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Speaker 1: The big names, the big issues, the big controversies and

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Speaker 3: EDB seven after midday. Good afternoon, It's a Sunday, fifteenth

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Speaker 3: to March twenty twenty six. My name's Darcy Walter Grave

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Speaker 3: of Stolen Jason Pine's at seat for the entire weekend

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Speaker 3: of at Weekend Sport. I'm having a while of the time.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're enjoying your weekend of sport as well.

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Speaker 3: Before we tell you what's coming up of the next

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Speaker 3: of three hours, Happy birthday to Kyle Mills. H Kyle,

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Speaker 3: You'll always be remembered, won't you? For your time in

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Speaker 3: the yellow vest going off for the South Africa's I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry I had to bring that up, but that was

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Speaker 3: one of the outstandings that arguably was what turned the

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Speaker 3: tables for the black Caps and who they are now

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Speaker 3: so well done on that one. There great nights sport

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Speaker 3: plenty going on, and we'll touch on quite a lot

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Speaker 3: of that today we'll soo preview some clashes coming up.

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Speaker 3: Six Nations they've given up playing defense. Interesting to see

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Speaker 3: that's going to make the the Nations Championship coming up

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Speaker 3: being something else. How's the irony of that? Always accused

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Speaker 3: of playing flash Harry run rugby and suddenly that's what

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Speaker 3: the Northern hemisphere are doing as well. Six nations are

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Speaker 3: playing that game. France are the Six Nations champions and

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Speaker 3: for Ireland, well they've got something going on. They managed

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Speaker 3: to pick up the triple crown. So that's great results

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Speaker 3: for that over the weekend. But a Formula one happening well,

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Speaker 3: a bit of rugby union, but will touch on all

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Speaker 3: of that in the program. Will be joined by Dan Perrin,

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Speaker 3: assistant coach of the Crusaders. How on earth did they

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Speaker 3: get away with that last night against the Highlanders? Thirty

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Speaker 3: minutes with only fourteen players? You are caddying me. We'll

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Speaker 3: catch up with Cain Williamson up after one o'clock. James

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Speaker 3: mcconey has a world. We're talking a bit of timber

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Speaker 3: sports as well with Shane Jordan beat up on his

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Speaker 3: younger brother yesterday who incident he was the world champion.

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Speaker 3: Michael lamonato if I, a Formula one accredited journalist, joins

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Speaker 3: us to look back at qualifying and the sprint race

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Speaker 3: in Shanghai and her head to the Formula one race

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Speaker 3: tonight at eight o'clock. Nathan Smith, we talk a wee

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Speaker 3: bit of cricket because the five match T twenty series,

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Speaker 3: the doubleheaders both Ferns and the Caps, that commences today

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Speaker 3: and Cole Forbes there's a bit of a grudge match

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Speaker 3: today at Eden Park three thirty five. It's the rivals.

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Speaker 3: It's Tannaumong his men, that mo one Pussifka up against

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Speaker 3: the Blues. That's a lot on this. It should have

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Speaker 3: a wee bit of friction, a bit of a rest

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Speaker 3: around it. It'd be great looking forward to that as well.

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Speaker 3: We've got plenty. We've got plenty on the program. You

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Speaker 3: Ticked over eleven, passed to twelve. Dave any answer, you know,

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Speaker 3: the new All Blacks head coach. The next question is

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Speaker 3: who will his assistance be. Rumors plainly have started to

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Speaker 3: help us to get to the bottom of those rumors.

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Speaker 3: And a man who's got an ear on the nature

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Speaker 3: of New Zealand rugby, specifically All Black rugby as Gregor

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Speaker 3: Paul from the New Zealand Herald. He's chief rugby writer.

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Speaker 3: He's got the inside word and we're going to go

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Speaker 4: You well, I'm very well thanks to That's what I

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Speaker 3: A big day. Today's a wonderful crosstown rivalry. I think

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Speaker 3: Where to now for Dave Rennie. We know who the

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Speaker 3: Because I believe this decision is imminent.

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Speaker 5: I think we'll get maybe confirmation at the end of

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Speaker 4: There is clearly because it's been.

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Speaker 5: Written about by myself an issue with one of his

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Speaker 5: Very well with the players, He's got rapport with the players.

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Speaker 5: Many of the players think he's a good technical, tactical coach.

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Speaker 5: certainly challenge Dave to say, let's not throw this guy

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Speaker 5: Dave to keep Scott Hanson. I think it's a process

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Speaker 3: How important is it for the ol Blacks that Dave

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not about getting his way.

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Speaker 5: It's about getting a team that he's comfortable with, that

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Speaker 5: It's about me making sure that everyone is on the

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Speaker 5: So yeah, look, it's hugely important if you look at

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Speaker 5: That became a problem because it became a bit playground

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Speaker 5: So Foster was scrambling around for two assistants late in

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Speaker 5: It was disruptive and look with Razor when he got

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Speaker 5: So I think it's hugely important that there's a lot

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Speaker 3: Top brass in very important positions and ends are you'd

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Speaker 3: But you think who's around and making these decisions. They're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think so the fact that they're putting

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Speaker 5: I think it's a good compromise agreement that they've reached

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Speaker 5: we had a really good process there.

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Speaker 4: We dug deep into all the all the.

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Speaker 3: It's a balance of power that is going to be

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Speaker 3: But the players are they going to play under these guys, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to a degree.

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Speaker 5: I don't that you can hand it over too far

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Speaker 5: I think they player input, wider feedback from a whole

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Speaker 5: all fed into the head coaching process to inform the decision.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't the players getting what.

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Speaker 4: They've been used to coaching and the Crusaders they.

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Speaker 3: Onwards and upwards very much. Looking forward to these appointments,

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Speaker 3: I really hope they managed to stitch up that thread

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Speaker 6: I see good? Thanks. Look, there was a question I

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Speaker 6: He said, Yeah, but Darcy, I mean, rugby is a

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Speaker 6: it apparently. And the question I have for you is this,

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Speaker 6: as you're a Crusaders man and have connections there, I suppose.

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Speaker 3: Nearly thirty years, my connections are fairly brittle, to be fair.

433
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Speaker 6: Carry on, Okay, yeah, okay, Well who was response? Who

434
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Speaker 6: was the architect of the Crusaders seven wins under Scott Robinson?

435
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Speaker 6: Raiser Robinson's coaching.

436
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Speaker 3: There was a number of distant assistant coaches during that time.

437
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Speaker 3: FIP and thank you very much for your call. But

438
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Speaker 3: as the overarching head coach who dealt with culture, dealt

439
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Speaker 3: with selection, and oversaw the defense in the attack, it

440
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Speaker 3: at Scott Robinson and I think a lot of us.

441
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Speaker 3: I was very pro Robertson, quite surprised when it didn't

442
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Speaker 3: work out the way we thought it would. I don't

443
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Speaker 3: think he should have been exited stage left. I think

444
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Speaker 3: he needed more time.

445
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Speaker 7: So be it.

446
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Speaker 3: We've got a new guy. Now we get one hundred

447
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Speaker 3: percent behind it. So what we do with the coaching staff,

448
00:25:23,627 --> 00:25:26,347
Speaker 3: the assistant coaching staff, I ask you, oh, eight one

449
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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty lines are open. I just want reliability.

450
00:25:31,507 --> 00:25:35,027
Speaker 3: I want them to stay for more than two years.

451
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Speaker 3: This is news talk ZB. It's twelve thirty two summer

452
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be the same without cricket, huh, And why it

453
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Speaker 3: might be stumps on holiday beach. Cricket South Africa is

454
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Speaker 3: in the country and they're taking on our white ferns

455
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Speaker 3: and our black caps. And look, we know how it works, right.

456
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Speaker 3: You checked forecasts five six times the day before but

457
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Speaker 3: here's something pretty cool. You don't have to worry about

458
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Speaker 3: the forecast, right if you've got takets to a White

459
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Speaker 3: Ferns black Caps doubleheader, because that's what's happening over these

460
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Speaker 3: five t twenties. In the unlike that ish event that

461
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Speaker 3: a game in March has abandoned due to rain, you're

462
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Speaker 3: not out right because brook Vale Union have this thing

463
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Speaker 3: called Rainsurance. So basically you take your match ticket into

464
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Speaker 3: selected superlicer stores the very next day and you can

465
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Speaker 3: redeem it for a brook Vale Union prize pack. So

466
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Speaker 3: you're still winning rain or shown right, which means you

467
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Speaker 3: can head along, you can back the team, soak up

468
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Speaker 3: the atmosphere and not spend the whole day stressing about

469
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Speaker 3: the weather radar rain insurance from brook Vale Union. If

470
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Speaker 3: it rains, they pour.

