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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast.

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Speaker 2: And this podcast going forward will feature all the bits

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Speaker 2: from the show cut together, but also a little bit

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Speaker 2: at the start, like this, a little bit of bonus

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Speaker 2: bespoke material, extra content just for.

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Speaker 3: You, a few yarns, a few teasers that we couldn't

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Speaker 3: get out on the show today. And there's what there

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Speaker 3: was a beauty that you really talkedout making you really talked.

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Speaker 2: I was frustrated, Tyler, because I wanted to share this

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Speaker 2: story and no, I wanted to hear it, so it

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Speaker 2: has to go out into this this forum here.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to tease a tease and we'll get

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Speaker 3: to that a little bit later. No, no, we're going

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Speaker 3: to get to that right at the end of this intro.

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Speaker 3: Really aviation chat. That was great chat. Aviation security really

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Speaker 3: enjoyed that. Focused a lot on batteries.

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Speaker 2: In the end, it did actually get get sort of

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Speaker 2: bit waylaid with batteries. Everyone was really interested and you're

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Speaker 2: listening batteries and why you weren't out on the on

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Speaker 2: the on the plane, I was accused by one caller.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the word it was, but being

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Speaker 2: a bit not glib. There's a word for it, being

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Speaker 2: a bit blase. A was the word around airplane safety.

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Speaker 3: But in the dangers of batteries. Lien to that and

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Speaker 2: And this is another thing I'll do on the start

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Speaker 3: If you like in the sound of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if there's a caller that says something that I

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Speaker 3: I'll throw it in here. Okay, Well here's your chance.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to play em. So, Matt, you know

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Speaker 3: you've been joking around about batteries, but batteries are no joke.

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Speaker 3: You know, they can start a fire on a plane,

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Speaker 3: What is your repast?

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Speaker 4: Get out as if to AA batteries or any kind

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Speaker 3: To AA batteries on a plane.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you call the name that I can't remember now,

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Speaker 3: You call em a great caller, and that's what That's

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Speaker 4: But come on on, two AA batteries, rub them together.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're going to stop us from taking flints

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Speaker 2: I think we're just a bit airring on the side

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Speaker 4: It's going to be well worth with the weight.

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Speaker 2: Although there is accusations that I got the country of

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Speaker 2: And then we got we got deep into boys trip

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Speaker 3: Some great calls on that, some great stories about lads

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Speaker 2: I mean, a boy strip can be a girl strip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can take it too far, and you

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get in there, but there wasn't time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Well that is the intro and here

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Speaker 5: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons new for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four news talk Zibby.

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Speaker 3: Well, get a welcome into the show. Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 3: with you until four pm. Get a mate, Get a mate.

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Speaker 2: So, second week of doing the show, seventh show. Actually,

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Speaker 3: Some lessens. We're both learning together on this journey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing we'll be doing, is we mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so, and there'll be a punishment. I was

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Speaker 3: Boyd severe but fear some would argue, many would argue.

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Speaker 2: And and I think if I bad boy, then I

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Speaker 4: So I think that's probably the best way.

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Speaker 2: A man is for advice after his girlfriend has forbade

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Speaker 2: do you support your partner going away and ripping it

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Speaker 2: That's a very important topic in these days of social isolation.

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Speaker 2: I think it's very important that people keep friend groups

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Speaker 2: going and spend time outside their relationship. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: talk about the Almanac after two o'clock. Our fresco dining

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Speaker 3: Christ you just do it? Wellington do it? Just give

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, the primary job of a council is

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Speaker 2: we can get out and about sitting at cafes and

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Speaker 4: The better.

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Speaker 2: Hospital employs people, It gets people together, So councils should

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Speaker 2: not be looking at finding them for it. They should

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Speaker 3: In my humble opinion, Tyler, that's a beautiful opinion. That's

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock. Right now, Transport Minister Simon Brown is

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Speaker 3: the government, largely funded through fees paid by passengers when

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people listening right now would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whether it is outsourced or not. I think the

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Speaker 2: what could what could they do better? Now, whether they're

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Speaker 3: I see a lack of consistency. That's the big one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that seems ridiculous to me. And

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Speaker 4: Anyway, what do you think? What inefficiencies do you see

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Speaker 3: It is twelve past one, back very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 5: Mat Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 1: Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US Talk said, be it's.

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Speaker 3: A quarter past one. You're listening to Madam Tyler. What

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call Blair.

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Speaker 6: How are you hello, Tyler? How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: God? Nice to chat again my friend.

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Speaker 6: Up in the big smoke now living the dream.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good vibe up Pable.

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Speaker 6: I've got to say, I don't know if I'd consider

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Speaker 3: There, but quietly fair enough, Aviation Security inconsistent.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just say hello, Matt, welcome in.

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Speaker 4: Oh hello, bleir, how are you? We are living the

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Speaker 3: But you can live the dream anywhere in this fantastic

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 6: Improvements and consistency I think is probably the key. You know,

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Speaker 6: when you get allowed to take a single or my

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Speaker 6: daughter in law is allowed to take a single action

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Speaker 6: you can't have a single action lighter and you've got

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Speaker 6: good enough to fly up there, surely it's good enough

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Speaker 2: The whole Would you would and the whole blear? Would

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Speaker 6: It wasn't that it was a lighter. It was the

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't really know. I mean, I guess if

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Speaker 6: dual action. If you're just talking about a like a

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Speaker 6: I guess that's what they would call a single action.

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Speaker 2: So you're allowed, you're allowed a duel action, but not

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Speaker 2: a single action, correct, man, I reckon I could do

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Speaker 2: a lot more damage with a duel election is a

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I just but the thing is if

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I mean, I talk And this

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Speaker 3: but I'm not allowed a small double it.

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Speaker 2: So it's the idea in the battery that you are

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Speaker 2: the battery might be something that they don't know what

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Speaker 3: I didn't ask questions at that point because you don't

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Speaker 4: Please, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Furious I suppose.

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Speaker 6: I mean, were they lithiums or were they just like ads,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also I mean you've got your cell phone battery,

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Speaker 2: whole lot of batteries on there already. Perhaps we could

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Speaker 2: if Tyler Adams is allowed to just take a couple

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Speaker 3: So I am what you would take on it?

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Speaker 9: Hi, Tyler?

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Speaker 10: Hello, Hey, I'm flying tomorrow actually to Auckland. Now, every

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Speaker 3: Yeah they were rolling loose. I forgot those batteries were

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Speaker 10: But Tyler, how could you forget it?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I know, Diane, I know, shame on me. And

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Speaker 3: I was made to pay by evsick they you know,

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Speaker 3: So if they are in a package all good. If

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's no. It's good to talk to you

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Speaker 3: Yes, Diane. And where you're flying to this time? So, Matt,

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Speaker 3: Is it another cruise, Diane?

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Speaker 10: No, No, I'm just going up to spend a week

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Speaker 3: Yes you do, Diane, Thank you very much. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: just looking this up here.

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Speaker 2: I think you've been I think you've been robbed here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you've been robbed there, Tyler. I'm just a

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Speaker 4: So you had two lithium batteries. Yeah, ah, you've been ribed.

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Speaker 3: You can one twos two grams.

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Speaker 2: You can take to two non spillable batteries and your

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Speaker 3: I can get you. I can get that. Someone taking

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Speaker 3: no noe O one hundred and eighty ten eighty What

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Speaker 3: It's twenty one past one.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the Mike asking breakfast.

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Speaker 11: The Prime Minister whll Us Christopher Luxom trans Tasman Resources,

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Speaker 11: who are one of the people on the short list,

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Speaker 11: that looks good. I'll put them on the list. Once

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Speaker 11: Are you in trouble with this?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 12: I mean we've got to grow this country. You've got

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Speaker 11: I claim I'm making a billion dollars, and then two

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Speaker 11: going to make a billion dollars. Did I make it up?

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Speaker 11: Or did I make just a bit of a whoopsie?

439
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Speaker 11: But I well, never mind, I'm on the shortlist.

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Speaker 12: Well, Mike, I'm not going to go into the individual

441
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Speaker 12: cases that are in those fast tracks.

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Speaker 11: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mike Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 11: Mayley's Real Estate Newstalk Z.

444
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Speaker 3: Beat's twenty four past one.

445
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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're deep into Tyler Adams battery gate here.

446
00:19:37,453 --> 00:19:40,093
Speaker 2: So he says he's been pulicided for taking two AA

447
00:19:40,173 --> 00:19:43,773
Speaker 2: Leftian patries and they've been confiscated on you at a

448
00:19:43,773 --> 00:19:45,173
Speaker 2: domestic flight from Christia'stalkland.

449
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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

450
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Speaker 7: It has?

451
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Speaker 4: So I'm looking at the quick battery guide for flights here, Tyler,

452
00:19:49,213 --> 00:19:52,653
Speaker 4: you can bring up to fifteen personal electronic devices on board.

453
00:19:52,813 --> 00:19:56,893
Speaker 4: Who has fifteen first electronic devices they need to bring aboard?

454
00:19:57,013 --> 00:19:59,933
Speaker 4: You can pack up to twenty spear batteries and power packs.

455
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Speaker 4: They must be in your carry on bags.

456
00:20:01,973 --> 00:20:05,413
Speaker 2: A pacemaker doesn't count towards your electronic device limit.

457
00:20:05,493 --> 00:20:08,053
Speaker 3: That's fair. If you have a power wheelchair and mobility aid.

458
00:20:08,653 --> 00:20:09,253
Speaker 3: That's all good.

459
00:20:09,573 --> 00:20:12,173
Speaker 2: Police pack your advices so they're protected from damage, keep

460
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Speaker 2: away from metal objects like jeweler ends up as and

461
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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So I think, I think

462
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Speaker 2: you've been unfairly targeted for taking two with the in

463
00:20:19,213 --> 00:20:20,893
Speaker 2: batteries on the plane, and I want to take this

464
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Speaker 2: all the way at the time, I want to take

465
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Speaker 2: this all the way.

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Speaker 3: It is possible. It is possible, Mett Heath, that I

467
00:20:26,173 --> 00:20:28,653
Speaker 3: might have panicked in that situation. I might have disparaged

468
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Speaker 3: this ev SEC worker that he was actually kind of nice.

469
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Speaker 3: And I think when he pulled me aside, and I'm

470
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Speaker 3: in panic mode by that stage, thinking oh God, what

471
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Speaker 3: have I got in the bag, And he starts to

472
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Speaker 3: explain to me in a nice way what we can

473
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Speaker 3: do about these batteries, But instantly I'm saying, I don't

474
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Speaker 3: know whose batteries are. I've never met those batteries of

475
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Speaker 3: my life. Get rid of them.

476
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Speaker 2: Smart, because you were carrying some contraband in your back pocket,

477
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Speaker 2: you didn't want it to look too closely.

478
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Speaker 3: John, your wife works for ev SEC.

479
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Speaker 2: What do you think around the issues of efficiencies at security?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you're good afternoon. Guys. Hope you're doing well in

481
00:21:00,853 --> 00:21:05,573
Speaker 13: your new showing. Congratulations, thank you, John. Yeah, yeah, I

482
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Speaker 13: won't say where she works. But Tyler, were your batteries

483
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Speaker 13: did you say they were rechargeable?

484
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Speaker 3: Yeah, rechargeable?

485
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Speaker 9: Right?

486
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Speaker 13: Were they in the actual holder, the rechargeable holder?

487
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Speaker 3: No, they were not. Now they were loose in the bag.

488
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Speaker 3: And the worst thing was John, is that nobody can

489
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Speaker 3: see my backpack here. But there's a heck of a

490
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Speaker 3: lot of pockets, more pockets, you know, like head and

491
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Speaker 3: pockets that I don't know about. So it took a

492
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Speaker 3: long time for him to find.

493
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Speaker 4: The revoked Tyler Adams flight status. Yeah, put them on

494
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Speaker 4: the no fly list.

495
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Speaker 13: Yeah, No, I was just sort of thinking because of

496
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Speaker 13: the actual charge itself, it's got scott wires coming out

497
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Speaker 13: of it.

498
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Speaker 14: Now.

499
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Speaker 13: What they've done and they is they've changed the X

500
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Speaker 13: ray machines from two D to three D right now,

501
00:21:51,013 --> 00:21:53,653
Speaker 13: that that takes a lot of time to go in

502
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Speaker 13: like three dimensional, to go through all your pockets, to

503
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Speaker 13: pick up everything that's in your bag. That just takes time,

504
00:22:00,853 --> 00:22:05,373
Speaker 13: and ultimately that that slows the cues down unfortunately. But

505
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Speaker 13: it's it's just one of those things. That I'd rather

506
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Speaker 13: have that five ten minute weight knowing that that bag's

507
00:22:13,013 --> 00:22:15,613
Speaker 13: going to be checked and there's not this mental bomb

508
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Speaker 13: in it, or a gun that you can put together

509
00:22:18,573 --> 00:22:21,253
Speaker 13: in three or four pieces on the plane and start

510
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Speaker 13: shooting someone.

511
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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a couple of questions for you, John,

512
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Speaker 2: as someone that's whose wife works said have sex, how

513
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Speaker 2: often does she find something dangerous, like literally legitimately dangerous

514
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Speaker 2: that could lead to kind of those security issues you're

515
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Speaker 2: talking about.

516
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Speaker 13: She had an issue last week. All the bells and

517
00:22:42,533 --> 00:22:46,053
Speaker 13: missles went off. Team leaders were called and thankfully it

518
00:22:46,133 --> 00:22:48,253
Speaker 13: was a false alarm, but it was picked up through

519
00:22:48,293 --> 00:22:53,013
Speaker 13: the new three D X ray machine and it looked suspicious,

520
00:22:53,053 --> 00:22:57,933
Speaker 13: but on further investigation it was clear. But if they

521
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Speaker 13: privatize this place and just to get people through quicker,

522
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Speaker 13: that would have been missed, that would have been put

523
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Speaker 13: on a plane, and you imagine if something had happen

524
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Speaker 13: up at twenty thirty thousand.

525
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Speaker 3: Feet or they do privatize.

526
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Speaker 2: It is privatized in London and Australia, and you arguably

527
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Speaker 2: have a higher security risk there. John, I've got a

528
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Speaker 2: question for you as well, another question, follow up question.

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Speaker 2: I was once going through security and I saw a

530
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Speaker 2: glock pop up in the picture and someone's like, you know,

531
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Speaker 2: a glock a handgun. He popped up in the picture

532
00:23:34,333 --> 00:23:37,173
Speaker 2: of someone's bag, and then I went, oh, my goodness

533
00:23:37,213 --> 00:23:40,053
Speaker 2: to the person like your wife that works there, and

534
00:23:40,093 --> 00:23:42,293
Speaker 2: then they just pressed it, tapped on it, and it disappeared.

535
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Speaker 2: And what it was, if I understand correctly, is every

536
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Speaker 2: now and then the system will pop up a picture

537
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Speaker 2: to make sure that you're watching.

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Speaker 3: Can you confirm or deny this?

539
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Speaker 13: Yes, that's right, that the test would The ray machines

540
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Speaker 13: that are like they're rostered every fifteen minutes, so you're

541
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Speaker 13: on a for fifteen minutes, you're taken off to do

542
00:24:03,293 --> 00:24:06,333
Speaker 13: another duty and then you come back, so your attention

543
00:24:06,613 --> 00:24:11,373
Speaker 13: isn't basically you don't get bored on it. Other duties

544
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Speaker 13: they're rostered to half an hour, then they're shifted off

545
00:24:13,773 --> 00:24:16,653
Speaker 13: to do something else. They come back, so they're rostered

546
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Speaker 13: around all the time doing different duties so they don't

547
00:24:20,053 --> 00:24:25,853
Speaker 13: get distracted board what do you want to call it? Yeah,

548
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Speaker 13: with the X ray machines, it's very intensive, especially with

549
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Speaker 13: you three d ones. Yeah, yeah, fifteen minutes they're taken

550
00:24:32,133 --> 00:24:35,733
Speaker 13: off do something else. But yeah, they early in the mornings,

551
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Speaker 13: they go around and the team leaders put out test

552
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Speaker 13: pieces all around the terminal and the people are rostered

553
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Speaker 13: on earlier. They have to go out and find these

554
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Speaker 13: test pieces. They could be in the air bridge.

555
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Speaker 3: This is good.

556
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Speaker 2: That sounds fun. Yeah, that would be my part of

557
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Speaker 2: the job. That would be my favorite part of the

558
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Speaker 2: day if I worked in there. Hide and seek and

559
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Speaker 2: a sick Yeah, I like it.

560
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Speaker 3: Well, just on the three D you have to find them. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 3: just on the three D scanners. John, why did they

562
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Speaker 3: bring those out? Well, what side you said on? Because

563
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Speaker 3: are you saying that they are Security comes first and

564
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Speaker 3: foremost and we need the three D scanners there to

565
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Speaker 3: make sure that nothing nefarious is getting on the flight

566
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Speaker 3: or do you think genuinely it's a little bit too

567
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Speaker 3: much for domestic.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, it's sort of domestic. It's it's different like

569
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Speaker 13: if you're on a jet. That's why you go through

570
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Speaker 13: security thing because that plane is capable of going into

571
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Speaker 13: national They're not worried about propellers. They can't go into nationals.

572
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Speaker 13: They don't worry about that, right. It comes from the

573
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Speaker 13: International Civil Aviation Authority, which is overseas that's they're worried

574
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Speaker 13: about the jet planes that can take off from here.

575
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Speaker 3: I've always wanted where that was.

576
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Speaker 2: I've always wanted why you can just rock onto an

577
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Speaker 2: ADR and no one cares, But on a jet that

578
00:25:47,573 --> 00:25:48,373
Speaker 2: makes sense exactly.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good job. We're learning a lot here.

580
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Speaker 3: I got to take a break. It is half past one.

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Speaker 14: Talks the headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

582
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Speaker 14: with a blue bubble. The Social Development Minister says a

583
00:26:03,693 --> 00:26:07,373
Speaker 14: jump and benefit numbers is exactly as expected. Over the

584
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Speaker 14: year to September, more than twelve thousand more people signed

585
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Speaker 14: up for a job seeker benefit. The Local Government Minister

586
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Speaker 14: says he's concerned a rethink of Wellington's long term plan

587
00:26:17,613 --> 00:26:21,133
Speaker 14: will hit ratepayers. Simon Brown says he's waiting for official

588
00:26:21,213 --> 00:26:25,493
Speaker 14: advice for mcgreen MP Darling Tana's appeal isn't affecting the

589
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Speaker 14: party's plans to discuss this week whether to invoke laws

590
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Speaker 14: to booter from Parliament. At least six new lawsuits have

591
00:26:33,253 --> 00:26:37,373
Speaker 14: been filed against US rapper Sean diddy Comb's accusing him

592
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Speaker 14: of sexual assault, rape and drugging. Farmac's proposing funding at home,

593
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Speaker 14: Urine tests to confirm are pregnancies ended after a medical abortion.

594
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Speaker 14: NASA has launched a spacecraft from Cape Canaveral, heading to

595
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Speaker 14: arrive at a moon of Jupiter Europa by twenty thirty one.

596
00:26:56,413 --> 00:26:59,373
Speaker 14: The Solar POWD Europa Clipper will look for ocean conditions

597
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Speaker 14: suitable for life, doing close flybys over three years teamwork

598
00:27:05,453 --> 00:27:08,213
Speaker 14: New Zealand. How the key was dominated despite the Brits

599
00:27:08,453 --> 00:27:11,373
Speaker 14: a prize Americas can't move. Read the full column at

600
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Speaker 14: enz in Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eith and

601
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Speaker 14: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen, it is twenty six to two. And Marie,

603
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Speaker 3: how are you good?

604
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Speaker 15: Thanks?

605
00:27:19,653 --> 00:27:21,893
Speaker 3: Are you very well? You used to work for EVZEC.

606
00:27:22,853 --> 00:27:26,293
Speaker 15: I did just quite recently. They were just introducing, as

607
00:27:26,293 --> 00:27:30,733
Speaker 15: I left, the three D X ray machines, which you

608
00:27:30,733 --> 00:27:32,693
Speaker 15: can actually see a lot lot more wrong, which is

609
00:27:32,733 --> 00:27:35,933
Speaker 15: why you don't have to take your laptop out anymore.

610
00:27:36,413 --> 00:27:36,532
Speaker 7: So.

611
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Speaker 15: On the two D machines you can't actually see through them,

612
00:27:39,773 --> 00:27:42,333
Speaker 15: so you can have anything hidden behind them. Seven nine

613
00:27:42,333 --> 00:27:44,773
Speaker 15: ty get episcides as you can't. They're very very dense.

614
00:27:45,613 --> 00:27:48,533
Speaker 15: But with the three D X rays you can turn

615
00:27:48,573 --> 00:27:50,493
Speaker 15: them around. You can spin everything around you can see

616
00:27:50,533 --> 00:27:51,773
Speaker 15: exactly where everything is.

617
00:27:52,573 --> 00:27:55,293
Speaker 3: That That is interesting how many airports have that now?

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Speaker 2: Because I was going through Aukland the other day and

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Speaker 2: it said there was a sign saying you have to

620
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Speaker 2: take your laptop out, but then when I went up

621
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Speaker 2: to go through, they said you don't have to take

622
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Speaker 2: it your laptop out.

623
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Speaker 15: As I was taking in there, I see a lot

624
00:28:04,573 --> 00:28:08,053
Speaker 15: of the international ones. They're doing all the international ones first,

625
00:28:08,373 --> 00:28:11,693
Speaker 15: flying domestically. They're slowly taking over a little bit at

626
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Speaker 15: a time, but it depends. I don't really know what

627
00:28:14,613 --> 00:28:17,653
Speaker 15: order they're doing. Excuse me, they're doing them at and

628
00:28:18,013 --> 00:28:19,813
Speaker 15: again I think it was John that was your previous

629
00:28:19,813 --> 00:28:22,733
Speaker 15: caller had mentioned about everything. All the rules are handed

630
00:28:22,733 --> 00:28:24,333
Speaker 15: down from the CIA, so if you want to be

631
00:28:24,373 --> 00:28:27,493
Speaker 15: an international airport, you have to abide by those rules.

632
00:28:27,613 --> 00:28:30,613
Speaker 15: And why some of those are different in other countries,

633
00:28:30,653 --> 00:28:34,173
Speaker 15: I don't know. Because we are always told you must

634
00:28:34,213 --> 00:28:35,893
Speaker 15: take the boots off, don't have sex shoes. You can

635
00:28:35,973 --> 00:28:37,973
Speaker 15: hide things in boots. You can hide things around your

636
00:28:37,973 --> 00:28:41,173
Speaker 15: ankle which can go through the metal detector. There's three

637
00:28:41,253 --> 00:28:43,893
Speaker 15: D printing now people have got three D princes knives,

638
00:28:44,693 --> 00:28:47,973
Speaker 15: so they've just been extra cautious. You know, if you're

639
00:28:48,213 --> 00:28:50,573
Speaker 15: traveling in America, you take shoes and boots off.

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00:28:50,733 --> 00:28:54,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, so as a new technology on both both, your

641
00:28:54,693 --> 00:28:57,493
Speaker 3: bag goes through the scanner and then if you get

642
00:28:57,493 --> 00:28:59,533
Speaker 3: picked up on the metal detector, you have to go

643
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:01,973
Speaker 3: through and stand with your arms apart and do the

644
00:29:01,973 --> 00:29:04,293
Speaker 3: three D scanning. Then. So both of those systems are

645
00:29:04,293 --> 00:29:05,013
Speaker 3: being upgraded, have.

646
00:29:05,053 --> 00:29:09,413
Speaker 15: They yes, so if you you'll still through. I think

647
00:29:09,733 --> 00:29:12,413
Speaker 15: eventually they want to do away with the first one,

648
00:29:12,453 --> 00:29:16,973
Speaker 15: the metal detector, and everyone will just be scanned on throw.

649
00:29:17,013 --> 00:29:20,213
Speaker 15: But the metal detector does just pick up metal. The

650
00:29:20,293 --> 00:29:22,813
Speaker 15: scanner picks up any anomalaly if it doesn't matter whether

651
00:29:22,813 --> 00:29:24,933
Speaker 15: it's metal or not. You could have a big, bulky

652
00:29:24,933 --> 00:29:28,173
Speaker 15: handkerchief in your pocket, it'll pick that up. It's just

653
00:29:28,333 --> 00:29:30,213
Speaker 15: it's it's scans you, but it's not an X ray.

654
00:29:30,253 --> 00:29:32,853
Speaker 15: It just scanns your body. And if you've got anything

655
00:29:32,893 --> 00:29:34,933
Speaker 15: that shouldn't be there, then we ask if we can

656
00:29:34,933 --> 00:29:37,453
Speaker 15: please pat that area down just to clear the area.

657
00:29:38,253 --> 00:29:40,373
Speaker 15: And people forget all sorts of things. People do have

658
00:29:40,413 --> 00:29:42,373
Speaker 15: pocket knives in their pocket and they've just forgotten that

659
00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:42,813
Speaker 15: they're there.

660
00:29:43,973 --> 00:29:46,653
Speaker 3: What happens in that situation A Marie. If they find

661
00:29:46,653 --> 00:29:49,413
Speaker 3: a pocket knife, is it all all hands for the

662
00:29:49,453 --> 00:29:52,493
Speaker 3: pump at that stage for ebbs or no.

663
00:29:52,613 --> 00:29:55,173
Speaker 15: We just it depends on the size, because there is

664
00:29:55,773 --> 00:29:57,813
Speaker 15: a size of them. It's of blades and scissors. I

665
00:29:57,813 --> 00:29:59,933
Speaker 15: think it's I believe it was six centimeters. If it's

666
00:29:59,973 --> 00:30:03,333
Speaker 15: over that, it can't go through. It has to be confiscated.

667
00:30:03,813 --> 00:30:05,813
Speaker 3: Henry, how long did you work for six.

668
00:30:05,733 --> 00:30:08,613
Speaker 16: Four I was only there for eight months, okay.

669
00:30:09,053 --> 00:30:12,373
Speaker 2: So in your time there, and you know, talking to

670
00:30:12,613 --> 00:30:17,293
Speaker 2: other workers there, how often did you find something or

671
00:30:17,373 --> 00:30:20,373
Speaker 2: heard about people finding something that, rather than being a mistake,

672
00:30:20,493 --> 00:30:24,973
Speaker 2: they actually thought was a genuine attempt at an attack

673
00:30:25,413 --> 00:30:28,773
Speaker 2: on a plane, a genuine terrorist threat.

674
00:30:29,013 --> 00:30:32,493
Speaker 15: A genuine zero and most of them are zero. People

675
00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:36,853
Speaker 15: just bring things back through accidentally. I think the worst

676
00:30:36,853 --> 00:30:38,733
Speaker 15: thing I found was a knuckle duster, and that so

677
00:30:38,773 --> 00:30:40,813
Speaker 15: that that's an illegal thing that police had to be

678
00:30:40,853 --> 00:30:44,213
Speaker 15: called for that, right, There's very I mean, I think

679
00:30:44,253 --> 00:30:46,733
Speaker 15: the most frustrating thing because we do get frustrated too,

680
00:30:46,773 --> 00:30:49,373
Speaker 15: and I know passengers do. But standing on the other side,

681
00:30:49,413 --> 00:30:53,773
Speaker 15: the biggest frustration for us is passengers believe their brains

682
00:30:53,893 --> 00:30:56,013
Speaker 15: in the taxis are in their cars and get into

683
00:30:56,053 --> 00:30:59,773
Speaker 15: the airport. They do not read signs, because most of

684
00:30:59,773 --> 00:31:01,733
Speaker 15: the signs at the airport I was at were very clear,

685
00:31:01,853 --> 00:31:05,053
Speaker 15: please empty your pockets, please take laptops out. And people

686
00:31:05,053 --> 00:31:09,013
Speaker 15: would come through with keys and phone and everything in

687
00:31:09,053 --> 00:31:10,853
Speaker 15: their pockets. So you'd send them back and they'd come

688
00:31:10,893 --> 00:31:13,133
Speaker 15: back through again there's still something else, and you've sent

689
00:31:13,253 --> 00:31:16,133
Speaker 15: sometimes three or four times. Just can you just take

690
00:31:16,133 --> 00:31:18,693
Speaker 15: your jacket off? Can you just please empty everything thing

691
00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:21,653
Speaker 15: with out of your pocket. That's what slows the whole

692
00:31:21,653 --> 00:31:25,493
Speaker 15: production laying down. Otherwise it's really fairly quick. You go through.

