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Speaker 2: Rail boats, one with a phone call, one with the ceasefire,

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Speaker 2: and tatters we got the rental market debate. Can the

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Speaker 2: middle class really not afford rent? And if so, how

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Speaker 2: come we handing out grocery vouchers to entice you? In

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Speaker 3: In Australia Posky.

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Speaker 2: Middle of the week, welcome to it, seven past six,

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Speaker 2: So a question for you to start off this morning.

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Speaker 2: Who's right? The rental market is like musical chairs. There's

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Speaker 2: a headline from yesterday, the rental market is like musical chairs.

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Speaker 2: Landlords are offering grocery vouchers and incentives to sign up

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Speaker 2: for rentals. But headline number two, even the middle class

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Speaker 2: are struggling to pay rent. But story number three, a

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Speaker 2: report I read by JB. Weir about wealth transfer, which

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Speaker 2: is actually a story in itself that upshot is we

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Speaker 2: are the seventh wealthiest country on earth. If you do

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Speaker 2: the media, I e. Half above, half below with the

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Speaker 2: fifth wealthiest. So if we're so wealthy, how come we

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Speaker 2: can't afford rent? And if we can't afford rent, how

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Speaker 2: come they're offering grocery vouchers to luris and none others?

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Speaker 2: Make sense? The answer, of course, lies in the specifics

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Speaker 2: of each story. The middle class line came from a

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Speaker 2: unionist they called an economist in the story, so a

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Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars a year. Now, teachers don't earn sixty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year. Will only the new ones do,

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Speaker 2: the young ones. But let's be frank, if you are

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Speaker 2: new and young and starting on those early wages, you

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Speaker 2: should be flatting. As for the voucher's story, well, that's

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Speaker 2: a reflection of the good news. Rentals are not rising

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Speaker 2: the way they were because of supply. Thousands more houses

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Speaker 2: are on the market. There are some more houses than punters.

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Speaker 2: So that sort of supply demand equation is good, of

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Speaker 2: course for the consumer. So if you drum up the

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Speaker 2: worst case scenario, guess what you'll find a problem closely

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Speaker 2: followed by a headline. But what of this wealth transfer

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Speaker 2: wealth interesting report. Billions is changing hands as the boomers

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Speaker 2: die and the kids get the inheritance. Women are disproportionately

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Speaker 2: benefiting over men. It will carry on, apparently well into

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Speaker 2: the twenty forties, and is a reminder that we are

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Speaker 2: not in fact a squalid, broke backwater that many would

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Speaker 2: make us out to be. Yes, we may well be

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Speaker 2: a low paid or low wage economy, but we are

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Speaker 2: not as economically divided as many would make out. We

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Speaker 2: are not broken, and through things like housing, vast sums

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Speaker 2: have been amassed and it's currently being bequeathed and left

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Speaker 2: to others. The trick is to read the detail, not

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Speaker 2: fall for the headline. Of course, can some not afford rent, Yes,

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Speaker 2: of course, but it's not the norm. That's your story.

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Speaker 2: But then that doesn't make a good headline.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds, World.

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Speaker 2: War Talk this morning. It is one in the afternoon

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Speaker 2: in Washington, eight at night in Moscow, and in the scenes.

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Speaker 5: In fact, it's the quiet stuff that Donald Trump has

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Speaker 5: been saying out loud, is that Ukraine will have to

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Speaker 5: concede some land to Russia if there is to be

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Speaker 5: a peace deal. Will that be crimea. Will it be

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Speaker 5: more than that.

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Speaker 2: Then the other war, which isn't going so well, enter

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Speaker 2: the United Nations.

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Speaker 6: First order is fired to be fully respected. Second for

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Speaker 6: humanitarian aids to have access to Gaza in an unimpedied

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Speaker 2: The Israeli is not really buying into Antonio's thinking.

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Speaker 7: Let me be very clear as well, We'll not stop

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Speaker 7: until all of our hostages are back home.

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Speaker 2: On the ground, it's hard work in Gaza.

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Speaker 8: I did six operations overnight. Half of them were in

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Speaker 8: small children, probably six in the level. Most of them

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just utter carnage as usual when you drop

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Speaker 2: Then a Britain dyd arrived for the government and the

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Speaker 2: welfare reformed. Billions that have been saved and fingers needed pointing.

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Speaker 10: The consequences of this failure are there for all to see.

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Speaker 10: Millions of people who could work, trapped on benefits, denied

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Speaker 2: She's a labor minister. Toy's not impressed.

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Speaker 11: They walked into the department with empty notebooks, all that

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Speaker 10: Instead of the hard work of coming up.

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Speaker 2: With their own answers.

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Speaker 10: That's why the country has had to wait another eight

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Speaker 2: And that is news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the British politics, Sir Kimmy Badnock gave a speech.

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Speaker 2: It is her words, impossible, impossible for the UK to

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Speaker 2: meet its net zero target by twenty fifty without quote

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Speaker 2: unquote a serious drop in our living standards, or by

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Speaker 2: bankrupting us. When you're that explicit and that deliberate, one

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Speaker 2: wonders if the whole nit zero thing is slowly but

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Speaker 2: is slowly but surely coming to an end. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Zippy phone calling it at about half an hour ago.

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Speaker 2: We'll get the details as soon as we can. Richard

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Speaker 2: Arnold on standby. Of course, German Bundestarg voted in favor

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Speaker 2: that big debt break thing's gone. They've got the half

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Speaker 2: Andrew Callaha, good.

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Speaker 8: Morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Dairy auction. The dairy auction looked okay but flat but okay.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's no news good news.

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Speaker 7: So the global dairy trade auction overnight and precisely no

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Speaker 7: and from the out of this numbers, there's no reason

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Speaker 8: It seems fantastical, doesn't it. So we're talking electric cars now.

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Speaker 7: The business, they're a little challenged at the moment in

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Speaker 7: that's the really only thing holding it up. But the

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Speaker 7: really important factor, Mike is also competition, because the competitive

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Speaker 7: So build your dreams. BYD announced this key development yesterday.

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Speaker 7: As you say, Chinese listed multinational company that makes electric cars.

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Speaker 7: They have now trumped Tesla with a new system for

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Speaker 7: your Preas or your miss and Leaf and do this.

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Speaker 7: Tesla's now Tesla's Chines shipment fell forty nine percent in

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Speaker 8: To help that. Let's have a quick look at the

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Speaker 7: It's Tesla down forty three percent, BYD up fifty one percent.

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Speaker 7: The only thing I would say, Mike, are we're just

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Speaker 7: That's more than the combined value of Ford, GM and

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Speaker 2: All right, bring us on to the land. The rural

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Speaker 7: And so we've seen the good prices for dry general

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Speaker 8: Ain't no stopping them now, Mike.

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Speaker 7: And as said agrisector leading us into economic recovery, which

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Speaker 7: well so of the positive farms out there. This optimism

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Speaker 7: The only point of interest I saw in the survey,

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Speaker 8: They're just getting a little worried about this is.

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Speaker 7: About their own performance, and it seems that dry where

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Speaker 8: But the good times just keep rolling on out there.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I like it, give me some numbers.

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Speaker 7: So we're sitting around waiting to listen to Jensen Ung

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Speaker 7: pivotal for the short term confidence in the mag seven.

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Speaker 7: But at the moment, the Dow Jones is down three

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Speaker 2: Be but the phone called and sound great movement to

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Speaker 2: peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire. Only

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Speaker 2: a new report this morning that suggests we need overhaul

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Speaker 2: of the apprenticeship system. Nearly twice as many school leaders

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Speaker 2: I mean, how on earth did this happen? New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Initiative Education Research fellow Michael Johnston's whether it's Michael, very

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Speaker 13: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: So eleven percent sixteen to nineteen year olds not in

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Speaker 2: How does that work? Why do we allow that to happen?

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Speaker 13: Well, it's not so much. What we allow to happen

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Speaker 13: half of its young people leaving school going straight into apprenticeships.

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Speaker 13: We need to do much more at various levels of

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Speaker 13: and also see it as a high status option.

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Speaker 2: When I was at school, and it's a long time ago,

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Speaker 13: Well well, seeing apprenticeship training as a being for the

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Speaker 2: And so how does that work. Does the school need

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Speaker 2: and go here's what engineering is, and here are all

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Speaker 13: Yeah, kind of all of the above. So you know,

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Speaker 2: See what you're telling me, Michaels. I mean, with all

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Speaker 2: due respect to you, it is fairly obvious. Do we

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Speaker 13: Well, it requires joined up thinking from secondary to tertiary

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Speaker 13: So it's a matter of coordinating bringing the pieces together,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting. All right, Michael, appreciate your time. Michael Johnson

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Speaker 2: the report by the New Zealand Initiative. He's an education

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Speaker 15: Putin of storing how long does it take? Putin say yes,

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Speaker 15: he said, so, it's not that, is it. The first

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Speaker 15: readout says an initial ceasefire would be for energy issues.

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Speaker 15: That'd be a starting point. The two then agreed there

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Speaker 15: would be benefits from renewed US Russia contacts. The extent

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Speaker 15: of that, well, that's unclear as well. So far, there

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Speaker 15: is also talk of a prisoner exchange involving some hundred people. Aside,

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Speaker 15: further negotiations would take place through continuing diplomacy so these

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Speaker 15: are not the security and territorial issues.

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Speaker 16: Are they?

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Speaker 15: Putin was late for the phone call, which began nearly

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Speaker 15: two hours out of the expected time. Putin, of course

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Speaker 15: notorious for such diplomatic games. You know, back when Ungela

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Speaker 15: Merkel was German Chancellor, she was terrified of dogs at

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Speaker 15: Putin brought his dog into the Kremlin meeting room to

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Speaker 15: scare her, said Merkel. Nothing of the kind, said Putin.

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Speaker 16: Sure.

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Speaker 15: Meantime, Putin is said to be demanding that the US

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Speaker 15: stop will armshipments to Ukraine, along with other big conditions.

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Speaker 15: So the question is what will Trump do if Putin

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Speaker 15: repudiates the Trump effort on those main counts. We are

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Speaker 15: yet to find. Trump also busy on another front. As

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Speaker 15: the head of the U. S. Supreme Court, Chief Justice

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Speaker 15: John Roberts has slammed a Trump calls for the impeachment

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Speaker 15: of judges who rule against him. The Chief Justice saying

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Speaker 15: in a rare written statement, quote impeachment is not an

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Speaker 15: appropriate response for disagreement concerning a judicial decision. He says,

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Speaker 15: the normal appellate process exists for that purpose. This relates

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Speaker 15: to the Trump move to expel some one hundred and

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Speaker 15: thirty Venezuelans that the US claims, without a lot of

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Speaker 15: evidence being given, claims they are gang members. They were

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Speaker 15: sent to El Salvador, which is established some of the

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Speaker 15: most severe prisons on earth. A federal judge ordered a

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Speaker 15: whold of these deportations, but three aircraft went off to

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Speaker 15: El Salvador anyway, two or in flight when the judge's

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Speaker 15: order was given. Trump is doing this using a seventeen

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Speaker 15: to eighty eight law that applies to wartime conditions, and Trump,

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Speaker 15: in a social media post called the judge a quote

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Speaker 15: troublemaker and agitator who should be impeached. Trump aids also

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Speaker 15: are railing over this, says Trump's borders are Tom Homan.

