1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,413 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:16,453 Speaker 2: Rude Climb Past is our man in the garden. Good morning, sir, 4 00:00:17,613 --> 00:00:18,293 Speaker 2: Good morning. 5 00:00:18,853 --> 00:00:22,773 Speaker 3: I loved all the stories about the moons and space 6 00:00:22,893 --> 00:00:25,413 Speaker 3: and since it is great, yeah, cool. 7 00:00:25,613 --> 00:00:28,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as you weren't listening, we were talking before 8 00:00:29,093 --> 00:00:32,013 Speaker 2: ten o'clock about how what is it the thirteenth of 9 00:00:32,013 --> 00:00:35,333 Speaker 2: November twenty twenty six Voyager, the spacecraft will be one 10 00:00:35,653 --> 00:00:39,613 Speaker 2: light day away from the Earth. So I think I 11 00:00:39,653 --> 00:00:41,893 Speaker 2: looked up one light day in kilometers, there's something like 12 00:00:41,933 --> 00:00:43,853 Speaker 2: twenty nine billion kilometers. 13 00:00:44,533 --> 00:00:45,573 Speaker 3: It's a long way to walk. 14 00:00:45,853 --> 00:00:48,013 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's a long way to fly, as it 15 00:00:48,013 --> 00:00:50,373 Speaker 2: turns out. I mean, voids has been out there for 16 00:00:50,373 --> 00:00:54,213 Speaker 2: almost fifty years now. But there's crazy a It's yeah, 17 00:00:54,293 --> 00:00:57,293 Speaker 2: it is. It's kind of it. But yeah, I love 18 00:00:57,293 --> 00:00:59,933 Speaker 2: all that cosmological stuff. When you when you are able 19 00:00:59,973 --> 00:01:03,093 Speaker 2: to try and put the vastness of the universe or 20 00:01:03,373 --> 00:01:07,653 Speaker 2: the relative you know nothing of the Earth in the 21 00:01:07,653 --> 00:01:10,053 Speaker 2: context of the vastness of the universe, it's yeah, it 22 00:01:10,093 --> 00:01:11,093 Speaker 2: is extraordinary, isn't it? 23 00:01:11,373 --> 00:01:11,733 Speaker 1: Anyway? 24 00:01:11,773 --> 00:01:16,053 Speaker 2: Speaking of and big distances, our fifteen centimeters one hundred 25 00:01:16,093 --> 00:01:19,333 Speaker 2: and fifty mills. That is the wingspan of the moth 26 00:01:19,733 --> 00:01:21,973 Speaker 2: you're looking for at the moment. 27 00:01:23,053 --> 00:01:29,053 Speaker 3: Poor moth. We call it the poor moth, which is 28 00:01:29,093 --> 00:01:31,653 Speaker 3: the largest moth we've got in New Zealand. It is 29 00:01:31,813 --> 00:01:35,853 Speaker 3: endemic to New Zealand. That means it only occurs in 30 00:01:35,893 --> 00:01:38,933 Speaker 3: New Zealand. In fact, it only occurs in the North Island, 31 00:01:39,253 --> 00:01:43,013 Speaker 3: nowhere else, which is an interesting thing because because if 32 00:01:43,053 --> 00:01:45,813 Speaker 3: you talk to for instance, in Tireo and you're talking 33 00:01:45,813 --> 00:01:49,853 Speaker 3: about the tree for instance, in which those mores really 34 00:01:50,013 --> 00:01:52,813 Speaker 3: like to live, which is not so much the poor tree. Yes, 35 00:01:52,933 --> 00:01:55,293 Speaker 3: I know, but there's one day like even better. It's 36 00:01:55,293 --> 00:02:00,373 Speaker 3: called Marblelief. And my belief has got a wonderful Maori 37 00:02:00,493 --> 00:02:06,053 Speaker 3: name called Putta Putta Wetta, and that is to do 38 00:02:06,213 --> 00:02:10,693 Speaker 3: with the end story of this particular moth life cycle. 39 00:02:10,933 --> 00:02:12,533 Speaker 3: And we're going to be the time to talk about it. 40 00:02:12,693 --> 00:02:14,853 Speaker 3: So here's this month at the moment. This is the 41 00:02:14,893 --> 00:02:16,813 Speaker 3: time of the year. It's actually you can see it 42 00:02:16,893 --> 00:02:21,733 Speaker 3: almost every month of the year, but November December or September, 43 00:02:21,813 --> 00:02:24,853 Speaker 3: October November. So this springtime is the time when you've 44 00:02:24,853 --> 00:02:27,093 Speaker 3: seen them, if you've got them near your place in 45 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:30,493 Speaker 3: the North Island, and I remember going to Pukaha, which 46 00:02:30,573 --> 00:02:34,613 Speaker 3: is of course in the Waretta where I stayed the nights, 47 00:02:34,733 --> 00:02:38,333 Speaker 3: a couple of nights, and these things would fly, dozens 48 00:02:38,893 --> 00:02:42,573 Speaker 3: upon dozens of them all over the place, and it 49 00:02:42,773 --> 00:02:44,533 Speaker 3: was just that spectacular. 50 00:02:45,053 --> 00:02:47,613 Speaker 4: This is the time when the females lay their eggs, 51 00:02:47,853 --> 00:02:51,213 Speaker 4: those big girls, they lay their eggs like a wounded 52 00:02:51,533 --> 00:02:56,333 Speaker 4: B fifty two bomber, And honestly, in the forest they 53 00:02:56,413 --> 00:03:01,813 Speaker 4: fly around the egan here and that's eggs, five hundred 54 00:03:01,813 --> 00:03:03,733 Speaker 4: and six hundred eggs coming. 