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Speaker 1: The biggest names in sports Talk to Darcy Weekend Sport

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Speaker 1: with Dancy Watergrave and GJ. Gardnomes, New Zealand's most trusted

473
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Speaker 1: home builder News Talks That'd.

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Speaker 3: Be twelve thirty six, joined by Gregor Paul to open

475
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Speaker 3: the show, talking about the coaching selections the assistant coaches

476
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Speaker 3: that Dave Rennie would like take your cause on that now, Phil,

477
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Speaker 3: welcome to the show. We're leaning on this one.

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Speaker 8: I just want to say, first of all, Darcy, thanks

479
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Speaker 8: for sticking up for me yesterday when I couldn't pronounce

480
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Speaker 8: the name Rachel put that kick through about paste and

481
00:27:14,947 --> 00:27:17,867
Speaker 8: white male bit angry about that.

482
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Speaker 3: But I'm a pasty white male. Let's say, okay, but

483
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Speaker 3: not everyone can get it right. Okay, if I was

484
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Speaker 3: doing it, problems, But Phil Assistant coaches.

485
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Speaker 8: Assistant coach Gregor Pool was really good to listen to.

486
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Speaker 8: It was a great interview. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm

487
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Speaker 8: with you, and I just want reliability and continuity. And

488
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Speaker 8: I think like Gregor Pool highlighted the point there with

489
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Speaker 8: the last two things, last two appointments, and I didn't

490
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Speaker 8: know about Ian Foster with his two his two fellas

491
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Speaker 8: that he wanted that he couldn't get with Tony Brown.

492
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Speaker 8: And because the process took so long with Jamie Joseph,

493
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Speaker 8: and then with Razor and his guys, his fellow leave

494
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Speaker 8: and the other fellow not renewing a contract. To me,

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Speaker 8: it just really highlights the importance of like Gregor Pool

496
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Speaker 8: said about taking the time to get that whole coaching

497
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Speaker 8: unit and assistant coach is right, you know, to get

498
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Speaker 8: everything right, so you all gel together and there's none

499
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Speaker 8: of these problems down the road where one gets frustrated

500
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Speaker 8: with the other and decides to walk out halfway through

501
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Speaker 8: or you know, a few months after being in the job,

502
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Speaker 8: because there it just throws upheaval everything and upheaval, doesn't it,

503
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Speaker 8: And the players get they get unse happy, unsettled and unhappy,

504
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Speaker 8: and they you know, probably can't have trouble concentrating on

505
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Speaker 8: that because all this internal stuff that's going on where

506
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Speaker 8: they're trying to get things down and that, so yeah,

507
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Speaker 8: really important. I think that is the biggest thing a

508
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Speaker 8: And if they can if the players are happy, I

509
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Speaker 8: got no problem with the foreign person coming. And is

510
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Speaker 8: it Mike that's worked with Dave Renny that is working

511
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Speaker 8: with them now and bringing them in, I've got no

512
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Speaker 8: problem with that either. But if the players really like

513
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Speaker 8: Hanson as well, Scott Hanson, and they would like him

514
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Speaker 8: to stay it, then I think it would be important

515
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Speaker 8: for them too, for them to convince the ready to

516
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Speaker 8: somehow keep him in there, because it's a very important,

517
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Speaker 8: like we've seen with what happened with ways of that,

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Speaker 8: Like Gregor Paul said, the players shouldn't have the b

519
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Speaker 8: or end will say, but it is important in the

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Speaker 8: environment for the courtin new and in happiness and to

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Speaker 8: keep it a harmonious environment to have the players happy

522
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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 3: I think that is important. You've got to understand, philm

524
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Speaker 3: thanks very much for your call that as far as

525
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Speaker 3: control of the ultimate control of the team and what happens,

526
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Speaker 3: it has to sit with the coach because he's the

527
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Speaker 3: guy who's head is on the block. And as you

528
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Speaker 3: pointed out, and I know I laughed about committee because

529
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Speaker 3: when you make a decision via committee, it never works.

530
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Speaker 3: But information. The more information you can get before you

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Speaker 3: make a decision, the better. And you'd like to think

532
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Speaker 3: that lessons have been learned by n z are of

533
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Speaker 3: what's happened in the last few years. I don't know

534
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Speaker 3: if that's too much to ask, but we'll find out. Gooday, Pete, how.

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Speaker 9: Are you good? I reckon start. You know, it's like

536
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Speaker 9: a new company. You know, they take over another company

537
00:30:10,667 --> 00:30:13,227
Speaker 9: and the manager say, as well, that was the previous company.

538
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Speaker 9: The leaders of the company, maybe they beg and I'm

539
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Speaker 9: going to run up my way, and I reckon, he's

540
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Speaker 9: the coach now. So it should be up to him

541
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Speaker 9: who decides he wants to be his assistant coaches. I reckon,

542
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Speaker 9: they want to keep your nose out of it, the

543
00:30:26,387 --> 00:30:29,507
Speaker 9: you know the other the head work like David Kirk,

544
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Speaker 9: and just let him. Let him decide he wants to

545
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Speaker 9: take on a lot of the players are going to

546
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Speaker 9: know also, some of those players aren't going to be

547
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Speaker 9: all blacks as they were under a Raider, So there's

548
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Speaker 9: going to be a whole new change in the whole

549
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Speaker 9: whole scenario. Really, So that's it's going to buy the

550
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Speaker 9: bullet and let him decide. I think it better best.

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Speaker 10: That fresh Pete.

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Speaker 3: That's all or after a bit of an opinion for you.

553
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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty teen eighty. This is a news

554
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Speaker 3: talk zbs twe minutes to one. Feel free to ring

555
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Speaker 3: on through. Hi, Richie, what do you make of the situation?

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Speaker 4: Darcy?

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Speaker 11: Hey, Look, god, I rang up a while ago when

558
00:31:03,747 --> 00:31:05,907
Speaker 11: Razer was getting the bullet, and I said one of

559
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Speaker 11: the key things that we felt about razors regime as

560
00:31:09,787 --> 00:31:13,107
Speaker 11: what was his game plan? Nobody really had any idea

561
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Speaker 11: what his game plan was. And then everybody was saying, well,

562
00:31:16,867 --> 00:31:19,987
Speaker 11: Scott Hansen's as attack coach and everything. And I can't

563
00:31:20,067 --> 00:31:22,507
Speaker 11: help thinking he might be liked by the players, but

564
00:31:23,027 --> 00:31:26,267
Speaker 11: he couldn't get his message across clearly. And that's my

565
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Speaker 11: two cents worth.

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Speaker 3: What would you say was the attack? What was the

567
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Speaker 3: point of attack? So you said the clarity wasn't there.

568
00:31:34,707 --> 00:31:36,947
Speaker 3: So if we don't get it, how the player's supposed

569
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Speaker 3: to get it? And I suppose if you've been critical,

570
00:31:39,867 --> 00:31:41,667
Speaker 3: what did the All Blacks attack look like? For a

571
00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:44,187
Speaker 3: great part of the time he was so called running it?

572
00:31:44,267 --> 00:31:46,987
Speaker 3: Was it really that good? We didn't have one precise We.

573
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Speaker 11: Didn't have one. There was no player. No players stayed

574
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Speaker 11: the same for any game in a rug really And secondly,

575
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Speaker 11: you know there was no idea. You're trying to take

576
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Speaker 11: it up through the centers, you're trying to put it

577
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Speaker 11: out to the wings fast. You know what exactly was

578
00:32:03,227 --> 00:32:05,547
Speaker 11: he trying to do? And if he's the attack coach,

579
00:32:06,107 --> 00:32:09,947
Speaker 11: he didn't get that message across, hunt.

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Speaker 3: It into the opposition, fallback. That's what their playing was. Richard,

581
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Speaker 3: Thanks very much for your time. It is eighteen minutes

582
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Speaker 3: to one this news talk's the b lines were open.

583
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Speaker 3: Our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty All Black assistant coach.

584
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Speaker 3: Where does that sit for you? And coming up after

585
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Speaker 3: one o'clock we're going to be joined by mister Caine Williamson.

586
00:32:31,227 --> 00:32:34,387
Speaker 3: You may remember him, handy cricketer back in the day.

587
00:32:34,427 --> 00:32:37,027
Speaker 3: When I say back in the day, he's still playing

588
00:32:37,267 --> 00:32:40,667
Speaker 3: right Caane Williamson joins us up after one is his

589
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Speaker 3: news talks there.