693
00:31:25,533 --> 00:31:27,093
Speaker 15: You don't be if you pick up your bag at

694
00:31:27,133 --> 00:31:29,373
Speaker 15: the other end. I mean the battery thing. The battery

695
00:31:29,373 --> 00:31:31,253
Speaker 15: shouldn't have been taken off here. You just had to.

696
00:31:34,373 --> 00:31:34,893
Speaker 3: Wanted to run.

697
00:31:35,053 --> 00:31:39,293
Speaker 2: Noies my pans tylert that you had something else there.

698
00:31:39,293 --> 00:31:40,773
Speaker 4: I didn't want to look at anymore.

699
00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:43,133
Speaker 3: I think the AFC guy was still talking to me

700
00:31:43,133 --> 00:31:43,773
Speaker 3: while I was running.

701
00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:49,653
Speaker 2: I swear though that that in all that time nothing

702
00:31:50,013 --> 00:31:50,893
Speaker 2: has been through.

703
00:31:51,173 --> 00:31:53,533
Speaker 3: That was a genuine risk. It's an interesting thing to

704
00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:53,733
Speaker 3: go to.

705
00:31:53,733 --> 00:31:57,173
Speaker 2: A job every day and you never quite find the

706
00:31:57,213 --> 00:32:01,053
Speaker 2: thing that is you're there to find, because no one's

707
00:32:01,053 --> 00:32:03,453
Speaker 2: trying to get them on on onto planes, and god

708
00:32:03,453 --> 00:32:06,413
Speaker 2: forbid someone does. But I mean maybe that's an argument

709
00:32:06,453 --> 00:32:11,653
Speaker 2: that we could make things a little bit lacksa domestically,

710
00:32:11,733 --> 00:32:15,013
Speaker 2: but of course, because the jet planes can go overseas,

711
00:32:15,053 --> 00:32:17,413
Speaker 2: we have to be beholden to international rules.

712
00:32:17,413 --> 00:32:20,133
Speaker 3: But a good point, Am Mariemade that if people read

713
00:32:20,253 --> 00:32:22,533
Speaker 3: what was allowed in the bags to carry on bags

714
00:32:22,613 --> 00:32:25,613
Speaker 3: and had it sorted before they got to aviation security,

715
00:32:25,813 --> 00:32:27,333
Speaker 3: run a lot smother. Yeah, but no one's ever going

716
00:32:27,373 --> 00:32:31,173
Speaker 3: to do that, are they? Like you might do that? Well,

717
00:32:31,253 --> 00:32:33,693
Speaker 3: I didn't because you wish to my battery.

718
00:32:33,893 --> 00:32:36,933
Speaker 2: Any good system takes into account that people will be useless.

719
00:32:37,253 --> 00:32:38,973
Speaker 2: Every good system takes that into account.

720
00:32:38,973 --> 00:32:41,173
Speaker 3: Wise words, it is twenty one to two.

721
00:32:42,613 --> 00:32:45,893
Speaker 1: Mattie Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.

722
00:32:46,053 --> 00:32:49,453
Speaker 1: Matt Even Tyler Adams afternoons used talk said, be.

723
00:32:49,813 --> 00:32:52,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. It is eighteen to two.

724
00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:55,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, Transport Minister Simeon Brown is exploring options to outsource

725
00:32:56,013 --> 00:33:00,173
Speaker 2: aviation security airports. Before we do that, are there inefficiencies

726
00:33:00,213 --> 00:33:03,453
Speaker 2: that you see when you're going through airport security domestically

727
00:33:03,493 --> 00:33:05,733
Speaker 2: in New Zealand that you think could move things along?

728
00:33:06,213 --> 00:33:09,173
Speaker 2: I personally believe that thing as we've ever ever found

729
00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:11,573
Speaker 2: anything in.

730
00:33:11,573 --> 00:33:13,533
Speaker 3: A boot that people should just be able to rock

731
00:33:13,573 --> 00:33:15,573
Speaker 3: through with their boots. Yeah, that's a big one for you,

732
00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:16,013
Speaker 3: isn't it.

733
00:33:16,053 --> 00:33:17,693
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't think they found one anywhere in

734
00:33:17,693 --> 00:33:20,253
Speaker 2: the world. Richard Reid, that was the guy that was

735
00:33:20,253 --> 00:33:22,293
Speaker 2: was it two thousand and one? So he's done so

736
00:33:22,373 --> 00:33:25,133
Speaker 2: much damage that guys who was getting on a transatlantic

737
00:33:25,173 --> 00:33:29,813
Speaker 2: fight with a bomb and a shoe a terrible human being,

738
00:33:30,653 --> 00:33:33,093
Speaker 2: and as a result, people all around the world fit

739
00:33:33,133 --> 00:33:35,613
Speaker 2: to take their shoots off his shoes off on flights.

740
00:33:36,733 --> 00:33:39,533
Speaker 3: The US do go hard on aviation security, and we

741
00:33:39,573 --> 00:33:41,933
Speaker 3: all understand why the US particularly goes.

742
00:33:42,493 --> 00:33:44,053
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it in the United States

743
00:33:44,053 --> 00:33:46,413
Speaker 2: of America. I definitely get it in the UK.

744
00:33:46,213 --> 00:33:48,613
Speaker 3: But they almost make you completely disrow before you go

745
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:52,573
Speaker 3: through security in the US. Patty, how are you this afternoon? Hi?

746
00:33:53,333 --> 00:33:57,053
Speaker 16: I'm very well. Thanks. Good afternoon, guys, Good afternoon. Yeah,

747
00:33:57,093 --> 00:33:59,053
Speaker 16: I've got a little story to share with you, just

748
00:33:59,253 --> 00:34:01,893
Speaker 16: an amusing story. I wanted to take an ear bike

749
00:34:02,013 --> 00:34:05,533
Speaker 16: up to Auckland from Nelson, so I need I needed

750
00:34:05,533 --> 00:34:07,373
Speaker 16: a box YEP. So I went to the airport to

751
00:34:07,373 --> 00:34:09,172
Speaker 16: ask in the third box. I said yeah, yeah, yeah.

752
00:34:09,213 --> 00:34:10,573
Speaker 16: So I looked in the box the guy I said, oh,

753
00:34:10,613 --> 00:34:13,053
Speaker 16: there's no bicycle in this. I said no no, I

754
00:34:13,093 --> 00:34:14,253
Speaker 16: said to him, I just want to see if my

755
00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:17,172
Speaker 16: ebik will foot in here. So he said, oh, you're

756
00:34:17,213 --> 00:34:20,652
Speaker 16: not taking the earbux to unclean noise. I said, yeah,

757
00:34:20,733 --> 00:34:22,652
Speaker 16: well you can't take the battery. I said, yeah, I

758
00:34:22,653 --> 00:34:26,533
Speaker 16: know that, so he said so I said, oh, talking

759
00:34:26,573 --> 00:34:29,453
Speaker 16: about that, I said, what is the deal with these batteries?

760
00:34:29,813 --> 00:34:33,973
Speaker 16: So he said, because I'm acting stupid easy, So he says,

761
00:34:34,013 --> 00:34:35,893
Speaker 16: oh no, he says, you know, we've just reduced the

762
00:34:35,893 --> 00:34:38,173
Speaker 16: size of the battery so that you can take on

763
00:34:38,213 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 16: a plane. So I said, okay, well what's the deal

764
00:34:40,493 --> 00:34:42,013
Speaker 16: with them? So he said, well, the size of the

765
00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:44,493
Speaker 16: battery has got to be so that it fits into

766
00:34:44,533 --> 00:34:46,253
Speaker 16: the sink in the plane, so they can fill the

767
00:34:46,293 --> 00:34:50,733
Speaker 16: sink with water to dowst any fire. I said, you

768
00:34:50,773 --> 00:34:52,693
Speaker 16: are serious, so he said yeah.

769
00:34:52,893 --> 00:34:53,093
Speaker 7: Now.

770
00:34:53,173 --> 00:34:54,533
Speaker 16: I don't know if he was just telling me this

771
00:34:54,573 --> 00:34:56,173
Speaker 16: to get rid of me or what, but anyway, so

772
00:34:56,213 --> 00:34:59,853
Speaker 16: I said to him, do you know what elethia mine

773
00:34:59,893 --> 00:35:02,973
Speaker 16: battery does when you put it into water? So he

774
00:35:03,013 --> 00:35:06,693
Speaker 16: said no, So I said, it gives off hydrogen gas

775
00:35:07,053 --> 00:35:12,853
Speaker 16: which is highly closer. So he goes, really, I said,

776
00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:16,373
Speaker 16: and you didn't know this? No, So I said, okay,

777
00:35:16,493 --> 00:35:18,733
Speaker 16: well thanks for the info, and off I went. And

778
00:35:18,733 --> 00:35:21,013
Speaker 16: he said, how are you getting your battery to Auckland.

779
00:35:21,213 --> 00:35:22,533
Speaker 16: I said, that's for me to know and for you

780
00:35:22,573 --> 00:35:23,053
Speaker 16: to find.

781
00:35:22,893 --> 00:35:23,493
Speaker 17: Out that.

782
00:35:25,333 --> 00:35:25,653
Speaker 3: Taking it.

783
00:35:26,933 --> 00:35:29,093
Speaker 2: But my dad sent me and e bike up from

784
00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:32,173
Speaker 2: from Dunedin recently because he didn't want to ride his

785
00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:36,613
Speaker 2: e bike anymore. It's a very cool little orange foldable one.

786
00:35:36,653 --> 00:35:38,692
Speaker 2: That was quite a rigma role getting it up here.

787
00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:40,772
Speaker 2: I don't I think it had to go across land.

788
00:35:40,893 --> 00:35:41,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

789
00:35:41,933 --> 00:35:44,013
Speaker 16: I think, well you can send the e I think

790
00:35:44,053 --> 00:35:45,653
Speaker 16: you can send you can send the buck because I

791
00:35:45,693 --> 00:35:46,573
Speaker 16: did send my e buck.

792
00:35:46,733 --> 00:35:47,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

793
00:35:47,133 --> 00:35:50,253
Speaker 16: But they said, oh you've got to send the battery

794
00:35:50,293 --> 00:35:52,453
Speaker 16: by courier, and that's got to be a special courier.

795
00:35:52,533 --> 00:35:55,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think that they speak

796
00:35:55,413 --> 00:35:56,853
Speaker 3: from you. I think we send the whole bike is

797
00:35:56,893 --> 00:35:58,413
Speaker 3: a special courier. But I couldn't believe it.

798
00:35:58,413 --> 00:35:59,733
Speaker 2: I was like saying to my dad, I'll just take

799
00:35:59,853 --> 00:36:01,413
Speaker 2: the put it on the plane, take it back up

800
00:36:01,413 --> 00:36:03,093
Speaker 2: to Auckland with me, And he said.

801
00:36:02,853 --> 00:36:04,893
Speaker 3: No, no, no no, no, no no no no no no, no,

802
00:36:04,933 --> 00:36:07,853
Speaker 3: you can't do it. No, you can't do that. I mean,

803
00:36:07,853 --> 00:36:09,893
Speaker 3: we do get but silly on those batteries, aren't they?

804
00:36:10,573 --> 00:36:14,053
Speaker 2: But they when one of those batteries starts burning, burns

805
00:36:14,053 --> 00:36:16,133
Speaker 2: and burns and burns and burns in a way that's

806
00:36:16,253 --> 00:36:18,533
Speaker 2: quite weird and what you wouldn't want on to play

807
00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:19,613
Speaker 2: in a Biggie Bite battery.

808
00:36:19,733 --> 00:36:21,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. I take them.

809
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:22,413
Speaker 4: I opened the door and have it out.

810
00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:25,013
Speaker 3: Of course, Craig, what do you think on this one?

811
00:36:25,053 --> 00:36:25,613
Speaker 8: They has a game?

812
00:36:25,733 --> 00:36:26,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, good.

813
00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:27,292
Speaker 13: Well.

814
00:36:27,373 --> 00:36:29,573
Speaker 8: I sort of work as a contractor that does a

815
00:36:29,613 --> 00:36:31,813
Speaker 8: lot of work in the airports, and I find it frustrating.

816
00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:35,733
Speaker 8: I flew down to Crash at around about two thousand

817
00:36:35,813 --> 00:36:38,172
Speaker 8: and I wasn't really paying much ginches what you could

818
00:36:38,173 --> 00:36:39,772
Speaker 8: take and what you couldn't take back in those days.

819
00:36:39,773 --> 00:36:43,173
Speaker 8: And I walked into Crashes airport and bumped into Jason

820
00:36:43,213 --> 00:36:47,053
Speaker 8: Gunn and then we're past, yeah, past the big display

821
00:36:47,173 --> 00:36:48,853
Speaker 8: end of all things you can't carry, and that's what

822
00:36:48,893 --> 00:36:50,533
Speaker 8: I was carrying them with little carry on bags like

823
00:36:50,853 --> 00:36:52,733
Speaker 8: cigarette lighters, utane torches.

824
00:36:52,853 --> 00:36:55,013
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so it's like, well that's not good.

825
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:57,213
Speaker 8: But then a few years ago we did work up

826
00:36:57,213 --> 00:37:00,692
Speaker 8: at Auckland Airport, and yet we're doing all of warring

827
00:37:00,773 --> 00:37:01,613
Speaker 8: for their WiFi, for.

828
00:37:01,613 --> 00:37:02,252
Speaker 6: The access points.

829
00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:04,213
Speaker 8: I had screws and screw drives in my pocket and

830
00:37:04,253 --> 00:37:06,093
Speaker 8: walked up through the metal checker in the road with

831
00:37:06,133 --> 00:37:08,533
Speaker 8: everyone now, so had to take them all out a

832
00:37:08,613 --> 00:37:10,213
Speaker 8: couple of times, and the guy sort of knew me

833
00:37:10,253 --> 00:37:12,333
Speaker 8: by then and said, oh, you just go through. And

834
00:37:12,413 --> 00:37:14,613
Speaker 8: I remember going through the middle kicking, screaming, you see

835
00:37:14,613 --> 00:37:16,493
Speaker 8: it off and turned around. All these passengers are looking

836
00:37:16,493 --> 00:37:20,093
Speaker 8: worried because they didn't get stopped. But I also had

837
00:37:20,133 --> 00:37:22,573
Speaker 8: a security passage gave me the excess all areas, and

838
00:37:22,653 --> 00:37:24,893
Speaker 8: what I found was quite interesting. There's some parts of you,

839
00:37:24,973 --> 00:37:27,013
Speaker 8: but once you get through that. On the international side,

840
00:37:27,013 --> 00:37:28,933
Speaker 8: I found out that the police are actually governed by

841
00:37:28,933 --> 00:37:31,373
Speaker 8: international law and not local law. So right back in

842
00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:33,413
Speaker 8: early two thousand and they were carrying glocks and that

843
00:37:33,533 --> 00:37:35,973
Speaker 8: when New Zealand police weren't doing that. And I walked

844
00:37:35,973 --> 00:37:37,373
Speaker 8: down the other side and this guy comes up to

845
00:37:37,413 --> 00:37:39,493
Speaker 8: me and goes, what are you doing in stern voice,

846
00:37:39,493 --> 00:37:41,253
Speaker 8: And I went to grab my little ID tag out

847
00:37:41,253 --> 00:37:42,773
Speaker 8: of my pocket, and as I was pulling my tag out.

848
00:37:42,773 --> 00:37:44,453
Speaker 8: I could see his hand going down towards the gun.

849
00:37:44,533 --> 00:37:47,773
Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, yeah, that scary.

850
00:37:47,813 --> 00:37:49,853
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's interesting what you can carry and and

851
00:37:49,893 --> 00:37:52,733
Speaker 8: stuff like that. But I guess you got to you

852
00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:55,453
Speaker 8: gotta be safe and all that. That's a contract. It

853
00:37:55,493 --> 00:37:58,293
Speaker 8: does get a little annoying when you plasically got a

854
00:37:58,613 --> 00:38:01,413
Speaker 8: entire tool box. As you go through the the thing

855
00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:03,333
Speaker 8: and that you see all these people on lying look

856
00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:05,573
Speaker 8: at chickney watchers and you're like, oh crap, I'm pissed

857
00:38:05,573 --> 00:38:07,692
Speaker 8: someone off. But that's just what it is.

858
00:38:07,733 --> 00:38:10,253
Speaker 4: But I'd be interesting if there was some kind of

859
00:38:10,933 --> 00:38:17,933
Speaker 4: full security investigation, psyche report, full investigation into your whole

860
00:38:17,973 --> 00:38:21,573
Speaker 4: life and all your acquaintances.

861
00:38:21,173 --> 00:38:23,613
Speaker 2: And you just get a teck that this guy is good.

862
00:38:23,813 --> 00:38:26,533
Speaker 2: He can carry stuff onto the plane, he's safe.

863
00:38:26,573 --> 00:38:28,573
Speaker 3: You'd never fly anywhere if that was the case, mate,

864
00:38:28,733 --> 00:38:30,093
Speaker 3: I'd flag straight away.

865
00:38:30,853 --> 00:38:33,013
Speaker 4: I wouldn't give me that license. But there are good

866
00:38:33,053 --> 00:38:33,773
Speaker 4: people out there.

867
00:38:34,213 --> 00:38:37,093
Speaker 3: Now, that's interesting, Craig, thank you very much, mate. Lorraine,

868
00:38:37,133 --> 00:38:38,893
Speaker 3: how are you hi?

869
00:38:39,173 --> 00:38:39,933
Speaker 18: Good things?

870
00:38:40,293 --> 00:38:40,453
Speaker 19: Now?

871
00:38:40,493 --> 00:38:42,493
Speaker 3: You want to give me a serve on my battery situation?

872
00:38:43,293 --> 00:38:47,813
Speaker 20: Yeah, just to say that when you're carrying batteries especially

873
00:38:48,053 --> 00:38:50,293
Speaker 20: lithium batteries. You're supposed to have them either in the

874
00:38:50,293 --> 00:38:53,813
Speaker 20: container that they were brought in or in the items

875
00:38:53,853 --> 00:38:55,813
Speaker 20: that you were using it in. They don't just like

876
00:38:55,893 --> 00:38:58,813
Speaker 20: them floating around at the bottom of your bag. They're

877
00:38:58,893 --> 00:39:01,253
Speaker 20: combustible and they're fire rests.

878
00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:04,013
Speaker 2: About what if Tyler had said, I'm gonna put one

879
00:39:04,053 --> 00:39:06,013
Speaker 2: in one pocket and one in the other pocket and

880
00:39:06,453 --> 00:39:07,652
Speaker 2: never the Twainshill meet.

881
00:39:08,573 --> 00:39:08,732
Speaker 21: No.

882
00:39:08,813 --> 00:39:11,533
Speaker 20: But but even still, I mean, you know, if you what,

883
00:39:11,693 --> 00:39:13,933
Speaker 20: why cut corners and try and do you know what

884
00:39:13,973 --> 00:39:14,213
Speaker 20: I mean?

885
00:39:14,373 --> 00:39:16,413
Speaker 2: Right, what kind of low level terrorist is sitting on

886
00:39:16,453 --> 00:39:19,172
Speaker 2: a plane pushing two AA batteries together trying to bring

887
00:39:19,173 --> 00:39:22,013
Speaker 2: the plane down? But there would be there'd be a

888
00:39:22,173 --> 00:39:23,933
Speaker 2: terrible terrible plot that one.

889
00:39:24,133 --> 00:39:26,893
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, oh well they have they have were also

890
00:39:26,933 --> 00:39:29,373
Speaker 20: that the majority of the people can fly, and you know,

891
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:33,093
Speaker 20: I mean it's for that reason for a virus lessian batteries.

892
00:39:33,133 --> 00:39:36,613
Speaker 20: When they're put out, they can respark again. So they're

893
00:39:36,613 --> 00:39:40,933
Speaker 20: supposed to be in a container, the original storage container,

894
00:39:41,133 --> 00:39:43,413
Speaker 20: or in the item that they're being used, and not

895
00:39:43,493 --> 00:39:45,813
Speaker 20: floating around at the bottom of the bag, even if it's.

896
00:39:45,653 --> 00:39:48,773
Speaker 3: One yeah, toilet. They were pretty manky batteries as well.

897
00:39:48,813 --> 00:39:51,133
Speaker 3: To be honest, they're rechargeable. I had them for about

898
00:39:51,213 --> 00:39:53,573
Speaker 3: what you have, what you bring them up for? You

899
00:39:54,253 --> 00:39:58,653
Speaker 3: had two ten year old batteres just rocking around. Loosen

900
00:39:58,733 --> 00:40:01,013
Speaker 3: your bed. That's why I just desire dis owned the

901
00:40:01,053 --> 00:40:03,573
Speaker 3: actual bag and just started gapping it. And the guy

902
00:40:03,613 --> 00:40:05,053
Speaker 3: had to call me back and said, you want your bag,

903
00:40:05,253 --> 00:40:07,613
Speaker 3: I take that, Just take the batteries. Oh, eight hundred

904
00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:10,373
Speaker 3: and eighty ten. He is a number to call. It

905
00:40:10,453 --> 00:40:11,453
Speaker 3: is eleven to two.

906
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Speaker 1: Mattith Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight and Tyler

907
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Speaker 1: Adams Afterloons News Storks.

908
00:40:22,093 --> 00:40:24,172
Speaker 3: New Storks. There be met and Tyler it is eight

909
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Speaker 3: to two.

910
00:40:25,213 --> 00:40:29,413
Speaker 2: We're talking about aviation, security of sex and how we

911
00:40:29,453 --> 00:40:33,053
Speaker 2: can move things along and make them more efficient. You've

912
00:40:33,053 --> 00:40:34,813
Speaker 2: got some battery chat, I understand.

913
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:36,773
Speaker 21: I do.

914
00:40:36,973 --> 00:40:38,933
Speaker 22: I have some battery and firetech.

915
00:40:39,213 --> 00:40:40,213
Speaker 3: Okay.

916
00:40:40,693 --> 00:40:43,413
Speaker 22: I think you guys are being a little sort of

917
00:40:43,773 --> 00:40:47,533
Speaker 22: last day about Yes, I think that if there's a

918
00:40:47,653 --> 00:40:52,333
Speaker 22: fire on board, there's a lot of those batteries for

919
00:40:52,493 --> 00:40:56,893
Speaker 22: self ignite, and people do do crazy things like trying

920
00:40:56,933 --> 00:41:00,453
Speaker 22: to charge their fape using the airplane.

921
00:41:00,733 --> 00:41:05,333
Speaker 23: Yeah you shouldn't be doing that, no, but but there's

922
00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:07,613
Speaker 23: a risk there, and that's why the rule is there,

923
00:41:08,373 --> 00:41:11,773
Speaker 23: and it only needs to be one time or something

924
00:41:11,813 --> 00:41:13,533
Speaker 23: to go wrong to warrant it.

925
00:41:13,973 --> 00:41:16,212
Speaker 3: But just on that, Emma, and I get what you're saying,

926
00:41:16,253 --> 00:41:18,493
Speaker 3: absolutely right, and that's why the rules are in place.

927
00:41:18,533 --> 00:41:20,853
Speaker 3: But my double a battery, I don't want to I

928
00:41:20,853 --> 00:41:23,053
Speaker 3: didn't think we'd be hanging on this for a whole hour.

929
00:41:23,213 --> 00:41:25,733
Speaker 3: But how is that different to a power bank? You know,

930
00:41:25,813 --> 00:41:28,053
Speaker 3: a power band is a bigger battery. Isn't that more

931
00:41:28,053 --> 00:41:28,732
Speaker 3: of a fire risk?

932
00:41:30,013 --> 00:41:35,732
Speaker 22: Well, well, I don't know the brisk between. I think

933
00:41:36,253 --> 00:41:40,453
Speaker 22: what people could use it for or what what could

934
00:41:40,493 --> 00:41:43,933
Speaker 22: potentially have, especially if it's a lithium Then you don't

935
00:41:43,933 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 22: want to fire in a plane.

936
00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:46,493
Speaker 3: No, you certainly don't.

937
00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:49,133
Speaker 2: Well, Emma, I'm a big fan of being blase about things.

938
00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:51,373
Speaker 2: So what about someone taking two sticks on the plane?

939
00:41:51,413 --> 00:41:53,333
Speaker 2: You get someone who's taking sticks on the plane that

940
00:41:53,413 --> 00:41:55,653
Speaker 2: may make a fire. But interesting enough, you are actually

941
00:41:55,693 --> 00:41:58,733
Speaker 2: allowed if you if you can make a fire with

942
00:41:58,813 --> 00:42:00,853
Speaker 2: two lithium batteries. You are allowed to take a gas

943
00:42:00,933 --> 00:42:03,173
Speaker 2: lighter on a plane if it has two independent actions,

944
00:42:03,573 --> 00:42:06,333
Speaker 2: So you actually are allowed to take something. You're actually

945
00:42:06,373 --> 00:42:09,813
Speaker 2: allowed to take something on a plane that can actually

946
00:42:09,933 --> 00:42:12,453
Speaker 2: and is designed to start a fire.

947
00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:15,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think you're coming from Emirates more. The

948
00:42:16,093 --> 00:42:18,573
Speaker 3: it's not a deliberate attempt to start a fire. It's

949
00:42:18,613 --> 00:42:21,813
Speaker 3: might You might have these batteries in that just reignite themselves,

950
00:42:21,853 --> 00:42:25,093
Speaker 3: and then you've got a world of trouble. Yeah, okay,

951
00:42:26,653 --> 00:42:28,252
Speaker 3: is it a world or trouble? Is it a world

952
00:42:28,293 --> 00:42:28,653
Speaker 3: of trouble?

953
00:42:28,733 --> 00:42:31,413
Speaker 4: Or is it a very small fire between two AA

954
00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:34,533
Speaker 4: batteries that you would immediately feel in your pocket and

955
00:42:34,573 --> 00:42:36,493
Speaker 4: you could dampen out. Someone could just go.

956
00:42:37,933 --> 00:42:39,652
Speaker 3: And it's out. Yeah, but I don't want to have

957
00:42:39,693 --> 00:42:43,573
Speaker 3: that conversation with aircrew and when we finally land and say,

958
00:42:43,293 --> 00:42:45,573
Speaker 3: were they your double A batteries? You should have been

959
00:42:45,613 --> 00:42:46,453
Speaker 3: picked up at absect.

960
00:42:46,493 --> 00:42:47,853
Speaker 2: But also when I look at the rules, you are

961
00:42:47,853 --> 00:42:49,732
Speaker 2: allowed to take those batteries on the plane anyway, even

962
00:42:49,773 --> 00:42:52,053
Speaker 2: if they are loose. Yeah, so you are actually allowed

963
00:42:52,053 --> 00:42:53,172
Speaker 2: to take those batteries on a plane.

964
00:42:53,213 --> 00:42:55,453
Speaker 3: I was robbed apparently, right, Thank you so much for

965
00:42:55,493 --> 00:42:57,293
Speaker 3: your call, Emma. A couple of texts and then we'll

966
00:42:57,293 --> 00:42:59,813
Speaker 3: wrap this one up. Get guys, I came through airport

967
00:42:59,933 --> 00:43:04,333
Speaker 3: detection and the security insist that I had missal I

968
00:43:04,413 --> 00:43:07,093
Speaker 3: knew I didn't in the X ray unit beat. I

969
00:43:07,133 --> 00:43:08,693
Speaker 3: was then asked to go through a third time. She

970
00:43:08,733 --> 00:43:11,933
Speaker 3: asked me to remove my necklace and I said I'd

971
00:43:11,973 --> 00:43:17,853
Speaker 3: never seen that rule before. Eventually and loudly said that

972
00:43:17,933 --> 00:43:21,213
Speaker 3: it was my bra. It was bepen. The lady behind

973
00:43:21,213 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 3: me was rolling with laughter at this. I felt like

974
00:43:23,653 --> 00:43:24,493
Speaker 3: I was being picked on it.

975
00:43:24,493 --> 00:43:24,973
Speaker 5: But you did.

976
00:43:25,173 --> 00:43:28,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, we couldn't have something kind of rule.

