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Speaker 1: I can I believe it's December already.
Speaker 3: I know, but it's the official month where you kick
Speaker 3: everything to twenty five. Yeah, yeah, November. People would go
Speaker 3: a bit of a lazy ass, an't you, But it's December,
Speaker 3: the holy legit.
Speaker 1: Everything being punted to do next year. I think we
Speaker 1: need to start this podcast by recapping that match. We
Speaker 1: need to go over it, we need to readdress it.
Speaker 1: We lost by eight wickets in a day and a
Speaker 1: half basically, but.
Speaker 3: That was irrelevant. I think that was inevitable that was
Speaker 3: going to happen. Ever since the first England's first innings.
Speaker 3: Almost it would almost it was almost written in the
Speaker 3: stars that we're blindet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No one hundred and I think the big headline
Speaker 1: that everyone's talking about is catches win matches eight drop
Speaker 1: catches in England's first innings. Here is what they sounded like.
Speaker 3: Smith into Brook slashed drop dropped at gully and it's
Speaker 3: glean Phillips. Is this drop gonna cost them? And comes
Speaker 3: Smith full slip and go again. Oh dropped at first
Speaker 3: slip by Latham. Then comes Phillips quicker and that's in
Speaker 3: the air. Come on, is it a chance down at
Speaker 3: deep midwicket? The man in god, oh my god, Devin
Speaker 3: Conway was coming round from deep square leg and he's
Speaker 3: dropped brooke again. Then comes Smith and he leans back
Speaker 3: and lashes it. Another drop down Latham drops is another
Speaker 3: one that covers. It's his third catches dropped today. The
Speaker 3: captain he's got the drop, sees and it's edged and
Speaker 3: drop again. God to clean Phillips at gully and that
Speaker 3: was even simpler than his first catches. Drop chalk it
Speaker 3: up number seven and.
Speaker 1: Harry Brook is open laughing because this is comical.
Speaker 3: This is a clown show. Fucking hour. It was you
Speaker 3: could tell by just oh my god, not again, Oh my,
Speaker 3: not again.
Speaker 1: There's shades of the acc eleven when we dropped fifteen catches.
Speaker 3: In one match. Well some say eleven were grassed fifteen opportunities.
Speaker 3: The thing the difference with that that Jeremy Wells pointed
Speaker 3: out this morning on Haydaki was we didn't actually take
Speaker 3: any other catch. That's what made that so as such
Speaker 3: an anomaly. Yeah, we actually caught nothing at all. Eventually,
Speaker 3: the black Caps did take their catches, so yeah, they
Speaker 3: took a few. Yeah, they took a few, whereas we didn't.
Speaker 3: No one caught anything.
Speaker 1: We didn't take any There was a guy in the
Speaker 1: NBA the other day who scored about thirty points. He
Speaker 1: didn't miss a single shot, and didn't miss a free throw,
Speaker 1: didn't miss a shot from the field, He didn't turn
Speaker 1: the ball over once. It was like an NBA record,
Speaker 1: never been done before. That's like a clean sheet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it was a triple double as well. So
Speaker 1: triple double, no turnovers, no missshots. Oh man, the perfect game.
Speaker 1: You retire, Yeah, you would. That's basically what we did.
Speaker 1: This was a little bit different because there were a
Speaker 1: few drops. Man, at one point England brings my heart
Speaker 1: to pour back over the numbers, but we will. At
Speaker 1: one point England was seventy for four.
Speaker 3: And that was when he was I think Brook was dropped.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think around then Mitchell sorry Phillips, the first
Speaker 1: drop of the eight and that English first and nings
Speaker 1: Brook dropped five times. First of those, he was on
Speaker 1: about thirty runs. So in theory because he went on
Speaker 1: to score one hundred and seventy that's one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty prevented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in theory, and I mean I would be no
Speaker 3: more upset. I heard that Matt Henry went up and
Speaker 3: apologized to Oli Pope at the end of the day's play.
Speaker 3: At the end of day two, was it because he
Speaker 3: was the only he got out to that stunning catch
Speaker 3: by Glenn Phillips at Gully And he was like, you
Speaker 3: are the unluckiest guy on this field because that was
Speaker 3: one of the catches of the century and everyone else
Speaker 3: dropped them and the only one's laced it and got out.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a great point. He rose Latham and Phillips
Speaker 1: account of the six of our eight drop catches. And
Speaker 1: I saw someone on Instagram, probably on TikTok, but then
Speaker 1: found this way to my Instagram reels because I'm thirty
Speaker 1: three years old, saying that Glenn Phillips is not a
Speaker 1: great taker of catches, but a taker of great catches.
Speaker 1: So he drops the easy one and then he will
Speaker 1: take the absolute screamer.
Speaker 3: Because he's taken some of the greatest catches. You'll see
Speaker 3: it there in that gully position like that, that kind
Speaker 3: of there's a very familiar kind of dive he does
Speaker 3: where he displays all limbs, yeah, into the star fashion
Speaker 3: and then somehow sticks into that right hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's Someone asked the most outrageous question at the press
Speaker 3: conference of Lathan. Yeah, and you know what this was about.
Speaker 3: They said, do you think it has anything to do
Speaker 3: with the sightlines and catching it a hagar waizing to
Speaker 3: do with the botanical gardens?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: But you can't see the botanical gardens field?
Speaker 3: But is it the pollen? Is the pollen in your
Speaker 3: eyes making you sneeze? Well?