590
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Speaker 1: B don't stay on the sidelines Call eight hundred eighty

591
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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Dancy Wandergrave and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's

592
00:32:51,107 --> 00:32:53,307
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks at B.

593
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Speaker 3: Twelve forty five on Weekend at Sport. We've got a

594
00:32:57,947 --> 00:33:00,067
Speaker 3: bit of a turn about. We're going to go to

595
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Speaker 3: timber Sport. Now we're going to Shane Jordan. A bit

596
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Speaker 3: of a shock in the world of timber Sport. The

597
00:33:06,867 --> 00:33:11,067
Speaker 3: world champion Jack Jordan, younger brother of he's been beaten

598
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Speaker 3: and there's still and you see on Timersport championships by

599
00:33:14,707 --> 00:33:18,027
Speaker 3: older brother Shane, ten years between them. That means Jack

600
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Speaker 3: won't be able to defend his world title later this year.

601
00:33:22,147 --> 00:33:26,547
Speaker 3: It could be awkward around the dinner table. Shane joins us. Now,

602
00:33:26,867 --> 00:33:29,547
Speaker 3: mister Jordan, you must be stoked to get one in

603
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Speaker 3: for the old boys.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely like Jack's. Oh he's pretty hard to beat

605
00:33:35,667 --> 00:33:37,467
Speaker 12: at the best of times. And yeah, it's definitely pretty

606
00:33:37,467 --> 00:33:39,027
Speaker 12: good yesterday to get one over top of him.

607
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Speaker 3: So what was the trick, because you got a number

608
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Speaker 3: of different disciplines running through the day, where did you

609
00:33:43,987 --> 00:33:45,587
Speaker 3: get the edge on Matt? Do you think?

610
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Speaker 12: Well, both tied coming into the last event, the hot saw,

611
00:33:49,947 --> 00:33:52,027
Speaker 12: we're both tied on points, and he had a slightly

612
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Speaker 12: faster overall fine, which meant I had to go first,

613
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Speaker 12: and all I knew was I had to put up

614
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Speaker 12: a really good time and then sort of put the

615
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Speaker 12: pressure back on him. And yeah, lucky enough, it all

616
00:34:00,387 --> 00:34:02,267
Speaker 12: just sort of worked out just right. Like me, training

617
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Speaker 12: was pretty good in the hot saw and sort of

618
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Speaker 12: just went for it and yeah, put up a five

619
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Speaker 12: point seven, which is yeah, right up there and meant

620
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Speaker 12: theppreciator go back on him and he Yeah, it was

621
00:34:11,907 --> 00:34:13,547
Speaker 12: obviously just a little bit too much, and he just

622
00:34:13,587 --> 00:34:15,267
Speaker 12: made a bit of a mistake, pulled that saw up

623
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Speaker 12: a little bit high when he started and cut a

624
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:18,787
Speaker 12: too thicker ring, and then he was sort of in

625
00:34:18,827 --> 00:34:19,907
Speaker 12: Struggles Street after that.

626
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Speaker 3: And when it comes to all of the disciplines, because

627
00:34:22,027 --> 00:34:25,307
Speaker 3: there's a number of different to make up this top

628
00:34:25,427 --> 00:34:28,667
Speaker 3: prize to win the competition. Is there a favorite discipline

629
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Speaker 3: won the excelon?

630
00:34:31,227 --> 00:34:35,027
Speaker 12: Oh, well, there's six events. The first three events are

631
00:34:35,067 --> 00:34:37,467
Speaker 12: single points and then it goes to double points on

632
00:34:37,507 --> 00:34:39,547
Speaker 12: the next two and then triple points on the hot sauce.

633
00:34:39,627 --> 00:34:43,067
Speaker 12: So the hot saw definitely is one of the most important.

634
00:34:43,067 --> 00:34:44,867
Speaker 12: But if you're having a bad day, you don't get

635
00:34:44,907 --> 00:34:47,067
Speaker 12: through the others. Sort of its knockout as you go

636
00:34:47,147 --> 00:34:50,467
Speaker 12: as well. So they start off with ten and then

637
00:34:50,467 --> 00:34:52,307
Speaker 12: they dropped two after the first three, and then they

638
00:34:52,347 --> 00:34:56,267
Speaker 12: drop another two after the the next event. So yeah,

639
00:34:56,267 --> 00:34:57,907
Speaker 12: you definitely got to be going pretty good all day

640
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Speaker 12: and pretty consistent to sort of get there at the

641
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Speaker 12: end to have a shot at it.

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Speaker 3: Far is the mental state, and you touched on it

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Speaker 3: just then. Plainly strength size technique is huge, But mentally,

644
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Speaker 3: how much def to dial in for this? Do you think?

645
00:35:13,427 --> 00:35:14,227
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is.

646
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Speaker 12: It's probably the most mental out of all the woods

647
00:35:16,187 --> 00:35:18,867
Speaker 12: shopping sort of events we do, just because you've got

648
00:35:18,947 --> 00:35:23,227
Speaker 12: six events that are also different. There's the really the

649
00:35:23,307 --> 00:35:25,547
Speaker 12: really really technical ones and then there's the ones that

650
00:35:25,547 --> 00:35:28,427
Speaker 12: aren't probably quite as technical, but sort of the brawn,

651
00:35:28,507 --> 00:35:30,587
Speaker 12: strength and that sort of come to it a big part.

652
00:35:30,707 --> 00:35:32,827
Speaker 12: So by the end of the day you're absolutely rigged.

653
00:35:34,067 --> 00:35:37,027
Speaker 3: I always like the standing block. That always fascinated me

654
00:35:37,067 --> 00:35:38,547
Speaker 3: as a kid. Something you revalent.

655
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Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, that's my favorite. That's my favorite out of

656
00:35:42,187 --> 00:35:44,387
Speaker 12: picking sort of any event would be the standing block.

657
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Speaker 12: It's probably the one I trained the most and have

658
00:35:46,387 --> 00:35:50,347
Speaker 12: probably had the most success and so yeah, the standing

659
00:35:50,387 --> 00:35:52,027
Speaker 12: box definitely, Yeah, right up there.

660
00:35:52,147 --> 00:35:54,307
Speaker 3: So what got you into it? Why did you start

661
00:35:54,587 --> 00:35:56,347
Speaker 3: attacking bits of timber for fun?

662
00:35:57,787 --> 00:35:57,987
Speaker 4: Oh?

663
00:35:58,107 --> 00:36:00,427
Speaker 12: Sort of something did. We went got off the bus

664
00:36:00,467 --> 00:36:03,067
Speaker 12: after skill and went to a guy called Bruce Reichard

665
00:36:03,187 --> 00:36:04,547
Speaker 12: just out of Douglas. He had a sort of a

666
00:36:04,547 --> 00:36:06,387
Speaker 12: bit of a school going for a whole lot of

667
00:36:06,467 --> 00:36:08,347
Speaker 12: us young fellas, and yeah, we just sort of went

668
00:36:08,387 --> 00:36:11,187
Speaker 12: there and started doing it, and from there went over

669
00:36:11,187 --> 00:36:13,707
Speaker 12: to a guy call Johnny Mackenzie and Taupo I was

670
00:36:13,747 --> 00:36:15,267
Speaker 12: living over there at the time, and sort of he

671
00:36:15,587 --> 00:36:18,347
Speaker 12: pushed me along and you know, the right direction, and yeah,

672
00:36:18,467 --> 00:36:19,227
Speaker 12: sort of went from there.

673
00:36:19,507 --> 00:36:23,067
Speaker 3: That is a direct result your younger brother ten year

674
00:36:23,147 --> 00:36:25,827
Speaker 3: younger brother, where he's slightly heavier and slightly taller. He

675
00:36:25,827 --> 00:36:29,827
Speaker 3: doesn't get to go and defend his world championship, does he? No, No,

676
00:36:29,907 --> 00:36:30,387
Speaker 3: he doesn't.

677
00:36:30,707 --> 00:36:32,907
Speaker 12: He'll be going over in the team to cut with

678
00:36:32,987 --> 00:36:36,027
Speaker 12: us in the team's event over there. But yeah, definitely

679
00:36:36,427 --> 00:36:38,587
Speaker 12: he won't be going for that individual spot this year.

680
00:36:38,947 --> 00:36:41,787
Speaker 3: Is he like an angry individual? Was he going to

681
00:36:42,027 --> 00:36:45,827
Speaker 3: like not talk to you for months on end? Or na?

