privilege, right, and being able to look after

1863
01:30:58,893 --> 01:31:00,532
Speaker 3: your parents in that way and take them out for

1864
01:31:00,652 --> 01:31:03,333
Speaker 3: lunch and keep them company, considering what they did for

1865
01:31:03,412 --> 01:31:05,732
Speaker 3: you as a child, raising you for all those years.

1866
01:31:05,812 --> 01:31:08,692
Speaker 3: It's kind of you know, it's it's that full circle

1867
01:31:08,772 --> 01:31:11,213
Speaker 3: moment that they looked after you and now it's your

1868
01:31:11,253 --> 01:31:12,173
Speaker 3: turn to look after them.

1869
01:31:13,173 --> 01:31:15,973
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, it is. Yeah, I think I say, I

1870
01:31:16,013 --> 01:31:20,133
Speaker 10: think we're really really lucky, you know. I think people

1871
01:31:20,173 --> 01:31:26,652
Speaker 10: are living older nowadays as well. Yeah, so someone has

1872
01:31:26,692 --> 01:31:29,333
Speaker 10: to really step in because it constant damn fortune if

1873
01:31:29,372 --> 01:31:35,572
Speaker 10: they go into you know, into kier Yeah yeah, faces yeah, yeah,

1874
01:31:35,973 --> 01:31:38,492
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think much is the family can step

1875
01:31:38,532 --> 01:31:39,532
Speaker 10: in the better.

1876
01:31:39,933 --> 01:31:42,412
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think you're right that, and that

1877
01:31:42,893 --> 01:31:45,133
Speaker 2: it is that daughters are better at this kind of thing.

1878
01:31:45,692 --> 01:31:49,173
Speaker 2: Then then sons. I mean, look at my family. I've

1879
01:31:49,213 --> 01:31:52,692
Speaker 2: got a particular sister that's just incredible at But then again,

1880
01:31:52,732 --> 01:31:55,213
Speaker 2: my dad doesn't really need to be looked after, even

1881
01:31:55,253 --> 01:31:58,652
Speaker 2: though he's in his eighties. But my sisters, well they're

1882
01:31:58,692 --> 01:32:01,093
Speaker 2: down there then near him. They do so much, so

1883
01:32:01,253 --> 01:32:02,612
Speaker 2: much more my dad than I do.

1884
01:32:02,933 --> 01:32:05,732
Speaker 15: That it doesn't make sense.

1885
01:32:06,732 --> 01:32:09,692
Speaker 10: Yeah, but my sister is still incredible, you know, on

1886
01:32:10,093 --> 01:32:12,892
Speaker 10: ones I'm down the line and one's overseas, but they

1887
01:32:13,412 --> 01:32:15,333
Speaker 10: you know, the one overseas.

1888
01:32:14,933 --> 01:32:16,213
Speaker 21: She's here probably twice a year.

1889
01:32:16,412 --> 01:32:20,132
Speaker 12: And yeah, so it's a pretty good around.

1890
01:32:20,213 --> 01:32:20,692
Speaker 7: I think.

1891
01:32:22,293 --> 01:32:25,532
Speaker 2: You great to talk to you and keep that up.

1892
01:32:25,612 --> 01:32:29,532
Speaker 2: I'm sure you will. Yeah, thanks so much, and just

1893
01:32:29,732 --> 01:32:32,213
Speaker 2: make sure your kids see you're doing it and bring

1894
01:32:32,293 --> 01:32:34,333
Speaker 2: it up a lot with your kids. I really hope

1895
01:32:34,372 --> 01:32:37,012
Speaker 2: so they know that the past.

1896
01:32:38,532 --> 01:32:39,172
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

1897
01:32:39,412 --> 01:32:42,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brilliant generational love.

1898
01:32:42,853 --> 01:32:44,652
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Ellie. I mean, you're quite right. I

1899
01:32:44,772 --> 01:32:48,932
Speaker 3: think women are far better and mentioned my grandparents down

1900
01:32:48,973 --> 01:32:52,452
Speaker 3: in christ but my cousin I've just got brothers. But

1901
01:32:52,612 --> 01:32:55,572
Speaker 3: my cousin Sarah, I mean, she leads the charge there

1902
01:32:55,732 --> 01:32:57,973
Speaker 3: and because she's so good at it, I kind of

1903
01:32:58,013 --> 01:32:59,812
Speaker 3: just follow her lead, you know. And it is kind

1904
01:32:59,812 --> 01:33:01,253
Speaker 3: of nice for me as a male when I was

1905
01:33:01,293 --> 01:33:03,492
Speaker 3: down there to say, hey, Sarah, what do you need

1906
01:33:03,532 --> 01:33:05,492
Speaker 3: from me? Anything I can help that. Oh, I got

1907
01:33:05,532 --> 01:33:07,532
Speaker 3: it all sorted. But you know, here's what time you

1908
01:33:07,572 --> 01:33:10,293
Speaker 3: should turn up, you know, to come and have a

1909
01:33:10,333 --> 01:33:12,572
Speaker 3: convo with Nana or to come and see Grandy. And

1910
01:33:12,732 --> 01:33:16,173
Speaker 3: that was quite a nice for me, yea, but saying

1911
01:33:16,213 --> 01:33:18,173
Speaker 3: that a part of me felt a bit bad for

1912
01:33:18,333 --> 01:33:21,173
Speaker 3: not being Sarah sometimes as well.

1913
01:33:21,452 --> 01:33:24,492
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, No, I mean I think there's something

1914
01:33:24,532 --> 01:33:26,692
Speaker 2: that we have as men where we go we just

1915
01:33:26,732 --> 01:33:29,212
Speaker 2: get involved in our own staff, and we get stressed

1916
01:33:29,213 --> 01:33:31,253
Speaker 2: and we're working away, and we just sort of forget

1917
01:33:31,293 --> 01:33:33,093
Speaker 2: that part of things sometimes, you know, and then our

1918
01:33:33,452 --> 01:33:36,293
Speaker 2: our our friendships and and our links with their family

1919
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:39,933
Speaker 2: can shrink. That's why it's great to have sisters to

1920
01:33:41,173 --> 01:33:42,452
Speaker 2: bring you up and hassle you into it.

1921
01:33:42,572 --> 01:33:45,253
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1922
01:33:45,612 --> 01:33:48,692
Speaker 3: number to call. And just as an aside, I'm getting

1923
01:33:48,692 --> 01:33:51,412
Speaker 3: a few texts abusing me for my lack of knowledge

1924
01:33:51,412 --> 01:33:54,772
Speaker 3: about garages. I'll mention a little bit more about that

1925
01:33:54,933 --> 01:33:56,812
Speaker 3: very shortly. Nine two nine two. It is a Tick's number.

1926
01:33:56,853 --> 01:33:58,372
Speaker 2: Why did you tell me about the dog and the crate?

1927
01:33:58,412 --> 01:33:59,612
Speaker 2: That's so grum? I didn't want to hear and.

1928
01:33:59,692 --> 01:34:01,572
Speaker 3: Gave you a warning. I said, you don't want to know.

1929
01:34:02,333 --> 01:34:03,772
Speaker 3: It is twenty four to three.