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Speaker 12: Or not stopping.

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Speaker 13: I don't care what the judges think.

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Speaker 2: I don't care the lap thanks were coming.

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Speaker 15: Don't care what judges think. Really, while Trump, inside of

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Speaker 15: Stephen Miller also is ranting about the judge.

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Speaker 8: He didn't know what damn thing.

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Speaker 16: He didn't care about the lives of those officers.

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Speaker 13: He didn't care about the national security of this country.

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Speaker 15: So that's the fire storm the Chief justice is entering

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Speaker 15: in the so called democracy. When just the other day,

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Speaker 15: when Trump was addressing the Congress. He patted the head

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Speaker 15: of the Supreme Court chief and thanked the Chief Justice,

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Speaker 15: adding he wouldn't forget what he has done. That seemed

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Speaker 15: like Trump thanking the highest judge in the country for

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Speaker 15: writing the immunity decision that saved Trump for potential jail

491
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Speaker 15: time in the federal election interference case. Trump now says no, no, no,

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Speaker 15: he wasn't referring to criminal immunity for US presidents, but

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Speaker 15: was merely thanking him for delivering the oath of office

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Speaker 15: when Trump was sworn in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a win splashed down a bit.

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Speaker 15: Over four hours. We're talking about this crew, these two

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Speaker 15: American astronaut Sunny Williams and Butch Wilmore, who had their

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Speaker 15: original eight day mission extended just a little right nearly

499
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Speaker 15: nine months. They've been up on the International Space Station.

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Speaker 15: There was a problem with their SpaceX capsule. Now they're

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Speaker 15: coming home on a SpaceX dragon ship and set to

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Speaker 15: land in a short time. Sonny Williams short sounded relieved

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Speaker 15: when their rescue ship arrived earlier today. Here's what she

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Speaker 15: had to say. It was a wonderful day.

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Speaker 10: Great to see our friends arrive.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 15: You could hear it in the voice. They climbed aboard

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Speaker 15: the dragon craft, which then began it's seventeen hour return flights.

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Speaker 17: Sonny Williams and Butch Wilmore began their pleaded trip.

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Speaker 15: You know, when they get back, they'll undergo a lot

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Speaker 15: of medical tests before they can reunite with families. That's

512
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Speaker 15: because zero gravity effects almost every part of a human body.

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Speaker 15: You get one third less muscle after just two weeks

514
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Speaker 15: up in space. With long stint like this, you lose

515
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Speaker 15: some bone mass, Your eyesight gets blurry, your head balloons

516
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Speaker 15: a little bit, You get what they call chicken legs.

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Speaker 15: Your heart and immune system are affected. Also, NASA's saying,

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Speaker 15: after some time back on Earth, you recover mostly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Richard and Onnild back on Friday on the program.

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Speaker 2: By the way, very good piece reprinted in the Herald

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Speaker 2: yesterday from the New York Times by Kristen Salters Anderson,

522
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Speaker 2: who's a polster, looking at why Trump's and trouble pole

523
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Speaker 2: wise and concludes that basically the number one issue is

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Speaker 2: the economy. It was always the economy, and they don't

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Speaker 2: understand what he's trying to do with tariffs, and all

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Speaker 2: they see is everything going up in price and also

527
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Speaker 2: around expectation. What they thought he was about and what

528
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Speaker 2: he is about appear to be increasingly two different things.

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Speaker 2: So that's well worth a read if you're following such matters.

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Speaker 2: Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast with Alveda retirement Communities News Togs

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Speaker 1: had been.

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Speaker 2: Right, so Trump is a bit stuck on this. It

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Speaker 2: was emphasized. This is the readout from the Kremlin. It

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Speaker 2: was emphasized that the key condition for preventing escalation of

536
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Speaker 2: the conflict and working towards its resolution by political diplomatic means,

537
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Speaker 2: et cetera, should be the complete cessation of foreign military

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Speaker 2: aid and the provision of intelligence information to keep it.

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Speaker 2: In other words, turn off the intelligence that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's not happening. In connection with Trump's recent

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Speaker 2: appeal to save the lives of Ukrainian serviceman surrounded the

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Speaker 2: Curse region, this is what Trump was talking about yesterday

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Speaker 2: when he was at the Kennedy Center. Putin confirmed that

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Speaker 2: the Russian side is ready to be guided by humanitarian

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Speaker 2: considerations and in the event of surrender, guarantees the lives

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Speaker 2: of the Ukrainian Armed Force soldiers and decent treatment in accordance

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Speaker 2: with Russian laws and international law, which I think are

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Speaker 2: probably two completely different things. The call was concluded, and

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Speaker 2: this hasn't been widely reported. This is why the show

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Speaker 2: is so good at what it does. Donald Trump supported

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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin's idea to organize hockey matches in the US

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Speaker 2: and Russia between Russian and American players and the NHL

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Speaker 2: and the KHL.

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Speaker 8: Oh, there you go.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a vast after all. It was exactly so

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Speaker 2: they got the hockey sort. Thank god for that. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 4: The ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fears with business Fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next list now.

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Speaker 2: Has common since finally come to streaming. From today, if

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Speaker 2: you've got Amazon Prime, you'll be able to access Apple

563
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Speaker 2: TV as an add on. So you're on Prime, you

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Speaker 2: go straight to Apple. You're still going to pay for

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Speaker 2: it fourteen ninety nine a month, but it means you

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Speaker 2: don't have to download another wrap on your TV or

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Speaker 2: switch between screaming. So what Amazon now offer as well

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Speaker 2: as Apples all that other streaming stuff they put up

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Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. They got MGM plus and

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Speaker 2: Lionsgate and Hayu and crunchy Roll and dock Play and

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Speaker 2: all that. It's also slightly weird, and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: confuse myself. Here's a little bit weird because Prime links

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Speaker 2: from the Apple TV home screen, so Apple I actually

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Speaker 2: did it first, but Prime of copy them. So whatever

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Speaker 2: that means, it doesn't really matter. All it means is

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Speaker 2: you get Apple on Prime. So there is a free

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Speaker 2: v Also they're offering at the moment to tempt you

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Speaker 2: New Zealand customers get seven days free trial for any

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Speaker 2: Amazon add on subscriptions. Although having said that, I tried that.

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Speaker 2: I went to watch Over the Summer, the Paul Simon documentary,

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Speaker 2: and that was on doc Play, But then to get

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Speaker 2: onto dock Play, I had to then start signing up

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Speaker 2: and giving details of my name and address. And I've

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Speaker 2: got stories about.

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Speaker 16: That for you.

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Speaker 2: Before seven thirty this morning. I had a run in

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Speaker 2: with one New Zealand yesterday, which isn't really a streamer.

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Speaker 2: They are a telco, but they are to do with tech,

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Speaker 2: and anything to do with tech really gets up my

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Speaker 2: nose and head and does my head in and it's

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Speaker 2: sort of ruined my day. But more on that later,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, so if you want the three trial b

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Speaker 2: where be worn, four warned is fore arms, rolling stone,

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Speaker 2: gathers no moss and all those other things. Now the

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Speaker 2: war times too, So first of all, what do we

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Speaker 2: make of this phone call as far as they can

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Speaker 2: work out to bust for Trump, he's not delivered on

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Speaker 2: this or anywhere close to it. What happens next? Then

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Speaker 2: the Middle East the ceasefires off. But then again didn't

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Speaker 2: we say that was going to happen, because it happened

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Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty times over, So we'll deal

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Speaker 2: with that. Then we've got politics Wednesday with Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: who is in India by the way, so he'll be

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Speaker 2: coming in from India in the early hours of the

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Speaker 2: morning along with Ginny Ands. And that's after way on

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Speaker 2: the my hosting vision.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: mic casting breakfast with the range Rover, the LA designed

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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use.

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Speaker 2: Togsda'd be seven past seven. So a couple of days

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Speaker 2: ago on the Air Force one back to Washington, we

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Speaker 2: were talking about land power plants and debiding up certain assets.

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Speaker 2: That was going to be the phone call where the

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Speaker 2: phone calls come and gone, it seems to who have

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Speaker 2: had limited success. A non resident senior fellow at the

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Speaker 2: Center for European Policy Analysis said, with Lucas has with

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Speaker 2: us on, they said good morning to you, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of what we've heard so far?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty thin pickings. Really. The thing that struck

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Speaker 3: me most was not the call, but what happened beforehand,

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Speaker 3: when Putin was on some live panel as a conference

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Speaker 3: and the moderator said, aren't you meant to be having

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Speaker 3: your call with Trump just now? And the sort of

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Speaker 3: widespread laughter because of Putin's famous weaponized unpunctuality. So I

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Speaker 3: do feel that he's showing the respects to Trump that

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Speaker 3: Pump shows to Putin, and perhaps the rather thin pickings

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Speaker 3: out of the call reflect that in.

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Speaker 2: The sense of what we've got specifically, in other words,

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Speaker 2: until they cut off for intelligence, until they cut off

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Speaker 2: aid we're not talking or going any further. Was that

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Speaker 2: always expected from Russia and therefore we shouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 3: I think that the what we expect from Russia is

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Speaker 3: to spin things out and to try and and then

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Speaker 3: bog things down. So the thing that leaped out at

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Speaker 3: me was the idea of a maritime ceasefire in the

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Speaker 3: Black Sea. Now, is that cover for Russia being able

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Speaker 3: to get its neighbor out of its navy out of

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Speaker 3: the little corner of the Black Sea it's retreated to

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Speaker 3: because of Ukrainian drones. That would be quite a bad

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Speaker 3: thing if it means that Russia won't attack grain shits

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Speaker 3: coming in and out of a death So that's a

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Speaker 3: good thing. The second thing that really struck me was

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Speaker 3: the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons. Now that's

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Speaker 3: presumably a reference to the way in which European countries feel,

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Speaker 3: pretests scared about the loss of the American neutral umbrella,

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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of discussion in Europe about what

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Speaker 3: we could do with British or French nukes and whether

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Speaker 3: other countries are going to need nukes too. So that's

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Speaker 3: a sign that Russian's notice about that. And the third

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Speaker 3: thing that struck me was this idea that there was

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Speaker 3: a huge upside to an improved bilateral relationship to the

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Speaker 3: Americans and Russians. And that shows me to me that

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Speaker 3: the Americans are willing to cut the Europeans loose and

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Speaker 3: go for what they think is a good deal with

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Speaker 3: Russia and hang the rest of US.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to ask about you, where does

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Speaker 2: that leave them? And can I now argue that Sea

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Speaker 2: told you Putent doesn't want peace.