977
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:30,013
Speaker 2: You've got to take your bar off before you go

978
00:43:30,093 --> 00:43:33,333
Speaker 2: through security. That's the consistency you're talking about. Yeah, because

979
00:43:33,373 --> 00:43:35,733
Speaker 2: I have to take my belt off, but if I

980
00:43:35,773 --> 00:43:37,573
Speaker 2: was wearing a bra, I would get to leave it on.

981
00:43:38,293 --> 00:43:40,453
Speaker 3: Just to come full circle on this, yeah, because this

982
00:43:40,573 --> 00:43:45,213
Speaker 3: is about privatizing sec or allowing airports to run their

983
00:43:45,253 --> 00:43:48,693
Speaker 3: own security, and we all know clearly there's some inconsistencies

984
00:43:48,733 --> 00:43:50,652
Speaker 3: in the process. Now, will they do a better job?

985
00:43:50,893 --> 00:43:53,173
Speaker 2: Well, they do it in the UK. I think airports

986
00:43:53,213 --> 00:43:55,652
Speaker 2: do a very very good job of getting people through

987
00:43:55,693 --> 00:43:59,053
Speaker 2: and organizing organizing the throw of people. And I know

988
00:43:59,093 --> 00:44:01,613
Speaker 2: that if he in New Zealand or an airline was

989
00:44:02,293 --> 00:44:04,213
Speaker 2: running it, they'd be very careful and keep up to

990
00:44:04,253 --> 00:44:05,893
Speaker 2: the regulations. So I'm sure they could do it as

991
00:44:05,933 --> 00:44:07,812
Speaker 2: good a job. I guess that comes down to price

992
00:44:07,813 --> 00:44:11,373
Speaker 2: for the government and efficiency. Anyway, should we put that

993
00:44:12,133 --> 00:44:13,573
Speaker 2: airport security chat to bed?

994
00:44:13,773 --> 00:44:13,973
Speaker 13: Yes?

995
00:44:14,053 --> 00:44:17,172
Speaker 2: And speaking of to Bed, I have a sleeping tip

996
00:44:17,213 --> 00:44:19,573
Speaker 2: that you might know, but it's changing my life and

997
00:44:19,613 --> 00:44:21,893
Speaker 2: I feel like I need to share it after the

998
00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:24,853
Speaker 2: news because if you don't know it, it'll make your

999
00:44:24,893 --> 00:44:28,212
Speaker 2: life better or this is a good it's changing my life.

1000
00:44:28,253 --> 00:44:30,373
Speaker 2: This thing I just learned a couple of weeks ago

1001
00:44:30,733 --> 00:44:32,772
Speaker 2: and I want to share it for.

1002
00:44:32,693 --> 00:44:34,772
Speaker 3: The good of the nation. This is going to be good.

1003
00:44:35,013 --> 00:44:37,973
Speaker 3: Four to two Backbury shortly year on News Talk.

1004
00:44:37,893 --> 00:45:18,093
Speaker 1: Zibya Zidby talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath

1005
00:45:18,133 --> 00:45:22,093
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four News

1006
00:45:22,173 --> 00:45:22,893
Speaker 1: Talk zaid Beat.

1007
00:45:23,773 --> 00:45:26,652
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. Yes, Matt and Tyler until

1008
00:45:26,693 --> 00:45:29,733
Speaker 3: four pm. Hope you're having a great shoesday now. Before

1009
00:45:30,253 --> 00:45:33,413
Speaker 3: the news, Matt, you mentioned we sleep tip that you've

1010
00:45:33,453 --> 00:45:35,053
Speaker 3: read about that has changed your life.

1011
00:45:35,173 --> 00:45:37,253
Speaker 4: This is changing my life absolutely. I actually watched on

1012
00:45:37,253 --> 00:45:38,853
Speaker 4: a YouTube clip with some guy called the.

1013
00:45:38,733 --> 00:45:41,093
Speaker 2: Doctor Sleep humulating name, but he had some good advice

1014
00:45:41,133 --> 00:45:42,573
Speaker 2: that I've been using because.

1015
00:45:42,493 --> 00:45:43,333
Speaker 3: You know you're sleeping.

1016
00:45:43,853 --> 00:45:45,733
Speaker 2: It's all very well to go to bed on time,

1017
00:45:46,133 --> 00:45:48,933
Speaker 2: but you when you wake up in the middle of

1018
00:45:48,973 --> 00:45:52,773
Speaker 2: the night then and you can't get back to sleep.

1019
00:45:52,813 --> 00:45:54,533
Speaker 3: I guess that's a big issue.

1020
00:45:54,533 --> 00:45:56,813
Speaker 2: It is, And what doctor Sleep was pointing out something

1021
00:45:56,813 --> 00:45:58,333
Speaker 2: that I didn't know that a lot of that was

1022
00:45:58,333 --> 00:46:00,652
Speaker 2: to do with the beating of your heart, how high

1023
00:46:00,693 --> 00:46:02,333
Speaker 2: your heart beat has and actually go back to sleep,

1024
00:46:02,373 --> 00:46:05,373
Speaker 2: your heartbeat has to come right down. So say you

1025
00:46:05,373 --> 00:46:07,813
Speaker 2: need to get up to visit the bathroom. Some of

1026
00:46:07,853 --> 00:46:09,493
Speaker 2: us have to a couple of times in the evening

1027
00:46:09,493 --> 00:46:12,493
Speaker 2: because we've got weak pelvic floors. When you get up,

1028
00:46:12,733 --> 00:46:14,453
Speaker 2: you're getting out of bed, and the walking to the

1029
00:46:14,453 --> 00:46:17,613
Speaker 2: bathroom increases your heart rate massive makes sense quite a lot,

1030
00:46:17,933 --> 00:46:20,533
Speaker 2: and actually really fast, because you've gone from completely and

1031
00:46:20,653 --> 00:46:24,613
Speaker 2: utterly docile docile to up and about. So your heart's

1032
00:46:24,613 --> 00:46:28,453
Speaker 2: going but you can't go back to sleep until your

1033
00:46:28,453 --> 00:46:31,773
Speaker 2: heart beat comes down. And there's a very very simple way.

1034
00:46:31,653 --> 00:46:32,053
Speaker 3: To do that.

1035
00:46:32,533 --> 00:46:35,813
Speaker 2: And you might have heard this before, and I had,

1036
00:46:35,813 --> 00:46:37,813
Speaker 2: but I stopped doing it and it's been changing my

1037
00:46:37,853 --> 00:46:38,333
Speaker 2: life recently.

1038
00:46:38,413 --> 00:46:40,613
Speaker 3: So what you do is you breathe in for nine seconds.

1039
00:46:42,493 --> 00:46:43,813
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I've got that wrong.

1040
00:46:43,853 --> 00:46:46,133
Speaker 2: You breathe in for seven seconds, yep, hold it for

1041
00:46:46,133 --> 00:46:48,293
Speaker 2: four seconds, and then breathe.

1042
00:46:48,093 --> 00:46:50,533
Speaker 3: Out for nine seconds the seven for nine track.

1043
00:46:50,693 --> 00:46:53,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do that, and that has been scientifically

1044
00:46:53,253 --> 00:46:55,493
Speaker 2: proven to lower your heart rate. And so if you

1045
00:46:55,533 --> 00:46:59,853
Speaker 2: concentrate on just that breathing seven for nine, then you

1046
00:46:59,893 --> 00:47:03,293
Speaker 2: can actually feel your heart beat lowering. And this has

1047
00:47:03,373 --> 00:47:05,293
Speaker 2: changed everything for me. And then before I know what,

1048
00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:07,253
Speaker 2: I'm back to sleep because I didn't think about that

1049
00:47:07,613 --> 00:47:10,733
Speaker 2: heart rate. And it makes a question whether you really

1050
00:47:10,773 --> 00:47:12,573
Speaker 2: need to get up and visit the bathroom and all

1051
00:47:12,573 --> 00:47:15,773
Speaker 2: those normal things that don't turn lights on, any lights,

1052
00:47:15,893 --> 00:47:18,493
Speaker 2: checking your phone or you know, finding out what time

1053
00:47:18,533 --> 00:47:20,293
Speaker 2: it is. Any of those kind of things will keep

1054
00:47:20,293 --> 00:47:20,733
Speaker 2: you awake.

1055
00:47:20,773 --> 00:47:23,093
Speaker 3: It's what navy seals do, isn't it. I'm sure that

1056
00:47:23,253 --> 00:47:25,653
Speaker 3: was their technique to calm them down and snipe just

1057
00:47:25,773 --> 00:47:28,213
Speaker 3: before and a sniper sniper, they need to have their

1058
00:47:28,213 --> 00:47:29,813
Speaker 3: heart beat low before they fire.

1059
00:47:30,253 --> 00:47:32,533
Speaker 2: But seriously, try it. If you're waking up in the

1060
00:47:32,533 --> 00:47:36,253
Speaker 2: middle of the night, try this seven for nine. And

1061
00:47:36,293 --> 00:47:38,813
Speaker 2: I've been sleeping, you know, I'm waking up just as much,

1062
00:47:38,813 --> 00:47:40,493
Speaker 2: but I'm being able to get back to sleep better.

1063
00:47:40,493 --> 00:47:43,813
Speaker 3: Live in everybody right, great zip, Now, this is going

1064
00:47:43,893 --> 00:47:47,213
Speaker 3: to be a good discussion our fresco dining and this

1065
00:47:47,373 --> 00:47:50,453
Speaker 3: is specifically in Totonger and Mount Monganui, but this happens

1066
00:47:50,453 --> 00:47:54,093
Speaker 3: across the board in New Zealand. There has been some

1067
00:47:54,173 --> 00:47:58,053
Speaker 3: concern about the fees being charged to cafes and restaurants,

1068
00:47:58,053 --> 00:48:00,973
Speaker 3: and Todroong are to allow some of their tables and

1069
00:48:01,053 --> 00:48:04,653
Speaker 3: chairs to be placed on public foot baths. The council

1070
00:48:05,133 --> 00:48:07,692
Speaker 3: reintroduced the charge. They let it go for a wee

1071
00:48:07,773 --> 00:48:10,613
Speaker 3: while during the pandemic years because they thought it was

1072
00:48:10,653 --> 00:48:14,173
Speaker 3: too much for these cafes and restaurants. Reintroduced it in

1073
00:48:14,293 --> 00:48:17,413
Speaker 3: July and the charges it stands now is about seven

1074
00:48:17,493 --> 00:48:20,453
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty bucks a year. That's Edmund Coss then

1075
00:48:20,493 --> 00:48:23,172
Speaker 3: an extra one hundred and fifty bucks per square meter

1076
00:48:23,653 --> 00:48:26,293
Speaker 3: and quite rightly, the cafes and restaurants in the Mount

1077
00:48:26,493 --> 00:48:29,493
Speaker 3: and Todonga are wildly upset with these charges.

1078
00:48:29,653 --> 00:48:34,453
Speaker 2: So right now in Auckland and Christchurch and Wellington they

1079
00:48:34,853 --> 00:48:38,013
Speaker 2: charge alfresco dining fees for cafes and bars.

1080
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:41,533
Speaker 3: Yep, correct different charges and we will find out how

1081
00:48:41,573 --> 00:48:45,733
Speaker 3: much they actually charge. In Auckland and christ Church always controversial.

1082
00:48:45,813 --> 00:48:48,653
Speaker 3: It is controversial in christ Churge, controversial up here in Auckland,

1083
00:48:48,853 --> 00:48:51,013
Speaker 3: controversial in Wellington Well one hundred and.

1084
00:48:50,973 --> 00:48:51,653
Speaker 4: Eighty ten to eighty.

1085
00:48:52,013 --> 00:48:55,053
Speaker 2: Should councils be charging olfresco fees or should we be

1086
00:48:55,093 --> 00:48:58,333
Speaker 2: doing everything we can to get people out and enjoying

1087
00:48:59,053 --> 00:49:05,093
Speaker 2: beautiful cities and doing everything we can to help HOSPO

1088
00:49:05,213 --> 00:49:06,093
Speaker 2: in the difficult time.

1089
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Speaker 3: Before I get your take on there, and it's a

1090
00:49:08,893 --> 00:49:12,853
Speaker 3: good take, a hot take, Mount Monganuy Business Association destination

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00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:16,333
Speaker 3: manager Michael Clark said O fresco dining at a vibrancy

1092
00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:18,933
Speaker 3: and helped attract visitors to the area. He's not there.

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00:49:19,693 --> 00:49:21,093
Speaker 3: He went on to say, I don't think there should

1094
00:49:21,093 --> 00:49:24,573
Speaker 3: be any charges for using these public spaces for those reasons.

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00:49:24,613 --> 00:49:27,732
Speaker 3: The co owner of Polar Dessert bar On Prince av

1096
00:49:27,973 --> 00:49:31,133
Speaker 3: said the fees came as many Mount Monganuy businesses face

1097
00:49:31,213 --> 00:49:34,333
Speaker 3: rising costs, including council rates and the price of goods.

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00:49:34,413 --> 00:49:36,573
Speaker 3: They went on to say, I don't think it's justified

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00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:40,413
Speaker 3: for our council to charge us significantly more for street

1100
00:49:40,453 --> 00:49:43,493
Speaker 3: dining spaces than other main centers. This is just piling

1101
00:49:43,573 --> 00:49:47,653
Speaker 3: even more misery onto businesses already struggling, and you'd agreed

1102
00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:48,453
Speaker 3: with those businesses.

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00:49:49,173 --> 00:49:50,933
Speaker 2: I guess the question is what do we want from

1104
00:49:51,373 --> 00:49:56,053
Speaker 2: our cities. We want a thriving, thriving hospo industry, and

1105
00:49:56,093 --> 00:49:58,053
Speaker 2: we want people out and about. We want people getting

1106
00:49:58,053 --> 00:50:00,693
Speaker 2: out of their houses, we want people spending time together

1107
00:50:00,893 --> 00:50:04,933
Speaker 2: in the community, and we don't want businesses going out

1108
00:50:05,013 --> 00:50:09,772
Speaker 2: of business because of fees like this. And I would

1109
00:50:09,773 --> 00:50:12,693
Speaker 2: say personally that that's the council's One of the councils

1110
00:50:12,853 --> 00:50:15,693
Speaker 2: of any city's primary jobs is to make sure that

1111
00:50:15,773 --> 00:50:19,373
Speaker 2: we have harming districts, huming entertainment districts.

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00:50:19,773 --> 00:50:21,453
Speaker 3: And a lot of people will agree with you. But

1113
00:50:21,653 --> 00:50:25,493
Speaker 3: here's the response from the council why they have reintroduced

1114
00:50:25,493 --> 00:50:29,413
Speaker 3: these charges. So City Council City Development and Partnerships General

1115
00:50:29,453 --> 00:50:33,493
Speaker 3: Manager Gareth Willis said the council fully sympathized with the

1116
00:50:33,533 --> 00:50:37,693
Speaker 3: hospital businesses facing tough times, but he said it's important

1117
00:50:37,733 --> 00:50:40,893
Speaker 3: to have written street dining agreements with businesses to ensure

1118
00:50:40,933 --> 00:50:44,853
Speaker 3: pedestrians can properly access spaces.

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00:50:44,973 --> 00:50:47,613
Speaker 2: Yeah mate, sure, good one, but that doesn't mean that

1120
00:50:47,653 --> 00:50:50,053
Speaker 2: you need to charge them for it. You can just

1121
00:50:50,093 --> 00:50:54,213
Speaker 2: make some rules around where the tables are and negotiate

1122
00:50:54,253 --> 00:50:57,853
Speaker 2: with the businesses on that. If you're worried about pedestrians

1123
00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:00,613
Speaker 2: not having enough space to walk past, etc. You don't

1124
00:51:00,653 --> 00:51:03,212
Speaker 2: need to then charge them per meter.

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00:51:03,653 --> 00:51:05,853
Speaker 3: But how much of the footpath are they taking up here?

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00:51:06,013 --> 00:51:08,253
Speaker 3: It's got to be done discreetly, right, we're just talk

1127
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:11,053
Speaker 3: looking one part of the pedestrian footpath that they take

1128
00:51:11,133 --> 00:51:12,733
Speaker 3: up with their tables and chairs. They're not blocking the

1129
00:51:12,773 --> 00:51:13,253
Speaker 3: whole football.

1130
00:51:13,293 --> 00:51:15,453
Speaker 2: That's a totally different issue to charging them for it.

1131
00:51:15,693 --> 00:51:21,812
Speaker 2: That's just an issue around space and practicality, and I'm sure,

1132
00:51:21,893 --> 00:51:24,413
Speaker 2: go for your life. Council make some rules around that,

1133
00:51:24,653 --> 00:51:27,933
Speaker 2: but you should be airing on the side in my opinion,

1134
00:51:28,213 --> 00:51:35,453
Speaker 2: of making El Fresco dining and hospo in general more

1135
00:51:35,493 --> 00:51:39,333
Speaker 2: successful and greasing the wheels for them rather than adding

1136
00:51:39,333 --> 00:51:43,013
Speaker 2: costs on top of what unnecessary costs in my opinion,

1137
00:51:43,013 --> 00:51:45,093
Speaker 2: on top of what they're already difficult times.

1138
00:51:45,293 --> 00:51:47,253
Speaker 3: You're hot on this. I love it. Oh eight hundred

1139
00:51:47,333 --> 00:51:49,653
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. Do you agree with matt here or

1140
00:51:49,693 --> 00:51:52,213
Speaker 3: do you think the council has a right to charge

1141
00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:55,733
Speaker 3: the pedestrian? The footpaths are owned by everybody, so what

1142
00:51:55,773 --> 00:51:57,773
Speaker 3: they're doing there is saying, hey, you can use it,

1143
00:51:57,853 --> 00:52:00,133
Speaker 3: but we're going to charge your fees because you don't

1144
00:52:00,173 --> 00:52:03,013
Speaker 3: actually pay rent on that footpath. That's the rationale. Are

1145
00:52:03,133 --> 00:52:07,133
Speaker 3: going to charge pedestrians for walking part the space they take.

1146
00:52:08,373 --> 00:52:10,013
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number

1147
00:52:10,013 --> 00:52:14,733
Speaker 3: to call. It is fourteen pass two.

1148
00:52:13,733 --> 00:52:18,453
Speaker 1: Your new home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams Afternoon call.

1149
00:52:18,613 --> 00:52:20,172
Speaker 5: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1150
00:52:20,333 --> 00:52:24,533
Speaker 3: News Talk said, good afternoon, it is sixteen past two.

1151
00:52:24,533 --> 00:52:27,133
Speaker 3: We're talking about a fresco dining. It's kicked off in

1152
00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:30,453
Speaker 3: Tyrong and Mount Mong and Nui. The council has reintroduced

1153
00:52:30,693 --> 00:52:33,813
Speaker 3: the charges to cafes and restaurants that want to utilize

1154
00:52:33,853 --> 00:52:36,653
Speaker 3: the footpaths for a bit of alfresco outdoor dining.

1155
00:52:36,853 --> 00:52:40,252
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I say, do everything you can to support HOSPO.

1156
00:52:40,853 --> 00:52:44,093
Speaker 2: Don't add extra costs that seem unecessary to me. And

1157
00:52:44,253 --> 00:52:46,212
Speaker 2: look in a second, I don't want to slow things down,

1158
00:52:46,213 --> 00:52:50,573
Speaker 2: but I've found something shocking about the world, the word alfresco.

1159
00:52:51,573 --> 00:52:54,053
Speaker 2: And when I share that, I guarantee it'll blow your mind.

1160
00:52:54,053 --> 00:52:56,173
Speaker 2: It's going to change the world, change everything when I

1161
00:52:56,213 --> 00:52:56,573
Speaker 2: share that.

1162
00:52:56,613 --> 00:52:58,933
Speaker 3: But just not not yet. Bryce, what's your take on

1163
00:52:58,973 --> 00:53:01,053
Speaker 3: this one?

1164
00:53:01,373 --> 00:53:03,613
Speaker 17: This one hundred and something dollars that they've got to

1165
00:53:03,613 --> 00:53:06,893
Speaker 17: pay for meter? Yeah, the first square meter is per

1166
00:53:07,053 --> 00:53:08,293
Speaker 17: year or per day at a.

1167
00:53:08,453 --> 00:53:11,253
Speaker 3: Peers to be per year, peers to be per year.

1168
00:53:12,093 --> 00:53:16,613
Speaker 17: So per meter that were to be something like twenty

1169
00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:21,973
Speaker 17: cents a day. Yeah, so that's some of the cheapest rents.

1170
00:53:22,413 --> 00:53:25,333
Speaker 3: Ever, I reckon, we need to look into that. I

1171
00:53:25,373 --> 00:53:25,973
Speaker 3: don't think it is.

1172
00:53:26,053 --> 00:53:26,573
Speaker 7: I think.

1173
00:53:28,253 --> 00:53:32,773
Speaker 17: You carry on, Bryce, It's well, if it's one hundred

1174
00:53:32,813 --> 00:53:34,453
Speaker 17: and something to say, what was it one.

1175
00:53:34,453 --> 00:53:39,652
Speaker 24: Hundred dollars A yeah, we'll just read out the word

1176
00:53:39,653 --> 00:53:40,133
Speaker 24: in we do.

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00:53:40,373 --> 00:53:43,133
Speaker 3: We might try and get the Totung City Council on

1178
00:53:43,173 --> 00:53:44,533
Speaker 3: the phone here. So I'm just going to read this

1179
00:53:44,613 --> 00:53:48,773
Speaker 3: out verbatim. So the fees for Mount Main Street businesses

1180
00:53:48,773 --> 00:53:51,013
Speaker 3: for the next financial year will be one hundred and

1181
00:53:51,013 --> 00:53:54,573
Speaker 3: fifty dollars per square meter of street use and half

1182
00:53:54,653 --> 00:53:57,652
Speaker 3: that for Mount Central. They would also have to pay

1183
00:53:57,733 --> 00:54:00,973
Speaker 3: GST in a five hundred dollars administration fee. Now, just

1184
00:54:01,013 --> 00:54:04,973
Speaker 3: to put that into context with Auckland. So they found

1185
00:54:05,053 --> 00:54:07,813
Speaker 3: Auckland charged four hundred and one dollars a year permit

1186
00:54:07,813 --> 00:54:10,253
Speaker 3: fee plus twenty one dollars to one hundred and fifty

1187
00:54:10,253 --> 00:54:13,213
Speaker 3: four dollars a square meter, So that says to me

1188
00:54:13,293 --> 00:54:15,733
Speaker 3: it is per year. But we're going to try and

1189
00:54:15,733 --> 00:54:18,373
Speaker 3: get a hold of Totong District Council and find out

1190
00:54:18,373 --> 00:54:18,853
Speaker 3: about that.

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00:54:18,893 --> 00:54:24,732
Speaker 17: Well, if you work at a that's my limited mass

1192
00:54:24,773 --> 00:54:25,733
Speaker 17: around its twenty.

1193
00:54:25,533 --> 00:54:26,053
Speaker 25: Cents a day.

1194
00:54:26,893 --> 00:54:30,213
Speaker 17: But I don't agree with the seven hundred or whatever

1195
00:54:30,373 --> 00:54:36,413
Speaker 17: the administration. I don't agree with that. I think what

1196
00:54:36,493 --> 00:54:40,293
Speaker 17: you do is if you're applying for say six square

1197
00:54:40,373 --> 00:54:43,773
Speaker 17: meters at one hundred and fifty one hundred and twenty

1198
00:54:43,813 --> 00:54:48,613
Speaker 17: whatever dollars per year, you actually cost you for seven

1199
00:54:48,773 --> 00:54:52,772
Speaker 17: because they had one square meter as the administration feet

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00:54:52,853 --> 00:54:57,533
Speaker 17: for the year. The other thing that I have and

1201
00:54:58,413 --> 00:55:01,053
Speaker 17: sowing we're in the mountain are already notorious for this

1202
00:55:01,893 --> 00:55:05,893
Speaker 17: is when the restaurants get given a two meters, they

1203
00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:09,853
Speaker 17: take the full foot path and people in wheelchairs, people

1204
00:55:09,893 --> 00:55:16,253
Speaker 17: are with friends and pushchairs and that can't get past

1205
00:55:16,373 --> 00:55:19,493
Speaker 17: these places because well, you've got the people dining, but

1206
00:55:19,613 --> 00:55:21,573
Speaker 17: you've got all the mates that have stopped to talk

1207
00:55:21,613 --> 00:55:23,053
Speaker 17: to them as well.

1208
00:55:23,053 --> 00:55:24,893
Speaker 2: I guess that's a I guess that's a that's a

1209
00:55:24,893 --> 00:55:27,733
Speaker 2: slightly different issue though, I mean, if if you've got

1210
00:55:27,733 --> 00:55:31,413
Speaker 2: a zone that's that's assigned to you and your charge,

1211
00:55:32,013 --> 00:55:34,853
Speaker 2: and then that that's one thing. But I mean, of

1212
00:55:34,853 --> 00:55:37,973
Speaker 2: course a cafe can't take up the whole the whole

1213
00:55:38,013 --> 00:55:43,493
Speaker 2: pavement or else obviously. I mean it's it's it's designed for.

1214
00:55:43,613 --> 00:55:45,253
Speaker 2: I mean, you have the you have the pavement for

1215
00:55:45,253 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 2: people to walk down as well, but I mean you

1216
00:55:47,613 --> 00:55:50,053
Speaker 2: built bigger, wider pavements. If there's a big wide pavement,

1217
00:55:50,133 --> 00:55:53,413
Speaker 2: then then there's there's nothing better than then walking down

1218
00:55:53,413 --> 00:55:56,173
Speaker 2: a road and being out in the community with a

1219
00:55:56,213 --> 00:55:58,533
Speaker 2: lot of people sitting out and having a good time.

1220
00:55:58,573 --> 00:55:59,973
Speaker 4: It's it's community with.

1221
00:56:00,093 --> 00:56:02,253
Speaker 3: That change if it's a monthly charge, because I believe

1222
00:56:02,253 --> 00:56:04,333
Speaker 3: it is. I've found some more information here. So this

1223
00:56:04,453 --> 00:56:06,732
Speaker 3: is from the co owner of the Phoenix Bar on

1224
00:56:06,813 --> 00:56:09,533
Speaker 3: the Strand, and he used to make the annual rental

1225
00:56:09,573 --> 00:56:12,613
Speaker 3: for the two outdoor spaces he was negotiating to use

1226
00:56:12,853 --> 00:56:15,333
Speaker 3: would be about six grand a year. So that is

1227
00:56:15,333 --> 00:56:17,933
Speaker 3: a fifty charge. So I think the admin cost of

1228
00:56:18,053 --> 00:56:20,973
Speaker 3: five hundred bucks per year, but then the cost per

1229
00:56:21,053 --> 00:56:23,853
Speaker 3: square meter of outdoor usage has probably charged at a

1230
00:56:23,853 --> 00:56:28,773
Speaker 3: monthly rate, right, Okay, would you support this?

1231
00:56:28,853 --> 00:56:29,133
Speaker 4: Bryce?

1232
00:56:29,173 --> 00:56:32,533
Speaker 2: What happens if you you know, you don't charge the

1233
00:56:32,573 --> 00:56:35,613
Speaker 2: cafes for the space if there is room to go pass,

1234
00:56:35,933 --> 00:56:40,813
Speaker 2: but potentially fines if the if they're outside of the

1235
00:56:40,893 --> 00:56:44,373
Speaker 2: area that's been assigned to them.

1236
00:56:44,533 --> 00:56:47,973
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'd agree with that. You have to very clearly

1237
00:56:48,053 --> 00:56:51,013
Speaker 17: market that make it so those marks could have just

1238
00:56:51,093 --> 00:56:52,373
Speaker 17: been scrubbed out for food.

1239
00:56:52,893 --> 00:56:55,613
Speaker 3: Put up a shrubbery, yeah, put up a shrubbery. Yeah,

1240
00:56:55,653 --> 00:56:59,172
Speaker 3: thank you very much. Bryce. It is twenty one to two.

1241
00:56:59,293 --> 00:57:00,373
Speaker 3: Back fore shortly.

1242
00:57:04,373 --> 00:57:08,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1243
00:57:08,053 --> 00:57:09,493
Speaker 1: ten on talk Z.

1244
00:57:10,373 --> 00:57:12,333
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Now met you had a

1245
00:57:12,373 --> 00:57:13,773
Speaker 3: bit of a factoid about the word.