Speaker 1: Were they spending too much of their time before the
Speaker 1: game down there at the.
Speaker 3: Botanical gard doesn't make sense that whoever asked that question,
Speaker 3: who dno brought that up. It's like you're you're really
Speaker 3: scraping the bottom of the barrel of excuses apart from
Speaker 3: just dumb luck that you just grasped all those chances.
Speaker 1: I reckon it was a journo who doesn't follow cricket
Speaker 1: in anyway, and they was like, I don't know the
Speaker 1: fuck asking about there? What's the sport again like they
Speaker 1: dropped heap to catches.
Speaker 3: Maybe they lost it in the flowers.
Speaker 1: Was it the bowtans? Perhaps?
Speaker 3: So you can't see it if you stand in the
Speaker 3: middle of hegy oval as the crow flies. The gardens
Speaker 3: are what maybe a kilometer away, five hundred meters away.
Speaker 1: You can't see them from the top of the embankment. No,
Speaker 1: you couldn't see them from the commentary booth.
Speaker 3: I would blame all the Hawaiian shirts were there that
Speaker 3: were there worn by middle aged men on dress up day.
Speaker 1: Potentially, yes, if you weren't listening to the commentary. We
Speaker 1: sit in over under market at six point five boomers
Speaker 1: and Hawaiian shirts smashed within a couple of hours. That
Speaker 1: was absolutely obliterated.
Speaker 3: Well, that's stress, that's stress ups, that is boom for boomers.
Speaker 3: It's like put a hard case Hawaiian shirt on and
Speaker 3: go to the cricket.
Speaker 1: He's a laughing look at his Dave, our Dave again
Speaker 1: he's got the buddy. Oh god, you know it's a
Speaker 1: laugh and Dave busts out the bloody Hawaiian shirt in
Speaker 1: christ shirts. For God's sake, you know, he wears that
Speaker 1: thing in Fiji once a year.
Speaker 3: Totally. There was some good There was some good comedy
Speaker 3: betting going on. Actually, we got people asking how many
Speaker 3: helicopter drops from the Adventure Mountain Bike Park would come
Speaker 3: in because the hospitals right next to Hegley Oval and
Speaker 3: the landing pad is pretty much on Hegley Oval, so
Speaker 3: you often hear that the risky helicopter come in. And
Speaker 3: on day two I think we had four and it
Speaker 3: was on a Friday.
Speaker 1: And then on day three we set the over under
Speaker 1: at four and a half and actually think it came under.
Speaker 3: Yes it did.
Speaker 1: I think we had four.
Speaker 3: No, No, we had three one one very last minute,
Speaker 3: but we since we found later the Mountain Bike Park
Speaker 3: closed at five. Yeah, game wing onto six thirty, so
Speaker 3: we I don't know if we we didn't go in
Speaker 3: with the best amount of intel on that one.
Speaker 1: No, but we did have a couple of people who
Speaker 1: were willing to sacrifice themselves in order to try and
Speaker 1: make that bet come right. Because we have people call
Speaker 1: again saying, look, I'm going for a dive just off
Speaker 1: the coast of cal Coda there and I'll probably be
Speaker 1: ready for a pack up in about half an hour.
Speaker 1: So if you could get the chopper up now, and
Speaker 1: we were saying, yeah, just if you find him in
Speaker 1: an airs dround, just make sure your stuff whatever he's
Speaker 1: caught into the life jacket, into the you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and then bring that all back with you. But unfortunately
Speaker 1: that comedy bit didn't come in either. One of the
Speaker 1: other questions that was asked of Tom Latham was is
Speaker 1: it something that you need to work on the catching?
Speaker 1: And he said, I don't think it's something that requires
Speaker 1: any extra work. Do you agree with Tom Latham supplementary
Speaker 1: question if it does require work, what work could they
Speaker 1: possibly do in the next four days?
Speaker 3: Well, there's rumors that the pantsman Joel Harrison as their
Speaker 3: fielding coach because he was responsible for half hour drop
Speaker 3: catches in the ACC. I don't think you can never
Speaker 3: do too much work. No, in terms of catching practice.
Speaker 1: But I don't think there's a drill they're going to
Speaker 1: do between now and the next game that's going to
Speaker 1: no sort it.
Speaker 3: No, But I mean we're not this is we're not
Speaker 3: bad fielders like that. All the people that drop there
Speaker 3: are usually very capable. Latham and Phillips in particular, Yes,
Speaker 3: Conway is usually a safe pair of hands, and he
Speaker 3: grasped one.
Speaker 1: So even Blundelle was having a mirror behind the stuff.
Speaker 3: Yes, he missed that one that caught behind on the
Speaker 3: leg side. It just pinged off his fingers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you put it down to?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I know they'll be asking the same question.
Speaker 3: And I read and Dylan Cleaver's bounce.
Speaker 1: He's just like, I think, it's just.
Speaker 3: Just one of those things. It's just dumb luck, it's
Speaker 3: just unlucky. But the unlucky streak that just compiled eight
Speaker 3: in a row as opposed to any sort of skill issue.
Speaker 1: Well, I think after so Latham dropped I think three, yes,
Speaker 1: which means Phillips must have dropped three as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then Conway and Blundell.
Speaker 1: Once you've dropped two, you're never catching that third one.
Speaker 1: I reckon, I reckon, you're just done by that stage.