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Speaker 3: I think it leaves the E on the sidelines really

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Speaker 3: for now, because it just shows that the dynamic is

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Speaker 3: what we've always feared here in Europe, is that the

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Speaker 3: negotiations will be about us, but without us, and that

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Speaker 3: really is what's going on. This war in Ukraine isn't

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Speaker 3: just an invasion of Ukraine. It's a kind of an

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Speaker 3: attempt by Putin to be set the whole idea of

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Speaker 3: European security and the idea that European countries can choose

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Speaker 3: who their allies and alliances are going to be, and

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Speaker 3: that's now being decided over our heads. So I think

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Speaker 3: that the next thing probably is that the Europeans are

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Speaker 3: going to be pushing back on this and saying to

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Speaker 3: the Ukrainians, look, we've got your back, dir't be bullied,

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Speaker 3: don't be bullied. And the gap across the Atlantic, then

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Speaker 3: he's going to get wider and wider.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it would appreciate the insight very much here, but

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Speaker 2: Lucas non residency and you fell out at the center

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Speaker 2: of a European policy analysis. Will get him back on

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Speaker 2: the program, because this thing's going nowhere fast. Ten minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven last one time the other war, of course,

679
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Speaker 2: as well as launched these new strikes and Gaza negotiations.

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Speaker 2: For the past couple of weeks, we've gone nowhere. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the international geopolitical analyst Jeffrey Miller is back with us.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey morning, Good morning. Mind. This does have the same old,

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Speaker 2: same old feel about it, isn't It wasn't very hard

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Speaker 2: to predict that Phase two probably wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: a thing and the bombs would start falling again. Where

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Speaker 2: does this go? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 18: Yes?

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Speaker 19: Look, the surprise really was that the cease file lasted

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Speaker 19: as long as it did, almost two whole months, and

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Speaker 19: it was a success. It took Gaza off the front

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Speaker 19: pages for around eight weeks and we started looking at

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Speaker 19: tariffs and back to the war in Ukraine. But now

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Speaker 19: we're back at square one and it was the deadiest

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Speaker 19: twenty four hour period in the war since November twenty

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Speaker 19: twenty three. We have a four hundred kil It's a

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Speaker 19: desperately sad situation and we absolutely need to keep applicating

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Speaker 19: for that ceasfire to be resumed, because it's now looking

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Speaker 19: increasingly grim. Israel's Defense minister is promising the gates as

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Speaker 19: hell will open if Hamas does not release the remaining

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Speaker 19: twenty four hostages, and it could go from bad to words.

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Speaker 2: Is Israel right, give us the hostages and we've got

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Speaker 2: a deal and they haven't handed over the hostages.

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Speaker 19: Well, look, the devil is always in the detail. There

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Speaker 19: has been some real success with the CSIRE since January,

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Speaker 19: you've had twenty five hostages released alive. I think the

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Speaker 19: correct approach would have been to continue negotiating and the

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Speaker 19: talks we're on going. The official first day of the

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Speaker 19: CSIRE ended in the start of March and since then

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Speaker 19: we've been in a holding period. But negotiations broke down

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Speaker 19: and Doha at the weekend over the extension of the ceasfire.

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Speaker 19: Hamas wanted to move into phase two, Israel wanted to

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Speaker 19: extend phase one. And now Israel has just gone and

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Speaker 19: with military approach. It's been greenlit by Donald Trump. So

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Speaker 19: Donald Trump deserves a lot of the credit for bringing

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Speaker 19: that ceestire about in January, but he also deserves the

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Speaker 19: blame now for allowing this to happen, and ultimately the

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Speaker 19: only way through now here is through Donald Trump. Donald

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Speaker 19: Trump was incredibly powerful. We saw how Joe Biden was

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Speaker 19: very impotent when it came to Gaza and Nettagnard, who

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Speaker 19: did what he pleased. Trump does hold all the cards,

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Speaker 19: as he might say on Gaza at the moment.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeffrey, appreciate it, Jeffrey Miller, international geopolitical analyst.

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Speaker 2: But he won't be feeling particularly good about the phone calling.

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Speaker 2: He might be a bit stretched. I mean, there's only

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Speaker 2: so many things you can promise and eventually you got

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Speaker 2: to deliver. Thirteen minutes past seven tasking Lornie, Mike, I'm

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Speaker 2: a trade employer. This is a good conversation. Back to

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Speaker 2: our six thirty interview this morning about the number of

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Speaker 2: kids sixteen to nineteen year olds. Eleven percent of them

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Speaker 2: just leave school to go nowhere. I'm a trade employer.

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Speaker 2: There was an apprenticeship boost, but that was cut last year.

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Speaker 2: There's not enough employers taking on apprentices It's the same

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Speaker 2: employers taking on the apprentices then they get poached by

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Speaker 2: another company in the fourth year. Four more money, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I'm sixty four. If I had my life over again,

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Speaker 2: I'd be a pastry ship. Being at a private school

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Speaker 2: and supposedly bright. I was automatically streamed into the Latin

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Speaker 2: and French, which I was good at, but it didn't

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Speaker 2: help me plan a career. It's so true, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: The education system does need to change, the apprenticeship system

741
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Speaker 2: needs to change, industry needs to get into schools, and

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Speaker 2: so it goes quickly. New rental information. We've been talking

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Speaker 2: about that as well this morning Fairbon feb. This is

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Speaker 2: from trade Me. Rents are down in Auckland two point

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Speaker 2: nine percent. They're down on Hawks Bay, they're down in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: they're down in Northland, but they're up in Canterbury, up

747
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Speaker 2: in Otago and up in Southland. So it gives you,

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Speaker 2: once again sort of nothing seems to look up, a little, down,

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Speaker 2: a little, depending on where you're looking. Six six sixty

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Speaker 2: is the average in Auckland. Six point eighty is the

751
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Speaker 2: average in the Bay of Plenty. I'm just looking for

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Speaker 2: Wellington because they're claiming to be the most expensive place

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Speaker 2: in the country, but they haven'tlisted Wellington. Oh here it

754
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: is six sixty five, So those are your that's your

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Speaker 2: rental update for this Wednesday morning, fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: Mike, what is Canterbury's average rent? Please? The answer is

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Speaker 2: five hundred and eighty dollars and it's up fairbon fab

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Speaker 2: by two point seven percent. Mike. I think it's been

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Speaker 2: you being a bit tough on Trumpet because they have

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Speaker 2: a form of ceasefire. That's true. Biden certainly couldn't get

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Speaker 2: anywhere close. That's also true. But the point is, if

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Speaker 2: you're going to play the Grant Robertson game of I

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Speaker 2: found somebody just spectacularly useless, so I'm a little bit

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00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: better than them. I don't play that game. He said

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Speaker 2: he'd fixed the war day one. He hasn't done it,

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Speaker 2: and this hasn't gone well for him seventeen past seven. Now,

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Speaker 2: as we said at the start of the show, depends

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Speaker 2: on any given day who you listen to and who

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Speaker 2: you believe to. On housing, see one unionist yesterday telling

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Speaker 2: us the middle class can't afford rent, while an agent

774
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 2: tells us grocery vouchers are being offered to get renters

775
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Speaker 2: into houses. No shortage of houses. Rentals in Auckland alone

776
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Speaker 2: are up thirty four percent on last year. Now. The

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Speaker 2: Residential Property Managers Association chair is Tony Mitchell is with us. Tony,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you. Good morning Mike. Is it

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Speaker 2: a renter's market right.

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Speaker 19: At the minute?

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Speaker 16: Yes, there are more properties on the market than there

782
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Speaker 16: is for our demand.

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Speaker 2: The level of variation depending on which part of the

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Speaker 2: market or the country, or the city or the suburb

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Speaker 2: you're looking at, is it vast or not.

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Speaker 16: Well, Look, I do think you need to take into

787
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Speaker 16: consideration not only the part of the country, but also

788
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 16: departs of the city because whilst rental prices have come

789
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Speaker 16: back probably from August twenty twenty four through to now,

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Speaker 16: it hasn't come back in some areas within Auckland. If

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Speaker 16: you look at some of the suburbs just on the

792
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Speaker 16: city fringe, they are still strong. But if you look

793
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Speaker 16: at it out west, if you look at out south,

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Speaker 16: those prices have certainly dropped. But we are seeing that

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Speaker 16: throughout New Zealand as well. But we do expect that

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Speaker 16: to only be a temporary thing because the underlying factors

797
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Speaker 16: for demand are quite strong. So you've still got strong

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Speaker 16: immigration as well. Coming through are.

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Speaker 2: The rule changes around being a landlord, helping or hindering broadly.

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Speaker 16: Look, I think in general they're a very positive things

801
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Speaker 16: and it will help making properties available. But the underlying

802
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Speaker 16: factors that have caused the oversupply, it's not due to

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Speaker 16: the changes that the government's put in place. It's mostly

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Speaker 16: due to the large number of new builds that have

805
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 16: hit the market.

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Speaker 13: Plus also tends.

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Speaker 16: Have been a little bit more conservative with making changes

808
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Speaker 16: because in the cost of living has gone up and

809
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Speaker 16: they are being very cautious about committing. We've also seen

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Speaker 16: some layoffs. I know you mentioned Wellington before you know Wellington.

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Speaker 16: The feedback from rental property managers and businesses down there

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Speaker 16: is that the layoffs within government has had an impact

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Speaker 16: as well. So it does vary. As you said, christ

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Speaker 16: Church is still strong, but they have had a good

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Speaker 16: supply of rental properties since the earthquakes, since the rebuilds,

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Speaker 16: so they haven't had the spikes in price inflation.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, Tony, appreciate your insight. Tony Mitchell, Residential Property

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Speaker 2: Managers Association Chairperson. We've been doing a little bit of

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Speaker 2: There's no new doorknobs. So I'm just saying, if you

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Speaker 2: Rents reflect a two speed economy recovering in the country.

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Speaker 2: Can it be an Otago Southland on a tear rents

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Speaker 2: to be on hold, hang up and we will text

869
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: you all the details. I hang up. There is no text.