682
00:36:45,947 --> 00:36:46,987
Speaker 7: He's pretty good sort of.

683
00:36:47,067 --> 00:36:49,587
Speaker 12: Last year I was on the receiving end, like I

684
00:36:49,627 --> 00:36:51,507
Speaker 12: made pretty much the same mistake as well he did

685
00:36:51,547 --> 00:36:56,307
Speaker 12: last year and got dequed and sort of that sort of. Yeah,

686
00:36:56,307 --> 00:36:58,747
Speaker 12: it was pretty much very similar to being the same

687
00:36:58,787 --> 00:37:00,667
Speaker 12: as this year and the way of points coming out

688
00:37:00,707 --> 00:37:03,787
Speaker 12: for that last event. But Njack's Jack pretty good. He's

689
00:37:04,667 --> 00:37:06,307
Speaker 12: you know, I could see he was heard enough, sort

690
00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:08,467
Speaker 12: of felt his pain yesterday, so I didn't talk to

691
00:37:08,507 --> 00:37:10,947
Speaker 12: him too much or sort of. But yeah, it'll take

692
00:37:11,067 --> 00:37:13,067
Speaker 12: it'll take a few days to sort of process at all.

693
00:37:13,107 --> 00:37:15,387
Speaker 12: And yeah, but definitely he'll be on my side when

694
00:37:15,427 --> 00:37:19,027
Speaker 12: we head over there and try to get that World championship.

695
00:37:18,787 --> 00:37:21,227
Speaker 3: And the last thing for in thanks so much for

696
00:37:21,427 --> 00:37:25,187
Speaker 3: joining us, Shane Jordan. The strength of timber sports in

697
00:37:25,187 --> 00:37:27,307
Speaker 3: New Zealand. When you look back at such great names

698
00:37:27,347 --> 00:37:29,747
Speaker 3: like when You're Bolstered and the like. Is it still

699
00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:31,787
Speaker 3: looking like that, We're still right up the top of

700
00:37:31,827 --> 00:37:32,187
Speaker 3: the world.

701
00:37:33,347 --> 00:37:34,027
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.

702
00:37:34,227 --> 00:37:36,747
Speaker 12: We've got a lot of a lot of extra guys

703
00:37:36,747 --> 00:37:39,867
Speaker 12: coming through now, Like it was probably quite weak probably

704
00:37:39,907 --> 00:37:42,387
Speaker 12: five years ago, but now we're we've got a real

705
00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:44,627
Speaker 12: good group of guys that are really pushing pretty hard

706
00:37:45,747 --> 00:37:47,227
Speaker 12: to represent the country.

707
00:37:48,027 --> 00:37:51,107
Speaker 3: And on that note, we'll eat you go. Congratulations mate,

708
00:37:51,147 --> 00:37:53,547
Speaker 3: Go well and sit down and have yourself a brilliant,

709
00:37:53,667 --> 00:37:56,187
Speaker 3: hearty feed of steak and we'll talk on another day,

710
00:37:56,227 --> 00:38:00,227
Speaker 3: I'm sure. Hey, thank you very much, Thank you very much.

711
00:38:00,387 --> 00:38:06,347
Speaker 3: Shane Jordan thoroughly likable older brother of world champion Jack Jordan,

712
00:38:06,987 --> 00:38:11,027
Speaker 3: whom he beat New Zealand champs yesterday. Well done to

713
00:38:11,267 --> 00:38:13,427
Speaker 3: that man. Nice to know they're both going to be

714
00:38:13,907 --> 00:38:16,667
Speaker 3: traveling away overseas together. Not too much of a ruckus

715
00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:19,907
Speaker 3: between the characters. It's nine away from one. Coming up

716
00:38:19,947 --> 00:38:23,867
Speaker 3: after one o'clock. Cain Williamson is going to join the program.

717
00:38:24,107 --> 00:38:27,187
Speaker 3: He has released a new box, but also plenty to

718
00:38:27,267 --> 00:38:30,827
Speaker 3: talk about in the wonderful wide world of cricket. Thanks

719
00:38:30,907 --> 00:38:34,027
Speaker 3: very much for your texts coming through around. Who is

720
00:38:34,067 --> 00:38:38,547
Speaker 3: going to be the assistant coach under Dave Rennie, plenty

721
00:38:38,707 --> 00:38:43,827
Speaker 3: of them. There's someone here completely attacking what the attack

722
00:38:44,027 --> 00:38:47,187
Speaker 3: was like Under Hanson, I can't read those words. I'll

723
00:38:47,187 --> 00:38:51,547
Speaker 3: be removed from my seat, so I shan't ends it

724
00:38:51,627 --> 00:38:55,747
Speaker 3: are in the dark ages. It's this character pick global

725
00:38:56,667 --> 00:39:00,747
Speaker 3: or completely destroyed, destroy the brand. And the more I

726
00:39:00,907 --> 00:39:05,227
Speaker 3: think about this, Hanson has too much baggage from the

727
00:39:05,307 --> 00:39:08,907
Speaker 3: last regime. Already got Ryan in there, He's going to stay.

728
00:39:09,267 --> 00:39:13,227
Speaker 3: So I think a clean cut is probably the best thing.

729
00:39:13,267 --> 00:39:15,987
Speaker 3: And when you look at the relationship that Mike Blair

730
00:39:16,427 --> 00:39:20,667
Speaker 3: has got with Dave Rennie Cobby Steele, just so you know,

731
00:39:21,227 --> 00:39:23,987
Speaker 3: are sitting at the top of the table and when

732
00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:27,627
Speaker 3: it comes to Japan Top fourteen rugby, so they're going

733
00:39:27,667 --> 00:39:30,907
Speaker 3: all right as a team. And what is wrong with

734
00:39:31,547 --> 00:39:34,427
Speaker 3: a different accent? What is wrong with a foreigner rolling

735
00:39:34,467 --> 00:39:36,987
Speaker 3: in at a coaching level. I just don't think there's

736
00:39:36,987 --> 00:39:40,027
Speaker 3: any issue with that. We've seen that at super rugby

737
00:39:40,147 --> 00:39:44,587
Speaker 3: level too, bringing in a different headspace, a different thought process,

738
00:39:44,667 --> 00:39:49,067
Speaker 3: a different attitude. Because New Zealand rugby can get a

739
00:39:49,107 --> 00:39:54,187
Speaker 3: tad insular and this way will escape that problem and

740
00:39:54,267 --> 00:39:57,627
Speaker 3: On that note, looking forward to the latest news, sport

741
00:39:57,747 --> 00:40:00,787
Speaker 3: and weather, which is coming up next here at Newstalk

742
00:40:00,907 --> 00:40:03,947
Speaker 3: ZB up. After that, it's Kin.

743
00:40:04,187 --> 00:40:11,987
Speaker 1: Williamson analyzing the plays and getting the insight weekends for

744
00:40:12,187 --> 00:40:14,747
Speaker 1: it with Darcy Waldegrave News Talk z'b.

745
00:40:15,427 --> 00:40:19,347
Speaker 3: It's four minutes away from news. A couple of quick

746
00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:21,747
Speaker 3: texts for you, Moy is interesting. Might you have to

747
00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:25,987
Speaker 3: say nine to nine to ZBZB The standard text charge

748
00:40:26,147 --> 00:40:29,427
Speaker 3: does apply. I think about that before you send it in. Tony,

749
00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:33,667
Speaker 3: very simple request what he wants from the assistant coaches.

750
00:40:34,027 --> 00:40:37,947
Speaker 3: I just want success? Is that too much to ask? No,

751
00:40:38,107 --> 00:40:41,107
Speaker 3: it's not. You're a fan as you should. Rennie should

752
00:40:41,187 --> 00:40:44,707
Speaker 3: bring Mike with them. Hansen is to headstrong and will

753
00:40:44,827 --> 00:40:48,827
Speaker 3: clash with Rennie. It's too important to have practices within

754
00:40:49,187 --> 00:40:53,427
Speaker 3: the leadership. Rennie needs to surround himself with people he trusts,

755
00:40:53,907 --> 00:40:57,787
Speaker 3: and Marz says, have you seen the price of stake, Darcy?

756
00:40:58,347 --> 00:41:02,707
Speaker 3: More likely you'd probably grab some mints, I would think,

757
00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:06,187
Speaker 3: and I get that completely. That's our number one of

758
00:41:06,387 --> 00:41:10,027
Speaker 3: week in sport, our number two moments away. This is

759
00:41:10,587 --> 00:41:11,387
Speaker 3: news Talk.