Speaker 1: I reckon. And I think the only one that you know,
Speaker 1: Phillips took that screamer, but that was just like reflex.
Speaker 1: That was like hitting his heading your knee with the hammer.
Speaker 3: Well, Lathan also he took a catch in the end
Speaker 3: at second slip. He actually yeah, he took one, and
Speaker 3: they bet they replayed it over and over again to
Speaker 3: see where there has touched the grass. Oh, yes, so
Speaker 3: he did, mate, he did right, he did right. The
Speaker 3: ship a little bit ish, but I don't know. They
Speaker 3: just just one of those things that it was tough
Speaker 3: to watch as a banned because you knew they were
Speaker 3: better than that. I guarantee any catching drills they do
Speaker 3: between now and the basin, they will catch ninety nine
Speaker 3: point nine percent of those catches easily. Yeah, a couple
Speaker 3: I think a couple blasted just over the head of
Speaker 3: Darryl Mitchell and Saudi I think got one blasted through
Speaker 3: his hands as well, kind of mid short mid wicket.
Speaker 3: Just nothing went to hand.
Speaker 1: No, is it another side effect of Bear's ball, because
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where they're slashing at everything.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be more catch opportunities, more half catch opportunities,
Speaker 1: more drop catches, and then you're gonna drop lip in
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you bang on because they do do that.
Speaker 3: They go hard at the ball and it flies. I've
Speaker 3: ever seen so many boundaries basically over the keeper's head. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And it's funny because the English have an interesting field
Speaker 3: technic where they have a backstop and he took a catch.
Speaker 3: He got Daryl Mitchell out in the first innings where
Speaker 3: Daryl Mitchell went for the pull shot and descuided it
Speaker 3: straight up in the ear. They had a guy behind
Speaker 3: the keeper who took the catch. They had a backstop, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they had a backstop, but they're in a catching position
Speaker 3: because you can't have where he was slightly on the
Speaker 3: on the off side, because you can't have more than
Speaker 3: three behind square on the leg. So it's quite clear
Speaker 3: as a rule. Yeah, as a rule, that's after bodyline.
Speaker 3: So after bodyline. They brought that in because all they
Speaker 3: did was stack at left side, bold the arm and
Speaker 3: just wait for someone to So it's quite a clear
Speaker 3: way of doing it because it's a backstop. But it's
Speaker 3: still there on the hook shot for the top edge. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's still in a catching position. So you bears, Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: dummy when it comes to this.
Speaker 1: Kind of that is smart and innovative. But even as
Speaker 1: a grown man, you couldn't. You couldn't stand at backstop
Speaker 1: like directly behind the work.
Speaker 3: You have to go I'm at fly slip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, because otherwise if you keep it folly
Speaker 1: pup turns and it's all right, I get that. I'm
Speaker 1: not the usual keeper. I'm not that fucking no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not for that, it's for it's for this.
Speaker 3: I thought.
Speaker 1: Darrel Mitchell gave a good account of himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he did. I mean, like, yeah, he did.
Speaker 3: His real grafter, isn't he. There's nothing pretty about him.
Speaker 3: He just grinds it out.
Speaker 1: Workman like. The only the only bit of Fleaar is
Speaker 1: the reverse sweep, which drives boomers into conniptions.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And Mike Minaga, no, he listens. He
Speaker 3: drives him fucking crazy. He I get I get bombarded
Speaker 3: with messages every goes. What are you saying? It would
Speaker 3: just say, pot it away, Minchell. It's just it drives
Speaker 3: him insane. If you wanted to make him crazy, get
Speaker 3: a compilation of Daryl Mitchell's reverse sweeps and play it
Speaker 3: to Mike Minogue and he'll he'll flip.
Speaker 1: But how many times he got out to the reverse sweep.
Speaker 3: A few times? That's what drives him crazy.
Speaker 1: You've got to do something, though. You can't just be reactive,
Speaker 1: you know, And look, take it to the ball. He
Speaker 1: plays that shot quite well.
Speaker 3: He got it out a few times, and then it worked,
Speaker 3: but it's just when it goes wrong, people were ready
Speaker 3: with the knives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an easy one to point to if it
Speaker 1: goes wrong, but fuck when it comes off, and if
Speaker 1: you're doing it often enough, they have to put a
Speaker 1: fielder there, you know. So it's a way of you,
Speaker 1: as a better dictating the field a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when it goes bad, it looks very very bad.
Speaker 1: Renders all right, the sixy camera. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: him a lot. This is his farewell tour, not the
Speaker 1: result he's looking for. But you could tell once he
Speaker 1: went out there to beat he was just like, fuck it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 3: He always that's consistent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's what he's always done. He's like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not a great better, so I might as well
Speaker 1: go for as many six as I possibly can.
Speaker 3: He can hit the ball. He's got a good eye.