1930
01:34:03,893 --> 01:34:04,492
Speaker 2: Poor doggie.

1931
01:34:08,853 --> 01:34:12,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tayler Adams afternoons, call Oh eight hundred and

1932
01:34:12,293 --> 01:34:15,292
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk zb good afternoon.

1933
01:34:15,412 --> 01:34:17,732
Speaker 3: How often do you check on your family members?

1934
01:34:18,093 --> 01:34:20,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I said that seven days isn't that long

1935
01:34:20,812 --> 01:34:22,732
Speaker 2: a time with Gene Hackman and people are saying, he

1936
01:34:22,772 --> 01:34:23,852
Speaker 2: do you mean, how long does it take to die?

1937
01:34:23,893 --> 01:34:25,812
Speaker 2: Seven days is ages check in with your parents? And

1938
01:34:25,973 --> 01:34:28,492
Speaker 2: you know, Hasslingen Heckman's kid. But life can get in

1939
01:34:28,532 --> 01:34:30,412
Speaker 2: the way, yep, you know. And Gene Heckman didn't live

1940
01:34:30,452 --> 01:34:32,852
Speaker 2: by himself. He had his younger wife, she was sixty

1941
01:34:32,933 --> 01:34:34,892
Speaker 2: five of his ninety five. So I don't know if

1942
01:34:34,933 --> 01:34:38,452
Speaker 2: you can really hassle those kids. I mean, ideally, imagine

1943
01:34:38,492 --> 01:34:42,852
Speaker 2: that we were check in with pearents more than every

1944
01:34:42,933 --> 01:34:46,173
Speaker 2: seven days. But you know, you know something that really

1945
01:34:46,173 --> 01:34:49,133
Speaker 2: affected me. It was in August twenty twenty three. This

1946
01:34:49,293 --> 01:34:52,452
Speaker 2: was a headline in the Ittarga Daily Times reporting about

1947
01:34:52,452 --> 01:34:55,452
Speaker 2: the sorry state of the elderly in Dunedin. In one

1948
01:34:55,572 --> 01:34:59,892
Speaker 2: boarding house, tenants talked of elderly resident's body discovered days

1949
01:34:59,973 --> 01:35:03,692
Speaker 2: after their death, dissolved into their mattress. Oh man, that's

1950
01:35:04,093 --> 01:35:06,052
Speaker 2: abandoned in Dunedan was the name of the article.

1951
01:35:06,692 --> 01:35:09,372
Speaker 3: I mean, that is horrendous, isn't it.

1952
01:35:09,612 --> 01:35:11,812
Speaker 2: So no one checked on that person until they dissolved

1953
01:35:11,853 --> 01:35:15,452
Speaker 2: into the Mattress Japers. I mean that, Dame. I often

1954
01:35:15,452 --> 01:35:17,852
Speaker 2: think about that. Yeah, just just visiting my dad and

1955
01:35:17,933 --> 01:35:20,412
Speaker 2: Duneda and then just read this article in twenty twenty

1956
01:35:20,492 --> 01:35:22,333
Speaker 2: three and it just haunts me.

1957
01:35:22,612 --> 01:35:25,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, but just quickly going back to the checking in

1958
01:35:25,732 --> 01:35:28,532
Speaker 3: on your parents on a weekly basis. And granted mum

1959
01:35:28,933 --> 01:35:31,893
Speaker 3: is still relatively young, right in her early sixties, but

1960
01:35:32,652 --> 01:35:35,572
Speaker 3: I wouldn't always checking with her every week. But Mum

1961
01:35:35,732 --> 01:35:38,893
Speaker 3: is very good at alerting me to things going on

1962
01:35:39,013 --> 01:35:39,612
Speaker 3: in their life.

1963
01:35:39,812 --> 01:35:43,612
Speaker 2: You love, absolutely love Sharz. You know it sounds like

1964
01:35:43,652 --> 01:35:45,572
Speaker 2: you don't love Shares ANIMs. I love Shares Adams.

1965
01:35:45,732 --> 01:35:48,652
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she's great mum. Well, I did have

1966
01:35:48,732 --> 01:35:51,732
Speaker 3: an hour convo with her yesterday, just a head of

1967
01:35:51,973 --> 01:35:54,372
Speaker 3: after reading that story about Gene Hackman. I thought Jupe's

1968
01:35:54,372 --> 01:35:57,772
Speaker 3: being to catch up with Mum, but I think she

1969
01:35:58,293 --> 01:36:01,492
Speaker 3: takes the reins on that relationship. So she wants me

1970
01:36:01,612 --> 01:36:06,013
Speaker 3: to know something. She will ring me, but I need

1971
01:36:06,133 --> 01:36:06,932
Speaker 3: to ring her more.

1972
01:36:07,612 --> 01:36:14,652
Speaker 2: Yeah you do. You discussed me, Chris. She jeez, So

1973
01:36:15,412 --> 01:36:17,212
Speaker 2: how are you doing it? You've got a texting arrangement

1974
01:36:17,253 --> 01:36:17,692
Speaker 2: with your son?

1975
01:36:18,933 --> 01:36:23,213
Speaker 15: Yes, I'm a seventy one year old woman who after

1976
01:36:23,293 --> 01:36:26,932
Speaker 15: my partner died, I sold our great, big, two story,

1977
01:36:27,053 --> 01:36:31,532
Speaker 15: four bedroom lifestyle block and moved an hour away from

1978
01:36:31,572 --> 01:36:35,213
Speaker 15: a town out to Riversdale Beach, which is probably about

1979
01:36:35,253 --> 01:36:39,573
Speaker 15: forty five minutes. And I didn't. I sort of hesitated

1980
01:36:39,692 --> 01:36:42,612
Speaker 15: for a while because I sort of thought, well, living

1981
01:36:42,732 --> 01:36:45,612
Speaker 15: on my own, what's going to happen if something happens

1982
01:36:45,692 --> 01:36:48,173
Speaker 15: to me? But my son and I worked out a

1983
01:36:48,253 --> 01:36:50,572
Speaker 15: perfect thing. And I've been here for three months now

1984
01:36:51,253 --> 01:36:54,772
Speaker 15: and every morning as soon as soon as I wake up,

1985
01:36:54,853 --> 01:36:58,173
Speaker 15: I text him and say good morning, And within five

1986
01:36:58,253 --> 01:37:00,452
Speaker 15: minutes he text me back and says good morning.

1987
01:37:00,572 --> 01:37:01,812
Speaker 12: So we both know that.

1988
01:37:01,973 --> 01:37:03,572
Speaker 15: I'm up and about and I'm alive.

1989
01:37:03,973 --> 01:37:04,452
Speaker 3: It's nice.

1990
01:37:04,853 --> 01:37:08,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, it works perfect wells.

1991
01:37:08,333 --> 01:37:11,532
Speaker 15: Because it's not only family. It's not only family checking

1992
01:37:11,652 --> 01:37:14,452
Speaker 15: up on people. It's people like me who who are

1993
01:37:14,652 --> 01:37:17,933
Speaker 15: by themselves, and you do worry what happens if I

1994
01:37:18,053 --> 01:37:19,612
Speaker 15: fall down the steps or something.

