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Speaker 1: So we've got a UNISEF report out and it's pretty

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Speaker 1: grim reading if you're talking about youth suicide in New

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Speaker 1: Zealand compared to the rest of the world, compared to

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Speaker 1: rich countries and the rest of the world anyway. So

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Speaker 1: what it says is, pre COVID we had a rate

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Speaker 1: of fourteen point nine per one hundred thousand people. This

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Speaker 1: is for fifteen to nineteen year olds. After COVID it

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Speaker 1: increased to seventeen point one, which means we were the

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Speaker 1: highest in the developed world and almost three times higher

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Speaker 1: than the average for high income countries. Tanya siwiky Meat

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Speaker 1: is from UNIICF with me this morning. Tanya, good morning,

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Speaker 1: good morning. What do you think pushed that up during COVID.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, what we did see is that across a

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Speaker 2: lot of the countries analyzed in this report that you said,

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Speaker 2: well the countries are we set e countries, there was

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Speaker 2: quite a significant decrease in life satisfaction for young people.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we could attribute some of that faciiti

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Speaker 2: in to the COVID pandemic, the disruption that that had

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Speaker 2: on everyone's lives, but particularly the disruption that it had

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Speaker 2: on young people's lives. So school being disrupted, routines being upended,

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Speaker 2: the uncertainty, the fear of the impact of that really

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Speaker 2: significant period of time. But for New Zealand, you know,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned in your introduction, we have this really

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Speaker 2: staggeringly high suicide rate for young people when compared to

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Speaker 2: other countries, and that hasn't significantly shifted over the period

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Speaker 2: pre or post COVID enough to really make it then

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Speaker 2: in the horrific statistics that we have. So there are

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Speaker 2: many other factors I think going on there As to

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Speaker 2: White mu Zealands, use suicide rate remained so stubbornly high.

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Speaker 1: And these numbers are just up to twenty twenty two, right,

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Speaker 1: but we have seen although we don't know for sure,

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Speaker 1: but potentially those numbers coming down over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So how suicide reporting works is that there are

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Speaker 2: confirmed data. So that's where the coroner has confirmed that

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Speaker 2: our death was a suicide, and it takes quite a

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Speaker 2: while for that data essentially to catch up to the

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Speaker 2: present day. So what we have is confirmed data in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand for up to twenty twenty two, and this report,

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Speaker 2: because it's trying to compare like for like with all

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Speaker 2: these different countries, uses data that aggregates a little earlier

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Speaker 2: than that's more like up to twenty twenty one. And

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Speaker 2: so what we do see in New Zealand's our own

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Speaker 2: data that it collects on suicide is that there may

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Speaker 2: be some small improvements, but not enough to actually shift

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Speaker 2: the facts that we are still that massive outlie when

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Speaker 2: we compared to those other countries. It's still it may

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Speaker 2: be making small improvements, but it's still far too high, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Tanya, really appreciate your time this morning. Tanya Sowaki

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