870
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: I ring back, I'm on hold. Finally a person a

871
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: person in another country using English, but only just are

872
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: you owe us money? I say it's automatic, It's been

873
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: automatic forever. I don't know what to do, she says,

874
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: I see, the payment is due the eighteenth. Today was

875
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: the eighteenth, so it may be paid today. Why are

876
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: you ringing in text to me? Then I say, she

877
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: does know what to say. I ask whether the solves

878
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: the problem. She says it might do if the payment

879
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: is made. I ask what if it isn't. She says,

880
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: I will owe her money. I say, I don't know

881
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: what you want me to do. Can you see my

882
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: account the bank I use. Can you see anything that

883
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: is going on? She says she can't. So I ask

884
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: why are you bringing me and texting me? She says

885
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: because I owe her money. I ask if she is oversea?

886
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: She says, yes, she is. The call I was informed

887
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: at the start of the call is being recorded for

888
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: training purposes. I assume that must have started yesterday, because

889
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: there is no evidence of training anywhere at this particular

890
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: point in time. After several pauses, she says, Okay, thank you,

891
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: I said for what. She says goodbye? Is my bill paid?

892
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. Will they text me again? I don't know.

893
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: Is it possibly a scam? Could be? Will it be

894
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: a better experience because someone got trained? I doubt it was.

895
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: That fifteen minutes of my life I will never get back.

896
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: What do you think? Pasking now? Very good news. We

897
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: had Peter Gordon on the program last week and he

898
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: bought his balls in and I tasted one, absolutely del

899
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 2: there was We had a discussion off here. I probably

900
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't say this, but he's a little little side scoop.

901
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: The point of me telling you the story is that

902
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: he was going to the meatball Festival and Hastings over

903
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: the weekend and he won it. Now, he was a

904
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: special guest at the meatball festival, so immediately the question

905
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: is was it rigged. You ow't avite special guest rigged

906
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: contest walks away with the best ball.

907
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 18: And you know what they say about meatball festivals.

908
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: I certainly do, glend and I can't repeat it on

909
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: the radio. Anyway, I'm glad he won because it was

910
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: a fantastic meatball. But he told us the ingredients, and

911
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: one of the ingredients was nutmeg, and I tasted it

912
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: and they had a little bit of the yogurt and

913
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: it had some some pickle and had a lot going on.

914
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: And he said, I said, I said, I can't really

915
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: taste the nutmeg. He goes, it's interesting you should say that.

916
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: Because we were doing the taste testing the night before,

917
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: we can do the nutmeg. So he's gonna up the

918
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: nutmeg by the time he got the hastings. So anyway,

919
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: it all worked out well and Peter Gordon makes the

920
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: best meat balls in the country, as tasted here first

921
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 2: on The mic Hosking Breakfast.

922
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: New Zealand's Voice of Reason is Mike.

923
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better

924
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial, and rural news talks head be.

925
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: If you want to get ahead of the rest of us,

926
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: read Richard Prebble's piece this morning in the Herald about

927
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: the lunch program. It is so funny and yet so true. Also,

928
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: if I get time, I'll get this. There's a building

929
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: that Chris Bishop's got involved with as the minister. But

930
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: a building was denied permission and the reasons. It's everything

931
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: that's wrong with New Zealand. Meantime, Mike A meatballs the

932
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: same as results. Good question, Mike. Normally I agree with

933
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: your opinions and congratulate you for voicing them. But today

934
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: your comment about the dumb kids leaving school while the

935
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: smart one's going to university was short sighted and maybe offensive.

936
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: I don't think I said it that bluntly, but and

937
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: I certainly didn't mean it. If I didn't, I apologize

938
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: for that. But what I meant was when I was

939
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: at school, we had the Dunce class, and that's what

940
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: it was called. And the Dunce class wandered off, and

941
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: I was the only reason I remember it so distinctly

942
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: is I was sure I was in the Dunce class,

943
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: and I couldn't work out why I was to yeh,

944
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: why I wasn't going down to the local factory because

945
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: it was the local Muns factory down from Limbood High

946
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 2: and the Edmunds factory was just literally down the road.

947
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: And I thought, man, what I would give to go

948
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: down to the Edmuns factory and have a look at

949
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: the Inmuns factory because I was off doing something other

950
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: that I didn't want to do. So they sent them

951
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: off to give them an insight into what life was

952
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: like in a factory or a trade or working and

953
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: I thought that was a good way to do it,

954
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: because all the rest of us were told that unless

955
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: we got UI, we couldn't go to university, and if

956
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: we didn't go to university, we'd amount to nothing, blah

957
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: blah blah. So it's just an ongoing, long standing thing

958
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: that's been stuck in education for years that somehow your

959
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: channeled automatically into university and if you don't go to university,

960
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with you. So I'm the antithesis of that.

961
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 18: My one was called the Tree Transition to Work Class,

962
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 18: Yeah exactly. And so for four days of the six

963
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 18: day school timetable. You actually went out on.

964
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: Work experience and look what happened to you.

965
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 18: And so they asked me what I would like to

966
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 18: do for my work experience because other people in the

967
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 18: class were doing things like cleaning out the inside of

968
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 18: septic tanks, you know, helping out it old people's homes,

969
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 18: that sort of thing. And I said, I'd like to

970
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 18: be a musician, please.

971
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: And did you yes?

972
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 8: And are you no?

973
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: No? Twenty one minutes away from mates Mark Mitchell's and India,

974
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: staying up late and Jimmy Anderson is not in India,

975
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: and we'll be just getting up at the normal time.

976
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: But that makes it sound just a little more exciting,

977
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Politics Wednesday coming shortly. Interesting picture is emerging

978
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 2: around retail crime. Speaking of Mark Mitchell, overall reported incidents

979
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: are plateauing, but there is a fourteen percent rise and

980
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: threatening or intimidating behavior and eleven percent jump and serious

981
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: and violent behavior. It's more brazen and organized. Apparently this

982
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: data comes to is from a raw I hope I'm

983
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: saying that right. The retail crime reporting software. Anyway, the

984
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: co founder and bosses Phil Thompson said, we'll find out film.

985
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: I saying that, right, Good morning, Mike. It's Aura Aura

986
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: as in the Ring.

987
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, you.

988
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: Know the Aura Ring. Haven't you got Anura ring? Everyone's

989
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: got Anura ring with you?

990
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

991
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now that what I've taken from your stats is

992
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 2: that this is the hard core. So in other words,

993
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: all the opportunists, the people who just you know, take

994
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: their starlet and smash it into a window, they've gone.

995
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: Now because the government's cracked down, what's left of the

996
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: hard core? Is that fair or not?

997
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right.

998
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 9: We're seeing you repeat offenders are still causing the majority

999
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 9: of crime and retail stores, and those people are four

1000
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 9: times more likely to be violent or aggressive in carrying

1001
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 9: out those senses as well. So yeah, it's it's concerning

1002
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 9: because this is our frontline. Retail workers have are being

1003
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 9: abused and threatened with weapons day and day out.

1004
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: What's your breakdown and term if you've got one in

1005
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: terms of industry, geographic location, that you've got any patterns

1006
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: there or not.

1007
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, it's right across every retail store.

1008
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 12: You know.

1009
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 9: This is just what our retail workers have to deal

1010
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 9: with every day. And now we're talking about our kids,

1011
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 9: families and friends who are actually working in these stores.

1012
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 9: It's not the faceless supermarket giants or retail conglomerates. It's

1013
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 9: actually our frontline retail workers who are being threatened with weapons.

1014
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: Are we in a sort of a stuck position now,

1015
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: because part of the answer was, you know, you'd have

1016
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: an alarm or you have a body cam or whatever

1017
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: the case may be. Are these the sort of people

1018
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: with their knives and stuff that don't really care about

1019
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: that stuff.

1020
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, retails and places to do a great job at

1021
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 9: really focusing on those repeat defenders and retail crime generally.

1022
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 9: But you're right, it's people who are using this now

1023
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 9: as a tactic to get out of stores. And you know,

1024
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 9: one of the most recent examples, you know, someone when

1025
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 9: they'll stop said, I'm just going to reach into my

1026
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 9: bag and pull out a knife, you know, and you

1027
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 9: don't want that when you're dealing with that as a

1028
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 9: security god, a retail worker. But you know, this is

1029
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 9: a trend with se globally as well around violence.

1030
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm also assuming the police are rounding them up. And

1031
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: the last time we had this major discussion post COVID is,

1032
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: of course, you know, the police resources were an issue,

1033
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: and you know, rounding them up and doing something with

1034
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: them judicially was an issue. Is it a small number

1035
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: of people getting smaller or not?

1036
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, there is the highlights I suppose is that

1037
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 9: retailers are capturing this information and reporting it through to

1038
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 9: the police, and so there are is action being taken.

1039
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 9: And to your point, it is you know a small

1040
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 9: number of people who are doing this, but unfortunately that

1041
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 9: doing this as their full time job, often going store

1042
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 9: to store and like I said, using violence now as

1043
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 9: a tactic.

1044
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: Okay, good on your feel nice to talk to you

1045
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Phil Thompson, who's Aura CEO and co founder,

1046
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: I would look, I would ask him whether he's got

1047
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 2: some sort of you know, issue with the Aura ring.

1048
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 18: Well, when you say that everybody's got an Aura ring,

1049
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 18: everyone's got an Aura ring. I know that. I know

1050
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 18: that you know one person who has no, No, he's

1051
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 18: the one person I know who has no no.

1052
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: Look look at ESPN, Look at ESPN internationally. Everybody's got

1053
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: around in New Zealand there they're a bit cutting edge, still,

1054
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: you reckon.

1055
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 18: Well, no, it's just that there are lots of different

1056
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 18: brands of small.

1057
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: Aura was the original though wasn't it, And they updated

1058
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: in the interesting thing I found out about the Ura ring.

1059
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: And I may or may not be speaking from personal experience.

1060
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: Here were a person I know, but the thing's.

1061
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 18: The same person was responsible for the interior design of

1062
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 18: the ring tool that left the knobs off the doors.

1063
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: But the thing about it is is that you become

1064
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: reliant on the information in the morning. So if you

1065
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: don't know what we're talking about, which wouldn't be the

1066
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: first time on this program, in the morning you get

1067
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: just endless amounts of data as to how you sleep went,

1068
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: how your day went, and your blood pressure and your

1069
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: heart rate and your sleep patterns and your deep sleep

1070
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. But it's developing technology,

1071
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: and what happens is that people become very reliant and

1072
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: they go, oh, I got to ninety two or I

1073
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: got an eighty seven, and oh my god, my day's

1074
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: over and I can't function anymore because the number is

1075
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 2: not right and the line is read and it's not blue,

1076
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: and I need to change my life, and so it

1077
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: goes on. So I think we're becoming slightly slavish to

1078
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: technology that may or may not be because my understanding

1079
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: of the Aura Ring. The original material around it was

1080
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: you were supposed to be a sort of a thirty

1081
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: five year old, So it's all leveraged off a thirty

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Speaker 2: five year old and a bit of an athlete. So

1083
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: if you're a thirty five year old athlete, you'll find

1084
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: yourself doing remarkably well. If you're not a thirty five

1085
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: year old athlete, it'll be giving you information that you

1086
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,479
Speaker 2: may or may not find beneficial or useful.