1995
01:37:20,532 --> 01:37:22,333
Speaker 21: But yeah, so that.

1996
01:37:22,452 --> 01:37:23,612
Speaker 17: Works perfect for us.

1997
01:37:23,973 --> 01:37:26,972
Speaker 2: So there's just that that's the one text a day.

1998
01:37:27,133 --> 01:37:29,732
Speaker 2: So if you didn't respond one text a day, if

1999
01:37:29,772 --> 01:37:32,253
Speaker 2: you didn't respond to the text, then is there someone

2000
01:37:32,293 --> 01:37:35,092
Speaker 2: that he knows close by that he could and it's.

2001
01:37:35,013 --> 01:37:38,173
Speaker 15: Quite funny you should say that. About a month ago

2002
01:37:38,812 --> 01:37:42,972
Speaker 15: we had all two degrees in Votafone all went down

2003
01:37:44,452 --> 01:37:47,812
Speaker 15: and we had no cell phone coverage, and I thought, oh,

2004
01:37:47,973 --> 01:37:49,652
Speaker 15: how the heck am I going to let Scott know

2005
01:37:49,812 --> 01:37:54,093
Speaker 15: that I'm okay? In any case, After a.

2006
01:37:54,133 --> 01:37:55,572
Speaker 7: While, I thought, oh, this is stupid.

2007
01:37:55,612 --> 01:37:57,372
Speaker 15: I should just go down to the shop and use

2008
01:37:57,452 --> 01:38:00,452
Speaker 15: the landline, which I did do, and he was going

2009
01:38:00,532 --> 01:38:02,333
Speaker 15: to give it another ten minutes, and he was going

2010
01:38:02,372 --> 01:38:03,333
Speaker 15: to get in his car.

2011
01:38:03,293 --> 01:38:03,772
Speaker 8: And come out.

2012
01:38:04,732 --> 01:38:06,772
Speaker 2: So how long would the drive fee for him? If

2013
01:38:06,812 --> 01:38:10,532
Speaker 2: Scott did come out, your son about fifteen minutes, that's

2014
01:38:10,612 --> 01:38:12,893
Speaker 2: not too bad. And so that was no, it's not

2015
01:38:13,253 --> 01:38:15,772
Speaker 2: that was quite bold of you to move out there.

2016
01:38:15,812 --> 01:38:18,492
Speaker 2: What made you want to move? Obviously, Roversdale Beach is beautiful.

2017
01:38:20,372 --> 01:38:23,333
Speaker 15: I always wanted to live by the sea. I used

2018
01:38:23,372 --> 01:38:25,933
Speaker 15: to live by the sea and I always wanted to

2019
01:38:26,173 --> 01:38:30,572
Speaker 15: And my partner, he was a cancer sufferer, and he

2020
01:38:30,692 --> 01:38:32,372
Speaker 15: knew that he was going to die and he made

2021
01:38:32,412 --> 01:38:34,732
Speaker 15: me promise that I would still go and live by

2022
01:38:34,812 --> 01:38:35,253
Speaker 15: the sea.

2023
01:38:35,253 --> 01:38:36,133
Speaker 18: After he was gone.

2024
01:38:36,372 --> 01:38:38,412
Speaker 3: That's beautiful, that's yeah.

2025
01:38:38,853 --> 01:38:39,053
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2026
01:38:39,893 --> 01:38:42,012
Speaker 2: And have you have you met people out at Riversdale Beach?

2027
01:38:42,053 --> 01:38:42,932
Speaker 2: You've got mates out.

2028
01:38:42,812 --> 01:38:46,612
Speaker 15: There, Yes, yes, I have met a few. I find

2029
01:38:46,652 --> 01:38:49,572
Speaker 15: it hard to meet people because I've lived in the

2030
01:38:49,692 --> 01:38:51,692
Speaker 15: country all my life and I thought I even had

2031
01:38:51,772 --> 01:38:54,293
Speaker 15: people around me. But yes, I am starting to mix

2032
01:38:54,372 --> 01:38:55,732
Speaker 15: and mingle on you.

2033
01:38:56,572 --> 01:39:02,452
Speaker 2: I'm very heavy, yeah, very he sounded, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

2034
01:39:03,492 --> 01:39:06,372
Speaker 2: Absolutely beautiful spot. And that sounds like a good relationship

2035
01:39:06,492 --> 01:39:08,973
Speaker 2: and arranging you've got going with Scott. So god on

2036
01:39:09,013 --> 01:39:10,732
Speaker 2: Scott as well, Great New Zealander.

2037
01:39:12,492 --> 01:39:15,333
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you very much, Chris, wasn't she lovely?

2038
01:39:15,772 --> 01:39:15,852
Speaker 12: Oh?

2039
01:39:15,893 --> 01:39:18,652
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number of calls,

2040
01:39:18,652 --> 01:39:21,333
Speaker 3: some great techs coming through on nine to nine two.

2041
01:39:21,973 --> 01:39:25,532
Speaker 2: Sadly, in October twenty eighteen, this happened to me and

2042
01:39:25,612 --> 01:39:28,253
Speaker 2: my dear brother who lived in Christchurch. We had long

2043
01:39:28,372 --> 01:39:30,812
Speaker 2: catch up calls every two to three weeks and between

2044
01:39:30,853 --> 01:39:33,732
Speaker 2: he unexpectedly became very unwell. Then he collapsed when he

2045
01:39:33,812 --> 01:39:36,293
Speaker 2: finally made it to his front door. The hospital rang

2046
01:39:36,612 --> 01:39:39,372
Speaker 2: when he was admitted, and I spent eight days by

2047
01:39:39,412 --> 01:39:41,612
Speaker 2: his side before he passed. He was only sixty one.

2048
01:39:42,772 --> 01:39:43,772
Speaker 2: She worn from Omaru.

2049
01:39:44,492 --> 01:39:47,333
Speaker 3: Sorry to hear that she worn this one says, guys,

2050
01:39:47,372 --> 01:39:50,532
Speaker 3: theres a sixty something mum of adult sons, Tyler, I

2051
01:39:50,572 --> 01:39:53,213
Speaker 3: don't need chicking in on yet. Thanks. I still how

2052
01:39:53,213 --> 01:39:56,652
Speaker 3: about my kids? Maybe in twenty to thirty years I'll

2053
01:39:56,732 --> 01:39:58,692
Speaker 3: need checking in on a regular basis.

2054
01:39:58,772 --> 01:40:00,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking that. Actually, I was thinking that

2055
01:40:00,692 --> 01:40:03,053
Speaker 2: your mum probably would be more checking in on you

2056
01:40:04,093 --> 01:40:06,932
Speaker 2: and your road lifestyle. Yeah, especially that happens.

2057
01:40:06,973 --> 01:40:08,253
Speaker 3: She doesn't need to be bothered every week.

2058
01:40:08,652 --> 01:40:10,492
Speaker 2: No, but she should be worried about your behavior across

2059
01:40:10,532 --> 01:40:10,972
Speaker 2: the weekend.

2060
01:40:11,213 --> 01:40:11,772
Speaker 4: I heard it.

