1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:13,253 --> 00:00:15,813 Speaker 2: Aaron on the email this morning, Good morning Jack, heere, 4 00:00:15,893 --> 00:00:19,093 Speaker 2: I too felt sorry for the astronauts stranded up there 5 00:00:19,173 --> 00:00:22,693 Speaker 2: eight months as a hell of an extension, But just 6 00:00:22,773 --> 00:00:25,733 Speaker 2: think of the overtime pay and hey, not much to 7 00:00:25,733 --> 00:00:27,613 Speaker 2: spend your money on while they're up there. Yeah, that's 8 00:00:27,613 --> 00:00:30,173 Speaker 2: a good point. I did actually look it up. I 9 00:00:30,173 --> 00:00:34,773 Speaker 2: think this salary astronauts a salary, so I'm not sure 10 00:00:34,853 --> 00:00:39,013 Speaker 2: they necessarily get overtime, but they probably can reasonably expect 11 00:00:39,013 --> 00:00:41,733 Speaker 2: a few days off once they do hit Terra Firma 12 00:00:41,813 --> 00:00:44,613 Speaker 2: next year. The astronauts doing for food. No one pacts 13 00:00:44,693 --> 00:00:47,333 Speaker 2: enough food for eight months of going away for a week, 14 00:00:47,493 --> 00:00:49,573 Speaker 2: says Donna. I think the good news, Donnor, is that 15 00:00:49,573 --> 00:00:53,333 Speaker 2: the International Space Station does have plenty of reserves. There 16 00:00:53,333 --> 00:00:55,773 Speaker 2: are some other astronauts who are currently at the space station, 17 00:00:55,893 --> 00:00:57,693 Speaker 2: so they are kind of all in it together. But 18 00:00:57,773 --> 00:01:00,853 Speaker 2: as well as that, they flew up a special flight 19 00:01:00,893 --> 00:01:05,213 Speaker 2: to go and restock the space station, I think, rather 20 00:01:05,293 --> 00:01:07,093 Speaker 2: than food being a concern, because you know, they have 21 00:01:07,093 --> 00:01:09,253 Speaker 2: all their food and little packets and gels and that 22 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:12,293 Speaker 2: kind of thing, the biggest concern was that they didn't 23 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:15,253 Speaker 2: have any fresh clothes and so they were using these 24 00:01:15,293 --> 00:01:19,893 Speaker 2: kind of recycled clothes and that wasn't terribly dignifying, So 25 00:01:20,013 --> 00:01:21,933 Speaker 2: that was that was the initial concern. But for the 26 00:01:21,973 --> 00:01:23,533 Speaker 2: time being, they've got enough to get them through to 27 00:01:23,613 --> 00:01:25,533 Speaker 2: next February at the very least. The question is, though, 28 00:01:25,533 --> 00:01:28,333 Speaker 2: what will happen if that gets pushed back. Ninety two 29 00:01:28,333 --> 00:01:29,653 Speaker 2: and eighty two is the text number if you want 30 00:01:29,653 --> 00:01:32,173 Speaker 2: to get in touch. Kevin Millon is with us this morning. Kielder. 31 00:01:32,253 --> 00:01:35,093 Speaker 3: Kevin, I have funny Jack. You know, I've often thought 32 00:01:35,093 --> 00:01:38,653 Speaker 3: about you. You've achieved so much in your career or readio. 33 00:01:38,693 --> 00:01:40,733 Speaker 3: I've often thought to myself, what are the hell is 34 00:01:40,893 --> 00:01:43,733 Speaker 3: Jack going to do? And now you reveal this morning 35 00:01:44,053 --> 00:01:46,293 Speaker 3: that you look up the internet to find out how 36 00:01:46,373 --> 00:01:48,253 Speaker 3: much astronauts salary is. 37 00:01:48,653 --> 00:01:50,973 Speaker 2: Are you not interested by that? I think it's fascinating. 