760
00:41:11,547 --> 00:41:16,787
Speaker 1: ZB, the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on.

761
00:41:18,307 --> 00:41:19,467
Speaker 4: The head off the field.

762
00:41:19,627 --> 00:41:20,347
Speaker 9: We've got a story.

763
00:41:20,867 --> 00:41:24,267
Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Darcy Watergrave on your

764
00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:26,747
Speaker 1: home of Sport News.

765
00:41:26,547 --> 00:41:27,307
Speaker 4: Talk zeb.

766
00:41:28,707 --> 00:41:31,707
Speaker 3: Seven after one on a Sunday afternoon, fifteenth to March

767
00:41:31,747 --> 00:41:35,067
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six on Darcy water Grave sitting in for

768
00:41:35,347 --> 00:41:39,387
Speaker 3: Jason Pine here on week in Sport. Two hours to

769
00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:43,427
Speaker 3: go of all the fun of a sporting circus coming

770
00:41:43,507 --> 00:41:45,427
Speaker 3: up over the next couple of hours. We'll go to

771
00:41:45,587 --> 00:41:49,587
Speaker 3: Motorsport up after two o'clock. Michael Lamonato joins us on

772
00:41:49,707 --> 00:41:54,187
Speaker 3: Australian if I, a accredited Formula one writer around the

773
00:41:54,187 --> 00:41:58,107
Speaker 3: action tonight at eight o'clock of the Shanghai Grand Prix

774
00:41:58,187 --> 00:42:02,507
Speaker 3: League Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai. Nathan Smith, Blackcap joins

775
00:42:02,507 --> 00:42:07,187
Speaker 3: the program. Cole Forbes, blues rugby player, joins the program.

776
00:42:07,267 --> 00:42:10,307
Speaker 3: In coming up in this hour, before we get to

777
00:42:10,347 --> 00:42:14,267
Speaker 3: my old mate James mcconey, before we get to Dan Perrin,

778
00:42:14,627 --> 00:42:19,467
Speaker 3: assistant coach of the successful Crusaders from last night, We're

779
00:42:19,507 --> 00:42:22,427
Speaker 3: going to talk with the goat of New Zealand cricket.

780
00:42:22,467 --> 00:42:24,747
Speaker 3: And I can say that because I believe it is

781
00:42:24,907 --> 00:42:28,947
Speaker 3: true and he's involved now in a new business venture.

782
00:42:29,347 --> 00:42:34,387
Speaker 3: Caine Williamson's decided to release a new piece of protective

783
00:42:34,627 --> 00:42:38,547
Speaker 3: cricket equipment. You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's

784
00:42:38,667 --> 00:42:43,307
Speaker 3: a box. Kane Williamson joins the program at now afternoon.

785
00:42:43,387 --> 00:42:44,347
Speaker 3: How are you, Kane?

786
00:42:45,387 --> 00:42:45,787
Speaker 4: Some good?

787
00:42:45,827 --> 00:42:47,747
Speaker 13: Thanks? Good to chat.

788
00:42:47,827 --> 00:42:48,147
Speaker 14: How are you?

789
00:42:48,467 --> 00:42:50,947
Speaker 3: And good? It's great to have you on board as well. Look,

790
00:42:50,987 --> 00:42:54,747
Speaker 3: we're going to be talking now about this new box

791
00:42:55,107 --> 00:43:00,067
Speaker 3: that you have helped design and create. I'd best not

792
00:43:00,147 --> 00:43:03,507
Speaker 3: tell people about it because I don't know later on

793
00:43:03,547 --> 00:43:05,867
Speaker 3: the line, Cain, what have you been doing? What is this?

794
00:43:07,027 --> 00:43:11,907
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, that's basically it. We've been designing.

795
00:43:11,427 --> 00:43:14,987
Speaker 15: Developing a groin guard harness system.

796
00:43:15,827 --> 00:43:17,387
Speaker 13: It's been five years in the making.

797
00:43:17,467 --> 00:43:20,867
Speaker 15: And I mean the origin stories probably you might remember,

798
00:43:20,907 --> 00:43:24,907
Speaker 15: I certainly do, which was getting hit in that region

799
00:43:24,947 --> 00:43:28,547
Speaker 15: by Dale Stain about fourteen years ago and sort of

800
00:43:28,587 --> 00:43:33,707
Speaker 15: splitting my box in half and then sort of going

801
00:43:33,747 --> 00:43:36,867
Speaker 15: on the journey of getting hit a few more times

802
00:43:37,027 --> 00:43:40,427
Speaker 15: and other people that I know in cracket getting hit

803
00:43:40,467 --> 00:43:44,107
Speaker 15: and getting sort of quite severely injured, and kind of

804
00:43:44,107 --> 00:43:47,027
Speaker 15: thinking there's got to be something out there that can

805
00:43:47,867 --> 00:43:52,227
Speaker 15: meet the demands and the standards of the highest level.

806
00:43:51,467 --> 00:43:54,667
Speaker 15: And so that's kind of how it started and then

807
00:43:55,187 --> 00:43:59,267
Speaker 15: went from an idea to then meeting with a developer

808
00:43:59,547 --> 00:44:02,867
Speaker 15: and really sort of trying to come up with something

809
00:44:02,907 --> 00:44:07,147
Speaker 15: that would work. And that's been our journey. We're now

810
00:44:07,187 --> 00:44:09,827
Speaker 15: here today ready to launch the product, which is a

811
00:44:09,867 --> 00:44:13,147
Speaker 15: really exciting moment for us as a business. And the

812
00:44:13,187 --> 00:44:17,227
Speaker 15: business is called Cover and so yeah, it's quite a

813
00:44:17,267 --> 00:44:18,107
Speaker 15: big moment for us.

814
00:44:18,467 --> 00:44:20,867
Speaker 3: Have you seen one to Dale Stain because he was

815
00:44:20,907 --> 00:44:22,827
Speaker 3: the guy who split your box in half in the

816
00:44:22,867 --> 00:44:23,467
Speaker 3: first place.

817
00:44:24,387 --> 00:44:27,507
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's actually sent a video through.

818
00:44:27,547 --> 00:44:28,667
Speaker 13: He remembers it as well.

819
00:44:28,667 --> 00:44:31,867
Speaker 15: He not only split it in half, but he made

820
00:44:31,867 --> 00:44:34,187
Speaker 15: sure he let me know as well that he was

821
00:44:34,227 --> 00:44:37,907
Speaker 15: going to try and hurt me out. So hopefully this

822
00:44:37,947 --> 00:44:40,387
Speaker 15: will help in the future if he comes to me again.

823
00:44:41,747 --> 00:44:45,747
Speaker 15: But no, it's been a really exciting journey in a

824
00:44:45,787 --> 00:44:47,987
Speaker 15: new space for me personally, which is.

825
00:44:49,547 --> 00:44:50,787
Speaker 13: The business area.

826
00:44:50,947 --> 00:44:54,027
Speaker 15: You know, a small startup but with a big vision

827
00:44:54,067 --> 00:44:59,827
Speaker 15: and ambition to kind of modernize sporting equipment and really

828
00:44:59,867 --> 00:45:02,067
Speaker 15: try and take it to another level.

829
00:45:02,107 --> 00:45:03,747
Speaker 13: And so this is the start of that.

830
00:45:04,467 --> 00:45:06,507
Speaker 3: Have you put it on and had someone fire are

831
00:45:06,507 --> 00:45:08,107
Speaker 3: a ball at you out of a cannon to make

832
00:45:08,107 --> 00:45:09,147
Speaker 3: sure it works.

833
00:45:10,027 --> 00:45:11,947
Speaker 15: We're looking for the people to test it. Yeah, if

834
00:45:11,987 --> 00:45:12,747
Speaker 15: you put your hand up.

835
00:45:13,107 --> 00:45:15,787
Speaker 13: No, Look, we've done a whole lot of testing.

836
00:45:15,907 --> 00:45:18,987
Speaker 15: We had to build different testing rigs because it was

837
00:45:19,067 --> 00:45:22,067
Speaker 15: quite hard to do it accurately with equipment that was

838
00:45:22,107 --> 00:45:25,507
Speaker 15: out there. So it's really quite specific, different angles trying

839
00:45:25,507 --> 00:45:28,267
Speaker 15: to work out all the different failure modes, and obviously

840
00:45:28,307 --> 00:45:32,227
Speaker 15: the quality of the box taking the impact is one

841
00:45:32,267 --> 00:45:32,587
Speaker 15: of those.