2061
01:40:12,013 --> 01:40:13,173
Speaker 2: I heard about you at the polo.

2062
01:40:13,452 --> 01:40:15,812
Speaker 3: That's why I had to catch up with her last night. Actually,

2063
01:40:15,893 --> 01:40:17,812
Speaker 3: she was just giving me in my place. Oh eight

2064
01:40:17,812 --> 01:40:20,452
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2065
01:40:20,612 --> 01:40:22,293
Speaker 3: It is twenty eight to four.

2066
01:40:24,492 --> 01:40:28,652
Speaker 13: You talk sad be headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's

2067
01:40:28,812 --> 01:40:33,052
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. Associate Education Minister David

2068
01:40:33,173 --> 01:40:37,572
Speaker 13: Seymour is promising school lunches will continue despite provider LaBelle

2069
01:40:37,652 --> 01:40:41,532
Speaker 13: Group going into liquidation. It says sensitive commercial matters are

2070
01:40:41,572 --> 01:40:44,732
Speaker 13: being worked through, but the record will show the government's

2071
01:40:44,812 --> 01:40:50,612
Speaker 13: handled this well. Cabinets agree to propose changes to drug classifications,

2072
01:40:50,973 --> 01:40:54,972
Speaker 13: including labeling fentanyl related drugs as Class A. It would

2073
01:40:55,013 --> 01:40:59,173
Speaker 13: increase manufacturing penalties to a maximum term of life in jail.

2074
01:41:00,293 --> 01:41:03,933
Speaker 13: The Veterinary Nursing Association says all will benefit from a

2075
01:41:04,093 --> 01:41:07,532
Speaker 13: rule change to let vet nurses remove pets. Pluck and

2076
01:41:07,652 --> 01:41:12,093
Speaker 13: Tata freeing up vets for more major procedures. Spark and

2077
01:41:12,173 --> 01:41:15,612
Speaker 13: two Degrees of both signed up with satellite manufacturer ast

2078
01:41:15,812 --> 01:41:19,612
Speaker 13: Space Mobile to increase coverage to anywhere with line of

2079
01:41:19,732 --> 01:41:24,093
Speaker 13: sight into the sky. Catman dou has signed a four

2080
01:41:24,173 --> 01:41:27,572
Speaker 13: year appareled partnership with our Olympic Committee to kit up

2081
01:41:27,612 --> 01:41:31,012
Speaker 13: New Zealand teams competing in future Olympic and Commonwealth Games.

2082
01:41:32,053 --> 01:41:37,173
Speaker 13: Tesla shares plunge as Elon Musk's political role grows more divisive.

2083
01:41:37,652 --> 01:41:39,973
Speaker 13: You can see more at enz and Herald Premium. Now

2084
01:41:40,133 --> 01:41:41,732
Speaker 13: back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2085
01:41:41,973 --> 01:41:44,213
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about checking

2086
01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:47,972
Speaker 3: in on your parents or grandparents. Plenty of phone calls

2087
01:41:48,013 --> 01:41:49,732
Speaker 3: to get to, but just a quick couple of texts

2088
01:41:49,772 --> 01:41:50,532
Speaker 3: that have come through.

2089
01:41:50,812 --> 01:41:54,452
Speaker 2: Fun fact. If you die locked inside your house with pets,

2090
01:41:54,492 --> 01:41:56,572
Speaker 2: the cats will eat you within a day, dogs will

2091
01:41:56,612 --> 01:41:59,412
Speaker 2: leave you around a week, and the labrador will be

2092
01:41:59,572 --> 01:42:03,452
Speaker 2: on its deathbed before its snacks. Yeah, I mean they've

2093
01:42:03,452 --> 01:42:05,372
Speaker 2: done those studies and that the cat will eat your nose.

2094
01:42:05,652 --> 01:42:08,293
Speaker 2: So with a cat, you are only a few heartbeat

2095
01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:10,972
Speaker 2: away from being food. To it, one point you're providing

2096
01:42:11,053 --> 01:42:13,412
Speaker 2: food and then you die and you become food. That's

2097
01:42:13,452 --> 01:42:15,093
Speaker 2: just how the cats see them will and it's I'm

2098
01:42:15,133 --> 01:42:17,333
Speaker 2: a dog man. Yeah, the dogs are the best of us.

2099
01:42:17,412 --> 01:42:20,013
Speaker 2: Can't repeat it. Yeah, I mean there's been some really

2100
01:42:20,053 --> 01:42:22,932
Speaker 2: interesting studies on this, and there was actually this major

2101
01:42:22,973 --> 01:42:24,973
Speaker 2: one where they're trying to work out this morgue, what

2102
01:42:25,173 --> 01:42:28,532
Speaker 2: was going on with the all the bodies having their

2103
01:42:28,572 --> 01:42:32,772
Speaker 2: noses but not This was in the States and on Colorado,

2104
01:42:33,333 --> 01:42:35,892
Speaker 2: and then they set up CCDV footage and found out

2105
01:42:35,933 --> 01:42:38,652
Speaker 2: that the local cats were just breaking into the morgue

2106
01:42:38,652 --> 01:42:40,213
Speaker 2: to have a little bite on the nose of the

2107
01:42:40,293 --> 01:42:40,812
Speaker 2: dead humans.

2108
01:42:40,853 --> 01:42:42,612
Speaker 3: How were they getting into the morgue? Someone leave a

2109
01:42:42,652 --> 01:42:43,772
Speaker 3: window open or something.

2110
01:42:43,933 --> 01:42:46,492
Speaker 2: That showed within a second, all black cat showed up

2111
01:42:46,572 --> 01:42:48,452
Speaker 2: the scene. The scientists allowed them to give it. Oh no,

2112
01:42:48,572 --> 01:42:50,932
Speaker 2: so the cats were they breached security.

2113
01:42:51,013 --> 01:42:51,452
Speaker 4: It just is.

2114
01:42:53,412 --> 01:42:55,092
Speaker 3: Lovely phrase.

2115
01:42:55,093 --> 01:43:00,213
Speaker 2: It doesn't exactly say how they breached security. Steve Steve

2116
01:43:00,253 --> 01:43:02,372
Speaker 2: Welc from the show You're looking after your grandparents.

2117
01:43:04,853 --> 01:43:07,652
Speaker 11: Well, I have a great auntie who lives to one

2118
01:43:07,692 --> 01:43:11,692
Speaker 11: hundred and three, and when we were living in Helton,

2119
01:43:11,732 --> 01:43:13,732
Speaker 11: we would call on on her. She was in her

2120
01:43:13,732 --> 01:43:16,333
Speaker 11: own home till she's one hundred and one, so we

2121
01:43:16,452 --> 01:43:20,133
Speaker 11: called her irredially more in the early days, just to

2122
01:43:20,213 --> 01:43:24,692
Speaker 11: see her and make sure that she's okay. But once

2123
01:43:24,772 --> 01:43:27,412
Speaker 11: we left Hamilton, my two sons went to university there

2124
01:43:27,572 --> 01:43:31,053
Speaker 11: and they did it. They just loved the connection was

2125
01:43:31,973 --> 01:43:35,772
Speaker 11: that age and that generation of our family. And as

2126
01:43:35,853 --> 01:43:38,412
Speaker 11: young twenty year old I was really you know, I

2127
01:43:38,572 --> 01:43:41,053
Speaker 11: really wrapped to the dad to see my sons. It's

2128
01:43:41,293 --> 01:43:43,772
Speaker 11: just enjoying and reving how important it was to do.