1246
00:57:14,493 --> 00:57:16,413
Speaker 2: I remember when I remember growing up in Dneda and

1247
00:57:16,493 --> 00:57:20,093
Speaker 2: when they extended the pavements down George Street and everyone

1248
00:57:20,133 --> 00:57:22,893
Speaker 2: got excited about the world word of alfresco dining. Great

1249
00:57:22,933 --> 00:57:25,853
Speaker 2: word which you can't always do in Dunedin. Beautiful city,

1250
00:57:25,933 --> 00:57:27,853
Speaker 2: pretty city. I love love that town more than anything

1251
00:57:27,853 --> 00:57:28,973
Speaker 2: in the world. But I've got to say there are

1252
00:57:29,533 --> 00:57:31,413
Speaker 2: some days where you'd be crazy to try.

1253
00:57:31,293 --> 00:57:34,133
Speaker 3: And alfresco dine. But I remember the word going around

1254
00:57:34,213 --> 00:57:34,373
Speaker 3: and I.

1255
00:57:34,413 --> 00:57:36,613
Speaker 2: First learned it. I saw it in the Attago Daily Times.

1256
00:57:36,613 --> 00:57:39,413
Speaker 2: I was like, a fresco, how fancy? A fresco isn't

1257
00:57:39,493 --> 00:57:43,013
Speaker 2: actually a term used in Italian. It's not actually alien.

1258
00:57:43,173 --> 00:57:45,933
Speaker 3: Because it just screams to me European alfresco dining.

1259
00:57:46,053 --> 00:57:48,733
Speaker 2: It does, and it's a it's a it's a word

1260
00:57:48,813 --> 00:57:53,173
Speaker 2: we've thrown together and out in English, which is which

1261
00:57:53,253 --> 00:57:55,133
Speaker 2: is saying cool, fresh air.

1262
00:57:55,613 --> 00:57:57,653
Speaker 4: But the Italians don't say that at all. They say

1263
00:57:57,973 --> 00:57:58,653
Speaker 4: a la perto.

1264
00:57:59,293 --> 00:58:02,853
Speaker 3: Well, that's even better, a liberto.

1265
00:58:02,653 --> 00:58:07,693
Speaker 2: So alfresco, which just means basically fresh air. That's that's

1266
00:58:07,733 --> 00:58:11,613
Speaker 2: the creation of English mine blowing.

1267
00:58:11,813 --> 00:58:13,933
Speaker 3: It's mind blowing, mind blowing.

1268
00:58:14,133 --> 00:58:14,413
Speaker 25: Pete.

1269
00:58:14,893 --> 00:58:18,973
Speaker 3: Firstly, our fresco versus the Italian version, what would you prefer?

1270
00:58:21,653 --> 00:58:27,773
Speaker 9: Yeah, I reckon, yeah, Italian, I suppose, but it's spoke

1271
00:58:27,853 --> 00:58:30,573
Speaker 9: to produce it. Then about it buy? You know it

1272
00:58:30,653 --> 00:58:34,013
Speaker 9: should be free, but I suppose you have to look

1273
00:58:34,013 --> 00:58:36,133
Speaker 9: at it a bit of this way too. The counts

1274
00:58:36,253 --> 00:58:39,693
Speaker 9: is looking for money. But as long as I think

1275
00:58:39,773 --> 00:58:41,973
Speaker 9: there should be maybe a little bit of a fee,

1276
00:58:42,093 --> 00:58:44,733
Speaker 9: because if you buy a business and you're you're going

1277
00:58:44,773 --> 00:58:47,453
Speaker 9: to pay per square meet asami, it doesn't want you

1278
00:58:47,493 --> 00:58:49,413
Speaker 9: tay per scream you buy a shop, or at least

1279
00:58:49,413 --> 00:58:51,973
Speaker 9: out a shop or whatever. You got to park on me.

1280
00:58:52,133 --> 00:58:53,973
Speaker 9: You and I got a paper parking to use the

1281
00:58:54,373 --> 00:58:58,613
Speaker 9: parking parks in the towns and stuff like that, so

1282
00:58:59,053 --> 00:59:00,893
Speaker 9: I don't hit them too hard in the pocket. So

1283
00:59:01,733 --> 00:59:03,933
Speaker 9: maybe a little bit of a fee, but don't be

1284
00:59:04,013 --> 00:59:06,493
Speaker 9: too greedy about it. So if I, if I, if

1285
00:59:06,533 --> 00:59:09,293
Speaker 9: I get into the restaurant business, and I saying okay,

1286
00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:12,693
Speaker 9: I've got a choice of maybe putting some chetes outside

1287
00:59:12,773 --> 00:59:15,933
Speaker 9: and things like that and a few tables, maybe two

1288
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:19,493
Speaker 9: fifty or three hundred dollars for a year a reasonable fee.

1289
00:59:19,733 --> 00:59:21,613
Speaker 9: It's still a little bit of money for the council,

1290
00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,213
Speaker 9: but not over the top, so it's a happy medium

1291
00:59:25,413 --> 00:59:27,533
Speaker 9: get into and to a shot. Might want to extend.

1292
00:59:27,773 --> 00:59:29,693
Speaker 9: I'll use that boot pathod, but I do have to pay,

1293
00:59:29,773 --> 00:59:31,853
Speaker 9: you know, didn't even get into it for to us

1294
00:59:31,893 --> 00:59:33,693
Speaker 9: for two fifty three hundred just a little bit of

1295
00:59:33,693 --> 00:59:35,333
Speaker 9: a fece. It's a bit of money for the council.

1296
00:59:35,653 --> 00:59:37,973
Speaker 9: About going over the top. Not but along as it's

1297
00:59:38,093 --> 00:59:40,453
Speaker 9: health and safety, so people can still use the boot

1298
00:59:40,533 --> 00:59:43,453
Speaker 9: path for pedestrians and stuff like that, and the mobility

1299
00:59:43,493 --> 00:59:46,293
Speaker 9: stoodents can still use the heavy access of that footpath

1300
00:59:46,453 --> 00:59:47,373
Speaker 9: and that's pretty fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Pete, would you say, though this is slightly

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Speaker 2: on a wider sort of view of it, would you say,

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00:59:53,933 --> 00:59:58,773
Speaker 2: pert dining, I'll go back to Alfrisco al Frisco dining

1304
00:59:58,893 --> 01:00:03,053
Speaker 2: as a thing is a great thing for a city,

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01:00:03,333 --> 01:00:05,493
Speaker 2: and it's a great thing for community, and it's something

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01:00:05,533 --> 01:00:07,573
Speaker 2: that we want to encourage as long.

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Speaker 4: As it's not getting the way of mobility scooters and such.

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Speaker 9: I think so because you want to probably all know

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01:00:13,973 --> 01:00:16,773
Speaker 9: the councils of Kilda cities, Auckland. We will know exactly

1310
01:00:17,133 --> 01:00:19,693
Speaker 9: and how can we get these cities back to where

1311
01:00:19,733 --> 01:00:21,453
Speaker 9: they used to go. You scuff Aukland a lot of times.

1312
01:00:21,493 --> 01:00:23,573
Speaker 9: I don't go up there much now. You know, five

1313
01:00:23,613 --> 01:00:25,013
Speaker 9: beteen years in the World Cup and it was going

1314
01:00:25,053 --> 01:00:27,333
Speaker 9: two thousand and lift. It was thriving up there in

1315
01:00:27,413 --> 01:00:30,133
Speaker 9: al So you want to get it back to that again.

1316
01:00:30,413 --> 01:00:31,893
Speaker 9: At the end of the day, I will still reckon

1317
01:00:31,973 --> 01:00:34,933
Speaker 9: you certain center of the sea. That's your heart.

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01:00:35,013 --> 01:00:36,893
Speaker 13: It's like on your body.

1319
01:00:37,253 --> 01:00:38,413
Speaker 9: Start making out with your heart.

1320
01:00:38,253 --> 01:00:38,853
Speaker 7: To kill it.

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01:00:39,253 --> 01:00:41,213
Speaker 3: The more I think about it, they are the places

1322
01:00:41,293 --> 01:00:43,773
Speaker 3: where you can have our fresco dining in a city.

1323
01:00:43,813 --> 01:00:46,813
Speaker 3: In New Zealand. That is where you go to get

1324
01:00:46,893 --> 01:00:49,253
Speaker 3: some some great food or some hospital service, isn't it

1325
01:00:49,493 --> 01:00:53,213
Speaker 3: Trafalgar Street and Nelson just down by the waterfront in Queenstown.

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01:00:53,373 --> 01:00:56,493
Speaker 3: Probably the viaduct in Auckland. Maybe that's changed now. I

1327
01:00:56,573 --> 01:00:59,293
Speaker 3: mean it is you just zero went like most a flame.

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01:00:59,373 --> 01:01:01,453
Speaker 3: If there's outdoor dining, that is where the.

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01:01:01,453 --> 01:01:04,213
Speaker 2: People go, and it is an advertisement for your business

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01:01:04,733 --> 01:01:06,533
Speaker 2: if you if you're running a restaurant, if people are

1331
01:01:06,533 --> 01:01:09,093
Speaker 2: sitting out the front having a good time, then then

1332
01:01:09,413 --> 01:01:11,653
Speaker 2: that attracts more people to come and more business and

1333
01:01:11,733 --> 01:01:15,413
Speaker 2: more people to the area. If everything's behind closed doors,

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01:01:15,853 --> 01:01:18,613
Speaker 2: it's it's a bit like the Michael Hall Julius Jewelius situation.

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01:01:18,733 --> 01:01:20,613
Speaker 2: He worked out this a long time ago. If you

1336
01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:22,773
Speaker 2: open things up so people can see what's going on,

1337
01:01:23,693 --> 01:01:25,733
Speaker 2: then they not that he's selling jeweler out on the streets.

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01:01:25,773 --> 01:01:28,533
Speaker 2: It's probably not the perfect example, but what I mean

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01:01:28,653 --> 01:01:31,493
Speaker 2: is that you're advertising your business. The food's out and

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01:01:31,493 --> 01:01:34,893
Speaker 2: people are walking past. It creates a vibrant hospit and

1341
01:01:35,253 --> 01:01:38,253
Speaker 2: environment and what makes people want to come into these

1342
01:01:38,333 --> 01:01:39,493
Speaker 2: businesses and be part of them.

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01:01:39,653 --> 01:01:41,613
Speaker 3: I always go for the garden bar if i'm eying

1344
01:01:41,653 --> 01:01:44,053
Speaker 3: up a pub. If it's got a good garden bar, boom,

1345
01:01:44,253 --> 01:01:46,533
Speaker 3: that's me. If it doesn't have a good garden bar, I.

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Speaker 4: Always feel like I've been downgraded if I have to

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Speaker 4: go inside.

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01:01:50,613 --> 01:01:52,733
Speaker 2: You know, my favorite bar if I find if it's

1349
01:01:52,773 --> 01:01:56,253
Speaker 2: too busy, and there's a particular one that I go

1350
01:01:56,373 --> 01:01:58,093
Speaker 2: to if it's too busy outside in the garden.

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01:01:58,133 --> 01:02:00,413
Speaker 3: But ere, I'm like somewhere else. I don't want to

1352
01:02:00,453 --> 01:02:05,573
Speaker 3: go downgraded to the dark, dingy inside. Julian, how do

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01:02:05,573 --> 01:02:06,373
Speaker 3: you feel about this one?

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Speaker 26: I'm good, let's think it stakes. I mean, what do

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01:02:09,853 --> 01:02:11,733
Speaker 26: you know you're paying your whether it is to meet

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01:02:11,893 --> 01:02:14,493
Speaker 26: what the council give you for that. Do they come

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01:02:14,533 --> 01:02:16,293
Speaker 26: along and clean it every day? I mean it's a

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01:02:16,373 --> 01:02:19,613
Speaker 26: two yak billboard. It's a twoy billboard there straight away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: I mean, you know, if you've got a business and

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Speaker 26: a cafe, you you keep it spotlessly clean. Nobody's going

1362
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Speaker 26: to come out there if it's covered in chewing gum,

1363
01:02:29,333 --> 01:02:32,893
Speaker 26: all sorts of stuff. Yeah, if you're if you're in Europe,

1364
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Speaker 26: I mean, I've been lucky to travel a fair bit.

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Speaker 26: You go to Italy, round Spain, Morocco, Turkey, you pay

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Speaker 26: a different price for eating inside as opposed to outside.

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01:02:44,213 --> 01:02:46,693
Speaker 3: Right, so you pay a premium to eat Alfrisco.

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Speaker 26: Well, look, I can't remember which way it works, but

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Speaker 26: you know I would go in and get an expresso

1370
01:02:52,493 --> 01:02:55,413
Speaker 26: because there's no way you can get a decent cappuccino anywhere,

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01:02:55,493 --> 01:02:57,893
Speaker 26: because I used to put it down to the bressas,

1372
01:02:57,933 --> 01:03:01,093
Speaker 26: but it's actually to do with the milk. So try

1373
01:03:01,093 --> 01:03:03,773
Speaker 26: to get to get a decent cappuccino in Italy and

1374
01:03:03,933 --> 01:03:06,453
Speaker 26: it's just a waste of time. So I would have expresso,

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Speaker 26: and sometimes I would pay two euro and sometimes I

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01:03:09,813 --> 01:03:12,453
Speaker 26: will pay one euro. And they would always ask are

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Speaker 26: you you seating outside or inside?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And in some places, like in Paris, the all it's

1380
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Speaker 2: like a grand stand outside the cafes, so you're looking

1381
01:03:22,933 --> 01:03:24,493
Speaker 2: out so you can look at all the beautiful people

1382
01:03:24,493 --> 01:03:26,573
Speaker 2: when they walk past. And that's I'd pay for that.

1383
01:03:26,853 --> 01:03:29,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, for the view. You'd pay more to eat outside,

1384
01:03:29,813 --> 01:03:32,973
Speaker 3: is what you say. In Paris, there's a lot to

1385
01:03:33,053 --> 01:03:33,333
Speaker 3: look at.

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01:03:33,493 --> 01:03:33,693
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:03:33,853 --> 01:03:36,453
Speaker 3: Oh A one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1388
01:03:36,493 --> 01:03:40,493
Speaker 3: to call. Should the councils across New Zealand and after

1389
01:03:40,573 --> 01:03:42,573
Speaker 3: this particular story in totrong are in the mount. Get

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01:03:42,653 --> 01:03:45,213
Speaker 3: rid of the charges that they are laying on the

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01:03:45,293 --> 01:03:48,413
Speaker 3: feet of the good cafes and restaurants. Oh, eight hundred

1392
01:03:48,493 --> 01:03:50,293
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty it's hap pass two.

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Speaker 14: Jus talk sai'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis It's

1394
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Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. The firearms expert has

1395
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Speaker 14: described the twenty nineteen christ Church mosker tax gunman as amateur,

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Speaker 14: low level and lacking in skills. At the second phase

1397
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Speaker 14: of the careal in quest, the Health Minister says a

1398
01:04:11,173 --> 01:04:15,453
Speaker 14: directive for Ykatur Hospital nurses to only speak English didn't

1399
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Speaker 14: come from government. Police are asking for information as they

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Speaker 14: hunt a driver who reportedly hit and seriously injured a

1401
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Speaker 14: pedestrian last night in Auckland's Puppetoy Toy. At least six

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Speaker 14: new lawsuits have been filed against US rapper Sean diddy

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Speaker 14: proposing funding at home urine tests for confirming the pregnancies

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Speaker 14: Williams and Anna Mowbray can now have their say about

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Speaker 14: their plans for a helipad at a public hearing and

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01:04:53,213 --> 01:04:56,893
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1412
01:05:10,013 --> 01:05:12,093
Speaker 14: back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for lean. So we aren't talking

1414
01:05:13,933 --> 01:05:17,693
Speaker 3: about a fresco dining fees have been reintroduced in Toron

1415
01:05:18,173 --> 01:05:20,493
Speaker 3: and Mount Long and Nui. It has riled up the

1416
01:05:20,533 --> 01:05:24,653
Speaker 3: cafe and restaurant owners. Should the fees for our fresco

1417
01:05:24,773 --> 01:05:27,413
Speaker 3: dining around New Zealand? B Wave do you say yes?

1418
01:05:27,653 --> 01:05:27,813
Speaker 7: Yes?

1419
01:05:28,293 --> 01:05:29,253
Speaker 3: Talma? What do you say?

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01:05:30,893 --> 01:05:31,013
Speaker 19: Oh?

1421
01:05:31,133 --> 01:05:31,293
Speaker 7: Sure?

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01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:33,013
Speaker 21: The fellows here look for me.

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01:05:33,893 --> 01:05:35,213
Speaker 9: I don't think it's.

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01:05:36,693 --> 01:05:38,813
Speaker 21: It doesn't bother me what they're collecting the money for,

1425
01:05:39,013 --> 01:05:43,293
Speaker 21: whether it's revenue, whether it's compliance, whether it's health and safety.

1426
01:05:44,773 --> 01:05:48,213
Speaker 21: And it doesn't even bother me. With the charges that's

1427
01:05:48,973 --> 01:05:52,533
Speaker 21: put in place. I think six grand a year. You

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01:05:52,653 --> 01:05:55,293
Speaker 21: see it for next to ten twenty meters of four

1429
01:05:55,453 --> 01:05:58,533
Speaker 21: space for a business that cheap rents. I think the

1430
01:05:58,613 --> 01:06:00,813
Speaker 21: issue is the timing of when the port and when

1431
01:06:00,853 --> 01:06:04,813
Speaker 21: everyone's struggling. Like, if your business is running top notch

1432
01:06:05,733 --> 01:06:08,213
Speaker 21: and you're making a few hundred grand a year out

1433
01:06:08,213 --> 01:06:12,013
Speaker 21: of your business, that six thousand dollars isn't going to

1434
01:06:12,093 --> 01:06:15,133
Speaker 21: have a huge impact if you're struggling to break in

1435
01:06:15,293 --> 01:06:18,093
Speaker 21: and then you just don't have the money, that that's

1436
01:06:18,173 --> 01:06:21,693
Speaker 21: the issue. And I think I think it's that businesses

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01:06:21,973 --> 01:06:25,253
Speaker 21: should pay for the faith. I think you know that

1438
01:06:25,533 --> 01:06:28,013
Speaker 21: there is upkeep and stuff and wear and tear, and

1439
01:06:28,853 --> 01:06:33,533
Speaker 21: it is basically spares extra footage for their business. But

1440
01:06:33,693 --> 01:06:35,733
Speaker 21: it's just a manner of is this the time to

1441
01:06:35,813 --> 01:06:39,413
Speaker 21: do it? And obviously you don't have to be a

1442
01:06:39,573 --> 01:06:43,213
Speaker 21: rocket scientist to know that hospitality is struggling at the

1443
01:06:43,253 --> 01:06:44,133
Speaker 21: moment and now it's.

1444
01:06:44,013 --> 01:06:44,533
Speaker 25: Not the time.

1445
01:06:45,253 --> 01:06:49,933
Speaker 2: You're exactly on a fee on people and businesses at

1446
01:06:49,973 --> 01:06:52,053
Speaker 2: a time when we should be doing everything we can

1447
01:06:52,333 --> 01:06:54,813
Speaker 2: to help out and keep them in business through through

1448
01:06:54,933 --> 01:06:57,413
Speaker 2: through a tough time. Yeah, I think you're one hundred

1449
01:06:57,413 --> 01:06:59,933
Speaker 2: percent right there, Talma. That's that's that's the thing that's.

1450
01:06:59,813 --> 01:07:02,733
Speaker 3: Really got timing that hurts. So they could reintroduce at

1451
01:07:02,773 --> 01:07:05,373
Speaker 3: once the cost of living crisis is over and they

1452
01:07:05,413 --> 01:07:06,493
Speaker 3: are holding it off for a while.

1453
01:07:06,533 --> 01:07:08,133
Speaker 2: To be fair, they're not They're not they're not doing

1454
01:07:08,173 --> 01:07:10,933
Speaker 2: it straight away. I mean I would say as well

1455
01:07:10,973 --> 01:07:14,653
Speaker 2: that alfresco dining is part of what a city is.

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01:07:15,293 --> 01:07:16,933
Speaker 2: And in the same way that you have pavements for

1457
01:07:17,013 --> 01:07:20,133
Speaker 2: people to walk down a city and a city council

1458
01:07:20,733 --> 01:07:23,013
Speaker 2: create spaces for things to happen. And one of those

1459
01:07:23,093 --> 01:07:25,613
Speaker 2: things that you want to happen is for people to

1460
01:07:25,693 --> 01:07:29,773
Speaker 2: be dining outside so places feel vibrant and there's a

1461
01:07:29,813 --> 01:07:31,653
Speaker 2: sense of community out there and a sense of fun.

1462
01:07:31,973 --> 01:07:36,093
Speaker 3: But shouldn't there be specific spaces within a CBD or

1463
01:07:36,333 --> 01:07:39,653
Speaker 3: the central Party districts you called it earlier this week,

1464
01:07:39,813 --> 01:07:44,173
Speaker 3: the CPD. Shouldn't there be specific places where alfresco dining

1465
01:07:44,373 --> 01:07:47,213
Speaker 3: is the norm. What I think they're asking for in

1466
01:07:47,293 --> 01:07:50,493
Speaker 3: Titron run Mount Monganui is that every cafe and restaurant

1467
01:07:50,493 --> 01:07:52,453
Speaker 3: should be able to get a bit of footpath space.

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01:07:52,533 --> 01:07:54,573
Speaker 2: Well, I mean not every cafe can, because I mean

1469
01:07:54,573 --> 01:07:56,333
Speaker 2: if there's not enough room for people to get past,

1470
01:07:56,453 --> 01:07:59,293
Speaker 2: you know, you can't just ram a table right in

1471
01:07:59,333 --> 01:08:03,213
Speaker 2: the middle of a pavement and you've got elderly people

1472
01:08:03,333 --> 01:08:06,813
Speaker 2: taking their people in wheelchairs having to go out onto

1473
01:08:06,853 --> 01:08:07,413
Speaker 2: the road.

1474
01:08:07,293 --> 01:08:10,573
Speaker 3: To get past that would be ridiculous. Someone's going to try, George,

1475
01:08:10,613 --> 01:08:10,933
Speaker 3: how are you?

1476
01:08:11,533 --> 01:08:11,733
Speaker 19: Yep?

1477
01:08:12,013 --> 01:08:16,653
Speaker 27: Good? In Willington, some of the business the bars and

1478
01:08:16,733 --> 01:08:19,492
Speaker 27: pubs and so on, have got seats in ukor it

1479
01:08:19,572 --> 01:08:23,653
Speaker 27: el fresco outside, but they have boxed their areas in

1480
01:08:24,013 --> 01:08:29,093
Speaker 27: with surrounding, let's say, barriers, So you're actually sitting in

1481
01:08:29,173 --> 01:08:32,692
Speaker 27: the areas that are now exclusively able to be used

1482
01:08:32,692 --> 01:08:36,093
Speaker 27: by the patrons but nobody else, which means they are

1483
01:08:36,213 --> 01:08:40,213
Speaker 27: effectively leasing the land for their business use and then

1484
01:08:40,293 --> 01:08:43,053
Speaker 27: doing whatever they like on it. And I find that

1485
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:47,533
Speaker 27: quite interesting. When I was in Paris the North recently

1486
01:08:48,612 --> 01:08:51,333
Speaker 27: on a weekend up there on a Sunday, there are

1487
01:08:51,372 --> 01:08:54,452
Speaker 27: so many cafes that had all the setting outside. But

1488
01:08:54,612 --> 01:08:57,013
Speaker 27: not only that, the Count's the friend I stayed with,

1489
01:08:58,093 --> 01:09:00,972
Speaker 27: she said that, you know, she works with the council

1490
01:09:01,213 --> 01:09:04,732
Speaker 27: and they are really supportive of the businesses and doing

1491
01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:08,892
Speaker 27: everything they can to encourage businesses to survive, work well

1492
01:09:09,213 --> 01:09:11,892
Speaker 27: on them. And not only that, the top of its

1493
01:09:11,933 --> 01:09:14,772
Speaker 27: Servit Avenue where it goes into the square used to

1494
01:09:14,853 --> 01:09:17,372
Speaker 27: be two lanes down and two lanes up. Well, they've

1495
01:09:17,412 --> 01:09:20,653
Speaker 27: taken the center lanes out and turn them into power

1496
01:09:20,772 --> 01:09:23,652
Speaker 27: or car parks, so there's more parking in the middle

1497
01:09:23,652 --> 01:09:26,333
Speaker 27: of town, right adjacent to where people want to go.

1498
01:09:26,973 --> 01:09:30,452
Speaker 27: They are really supporting people and their movements so that

1499
01:09:30,612 --> 01:09:34,333
Speaker 27: businesses can thrive, compared to Wellington, which is the opposite.

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01:09:34,973 --> 01:09:37,412
Speaker 27: Now my question with you is can you find out

1501
01:09:37,492 --> 01:09:41,612
Speaker 27: for Parmerston North do they charge Old Fresco or do

1502
01:09:41,732 --> 01:09:45,412
Speaker 27: they just give a permit to the actual businesses to open.

1503
01:09:45,812 --> 01:09:48,732
Speaker 27: My preference is not charged for the foot space, but

1504
01:09:48,933 --> 01:09:51,892
Speaker 27: to provide a permit that you pay for per year

1505
01:09:52,372 --> 01:09:54,612
Speaker 27: for the use of that end, because after all, it's

1506
01:09:54,652 --> 01:09:57,333
Speaker 27: only used for eight hours and it's closed up unless

1507
01:09:57,372 --> 01:09:59,053
Speaker 27: it's open during the night. The rest of the night

1508
01:09:59,253 --> 01:10:01,893
Speaker 27: is not being used, so you're only making use of

1509
01:10:01,973 --> 01:10:03,372
Speaker 27: that land part of the day.

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01:10:03,853 --> 01:10:06,973
Speaker 2: When you talk about the being cardened off maybe with

1511
01:10:07,973 --> 01:10:10,612
Speaker 2: a s of shrubberies around the side, I mean the

1512
01:10:10,652 --> 01:10:12,372
Speaker 2: positive part of that is because some people have been

1513
01:10:12,372 --> 01:10:14,412
Speaker 2: complaining that you have people standing around the tables and

1514
01:10:14,492 --> 01:10:17,053
Speaker 2: it's spewing out everywhere. I guess if you mark it off,

1515
01:10:17,572 --> 01:10:19,133
Speaker 2: then that is the area that's going to be used

1516
01:10:19,253 --> 01:10:21,173
Speaker 2: and there is space for people to get past.

1517
01:10:21,253 --> 01:10:22,973
Speaker 3: A nice poje of car where maybe I.

1518
01:10:22,973 --> 01:10:26,093
Speaker 19: Don't know if I'm still on or not, certainly are

1519
01:10:26,893 --> 01:10:31,093
Speaker 19: I had another question the parking meter boxes, since they

1520
01:10:31,253 --> 01:10:34,573
Speaker 19: are saying that it's a commercial use of a public footpath,

1521
01:10:35,013 --> 01:10:36,372
Speaker 19: therefore you have to charge.

1522
01:10:37,133 --> 01:10:40,293
Speaker 27: Would the council be charging themselves for where they put

1523
01:10:40,333 --> 01:10:44,333
Speaker 27: the parking meter read the units of that space there,

1524
01:10:44,412 --> 01:10:47,852
Speaker 27: because now that's exclusively used by the council, can't be

1525
01:10:48,013 --> 01:10:51,213
Speaker 27: walked through, and it's impeding traffic, And the same with

1526
01:10:51,333 --> 01:10:54,093
Speaker 27: any street signs and anything else. I was going to

1527
01:10:54,133 --> 01:10:56,093
Speaker 27: say about all the parking meters, but there's very few

1528
01:10:56,093 --> 01:10:59,532
Speaker 27: of those around there, so it's basically anything that is

1529
01:10:59,612 --> 01:11:03,212
Speaker 27: actually for commercial use on a footpath should be equally

1530
01:11:03,412 --> 01:11:04,572
Speaker 27: charged for the same thing.

1531
01:11:04,853 --> 01:11:07,732
Speaker 2: Well, well, I believe that parking charges are theft, and

1532
01:11:07,812 --> 01:11:10,652
Speaker 2: that we've all paid for the city anyway, So I

1533
01:11:10,772 --> 01:11:12,692
Speaker 2: understand parking fines of people are sitting around, But the

1534
01:11:12,732 --> 01:11:14,852
Speaker 2: fact that you charge the citizens of a city to

1535
01:11:14,933 --> 01:11:17,932
Speaker 2: park somewhere, I've never been able to get my head

1536
01:11:17,933 --> 01:11:19,173
Speaker 2: around how we let that happen.