842
00:45:32,667 --> 00:45:35,027
Speaker 13: But making sure that it's held in place by.

843
00:45:36,507 --> 00:45:39,907
Speaker 15: A really supportive and comfortable harness system it is.

844
00:45:39,867 --> 00:45:41,947
Speaker 13: Also key to that.

845
00:45:42,227 --> 00:45:45,347
Speaker 15: And so there's been a few of us wearing it

846
00:45:45,547 --> 00:45:48,667
Speaker 15: in the international game for the last kind of six

847
00:45:48,707 --> 00:45:51,747
Speaker 15: months or so. So yeah, we've really gone through quite

848
00:45:51,747 --> 00:45:54,107
Speaker 15: a rigorous process to make sure that it's ready.

849
00:45:54,467 --> 00:45:57,067
Speaker 3: Well, it makes me laugh that boxes have been in

850
00:45:57,187 --> 00:45:59,347
Speaker 3: vogue for over one hundred years, but we only just

851
00:45:59,387 --> 00:46:02,547
Speaker 3: worked out we needed a helmet. Shows what men find important.

852
00:46:02,627 --> 00:46:05,947
Speaker 3: It's the Johnson or their brains, and plainly it's their

853
00:46:06,027 --> 00:46:09,147
Speaker 3: john since. Yeah, anyway, don't.

854
00:46:08,907 --> 00:46:10,867
Speaker 13: Move on a bit there, but I think that can

855
00:46:10,947 --> 00:46:13,347
Speaker 13: work out what you just said. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

856
00:46:13,387 --> 00:46:17,067
Speaker 15: I mean we're quick to really try and develop the helmet.

857
00:46:17,627 --> 00:46:20,427
Speaker 13: And you mentioned that there's some humor involved when other.

858
00:46:20,347 --> 00:46:23,307
Speaker 15: People get hit in this region, but certainly when it's you,

859
00:46:23,827 --> 00:46:26,987
Speaker 15: that's not the case. And in fact, doing a lot

860
00:46:27,027 --> 00:46:30,387
Speaker 15: of research about it, you ask anybody in terms of

861
00:46:30,427 --> 00:46:34,147
Speaker 15: what they value protecting, and the helmet is right up there,

862
00:46:34,227 --> 00:46:37,347
Speaker 15: and closely in second place is the growing region. So

863
00:46:38,267 --> 00:46:40,227
Speaker 15: you know, it's sort of made a lot of sense

864
00:46:40,467 --> 00:46:43,027
Speaker 15: in a big gap in the market with the existing

865
00:46:43,427 --> 00:46:47,987
Speaker 15: standards being about fifty something kilometers an hour with a

866
00:46:48,067 --> 00:46:52,707
Speaker 15: drop test, which clearly for the elite level, but not

867
00:46:52,787 --> 00:46:55,427
Speaker 15: only that, which implies getting hit at high speeds, but

868
00:46:56,427 --> 00:46:59,467
Speaker 15: also spinners can cause injury as well, and we saw

869
00:46:59,507 --> 00:47:03,227
Speaker 15: that with a couple of mics, you know, a real

870
00:47:03,267 --> 00:47:08,067
Speaker 15: injury that needed surgery and other things to come back from.

871
00:47:08,107 --> 00:47:11,987
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's been a real journy outside of protecting.

872
00:47:12,027 --> 00:47:14,387
Speaker 3: Mister Happy, you said you've been wearing your box, you've

873
00:47:14,427 --> 00:47:17,907
Speaker 3: been playing as well. What's your future looking like at

874
00:47:17,907 --> 00:47:19,867
Speaker 3: the moment, Kane? Where are you heading? What have you

875
00:47:19,907 --> 00:47:22,027
Speaker 3: got locked in over the next like six months to

876
00:47:22,067 --> 00:47:22,467
Speaker 3: a year?

877
00:47:23,307 --> 00:47:25,547
Speaker 15: Yeah, So, I mean I have been playing a lot,

878
00:47:25,587 --> 00:47:27,827
Speaker 15: obviously about the home summer here where we finished with

879
00:47:27,827 --> 00:47:30,587
Speaker 15: a test series and then I went straight over to

880
00:47:30,787 --> 00:47:33,907
Speaker 15: South Africa and played in that tournament over.

881
00:47:33,787 --> 00:47:36,027
Speaker 13: There, the SA twenty and from there for.

882
00:47:36,107 --> 00:47:39,107
Speaker 15: A quick trip to Bangladesh and I come home and

883
00:47:39,147 --> 00:47:42,027
Speaker 15: having a little bit of a break before IPL and

884
00:47:42,067 --> 00:47:45,187
Speaker 15: then on the horizon of the England Test Series over

885
00:47:45,187 --> 00:47:45,747
Speaker 15: there in June.

886
00:47:45,827 --> 00:47:48,507
Speaker 13: So a bit going on, but nice to have a.

887
00:47:48,467 --> 00:47:51,747
Speaker 15: Lit little bit of a quiet period and focus on

888
00:47:51,907 --> 00:47:55,787
Speaker 15: a few other bits and pieces and cover being one

889
00:47:55,787 --> 00:47:56,667
Speaker 15: of those things.

890
00:47:56,987 --> 00:47:58,747
Speaker 3: I know the lot of the fans and I include

891
00:47:58,747 --> 00:48:01,827
Speaker 3: myself as one of those. Caine we've missed, We've missed

892
00:48:01,907 --> 00:48:05,747
Speaker 3: home games, haven't really played since what December? What do

893
00:48:05,747 --> 00:48:07,587
Speaker 3: you think the future is looking like as far as

894
00:48:07,867 --> 00:48:10,267
Speaker 3: playing at home? There's all sorts of discussion going on

895
00:48:10,307 --> 00:48:13,347
Speaker 3: around where the future lies with New Zealand cricket playing.

896
00:48:13,347 --> 00:48:15,507
Speaker 3: You're going to play a part of that, whatever aspect

897
00:48:15,547 --> 00:48:17,867
Speaker 3: it is. But how do you think it's tracking at

898
00:48:17,867 --> 00:48:20,267
Speaker 3: the moment. Do you think it's working and going in

899
00:48:20,307 --> 00:48:23,387
Speaker 3: the right direction with people involved at a higher level?

900
00:48:24,827 --> 00:48:27,067
Speaker 13: Look, I think it has to be the focus.

901
00:48:27,587 --> 00:48:30,427
Speaker 15: There are obvious challenges at the moment, and I think

902
00:48:30,427 --> 00:48:33,547
Speaker 15: when you finish a world event there's.

903
00:48:32,747 --> 00:48:35,627
Speaker 13: Always a few things that can be a bit frustrating.

904
00:48:35,627 --> 00:48:38,507
Speaker 15: We've got it you know, a bilateral series coming up

905
00:48:38,547 --> 00:48:41,467
Speaker 15: which against South Africa, so there's a bit.

906
00:48:41,387 --> 00:48:42,067
Speaker 13: Of content there.

907
00:48:42,067 --> 00:48:44,787
Speaker 15: But I know that there's a big focus to try

908
00:48:44,787 --> 00:48:50,107
Speaker 15: and keep the international bilateral cricket relevant and play some

909
00:48:50,147 --> 00:48:51,147
Speaker 15: context on it.

910
00:48:51,227 --> 00:48:56,427
Speaker 13: So that's a yeah, there's no shortage of cricket.

911
00:48:56,067 --> 00:49:00,587
Speaker 15: But it's that constant sort of grapple with how everything

912
00:49:00,667 --> 00:49:05,307
Speaker 15: fits with franchise space, international space and amongst world events.

913
00:49:05,307 --> 00:49:08,507
Speaker 15: So look at I know that is the conversations that

914
00:49:08,507 --> 00:49:10,587
Speaker 15: are that are ongoing and they're trying to come up.

915
00:49:11,707 --> 00:49:12,667
Speaker 15: But it's the challenge.

916
00:49:12,827 --> 00:49:15,907
Speaker 3: Have you got any involvement of these conversations. They're go cane,

917
00:49:15,907 --> 00:49:17,347
Speaker 3: you're quite handy. What do you reckon?

918
00:49:21,427 --> 00:49:24,027
Speaker 13: Informally the odd conversation?

919
00:49:24,187 --> 00:49:27,347
Speaker 15: And you know a little bit through perhaps that the

920
00:49:27,347 --> 00:49:31,067
Speaker 15: players association, But there's a lot of moving parts at

921
00:49:31,067 --> 00:49:32,747
Speaker 15: the moment, which I'm sure you're aware of, and so

922
00:49:33,067 --> 00:49:36,227
Speaker 15: they're looking to sort that out, I suppose, and then

923
00:49:36,307 --> 00:49:38,707
Speaker 15: get onto some of these pressing topics.