2129
01:43:44,572 --> 01:43:46,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's good to hear because I was actually

2130
01:43:46,572 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 2: running down us mean by saying that we're useless at

2131
01:43:49,372 --> 01:43:51,412
Speaker 2: checking in on people. But it sounds like you and

2132
01:43:51,532 --> 01:43:54,133
Speaker 2: your sons are proving me wrong there.

2133
01:43:55,612 --> 01:43:57,492
Speaker 11: I do it with my parents. I've run my parents

2134
01:43:57,572 --> 01:44:01,932
Speaker 11: every Sunday for thirty five years at seven o'clock pretty

2135
01:44:02,013 --> 01:44:05,333
Speaker 11: much from all around the world. My three sons bring

2136
01:44:05,412 --> 01:44:09,093
Speaker 11: them once a month to them overseas, and when they

2137
01:44:09,133 --> 01:44:11,452
Speaker 11: were in their fifties, is more about oh, how are

2138
01:44:11,452 --> 01:44:13,652
Speaker 11: you going, and then Dad's I've got some skin dents

2139
01:44:13,692 --> 01:44:15,333
Speaker 11: and you talk about all their makeu They're okay, But

2140
01:44:15,412 --> 01:44:18,372
Speaker 11: as they've got into their mid eighties, now it's me

2141
01:44:18,572 --> 01:44:22,053
Speaker 11: just checking in and they they don't even answer the

2142
01:44:22,133 --> 01:44:25,732
Speaker 11: phone like it's anybody else. It's hi, Steve at seven,

2143
01:44:25,772 --> 01:44:28,173
Speaker 11: I give you Sunday, and they know that I'm just

2144
01:44:28,293 --> 01:44:30,612
Speaker 11: checking in. And then my sisters. She does it twice

2145
01:44:30,692 --> 01:44:33,652
Speaker 11: during the week, and it's just that we are to them.

2146
01:44:33,692 --> 01:44:36,412
Speaker 11: They've done so much for us in our life, and

2147
01:44:37,492 --> 01:44:41,053
Speaker 11: actually I've come to absolutely love it. Sometimes it's a

2148
01:44:41,133 --> 01:44:44,972
Speaker 11: ten minute conversation, sometimes it's a forty minute conversation, depending

2149
01:44:44,973 --> 01:44:48,653
Speaker 11: on what's been happening. But it's just it's the worst

2150
01:44:48,652 --> 01:44:52,213
Speaker 11: scenario is not finding them when something's gone wrong. And

2151
01:44:52,293 --> 01:44:54,852
Speaker 11: that great heart at one hundred and one, the reason

2152
01:44:54,933 --> 01:44:58,452
Speaker 11: she left her house she fell going to the washing line,

2153
01:44:59,173 --> 01:45:02,092
Speaker 11: and she took eighty hours to crawl back into her house.

2154
01:45:01,933 --> 01:45:04,532
Speaker 4: From the washing Lil Wow, because she.

2155
01:45:04,933 --> 01:45:07,772
Speaker 11: Left her button that we brought her their emergency, you know,

2156
01:45:07,853 --> 01:45:10,852
Speaker 11: sir John Thing took eighty hours to crawl up the

2157
01:45:10,933 --> 01:45:13,652
Speaker 11: steps and into the house to push that button, and

2158
01:45:13,772 --> 01:45:18,052
Speaker 11: she was She's only forty five forty kilos and mate

2159
01:45:18,053 --> 01:45:21,333
Speaker 11: at that time, and she was frozen nearly died, and

2160
01:45:21,412 --> 01:45:25,093
Speaker 11: that really wiped the family up as well. And that's

2161
01:45:25,173 --> 01:45:28,093
Speaker 11: why that's why it's so important, you know, and like

2162
01:45:28,213 --> 01:45:32,052
Speaker 11: you being so far away, it's just those quick calls.

2163
01:45:32,973 --> 01:45:35,133
Speaker 11: My parents are not in the sac that's scared by

2164
01:45:35,452 --> 01:45:39,012
Speaker 11: Facebook and all that sort of stuff, which just fine,

2165
01:45:39,572 --> 01:45:41,732
Speaker 11: and we communicate with him like that as well. So

2166
01:45:42,372 --> 01:45:45,333
Speaker 11: you're just keeping tad's you know, if one's not feeling well,

2167
01:45:45,452 --> 01:45:49,093
Speaker 11: I'll mention to my sister and she'll call around if

2168
01:45:49,133 --> 01:45:51,173
Speaker 11: she can type thing. I don't know what we're going

2169
01:45:51,213 --> 01:45:52,612
Speaker 11: to do. And they get old enough to go to

2170
01:45:52,692 --> 01:45:54,932
Speaker 11: homes because they don't really want to go into homes,

2171
01:45:54,973 --> 01:45:55,732
Speaker 11: but I don't imagine.

2172
01:45:55,893 --> 01:46:00,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the same. That's tough conversation about any child.

2173
01:46:01,412 --> 01:46:04,053
Speaker 3: I thank you, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I have.

2174
01:46:04,093 --> 01:46:05,053
Speaker 5: An idea what we're going to do.

2175
01:46:05,293 --> 01:46:07,372
Speaker 2: Steve. You're a very good person and it's great to

2176
01:46:07,412 --> 01:46:08,852
Speaker 2: talk to you. I've got a question for you. When

2177
01:46:08,893 --> 01:46:10,612
Speaker 2: you talk to you. Back in the day, when you

2178
01:46:10,652 --> 01:46:12,492
Speaker 2: were talking to your parents, you'd bring up and you

2179
01:46:12,612 --> 01:46:15,652
Speaker 2: talk to your mom and then because this is the

2180
01:46:15,692 --> 01:46:17,652
Speaker 2: way it normally goes, right, you talk to your mom

2181
01:46:17,692 --> 01:46:19,412
Speaker 2: for a long time, and then she goes, you've got

2182
01:46:19,492 --> 01:46:20,812
Speaker 2: to talk. Do you want to talk to your dad?

2183
01:46:20,853 --> 01:46:23,372
Speaker 2: And you go, and then dad will jump on and

2184
01:46:23,452 --> 01:46:25,532
Speaker 2: then you'll talk for about three seconds and then he'll go,

2185
01:46:25,612 --> 01:46:27,333
Speaker 2: you seem busy. I'll let you get.

2186
01:46:28,772 --> 01:46:28,973
Speaker 4: You know.

2187
01:46:30,732 --> 01:46:31,253
Speaker 7: A little bit.

2188
01:46:31,412 --> 01:46:35,612
Speaker 11: But my father life so different. But what happened was

2189
01:46:35,812 --> 01:46:39,013
Speaker 11: I would seek head advice when I was younger, and

2190
01:46:39,133 --> 01:46:42,572
Speaker 11: that that was the base of the conversation. And for

2191
01:46:42,652 --> 01:46:44,772
Speaker 11: the last twenty years since he's been retired, it's the

2192
01:46:44,812 --> 01:46:45,612
Speaker 11: opposite way around.