Speaker 3: Yeah so, and he can hit a big ball. Great slog.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, he is, as we said the other day, sixth
Speaker 1: in Test sixs. He is now on ninety five eight,
Speaker 1: two of them in this most recent innings. So he's
Speaker 1: got three sorry, two more games in thiry four more innings, Yes,
Speaker 1: to hit five more sixers to crack the ton. If
Speaker 1: he does that, that will vault him over Jacques Kalis
Speaker 1: who was just above him. Chris Gaale is on ninety eight,
Speaker 1: Adam Gilchrist is on one hundred, and then if South
Speaker 1: they can do one hundred, he'll be tired with Gilchrist,
Speaker 1: McCullum one oh seven, Ben Stokes one hundred and thirty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we could see evidence of that when Stokes
Speaker 3: was playing it in the weekend. He goes big so
Speaker 3: something about that the coach captain combo here. I can't
Speaker 3: see why they play basball and you've got McCullum one
Speaker 3: hundred and seven six Test sixes and your captain is
Speaker 3: the only one ahead of you one hundred and thirty one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when is that combination going to go? I reckon, we
Speaker 3: should just pump the brakes here, guys. Yeah, that's just
Speaker 3: shut up shop. A lot of carpet balls just worked
Speaker 3: the ones in two. So it's not coming out of
Speaker 3: those guys. Because people in the change room the game,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Bullshit? That would be great
Speaker 3: for Saudi. I mean he's in pretty good company. He's
Speaker 3: like he's ahead of Lara Rowitt, Sharma, Nda saywag, that's
Speaker 3: a great stat. I've said it before, get wickets hit sixes,
Speaker 3: knowing there's nothing more straight up than that.
Speaker 1: We mention wickets. He has set first in wickets taken
Speaker 1: for a black Cap overall. That's an all formats combined.
Speaker 1: I think that's by virtue of the fact that when
Speaker 1: he started playing was when T twenties started. Yes, and
Speaker 1: so he's played more games than anyone else but seven
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two. Vitries second on six ninety six.
Speaker 1: So it's going to take it's going to take quite
Speaker 1: a bit to beat that.
Speaker 3: I can't see anyone beating that.
Speaker 1: Because he came into the team at what eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen and yeah, and he played. He's played a
Speaker 3: lot of Test cricket and a lot of one days.
Speaker 3: People coming in now they'll play a lot of T twenties,
Speaker 3: but they'll also leave the national team earlier, like the
Speaker 3: likes of Ferguson and a Milm, to go and make
Speaker 3: money elsewhere. So I don't I'm going to this is
Speaker 3: a hot take that'll never be beaten. Wow, seven seventy
Speaker 3: two in terms of wickets for New Zealand as a
Speaker 3: Black Cap Yep, that won't be beaten because I don't
Speaker 3: think people will play that long.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. What about second and test
Speaker 1: workts he's on three eighty seven. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: going to hit the four hundred unfortunately.
Speaker 3: How I mean, if he did, that would be magnificent.
Speaker 3: Thirteen wickets and I mean, look we've done in one game. Ye,
Speaker 3: the way he was he did look very kind of
Speaker 3: saudy of the last eighteen months there. It was a
Speaker 3: little bit of something something for him, and he beat
Speaker 3: the outside of edge quite a lot. Yep, But I
Speaker 3: must submit old Nathan Smith looked good. There's something about him.
Speaker 1: He's got a terrible noball issue. That's excitement.
Speaker 3: That's a bit. Yeah, that's obviously him pushing too hard,
Speaker 3: and he said he was too excited, But there's something
Speaker 3: about him. He was creating chances and the amount of
Speaker 3: mishits that came off him and that drop catches that
Speaker 3: came off from unfortunate.
Speaker 1: He should have had a five f He should have
Speaker 1: had a five for his Yeah, he should be spewing
Speaker 1: for his stats there because he should have had so
Speaker 1: much more than that. And I think anyone that watched
Speaker 1: it if you just looked at the stats, he'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, when right got two wickets, I think, but
Speaker 1: when you watched him actually bowl, it was impressive.
Speaker 3: He looks the goods, yeah, and he's got a mullet
Speaker 3: and the mo it look good and he's so the
Speaker 3: next game is I mean, we'll talk about Previy the
Speaker 3: next game and later on the week, but the rumor
Speaker 3: is that it's going to be a decision between getting
Speaker 3: Satna in the team potentially a pitch that turns a
Speaker 3: bit and Wellington I did last year. Anyway, who does
Speaker 3: he come in for? And most of the punnets are
Speaker 3: saying the other comes in for Saudi or Smith? Now Smith,
Speaker 3: this is his home track. He's played a shit ton
Speaker 3: of domestic cricket on this pitch, and then in this
Speaker 3: ground does he come in for the hometown farewell tour
Speaker 3: of Saudi? So this is this is a decision for
Speaker 3: Steady to make along with Latham, and yeah, it's going
Speaker 3: to be an interesting decision. I don't see see how
Speaker 3: they not playing in Hamilton, No, but I potentially see
Speaker 3: him not playing in this one.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you couldn't not play him, surely.
Speaker 3: Well, now that'll do you know what, You're right, We're
Speaker 3: not in the Test Championship anymore, right, what are we
Speaker 3: playing for?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but after what they did the Wags, I could
Speaker 1: see it. Oh bloody drop them. Someone would get injured.
Speaker 1: There'll be fielding all day. That's what will happen.
Speaker 3: Oh no, they can't repeat the Wags situation. That should
Speaker 3: be an a manual on how not to farewell, a
Speaker 3: legend of the game.
Speaker 1: It's a national shame. Yeah, that is a national shape.
Speaker 1: I think that's what's gonna happen. Also, Will Young? Will
Speaker 1: he get back in again? We could have done with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Where do we put Will Young? We do we? I
Speaker 3: mean Blundelle's under pressure. Do we put Will Young in
Speaker 3: there and give Latham the gloves? But then it's that
Speaker 3: too much opening the betting gloves and captning. That is
Speaker 3: a ship ton on one person. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and again, if you put the gloves on someone
Speaker 1: like Phillips, now you've taken a bowling option.