924
00:49:39,267 --> 00:49:41,427
Speaker 3: In essence, I think there has to be an international

925
00:49:41,467 --> 00:49:45,267
Speaker 3: program put in place with possibly windows so we know

926
00:49:45,427 --> 00:49:47,947
Speaker 3: when we're playing and then the guys can go off

927
00:49:47,987 --> 00:49:51,507
Speaker 3: and play franchise cricket. Does that seem like the correct

928
00:49:51,547 --> 00:49:53,987
Speaker 3: shape if it can get organized in your.

929
00:49:53,867 --> 00:49:57,387
Speaker 13: Opinion, yeah, I think it needs space.

930
00:49:57,467 --> 00:50:00,787
Speaker 15: So then whatever cricket is on, it's prioritized at the moment.

931
00:50:01,387 --> 00:50:04,107
Speaker 15: There's just so many clashes, you know, of cricket, and

932
00:50:04,147 --> 00:50:08,067
Speaker 15: it makes I think fans and and people wanted to

933
00:50:08,107 --> 00:50:09,707
Speaker 15: watch it makes a bit complex.

934
00:50:09,747 --> 00:50:12,267
Speaker 13: So I know that's the focus. That's tough.

935
00:50:12,547 --> 00:50:17,147
Speaker 15: There's a lot of challenges, you know, amongst different nations

936
00:50:17,187 --> 00:50:18,747
Speaker 15: and some wanting to play others.

937
00:50:18,507 --> 00:50:19,227
Speaker 13: More, et cetera.

938
00:50:19,427 --> 00:50:23,867
Speaker 15: And yeah, so I think you're right in some respects.

939
00:50:23,907 --> 00:50:28,347
Speaker 15: It's trying to find windows where you know the priorities

940
00:50:28,747 --> 00:50:31,827
Speaker 15: are where you are, which is you know, the international

941
00:50:31,907 --> 00:50:34,227
Speaker 15: game and not having to kind.

942
00:50:33,987 --> 00:50:37,187
Speaker 13: Of have this this situation where.

943
00:50:37,187 --> 00:50:39,427
Speaker 15: You know you don't have your players available and I

944
00:50:39,467 --> 00:50:42,547
Speaker 15: know that's been probably a little bit frustrating in recent times,

945
00:50:42,587 --> 00:50:46,267
Speaker 15: but something that we hope to sort. But you know

946
00:50:46,307 --> 00:50:47,947
Speaker 15: that there's a lot of other people that have a

947
00:50:47,987 --> 00:50:50,067
Speaker 15: lot of power in shaping that picture.

948
00:50:51,107 --> 00:50:52,707
Speaker 7: You have a question, sorry to ask.

949
00:50:52,827 --> 00:50:55,627
Speaker 3: No dramas, So do you do you have a preference

950
00:50:55,907 --> 00:51:00,067
Speaker 3: around what format the franchise cricket takes in New Zealand

951
00:51:00,067 --> 00:51:02,987
Speaker 3: because there's big discussions around four different formats, No, and

952
00:51:03,067 --> 00:51:06,427
Speaker 3: knows where it stands. Do you lean in a particular direction.

953
00:51:07,867 --> 00:51:08,827
Speaker 13: In which format?

954
00:51:09,027 --> 00:51:11,747
Speaker 3: Yeah? I are either the NZ twenty or the Super

955
00:51:11,747 --> 00:51:13,707
Speaker 3: Smash or carrying on with big Besh.

956
00:51:14,707 --> 00:51:20,107
Speaker 15: I think the NZ twenties are super exciting prospect and

957
00:51:20,147 --> 00:51:22,387
Speaker 15: I think it would be fantastic for the game and

958
00:51:22,747 --> 00:51:26,867
Speaker 15: our country. And you know, we're probably the last I

959
00:51:26,867 --> 00:51:30,907
Speaker 15: think we are the last international country to international playing

960
00:51:30,947 --> 00:51:35,627
Speaker 15: nation really to have our own franchised competition, which kind

961
00:51:35,667 --> 00:51:39,067
Speaker 15: of gives it, you know, its own energy. And I

962
00:51:39,107 --> 00:51:42,347
Speaker 15: think it'd be fantastic to have a domestic competition in

963
00:51:42,387 --> 00:51:46,227
Speaker 15: our own country that could get some great support, and

964
00:51:46,227 --> 00:51:47,867
Speaker 15: I think it'd be great for the fans as well.

965
00:51:47,947 --> 00:51:50,747
Speaker 13: So let's see, there's a bit going on.

966
00:51:51,067 --> 00:51:52,747
Speaker 3: Can I cook these squeas In the last one? What

967
00:51:52,787 --> 00:51:54,587
Speaker 3: have you made of the black Caps fighting a game

968
00:51:54,587 --> 00:51:57,627
Speaker 3: at the final hurdle? G It's frustrating, isn't it? Kane?

969
00:51:58,667 --> 00:51:58,907
Speaker 4: Yeah?

970
00:51:58,907 --> 00:52:02,307
Speaker 15: Look, they I thought they were outstanding throughout that competition.

971
00:52:04,027 --> 00:52:07,947
Speaker 15: I really thought, you know, they and all the different

972
00:52:07,947 --> 00:52:11,267
Speaker 15: conditions that you might expect in two different countries in

973
00:52:11,267 --> 00:52:15,187
Speaker 15: India and then in Sri Lanka, and they had a

974
00:52:15,187 --> 00:52:17,347
Speaker 15: clear pattern with how they wanted to do it, and

975
00:52:17,347 --> 00:52:19,947
Speaker 15: that was to go with the you know, the strongest

976
00:52:19,947 --> 00:52:22,987
Speaker 15: sort of depth in their batting, and I really think

977
00:52:23,027 --> 00:52:27,267
Speaker 15: it paid off and they sort of elevated. I thought

978
00:52:27,307 --> 00:52:31,067
Speaker 15: that their performance are out and then to go into

979
00:52:31,067 --> 00:52:34,187
Speaker 15: a semi and and achieve what they did.

980
00:52:33,987 --> 00:52:38,307
Speaker 13: There, it was magnificent. To meet the juggernaut of India

981
00:52:38,667 --> 00:52:40,067
Speaker 13: on a kind a good.

982
00:52:40,027 --> 00:52:44,147
Speaker 15: Day for India is an incredibly tough assignment for anyone,

983
00:52:44,227 --> 00:52:48,187
Speaker 15: and frustrating that I guess that happened to be the case.

984
00:52:48,227 --> 00:52:51,987
Speaker 15: I mean, they did go into the tournament as favorites

985
00:52:52,027 --> 00:52:55,387
Speaker 15: and when they played their full pretension, that's that is

986
00:52:55,507 --> 00:52:57,587
Speaker 15: the case. And they'd managed to do that in the

987
00:52:57,587 --> 00:53:00,027
Speaker 15: semi final and the final, you know, scoring two point

988
00:53:00,027 --> 00:53:04,067
Speaker 15: fifty plus and both of those games. It's from their perspective,

989
00:53:04,067 --> 00:53:07,667
Speaker 15: they couldn't have done it any more perfectly. From our perspective,

990
00:53:07,787 --> 00:53:11,627
Speaker 15: very frustrating, but look, we continue to put ourselves in

991
00:53:11,667 --> 00:53:15,747
Speaker 15: the right parts of competitions and I've got no doubt

992
00:53:15,787 --> 00:53:19,547
Speaker 15: that there's a great pathway there that the team keeps improving,

993
00:53:20,067 --> 00:53:23,147
Speaker 15: it keeps slightly adjusting their style of cricket to take

994
00:53:23,187 --> 00:53:26,507
Speaker 15: on the world and that's what we saw. Yeah, I

995
00:53:26,547 --> 00:53:30,347
Speaker 15: know it's not ideal, but our time will come and

996
00:53:30,627 --> 00:53:31,947
Speaker 15: it's great to see where we're hitting.

997
00:53:32,307 --> 00:53:34,067
Speaker 3: I believe it as well. I'll tell you what. Thanks

998
00:53:34,107 --> 00:53:36,467
Speaker 3: so much for your time, came Williamson for that you

999
00:53:36,507 --> 00:53:38,987
Speaker 3: can strap a box on me and fire a cannon

1000
00:53:38,987 --> 00:53:40,547
Speaker 3: at man. I'll take the hit for you, bro.