1537
01:11:19,372 --> 01:11:21,492
Speaker 3: It's controversial, I mean, particularly up here.

1538
01:11:21,652 --> 01:11:24,652
Speaker 2: You you couldn't be very hard to wind it back now,

1539
01:11:25,093 --> 01:11:26,933
Speaker 2: but it's a pretty odd idea that we've paid for

1540
01:11:26,973 --> 01:11:28,452
Speaker 2: everything and then new charge us to sit there. I

1541
01:11:28,532 --> 01:11:30,253
Speaker 2: get there, if you I get if you find us

1542
01:11:30,293 --> 01:11:32,572
Speaker 2: for being there for too long. But I say parking

1543
01:11:32,853 --> 01:11:33,892
Speaker 2: fees are theft.

1544
01:11:34,093 --> 01:11:37,452
Speaker 3: You've opened up a candle worms there. It is twenty

1545
01:11:37,572 --> 01:11:37,972
Speaker 3: to three.

1546
01:11:39,692 --> 01:11:42,053
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred eighty

1547
01:11:43,333 --> 01:11:44,813
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons.

1548
01:11:45,093 --> 01:11:49,012
Speaker 3: You for twenty twenty four news Talk said, be good afternoon.

1549
01:11:49,053 --> 01:11:50,972
Speaker 3: You're listening to Madame Tyler and we are talking about

1550
01:11:51,013 --> 01:11:54,572
Speaker 3: a fresco dining. Now, you wanted to figure out how

1551
01:11:54,652 --> 01:11:56,692
Speaker 3: much it was going to cost for a new pub

1552
01:11:56,812 --> 01:11:59,692
Speaker 3: cafe restaurant in Auckland. Yeah, that's right, so let's run

1553
01:11:59,732 --> 01:12:01,612
Speaker 3: through it. Let's run through because I've got a calculator

1554
01:12:01,692 --> 01:12:04,452
Speaker 3: right in front of the cape. So I want to

1555
01:12:04,692 --> 01:12:08,652
Speaker 3: run an establishment and I want people dining out front.

1556
01:12:08,652 --> 01:12:10,852
Speaker 4: Okay, I want some tables out the front.

1557
01:12:10,973 --> 01:12:12,852
Speaker 3: Okay, you're right right. So I'm a council officer that

1558
01:12:12,933 --> 01:12:15,812
Speaker 3: have come to ask you some questions about your outdoor dining.

1559
01:12:16,853 --> 01:12:18,412
Speaker 3: So what's the name of your cafe.

1560
01:12:19,692 --> 01:12:24,772
Speaker 2: Let's call it Maddie's Al Fresco Grub and steam Hoole. Okay, right,

1561
01:12:25,612 --> 01:12:26,852
Speaker 2: So it's sort of classy joint.

1562
01:12:26,893 --> 01:12:28,732
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to send that to a different department

1563
01:12:28,772 --> 01:12:30,532
Speaker 3: at council. I think to get an okay on that one.

1564
01:12:30,973 --> 01:12:34,532
Speaker 3: How how big is your outdoor area? Just give me

1565
01:12:34,612 --> 01:12:35,412
Speaker 3: the square metap.

1566
01:12:35,213 --> 01:12:38,172
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna need It's going to be very successful.

1567
01:12:38,213 --> 01:12:42,012
Speaker 2: It's gonna be pretty popular, Tyler. I'm going to say,

1568
01:12:42,452 --> 01:12:45,092
Speaker 2: give me, give me twenty meters, twenty square meters.

1569
01:12:44,893 --> 01:12:47,333
Speaker 3: Twenty square meters. Okay, that's a big outdoor area. So

1570
01:12:47,452 --> 01:12:51,852
Speaker 3: your location are you city center? That excludes K Road

1571
01:12:53,452 --> 01:12:56,452
Speaker 3: and also Newton down the bottom of town here. I

1572
01:12:56,572 --> 01:13:00,133
Speaker 3: want to stay in business, so so Loo, look, put

1573
01:13:00,173 --> 01:13:02,253
Speaker 3: me on K Road, mate, put me on K Road Road.

1574
01:13:02,293 --> 01:13:02,812
Speaker 3: I came down.

1575
01:13:02,812 --> 01:13:06,372
Speaker 2: There are obviously some issues there with THETHMFETA mean enthusiasts

1576
01:13:06,412 --> 01:13:07,213
Speaker 2: walking up and down there.

1577
01:13:07,213 --> 01:13:09,333
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna open up on k Okay, yep, bold,

1578
01:13:09,452 --> 01:13:12,133
Speaker 3: And how long do you plan to use your outdoor area?

1579
01:13:12,213 --> 01:13:15,253
Speaker 3: Six months or twelve months? Twelve months? Thank you? Twelve months?

1580
01:13:15,253 --> 01:13:16,612
Speaker 2: Oh, hang in a minute, I see what you're saying.

1581
01:13:16,812 --> 01:13:18,133
Speaker 2: In the middle of the winter. No, I'm going to

1582
01:13:18,173 --> 01:13:20,492
Speaker 2: be bold. I'm gonna put up some of those guess heaters.

1583
01:13:21,492 --> 01:13:22,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna roll with a twelve.

1584
01:13:22,692 --> 01:13:24,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and roll with the twelve. I'm going to

1585
01:13:24,372 --> 01:13:24,933
Speaker 4: I want to go for it.

1586
01:13:25,013 --> 01:13:28,612
Speaker 2: I'm consistent and offer the selfresco opportunity all year round.

1587
01:13:28,732 --> 01:13:31,732
Speaker 3: Tyler, all right, So Matt Heath from cafe what was

1588
01:13:31,732 --> 01:13:37,772
Speaker 3: the name of your Cafegan Maddie's Alfresco Grub and Booze Hoole. Okay,

1589
01:13:38,213 --> 01:13:42,253
Speaker 3: So you're estimated total fee for Alfresco dining is three thousand,

1590
01:13:42,333 --> 01:13:44,772
Speaker 3: eight hundred and thirty eight dollars per year. That's a

1591
01:13:44,812 --> 01:13:47,372
Speaker 3: rental fee of three thousand, three hundred and ninety two

1592
01:13:47,412 --> 01:13:50,333
Speaker 3: dollars plus a base annual fee of four hundred and

1593
01:13:50,333 --> 01:13:51,052
Speaker 3: forty six dollars.

1594
01:13:51,812 --> 01:13:55,412
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean I'm planning to on a successful business,

1595
01:13:55,412 --> 01:13:58,372
Speaker 2: so I could handle that, but I morally think that

1596
01:13:58,412 --> 01:14:00,973
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to pay it because I'm providing the

1597
01:14:01,053 --> 01:14:05,333
Speaker 2: service to the beautiful city of Auckland of a wonderful

1598
01:14:05,333 --> 01:14:07,732
Speaker 2: community alfresco alfresco experience for.

1599
01:14:07,772 --> 01:14:10,053
Speaker 3: Them a lot of texts agreement. So is that all

1600
01:14:10,093 --> 01:14:12,973
Speaker 3: it is for the whole year? Yeah, based on this calculator,

1601
01:14:13,013 --> 01:14:14,812
Speaker 3: and anyone can go have a look at this calculator

1602
01:14:14,853 --> 01:14:16,612
Speaker 3: on the council website. Okay, what if I went into

1603
01:14:16,612 --> 01:14:19,333
Speaker 3: the CBD, is that is it? Because there's the challenges

1604
01:14:19,372 --> 01:14:21,173
Speaker 3: of oh, we're going to change it now so we

1605
01:14:21,293 --> 01:14:23,132
Speaker 3: can go cutting a happy.

1606
01:14:22,973 --> 01:14:25,253
Speaker 2: Road being let's be honest, a little bit stinky from

1607
01:14:25,253 --> 01:14:25,772
Speaker 2: time to time.

1608
01:14:26,213 --> 01:14:28,692
Speaker 3: Well, no city center, that's the most expensive. Say you

1609
01:14:28,772 --> 01:14:30,452
Speaker 3: want to open your cafe and pons and be.

1610
01:14:30,772 --> 01:14:32,612
Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, yeah, okay, let let's open it up

1611
01:14:32,652 --> 01:14:34,372
Speaker 2: on pontserb. That's where I want to be Ponto b.

1612
01:14:34,452 --> 01:14:37,812
Speaker 3: Okay, instantly, you've saved more than a grand. That's twenty

1613
01:14:37,893 --> 01:14:39,772
Speaker 3: four hundred ninety eight bucks in ponds and beef. It's

1614
01:14:39,812 --> 01:14:41,173
Speaker 3: al Frisco dining, so.

1615
01:14:41,293 --> 01:14:41,972
Speaker 4: It is cheaper.

1616
01:14:42,853 --> 01:14:45,093
Speaker 2: It's going to be cheaper to do to open the

1617
01:14:45,133 --> 01:14:52,892
Speaker 2: South Frisco situation in Ponsonby than it is in Totong. Yeah, yeah, quick, okay,

1618
01:14:52,933 --> 01:14:54,372
Speaker 2: well I can see why this is good.

1619
01:14:55,732 --> 01:14:57,132
Speaker 3: Up and running. I can see why.

1620
01:14:57,093 --> 01:15:01,892
Speaker 4: These owners in the Mountain total are angry.

1621
01:15:02,093 --> 01:15:06,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, A quick couple of texts disgusting for council charging

1622
01:15:06,452 --> 01:15:10,612
Speaker 3: al Fresco dining bear good enough, taken away car parking

1623
01:15:10,652 --> 01:15:14,932
Speaker 3: with unnecessary cycle ways, especially in these hard economic times.

1624
01:15:15,692 --> 01:15:17,092
Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, I agree.

1625
01:15:17,692 --> 01:15:21,532
Speaker 3: I think it was probably what ninety percent say that

1626
01:15:21,772 --> 01:15:26,412
Speaker 3: the councils shouldn't be charging. Yeah at right, News Talks

1627
01:15:26,532 --> 01:15:29,293
Speaker 3: ed B. It is fourteen two.

1628
01:15:29,293 --> 01:15:34,812
Speaker 5: Three The issues that affect you and a bit of

1629
01:15:34,893 --> 01:15:35,732
Speaker 5: fun along the way.

1630
01:15:35,973 --> 01:15:39,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

1631
01:15:39,532 --> 01:15:40,772
Speaker 1: four News Talk zed B.

1632
01:15:41,652 --> 01:15:44,732
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB. We have been talking about Alfresco dining

1633
01:15:44,933 --> 01:15:48,372
Speaker 3: or the fees that totong Are City Council and Auckland

1634
01:15:48,412 --> 01:15:51,612
Speaker 3: City Council, christ A City Council, Wellington City Council charges

1635
01:15:51,732 --> 01:15:55,492
Speaker 3: good businesses like cafes. You're very anti it, but you

1636
01:15:56,053 --> 01:15:57,933
Speaker 3: actually I want to hear your story about France. But

1637
01:15:58,452 --> 01:15:59,372
Speaker 3: we'll get crag in here.

1638
01:15:59,572 --> 01:16:00,932
Speaker 4: Just before the end of the hour, I will share

1639
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:05,213
Speaker 4: a story about being profiled in Paris. Very God well

1640
01:16:05,253 --> 01:16:06,253
Speaker 4: if Alfresco dining.

1641
01:16:06,293 --> 01:16:08,972
Speaker 3: Okay, so that does surprise people need to hear this, Craig,

1642
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:09,452
Speaker 3: how are you?

1643
01:16:10,572 --> 01:16:11,253
Speaker 9: God might hear you?

1644
01:16:11,492 --> 01:16:13,892
Speaker 3: Good? Goods? Oh so you heard met and doing your

1645
01:16:14,293 --> 01:16:16,572
Speaker 3: joining your new shirt guys? Oh, thank you very much,

1646
01:16:16,692 --> 01:16:19,013
Speaker 3: thank you, Craig. So first up, let's talk about the

1647
01:16:19,093 --> 01:16:21,732
Speaker 3: old Fresco dining fees. Do you think the councils need

1648
01:16:21,812 --> 01:16:22,692
Speaker 3: to pull their head in a bit.

1649
01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:24,373
Speaker 13: Absolutely.

1650
01:16:24,812 --> 01:16:25,012
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1651
01:16:25,572 --> 01:16:27,812
Speaker 3: And on the you picked up on what Matt was

1652
01:16:27,812 --> 01:16:29,333
Speaker 3: saying about the parking fees.

1653
01:16:29,173 --> 01:16:34,492
Speaker 18: Parking council, I'm passionate about that is well, I mean, right,

1654
01:16:34,532 --> 01:16:36,772
Speaker 18: payers have paid for all the infrastructure, right, they've not

1655
01:16:36,933 --> 01:16:43,372
Speaker 18: the city right, players and the councilors just they need

1656
01:16:43,452 --> 01:16:46,213
Speaker 18: to start creating income rather than just stoody grabbing it

1657
01:16:46,293 --> 01:16:47,013
Speaker 18: of us all the time.

1658
01:16:47,492 --> 01:16:49,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now they're not even hiding the fact that

1659
01:16:49,812 --> 01:16:53,293
Speaker 3: it's revenue generation. They're not even hiding any fact.

1660
01:16:53,732 --> 01:16:55,973
Speaker 2: I mean because sometimes they used to argue, and I

1661
01:16:56,133 --> 01:16:57,772
Speaker 2: know it's an age old discussion, but they used to

1662
01:16:57,893 --> 01:17:01,293
Speaker 2: argue that they had parking fees that charge you to

1663
01:17:01,333 --> 01:17:03,772
Speaker 2: park somewhere so people didn't park there all day and

1664
01:17:04,133 --> 01:17:06,173
Speaker 2: to keep traffic moving and so people could pull in

1665
01:17:06,253 --> 01:17:07,253
Speaker 2: in front of shops and not.

1666
01:17:07,492 --> 01:17:07,932
Speaker 3: But they don't.

1667
01:17:08,053 --> 01:17:11,372
Speaker 2: They've not the case anymore because they have it the

1668
01:17:11,492 --> 01:17:13,532
Speaker 2: parking fees and times when there's absolutely no one.

1669
01:17:13,532 --> 01:17:15,133
Speaker 3: Around we paid I agree with Craig.

1670
01:17:15,213 --> 01:17:18,293
Speaker 2: We paid for everything as the citizens, so we should

1671
01:17:18,293 --> 01:17:20,932
Speaker 2: be able to park there. And if it's about moving

1672
01:17:20,973 --> 01:17:24,093
Speaker 2: people on, then find people with the mean too long

1673
01:17:24,173 --> 01:17:26,293
Speaker 2: you can park here for three hours, that's fine, But

1674
01:17:26,532 --> 01:17:29,492
Speaker 2: if you're there over three hours, we find you because

1675
01:17:29,612 --> 01:17:32,173
Speaker 2: but then you're actually then then it is actually an

1676
01:17:32,452 --> 01:17:36,572
Speaker 2: administrative issue as opposed to a revenue generation issue.

1677
01:17:36,772 --> 01:17:38,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little story.

1678
01:17:37,812 --> 01:17:41,253
Speaker 18: About I think it would re ignite city centers as well.

1679
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:44,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you're not wrong. A little story about.

1680
01:17:44,093 --> 01:17:47,572
Speaker 3: I mean you're quite familiar with Nelson, yep, great city. Yes,

1681
01:17:47,772 --> 01:17:49,652
Speaker 3: so would have been would have been about fifteen years

1682
01:17:49,692 --> 01:17:52,612
Speaker 3: ago that Richmond is another you could call it a

1683
01:17:52,652 --> 01:17:55,412
Speaker 3: semi town that is about fifteen minutes outside of Nelson's.

1684
01:17:55,612 --> 01:17:57,452
Speaker 2: It's confusing when you're over Nelson. It's a lot of

1685
01:17:57,532 --> 01:17:58,812
Speaker 2: different towns in a straight line.

1686
01:17:58,933 --> 01:17:59,093
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1687
01:17:59,173 --> 01:18:02,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there about fifteen years ago, Richmond, as it

1688
01:18:02,812 --> 01:18:05,652
Speaker 3: was starting to build up its ownly Town center, offered

1689
01:18:05,692 --> 01:18:09,253
Speaker 3: free parking. Come out to Richmond, get free parking on Richmond. Yeah,

1690
01:18:09,372 --> 01:18:12,972
Speaker 3: got on Richmond. Nelson City never offered that. Now Nelson

1691
01:18:13,093 --> 01:18:15,892
Speaker 3: City is dying and Richmond, Richmond's lace.

1692
01:18:15,973 --> 01:18:19,852
Speaker 4: They go, well, I mean just basically, mall's offer free parking, right,

1693
01:18:20,053 --> 01:18:24,213
Speaker 4: and people go to malls. CBDs don't offer free parking,

1694
01:18:24,293 --> 01:18:26,053
Speaker 4: and that's another reason why people don't go in down there.

1695
01:18:26,053 --> 01:18:28,213
Speaker 2: In fact, they had to even offer parking. You end

1696
01:18:28,293 --> 01:18:31,333
Speaker 2: up in a Wilson's car park playing fifteen dollars an hour, a.

1697
01:18:31,333 --> 01:18:33,252
Speaker 3: Big one in christ which as well, one of the councilors,

1698
01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:35,973
Speaker 3: Jamie Goff, tried to get it running that it was

1699
01:18:36,013 --> 01:18:38,333
Speaker 3: free parking for an hour. It didn't get across the line.

1700
01:18:38,412 --> 01:18:39,652
Speaker 3: To me, that was a slam dunk.

1701
01:18:39,692 --> 01:18:42,293
Speaker 2: That would have brought people back into CBD as long

1702
01:18:42,372 --> 01:18:44,532
Speaker 2: as it takes to shop, yeah, or go to a

1703
01:18:44,612 --> 01:18:46,692
Speaker 2: movie or whatever business people want to do in town,

1704
01:18:46,812 --> 01:18:49,772
Speaker 2: because that's I believe one of the primary functions of

1705
01:18:49,812 --> 01:18:52,652
Speaker 2: a council is to get people to businesses and give

1706
01:18:52,692 --> 01:18:54,492
Speaker 2: the opportunity for businesses to make some money.

1707
01:18:55,173 --> 01:18:56,572
Speaker 3: Mary, what's your thoughts?

1708
01:18:56,652 --> 01:19:00,852
Speaker 28: Yeah, yes, nice to chat.

1709
01:19:01,133 --> 01:19:01,652
Speaker 6: Nice about it.

1710
01:19:02,452 --> 01:19:06,293
Speaker 28: It's a very difficult situation because, yes, you're right, it's

1711
01:19:06,372 --> 01:19:09,893
Speaker 28: lovely to have people in town and whatever incentives, but

1712
01:19:09,973 --> 01:19:14,452
Speaker 28: the ratepayers actually pay for that land and it's akin

1713
01:19:14,612 --> 01:19:19,372
Speaker 28: to a premises getting rent free use of that space,

1714
01:19:19,492 --> 01:19:22,612
Speaker 28: which is a difficult one for councils to navigate.

1715
01:19:22,692 --> 01:19:25,053
Speaker 4: I think you are we back on the we're back

1716
01:19:25,053 --> 01:19:26,372
Speaker 4: on the Frisco dining here.

1717
01:19:26,532 --> 01:19:29,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I usually agree with Mary is why I

1718
01:19:29,253 --> 01:19:32,772
Speaker 3: can understand for cafes and restaurants, hospitals hurting, no doubt

1719
01:19:32,812 --> 01:19:35,333
Speaker 3: about it, and I agree give them as much help

1720
01:19:35,412 --> 01:19:37,973
Speaker 3: as we can to get through these tough times. But

1721
01:19:38,053 --> 01:19:39,973
Speaker 3: where do we draw the line, Because Mary's right on

1722
01:19:40,093 --> 01:19:44,173
Speaker 3: a logical thinking about this situation. It is it's like

1723
01:19:44,253 --> 01:19:46,293
Speaker 3: giving them extra floor space, and they don't have to

1724
01:19:46,293 --> 01:19:48,532
Speaker 3: pay anything for that. So do we allow give them

1725
01:19:48,572 --> 01:19:51,172
Speaker 3: the extra floor space? Because what do we want from cities?

1726
01:19:51,213 --> 01:19:53,692
Speaker 2: We want people out on the streets having a good time.

1727
01:19:53,772 --> 01:19:56,812
Speaker 2: We want to have vibrant communities where people get together,

1728
01:19:57,213 --> 01:19:59,893
Speaker 2: and I think that's what councils are supposed to facilitate.

1729
01:20:00,253 --> 01:20:01,452
Speaker 3: And businesses open up.

1730
01:20:01,532 --> 01:20:05,892
Speaker 2: They have people on the street dining, there's laughter, there's

1731
01:20:06,213 --> 01:20:08,892
Speaker 2: there's good, good share in the community. I think that's

1732
01:20:08,933 --> 01:20:12,452
Speaker 2: a very very important situation. I think the vibe of

1733
01:20:12,532 --> 01:20:15,412
Speaker 2: a city is so important, and a Frisco dining is

1734
01:20:15,572 --> 01:20:16,732
Speaker 2: so good for the vibe.

1735
01:20:16,853 --> 01:20:17,892
Speaker 3: Tyler, but what.

1736
01:20:17,973 --> 01:20:18,333
Speaker 9: About it.

1737
01:20:20,333 --> 01:20:23,412
Speaker 28: They do clatter the patients so and the viaducts became

1738
01:20:23,492 --> 01:20:27,133
Speaker 28: a real problem. When these premises started encroaching further and

1739
01:20:27,213 --> 01:20:27,692
Speaker 28: became a.

1740
01:20:27,732 --> 01:20:31,293
Speaker 3: Really good time Mary became a fantastically.

1741
01:20:30,732 --> 01:20:33,973
Speaker 28: Good time sadly I'm the party police or I was

1742
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:37,692
Speaker 28: the part a big banned from more pubs than I can.

1743
01:20:37,652 --> 01:20:38,213
Speaker 26: Shake the steps.

1744
01:20:38,652 --> 01:20:42,012
Speaker 3: Oh you sound like a good time, Mary, Yeah, good time,

1745
01:20:43,133 --> 01:20:44,932
Speaker 3: very good. No, but just to pick up on my thought,

1746
01:20:44,973 --> 01:20:47,772
Speaker 3: what them as If it's the local Bunnings, for example,

1747
01:20:47,812 --> 01:20:50,732
Speaker 3: and they need more floor space to advertise the latest

1748
01:20:50,772 --> 01:20:52,852
Speaker 3: bathway that they've got, is that okay for them to

1749
01:20:52,933 --> 01:20:55,092
Speaker 3: just chuck a few you know? Well, I'm not showers

1750
01:20:55,133 --> 01:20:56,372
Speaker 3: on the foot park. I don't think a shower on

1751
01:20:56,412 --> 01:21:01,013
Speaker 3: the footpath increases the vibe of the city. Isn't the

1752
01:21:01,173 --> 01:21:03,812
Speaker 3: vibrancy of the community. But I wouldn't nickel nickel and

1753
01:21:03,893 --> 01:21:06,293
Speaker 3: dimond them on having a sausages lad on the street? KFC?

1754
01:21:06,572 --> 01:21:08,293
Speaker 3: Are they allowed tables? Are they allowed a butt our free?

1755
01:21:09,253 --> 01:21:12,652
Speaker 2: I'm not a food snob, I reckon Yeah, absolutely, people

1756
01:21:12,893 --> 01:21:15,053
Speaker 2: people are eating chicken on the street. Is a good

1757
01:21:15,093 --> 01:21:17,933
Speaker 2: time for everyone walking past and seeing it. Wherever there

1758
01:21:17,973 --> 01:21:20,093
Speaker 2: are people having a good time, other people have a

1759
01:21:20,772 --> 01:21:23,933
Speaker 2: have a good time, and it raises the raises just

1760
01:21:24,173 --> 01:21:24,492
Speaker 2: the the.

1761
01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:30,972
Speaker 3: The goodwill of a place. Okay, empty streets, empty streets

1762
01:21:31,053 --> 01:21:33,692
Speaker 3: lead to bad things. Ross what do you reckon?

1763
01:21:33,893 --> 01:21:37,372
Speaker 9: How are you mate, Yeah, good mate, Yeah, there's you

1764
01:21:37,492 --> 01:21:38,092
Speaker 9: know Twiler.

1765
01:21:39,612 --> 01:21:41,412
Speaker 29: A few months ago I moved from Gore up to

1766
01:21:41,652 --> 01:21:45,732
Speaker 29: esh Burton. Yep, and I've noticed Burton don't have any

1767
01:21:45,812 --> 01:21:49,972
Speaker 29: parking meters at all, good parking parking for an hour

1768
01:21:50,253 --> 01:21:51,772
Speaker 29: and there's only as far as I know, there's only

1769
01:21:51,812 --> 01:21:56,652
Speaker 29: one paid parking car park here and it's three dollars

1770
01:21:56,732 --> 01:21:57,133
Speaker 29: for the day.

1771
01:21:57,772 --> 01:22:01,372
Speaker 3: It's pretty reasonable, is it. Are you angry about that?

1772
01:22:02,293 --> 01:22:02,852
Speaker 5: No, not at all.

1773
01:22:03,013 --> 01:22:05,452
Speaker 29: I just told you know that they did a way

1774
01:22:05,572 --> 01:22:07,213
Speaker 29: for parking meters here some time ago.

1775
01:22:07,293 --> 01:22:11,253
Speaker 3: They said, yep, see always been wise an ish burden.

1776
01:22:11,772 --> 01:22:14,692
Speaker 3: They know what they're doing down there. But but you know,

1777
01:22:14,853 --> 01:22:17,732
Speaker 3: I mean, is there a difference there between getting people

1778
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:19,852
Speaker 3: into the CBD of ashburna which I don't think there

1779
01:22:19,933 --> 01:22:22,333
Speaker 3: is a problem with at the moment, versus somewhere like

1780
01:22:22,732 --> 01:22:26,933
Speaker 3: Auckland or christ Church or Wellington where they have a

1781
01:22:26,973 --> 01:22:28,812
Speaker 3: lot more people. Well, they used to have a lot

1782
01:22:28,893 --> 01:22:30,213
Speaker 3: more people coming into the CBD.

1783
01:22:31,772 --> 01:22:32,253
Speaker 27: Yeah, it was.

1784
01:22:34,133 --> 01:22:34,293
Speaker 7: Well.

1785
01:22:34,333 --> 01:22:36,812
Speaker 29: Thank around crisis.

1786
01:22:37,772 --> 01:22:39,452
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much for your call. Ross.

1787
01:22:39,933 --> 01:22:43,012
Speaker 2: It sounds like great parking there in Ashburton. It doesn't

1788
01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:46,652
Speaker 2: sound like I've got time for my hugely exciting story

1789
01:22:46,652 --> 01:22:50,492
Speaker 2: about Elfresco dying in Paris. I demanded that time, Tyler,

1790
01:22:50,532 --> 01:22:51,093
Speaker 2: and you've taken there.

1791
01:22:51,133 --> 01:22:52,892
Speaker 3: You got forty five seconds. Have we got enough time

1792
01:22:52,933 --> 01:22:54,772
Speaker 3: for it? We don't have enough time and needs detail

1793
01:22:54,812 --> 01:22:58,412
Speaker 3: and need me on sea. There was a massive setup

1794
01:22:58,492 --> 01:23:02,053
Speaker 3: for the story and Pari characters I need to introduce.

1795
01:23:03,053 --> 01:23:05,253
Speaker 3: I can't tell the story in forty five seconds, right,

1796
01:23:05,333 --> 01:23:07,452
Speaker 3: We might have time for it after three. We'll see

1797
01:23:07,452 --> 01:23:08,772
Speaker 3: how we go. I hope for the good of the

1798
01:23:08,812 --> 01:23:11,852
Speaker 3: listeners that we have time afterwards. You're back in the story.

1799
01:23:11,973 --> 01:23:12,612
Speaker 3: We do have time for.