38 00:01:51,773 --> 00:01:54,493 Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, they get they're they're in a 39 00:01:54,693 --> 00:01:56,613 Speaker 2: I mean, because of the US dollar versus the New 40 00:01:56,693 --> 00:01:58,733 Speaker 2: Zealand dollars quite strong right now. I think it's like 41 00:01:58,933 --> 00:02:01,053 Speaker 2: four hundred thousand New Zealand dollars, so it's a lot 42 00:02:01,053 --> 00:02:04,213 Speaker 2: of money. But I think like in US terms, it's 43 00:02:04,293 --> 00:02:06,493 Speaker 2: you know, like maybe two hundred and twenty or something, 44 00:02:06,533 --> 00:02:09,693 Speaker 2: which again is a lot of money, but a lot 45 00:02:09,693 --> 00:02:11,973 Speaker 2: of money to be spent like eight months away from 46 00:02:12,013 --> 00:02:18,333 Speaker 2: home in a weightless environment, eating only gels and dust, 47 00:02:18,453 --> 00:02:18,773 Speaker 2: don't you. 48 00:02:18,773 --> 00:02:23,773 Speaker 3: Think, Yeah, yeah, where did you actually look up astronauts salary? 49 00:02:23,893 --> 00:02:27,813 Speaker 2: Well, this is my favorite social media platform, is this 50 00:02:27,853 --> 00:02:30,413 Speaker 2: one called Reddit, where they have lots of you have 51 00:02:30,493 --> 00:02:33,413 Speaker 2: lots of different communities. So I follow the space community 52 00:02:33,453 --> 00:02:36,293 Speaker 2: and someone else had said how much do they get paid? 53 00:02:36,413 --> 00:02:40,253 Speaker 2: And then one of the keen space enthusiasts who's part 54 00:02:40,253 --> 00:02:42,573 Speaker 2: of that community put up a link so that you 55 00:02:42,613 --> 00:02:45,133 Speaker 2: can Because their federal employees in America, all of the 56 00:02:45,173 --> 00:02:48,293 Speaker 2: salaries are public, and because the astronauts, to be an astronaut, 57 00:02:48,333 --> 00:02:52,093 Speaker 2: you have to be a certain tier of employee, there's 58 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:54,973 Speaker 2: a salary band, quite a refined salary band that all 59 00:02:54,973 --> 00:02:57,813 Speaker 2: the astronauts have to have to be paid. And the 60 00:02:57,853 --> 00:03:00,133 Speaker 2: thing is, of course that you can't like, I'm not 61 00:03:00,173 --> 00:03:02,853 Speaker 2: going to be going to space for NASA anytime soon 62 00:03:02,893 --> 00:03:06,773 Speaker 2: with my qualifications, as much as I enjoyed studying about 63 00:03:06,773 --> 00:03:10,413 Speaker 2: three PhDs short for the time being, So anyway, it'd 64 00:03:10,413 --> 00:03:13,253 Speaker 2: be very interesting. So yeah, just after ten o'clock New 65 00:03:13,333 --> 00:03:16,413 Speaker 2: Zealand time that the capsule, the Boeing caps are supposed 66 00:03:16,413 --> 00:03:19,653 Speaker 2: to start coming down, and it should land sometime this afternoon. 67 00:03:19,893 --> 00:03:22,373 Speaker 2: But if something goes wrong with that, it'll be really interesting. 68 00:03:22,413 --> 00:03:26,133 Speaker 2: Because Boeing insisted it was safe for the astronauts to 69 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:29,053 Speaker 2: come back on it, and NASA overruled them and said, 70 00:03:29,093 --> 00:03:31,333 Speaker 2: you know what, let's not take the risk. We'll keep 71 00:03:31,333 --> 00:03:34,213 Speaker 2: them up there and we will send a SpaceX shuttle 72 00:03:34,573 --> 00:03:37,533 Speaker 2: up to get them in February of next year. So yeah, 73 00:03:37,573 --> 00:03:39,813 Speaker 2: keep your eyes on that when it comes down this afternoon. 74 00:03:39,853 --> 00:03:42,173 Speaker 2: But Kevin, you've had your attention elsewhere this week. You 75 00:03:42,213 --> 00:03:45,333 Speaker 2: want to see more protection against online scammers. 