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00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 18: I mean, I've tried the Samsung Galaxy Ring, which is

1089
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 18: a similar sort of the thing.

1090
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: Did it tell you to what and move faster?

1091
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 18: What happens is you wake up in the morning less

1092
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 18: and you think, oh, that was a terrible night sleeper,

1093
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 18: and yet's terrible, and then you look it up in

1094
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 18: the app and it goes, yep, no, you're right, that

1095
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 18: was terrible.

1096
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: Here is your energy score sixteen to.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

1098
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: by the News Talks It Be.

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00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: Earlier this week, I was opining what labour used to

1100
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: be many years ago under the David Cagles, Richard Prebble's,

1101
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: Mike Morresfield gofs et CETERA completely different labour Party, and

1102
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: Prebble still writes for the Herald, free school lunches are

1103
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: a solution looking for a problem. There's this opening line,

1104
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: which is what I've been trying to say on the

1105
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: program for ages. You could have saved yourself all the

1106
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: morning or the wining gay. You don't like it, You're

1107
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: not having it. It's canceled. Trump would have done it. Treasury.

1108
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: They did a report rights Richard Prebble this morning in

1109
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Program had no effect on attendance and

1110
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: provided a little benefit for MARI students, both reasons given

1111
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: at the time to introduce it. Only the looney left

1112
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: could think free food is the answer to obesity. This

1113
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: is the other point he makes most kid sales. Too

1114
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: many kids are obese. We have one of the highest

1115
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: A b CD rates in the world. I live in

1116
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 2: one of the poorest neighborhoods in New Zealand, he writes.

1117
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: My neighbors, despite financial struggles, feed their children. We have

1118
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: increasing child poverty because of a cigarette taxes, paid almost

1119
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: exclusively by the poor. The middle class of quit smoking.

1120
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 2: A packet of twenty cigarettes cost thirty seven dollars fifty seven,

1121
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: enough to buy a breakfast in school lunt for a week.

1122
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: The number of pupils who are hungry is tiny compared

1123
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: to the number of people who are overweight. Free school

1124
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: lunches were never for the pupils, but to buy their parents'

1125
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: votes by having the taxpayer finder chore. My nine year

1126
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: old grandson brings home some uneaten lunches to test. I've

1127
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: eaten the returns. Both Labor and David Seymore's lunches are

1128
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: bland but edible. A hungry child would eat them. An

1129
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: outrage school principal complaining the lunches were the same for

1130
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: eleven days. I had the same lunch for eleven years.

1131
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: Every mass free lunch program will be blanned and have

1132
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: enormous waste. The only difference will be the cost of

1133
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: the pig food produced. I mean, come on, why didn't

1134
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: David Seymour say that about three months ago and say

1135
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: don't worry about it's canceled. Quick poll by the way

1136
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: out yesterday in Australia that I'll talk to Steve about

1137
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: are really interesting because it's going to be a hung parliament.

1138
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: The balance of power is going to be held by

1139
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: these teals, these independents, and the poll out yesterday and

1140
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: all the individual electorates of these independents said overwhelmingly anywhere

1141
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: between seventy six, seventy seven seventy eight percent. I want

1142
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: to know who you're going to support if you're holding

1143
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: the balance of power. What's interesting about that is one

1144
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: they've not dealt with us before. We have. It's called

1145
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: New Zealand First. The Peter's ants has always been we'll

1146
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: let the voters speak first. In other words, we'll hold

1147
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: you in abeyance and hold you to ransom. So Australia

1148
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: is now dealing with this for the first time. So

1149
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: more with Steve Shortley, tend Away.

1150
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking, Breakfast with the Range, Rover, Villa.

1151
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: News Talk Dead b excuse me, just finishing the last

1152
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: of the artichokes. Seven away from eight. We've hooked up

1153
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: with Minecraft New Zealand. This is it's apparently as the

1154
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: world first. Players can now explore our country on this game.

1155
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: You'll see the White Timer, caves Able, Tasman, Techapo, They've

1156
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 2: all been given the Minecraft treatment. It's expected to generate

1157
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: fifty million bucks in equivalent advertising value. It reaches seventy

1158
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: million people allegedly, Tourism New Zealand General Manager of Marketing,

1159
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: Brady McLeish's well, u's brody morning.

1160
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 20: Good morning mate.

1161
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 2: Whose idea was this? How does this stuff come about?

1162
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 20: Well, we had an opportunity through the New Zealand Film

1163
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 20: Mission to partner with Warner Brothers and Mojang on the

1164
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 20: release of their new Minecraft movie, and that's essentially how

1165
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 20: it came out. Through the screen production rebate program, we

1166
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 20: were able to work alongside them to create this brand

1167
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 20: new If you say world first destination New Zealand Minecraft world.

1168
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: Does it look like it? I mean it disabled Tasman,

1169
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: look like able Tasman or not?

1170
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 20: It does. Obviously Minecraft is a pixelated world, but we

1171
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 20: have been working to make sure that it looks as

1172
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 20: beautiful as a representation of those destinations that we have

1173
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 20: here in New Zealand, and working in collaboration with eleven

1174
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Speaker 20: month of Fenawa groups, the tourism industry and obviously the

1175
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 20: developers of Minecraft, which are most Mojang studios, to make

1176
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 20: this a really exceptional experience.

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Speaker 2: Again, if you're playing Minecraft, you will come across this.

1178
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: This is how I understand it.

1179
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Speaker 20: Basically, if you're playing Mind of which there is a

1180
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 20: huge a number of people monthly, about one hundred and

1181
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 20: seventy million people across the world monthly. Play this game,

1182
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 20: you will be able to download the New Zealand world

1183
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 20: for free into your Minecraft game.

1184
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: Would you want to do that? Would you go, oh,

1185
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: this is good, I'll do that. Is that the sort

1186
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: of thing that would you would do?

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Speaker 20: Well, it's a pretty impressive game. I'm not sure if

1188
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 20: you've had a chance to jump in this morning and Mike,

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00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 20: Mike can have a play with it, but it's a

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 20: pretty impressive game. And as I'd say, it's free to

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Speaker 20: all users, so it's something that people would want to

1192
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 20: jump in and download and have a play around with.

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Speaker 2: Where do you get your numbers from? Or is I

1194
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: mean fifty million dollars in equivalent advertising? How do you

1195
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: work that out?

1196
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: So basically we are really looking here to drive growth

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Speaker 20: to New Zealand's economy right through through tourism. So we

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Speaker 20: look at what it would take for us to spend

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 20: this and paid advertising equivalent advertising value essential to get

1201
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 20: this sort of reach.

1202
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, well super excited. Have you played it?

1203
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 16: I have?

1204
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 18: I have.

1205
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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's an awesome game, features, you know, lots of

1206
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 20: our most amazing places across New Zealand, my time at Caves, Tapulia,

1207
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 20: Kapiti Island, Abele Tasman and Tikapo. So it's just an

1208
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 20: amazing representation of New Zealand. Essentially, you know, we want

1209
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 20: people to play the game and then come and play

1210
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 20: for real in New Zealand. Yeah, so that's the that's

1211
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 20: the whole premise of what we're doing here.

1212
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Speaker 2: Fantastic go well with appreciated Brodie McLeish's with tourism New Zealand.

1213
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: I got the reason I didn't go on the Minecraft

1214
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: this morning is I got a big box of the

1215
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: qbis from the Walworths because they heard you how much

1216
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: you love them. Yeah, it's the stupid style you I've

1217
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: ever seen. So they sent me at all for free,

1218
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: but I have passed it on to is it is.

1219
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 16: Believe it might?

1220
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: Andwers on the hot desk next to me And.

1221
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 18: Is there a collector's case in there?

1222
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: I heard them does everything in there?

1223
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 14: I think the.

1224
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 18: Idea was because you were complaining about what a mess

1225
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 18: it had made of your hot desk. Yeah, he can

1226
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 18: now bung them in the case and then it won't

1227
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 18: be such a mess.

1228
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: I had to stop. What Sam said, was let's click

1229
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: it all and put it on trade me And I said, Sam,

1230
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: I think, I said, I think, I said Sam, I

1231
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: think that's probably illegal. I don't think we can take

1232
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: free stuff that we get and sell it. And Sam goes, no,

1233
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: it's a really good idea, Let's do it. And I

1234
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: said no, Sam. So therefore I couldn't get on Minecraft

1235
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Speaker 2: because I was too busy posing Sam the oh, you

1236
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: didn't have a chance to jump into micraft no chance.

1237
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: Flat acting politics Wednesday next.

1238
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: My caskame was insaateful, engaging and vitally the mic casking

1239
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: breakfast with Vida Retirement Communities, Life your Way News.

1240
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: Tog said, be su quick in developing. Who's just addressing

1241
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: the Israeli people. The strikes quote unquote just the beginning.

1242
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: Combat is now resumed with full force, and we'll continue

1243
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: with full force until Hamas quote unquote no longer posed threat.

1244
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: So that's the ceasefire. Peace deals blown to a million pieces. Meantime,

1245
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: Trump on truth Social My phone conversation today with Putin

1246
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: of Russia was very good and very productive. Were agreed,

1247
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: we know what it is agreed to. This war would

1248
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: never have happened if I was President blah blah blah.

1249
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: The process is now in full force and effect and

1250
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: we will hopefully for the safe of humanity to get

1251
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: the job done. So he's spinning hard because a partial

1252
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: ceasefire is not a false fire. So they will go

1253
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: to the Saudi Arabian region and have a word. Now,

1254
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: this coy fair, this is really any birdy care I

1255
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: would have said that's way long Jenny's when it's not

1256
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: because he's dead. Jason Boland and the Stragglers and the

1257
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: old one is called the Last Kings of Batlon. It's

1258
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: the eleventh record, Little classic Country, little blue Grass, little

1259
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: Southern Rock. It's retrospected. This a reflection of everywhere we've

1260
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: been in everything we've learned out of the past twenty

1261
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: five years on the road. We have ourselves ten songs

1262
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: and only thirty seven minutes and twenty seconds of music,

1263
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: which is I didn't learn a lot then, did they really? Time?

1264
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: Now for politics Wednesday? Mark Mitchell's with us from India

1265
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: and Ginny Anderson's with us from the Hut.

1266
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 17: Ministeriesger good morning, good morning money mate.

1267
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: Am I correct in saying Mark, you are there in

1268
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: your role Indigenous communities Minister.