1800
01:23:12,652 --> 01:23:15,133
Speaker 2: Jeremy Wells, who's coming into the studio, own old friend

1801
01:23:15,173 --> 01:23:16,732
Speaker 2: from the Hodik and Breakfast to talk about a new

1802
01:23:16,772 --> 01:23:18,412
Speaker 2: book from the Alternative Commentary Collective.

1803
01:23:18,612 --> 01:23:22,053
Speaker 3: Yes, after three, the Almanac, looking forward to that new

1804
01:23:22,133 --> 01:23:24,532
Speaker 3: sport and weather on its way. We will see you

1805
01:23:24,853 --> 01:23:26,812
Speaker 3: very shortly. You're listening to Maddon Tiler.

1806
01:23:37,372 --> 01:23:39,093
Speaker 5: Talking with you all afternoon.

1807
01:23:39,333 --> 01:23:43,133
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

1808
01:23:43,213 --> 01:23:45,013
Speaker 1: four News Talk ZEDB.

1809
01:23:45,572 --> 01:23:49,172
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB Well a very special guest in this afternoon.

1810
01:23:49,213 --> 01:23:51,933
Speaker 3: He's here to talk about a new book the Alternative

1811
01:23:51,973 --> 01:23:56,092
Speaker 3: Commentary Collective. Almanac, Jeremy Wells, get a good a Tyler,

1812
01:23:56,133 --> 01:23:58,652
Speaker 3: get a Matt good a Jerry. Of course, we did

1813
01:23:58,692 --> 01:24:00,333
Speaker 3: breakfast radio together for eleven years.

1814
01:24:00,492 --> 01:24:00,772
Speaker 30: We did.

1815
01:24:00,893 --> 01:24:03,293
Speaker 2: We're back together to celebrate something else we do together,

1816
01:24:03,293 --> 01:24:06,173
Speaker 2: the Alternative Commentary Collective. And I thought you were the

1817
01:24:06,253 --> 01:24:07,933
Speaker 2: perfect person to come and talk about because you were

1818
01:24:07,973 --> 01:24:09,812
Speaker 2: there from the I mean, I'm one of the authors

1819
01:24:09,853 --> 01:24:11,732
Speaker 2: of the book, but you were there from the start.

1820
01:24:11,812 --> 01:24:15,172
Speaker 2: You were the ACC beforehand. What is the Alternative Commentary Collective?

1821
01:24:15,293 --> 01:24:18,732
Speaker 31: Well, the Alternative Commentary Collective is a group of people

1822
01:24:19,532 --> 01:24:23,213
Speaker 31: who were brought together to commentate sports.

1823
01:24:24,093 --> 01:24:25,932
Speaker 3: And I guess when it first started.

1824
01:24:26,013 --> 01:24:28,652
Speaker 31: The Alternative Commentary Collective also known as the ACC not

1825
01:24:28,772 --> 01:24:32,053
Speaker 31: to be confused with the Accident Compensation Corporation, although it

1826
01:24:32,133 --> 01:24:37,013
Speaker 31: often is. It often is, particularly around emails. But they

1827
01:24:37,053 --> 01:24:40,612
Speaker 31: were a group of people brought together to provide an

1828
01:24:40,692 --> 01:24:44,532
Speaker 31: alternative commentary. So what we were listening to at the

1829
01:24:44,572 --> 01:24:50,093
Speaker 31: time was generally cricket commentary radio commentary, and we were

1830
01:24:50,133 --> 01:24:51,572
Speaker 31: listening to a lot of it, and we thought, you

1831
01:24:51,652 --> 01:24:53,932
Speaker 31: know what, this is perfect. This is perfect to get

1832
01:24:53,973 --> 01:24:59,013
Speaker 31: together to talk a little bit of rubbish between the commentary.

1833
01:24:59,492 --> 01:25:02,133
Speaker 31: It's the perfect vehicle, you've got essentially six hours a

1834
01:25:02,253 --> 01:25:06,133
Speaker 31: day to talk, and so yeah, we assembled a rag

1835
01:25:06,173 --> 01:25:07,293
Speaker 31: tea bunch of people to do it.

1836
01:25:07,492 --> 01:25:09,093
Speaker 2: And it's got to the point point where we've been

1837
01:25:09,133 --> 01:25:12,893
Speaker 2: going so long that we've got a hardcovered box about it.

1838
01:25:13,372 --> 01:25:18,532
Speaker 2: Round written by myself and Mike Lane and Dylan Clader,

1839
01:25:18,933 --> 01:25:19,492
Speaker 2: just on that it.

1840
01:25:19,532 --> 01:25:22,572
Speaker 3: Has become a behemoth. The ACC commentary, Did you think

1841
01:25:22,612 --> 01:25:24,652
Speaker 3: in those early days it was going to get as

1842
01:25:24,732 --> 01:25:28,253
Speaker 3: big as it's become? Certainly not, certainly not.

1843
01:25:29,372 --> 01:25:32,612
Speaker 31: But interestingly Matt was talking about that first ever broadcast

1844
01:25:32,612 --> 01:25:34,572
Speaker 31: where we started with zero listeners. We're in a caravan

1845
01:25:34,732 --> 01:25:38,612
Speaker 31: in Napier sitting there commentating New Zealand playing India. And

1846
01:25:39,532 --> 01:25:42,293
Speaker 31: after the first broadcast, because it's digital, you can actually

1847
01:25:42,333 --> 01:25:46,333
Speaker 31: get the actual listenership numbers back right, and the first

1848
01:25:46,452 --> 01:25:48,492
Speaker 31: after the first one, I believe they're about two and

1849
01:25:48,572 --> 01:25:50,093
Speaker 31: a half thousand listeners or something.

1850
01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:50,532
Speaker 4: That's right.

1851
01:25:50,933 --> 01:25:51,492
Speaker 3: Who tuned in?

1852
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:55,173
Speaker 4: I was like, oh wow, yeah, okay, that's interesting because really,

1853
01:25:55,253 --> 01:25:56,933
Speaker 4: to be honest, we were using the caravan as a

1854
01:25:56,973 --> 01:26:00,413
Speaker 4: trojan horse to get beers into cricket.

1855
01:26:00,173 --> 01:26:02,333
Speaker 3: Grounds so we could sit and drink them with our mates.

1856
01:26:02,492 --> 01:26:05,293
Speaker 31: Yeah, we were already watching the game together, and so

1857
01:26:05,372 --> 01:26:06,812
Speaker 31: we thought we might as well watch the game and

1858
01:26:06,933 --> 01:26:09,253
Speaker 31: broadcast at the same time and go along to all

1859
01:26:09,253 --> 01:26:11,452
Speaker 31: the games. This way, the company will pay for us

1860
01:26:11,452 --> 01:26:13,893
Speaker 31: to turn up to the games and we can potentially

1861
01:26:14,053 --> 01:26:15,732
Speaker 31: bring our own beers in because the beers at the

1862
01:26:15,772 --> 01:26:18,012
Speaker 31: time that they were offering in the stadium weren't very tasty.

1863
01:26:18,652 --> 01:26:21,852
Speaker 31: So we succeeded there. But then we thought, are people

1864
01:26:21,933 --> 01:26:23,972
Speaker 31: going to listen? I mean, did we care if people listen?

1865
01:26:24,133 --> 01:26:26,652
Speaker 3: Probably not. Initially I didn't. It was never on my

1866
01:26:26,772 --> 01:26:28,333
Speaker 3: radar whether that was going to happen or note.

1867
01:26:29,333 --> 01:26:30,972
Speaker 31: So we had two and a half thousand people listened

1868
01:26:30,973 --> 01:26:32,652
Speaker 31: to the first broadcast and we were like, oh wow, okay,

1869
01:26:32,692 --> 01:26:35,053
Speaker 31: there's people are actually interested in this. And then the

1870
01:26:35,133 --> 01:26:37,932
Speaker 31: next broadcast, because it's a series, there were like four

1871
01:26:37,973 --> 01:26:39,732
Speaker 31: and a half thousand, and then the next one there

1872
01:26:39,732 --> 01:26:40,812
Speaker 31: were like six, then.

1873
01:26:40,732 --> 01:26:43,452
Speaker 3: There were eight, there were ten, there was like twenty forty.

1874
01:26:43,732 --> 01:26:45,372
Speaker 4: It started to grow with every game.

1875
01:26:45,532 --> 01:26:48,253
Speaker 3: You must have ruffled a few feathers in the cricket

1876
01:26:48,372 --> 01:26:51,372
Speaker 3: commentary said a tradition of New Zealand. I mean, there's

1877
01:26:51,372 --> 01:26:52,933
Speaker 3: one name that comes to mind. I think was a

1878
01:26:52,973 --> 01:26:55,973
Speaker 3: bit grumpy with you guys, said Brian Waddle, Did you

1879
01:26:56,013 --> 01:26:59,053
Speaker 3: ever make up with Watts? No, we attempted to a lot.

1880
01:27:00,532 --> 01:27:03,253
Speaker 2: We offered more olive branches to the great Brian Waddle

1881
01:27:03,893 --> 01:27:09,013
Speaker 2: than the entire olive growing district of New Zealand. He

1882
01:27:09,133 --> 01:27:11,213
Speaker 2: wasn't having a bar of it. He took the alternative

1883
01:27:11,253 --> 01:27:13,492
Speaker 2: line as an insult. He was like, why isn't there

1884
01:27:13,652 --> 01:27:15,892
Speaker 2: just one commentary? But that was the point we always made.

1885
01:27:16,053 --> 01:27:18,532
Speaker 2: You can listen to that commentary, but here's another option.

1886
01:27:18,853 --> 01:27:21,052
Speaker 2: We can all exist. And the success of the ACC

1887
01:27:21,532 --> 01:27:24,772
Speaker 2: I believe if I'm gonna pump our own tires brought

1888
01:27:24,893 --> 01:27:26,732
Speaker 2: in a lot of people to cricket that had never

1889
01:27:26,772 --> 01:27:29,013
Speaker 2: listened to cricket before. Yeah, and that's the thing we

1890
01:27:29,133 --> 01:27:31,572
Speaker 2: hear most is that people just wanted a different way

1891
01:27:31,572 --> 01:27:32,253
Speaker 2: to listen to cricket.

1892
01:27:32,372 --> 01:27:34,693
Speaker 3: And it's been hugely successful.

1893
01:27:34,853 --> 01:27:37,013
Speaker 2: And thank you Jeremy for inviting me to be part

1894
01:27:37,013 --> 01:27:38,452
Speaker 2: of the team way back and then, because it's been

1895
01:27:38,772 --> 01:27:41,852
Speaker 2: one of the most fun things you could possibly be

1896
01:27:41,973 --> 01:27:44,213
Speaker 2: involved in. And if I hadn't been invited, I would

1897
01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:47,012
Speaker 2: have sat back and with such raging fomo.

1898
01:27:47,213 --> 01:27:49,692
Speaker 31: Well, that was the reason why we included you. Because

1899
01:27:49,732 --> 01:27:53,572
Speaker 31: we realized if you did it, we'd be You'd be

1900
01:27:53,692 --> 01:27:56,412
Speaker 31: on your keyboard sending us messages. Though I was certainly

1901
01:27:56,492 --> 01:27:59,572
Speaker 31: the least knowledgeable of cricket in the crew. Well, part

1902
01:27:59,612 --> 01:28:01,812
Speaker 31: of it was definitely when we started we wanted to

1903
01:28:01,893 --> 01:28:04,013
Speaker 31: do something that was weird, and it was it was

1904
01:28:04,053 --> 01:28:05,852
Speaker 31: the perfect vehicle for doing it, as you know, you

1905
01:28:05,933 --> 01:28:07,972
Speaker 31: got so much time to do it, but also as

1906
01:28:08,053 --> 01:28:10,253
Speaker 31: time we worked out that, oh, there's actually a great

1907
01:28:10,333 --> 01:28:13,852
Speaker 31: chemistry between us and the stories that we used to tell.

1908
01:28:14,732 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 30: You learned.

1909
01:28:15,253 --> 01:28:18,012
Speaker 31: You really learned a lot about your fellow commentators, sometimes

1910
01:28:18,093 --> 01:28:21,172
Speaker 31: too much, yeah, yeah, And in terms of the outside

1911
01:28:21,213 --> 01:28:23,812
Speaker 31: and how other people felt about us. I think in

1912
01:28:23,973 --> 01:28:26,612
Speaker 31: terms of Brian model, I think the thing that wound

1913
01:28:26,652 --> 01:28:28,093
Speaker 31: him up the most was the fact that we all

1914
01:28:28,253 --> 01:28:29,213
Speaker 31: had had suits.

1915
01:28:29,612 --> 01:28:32,053
Speaker 3: We looked like a commentary team. He didn't know that

1916
01:28:32,093 --> 01:28:34,692
Speaker 3: we'd bought those seats and matching suits ourselves. We had

1917
01:28:34,732 --> 01:28:40,572
Speaker 3: to go to the Helenstein's dollars. But the almanac very

1918
01:28:40,612 --> 01:28:41,093
Speaker 3: proud of it.

1919
01:28:41,492 --> 01:28:43,892
Speaker 4: A lot of work's gone into it. It's it's it's

1920
01:28:44,053 --> 01:28:47,093
Speaker 4: an oral history, so everyone in the ACC's interview, but

1921
01:28:47,133 --> 01:28:48,492
Speaker 4: it's also a history of New Zealand.

1922
01:28:48,492 --> 01:28:50,253
Speaker 3: Sport over those ten years.

1923
01:28:50,412 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 2: There's there's some fantastic images in there, some shocking ones,

1924
01:28:54,412 --> 01:28:56,372
Speaker 2: one of me and Glane and a frozen banana that

1925
01:28:56,412 --> 01:28:58,932
Speaker 2: I asked to be removed, but it's it's remained good.

1926
01:28:59,173 --> 01:29:00,253
Speaker 3: So it's an oral history.

1927
01:29:00,372 --> 01:29:04,452
Speaker 2: There's also you know, the scoreboards from from from games.

1928
01:29:04,772 --> 01:29:07,732
Speaker 2: It's it's a great read if you ask me, and

1929
01:29:08,652 --> 01:29:10,013
Speaker 2: you would if I would say that, because I'm one

1930
01:29:10,013 --> 01:29:10,452
Speaker 2: of the authors.

1931
01:29:10,492 --> 01:29:13,532
Speaker 3: But there's one moment I remember very vividly, and it

1932
01:29:13,612 --> 01:29:15,372
Speaker 3: was a great moment with the acc but it was

1933
01:29:15,452 --> 01:29:18,412
Speaker 3: the twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup and you know what

1934
01:29:18,452 --> 01:29:22,333
Speaker 3: I'm talking about here, stayin coming up against Grant Elliott.

1935
01:29:22,372 --> 01:29:26,973
Speaker 3: Here we go, stayin to Elliot, Hey, pos.

1936
01:29:44,893 --> 01:29:46,372
Speaker 4: Oh, you want to wry about it?

1937
01:29:46,692 --> 01:29:50,612
Speaker 3: The passion and emotion and just pure joy from you

1938
01:29:50,772 --> 01:29:52,932
Speaker 3: guys through that. We were all feeling that as a nation,

1939
01:29:53,013 --> 01:29:55,492
Speaker 3: weren't we when he smacked that sex right out of

1940
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Speaker 3: the stadium.

1941
01:29:56,372 --> 01:29:59,212
Speaker 31: We were so lucky to be commentating at a particular

1942
01:29:59,253 --> 01:30:01,573
Speaker 31: time when New Zealand cricket was on the ascendancy.

1943
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Speaker 5: It was on the rise and.

1944
01:30:05,133 --> 01:30:06,692
Speaker 4: The fandom was on the rise as well.

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Speaker 31: So we commentate and the beginning of the a SEC

1946
01:30:10,173 --> 01:30:12,572
Speaker 31: just happened to conside with possibly the greatest era of

1947
01:30:12,652 --> 01:30:14,012
Speaker 31: New Zealand cricket of all time.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and so.

1949
01:30:15,133 --> 01:30:17,452
Speaker 2: We're blessed in that regard. Yeah, that was the fuel

1950
01:30:17,492 --> 01:30:20,572
Speaker 2: for our success in many ways. The Alternative Commentary Collective

1951
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Speaker 2: Almanac is out now.

1952
01:30:22,213 --> 01:30:24,612
Speaker 3: It's been described as the most important book released in

1953
01:30:24,692 --> 01:30:28,012
Speaker 3: this country since Michael King's book of New Zealand history.

1954
01:30:28,133 --> 01:30:30,052
Speaker 3: And I can believe that it's a beautiful looking book

1955
01:30:30,093 --> 01:30:31,892
Speaker 3: in bookstores now, Jeremy, good.

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01:30:31,732 --> 01:30:32,013
Speaker 7: To see it.

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01:30:32,053 --> 01:30:32,692
Speaker 4: Oh, thanks very much.

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Speaker 31: Just before I go, just a comment from a mum

1959
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Speaker 31: who's an avid listener to the show. She's an avid

1960
01:30:38,213 --> 01:30:41,253
Speaker 31: listener before you guys started. She says, good works for

1961
01:30:41,333 --> 01:30:43,333
Speaker 31: a start. She's very happy with it, yep, but she

1962
01:30:43,492 --> 01:30:45,612
Speaker 31: just wants to make sure that you get some female

1963
01:30:45,652 --> 01:30:47,293
Speaker 31: callers on the line as well. Just a little bit

1964
01:30:47,333 --> 01:30:48,972
Speaker 31: of advice there from Scheryl Wilson.

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Speaker 3: My praise and good advice. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Big Hello to Cheryl. Bless her and eight hundred eighty

1967
01:30:54,053 --> 01:30:55,412
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number for.

1968
01:30:55,492 --> 01:30:58,012
Speaker 3: Cheryl to call. You can text her as well. Cheryl

1969
01:30:58,053 --> 01:31:01,173
Speaker 3: nine two nights. But newstik Z b back in the mow,

1970
01:31:01,933 --> 01:31:04,093
Speaker 3: A very very good afternoon to you. You're listening to

1971
01:31:04,372 --> 01:31:08,293
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler, right. So a fascinating post on Reader

1972
01:31:08,652 --> 01:31:11,013
Speaker 3: and it's a subreddit as they call it, or a

1973
01:31:11,133 --> 01:31:14,053
Speaker 3: page on Reddit called am I the a Hole? So?

1974
01:31:14,133 --> 01:31:17,412
Speaker 3: It was a man who was asked for advice after

1975
01:31:17,532 --> 01:31:20,692
Speaker 3: his girlfriend forbade him from taking a trip to Greece

1976
01:31:21,133 --> 01:31:24,852
Speaker 3: with his guy friends, the lads Trip. He said, I quote,

1977
01:31:25,333 --> 01:31:28,772
Speaker 3: she just said I was disrespecting the relationship by going

1978
01:31:28,853 --> 01:31:30,652
Speaker 3: on the lad's trip, and that I should say no

1979
01:31:30,812 --> 01:31:33,612
Speaker 3: to my friends, said the young man, who, as I said,

1980
01:31:33,893 --> 01:31:36,213
Speaker 3: shared his story on Reddit. He explained that a group

1981
01:31:36,253 --> 01:31:38,692
Speaker 3: of friends from university planned to take a trip abroad

1982
01:31:38,933 --> 01:31:42,173
Speaker 3: to celebrate graduating in twenty twenty, but the pandemic put

1983
01:31:42,213 --> 01:31:44,652
Speaker 3: a trip on the hold. Once the world got back

1984
01:31:45,093 --> 01:31:47,532
Speaker 3: to normality, he wrote, we all had jobs and it

1985
01:31:47,612 --> 01:31:50,372
Speaker 3: was a nightmare to align our free time. Then, earlier

1986
01:31:50,412 --> 01:31:53,173
Speaker 3: this year, a friend suggested taking the long awaited trip

1987
01:31:53,492 --> 01:31:56,293
Speaker 3: during the upcoming europe summer. His uncle had a villa

1988
01:31:56,612 --> 01:31:58,692
Speaker 3: nice and Greece that they could use for seven to

1989
01:31:58,772 --> 01:32:03,293
Speaker 3: ten days. His girlfriend, however, wasn't quite as thrilled. He

1990
01:32:03,372 --> 01:32:06,213
Speaker 3: proposed going somewhere together at the start or end of

1991
01:32:06,253 --> 01:32:09,173
Speaker 3: summer for five nights, but she refused. Is she wanted

1992
01:32:09,173 --> 01:32:11,772
Speaker 3: to go away for longer in the middle of summer.

1993
01:32:12,013 --> 01:32:14,333
Speaker 3: So this is a curly one for relationships.

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01:32:14,692 --> 01:32:17,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we want to know should you support your

1995
01:32:17,452 --> 01:32:20,492
Speaker 2: partners going away and having a good time with their

1996
01:32:20,492 --> 01:32:22,692
Speaker 2: friends or shut them down.

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Speaker 3: Or worse, arguably worse, insist on going along.

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01:32:27,412 --> 01:32:31,013
Speaker 2: I guess it's a way to question around relationships and

1999
01:32:31,133 --> 01:32:35,212
Speaker 2: as a healthy relationship one where you allow your partner

2000
01:32:35,452 --> 01:32:39,293
Speaker 2: to have relationships outside your relationship. I'm not talking about

2001
01:32:39,412 --> 01:32:41,173
Speaker 2: sexual relationships, because that's.

2002
01:32:41,053 --> 01:32:43,012
Speaker 3: A different type of that's a different topic.

2003
01:32:43,452 --> 01:32:47,812
Speaker 2: I'm talking about mates and friends and experiences that don't

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01:32:48,213 --> 01:32:48,732
Speaker 2: involve you.

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01:32:49,093 --> 01:32:53,372
Speaker 3: To me, absolutely critical, super healthy for a relationship to

2006
01:32:53,492 --> 01:32:56,893
Speaker 3: have not so much separate groups, but the ability to

2007
01:32:56,973 --> 01:32:59,852
Speaker 3: go away on what might be a boys' trip, but

2008
01:33:00,013 --> 01:33:02,213
Speaker 3: also the reverse to go away on the girls trip

2009
01:33:02,372 --> 01:33:04,972
Speaker 3: and not feel any guilt about that. That is something

2010
01:33:05,053 --> 01:33:06,652
Speaker 3: I think is hugely important to.

2011
01:33:06,812 --> 01:33:09,852
Speaker 2: So if your lovely partner to you and said I'm

2012
01:33:10,253 --> 01:33:15,053
Speaker 2: going away for two weeks with my four best buddies yep,

2013
01:33:15,293 --> 01:33:19,372
Speaker 2: to the Goldie yep, and you said, can I come

2014
01:33:19,772 --> 01:33:21,572
Speaker 2: and she said, I'd rather you did it.

2015
01:33:21,973 --> 01:33:22,412
Speaker 4: How would you.

2016
01:33:22,412 --> 01:33:25,293
Speaker 3: Feel I'd be absolutely okay with that. I would help

2017
01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:27,972
Speaker 3: me pack your bags. Yes, I would say.

2018
01:33:28,652 --> 01:33:30,492
Speaker 4: You gotta be care if you're not too keen.

2019
01:33:31,053 --> 01:33:33,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. Two weeks is a big holiday, to

2020
01:33:33,333 --> 01:33:34,692
Speaker 3: be honest. I want to know how much.

2021
01:33:35,772 --> 01:33:39,293
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just say for a weekend. Let's say four

2022
01:33:39,372 --> 01:33:42,293
Speaker 2: days right behind it, right behind it. Yeah, And i'd

2023
01:33:42,293 --> 01:33:45,492
Speaker 2: be interesting to tear if there's anyone that if someone

2024
01:33:45,572 --> 01:33:47,532
Speaker 2: honestly is against that and thinks that's kind of a

2025
01:33:47,612 --> 01:33:49,972
Speaker 2: betrayal of the relationship that you go away for say,

2026
01:33:50,053 --> 01:33:53,612
Speaker 2: for example, you flip it around and I went to

2027
01:33:53,652 --> 01:33:55,572
Speaker 2: my partner and said, I'm going away for I mean,

2028
01:33:55,612 --> 01:33:57,452
Speaker 2: I do it all the time, but I'm going away

2029
01:33:57,532 --> 01:34:00,452
Speaker 2: for four days with some friends on a golf trip

2030
01:34:00,572 --> 01:34:03,013
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, And they said, no, I think that's

2031
01:34:03,053 --> 01:34:05,492
Speaker 2: a red flag in a relationship if they if they

2032
01:34:05,612 --> 01:34:06,972
Speaker 2: want to hold onto you that tightly.

2033
01:34:07,333 --> 01:34:10,492
Speaker 3: How often would you go away with Tracy versus just

2034
01:34:10,572 --> 01:34:12,532
Speaker 3: going away with the boys. Would it be mostly that

2035
01:34:12,652 --> 01:34:14,812
Speaker 3: you and Tracy and maybe your group of friends go

2036
01:34:14,893 --> 01:34:17,572
Speaker 3: away together, more so that you do a boys strip.

2037
01:34:17,812 --> 01:34:20,692
Speaker 4: Hmmm, I don't know.

2038
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Speaker 3: I have to get out the numbers yet I go.

2039
01:34:24,293 --> 01:34:26,093
Speaker 4: There's I love a strange life.

2040
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Speaker 2: And we've just talked to Jimmy Wells about the Alternative

2041
01:34:27,973 --> 01:34:30,572
Speaker 2: Commentary Collective and stuff where a lot of it's hard

2042
01:34:30,652 --> 01:34:30,973
Speaker 2: to tell the.

2043
01:34:30,973 --> 01:34:32,133
Speaker 4: Difference between work and fun.

2044
01:34:32,452 --> 01:34:33,213
Speaker 3: That's a boys trip.

2045
01:34:33,732 --> 01:34:35,692
Speaker 2: What do you mean like when when when they say, well,

2046
01:34:36,253 --> 01:34:38,053
Speaker 2: but you're getting paid because you're going to cover a

2047
01:34:38,133 --> 01:34:41,492
Speaker 2: sports event. It just so happens that it's a sports

2048
01:34:41,532 --> 01:34:42,932
Speaker 2: event you wanted to go to as well.

2049
01:34:43,093 --> 01:34:46,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, tell your situation recently is that Mave's parents

2050
01:34:46,532 --> 01:34:48,973
Speaker 3: own a batch in Mobra. Sounds and beautiful part of

2051
01:34:49,053 --> 01:34:51,692
Speaker 3: the country, but it is a proper batch. It's a

2052
01:34:51,732 --> 01:34:55,692
Speaker 3: key we batch. It's got bunk beards, all that beautiful stuff. Now,

2053
01:34:56,412 --> 01:34:58,772
Speaker 3: I asked if we could have a boy's trip at

2054
01:34:58,893 --> 01:35:02,173
Speaker 3: her parents batch for the first time. So may Eve

2055
01:35:02,293 --> 01:35:04,333
Speaker 3: and none of the family members who actually own this

2056
01:35:04,452 --> 01:35:08,053
Speaker 3: batch are invited to the strip. And that was quite

2057
01:35:08,053 --> 01:35:10,612
Speaker 3: a hard hard sell. Is that may have kind of thought, well,

2058
01:35:10,812 --> 01:35:13,213
Speaker 3: it's my batch, my family's batch. I should be there

2059
01:35:13,372 --> 01:35:15,372
Speaker 3: and if I'm there, then the girls are coming too.

2060
01:35:16,253 --> 01:35:18,412
Speaker 3: And I said, well, this is just the boys' trip.

2061
01:35:18,492 --> 01:35:20,173
Speaker 3: This is a fishing trip just for the lads. You

2062
01:35:20,253 --> 01:35:23,452
Speaker 3: can do the girls trip, but because it was her batch, yeah,

2063
01:35:23,492 --> 01:35:25,333
Speaker 3: I mean, did I go a little bit too far there?

2064
01:35:25,333 --> 01:35:26,932
Speaker 3: Her parents were okay with it in the end.

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01:35:27,973 --> 01:35:30,492
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that when there's a slight complication

2066
01:35:30,612 --> 01:35:31,053
Speaker 4: in that one.

2067
01:35:31,213 --> 01:35:34,612
Speaker 3: But she was cool with it, yeah in the end, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2068
01:35:34,612 --> 01:35:35,933
Speaker 3: And it was a great Swiss call with it in

2069
01:35:36,053 --> 01:35:36,372
Speaker 3: the end.

2070
01:35:37,013 --> 01:35:38,692
Speaker 2: Maybe wasn't cool that it came around to it in

2071
01:35:38,732 --> 01:35:41,213
Speaker 2: the end and it allowed it to happen, So I guess.