Speaker 3: He doesn't want them, he doesn't want that out, he
Speaker 3: doesn't want them. Conway, he's not He is a T
Speaker 3: twenty kind of makeshift keeper. So you've got no choice.
Speaker 3: Bundel's it. You can't be coming in with a you
Speaker 3: can't give later any more responsibilities. You can't. You can't
Speaker 3: battle day keep all day. That's too much. That's back
Speaker 3: the victory era when he was captain, coach and manager.
Speaker 3: I heard he drove the bus to the airport pretty much.
Speaker 3: He was a two year period there when he was everything.
Speaker 3: He was a selected coach and player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sus the catering, Yeah, absolutely ran the court session
Speaker 1: around the court session.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's going to be interesting and at
Speaker 1: least good things for us to talk about as well.
Speaker 1: But you know, because selection for crickets never really that
Speaker 1: bigger thing. It's like, oh, they brought a spinner or
Speaker 1: they brought a past But now we've got a couple
Speaker 1: of genuine like how do we fit these dudes? They
Speaker 1: didn't put Young and could have done with a few
Speaker 1: extra runs.
Speaker 3: Controversy does Young come in for Conway?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 3: I mean he hasn't had a great hasn't it ar?
Speaker 3: I mean, but you know it's still the quality batsman
Speaker 3: so as.
Speaker 1: Wellying I know, I reckon, you go down and you
Speaker 1: have a knit and you're just like all right, fellas
Speaker 1: last last man, and yeah, it starts last minon gets
Speaker 1: the run and there's everyone going at them, and then
Speaker 1: you put your two bowlers bowling at them. Whoever can
Speaker 1: last the longest by the day before the tests, whoever
Speaker 1: gets bowled out first, that out of the game, and
Speaker 1: whoever bowld them is in okay, yep, a real gladiator
Speaker 1: sort of hunger game situation.
Speaker 3: Like that did.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break when we come
Speaker 1: back on and address the half curse issue on the weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, we've talked a lot about curses here at
Speaker 1: the a SEC, and I don't think anyone's should more
Speaker 1: commentators curses than the a SEC.
Speaker 3: That's because we've got an opinion. I you know, we
Speaker 3: like to support get behind our teams, and we're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's looking good, he's looking great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't wait for him to get to a century
Speaker 3: we got. We're just too passionate and too positive, you see.
Speaker 1: That's right. And it's got to the point sometimes where
Speaker 1: we're too scared to commentate because we've issued so many
Speaker 1: commentatus curses. But I think we've had another world first
Speaker 1: from the ACC on the weekend, and it was this
Speaker 1: half commentators curse from you?
Speaker 3: Well, there is some positive news, a positive ray of
Speaker 3: sunshine here. Most partnership runs for New Zealand being on
Speaker 3: the outside. Back to bad workes plooddw's gone for a
Speaker 3: golden duck, he's gone up to review it and they've
Speaker 3: also run him out.
Speaker 1: Can it be a commentators curse if you're only halfway
Speaker 1: through delivering it?
Speaker 3: And look, your honor, no, your honor. I will defend
Speaker 3: that to the end. I will take that to the
Speaker 3: High Court, take it to the Privy Council if I
Speaker 3: have to, because I did not deliver it in full.
Speaker 3: You can't be half pregnant, would you?
Speaker 1: If not murder? Would you accept manslaughter?
Speaker 3: Yeah, suspended sentence, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, I would accept, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm not I'm not playing murder, not murder.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So that was was it? Car Wokes? It
Speaker 1: was a second wicket. Yeah, it was back to back.
Speaker 1: It was back to back and after the first one
Speaker 1: then Blundell came out to the crease and Paul Ford
Speaker 1: showed you a graphic that said that it was the
Speaker 1: highest run partnership or something like that.
Speaker 3: Blundell and Mitchell or something.
Speaker 1: Was it Blodell and Mitchell in the stage.
Speaker 3: You know, I have got the most runs as a
Speaker 3: partnership in New Zealand history or whatever. So he passed it
Speaker 3: to me and I was halfway through reading it. That happened.
Speaker 3: Then he got behind first ball. I could see, look,
Speaker 3: you know these fingerprints at the crime scene. But there
Speaker 3: is a lot that you cncubstantial. Yeah you can't me
Speaker 3: on completely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. The rock could have held the world
Speaker 1: first day g laid in the half blood curse sounds
Speaker 1: like a Harry Potter movie. Let's move on to the
Speaker 1: rod ball. Auckland f C are now five from five.
Speaker 1: They won again on the weekend, the top of the table.
Speaker 1: They have tied the longest winning streak to start a
Speaker 1: season ever in the A League.
Speaker 3: Whether you're it's your debut season or not. Yeah, holy,
Speaker 3: that's great. And it was awful. Yeah, it was awful
Speaker 3: in Auckland. And the zoo is not the zoo. The
Speaker 3: port still looked like it was going off.