2193
01:46:45,812 --> 01:46:47,452
Speaker 18: Yeah, you don't buy anything or do.

2194
01:46:47,532 --> 01:46:49,972
Speaker 11: Anything without just having Oh what do you think, Steve?

2195
01:46:50,173 --> 01:46:52,932
Speaker 11: You know, although he knows it all, he's an incredibly

2196
01:46:53,013 --> 01:46:57,053
Speaker 11: intelligent guy. But it develops your relationship with with your

2197
01:46:57,213 --> 01:47:01,492
Speaker 11: parents as well because you're forced to it. I decided

2198
01:47:01,532 --> 01:47:03,213
Speaker 11: to just wanted to my father in La got so

2199
01:47:03,452 --> 01:47:06,333
Speaker 11: much closer by just having a chat about you know,

2200
01:47:06,372 --> 01:47:08,333
Speaker 11: he's on seventeen acres of land and he's giving up

2201
01:47:08,372 --> 01:47:10,732
Speaker 11: the animals down. You'll tell me about this and that,

2202
01:47:10,893 --> 01:47:12,572
Speaker 11: and now I've got chickens And Ike said, oh, you know,

2203
01:47:13,333 --> 01:47:15,452
Speaker 11: I got one that's playing one hundred and ten grand eggs,

2204
01:47:15,492 --> 01:47:17,173
Speaker 11: and then the problems I need to what am I

2205
01:47:17,253 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 11: doing wrong? Is that that matter? And she's says, no,

2206
01:47:21,412 --> 01:47:23,612
Speaker 11: you just got a freak one that you know, she

2207
01:47:23,812 --> 01:47:25,732
Speaker 11: just produces them. I said, it's every day you must

2208
01:47:26,053 --> 01:47:29,652
Speaker 11: know you might be screaming. So you just developed that

2209
01:47:29,732 --> 01:47:33,372
Speaker 11: relationship and it's it's just me checking in getting a

2210
01:47:33,452 --> 01:47:35,412
Speaker 11: sense of I and that he sounds really good for

2211
01:47:35,572 --> 01:47:39,852
Speaker 11: his he's really you know, like COVID, they were so scared, yeah,

2212
01:47:40,053 --> 01:47:42,412
Speaker 11: and we couldn't do anything. So the conversations then were

2213
01:47:42,532 --> 01:47:45,253
Speaker 11: really important. They were much more often just to give

2214
01:47:45,293 --> 01:47:47,932
Speaker 11: them the comfort you know that they're doing the right thing.

2215
01:47:48,133 --> 01:47:50,013
Speaker 2: Well, you're getting exam big. You need to get a

2216
01:47:50,532 --> 01:47:54,173
Speaker 2: cock in there and get the get that breeding and

2217
01:47:54,293 --> 01:47:57,093
Speaker 2: get those that begin begin get get that big en

2218
01:47:57,173 --> 01:47:57,932
Speaker 2: to hatch the eggs.

2219
01:47:58,893 --> 01:48:01,372
Speaker 11: I've just put colored tags on the leg so I

2220
01:48:01,572 --> 01:48:05,652
Speaker 11: identify which one of us. Yeah makes you you kept

2221
01:48:05,692 --> 01:48:08,812
Speaker 11: get as scary to holders and on them like that.

2222
01:48:10,372 --> 01:48:12,333
Speaker 11: You work at one hundred and two grands at your

2223
01:48:12,612 --> 01:48:13,812
Speaker 11: sticks when you go home and.

2224
01:48:15,293 --> 01:48:17,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that that that chicken needs to breed. We

2225
01:48:17,933 --> 01:48:20,053
Speaker 2: need more one hundred and ten grand eggs. Hey, thank

2226
01:48:20,093 --> 01:48:22,732
Speaker 2: you so much for call Steven and you you're a

2227
01:48:22,812 --> 01:48:23,173
Speaker 2: good man.

2228
01:48:25,173 --> 01:48:27,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that you're quite right on the old

2229
01:48:27,213 --> 01:48:30,372
Speaker 3: man situation. And like Steve, I've got to say, Dad

2230
01:48:30,492 --> 01:48:32,293
Speaker 3: love him to bits, but he's got a lot more

2231
01:48:32,412 --> 01:48:35,732
Speaker 3: chatty since he started to Seemi retires. He's still doing

2232
01:48:35,772 --> 01:48:38,213
Speaker 3: a bit of work. But you know, back back when

2233
01:48:38,253 --> 01:48:41,213
Speaker 3: I was at Unis, Dad, how's life, how's work?

2234
01:48:41,532 --> 01:48:41,732
Speaker 7: Yep?

2235
01:48:41,772 --> 01:48:43,132
Speaker 3: Busy? How's Journie?

2236
01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:43,452
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2237
01:48:43,452 --> 01:48:46,852
Speaker 3: Pretty good, Dad. But luckily he's got I've got some

2238
01:48:47,013 --> 01:48:50,013
Speaker 3: step brothers and sisters, Isaac and Holly, and so I

2239
01:48:50,053 --> 01:48:53,333
Speaker 3: could ask how's Isaac? Yeah he's good. How's Holly? Yeah

2240
01:48:53,372 --> 01:48:56,253
Speaker 3: she's good? Okay Dad, all right, well Jenn again next week.

2241
01:48:56,372 --> 01:48:56,572
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2242
01:48:56,652 --> 01:48:56,812
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2243
01:48:56,853 --> 01:48:58,253
Speaker 2: Back in the day in my chats with my mum

2244
01:48:58,253 --> 01:49:00,213
Speaker 2: would be forty five minutes and Dad would be about

2245
01:49:00,253 --> 01:49:03,532
Speaker 2: forty five seconds. Yes, I'm good. Good to hear from

2246
01:49:03,572 --> 01:49:05,852
Speaker 2: your Good to hear from your Matthew, Good to hear

2247
01:49:05,893 --> 01:49:07,932
Speaker 2: from you. Anyway, you seem busy all that you get now,

2248
01:49:07,973 --> 01:49:09,732
Speaker 2: I mean my dad chat on the phone for like

2249
01:49:09,812 --> 01:49:11,253
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. We've flipped it around.

2250
01:49:11,333 --> 01:49:13,333
Speaker 3: Yeah too good, right, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

2251
01:49:13,372 --> 01:49:15,093
Speaker 3: eighties and I'm going to call sixteen to.

2252
01:49:15,253 --> 01:49:19,253
Speaker 4: Four, your new home of afternoon talk.

2253
01:49:19,572 --> 01:49:23,372
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety turn

2254
01:49:23,452 --> 01:49:25,172
Speaker 1: every journey into something special.

2255
01:49:25,333 --> 01:49:28,052
Speaker 4: Call Oh eight hundred eighty News Talk.

2256
01:49:27,933 --> 01:49:30,973
Speaker 3: Said, be good afternoon. We're chatting about how often you

2257
01:49:31,133 --> 01:49:34,492
Speaker 3: check on your parents or grandparents. Plenty of great techs

2258
01:49:34,532 --> 01:49:37,212
Speaker 3: coming through. But Trina, how are you this afternoon?