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 17: Of Ethnic Communities and also sport and Rex So sports

1270
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 17: been a big part of the discussions over here. We

1271
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 17: signed a memorandum of cooperation and Prime Minister Modium himself.

1272
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 17: We had lunch with him yesterday and a big chunk

1273
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 17: of our conversation was around sport.

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01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: Have you won on one with them?

1275
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, we had.

1276
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 17: I had lunch.

1277
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: I was very lucky.

1278
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 17: I came out in twenty sixteen with Sir John Key

1279
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 17: and had lunch and said at the same table as him,

1280
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 17: and the same thing happened this time around with Chris

1281
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 17: so No. I had some really good time with him.

1282
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 17: And like I said, he's very interested in sport. He's

1283
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 17: trying to roll out sport and get a big focus

1284
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 17: on sport in India, and he sees that there's a

1285
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 17: lot that we can do that they want to do

1286
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 17: with New Zealand.

1287
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: Was he getting some tips from the Black Caps? I

1288
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: would have thought they already had that cricket. Pretty good

1289
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: at cricket.

1290
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 17: They're pretty good at cricket, but he wants to broaden

1291
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 17: that base and get them And funnily enough, they had

1292
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 17: the captain of the Indian rugby team there and rugby

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Speaker 17: something that they really want to focus on.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. He has a they say an X factor of charisma.

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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, without a doubt, Absolutely without a doubt, And that

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Speaker 17: has grown the first time that I met him back

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Speaker 17: in twenty sixteen. He is a relatively new leader. He's

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Speaker 17: been doing the job for a while and I noticed

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Speaker 17: a big difference, you know. But without a doubt, he's

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Speaker 17: got a real presence about him.

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Speaker 2: All right now, Jenny, as far as you're concerned, I

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Speaker 2: can cover off a bunch of stuff. Barbara Edmonds who

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Speaker 2: spoke to the investment conference last week, and there's very

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Speaker 2: good piece of you, the piece in the Where Was It? Newsroom?

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Speaker 2: If you read the piece labor and PPPs, your stance

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Speaker 2: on PPPs seems to have come and gone change, twisted

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Speaker 2: up and down, black and right and wrong. Do you

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Speaker 2: have a definitive position on PPPs or not?

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Speaker 11: We do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: We don't like them for things like schools and prisons

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Speaker 11: and also hospital so areas where these public services provided

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Speaker 11: not a big thing. But we have been pretty clear

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Speaker 11: about the fact that if National goes into a deal

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Speaker 11: and does one, we won't wind it back. As it

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Speaker 11: happened over the last year or so, because what we

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Speaker 11: saw was a whole lot of construction workers leaving New

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Speaker 11: Zealand thirteen thousand and that's not good for economy, not

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Speaker 11: good for jobs in wages. So we won't do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so, but part of it also says if there

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Speaker 2: is a benefit to New Zealand, what if they can

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Speaker 2: say I don't know a school and they can show

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Speaker 2: a benefit to New Zealand. Does that negate the nose

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Speaker 2: schools thing or does the or not?

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Speaker 11: No, we don't think. We think there are some basic

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Speaker 11: things like schools, prisons, hospitals where we don't agree with PPPs.

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Speaker 17: Okay, well, what if you had an e we come

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Speaker 17: forward and say that they wanted to do a PPP

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Speaker 17: with the government on a school.

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Speaker 11: Look, there are there. We think there are some fundamental areas.

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Speaker 11: We don't like charter schools. We have charter schools already.

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Speaker 11: If people do that, but in our view that there

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Speaker 11: are some basic public services we're making a profit out

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Speaker 11: of them doesn't help them. School lunchers would be a

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Speaker 11: great example where you had something that was being provided

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Speaker 11: by locally. You've got a big provider coming in making

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Speaker 11: a profit from it, and a lot of those times

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Speaker 11: they fall over when you're providing a public good.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you raised the charter schools because in the

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Speaker 2: hip hocn speech the other day he said, we're not

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Speaker 2: going to be a government that just goes in and

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Speaker 2: cancels everything like this current government has. And yet he

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Speaker 2: was the bloke who, for ideological reasons, only went and

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Speaker 2: canceled the charter schools last time. So has he changed

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Speaker 2: his mind on that stuff or clearly not.

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Speaker 11: I think we've new Zealanders are tired of flicking back

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Speaker 11: from one thing to the other.

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Speaker 2: Yes, every three years.

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Speaker 11: Yes we have some fundamental ideological problems, but it's also

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Speaker 11: important that we keep making progress as a country. And

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Speaker 11: we're just going to be helped back if we keep

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Speaker 11: flicking back and forwards. So if there's a big project

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Speaker 11: that's in play, that is working okay, and there's some

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Speaker 11: good things there, we're not going to undo it just

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Speaker 11: for the sake of saying, well.

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Speaker 2: So you could say this morning, so the charter school's

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Speaker 2: up and operating now, So they'll be up and operating

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Speaker 2: for at least two years by the time if you

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Speaker 2: got to government, for example, in twenty twenty six, So

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Speaker 2: you would leave those alone.

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Speaker 11: I'm not going to make education policy on news talks.

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Speaker 11: You'd be, But my understanding is the way we want

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Speaker 11: to proceed. If there's a big thing in place and

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Speaker 11: it's working, okay, we're not going to unearth it.

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Speaker 17: And this is the exact problem that we've got with

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Speaker 17: you at the moment, because we've tried to send you

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Speaker 17: really clear messages to.

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Speaker 11: Mark, don't even start you. Look what you've done in

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Speaker 11: terms of the infrastructure projects that you under.

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Speaker 17: Let me finish, really finish me, let me finish, Ginny.

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Speaker 17: You can't even be unequivocal about whether or not charter

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Speaker 17: schools are going to Stone. You're just giving us some

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Speaker 17: big lecture that we can't keep dropping back and forward.

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Speaker 2: No, you didn't.

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Speaker 17: You just said that you're not going to get into

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Speaker 17: education policy. We'll get into it. You just said that

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Speaker 17: you're not going to flip flop, and now you're saying, well, actually,

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Speaker 17: you can't say whether you will keep charter schools.

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Speaker 2: And this is the problem, not the problem that we have.

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Speaker 2: You're all over them.

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Speaker 11: Stood up pretty clearly and stated that if there's big

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Speaker 11: projects that have gone ahead, and that's why we sent

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Speaker 11: labor MPs into your into the big infrastructure talk with

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Speaker 11: investment firms that if New Zealand needs some big investment,

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Speaker 11: and we've sent people there to give a strong message

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Speaker 11: out to those international partners that we support of if

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Speaker 11: they give us jobs, if they give us wages, and

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Speaker 11: they're good for New Zealanders, but we need to keep

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Speaker 11: an eye on the fact that if big companies are

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Speaker 11: just going to come into New Zealand, carve off large

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Speaker 11: bits of infrastructure own themselves and charge keywis for using

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Speaker 11: them forever in a day, we need to be cautious

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Speaker 11: of those details and how I play it, all right, just.

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Speaker 2: Brief break more in a moment, Mark Mitchell and India,

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson more shortly four Team Past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, cow it

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B Used Talks, seventeen Past Day, Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday. Mark, You'll know the answer to this. This

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Speaker 2: is on social media. You know Ben Thomas, the guy

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Speaker 2: who used to work for the National Parties. It was

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Speaker 2: out right. So he's on the he's on the X

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Speaker 2: and it says incredible credible effort reports bish this is Bishop.

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Speaker 2: Christopher was handing out medals at the week Box Kids

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Speaker 2: Triathlon Sunday morning in a New Zealand Month T shirt,

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Speaker 2: Music Month T shirt and jeans. He may not have

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Speaker 2: even been home between home Grind and Mere New He

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Speaker 2: sets is Chris Bishop, the sort of person who would

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Speaker 2: stay out all night having watched a bit of music

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Speaker 2: to hand out medals the next morning.

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Speaker 17: He loves he loves seat, I know that, and absolutely

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Speaker 17: he'd turned up the next for the week Books Kids.

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Speaker 17: It's such a great event. So you know he's put

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Speaker 17: a lot of work into this international investment summit as well.

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Speaker 17: I just want to say one thing really quickly, like

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Speaker 17: we should be really proud of our Prime minister. He

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Speaker 17: has done us proud up here. We've still got a

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Speaker 17: couple more days to go, but we are back at

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Speaker 17: the table for an f t A with India, which

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Speaker 17: is huge for US as a country.

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Speaker 8: With there's lots of global headlines.

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Speaker 17: You know, our Prime minister is getting on with solutions

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Speaker 17: and getting things done, whereas the other side, labor are

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Speaker 17: just confused about what they want to do. And we're

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Speaker 17: not even.

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Speaker 11: Come on, we got we're not even UK big.

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Speaker 17: Deal, not even we're not even paying much attention moment.

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Speaker 17: We're just we're just getting on and getting things done.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 11: I would like to respond to that if I could

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Speaker 11: free trade deal with the EU and the UK. They

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Speaker 11: were fundamental and.

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Speaker 2: We all see you to be fair journy as crap.

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Speaker 2: But but the UK ones a winner. There's no that's

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Speaker 2: gold stand, no question.

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Speaker 11: I don't have to say. On top of that, China

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Speaker 11: took a long time, but the deal with Yes.

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Speaker 2: You labor for forever, got got in bed with the Chinese.

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Speaker 2: That is true. By the way, do you need to

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Speaker 2: be she had fan to be successful and you're part

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Speaker 2: of the world, Jenny as a local MP is that

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Speaker 2: part of the uh help?

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Speaker 11: But there are many other excellent bands as well as

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Speaker 11: she had, which I would vouch for.

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Speaker 2: Mark, can you stop muting yourself? I mean, for goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: it's every week he's on he's on his cheek, his

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Speaker 2: cheek on his phone, he goes Hello Hello. He's sitting

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Speaker 2: there as an Indian Hotels going Hello Hello. Muted him myself, Genny,

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Speaker 2: while we're waiting for him to unmute himself. In a

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Speaker 2: boomst and a boomer type moment, it's white to tea

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Speaker 2: and this he ut Sorry, sorry, sorry, it's mad. It's embarrassing, Chubby.

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Speaker 11: I don't even get to talk about that Indian Free

1454
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Speaker 11: Trade agreement. He cot me on.

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Speaker 2: Anyway back home, But Jenny, back home, White to Tea,

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Speaker 2: giving Seymour a good effing hiding, is it? Do they

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Speaker 2: get a free pass? If you'd said that, would you

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Speaker 2: be in more trouble than hy t t appears to

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Speaker 2: be well.

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Speaker 11: I think they've got a fear bit of coverage style.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if they did get into trouble from

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Speaker 11: what I saw.