Speaker 1: Well it looked like a port because it was underwater.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And but this weekend obviously the big it's the
Speaker 3: Doobie Yes sold out. Apparently there's a second secondary ticket
Speaker 3: market going on for and it Bucks. People are charging
Speaker 3: for a ticket. Oh my god. Yeah. So back at
Speaker 3: go Hard. It's the return Doobie. That's going to be
Speaker 3: a crack out. Hopefully the weather holds out. It's huge,
Speaker 3: everything set up perfectly for it. Completely undefeated. No one
Speaker 3: wants to beat the more than Wellington. Well yeah, Wellington
Speaker 3: are on a revenge mission. Yeah, they are getting their
Speaker 3: revenge boards ready and they will show them off. So
Speaker 3: I would it would be great for the storyline for
Speaker 3: the Phoenix to take the win, to take the W
Speaker 3: and go back down to Wellington with the W. It would, yeah,
Speaker 3: it would, It would, just that would create they've got
Speaker 3: the record, although they've equal it or whatever, so that's
Speaker 3: all good. I don't mind them dropping a game, but
Speaker 3: if they're going to drop a game, drop it to
Speaker 3: the Phoenix because it'll spice things up.
Speaker 1: It's the best thing that could happen for New Zealand football,
Speaker 1: I think, is for the Phoenix to beat Auckland. So
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I am a Day one Auckland f C fan. I
Speaker 1: was that their first game. Yeah, I didn't go to
Speaker 1: Day two, but a day three. No, I've been doing
Speaker 1: any of the other days since, but you were there
Speaker 1: at the start.
Speaker 4: Mate.
Speaker 1: I'll be going to og I'll be going to day
Speaker 1: six and my my allegiances are up for sale. Whoever
Speaker 1: once that game moment, I'm a die easy fan.
Speaker 3: Sticking with the round ball.
Speaker 1: If you're in Tina, midfielder Edward or Bob collapsed on
Speaker 1: the field in a series match against Intero has been abandoned.
Speaker 1: It's a second incident this year of a player collapsing
Speaker 1: during a match in the city. Do your own research
Speaker 1: under that one. I don't know. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm saying there's a lot of dudes having heart attacks
Speaker 1: and dying on football fields globally at the moment. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to the GP and unfortunately your leg of
Speaker 1: the three way from this weekend. Why did I didn't
Speaker 1: come in?
Speaker 3: It's the golden rule. Never bet against strap On because
Speaker 3: he was second on the grid and I was like, here,
Speaker 3: he's gonna blow out. Yeah, I had I think he
Speaker 3: had pstre and Norris because I had money on McLaren.
Speaker 3: Just just McLaren winning, yes, and he just overtook on
Speaker 3: the first corner.
Speaker 1: And one androve faster than anyone else, drove correct and
Speaker 1: Liam Lawson had a bit of a shitter as well.
Speaker 3: I think he did. He have a small crash.
Speaker 1: Not a small crash, you had a full on wipeout
Speaker 1: him and another the dude whose name escapes me. It
Speaker 1: was classic Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3: Not Lance stroll him because that's the guy cut him
Speaker 3: off and qualifying and gave him the fingers.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it was that dude. I think
Speaker 1: it was another dude. But anyway, I took what I
Speaker 1: presume to be an aggressive line, didn't leave enough room
Speaker 1: for both of them to get around and he so
Speaker 1: Liam Lawson bumped the other dude off the track, but
Speaker 1: spun out himself, got back on track and still managed
Speaker 1: to finish fourteenth, which was good, but I I think
Speaker 1: so Obviously there's a big issue around These cars are
Speaker 1: going a million miles an hour. They could crash into
Speaker 1: the barrier.
Speaker 3: Why don't they.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what would boost the sports popularity as
Speaker 1: rig them up a little bit as they're a bit safer,
Speaker 1: give them a bit more runoff room and just have
Speaker 1: bumper cats basically bumper cuts, give them enough room that
Speaker 1: they're not going to hurt themselves.
Speaker 3: I know for a fact you can still get injured
Speaker 3: in a bumper car because I was in one in
Speaker 3: Munich and I'm still suffering from, you know, flash from
Speaker 3: you t boning me. I had a chicken head on
Speaker 3: immutely it was clapping and plucking at the same time.
Speaker 3: I had lederhos and I was trained dangerously steamed. But
Speaker 3: you came out of nowhere. You came out, you came
Speaker 3: out of the mist. I would love to have.
Speaker 1: Seen it from GoPro footage from both of our heads
Speaker 1: because I saw you from a mile Well, you had
Speaker 1: the fucking chicken head on, so I could see you
Speaker 1: from anywhere, and as I came around, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. I just needed the red seed a
Speaker 1: part and it did that just so hard. The chicken
Speaker 1: come off your head.
Speaker 3: The chicken came off. That's why it's all covered in black.
Speaker 3: So everyone goes, oh, it's disgusting. It's like ended up
Speaker 3: in the middle of the fucking Dodgems because I got
Speaker 3: t bone by.
Speaker 1: Your car broke down. So yeah, lem Lawson finished fourteenth
Speaker 1: at the cut GP Makaiva Gate. There's been an update, Yes,
Speaker 1: it has been an update. Still, why is it still
Speaker 1: carrying on? What's just a kind of never ending? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll explain to you. Was okay, still carrying on? So
Speaker 1: if you can't remember, they had a bit of a
Speaker 1: spat during the America's Cup, so Makiva was commentating it.
Speaker 1: You interviewed Ben Ainsley. He said, do you still feel
Speaker 1: confident that you can win?
Speaker 3: Enough?
Speaker 1: The gun for Nil down? It was misconstrued a little bit,
Speaker 1: but anyway, Ben Ainsley took that as like, oh, what
Speaker 1: you're having to digay? So he said, oh, they might.