76 00:03:45,733 --> 00:03:48,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that. Consuming New Zealand, who I'm a 77 00:03:48,053 --> 00:03:50,853 Speaker 3: big fan of, is calling on New Zealands to help 78 00:03:50,893 --> 00:03:55,053 Speaker 3: them fund more protection against online scammers. They're looking for 79 00:03:55,333 --> 00:04:00,093 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars and four weeks. The donation campaign caught 80 00:04:00,133 --> 00:04:04,373 Speaker 3: my eye because this week, my own good self, Kevin Milne, 81 00:04:04,373 --> 00:04:08,333 Speaker 3: the consumer Champion, was nine nine on his way to 82 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:11,013 Speaker 3: being ripped off when his wife said, sure, it's not 83 00:04:11,053 --> 00:04:14,853 Speaker 3: a scam. It was just enough to slop me pushing 84 00:04:14,933 --> 00:04:17,693 Speaker 3: send to one of the biggest online scams around at 85 00:04:17,693 --> 00:04:22,893 Speaker 3: the moment, the fake vehicle license for a newle reminder scam. 86 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:26,613 Speaker 3: But by then I'd entered my credit card details, though 87 00:04:26,653 --> 00:04:29,893 Speaker 3: not fortunately the security code. I was trying to get 88 00:04:29,933 --> 00:04:33,733 Speaker 3: the security code into it, but it kept rejecting it, 89 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:36,293 Speaker 3: and that's why I raised the matter with my wife. 90 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:39,413 Speaker 3: Can you help me get the security card security code 91 00:04:39,493 --> 00:04:42,453 Speaker 3: in so to be on the safe side. Anyway, I 92 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:45,733 Speaker 3: canceled the card and it appears nothing's been taken from 93 00:04:45,733 --> 00:04:49,653 Speaker 3: my account. I realized that something quite funny about the 94 00:04:49,653 --> 00:04:52,413 Speaker 3: old fair Go guy getting sacked in. I used to 95 00:04:52,453 --> 00:04:55,253 Speaker 3: know every scam going. I think I broke the first 96 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:59,333 Speaker 3: ever story in New Zealand about Nigeria scams. What got 97 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:02,293 Speaker 3: me with this one was the scammers that were using first 98 00:05:02,373 --> 00:05:06,013 Speaker 3: of all, the New Zealand Transport Agencies logos, and they 99 00:05:06,093 --> 00:05:08,853 Speaker 3: knew all the details of my car. A bit of 100 00:05:08,853 --> 00:05:12,493 Speaker 3: a worry in itself. Nonetheless, when you look back over 101 00:05:12,533 --> 00:05:15,293 Speaker 3: what you've done, you realize you've not been careful enough. 102 00:05:15,853 --> 00:05:21,093 Speaker 3: The email addresses email at VPS stroke I f AfDB 103 00:05:21,413 --> 00:05:25,653 Speaker 3: eight five four dot dot dot dot, which was never 104 00:05:25,893 --> 00:05:27,853 Speaker 3: going to be the correct email address for the New 105 00:05:27,893 --> 00:05:32,333 Speaker 3: Zealand fans Wood Agency, but I hadn't checked that anyway, Jack, 106 00:05:32,613 --> 00:05:35,053 Speaker 3: I've now sent a donation to Consume in New Zealand 107 00:05:35,133 --> 00:05:37,813 Speaker 3: and I urged listeners to do the same. I think 108 00:05:38,053 --> 00:05:41,493 Speaker 3: something like one hundred and thirty five million dollars has 109 00:05:41,573 --> 00:05:45,133 Speaker 3: been scammed from New Zealanders this year already. Wow, I 110 00:05:45,253 --> 00:05:47,333 Speaker 3: think that. I'm not certain about that. They're just in 111 00:05:47,373 --> 00:05:49,533 Speaker 3: the back of my mind. That's the figure. Yeah, wouldn't 112 00:05:49,533 --> 00:05:53,893 Speaker 3: it be awful if the Consuming New Zealand campaign this 113 00:05:54,013 --> 00:05:56,093 Speaker 3: is a terrible Really wouldn't it be awful if the 114 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:58,413 Speaker 3: Consuming New Zealand campaign was also a scam? 115 00:05:58,493 --> 00:06:02,453 Speaker 2: Oh that's about yeah, yeah. 116 00:06:02,373 --> 00:06:05,093 Speaker 3: No, I've checked that out. It's legit and I urged 117 00:06:05,173 --> 00:06:08,453 Speaker 3: listens to send it. Then the