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't. That's my point. It seems that if

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Speaker 2: you're in the Maori Party you can do anything, say anything,

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Speaker 2: and nothing comes out of its useless, isn't he absolutely hopeless?

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Speaker 17: Definitely, the WI keeps dropping out.

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Speaker 2: So what have I missed? Probably not speaking to be honest, Thanks, Mark.

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Speaker 17: I'll just just be honest.

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Speaker 8: It's always vigorous.

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Speaker 11: No, we're talking about David Seymour and and the Maori

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Speaker 11: Party and the the lawns, so that often I told

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Speaker 11: you what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: You're on hold, Mark, Sorry, carry on, Jenny, I'm not disappearing.

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Speaker 11: Look, I would never have said that, and I don't

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Speaker 11: think it's a great idea at all, but I think

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Speaker 11: they've got a fear bit of coverage and people genuinely

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Speaker 11: thought that that was unacceptable. So I don't know if

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Speaker 11: he got away with it.

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Speaker 12: I think not.

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Speaker 11: Dave David Seymore pretty much waded straight in there. But

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Speaker 11: it gets to the point when it's those two I

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Speaker 11: think most people kind of just switch off because it's

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Speaker 11: those two.

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Speaker 4: Editor again, what.

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Speaker 2: Do you say just quickly before?

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Speaker 17: Well, no one likes No one likes bullies, do they,

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Speaker 17: Ginny so? And this is bullying behavior without a doubt.

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Speaker 17: And I think that in this country at the moment

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Speaker 17: where in our country we've got too much violent crime

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Speaker 17: to deal with and people should learn to keep their

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Speaker 17: hands themselves, and to have a member of Parliament coming

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Speaker 17: out and saying they want to give someone a hiding

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Speaker 17: to me and my view, is just totally unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: Is part of it mark that we don't take them seriously?

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Speaker 2: It's just it's them again? Is there a bit of

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Speaker 2: that about it?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 17: I think well that's a big part of it. I

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Speaker 17: can tell you now that if a national MP came

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Speaker 17: out and said something like me, you would be all

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Speaker 17: over it they'll be calling for resignations. But for some reason,

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Speaker 17: because it's the married part either yet given a free ticket.

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Speaker 2: Super quick, Jinny given Chris was on the radio with

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Speaker 2: our Wellington people saying you couldn't find a Wellington candidate

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Speaker 2: for the mayor. Should parties in general this is the

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Speaker 2: act story. Should parties in general be involved in local

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Speaker 2: body politics?

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Speaker 11: Oh that's a tough one. At the pros and cons.

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Speaker 11: There are some good reasons at it because it actually

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Speaker 11: helps me more organized on the ground, and I've seen

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Speaker 11: that in the hearts. We've done quite well having good,

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Speaker 11: strong candidates out here. But it needs to fit. They

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01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 11: need to that you know that they want to be

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Speaker 11: part of that party and the party needs to want them.

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Speaker 11: So if that's all working well, it can go really well.

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Speaker 11: I don't think it's essential. I think you can do

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Speaker 11: it without it.

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Speaker 2: So all right, Mark, you off to bed.

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Speaker 17: Yes, yeah, I'm up in a bit four us. We've

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Speaker 17: got a very early start yet to get up to

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Speaker 17: Bomboy today.

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Speaker 2: Good on you go. Well, we'll catch up next week.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Mark Mitchell, Jinny and is in eight twenty.

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Speaker 1: Two The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news

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Speaker 1: talks did.

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Speaker 2: Be now going Snail's person the old motorway pretty frustrating

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Speaker 2: for most of us, but if you're thinking glass half

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Speaker 2: full for a moment, if you're a business, the graphics

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Speaker 2: graphics on the old vehicle when they're going slide, that's

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Speaker 2: a good thing. See see Speedy Signs, which are the

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Speaker 2: country's biggest national signage company. They say that when you've

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Speaker 2: got a good signage on the old vehicle, your brand

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Speaker 2: is always out there. Your car, your truck literally becomes

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Speaker 2: a mobile billboard, which is especially good if you're around

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Speaker 2: town a bit now if you need to do some

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Speaker 2: target at advertising, for example you're opening a new shop

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Speaker 2: or run, holding an event, having your sign written vehicles

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Speaker 2: seen in the areas creates great awareness, a little bit

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Speaker 2: of buzz and being a national signage company Speedy Signs

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Speaker 2: they take care of your entire fleet of vehicles no

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Speaker 2: matter where in the country you are. So from simple

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Speaker 2: but clear contact details on doors to the full graphic

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Speaker 2: wraps covering every panel no problem for Speedy Signs. They

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Speaker 2: do the lot eight hundred Speedy eight hundred Speedy or

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Speaker 2: online at Speedy Signs dot Co. Dots m Z taskyme.

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Speaker 2: I was watching Jim Charmers yesterday giving a speech. Part

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01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: of the speech was a build up to the budget.

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Speaker 2: The cycle loan of a week or so back a

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01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: couple of weeks back has stuck a one point two

1550
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: billion dollar hole in that particular budget, and so he's

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Speaker 2: going to be running a deficit of about twenty seven

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, which is going out to forty six billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: So they are swimming in a sea of red, and

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Speaker 2: they've got an election campaign coming up. So we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that and more with a Stephen Price after the News,

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Speaker 2: which is next. Here are the my casting.

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Speaker 1: Rooms, news opinion and everything in between, the mic hosting

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Speaker 1: break best with the range rovervila designed to intrigue and

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Speaker 1: use tog dead b do read.

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Speaker 2: By the way, in reference to Jinny Marke, a couple

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Speaker 2: of mimes ago a newsroom article on on Labour's PPPs

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Speaker 2: in their relationship with PPPs. She's a lengthy old number

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Speaker 2: because that's sort of what newsroom do. But it quotes

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Speaker 2: Barbara Edmonds, who was at the Big Investment conference the

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Speaker 2: other day the party's position on PPP's nuanced. She says,

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Speaker 2: so it is communicated at different ways to different audiences.

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: The party, she says, could have been clearer with different

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Speaker 2: communication tools. You use different language, do you anyway well

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Speaker 2: worth reading to try and sort of fathom as to

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Speaker 2: where they may or may not be. On PPPs twenty

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Speaker 2: three minutes away.

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Speaker 4: From nine International Correspondence with Endsit Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 4: Mind for New Zealand, Business and Australia.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Price, very good morning to you and you. I

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01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: was watching Jim Chalmers yesterday. I can't remember where he was.

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: He was in Queensland, but anyway, he had some protesters

1577
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: come along and interrupt them, and he was talking about

1578
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Speaker 2: Elfred and how much damage that's done to the budget

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Speaker 2: and this budget. And they're having this budget because the

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Speaker 2: election's late, and it's late because of the weather, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But the deficit they're running surely that makes them look inept,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it or.

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Speaker 12: Not well, governments around the country running huge deficits, and

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Speaker 12: I think the public has been largely shielded from the

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01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 12: fact that if you've got a government that can't have

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Speaker 12: a surplus, then it's a bad government. I mean what

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Speaker 12: Anthony Alvenz in Jim Charmers wanted to do prior to

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 12: Alfred was to not have a budget and go to

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Speaker 12: an election on the twelfth of April and they could

1590
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Speaker 12: then say, well, look what we've done over the last

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 12: two budgess A had a surplus. Now those surpluses are false,

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01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 12: false surpluses. They've come because there's been a massive amounts

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01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 12: of immigration and be mining royalties have exploded, and so

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Speaker 12: they had a huge amount of money and so they've

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01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 12: managed to sneak through it with a surplus that they

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 12: would not have otherwise. And so the chickens have come

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Speaker 12: home to roost. For this budget, it will be in deficit,

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Speaker 12: will be handed down next week. But the general public

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Speaker 12: are just interested in ways to stop the cost of

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Speaker 12: living hurting them week by week with their age packet.

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 12: They're not concerned at all whether the government has debt.

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01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 12: They're worried about their own debt.

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: Thistton idea on a referendum. Is this going to happen

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01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 2: or it might happen? And how many people, as I

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01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 2: written one article yesterday from his own party, is saying

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Kill it now, Well.

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Speaker 12: I think they're stupid, because I think it's very clever

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 12: because what there will never be a referendum. We will

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 12: not have a referendum on whether if you are a

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01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 12: dual citizenship, so born overseas come to Australia, retain your

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 12: overseas passport and get an Australian passport. What Peter Dutton

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01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 12: wants is the ability to throw someone with two passports

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01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 12: out of the country in simple terms, if they commit crimes,

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01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 12: taken out of the hands of judges and given to

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 12: the Minister presumably of Immigration. Now this is all over

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01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 12: that High Court decision last year. We've got a bunch

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Speaker 12: of really bad crooks, rapists, murderers, child molesters who are

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Speaker 12: out in the public because the court decided that they

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01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 12: could not be held indefinitely in tension. So that's what

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Speaker 12: Dutton's talking about. The reason I say it's clever it

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Speaker 12: allows him over the next four or five six weeks

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Speaker 12: to talk every day about the issue of people breaking

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Speaker 12: the law, who are migrants to this country, who he says,

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Speaker 12: hate the country and don't want to become true in

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Speaker 12: law abiding Australians. Now he's going to wedge labor on it.

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Speaker 12: I mean Labour's already screaming we don't want another referendum,

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Speaker 12: we can't do this, and you've got judges and you've

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Speaker 12: got professors in universities coming out and saying I don't

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Speaker 12: think Australia wants to go down that path. Bona fide

1630
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 12: is of the court of being questioned because lawyers and

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01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 12: judges hate power being taken away from them. I think

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Speaker 12: it's very clever or Dunton. The referendum will never happen,

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01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 12: but it allows him to keep that question on the

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01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 12: front page day after day after day.

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Speaker 2: Appary Shades of America, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely? And when you see planeloads of Venezuelans in the

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01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 12: hoods being flown out of the country and dropped in

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Speaker 12: the third country on the way back to wherever they

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Speaker 12: came from. I think a lot of people in suburban

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Speaker 12: Australia who are at the moment in the group of

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 12: a crime crisis sitting there saying to themselves, well, why

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Speaker 12: can't we do that?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of crime, I was watching the Kayla Cash. Dutton

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Speaker 2: was there, but MICHAELA. Cash. She's an interesting visual treat,

1645
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: isn't she.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a very polite way to put it.

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, she's doing this thing the other day

1648
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Speaker 2: about this corruption. I mean, are they wedging the government

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Speaker 2: on this as well? This racketeering legislator. This is the

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Speaker 2: mafia that runs construction in Australia and they want to

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Speaker 2: do something about it. And I just can't work out

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01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: why the Labor government wouldn't say, yes, we're boots in

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01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: it all other than the fact that they're funded by

1654
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: these very crocs.