Speaker 1: He called him a fucking waker, That's what he did,
Speaker 1: so he was. He addressed it on his wife Georgie
Speaker 1: Ainsley's podcast, This is why It's come back up again?
Speaker 1: He said, I keep my communications pack on so everyone
Speaker 1: could hear me. And then if it the spark a
Speaker 1: reaction from his crew because they were trailing for Neil,
Speaker 1: do you believe him?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 1: No, I don't believe me either. Nah.
Speaker 3: Also, would you ever do a podcast with your partner?
Speaker 1: No? Oh, I would. She wouldn't do it, but I'd
Speaker 1: do an episode, But I wouldn't do like an on
Speaker 1: go because if you're doing it every week.
Speaker 3: But then I'd just been making out lies. Like being
Speaker 3: asked me a question, I just completely make a lieut.
Speaker 3: I know, I drank that beer purely because I just
Speaker 3: needed to set an example for to show what alcohol
Speaker 3: could do to you, to many at and to Joe
Speaker 3: and our team, because obviously I'd lead from the front,
Speaker 3: and so if you see mass consumption of alcohol, that
Speaker 3: is what it does. So I was leading from the fun. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she'd be like.
Speaker 1: Bullshit, bullshit. There'd also be things like if I was
Speaker 1: doing a podcast of my message, she'd be like, did
Speaker 1: you know that west Auckland's no longer using bin tags
Speaker 1: on a Friday? And they're like, yeah, no, you didn't
Speaker 1: because you've never once bought one of the bintegs. You
Speaker 1: didn't even know what they were, but didn't even know
Speaker 1: there were bin tags and now they are.
Speaker 3: I know there have been tangs. I've gone through a
Speaker 3: few bin tangs for sure.
Speaker 1: Maybe bin tags just needed to single it that people
Speaker 1: could wear that would have promoted them. She's not a
Speaker 1: bad ideas.
Speaker 3: Because the bin tags are going completely because in the
Speaker 3: north Shore of Auckland they're getting rid of them from
Speaker 3: March next year. I don't know why they had them,
Speaker 3: so we should have We should celebrate it by getting
Speaker 3: the bin tang logo and just having a play with
Speaker 3: it and calling it, intending it into bin tags.
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Speaker 4: Continue to go.
Speaker 1: My wedding is next Saturday, and I hope my partner
Speaker 1: Manders just take his earbuds out listening to you guys
Speaker 1: long enough to say I do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it's one of the great voicemails ever. Was that pass?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I felt. I felt there's a little bit of pass
Speaker 3: egg at the inn there. I mean, she's gone out
Speaker 3: of her way to send the message as well, so
Speaker 3: it's kind of she doesn't want to talk to him
Speaker 3: about it. So maybe this is via this podcast medium. Yes,
Speaker 3: she's letting him know you be not be fucking listening
Speaker 3: to the cricket with our wedding day.
Speaker 1: That's the only way she can talk to him now
Speaker 1: because he's always got the headphones. It sounded like she
Speaker 1: was on a walk this and like she was outside.
Speaker 1: I reckon she's gone for a walk because she's like
Speaker 1: I can't talk to this guy's watching cricket and on
Speaker 1: the walk she's tuned into the country. What is this
Speaker 1: all the Yeah, he's just listened and she has gone
Speaker 1: that's a ship all right here at the little phone button,
Speaker 1: and then like, all right, guys, it's one of the
Speaker 1: all time And I think every relationship does it. We
Speaker 1: do it through the cat. We don't have kids, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do the cat. And I didn't the dish washer today,
Speaker 1: did it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I didn't feed you again, that's why you're meiling somebody.
Speaker 3: I must admit fire and animal far more pass egg
Speaker 3: than via a child, because yeah, a child can go
Speaker 3: nah he loaded it yesterday, or you know, they can
Speaker 3: where's the cat? It's got nowhere to go? No, you're like,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, moose, did you not get fit either?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, where'd you got cold food as well? Just leftovers? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is way more pass egg, you're right, than
Speaker 1: a kid, because you could play it off as if
Speaker 1: you were actually asking the kids something. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: asking the cat shit, Oh dad didn't pack your lunch
Speaker 1: this morning?
Speaker 3: Did he?
Speaker 1: Like that is you could actually be asking the kid
Speaker 1: that he about.
Speaker 3: We're more than happy to open up the yours please
Speaker 3: to relationships who who are struggling with communication. You feel
Speaker 3: free to communicate via the medium of talkbacks.
Speaker 1: Please, because there are some things that you know you
Speaker 1: want to address with your partner, but you know if
Speaker 1: you ever brought it up then it would become a thing.
Speaker 1: So you need like a third party to be able
Speaker 1: to broach the subject with them.
Speaker 3: Especially if you don't hur their feelings, and especially if
Speaker 3: you know they listen to this podcast. Yeah, so you
Speaker 3: can just get your message across that way.
Speaker 1: It's a great point. It will not work the other
Speaker 1: way around if they don't listen to this podcast. Don't
Speaker 1: bother sending us. Don't never hear it, although we'd like
Speaker 1: to hear it. Or you can tell them to listen
Speaker 1: to it and then we'd get us one more listener.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll be up to three. Another caller here, yours.
Speaker 4: Please, just wanted to say you guys have done a
Speaker 4: bloody good job with the punish a bat and the
Speaker 4: swing ball.
Speaker 3: It's of what I have the week here and listen
Speaker 3: to the cricket, but at beach cricket.