2259
01:49:38,732 --> 01:49:39,173
Speaker 12: We're chating?

2260
01:49:40,133 --> 01:49:41,213
Speaker 2: Hey, Trina? Are you there?

2261
01:49:42,973 --> 01:49:43,133
Speaker 7: Oh?

2262
01:49:43,372 --> 01:49:46,532
Speaker 3: Trina? Now we might just put Trina back to Andrew.

2263
01:49:47,372 --> 01:49:49,173
Speaker 2: Treena's listening to us and there's a delay, so we're

2264
01:49:49,213 --> 01:49:51,092
Speaker 2: listening back to us, which isn't great radio really.

2265
01:49:51,093 --> 01:49:53,572
Speaker 3: No, but we will come back to Trina very shortly.

2266
01:49:53,732 --> 01:49:55,812
Speaker 3: A quick couple of ticks here, guys, I think it's

2267
01:49:55,853 --> 01:49:59,772
Speaker 3: important to contact your parents every second day and expect

2268
01:49:59,853 --> 01:50:01,972
Speaker 3: a reply of texting yeah, that's nice.

2269
01:50:01,893 --> 01:50:03,972
Speaker 2: Every second day. I mean, as you say, it depends

2270
01:50:04,013 --> 01:50:06,212
Speaker 2: how old your parents are. If they're in their fifties,

2271
01:50:06,853 --> 01:50:09,652
Speaker 2: you probably you probably might start petrizing if you're texting

2272
01:50:09,692 --> 01:50:11,293
Speaker 2: them every second day saying are you okay?

2273
01:50:11,532 --> 01:50:15,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might know yeah, Whereas if they're in their eighties, yeah, they.

2274
01:50:15,452 --> 01:50:17,253
Speaker 2: Might make a think it's a very different thing.

2275
01:50:17,372 --> 01:50:19,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, Or I think we've got Trina Beck, Hey you, Trina,

2276
01:50:20,812 --> 01:50:22,053
Speaker 3: Hi there, how are you good?

2277
01:50:22,572 --> 01:50:24,372
Speaker 2: Ye think you you think we can worry too much?

2278
01:50:25,973 --> 01:50:28,133
Speaker 21: Well, I do to certain then. I mean, I'm a

2279
01:50:28,213 --> 01:50:31,092
Speaker 21: mum ad sixty, still work full time, got children, adult

2280
01:50:31,173 --> 01:50:33,732
Speaker 21: children and grandchildren. But at the end of the day,

2281
01:50:33,732 --> 01:50:36,253
Speaker 21: it doesn't matter what kind of plan you have in place.

2282
01:50:36,293 --> 01:50:38,493
Speaker 21: I mean, you could talk to your parents or grandpardents

2283
01:50:38,532 --> 01:50:41,253
Speaker 21: at ten o'clock in the morning, and at eleven o'clock

2284
01:50:41,333 --> 01:50:44,692
Speaker 21: something nasty could happen to them. So I don't think,

2285
01:50:44,812 --> 01:50:47,212
Speaker 21: you know, the likes of Gene Hackman's children have anything

2286
01:50:47,333 --> 01:50:50,732
Speaker 21: to concern themselves about. I think we just have to

2287
01:50:50,772 --> 01:50:52,812
Speaker 21: be realistic about how life works.

2288
01:50:53,133 --> 01:50:55,012
Speaker 4: Yeah, an adult.

2289
01:50:55,293 --> 01:50:59,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't exactly saying Trina that they should feel

2290
01:50:59,612 --> 01:51:01,612
Speaker 2: bad about it, but that they probably still would. You know,

2291
01:51:01,732 --> 01:51:05,173
Speaker 2: they probably think if only I had wrung you know,

2292
01:51:05,333 --> 01:51:05,852
Speaker 2: even though.

2293
01:51:05,732 --> 01:51:08,253
Speaker 21: You well, I guess you know, if somebody had said,

2294
01:51:08,412 --> 01:51:10,053
Speaker 21: you know, I could have called twice a day or

2295
01:51:10,133 --> 01:51:12,372
Speaker 21: three times a day, or you know, you can take

2296
01:51:12,412 --> 01:51:15,133
Speaker 21: that to the n degree. But another reason is that

2297
01:51:15,173 --> 01:51:18,252
Speaker 21: you know, there are a lot of families, not mine included, thankfully,

2298
01:51:18,372 --> 01:51:20,452
Speaker 21: but there are a lot of families who, for very

2299
01:51:20,492 --> 01:51:24,213
Speaker 21: good reasons, don't keep in touch. Yeah, you know, so

2300
01:51:24,532 --> 01:51:26,812
Speaker 21: it's just unfortunate facts of life.

2301
01:51:27,013 --> 01:51:27,213
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2302
01:51:27,612 --> 01:51:29,852
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, you're you're you're in your sixties.

2303
01:51:29,893 --> 01:51:32,733
Speaker 2: You're still in the caring stage as opposed.

2304
01:51:32,372 --> 01:51:34,372
Speaker 12: To the being I'm in my sixties.

2305
01:51:34,412 --> 01:51:37,293
Speaker 21: I'm in my mid sixties, so but I am still

2306
01:51:37,333 --> 01:51:41,213
Speaker 21: in the caring stage. They're looking after rather than after grandchildren.

2307
01:51:41,372 --> 01:51:45,013
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so, but but when you're say, you know,

2308
01:51:45,093 --> 01:51:49,253
Speaker 2: and when you're in your eighties, you would you expect

2309
01:51:49,293 --> 01:51:52,772
Speaker 2: your parents your kids to you know, contact you every

2310
01:51:52,812 --> 01:51:54,492
Speaker 2: couple of days every.

2311
01:51:54,333 --> 01:51:56,372
Speaker 21: Week, not unless they wanted to.

2312
01:51:57,173 --> 01:51:58,853
Speaker 8: No expectation.

2313
01:51:59,253 --> 01:52:00,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, would would you like it?

2314
01:52:00,572 --> 01:52:00,732
Speaker 10: Though?

2315
01:52:01,973 --> 01:52:02,093
Speaker 12: Oh?

2316
01:52:02,173 --> 01:52:02,772
Speaker 17: It would be nice.

2317
01:52:02,812 --> 01:52:04,372
Speaker 21: Depends on what they want me for.

2318
01:52:04,692 --> 01:52:05,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

2319
01:52:06,213 --> 01:52:07,492
Speaker 17: They just can't money.

2320
01:52:07,532 --> 01:52:10,333
Speaker 2: Definitely conting you for money.

2321
01:52:10,572 --> 01:52:11,772
Speaker 3: Mom? Can I borrow some money?

2322
01:52:11,893 --> 01:52:12,093
Speaker 21: Yeah?

2323
01:52:12,372 --> 01:52:14,692
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, mum, can you babysit?