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Speaker 12: Well exactly, the CFM you are the major donus to

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01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 12: the Labor party in state and federal politics, write out

1657
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 12: checks to them every election and that's why. And so

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Speaker 12: the CFMEU and their connections to labor run very deep.

1659
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 12: And we have had the Age newspaper and Channel nine

1660
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Speaker 12: to sixty minutes doing a fantastic job on actually spelling

1661
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 12: out how bad this corruption is on building sites around

1662
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Speaker 12: Victoria in particular, but also around the rest of the country.

1663
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 12: And so when people read what the union's been up

1664
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 12: to and they're using biking gang members as standover men,

1665
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 12: people are being abused on work sites. But more than that,

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Speaker 12: they're extorting money out of governments, particularly state governments, to

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Speaker 12: ensure that building projects are unionized. And the build goes

1668
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 12: on without disruption. But the union then decides, Okay, we're

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01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 12: only going to work full days. We're going to shut

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Speaker 12: down for this week. We're not going to do that,

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Speaker 12: and as she pace more money. It is basically old

1672
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 12: style mafia that are running the building sites. And you know,

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01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 12: do we want to copy American laws? Well if they work,

1674
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 12: yes we do because at the moment all of these

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01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 12: building projects are over budget and over time now.

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Speaker 2: But to remind people, because this was the story, it

1677
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 2: started last year and the Labor Party at the time,

1678
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: including just Ciner Ellen, who's the Premier of Victoria, said,

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Speaker 2: will you know where we'll put them into administration? Problem solve?

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01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: Don't look anymore. And yet nothing seems to have changed.

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01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 12: Nothing's changed, The administrator can't get to the bottom of it.

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 12: He lives in a house which is now surrounded by

1683
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 12: armed guards because through his life and the bad old

1684
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 12: tactics of the union continue. I mean, anyone who thought

1685
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 12: that this was all just going to go away by

1686
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 12: sacking the union boss John Sector is completely naive. If

1687
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 12: it's not happened, and it continues to this day. CFMU

1688
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 12: flags fly across building sites right around the city that

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Speaker 12: I live in, and I know how corrupt they are.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. Hey, how'd your sling deboo go on, Telly?

1691
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Speaker 19: Not?

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01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 12: Well, they didn't like the color of it for a star,

1693
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 12: what color was it? It was a fuck a marone

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01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 12: and white, which I can understand why they wouldn't have

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01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 12: liked that. It had the name of my orthopedic surgeon

1696
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 12: on it. So this is a bloke of charges five

1697
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 12: grand o your shoulder operating? But what's free advertising on TV?

1698
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 12: So Channel ten has stuck Channel ten stickers all over

1699
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 12: his name. That would have disappointed him. So when I

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01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 12: go back to him, I'm in for trouble. Obviously it

1701
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 12: looks ridiculous and stupid, so I'm going to have to

1702
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 12: come up with another solution.

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01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep you posted. Go well this weekend

1704
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 2: and we'll see next week Casteve Price Out of Australia.

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01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 2: By the way, worth reading the CFM you think, essentially,

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 2: I mean, apart from what Steve All said, these guys

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01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: get jobs on the site. These union Slash Game members

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01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: get jobs on the site for ten thousand dollars a week.

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01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 2: They paid ten thousand dollars a week. Forty thousand dollars

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01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: a month, five hundred thousand dollars a year and what

1711
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: do they do for that money? Nothing? They don't turn up.

1712
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 2: They're just handed the mate. The level of corruption in

1713
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: Australia in the construction industry is eyewatering and well worth

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Speaker 2: reading and following sixteen to.

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Speaker 1: Two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm mentioning things to read. In the spinoff yesterday

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Speaker 2: by a guy called Liam Ratner covered off in excruciating

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Speaker 2: detail the absurdity of the Funarrai District Council and their

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Speaker 2: ongoing battle with the government over fluoridation. They went for

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Speaker 2: a judicial judgment yesterday that's been reserved, so will stand by.

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Speaker 2: They have backtracked. Originally they were not going to fluoridate

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Speaker 2: their water, but then they freaked out at the cost,

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Speaker 2: none of which they'd put aside, of course, because that

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01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: would take planning and foresight, but they didn't have any

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Speaker 2: of us. So anywhay. On Monday, one of the un

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Speaker 2: quoting one of the most chaotic and heated council meetings

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Speaker 2: in recent memories. The result more division, a mere fighting

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Speaker 2: off accusations of predetermination and councilors throwing around accusations of

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: government rape. So two pm before the councilors get to

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01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: the matter at hand, they had to untangle the mess

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01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 2: left by their previous attempt to discuss fluoridation. A scheduled

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01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: meeting last week was blocked when seven councilors refused to

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Speaker 2: allow it to be held behind closed doors. Mood was tense.

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Speaker 2: Ten past two the meeting quickly descended into a procedural

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Speaker 2: minefield as Councilor pauled Jovich attempted to add an amendment

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Speaker 2: that would immediately halt all legal proceedings in the associated costs.

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01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: By this point tensions be high. Councilor Marie Olsen was

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01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: visibly frustrated. Councilor Simon Reid talked about compliance and would

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Speaker 2: take make council as complicit with this aforementioned governmental rape.

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01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: By two forty five, what have we got? The Council

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01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: was already spending or had spent ninety three, four hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty six dollars excluding GST on legal fees. There

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01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: is no budget allocated for the costs of the Crown's

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01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: legal team at the WDC Losers in court on top

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Speaker 2: of that, the council risks losing four point five million

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Speaker 2: in government funding for fluoridation infrastructure, and estimated nine one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen hours of work, which is the equivalent

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01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: of one hundred and twenty two working days, had already

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Speaker 2: been spent on the issue. By three pm, A side

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01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: controversy emerged, accusations of predetermination against mister Cockrulo vince our

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01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: previous meetings, Cocarrula had stated quote I would go to

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01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: jail to stop the fluoridation of water. Council's legal team,

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01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: pops Up, ruled that the mayor's previous statements did not

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Speaker 2: legally prevent him from participating. Three twenty the final vote,

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01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: after an hour and twenty two on the debate, voted

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Speaker 2: on the original motion to comply as in the Director

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Speaker 2: of from Ashley Bloomfield, Director of only until the court

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01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: ruled otherwise, which they haven't because they've reserved it as

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Speaker 2: I've just said. The amendment to drop legal proceedings was

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01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: defeated seven to six. Cocka ruler, using his casting vote

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01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 2: to break the tie, meaning the WDC will begin floridation

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01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: preparations but will stop if the interim relief is granted

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01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: in the court, so we stand by there. So that's

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01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 2: the sort of crap that's going on in the local

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Speaker 2: body politics at the moment, and you're paying for it.

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Speaker 2: And you wonder why no one wants to stand and

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Speaker 2: you wonder why the Labor Party can't find a candidate

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Speaker 2: in Wellington, and you wonder why nobody turns up. Don't

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Speaker 2: make it up. Nine minutes away from.

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Speaker 2: beginnings to a position now as the country's largest locally owned,

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Speaker 2: across the residential, they do the commercial, the rural sectors

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Speaker 2: as well. They produce altogether better results for your clients

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Speaker 2: value to your Endeavorsit is why Bailey's is the country's

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Speaker 2: most trusted real estate brand, back by the proven track record,

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Speaker 2: of course, to finding the buyers others can't and putting

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Speaker 2: people at the heart of everything they do. They've done

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Speaker 2: regal estate differently since nineteen seventy three and they're going

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Speaker 2: to keep doing things all together better in every sector

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Speaker 2: for every one of us for the next fifty years

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Speaker 2: and beyond licensed under the RAA Act of two thousand

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Speaker 2: and eight. Of course, all the details at Bailees dot

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Speaker 2: Co dot said to discover the difference Baileys dot Co

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Speaker 2: dot nz pasking speaking of democracy and local body politics,

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Speaker 2: I note the Western Bay a Plenty District Council voted

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Speaker 2: this week six to five to leave local government New

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Speaker 2: Zealand extremely political and lacked professionalism. They argue. They now

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Speaker 2: join christ Church, Auckland, West Coast, Gray District, Kuipra and Westland,

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Speaker 2: leading me to ask the question just how many councils

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Speaker 2: have to leave local government New Zealand before one local

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Speaker 2: government New Zealand doesn't need it anymore because there's no

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Speaker 2: one left. Or before that, it actually becomes a bit

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Speaker 2: of a problem. It's a lot of people and the course.

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Speaker 2: It's the fee that local government New Zealand charges is

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01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: based on size, so the big of the council, the

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Speaker 2: bigger the fee. Christ Church and Auckland are massive obviously

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Speaker 2: in Western by a plenty of arm as human really

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Speaker 2: large as well.

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Speaker 8: Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year right.

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Speaker 2: Look was this time yesterday? Trump was at the Kennedy Center.

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Speaker 2: He's now chair of the board, and they're a little

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01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 2: bit upset because he's made appointments to the board. He's

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Speaker 2: put some Fox News hosts on the board, He's put

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Speaker 2: his press secretary on the board, he put his press

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Speaker 2: secretary's mum on the board, and generally the Kennedy Center

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Speaker 2: is a sort of a bit a political anyway. Part

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Speaker 2: of that he said, we need some better shows. He's

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Speaker 2: never a fan of Hamilton, needs some better shows. And

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Speaker 2: he suggested one of his better shows that he's immediately

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Speaker 2: suggested is, of course, Paul You're having My Baby. I mean,

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Speaker 2: is that one of the great songs of all time? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: What the other thing he did? I think it was

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Speaker 2: the one hit wonder, wasn't he Paul Anka you having

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Speaker 2: my baby. He also did my way, but this way.

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Speaker 14: I bet you can't wait.

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Speaker 2: To renovate.

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Speaker 14: That oval, that Oval office.

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Speaker 4: With your vast knowledge.

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Speaker 8: We can bet.

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Speaker 14: You could wipe about the national debt if plans go alrong, Hey,

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Speaker 14: what happened? You just sit down and write a chat.

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Speaker 2: We're all relay.

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Speaker 14: Don't hurt this time.

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Speaker 2: When we vote. You're it's not bad. You can see,

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Speaker 2: like said, can't you. So that is Paul Anka, who

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Speaker 2: will be coming to the Kennedy Center before long. By

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Speaker 2: the way, do you remember on the program the other day,

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Speaker 2: I said we should get Bruce Hornsby on the program

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Speaker 2: because I'd never interviewed Bruce Hornsby. I thought, why don't

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Speaker 2: we interview Bruce Hornsby? Where we ring Bruce Hornsby? And

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Speaker 2: he will be appearing on the program tomorrow after eight o'clock,

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Speaker 2: because that's how we rove happy days.

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