Speaker 4: I have never hit a ball as far in my life,
Speaker 4: and I've never had more deviation off the bounds.
Speaker 3: Well done, don't God's work here.
Speaker 4: I am going to serve some is up at cross.
Speaker 3: Chess boss. Well, what a ringing endorsement for our cricket
Speaker 3: sets at Rebel Sport. Yea, yeah, like you mentioned that
Speaker 3: if you must have heard by now, we're seen on socials.
Speaker 3: But the punisher is selling like hotcake as a bat.
Speaker 3: That is the size. It's plastic and hollowed out like
Speaker 3: any other kind of Kiwi cricket bat, but it is
Speaker 3: the size of a David Warner cooker barrough.
Speaker 1: It's enormous. Yeah, it's enormous. It's a meat axe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. And the beach is the appropriate
Speaker 1: place for it. Yeah, because even if you just block it,
Speaker 1: a FULLD defensive will go across the boundary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, backyards. It's going to be challenging to control yourself.
Speaker 3: I mean because the thick it's thickest, it's probably twenty
Speaker 3: probably fifteen centimeters and it's thickest and the range of
Speaker 3: balls we've already pre taped a ball for you. That
Speaker 3: thing deviates like nobody. So it's like one half of
Speaker 3: the ball was twice as heavy as the other half. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're going to get a lot of movement in
Speaker 3: the air.
Speaker 1: It's all sorts, says that training ball, that's all sort
Speaker 1: of weird shapes and then you throw it and oh
Speaker 1: the reaction ball. Yeah, tell you what, should we send
Speaker 1: a bunch of reaction balls to the black Caps get
Speaker 1: into the these this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But we've also got the pass It Forward sets as well,
Speaker 3: which are good, which is a full set of plastic
Speaker 3: cricket set and everyone you buy, we give one to charity.
Speaker 3: So we're about giving.
Speaker 1: Yea and we've got your stocked for for Christmas as well.
Speaker 1: If you're short of an idea, one must call it
Speaker 1: yours place.
Speaker 4: Grim Lane strucks again. Just a quick question here, Julane.
Speaker 4: Where were you on Thursday the start of the test.
Speaker 4: You're in christ Church, which is way for you supporting
Speaker 4: a team that you quite enjoy.
Speaker 3: Fuck you, Yes, I was in christ Church on Thursday?
Speaker 3: Are we okay we're implying that it's the Grim Lane curses?
Speaker 3: Is there what you're saying? I'm in I'm in Wellington
Speaker 3: on Friday, So I guess we'll find out.
Speaker 1: If any one works at the Auckland Airport that could
Speaker 1: prohibit ge Lane from getting on the plane to Wellington
Speaker 1: this week. Please do your best because he's hitting down.
Speaker 3: We're coming down if we lose this one, coming down.
Speaker 1: We lose this one again the curses and oh yeah true.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I'll be in Hamilton as well, wheeling at
Speaker 3: a fiberglass camel around the boundary in Hamilton.
Speaker 1: So does Hamilton count because you're from Hamilton I live,
Speaker 1: but I live in Yeah, that's a good point. So yeah,
Speaker 1: while we are down there in Wellington, what could we
Speaker 1: and this might be something for you at home to
Speaker 1: send through yours please about But what could we do
Speaker 1: for the black Caps the night before the game, because
Speaker 1: that's when we'll be there? Could we do we set
Speaker 1: up a loser circle for the Black Cats to help
Speaker 1: them with their catching? Should we present them with their caps?
Speaker 3: So the night before every Test match they get represented
Speaker 3: their caps by someone of usually note of note and
Speaker 3: gives the motive we did. We've done it once before
Speaker 3: before a one day and Wellington went to the hotel
Speaker 3: and myself off Paul Ford and Jeremy Wells and Matt Heath.
Speaker 3: We all gave a speech each.
Speaker 1: And then presented the cat.
Speaker 3: Yeah and mine was about how much you know, how
Speaker 3: much the inventories full the nation and you know, you
Speaker 3: guys are much bitter people. Jerry's was on the herey jab.
Speaker 3: Matt Heath talked about because Mike Hessen was the coach
Speaker 3: at the time, about his experience with Mike Hessen and
Speaker 3: sneaking person into grounds. Paul Ford was the only one
Speaker 3: that made any sense. He actually gave a proper motivational speech.
Speaker 3: And then we lined up and we were welcomed them up,
Speaker 3: you know, and shake their hand. Gran Elliott came up
Speaker 3: here and we give them their cat cat number such.
Speaker 1: And such and how'd they go?
Speaker 3: They lost, They lost, but it was a good experience
Speaker 3: and afterwards we walked out.
Speaker 1: And fuck it was that a little bit?
Speaker 3: They had a good time. Yeah, it was because usually
Speaker 3: it's someone like I remember Russell Crowe once did it
Speaker 3: in Sydney for them, and he came into the changing
Speaker 3: room and threw his New Zealand passport onto the floor
Speaker 3: in the middle of the changing room instead of my
Speaker 3: fucking New Zealander. And I've heard that was one of
Speaker 3: the best ones. Yeah, we knew they got full gladiator
Speaker 3: last right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's powerful, all right, let us know, send us a
Speaker 1: wee voicemail and tell us what we should do while
Speaker 1: we're down there in Wellington to help buoy the troops
Speaker 1: and otherwise. We'll see you tomorrow for a Tuesday episode
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