2072
01:35:41,372 --> 01:35:44,693
Speaker 2: So the question is is it in a healthy relationship

2073
01:35:44,893 --> 01:35:47,213
Speaker 2: do you go away on separate trips together?

2074
01:35:47,412 --> 01:35:47,612
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2075
01:35:47,732 --> 01:35:50,892
Speaker 3: Do you do you party individually? Do you go boys

2076
01:35:51,013 --> 01:35:54,012
Speaker 3: and girls trips? And if you don't think that's that's

2077
01:35:54,452 --> 01:35:58,333
Speaker 3: something you should do, why why oh eight hundred eighty

2078
01:35:58,452 --> 01:36:00,972
Speaker 3: ten eighty some plenty of plenty of good teachs coming

2079
01:36:01,013 --> 01:36:03,173
Speaker 3: through on nine two ninety two. Let's get into this

2080
01:36:03,333 --> 01:36:05,093
Speaker 3: is going to be a great shat. It is twenty

2081
01:36:05,133 --> 01:36:05,852
Speaker 3: two past three.

2082
01:36:10,253 --> 01:36:13,932
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

2083
01:36:14,173 --> 01:36:17,173
Speaker 1: eighty on news Talk ZB Good afternoons.

2084
01:36:17,293 --> 01:36:19,732
Speaker 3: So is it okay to go on a lad's trip

2085
01:36:19,853 --> 01:36:22,452
Speaker 3: or a girl's trip while you're in a relationship. It

2086
01:36:22,772 --> 01:36:25,652
Speaker 3: was a post on Reddit's a young man asked for

2087
01:36:25,933 --> 01:36:29,013
Speaker 3: advice after he was invited to a lad's trip and

2088
01:36:29,053 --> 01:36:31,932
Speaker 3: his girlfriend wasn't too happy about that. Brenda, what's your view?

2089
01:36:34,492 --> 01:36:39,052
Speaker 3: Hey you Brenda, I might have to come back to Brenda.

2090
01:36:39,213 --> 01:36:42,452
Speaker 3: Quick text here from Tammy said, gooday, guys, I think

2091
01:36:42,492 --> 01:36:45,133
Speaker 3: it depends on if the lady has ever been on

2092
01:36:45,293 --> 01:36:48,972
Speaker 3: holiday with her partner and is it your combined savings?

2093
01:36:49,133 --> 01:36:49,333
Speaker 21: Oh?

2094
01:36:49,692 --> 01:36:52,293
Speaker 2: Fair, right, so you've never if you've never taken your

2095
01:36:52,772 --> 01:36:56,013
Speaker 2: partner on a holiday at all, and then you go

2096
01:36:56,532 --> 01:36:58,333
Speaker 2: on a boys trip.

2097
01:36:58,692 --> 01:36:59,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see.

2098
01:37:00,013 --> 01:37:02,772
Speaker 4: I can see how your your lovely partner might be going.

2099
01:37:03,933 --> 01:37:04,133
Speaker 30: Yeah.

2100
01:37:04,213 --> 01:37:06,372
Speaker 3: So as like the question you asked before, Tyler, what's

2101
01:37:06,412 --> 01:37:06,852
Speaker 3: the ratio?

2102
01:37:07,253 --> 01:37:10,772
Speaker 4: So is it one trip to one away with your partner?

2103
01:37:10,973 --> 01:37:12,412
Speaker 2: Does it have to be fifty to fifty or do

2104
01:37:12,412 --> 01:37:13,972
Speaker 2: you think it should be seventy five to twenty five

2105
01:37:14,053 --> 01:37:15,692
Speaker 2: in favor of your partner or vice versa.

2106
01:37:16,053 --> 01:37:17,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point though. If you've got the

2107
01:37:17,692 --> 01:37:20,452
Speaker 3: holiday savings for you and your partner or your wife

2108
01:37:20,532 --> 01:37:23,692
Speaker 3: or your husband, and then the husband comes to you

2109
01:37:23,772 --> 01:37:25,572
Speaker 3: and say, hey, the boys have invited me out on

2110
01:37:25,612 --> 01:37:28,092
Speaker 3: a fishing trip. Can I just tap into the holiday

2111
01:37:28,572 --> 01:37:31,492
Speaker 3: savings accounts? I think that's probably a step too fast, Sue.

2112
01:37:31,532 --> 01:37:36,572
Speaker 3: What do you reckon? Hey you Sue? Oh, he might

2113
01:37:36,612 --> 01:37:38,932
Speaker 3: be having some trouble with the phone lines there, Andrew,

2114
01:37:38,933 --> 01:37:41,732
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. We're gonna get to the headlines

2115
01:37:41,853 --> 01:37:45,293
Speaker 3: very shortly. We'll try that again. No, we're definitely having

2116
01:37:45,333 --> 01:37:47,572
Speaker 3: some phone issues. Quick couple of texts and then we'll

2117
01:37:47,572 --> 01:37:50,173
Speaker 3: get to the headlines. Hey, guys, I supported my wife

2118
01:37:50,293 --> 01:37:55,932
Speaker 3: going away on the condition she didn't come back from Darren. Hi, Darren. Oh,

2119
01:37:56,412 --> 01:37:59,173
Speaker 3: so I think horrible Darren. I think we've got you, now,

2120
01:37:59,213 --> 01:37:59,732
Speaker 3: do we, Sue?

2121
01:38:00,692 --> 01:38:00,732
Speaker 14: So?

2122
01:38:01,572 --> 01:38:04,812
Speaker 3: So, yeah, how are you problem?

2123
01:38:05,452 --> 01:38:05,692
Speaker 17: Guys?

2124
01:38:05,772 --> 01:38:06,093
Speaker 32: Tell are you?

2125
01:38:06,412 --> 01:38:08,932
Speaker 3: Yeah? Very good? So what's your take on the lad's

2126
01:38:08,933 --> 01:38:09,892
Speaker 3: trip or the girls trip?

2127
01:38:10,973 --> 01:38:14,812
Speaker 32: Nothing wrong with them? Absolutely nothing wrong with them. When

2128
01:38:14,853 --> 01:38:17,572
Speaker 32: I was married and I'm widowed, I'm not divorced or anything.

2129
01:38:18,452 --> 01:38:20,892
Speaker 32: When I was married, my husband and I we would

2130
01:38:21,253 --> 01:38:25,173
Speaker 32: do things together. We always planning things together, So planning

2131
01:38:25,253 --> 01:38:29,173
Speaker 32: things together was our default position. But if something came up,

2132
01:38:29,532 --> 01:38:32,093
Speaker 32: like a girl's trip away or a guy's weekend away

2133
01:38:32,412 --> 01:38:35,892
Speaker 32: or whatever, we would do those on our own You've

2134
01:38:35,933 --> 01:38:38,372
Speaker 32: got to have your own interests as well. You can't

2135
01:38:39,013 --> 01:38:42,852
Speaker 32: be just doing everything as a unit. You've got to

2136
01:38:42,893 --> 01:38:44,852
Speaker 32: be a part. And are you always used to look

2137
01:38:44,893 --> 01:38:46,652
Speaker 32: at it? I used to love it when he went

2138
01:38:46,732 --> 01:38:51,213
Speaker 32: away because he was away having fun. And I if

2139
01:38:51,293 --> 01:38:54,333
Speaker 32: you love someone, why would you ever stop them having fun?

2140
01:38:55,013 --> 01:38:57,692
Speaker 32: Loving them is part of making their lives happy.

2141
01:38:58,213 --> 01:39:00,452
Speaker 2: Do you think it's an insecurity thing if you don't

2142
01:39:00,492 --> 01:39:02,812
Speaker 2: want your partner to go away on a boys or

2143
01:39:02,853 --> 01:39:06,293
Speaker 2: a girl's trip. Do you think it's it's you think

2144
01:39:06,372 --> 01:39:09,133
Speaker 2: that maybe they'll meet another girl or boy on that

2145
01:39:09,293 --> 01:39:11,492
Speaker 2: boy's trip and not come back.

2146
01:39:12,412 --> 01:39:15,973
Speaker 32: Yeah, the problem is all from that scenario that you

2147
01:39:16,093 --> 01:39:16,892
Speaker 32: read out at the start.

2148
01:39:16,973 --> 01:39:19,253
Speaker 20: It was it was all a woman's problem the guy,

2149
01:39:19,333 --> 01:39:20,333
Speaker 20: you know, am I the ahole?

2150
01:39:20,532 --> 01:39:25,293
Speaker 32: No, he's not, absolutely not. You know, It's a lot

2151
01:39:25,333 --> 01:39:30,293
Speaker 32: of it is someone else's insecurity. They feel threatened in

2152
01:39:30,372 --> 01:39:34,213
Speaker 32: the relationship for whatever reason, whether whether there is something

2153
01:39:34,253 --> 01:39:37,972
Speaker 32: to justify or it's just themselves. There is a deeper

2154
01:39:38,053 --> 01:39:41,053
Speaker 32: problem than just saying no to someone going away on

2155
01:39:41,133 --> 01:39:41,652
Speaker 32: a holiday.

2156
01:39:42,133 --> 01:39:45,412
Speaker 3: And so if you had some pretty decent girls trips.

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Speaker 32: In your time, Oh, I'm a lot younger. Gosh, I'm

2158
01:39:48,612 --> 01:39:51,973
Speaker 32: past it now, but I was younger absolutely. You know,

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01:39:52,093 --> 01:39:56,173
Speaker 32: I went away to the Cook Islands with friends on

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01:39:56,492 --> 01:39:59,012
Speaker 32: a girl's week. I've been to Hawaii on a girl's week.

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01:39:59,333 --> 01:40:02,333
Speaker 32: I've done a lot of things in Australia several times

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01:40:02,893 --> 01:40:06,132
Speaker 32: just for girls. And quite thinkly, you know, my husband

2163
01:40:06,213 --> 01:40:09,213
Speaker 32: used to say he couldn't think of anything worse then

2164
01:40:09,532 --> 01:40:12,892
Speaker 32: going away doing what we wanted to do, not lie

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01:40:12,973 --> 01:40:14,293
Speaker 32: on the beach and eat.

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01:40:15,772 --> 01:40:19,692
Speaker 3: Maybe drinking. Yeah, part of me actually thinks, and I'll

2167
01:40:19,732 --> 01:40:21,452
Speaker 3: get a little bit deep here, but I actually think

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01:40:21,532 --> 01:40:25,173
Speaker 3: it's probably more important for fellers to have those boys

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01:40:25,253 --> 01:40:27,452
Speaker 3: weekends than for the ladies. And the reason I say

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01:40:27,532 --> 01:40:31,052
Speaker 3: that it's yes yet sexist, but as guys get older,

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01:40:31,173 --> 01:40:33,812
Speaker 3: and we've seen it gets a lot harder to maintain

2172
01:40:33,893 --> 01:40:37,372
Speaker 3: those friendships for fellers and to make new friends. It's

2173
01:40:37,452 --> 01:40:38,133
Speaker 3: just the facts, right.

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01:40:38,253 --> 01:40:40,733
Speaker 2: It seems that females are better at holding their friendships

2175
01:40:40,772 --> 01:40:43,532
Speaker 2: and keeping them to a deeper level. And you know,

2176
01:40:43,732 --> 01:40:46,372
Speaker 2: the stats play out that men disassociate as they get

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01:40:46,412 --> 01:40:48,892
Speaker 2: older and then they rely.

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01:40:48,853 --> 01:40:50,572
Speaker 3: On their partners to organize a lot of stuff. So

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01:40:50,652 --> 01:40:50,972
Speaker 3: it's good.

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01:40:51,013 --> 01:40:52,692
Speaker 2: It's good for the male mental health, and that's a

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01:40:52,732 --> 01:40:54,572
Speaker 2: good thing to say to your partner as well. This

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01:40:54,933 --> 01:40:59,612
Speaker 2: is a mental health weekend. It's not golf, it's not partying,

2183
01:40:59,893 --> 01:41:03,812
Speaker 2: it's not all about the drinking. This is about mental health.

2184
01:41:03,973 --> 01:41:05,572
Speaker 3: That's a great line. I think you've cracked this one.

2185
01:41:05,853 --> 01:41:09,293
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty to hear you are from

2186
01:41:09,372 --> 01:41:11,333
Speaker 3: you on this one. Was this guy the jerk in

2187
01:41:11,412 --> 01:41:14,133
Speaker 3: this situation? Or was it his girlfriend who was the jerk?

2188
01:41:14,213 --> 01:41:19,333
Speaker 3: It's twenty nine past three deuce talks.

2189
01:41:19,372 --> 01:41:21,933
Speaker 5: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

2190
01:41:22,013 --> 01:41:25,172
Speaker 14: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. A third person

2191
01:41:25,492 --> 01:41:27,892
Speaker 14: has been charged with murder over the death of an

2192
01:41:27,933 --> 01:41:30,572
Speaker 14: Auckland man found in the middle of Point England Road

2193
01:41:30,732 --> 01:41:33,572
Speaker 14: ten days ago. The two men, age in nineteen and

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01:41:33,692 --> 01:41:36,532
Speaker 14: twenty one, and a twenty two year old woman have

2195
01:41:36,732 --> 01:41:40,572
Speaker 14: also been charged with aggravated robbery. Police are warning this

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Speaker 14: Halloween to make sure children don't collect meth lollies while

2197
01:41:44,612 --> 01:41:47,772
Speaker 14: trick or treating. It's thought some of the toxic fake

2198
01:41:48,013 --> 01:41:52,492
Speaker 14: Rinda brand pineapple sweets are still in the community. One

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01:41:52,572 --> 01:41:55,572
Speaker 14: person has died at a commercial christ Urch workplace on

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01:41:55,732 --> 01:42:00,932
Speaker 14: Carmen Road in Hornby about twelve forty This afternoon. Auckland

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Speaker 14: police are trying to find missing Manodair with twelve year

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Speaker 14: old Frankie, who has a distinctive birthmark on the side

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01:42:07,173 --> 01:42:09,973
Speaker 14: of her neck and head and could be in Faraday

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01:42:10,173 --> 01:42:14,213
Speaker 14: or South Auckland. The first monitored keyweed chick of the

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01:42:14,293 --> 01:42:17,293
Speaker 14: season has hatched and held's west of Wellington, weighing in

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Speaker 14: at a healthy two hundred and seventy grams. Government looking

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Speaker 14: at privatizing airport security to cut costs and cues. You

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Speaker 14: can read more at Enzen Herald Premium. Now back to

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Speaker 14: Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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01:42:29,893 --> 01:42:32,173
Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen. It is twenty eight to four.

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01:42:32,253 --> 01:42:34,692
Speaker 2: We're just talking about boys trips and girls' trips and

2212
01:42:34,933 --> 01:42:38,492
Speaker 2: as healthy for relationships if you head off with your

2213
01:42:38,532 --> 01:42:40,772
Speaker 2: mates without your partner every now and then. And I've

2214
01:42:40,812 --> 01:42:42,692
Speaker 2: just had an interesting things happened. I just realized it's

2215
01:42:42,692 --> 01:42:45,652
Speaker 2: happening this time. I just texted Tracy and I said,

2216
01:42:45,692 --> 01:42:47,133
Speaker 2: you want to go to Oasis. We should book some

2217
01:42:47,173 --> 01:42:49,133
Speaker 2: tickets to Wassis in Australia yep.

2218
01:42:49,253 --> 01:42:50,652
Speaker 4: And she said put it on the list of.

2219
01:42:50,652 --> 01:42:51,412
Speaker 3: Holidays we're doing.

2220
01:42:51,492 --> 01:42:54,532
Speaker 2: Does that mean I can now transition that trip into

2221
01:42:54,572 --> 01:42:57,013
Speaker 2: a boys trip by texting my mate Prong. I was

2222
01:42:57,053 --> 01:42:58,612
Speaker 2: just about to do it and say, mate, do you

2223
01:42:58,652 --> 01:43:00,452
Speaker 2: want to go to Oasis? Because she's sort of poop

2224
01:43:00,452 --> 01:43:00,852
Speaker 2: pooed it.

2225
01:43:01,253 --> 01:43:02,973
Speaker 3: She hasn't said no though she said put it on

2226
01:43:03,053 --> 01:43:04,572
Speaker 3: the list. I think that's poop oing it.

2227
01:43:04,812 --> 01:43:04,972
Speaker 7: Oh.

2228
01:43:05,053 --> 01:43:07,532
Speaker 3: I know that you're a brave man to just already

2229
01:43:07,692 --> 01:43:09,732
Speaker 3: without saying because you're going to go back to Tracy

2230
01:43:09,772 --> 01:43:12,213
Speaker 3: and say, hey, are you in or out? Just one

2231
01:43:12,293 --> 01:43:14,173
Speaker 3: hundred percent? Because I need to know because Prong wants

2232
01:43:14,213 --> 01:43:17,692
Speaker 3: to He's a massive Oasis fan fan. Yeah, and it

2233
01:43:17,812 --> 01:43:19,213
Speaker 3: might be. You're not going to say it's going to

2234
01:43:19,213 --> 01:43:20,612
Speaker 3: be a boys trip. You just want to say Prong

2235
01:43:20,652 --> 01:43:21,333
Speaker 3: wants to come along.

2236
01:43:21,372 --> 01:43:24,372
Speaker 2: It's an Oasis trip, that's what it is. And you

2237
01:43:24,652 --> 01:43:27,013
Speaker 2: you were lukewarm on it, so it's now now it's

2238
01:43:27,013 --> 01:43:28,012
Speaker 2: turned into a boys trip.

2239
01:43:28,213 --> 01:43:29,173
Speaker 4: Slash awaysis trip?

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01:43:29,692 --> 01:43:31,372
Speaker 3: I don't know, Brenda, how are you?

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01:43:32,013 --> 01:43:32,173
Speaker 19: Hi?

2242
01:43:32,492 --> 01:43:32,692
Speaker 28: Good?

2243
01:43:32,732 --> 01:43:33,013
Speaker 33: Thank you?

2244
01:43:34,333 --> 01:43:36,933
Speaker 3: Girls trips? Are you are? You're a big fan of

2245
01:43:37,013 --> 01:43:38,372
Speaker 3: doing a girls trip without your partner?

2246
01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:39,812
Speaker 7: Nah?

2247
01:43:40,532 --> 01:43:40,732
Speaker 21: Nah?

2248
01:43:40,853 --> 01:43:43,133
Speaker 3: Nah good you?

2249
01:43:43,293 --> 01:43:43,333
Speaker 19: No?

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01:43:43,772 --> 01:43:45,412
Speaker 26: No no no no no no no no.

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01:43:45,612 --> 01:43:47,333
Speaker 3: What about him doing boys trips without you?

2252
01:43:48,492 --> 01:43:48,532
Speaker 25: No?

2253
01:43:49,173 --> 01:43:49,213
Speaker 7: No?

2254
01:43:49,732 --> 01:43:52,652
Speaker 3: So all trips have to be together together it or

2255
01:43:52,732 --> 01:43:56,412
Speaker 3: never the couple that plays together stays together. You regain Brenda.

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01:43:56,612 --> 01:43:57,812
Speaker 34: Absolutely, that's it.

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01:43:58,213 --> 01:43:59,652
Speaker 33: We're represented the one mate.

2258
01:44:00,173 --> 01:44:02,532
Speaker 2: Brenda, what are your what are your fears about a

2259
01:44:02,933 --> 01:44:05,892
Speaker 2: boy's trip without your partner going on a boy's trip?

2260
01:44:08,053 --> 01:44:11,972
Speaker 33: I would I wouldn't say fear was just sometimes when

2261
01:44:12,013 --> 01:44:13,492
Speaker 33: you're going to be on your own, you get off

2262
01:44:13,612 --> 01:44:16,213
Speaker 33: track and you know you have too much fun that you.

2263
01:44:16,293 --> 01:44:18,452
Speaker 15: Forget, like if you can go off track easily.

2264
01:44:19,612 --> 01:44:22,372
Speaker 16: CoA, that's ridiculous.

2265
01:44:22,652 --> 01:44:24,492
Speaker 3: I've never heard of a boys trip going off track.

2266
01:44:28,893 --> 01:44:33,732
Speaker 33: For next minute, who your woman is?

2267
01:44:34,133 --> 01:44:37,812
Speaker 3: Your boys trips are famously well behaved a fears that

2268
01:44:37,973 --> 01:44:40,092
Speaker 3: sounds like an incident that happened in the past. Brenda.

2269
01:44:40,213 --> 01:44:41,972
Speaker 3: Was there one boy's trip that just went a wee

2270
01:44:42,053 --> 01:44:45,293
Speaker 3: a wayward and you said, no more, no more? Yes,

2271
01:44:46,532 --> 01:44:50,213
Speaker 3: you learn from Okay, okay, can you tell us more?

2272
01:44:51,893 --> 01:44:52,372
Speaker 30: Absolutely?

2273
01:44:52,452 --> 01:44:54,892
Speaker 3: All right, take a seat on the couch. And what happened, Branda?

2274
01:44:54,933 --> 01:44:55,772
Speaker 3: What was the boys trip?

2275
01:44:57,013 --> 01:44:59,053
Speaker 33: Well, actually it wasn't so much a boys trip. It

2276
01:44:59,173 --> 01:45:01,693
Speaker 33: was actually a team.

2277
01:45:03,492 --> 01:45:04,333
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, yep.

2278
01:45:05,173 --> 01:45:09,492
Speaker 33: And you know me and Panna back then we shared

2279
01:45:09,532 --> 01:45:12,972
Speaker 33: everything and everything. So he went away spin a little

2280
01:45:13,013 --> 01:45:15,133
Speaker 33: bit and I didn't know anything.

2281
01:45:14,893 --> 01:45:15,572
Speaker 8: To do with the yacht.

2282
01:45:15,732 --> 01:45:17,213
Speaker 33: I didn't know there was a body in the yacht

2283
01:45:17,692 --> 01:45:19,452
Speaker 33: until I saw the transaction.

2284
01:45:19,973 --> 01:45:24,293
Speaker 3: Oh head transaction, and how much money was spent, I.

2285
01:45:24,293 --> 01:45:26,412
Speaker 33: Would say one night, probably almost two grand.

2286
01:45:27,973 --> 01:45:30,973
Speaker 3: I say, yeah, so if it's so, But would you

2287
01:45:30,973 --> 01:45:32,253
Speaker 3: sport a support.

2288
01:45:31,973 --> 01:45:36,253
Speaker 2: A fiscally responsible boys trip where everything had been outlined

2289
01:45:36,412 --> 01:45:38,532
Speaker 2: in advance and you were across the details?

2290
01:45:39,532 --> 01:45:40,933
Speaker 34: Oh why not? Why wouldn't you?

2291
01:45:41,253 --> 01:45:43,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's a fair point that Brenda made of

2292
01:45:44,093 --> 01:45:45,772
Speaker 3: May went off on the girl's trip, say, to the

2293
01:45:45,812 --> 01:45:48,973
Speaker 3: Gold Coast, and then came back and I look at

2294
01:45:49,013 --> 01:45:51,692
Speaker 3: the accounts and it's down ten grand because she went

2295
01:45:51,732 --> 01:45:53,932
Speaker 3: to the casino and got a bit silly. I would

2296
01:45:53,973 --> 01:45:54,933
Speaker 3: be pretty upset by that.

2297
01:45:55,652 --> 01:45:58,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that opens up a path for you to

2298
01:45:59,692 --> 01:46:02,012
Speaker 2: behave in a certain way on your next boys trip.

2299
01:46:02,053 --> 01:46:03,612
Speaker 3: Doesn't it like it's not bad?

2300
01:46:04,213 --> 01:46:06,333
Speaker 2: I mean ken, I mean, I know in relationships that

2301
01:46:06,412 --> 01:46:08,852
Speaker 2: really works up that those brownie points don't really seem

2302
01:46:08,933 --> 01:46:09,813
Speaker 2: to be transferable.

2303
01:46:10,452 --> 01:46:12,772
Speaker 3: Yeah experience, Yeah, yeah, not for the lads anyway.

2304
01:46:13,173 --> 01:46:16,572
Speaker 25: George good Fellows, how are you good?

2305
01:46:16,692 --> 01:46:19,612
Speaker 3: So you're a massive pro on the lads trip without

2306
01:46:19,692 --> 01:46:20,812
Speaker 3: the without the wife.

2307
01:46:22,053 --> 01:46:24,293
Speaker 25: I've certainly been on a few boys trips that have

2308
01:46:24,412 --> 01:46:27,412
Speaker 25: gone off track. As the last caller she'd met, I'm

2309
01:46:27,452 --> 01:46:30,133
Speaker 25: a converted radio hope Ay listeners. So you're doing a

2310
01:46:30,133 --> 01:46:31,652
Speaker 25: great job with the new show. I really like it.

2311
01:46:32,572 --> 01:46:33,492
Speaker 3: Welcome a board, George.

2312
01:46:33,532 --> 01:46:37,253
Speaker 25: Well we have made as we've got well, my wife anyway,

2313
01:46:37,333 --> 01:46:40,133
Speaker 25: she's part of They call it a book club. Anyway,

2314
01:46:40,133 --> 01:46:42,693
Speaker 25: I'm not sure how many books they actually speak.

2315
01:46:42,452 --> 01:46:44,612
Speaker 30: About, George George.

2316
01:46:44,652 --> 01:46:46,692
Speaker 2: There's there's there's there's a test on a on a

2317
01:46:46,933 --> 01:46:48,652
Speaker 2: on a book club. If a book club ends up

2318
01:46:48,652 --> 01:46:50,333
Speaker 2: in a nightclub, it was never a book club.

2319
01:46:51,612 --> 01:46:54,293
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure plenty of that happens as well.

2320
01:46:54,372 --> 01:46:56,932
Speaker 25: What we do is we're actually doing quite good mates

2321
01:46:56,973 --> 01:47:00,093
Speaker 25: with all the fellas or the plus ones within that

2322
01:47:00,652 --> 01:47:03,652
Speaker 25: group of mates. So we've done our fishure of trips

2323
01:47:03,692 --> 01:47:06,052
Speaker 25: and what have you. Is a is a group of guys.

2324
01:47:06,893 --> 01:47:09,412
Speaker 25: I think it's actually quite healthy. We when all the

2325
01:47:09,492 --> 01:47:11,372
Speaker 25: couples tend to know each other, you know, because then

2326
01:47:11,412 --> 01:47:12,772
Speaker 25: you get a bit of the girls go off and

2327
01:47:12,853 --> 01:47:14,812
Speaker 25: do their fun, the guys off their fun. But you

2328
01:47:14,933 --> 01:47:17,972
Speaker 25: can inevitably get events I don't know, willing to cut

2329
01:47:18,053 --> 01:47:20,452
Speaker 25: races where everyone comes together. I mean, it's good. So

2330
01:47:20,492 --> 01:47:24,412
Speaker 25: it's not certainly not a boys trip where the girls

2331
01:47:24,452 --> 01:47:26,932
Speaker 25: don't know who they are or vice versa, and it's

2332
01:47:27,133 --> 01:47:29,053
Speaker 25: it's quite a you know, we're in the stage of

2333
01:47:29,093 --> 01:47:31,253
Speaker 25: bringing up young family and I'm sure you guys can

2334
01:47:31,293 --> 01:47:33,612
Speaker 25: comment on listen, the past is sctually quite healthy. A

2335
01:47:33,692 --> 01:47:37,053
Speaker 25: little bit of time away from for either partner. But

2336
01:47:37,173 --> 01:47:39,052
Speaker 25: don't get me wrong, it seems to be a common

2337
01:47:39,053 --> 01:47:41,412
Speaker 25: occurrence that when when we go around trip to our

2338
01:47:41,452 --> 01:47:46,092
Speaker 25: onnes are a bit more larger and expensive, consistent monthly

2339
01:47:46,173 --> 01:47:46,772
Speaker 25: catch ups that the.

2340
01:47:46,812 --> 01:47:47,372
Speaker 8: Girls did have.

2341
01:47:47,893 --> 01:47:50,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the thing with you know, and male mental

2342
01:47:50,772 --> 01:47:52,932
Speaker 2: health is an issue in this country, and so it's

2343
01:47:52,973 --> 01:47:53,732
Speaker 2: female mental health.

2344
01:47:53,812 --> 01:47:54,812
Speaker 4: But as we were saying.