55 00:03:03,493 --> 00:03:08,533 Speaker 3: Out like that. And basically that's what happens to these 56 00:03:08,573 --> 00:03:11,213 Speaker 3: little babies that come out of the rbs. They spent 57 00:03:11,373 --> 00:03:15,413 Speaker 3: almost a year eating organic material from the forest floor. 58 00:03:15,573 --> 00:03:19,253 Speaker 3: That's the first thing that they do. And they do 59 00:03:19,373 --> 00:03:22,853 Speaker 3: that so sixty twelve months whatever, and basically they become 60 00:03:22,973 --> 00:03:25,573 Speaker 3: slightly bigger than a tiny caterpillar. They can be a 61 00:03:25,733 --> 00:03:29,413 Speaker 3: medium sized caterpillar. And once they've done that for about 62 00:03:29,613 --> 00:03:32,173 Speaker 3: six to twelve months, they climb up trees and they 63 00:03:32,253 --> 00:03:36,693 Speaker 3: start chewing the back of their favorite trees. And their 64 00:03:36,733 --> 00:03:39,373 Speaker 3: favor trees are things like what to put the weather 65 00:03:39,533 --> 00:03:42,253 Speaker 3: or marble leaf if you like, but specifically all supportingly. 66 00:03:43,253 --> 00:03:45,373 Speaker 3: And then what they do is they do something amazing. 67 00:03:45,493 --> 00:03:48,693 Speaker 3: They drill a hole into the branch of the tree, 68 00:03:49,093 --> 00:03:52,453 Speaker 3: into the trunk, and then down and that makes the 69 00:03:52,613 --> 00:03:56,773 Speaker 3: shape of a seven up slightly slightly up and then 70 00:03:56,853 --> 00:03:59,933 Speaker 3: down right. Those tunnels, by the way, will be at 71 00:04:00,013 --> 00:04:05,093 Speaker 3: least six inches long and three quarters of an inch wide. 72 00:04:05,893 --> 00:04:10,253 Speaker 3: And they are also making outside, on the outside a 73 00:04:10,453 --> 00:04:14,213 Speaker 3: patch where they eat the back of that tree, and 74 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:16,653 Speaker 3: they put silk over the top. Right, got all that, 75 00:04:17,133 --> 00:04:23,533 Speaker 3: So seven years later, the caterpillar comes out as a 76 00:04:23,573 --> 00:04:27,173 Speaker 3: chrystalis It flies out as a big, big, really math 77 00:04:27,253 --> 00:04:30,613 Speaker 3: if you like, and the whole thing starts all over again. 78 00:04:31,253 --> 00:04:33,773 Speaker 3: And this is the point. If you're talking about put 79 00:04:33,933 --> 00:04:36,253 Speaker 3: put the weather as a marble leaf, as a really 80 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:42,933 Speaker 3: good tree for this particular creature, then you'll take that name. 81 00:04:43,253 --> 00:04:47,413 Speaker 3: Put the weather, which belongs the men from which many 82 00:04:47,613 --> 00:04:51,693 Speaker 3: weather arise. And what you find is that once these 83 00:04:51,893 --> 00:04:57,173 Speaker 3: caterpillars have bugged off out of their seven shaped home, 84 00:04:57,333 --> 00:05:01,733 Speaker 3: if you like, tree weather will go into those trees 85 00:05:01,973 --> 00:05:05,053 Speaker 3: and use those as secondhand dwellings. 86 00:05:05,613 --> 00:05:09,813 Speaker 2: Wow ah, it's amazing how the whole system builds on 87 00:05:09,893 --> 00:05:10,613 Speaker 2: each other, you know. 88 00:05:11,373 --> 00:05:12,653 Speaker 3: And they all work together. 89 00:05:12,933 --> 00:05:14,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 90 00:05:15,053 --> 00:05:20,933 Speaker 3: So when you chance tree, yes it does d amateur tree, 91 00:05:21,013 --> 00:05:24,293 Speaker 3: but it usually restores. The tree restores itself. If you've 92 00:05:24,293 --> 00:05:27,053 Speaker 3: got a very thin a thin tree, sometimes you can 93 00:05:27,133 --> 00:05:30,693 Speaker 3: get ring barking and that could cause all sorts of 94 00:05:30,733 --> 00:05:33,613 Speaker 3: troubles to the tree. But here comes a thing. So 95 00:05:33,773 --> 00:05:35,933 Speaker 3: when I came to the South Island and I talked 96 00:05:35,933 --> 00:05:38,453 Speaker 3: to the guys that here at the night, was saying 97 00:05:38,893 --> 00:05:41,733 Speaker 3: what about to put the weather and they said, oh 98 00:05:41,813 --> 00:05:45,173 Speaker 3: what they have no idea what that means because the 99 00:05:45,253 --> 00:05:48,333 Speaker 3: thing doesn't occur in the South Island and ohole story 100 00:05:48,493 --> 00:05:50,133 Speaker 3: does not make sense. 101 00:05:51,653 --> 00:05:54,893 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Thank you so much, Rye, have a wonderful weekend, sir. 102 00:05:55,093 --> 00:05:56,853 Speaker 2: We will catch you again very soon. 103 00:05:57,613 --> 00:06:00,693 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 104 00:06:00,813 --> 00:06:03,613 Speaker 1: to news Talks it'd be from nine am Saturday, or 105 00:06:03,693 --> 00:06:05,573 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.