2324
01:52:15,372 --> 01:52:15,572
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2325
01:52:15,652 --> 01:52:15,852
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2326
01:52:15,853 --> 01:52:18,093
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing as well, as they could

2327
01:52:18,133 --> 01:52:20,053
Speaker 2: be seen as a patronizing sort of part to it

2328
01:52:20,093 --> 01:52:24,812
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah you're okay, yeah, yeah, you know, but

2329
01:52:24,933 --> 01:52:26,293
Speaker 2: that's why, like you know, a lot of people say

2330
01:52:26,372 --> 01:52:28,973
Speaker 2: that they enjoy talking to the and keep catching up

2331
01:52:29,013 --> 01:52:31,892
Speaker 2: with their parents and grandparents and then that's a good thing. Hey, Trina,

2332
01:52:31,933 --> 01:52:35,133
Speaker 2: you have the most beautiful accent and voice. Congratulations on that,

2333
01:52:35,333 --> 01:52:35,932
Speaker 2: well done.

2334
01:52:36,253 --> 01:52:39,093
Speaker 21: Thank you, Thanks twenty five and twenty five years in

2335
01:52:39,093 --> 01:52:40,412
Speaker 21: the music one hasn't robbed it off.

2336
01:52:41,293 --> 01:52:44,692
Speaker 3: And I could hazard a guess where your excents from,

2337
01:52:44,732 --> 01:52:47,492
Speaker 3: but I won't tell us. Where are you? Where are

2338
01:52:47,532 --> 01:52:48,213
Speaker 3: you originally from?

2339
01:52:49,213 --> 01:52:53,173
Speaker 21: Well, I'm from Scotland, brought up and safe. Yeah, between

2340
01:52:53,293 --> 01:52:54,012
Speaker 21: Edra and Dundee.

2341
01:52:54,213 --> 01:52:57,053
Speaker 2: Lovely, So that's that's a great accent. So you've got

2342
01:52:57,253 --> 01:52:59,732
Speaker 2: some Scottish and then you throw you know, a couple

2343
01:52:59,772 --> 01:53:02,492
Speaker 2: of decades of New Zealand just infiltraining just a little bit,

2344
01:53:02,492 --> 01:53:02,892
Speaker 2: and you've got.

2345
01:53:02,853 --> 01:53:05,653
Speaker 21: An where I've got lovely kywe grandchildren?

2346
01:53:05,732 --> 01:53:06,732
Speaker 3: Now can you talk?

2347
01:53:06,732 --> 01:53:06,972
Speaker 17: Too?

2348
01:53:07,253 --> 01:53:08,812
Speaker 21: Weak to dancing with my own oldest one?

2349
01:53:09,173 --> 01:53:11,572
Speaker 2: When you talk to people back in Scotland, do they

2350
01:53:11,812 --> 01:53:12,972
Speaker 2: think that you've got a qi accent?

2351
01:53:13,053 --> 01:53:13,133
Speaker 17: Now?

2352
01:53:14,572 --> 01:53:17,093
Speaker 21: Yes, we started to get that inflection at the end

2353
01:53:17,133 --> 01:53:19,012
Speaker 21: of a sentence. You know, everything raises.

2354
01:53:22,013 --> 01:53:23,293
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your called Trina.

2355
01:53:23,612 --> 01:53:24,612
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

2356
01:53:25,612 --> 01:53:25,852
Speaker 20: Dave.

2357
01:53:25,973 --> 01:53:26,932
Speaker 3: How are you this afternoon?

2358
01:53:28,253 --> 01:53:29,173
Speaker 7: Ye're doing good? Guys?

2359
01:53:29,213 --> 01:53:29,452
Speaker 21: How are you?

2360
01:53:29,732 --> 01:53:29,932
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2361
01:53:29,973 --> 01:53:30,133
Speaker 12: Good?

2362
01:53:30,173 --> 01:53:31,932
Speaker 3: You want to have a chat about contacting your mum.

2363
01:53:32,853 --> 01:53:36,173
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, First of all, you'll be pleased to know

2364
01:53:36,372 --> 01:53:37,372
Speaker 7: that she doesn't have a cat.

2365
01:53:37,973 --> 01:53:38,932
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, good.

2366
01:53:39,652 --> 01:53:42,333
Speaker 7: You'll get to kids in those.

2367
01:53:44,452 --> 01:53:44,933
Speaker 5: What would you do?

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Speaker 2: What would you do to the cat? If you turn

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Speaker 2: up and the noses missing? That cat's getting a boot, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and a plug for the boys. I've got two

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Speaker 7: brothers and my older brother lives just around the road

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Speaker 7: from my mum and he had us a few years ago,

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Speaker 7: so he needs to walk a couple of times a

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Speaker 7: week and walks his dog, so chicks and on mum

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Speaker 7: as he does that usually for a free cup of

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Speaker 7: coffee and a free read of a newspaper, but that's okay.

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Speaker 7: Sunday nights, my old my younger brother rings mom. He

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Speaker 7: lives in christ Church. She's and Bob's girl. He rings,

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Speaker 7: checks him with her and checks him for her grocery order,

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Speaker 7: which he does online for her and pays for Mondays

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Speaker 7: in my lunch break, I ring every week and we

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Speaker 7: just have a check in chat for half an hour

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Speaker 7: while I have lunch. Tuesdays, the groceries are delivered, so

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Speaker 7: she's checked in on then by the countdown grocery delivery guy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Wednesdays, the cleaner turns up, so she's checked in there.

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Speaker 7: Friday's the hairdresser comes to do her trailers, bring the

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Speaker 7: church on Sunday, and my older brother picks her up

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Speaker 7: and delivers her to church and takes her home again

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Speaker 7: afterwards on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: You guys have got it, sus.

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Speaker 2: That's a good schedule. Yeah, it's a solid schedule.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. But the best part of the whole story for

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Speaker 7: me is pizza tea night.

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Speaker 3: Pizza tea night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. So my mom, the grandma to my daughter and

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Speaker 7: her husband and the cousins down there, she invites them

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Speaker 7: for pizza tea night on the first Monday every month.

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Speaker 7: It costs her one hundred bucks or so for the pizza,

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Speaker 7: but they all turn up. They spend a couple of

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Speaker 7: hours with her, They eat pizza around her dinner table

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Speaker 7: and still with grandma. Yeah, every month.

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Speaker 3: That's love, beautiful thing. David, Yeah, very nice, right, beg

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about checking in with your elderly relatives

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Speaker 2: after the Gene Hackman passing tragic, and I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to say one thing, you know. You know that the

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Speaker 2: last time I talked to my mum BEFO before she died.

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Speaker 12: Yep.

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Speaker 2: We've talked for millions and millions of words in our life,

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Speaker 2: but the last three words I over said to her

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Speaker 2: was I love you, mum. And that was so important

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Speaker 2: to me. Two days before she died that we had

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Speaker 2: this beautiful conversation together and it was a bit of

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Speaker 2: an argument for forty five minutes, but it ended with

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Speaker 2: I love you, mum. And you know you don't want

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Speaker 2: to you don't want them to pass without getting to

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Speaker 2: say that to them. So it's good to stay in touch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very wise words to finish that chat. Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much for today, really enjoyed it. We'll do it

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Speaker 3: all again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So until then, give granny a ring. All right, okay, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, see you then.

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