2345
01:47:54,652 --> 01:47:58,372
Speaker 2: Before, men can tend to not do the work it

2346
01:47:58,492 --> 01:48:02,133
Speaker 2: takes to keep friendships going. Yeah, and there's a term

2347
01:48:02,293 --> 01:48:04,133
Speaker 2: that people are using our call being the shirpa, and

2348
01:48:04,213 --> 01:48:07,093
Speaker 2: it's being that the guy in your friend group that

2349
01:48:07,333 --> 01:48:10,333
Speaker 2: organizes things to get people together, that gold does those

2350
01:48:10,732 --> 01:48:13,412
Speaker 2: because the stats on men dying alone and the stats

2351
01:48:14,093 --> 01:48:16,293
Speaker 2: on men having no one to reach out to, no

2352
01:48:16,372 --> 01:48:19,333
Speaker 2: one close outside of their relationship and if their relationship ends,

2353
01:48:19,532 --> 01:48:22,732
Speaker 2: having no one at all outside of work, and especially

2354
01:48:22,772 --> 01:48:25,333
Speaker 2: going into retirement, A lot of men men end up

2355
01:48:25,372 --> 01:48:28,093
Speaker 2: on their own, and that's because the work hasn't been

2356
01:48:28,213 --> 01:48:31,932
Speaker 2: done to get together. And as much as a boys

2357
01:48:31,933 --> 01:48:35,292
Speaker 2: strip may just be an absolute rack up, it's stories.

2358
01:48:35,412 --> 01:48:38,572
Speaker 2: It's keeping friends together. And I think it's a very

2359
01:48:38,692 --> 01:48:40,732
Speaker 2: very important part of your life, your relationship, and you

2360
01:48:40,772 --> 01:48:42,772
Speaker 2: want to be a great partner, but you also want

2361
01:48:42,772 --> 01:48:44,213
Speaker 2: to have a great group of friends, and you want

2362
01:48:44,253 --> 01:48:46,732
Speaker 2: to put the work into both areas of your life nicely.

2363
01:48:46,812 --> 01:48:49,213
Speaker 3: See, because fellers buy and large, I mean some fellows

2364
01:48:49,253 --> 01:48:50,612
Speaker 3: do this, but if you haven't a bit of a

2365
01:48:50,692 --> 01:48:54,133
Speaker 3: crap day, I would assume there'd be a lot of

2366
01:48:54,173 --> 01:48:56,253
Speaker 3: fellows out there in New Zealand that wouldn't ticks their

2367
01:48:56,333 --> 01:48:58,852
Speaker 3: mate and said, had a real crappy day. Can I

2368
01:48:59,053 --> 01:49:01,052
Speaker 3: just come over and we just watch some some crappy

2369
01:49:01,093 --> 01:49:04,173
Speaker 3: tea together. Guys don't do that. Girls do that very well.

2370
01:49:04,412 --> 01:49:07,053
Speaker 3: Guys need an excuse to get together, and sometimes that

2371
01:49:07,173 --> 01:49:09,012
Speaker 3: excuse is having a beer and a post and they've.

2372
01:49:08,812 --> 01:49:10,412
Speaker 2: Sort of done some research on it to say that

2373
01:49:10,612 --> 01:49:13,372
Speaker 2: men don't get together face to face and this is

2374
01:49:13,492 --> 01:49:15,812
Speaker 2: alcohol involved, but they don't get to face to face

2375
01:49:15,893 --> 01:49:18,452
Speaker 2: and talk about their lives. And maybe go that little

2376
01:49:18,532 --> 01:49:20,772
Speaker 2: deeper bit unless they're doing something else, and that's why

2377
01:49:21,133 --> 01:49:24,133
Speaker 2: a golf trip's so so good, or doing something where

2378
01:49:24,133 --> 01:49:26,892
Speaker 2: they're doing something together. They've got a reason to be together.

2379
01:49:27,173 --> 01:49:29,652
Speaker 2: And then the talking and if someone's got a problem

2380
01:49:29,772 --> 01:49:31,932
Speaker 2: might come out of it bit deeper into the trip.

2381
01:49:32,093 --> 01:49:34,973
Speaker 3: Yeap bang on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty and

2382
01:49:35,412 --> 01:49:37,173
Speaker 3: up next speaking about boys trips.

2383
01:49:37,213 --> 01:49:40,572
Speaker 2: Out on boys trips of course stagnoo's and I've got

2384
01:49:40,612 --> 01:49:43,372
Speaker 2: the perfect way to make a stag do work to

2385
01:49:43,452 --> 01:49:47,492
Speaker 2: take a stag to the craziest and best level possible,

2386
01:49:47,492 --> 01:49:48,412
Speaker 2: and I want to share that with you.

2387
01:49:48,572 --> 01:49:51,572
Speaker 3: This is going to be good. Twenty to four, it's done.

2388
01:49:51,652 --> 01:49:54,492
Speaker 1: You take on talk bag Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

2389
01:49:54,652 --> 01:49:58,133
Speaker 1: afternoons have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty

2390
01:49:58,293 --> 01:49:58,852
Speaker 1: news talks.

2391
01:49:58,893 --> 01:50:01,932
Speaker 3: They'd be very good. Afternoon we're talking about lad's trips

2392
01:50:01,973 --> 01:50:05,093
Speaker 3: and the girls trip. Are they healthy for a relationship

2393
01:50:05,253 --> 01:50:07,333
Speaker 3: and you how do we tease about was it the

2394
01:50:07,412 --> 01:50:08,252
Speaker 3: ultimate stagdoo?

2395
01:50:08,412 --> 01:50:10,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I'm gonna this is gonna be controversial and

2396
01:50:10,452 --> 01:50:12,053
Speaker 2: a lot of people say that's not a stag do

2397
01:50:12,133 --> 01:50:13,732
Speaker 2: and it's and it's and it's purity.

2398
01:50:15,133 --> 01:50:17,452
Speaker 4: But I've been on a few stagdoos recently that.

2399
01:50:17,572 --> 01:50:20,572
Speaker 2: Have had an innovation which will be a modern innovation

2400
01:50:21,053 --> 01:50:25,772
Speaker 2: and evolves maybe eight hours with the boys, but then

2401
01:50:26,612 --> 01:50:28,812
Speaker 2: the stag Doo meets up with the Hen's party.

2402
01:50:29,372 --> 01:50:29,652
Speaker 5: Wow.

2403
01:50:29,933 --> 01:50:32,412
Speaker 3: So both teams go out.

2404
01:50:32,293 --> 01:50:35,852
Speaker 2: From about lunch time and then and then at a

2405
01:50:35,933 --> 01:50:39,173
Speaker 2: set time, the hens party and the stag do meet

2406
01:50:39,253 --> 01:50:44,892
Speaker 2: and that's when that's when sparks fly, ensured, that's when

2407
01:50:44,973 --> 01:50:47,933
Speaker 2: things get real. And that is a hell of a

2408
01:50:48,093 --> 01:50:50,572
Speaker 2: hell of a good time. And there's probably Stagdoo purists

2409
01:50:50,572 --> 01:50:52,133
Speaker 2: out there that go, no, no, no, no no. Stagg

2410
01:50:52,293 --> 01:50:54,213
Speaker 2: is a stag doo hens but his hands with never

2411
01:50:54,372 --> 01:50:57,173
Speaker 2: the twain shall meet. But but I say try it.

2412
01:50:57,652 --> 01:50:59,612
Speaker 3: So with the groom to be and the bride to

2413
01:50:59,652 --> 01:51:03,692
Speaker 3: be they meet up as well. Yeah, that's bold, it's old.

2414
01:51:04,213 --> 01:51:08,213
Speaker 2: It's like a crashing of two oceans. A lot happens,

2415
01:51:08,492 --> 01:51:10,812
Speaker 2: a lot goes on. It's also a great opportunity for

2416
01:51:10,853 --> 01:51:15,612
Speaker 2: people that are maybe single to maybe it's a great

2417
01:51:15,652 --> 01:51:17,892
Speaker 2: way to meet great singles party as well.

2418
01:51:18,133 --> 01:51:20,452
Speaker 3: Craig, how you doing okay?

2419
01:51:20,572 --> 01:51:20,732
Speaker 18: Bad?

2420
01:51:20,812 --> 01:51:22,852
Speaker 8: I thought my freend Stagg. Do you think was a

2421
01:51:22,893 --> 01:51:27,093
Speaker 8: little bit worse than that. But anyway, we basically he

2422
01:51:27,213 --> 01:51:28,372
Speaker 8: got a bit too much of the track. We put

2423
01:51:28,452 --> 01:51:30,492
Speaker 8: him on a bus from Hamilton to Wllington with a

2424
01:51:30,492 --> 01:51:36,973
Speaker 8: suitcase and all we have was bras and songs when

2425
01:51:37,013 --> 01:51:38,532
Speaker 8: you went down there. So we said, oh, you won't

2426
01:51:38,572 --> 01:51:40,213
Speaker 8: go to Wellington and we're problem in the bussy kind

2427
01:51:40,213 --> 01:51:41,053
Speaker 8: of passed down the lift.

2428
01:51:42,612 --> 01:51:44,772
Speaker 2: I've been involved in some terrible staggers with terrible things

2429
01:51:44,812 --> 01:51:46,892
Speaker 2: that happened. That's kind of thing that the Hens Party

2430
01:51:47,013 --> 01:51:49,213
Speaker 2: might stop. Actually what happens is the Hens Party turns

2431
01:51:49,253 --> 01:51:51,572
Speaker 2: up and their worse behaved. Yeah, and they actually instigate

2432
01:51:51,572 --> 01:51:53,492
Speaker 2: the stuff, but thet they're going to be sensible, but

2433
01:51:53,532 --> 01:51:55,932
Speaker 2: that way worse. But they're implicit and anything that happens,

2434
01:51:56,013 --> 01:52:00,372
Speaker 2: you know, it's plausible deniability. It's sheared, she had guilt

2435
01:52:00,372 --> 01:52:01,372
Speaker 2: and she had responsibility.

2436
01:52:02,133 --> 01:52:04,412
Speaker 3: So the lad anyway, Yeah, you're going to get the leader.

2437
01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:06,812
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a good idea because I

2438
01:52:06,893 --> 01:52:08,932
Speaker 8: reckon you spend time oay from me and you tend

2439
01:52:09,013 --> 01:52:14,572
Speaker 8: to appreciate them more. In my relationship, my partner bumped

2440
01:52:14,612 --> 01:52:16,692
Speaker 8: into her whole boyfriend and moved up to the north

2441
01:52:16,692 --> 01:52:19,572
Speaker 8: Old years ago and she asked me he wanted to

2442
01:52:19,652 --> 01:52:21,093
Speaker 8: take me out for a dinner to catch up, and

2443
01:52:21,133 --> 01:52:23,133
Speaker 8: I was quite happy with that, and she goes, you sure,

2444
01:52:23,173 --> 01:52:24,893
Speaker 8: that's okay, and I see that I trust you. So

2445
01:52:25,772 --> 01:52:28,333
Speaker 8: he's got to be trusting the relationship. But then on

2446
01:52:28,412 --> 01:52:30,652
Speaker 8: the other side of things, as my workmate I work

2447
01:52:30,732 --> 01:52:34,772
Speaker 8: with went fishing every weekend, every fortnighte with some one

2448
01:52:34,812 --> 01:52:38,093
Speaker 8: of the people from work, and there's always like, I'm

2449
01:52:38,093 --> 01:52:40,133
Speaker 8: going fishing with Sam. So the wife's like, oh, you're

2450
01:52:40,133 --> 01:52:42,253
Speaker 8: fair enough, We've been doing it for years. And then

2451
01:52:42,372 --> 01:52:44,253
Speaker 8: one day they caught a really large fish and he

2452
01:52:44,333 --> 01:52:46,652
Speaker 8: posted the photo on Facebook and he's Sam and a

2453
01:52:46,652 --> 01:52:49,612
Speaker 8: bikini hold the fish, and the whites like Sam and

2454
01:52:49,652 --> 01:52:50,732
Speaker 8: he goes, oh, yes, Samantha.

2455
01:52:51,893 --> 01:52:52,093
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2456
01:52:52,452 --> 01:52:55,093
Speaker 8: They didn't go down too well from their relationship after that.

2457
01:52:55,652 --> 01:52:55,812
Speaker 24: Yeah.

2458
01:52:55,812 --> 01:52:57,933
Speaker 8: I mean, if you trust your partner good enough to

2459
01:52:57,973 --> 01:53:00,293
Speaker 8: be in a relationship, you should trust them to go

2460
01:53:00,452 --> 01:53:02,293
Speaker 8: out and they should be able to know their boundaries

2461
01:53:02,333 --> 01:53:04,772
Speaker 8: and go over there. I mean, there should be mutual respect.

2462
01:53:04,812 --> 01:53:06,772
Speaker 3: I reckon between couples absolutely, Craig.

2463
01:53:06,812 --> 01:53:09,412
Speaker 2: If you love someone, set in the free regularly, and

2464
01:53:09,532 --> 01:53:11,532
Speaker 2: if it's meant to be, they come back again.

2465
01:53:11,612 --> 01:53:14,013
Speaker 3: I think there's some kind of thing that is that

2466
01:53:14,093 --> 01:53:15,812
Speaker 3: a sting. I think there's my best thing. So I

2467
01:53:15,893 --> 01:53:19,253
Speaker 3: think it does help if your partner or wife knows

2468
01:53:19,333 --> 01:53:21,692
Speaker 3: that the friends knows the friends you're going with a

2469
01:53:21,772 --> 01:53:23,492
Speaker 3: lad trip on, you know what I mean, So that

2470
01:53:24,492 --> 01:53:28,133
Speaker 3: there's an added sense of trust that, yes, there's always

2471
01:53:28,253 --> 01:53:30,892
Speaker 3: one person in the group that can lead the others astray,

2472
01:53:31,013 --> 01:53:33,492
Speaker 3: but as long as your partner wife knows who that

2473
01:53:33,612 --> 01:53:35,972
Speaker 3: person is, they can take the full heat of anything.

2474
01:53:36,133 --> 01:53:38,052
Speaker 2: Well you want as a Tyler in your life, someone

2475
01:53:38,133 --> 01:53:40,732
Speaker 2: that your partner will know is a responsible person, and

2476
01:53:40,812 --> 01:53:42,452
Speaker 2: you can say Tyler's going to be on the trips

2477
01:53:42,812 --> 01:53:44,572
Speaker 2: and then your partner will go, oh, I guess it's

2478
01:53:44,612 --> 01:53:45,173
Speaker 2: going to be all right.

2479
01:53:45,253 --> 01:53:47,013
Speaker 3: Then it's a lot of pressure. That's a lot of

2480
01:53:47,013 --> 01:53:50,732
Speaker 3: pressure on Tyler. Scotty, how you doing good?

2481
01:53:50,812 --> 01:53:50,972
Speaker 10: Good?

2482
01:53:51,213 --> 01:53:55,092
Speaker 7: This brings back like one of your book club groups.

2483
01:53:55,293 --> 01:53:57,093
Speaker 7: We've got a bunch of boys who've been operating for

2484
01:53:57,133 --> 01:54:01,532
Speaker 7: about sixteen years now doing boys travels. Yeah, and it

2485
01:54:01,652 --> 01:54:04,213
Speaker 7: comes off one of the greatest stories amongst our group people.

2486
01:54:04,253 --> 01:54:06,892
Speaker 7: We've got about six we always talk about. One dates

2487
01:54:06,933 --> 01:54:09,133
Speaker 7: back to starting about two two thousand and eight when

2488
01:54:09,173 --> 01:54:12,012
Speaker 7: they announced the New Zealand had the Rugby World Cup.

2489
01:54:12,812 --> 01:54:15,133
Speaker 7: So the boys sat around and said, right, let's start

2490
01:54:15,173 --> 01:54:18,133
Speaker 7: putting in six seven hundred bucks a year. We'll do

2491
01:54:18,213 --> 01:54:20,572
Speaker 7: a voyas tour when the Rugby World Cups comes around.

2492
01:54:21,293 --> 01:54:23,732
Speaker 7: So yeah, allocate the games. We decided to go. We're

2493
01:54:23,772 --> 01:54:26,333
Speaker 7: up in Auckland. We decided to go to the furthest

2494
01:54:26,372 --> 01:54:28,652
Speaker 7: game away from Auckland that we could end of the cargo,

2495
01:54:28,973 --> 01:54:31,412
Speaker 7: and we worked out a road trip after that eleven

2496
01:54:31,492 --> 01:54:34,093
Speaker 7: days so fro about eighteen months. Once we had the

2497
01:54:34,173 --> 01:54:37,973
Speaker 7: venue sorted out, we planned. We planned whitewater rafting, we

2498
01:54:38,093 --> 01:54:41,093
Speaker 7: planned jet boating, we planned skiing, we planned trips out

2499
01:54:41,133 --> 01:54:47,772
Speaker 7: of TN. Craft beer visits, country pub visits, bit a hunting,

2500
01:54:47,812 --> 01:54:49,172
Speaker 7: bit of quad biking. Everything.

2501
01:54:49,733 --> 01:54:51,852
Speaker 2: Now I beat Scotty that you had a fantastic time.

2502
01:54:52,413 --> 01:54:54,653
Speaker 2: But when you got back, I bet you were pleased

2503
01:54:54,653 --> 01:54:55,373
Speaker 2: to see your partner.

2504
01:54:56,893 --> 01:54:57,533
Speaker 7: I can't remember.

2505
01:54:58,973 --> 01:55:01,693
Speaker 3: I feel like you're about to get to the punchline

2506
01:55:01,733 --> 01:55:02,213
Speaker 3: of your story.

2507
01:55:02,373 --> 01:55:04,693
Speaker 7: I came off, We're getting there, We're getting there. So

2508
01:55:04,893 --> 01:55:08,092
Speaker 7: three weeks out, three weeks out, one of the wives,

2509
01:55:08,333 --> 01:55:12,933
Speaker 7: who is good mates with my wife, says, do you

2510
01:55:12,973 --> 01:55:14,772
Speaker 7: know what the boys are doing on their road trip,

2511
01:55:15,293 --> 01:55:18,973
Speaker 7: and my wife says, yep. And the other wife says, no, no, no,

2512
01:55:19,293 --> 01:55:21,733
Speaker 7: do you know what they're really doing on the boy's trip?

2513
01:55:22,293 --> 01:55:25,133
Speaker 7: And my wife says, yep. She said no, no, no, no,

2514
01:55:25,213 --> 01:55:27,693
Speaker 7: no no. Do you really know what they're really really doing?

2515
01:55:27,853 --> 01:55:31,573
Speaker 7: And my wife says, I've heard nothing but planning for

2516
01:55:31,653 --> 01:55:34,533
Speaker 7: this bloody trip for the last three years. Everything they're

2517
01:55:34,573 --> 01:55:37,293
Speaker 7: doing down to the nearest minute. And the other wife says,

2518
01:55:37,453 --> 01:55:40,533
Speaker 7: they're going jet boating, they're going skiing, they're going paragliding,

2519
01:55:40,573 --> 01:55:43,213
Speaker 7: they're going hunting, they're going to publish it. And my

2520
01:55:43,373 --> 01:55:46,413
Speaker 7: wife says, you're I know all of that, and she says,

2521
01:55:46,973 --> 01:55:50,133
Speaker 7: did it to My husband only told me about the

2522
01:55:50,213 --> 01:55:51,812
Speaker 7: three weeks. I just thought they're going down to watch

2523
01:55:51,853 --> 01:55:57,772
Speaker 7: two games of rugby. Fast forward, the trip goes off

2524
01:55:57,812 --> 01:56:01,253
Speaker 7: without her. There was a great boys tour, boys having

2525
01:56:01,333 --> 01:56:04,533
Speaker 7: fun with their mates, mental health or good YEA four

2526
01:56:04,573 --> 01:56:08,653
Speaker 7: weeks later, the buddy's wife goes to him into a

2527
01:56:08,693 --> 01:56:13,333
Speaker 7: cruise exhibition in the city and he says, oh, yeah, okay,

2528
01:56:13,453 --> 01:56:15,373
Speaker 7: that sounds good. I'm going to go for a bike ride,

2529
01:56:15,453 --> 01:56:19,333
Speaker 7: so we'll catch up later on. She comes back that afternoon.

2530
01:56:19,893 --> 01:56:23,453
Speaker 7: She says, he said, hell was the exhibition the ships

2531
01:56:23,493 --> 01:56:27,213
Speaker 7: of the Cruise X though she says absolutely fantastic. I

2532
01:56:27,333 --> 01:56:29,733
Speaker 7: booked a cruise for three weeks around the Mediterranean.

2533
01:56:32,573 --> 01:56:34,373
Speaker 3: That's good, that's that's strong, healthy.

2534
01:56:34,533 --> 01:56:38,173
Speaker 2: But the deeper part of that story is and well,

2535
01:56:38,453 --> 01:56:40,852
Speaker 2: the vice there is b if you're going to go

2536
01:56:40,893 --> 01:56:43,373
Speaker 2: on a trip, if you all the information is out

2537
01:56:43,413 --> 01:56:45,772
Speaker 2: there and you're very careful because I mean, I've been

2538
01:56:45,853 --> 01:56:48,772
Speaker 2: involved in the situation before where you go you don't

2539
01:56:48,772 --> 01:56:51,653
Speaker 2: want to give the full trip because you don't want

2540
01:56:51,693 --> 01:56:53,133
Speaker 2: to sound it too fun, and you can actually get

2541
01:56:53,133 --> 01:56:54,733
Speaker 2: into this thing when because a lot of my trips,

2542
01:56:54,772 --> 01:56:57,573
Speaker 2: as I said before, a kind of work trips, kind

2543
01:56:57,573 --> 01:57:01,573
Speaker 2: of boys trips again of mixed and mixed together, and

2544
01:57:02,173 --> 01:57:04,333
Speaker 2: you can get into the state where you're pretending that

2545
01:57:04,493 --> 01:57:07,653
Speaker 2: it's worked so hard that and I've met up with

2546
01:57:07,733 --> 01:57:09,133
Speaker 2: my mates at the before we go, and we've been

2547
01:57:09,173 --> 01:57:11,133
Speaker 2: pretending so hard to have partners that this is work

2548
01:57:11,173 --> 01:57:12,772
Speaker 2: and we don't really want to go. We've been selling

2549
01:57:12,853 --> 01:57:14,973
Speaker 2: that story so hard at home that we've arrived at

2550
01:57:14,973 --> 01:57:16,493
Speaker 2: the airport and going, oh God, this trip and then

2551
01:57:16,493 --> 01:57:17,533
Speaker 2: one I'm go, go this is awesome.

2552
01:57:17,573 --> 01:57:18,972
Speaker 3: You go, oh, that's right, it's awesome.

2553
01:57:19,013 --> 01:57:21,293
Speaker 2: I've been selling that. I've been selling that this is

2554
01:57:21,373 --> 01:57:25,093
Speaker 2: a terrible time and I really want to stay with you.

2555
01:57:25,772 --> 01:57:27,453
Speaker 2: I have to do this, and I started believing it.

2556
01:57:28,213 --> 01:57:29,093
Speaker 3: Crystal, how are you?

2557
01:57:30,693 --> 01:57:30,973
Speaker 14: Thank you?

2558
01:57:31,453 --> 01:57:32,213
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts?

2559
01:57:33,772 --> 01:57:35,693
Speaker 30: I was just really got that saying that you were

2560
01:57:36,173 --> 01:57:39,772
Speaker 30: you were talking about if you love something, you let

2561
01:57:39,812 --> 01:57:41,933
Speaker 30: it go and if it's it will come back, and

2562
01:57:42,013 --> 01:57:43,852
Speaker 30: if it's not, it will never come back.

2563
01:57:44,333 --> 01:57:46,293
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what it is.

2564
01:57:46,653 --> 01:57:48,933
Speaker 2: So if you love someone, if you love someone, you

2565
01:57:49,013 --> 01:57:50,293
Speaker 2: let them go on a boy's trip, and if they

2566
01:57:50,373 --> 01:57:52,133
Speaker 2: never come back from the boy's trip, it was never

2567
01:57:52,253 --> 01:57:53,772
Speaker 2: meant it was.

2568
01:57:53,933 --> 01:57:55,733
Speaker 3: It was never a real thing. It was never love.

2569
01:57:55,933 --> 01:58:00,493
Speaker 3: Insightful Crystal, you must have had some good girls trips.

2570
01:58:03,013 --> 01:58:04,852
Speaker 26: Oh no, I haven't had any good girls trips.

2571
01:58:04,893 --> 01:58:08,333
Speaker 30: I've been had some good trips doing with my husband

2572
01:58:08,373 --> 01:58:11,653
Speaker 30: and when he hit cancer. So yeah, I've been a

2573
01:58:11,693 --> 01:58:14,973
Speaker 30: pretty busy among of parents and kids. So it's not

2574
01:58:15,093 --> 01:58:16,812
Speaker 30: my time to have trip dogs to do that when

2575
01:58:16,812 --> 01:58:18,453
Speaker 30: I retire, Crystal.

2576
01:58:18,573 --> 01:58:22,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure you do. Morris, how you doing?

2577
01:58:23,293 --> 01:58:27,253
Speaker 34: Yeah, I'm good. Things so good. So I just wanted

2578
01:58:27,333 --> 01:58:30,053
Speaker 34: to I had been hearing quite a bit that's you

2579
01:58:30,133 --> 01:58:33,013
Speaker 34: know what's been said, and it's all brilliant. It's all

2580
01:58:33,053 --> 01:58:38,333
Speaker 34: about refreshing your relationship and you know, making that stronger

2581
01:58:38,573 --> 01:58:42,613
Speaker 34: by having the freedom to do stuff and trust is

2582
01:58:42,653 --> 01:58:47,972
Speaker 34: a big deal in any relationship. I met another guy

2583
01:58:48,213 --> 01:58:54,093
Speaker 34: run a breakfast men's breakfast and we have up to

2584
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Speaker 34: sixty men come along and we have speechs who are

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Speaker 34: experts in their areas such as mental health, men's men's

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01:59:05,093 --> 01:59:09,893
Speaker 34: physical health, like all the examinations that they should have, prostrate,

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Speaker 34: heart or all of that very current things that you know,

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Speaker 34: they some of these topics are in the news, so

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Speaker 34: you know, we line up someone to talk about it.

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Speaker 34: In fact, in a few weekends time, we're going up

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Speaker 34: to Lake or sorry, down to Lake Coleridge and we've

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Speaker 34: got about forty five men that are coming and once

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Speaker 34: again we'll be talking about current topics. And you know,

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Speaker 34: these guys and myself, you know, we get so much

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Speaker 34: out of just being able to sit down, face to

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01:59:52,013 --> 01:59:54,973
Speaker 34: face talk to guys about some of the things that

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Speaker 34: that we face because you know, we all get older

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Speaker 34: and all of our our bodies start to you know,

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Speaker 34: need particular attention to keep it functioning and all the

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Speaker 34: rest of it, so to be open and honest about

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Speaker 34: what we're going through and what sparked all of this

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Speaker 34: sort of stuff. As I had a brother in law

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Speaker 34: who didn't mention anything that was happening in his body.

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Speaker 34: When they sort of found out it was too late.

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Speaker 34: He had bell cancer and it was far too late here.

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Speaker 34: They could do nothing for him and he passed away

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Speaker 34: way before his time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean they're critical the men's friend groups or

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Speaker 3: the men shed which I've seen as a big thing

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Speaker 3: up here in Auckland. They are critical for fellers as

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Speaker 3: they get a bit older. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: And also you know we're talking about a boy's trips,

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Speaker 2: but it's also a boy's lunch or a girl's lunch

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Speaker 2: or a boy's breakfast. Doesn't have to be three days

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Speaker 2: in a golf trip and an absolute rip up. It

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Speaker 2: might just be getting together and having a chat.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: It is seven minutes to four, the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

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Speaker 24: The government's taking advice on Wellington City Council. What does

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Speaker 24: the council have to do to avoid intervention?

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Speaker 3: What's going on with Health.

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Speaker 24: class cabin. We'll get a sneak peek behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: with One New Zealand next on News.

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Speaker 2: Talks at B four to four well I promised to

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Speaker 2: share a story of something shocking that happened in Paris.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have time, so that'll be on the Matt

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Speaker 2: Heath and Tyler Afternoons pod on iHeartRadio.

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