Consuming New Zealand just 118 00:06:08,533 --> 00:06:12,053 Speaker 3: go online to Consume in New Zealand. So then you're 119 00:06:12,093 --> 00:06:16,973 Speaker 3: onto their on their page and you'll see donate click 120 00:06:17,013 --> 00:06:17,293 Speaker 3: on that. 121 00:06:17,573 --> 00:06:20,253 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very wise do you know, Kevin, I mean 122 00:06:20,293 --> 00:06:23,533 Speaker 2: this not to come across as a slight in any way. 123 00:06:24,773 --> 00:06:27,813 Speaker 2: As soon as I heard about your experience and heard 124 00:06:27,853 --> 00:06:30,773 Speaker 2: that you wanted to recommend the Consumer New Zealand campaign 125 00:06:30,813 --> 00:06:33,973 Speaker 2: I immediately went onto the Consuming New Zealand website to 126 00:06:33,973 --> 00:06:36,173 Speaker 2: make sure that it was legit, because I thought, my goodness, 127 00:06:36,173 --> 00:06:39,453 Speaker 2: the only thing worse than Kevin being scammed as if 128 00:06:39,613 --> 00:06:43,453 Speaker 2: in telling his story we end up getting twenty thousand 129 00:06:43,453 --> 00:06:45,253 Speaker 2: people scammed the same way. 130 00:06:45,333 --> 00:06:47,613 Speaker 3: Very please you have checked that for me, actually, because 131 00:06:47,653 --> 00:06:50,173 Speaker 3: I'm not a genius when it comes to that sort 132 00:06:50,213 --> 00:06:52,493 Speaker 3: of stuff. But I did check it out in myself, 133 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:57,093 Speaker 3: and in the end this was no. I think if 134 00:06:57,093 --> 00:07:00,573 Speaker 3: you just go to Consumeing New Zealand page and then 135 00:07:00,773 --> 00:07:03,533 Speaker 3: you'll see donate, So no, it's legit. 136 00:07:04,173 --> 00:07:06,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the best advice with these things 137 00:07:06,733 --> 00:07:10,373 Speaker 2: is never give across unsolicited information. So you know, a 138 00:07:10,533 --> 00:07:12,973 Speaker 2: solicitor and if you get an email saying, oh, give 139 00:07:13,053 --> 00:07:15,853 Speaker 2: us your details or anything like that, you're much better 140 00:07:15,893 --> 00:07:19,453 Speaker 2: to be skeptical and then go you independently go to 141 00:07:19,533 --> 00:07:20,373 Speaker 2: the actual source. 142 00:07:20,933 --> 00:07:21,133 Speaker 3: You know. 143 00:07:21,293 --> 00:07:24,333 Speaker 2: So, for example, you after you get that email saying, oh, 144 00:07:24,373 --> 00:07:27,533 Speaker 2: your license needs renewing or whatever, your registration needs renewing, 145 00:07:27,853 --> 00:07:29,613 Speaker 2: you can check the email address, but then you can 146 00:07:29,653 --> 00:07:33,653 Speaker 2: actually go to the NZTA website and see if your 147 00:07:33,693 --> 00:07:36,413 Speaker 2: registration needs to be renewed. And that's often a good 148 00:07:36,413 --> 00:07:40,213 Speaker 2: way to check things. Yeah, I'm glad that I'm glad 149 00:07:40,213 --> 00:07:43,733 Speaker 2: that it didn't accept your details at the very least, Kevin, 150 00:07:43,773 --> 00:07:46,173 Speaker 2: and very wise to check them with your wife on 151 00:07:46,213 --> 00:07:48,053 Speaker 2: that one. But yeah, you're not the only one, so 152 00:07:48,093 --> 00:07:51,093 Speaker 2: I hope you don't feel any degree of shame or anything, because, 153 00:07:51,133 --> 00:07:53,733 Speaker 2: as you say, so many New Zealanders are being scammed 154 00:07:53,773 --> 00:07:56,853 Speaker 2: at the moment, and these scams are getting increasingly sophisticated. 155 00:07:57,173 --> 00:07:59,093 Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two is the text number. 156 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:02,533 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 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