1001
00:53:40,707 --> 00:53:42,507
Speaker 4: Thank you, and I'm just waiting.

1002
00:53:42,827 --> 00:53:45,667
Speaker 13: Darcy signed up for testing as well. Thanks Mane.

1003
00:53:46,227 --> 00:53:50,507
Speaker 3: I may live to regret that we will see. It

1004
00:53:50,587 --> 00:53:56,547
Speaker 3: is twenty minutes after one Sunday afternoon. Caine Williamson, former

1005
00:53:56,947 --> 00:54:01,707
Speaker 3: Black Caps skipper and possibly the greatest cricketer that New

1006
00:54:01,747 --> 00:54:07,107
Speaker 3: Zealand has ever produced, got a new thought process that

1007
00:54:07,147 --> 00:54:09,547
Speaker 3: I'd quite like to protect my family jewels, and he's

1008
00:54:09,627 --> 00:54:12,227
Speaker 3: climbed it right into it. The proof of the pudding

1009
00:54:12,307 --> 00:54:13,947
Speaker 3: is in the eating. Not that I'm going to eat

1010
00:54:13,987 --> 00:54:16,227
Speaker 3: a box, but maybe when I get the cannon fired

1011
00:54:16,307 --> 00:54:19,067
Speaker 3: at me, I'll find if it works. A lot interesting

1012
00:54:19,067 --> 00:54:24,067
Speaker 3: words are from Cain around what happens next with the

1013
00:54:24,187 --> 00:54:26,787
Speaker 3: T twenty format here in New Zealand. We spoke about

1014
00:54:26,867 --> 00:54:32,947
Speaker 3: that yesterday with Justin Forn, former CEO of in Zed Cricket.

1015
00:54:33,467 --> 00:54:38,987
Speaker 3: He suggested we take our time, be patient, be well

1016
00:54:39,027 --> 00:54:42,387
Speaker 3: advised before we fall into it. Increasingly, it looks like

1017
00:54:42,467 --> 00:54:45,267
Speaker 3: in Z twenty is the way this is going to go.

1018
00:54:46,907 --> 00:54:51,027
Speaker 3: Right then, right there, you just heard, came Williamson, essentially

1019
00:54:51,267 --> 00:54:56,227
Speaker 3: fully endorse in ZED twenty. That's the way he wants

1020
00:54:56,267 --> 00:54:59,587
Speaker 3: to go. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty free phone

1021
00:54:59,627 --> 00:55:02,787
Speaker 3: number Nation. Why do you can text nineteen nineteen zbzbist

1022
00:55:02,787 --> 00:55:05,387
Speaker 3: out A text charge does apply? Is that enough for you?

1023
00:55:06,347 --> 00:55:09,427
Speaker 3: If came Williamson says, we go in ZED twenty, do

1024
00:55:09,547 --> 00:55:12,107
Speaker 3: we just throw our hands in there and go. You can.

1025
00:55:12,627 --> 00:55:16,267
Speaker 3: You've studied the ship. You are completely right. We're running

1026
00:55:16,307 --> 00:55:19,227
Speaker 3: with you. Just a thought, give us a tankle It's

1027
00:55:20,587 --> 00:55:22,667
Speaker 3: it's one twenty one.

1028
00:55:25,187 --> 00:55:28,947
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1029
00:55:29,147 --> 00:55:33,387
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1030
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1031
00:55:34,867 --> 00:55:38,387
Speaker 3: Be It's one twenty four. We can sport here on

1032
00:55:38,627 --> 00:55:41,547
Speaker 3: News Talk z B. My mind. What a game of

1033
00:55:41,787 --> 00:55:46,347
Speaker 3: rugby union last night we had Super Rugby Pacific. The

1034
00:55:46,427 --> 00:55:49,627
Speaker 3: Hylanders basically pulled the pants down and Crusaders at round

1035
00:55:49,667 --> 00:55:52,347
Speaker 3: one went down like a cup of cold second red

1036
00:55:52,347 --> 00:55:56,147
Speaker 3: a black land. So they tuned around and attempted to

1037
00:55:56,227 --> 00:55:57,627
Speaker 3: do something about it.

1038
00:55:59,467 --> 00:56:01,827
Speaker 16: The boss got behind out the flood and Nick is

1039
00:56:01,867 --> 00:56:03,787
Speaker 16: flexi out of the back that's got water ortern't and

1040
00:56:03,827 --> 00:56:06,027
Speaker 16: it is well in the touch and then'll be at

1041
00:56:06,027 --> 00:56:10,827
Speaker 16: five the Crusaders they have been's here to feat you

1042
00:56:10,987 --> 00:56:15,747
Speaker 16: round one against the Highlanders here an Apollo Project Stadium

1043
00:56:15,947 --> 00:56:17,147
Speaker 16: by twenty.

1044
00:56:16,867 --> 00:56:21,027
Speaker 3: Nine points to eighteen. There was a bit plenty, and

1045
00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:23,427
Speaker 3: when you spend the thirty minutes of your game with

1046
00:56:23,547 --> 00:56:26,147
Speaker 3: only fourteen players on the park, you'd also say that

1047
00:56:26,227 --> 00:56:29,027
Speaker 3: was quite lucky that result. We go now to the

1048
00:56:29,067 --> 00:56:33,627
Speaker 3: coaching staff of the Crusader's assistant coach, Dan Perrin joins

1049
00:56:33,667 --> 00:56:36,947
Speaker 3: the program now. So Dan, after that, you'd be feeling

1050
00:56:37,267 --> 00:56:38,107
Speaker 3: pretty relieved.

1051
00:56:39,267 --> 00:56:42,267
Speaker 10: Yeah, morning Darth. Yeah, And I'm I'm very really very

1052
00:56:42,307 --> 00:56:45,547
Speaker 10: hippy for the boys. A little bit of hurt in

1053
00:56:45,587 --> 00:56:47,827
Speaker 10: there from round one and the last time we were

1054
00:56:47,867 --> 00:56:52,347
Speaker 10: at home the Brumbies taught us a lesson, so we've

1055
00:56:52,507 --> 00:56:55,027
Speaker 10: sort of delved into that throughout the week. Sort of

1056
00:56:55,027 --> 00:56:57,867
Speaker 10: a bit of internal motivation there for us. So for

1057
00:56:57,907 --> 00:57:00,507
Speaker 10: the boys to go out there and it wasn't pretty.

1058
00:57:00,547 --> 00:57:04,987
Speaker 10: It wasn't clean. Playing with fourteen players to thirty minutes

1059
00:57:04,987 --> 00:57:07,907
Speaker 10: probably didn't help the cause either, But you're just really

1060
00:57:07,947 --> 00:57:09,947
Speaker 10: proud of some of the effort that they put in

1061
00:57:10,147 --> 00:57:13,907
Speaker 10: the kere they showed to you protect your home.

1062
00:57:14,627 --> 00:57:16,947
Speaker 3: Imagine what you could do if you actually had a

1063
00:57:16,947 --> 00:57:19,907
Speaker 3: full compliment for the full eighty minute.

1064
00:57:20,267 --> 00:57:22,747
Speaker 10: Oh mate, it's been the story of this season. I

1065
00:57:22,747 --> 00:57:25,267
Speaker 10: think we've said that might be five yellow cards in

1066
00:57:25,307 --> 00:57:27,787
Speaker 10: total now already, So yeah, it's anywhere of the game

1067
00:57:27,827 --> 00:57:30,427
Speaker 10: we need to need to tidy up. I think four

1068
00:57:30,427 --> 00:57:35,027
Speaker 10: of those have been been high shots as well. So yeah,

1069
00:57:35,107 --> 00:57:38,067
Speaker 10: I think between the coaching crew and Matt Todd that

1070
00:57:38,227 --> 00:57:41,707
Speaker 10: there might be a little bit of tackle technique craft

1071
00:57:41,747 --> 00:57:44,467
Speaker 10: technic this week. But yeah, like you said, if we

1072
00:57:44,547 --> 00:57:46,867
Speaker 10: can keep fifteen on the field, and it's definitely going

1073
00:57:46,947 --> 00:57:50,187
Speaker 10: to help out with him and yes, set piece in

1074
00:57:50,227 --> 00:57:52,507
Speaker 10: particular as well because a few of them moving forwards.

1075
00:57:52,787 --> 00:57:55,387
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can tell players till you're blue in the face,

1076
00:57:55,547 --> 00:57:58,107
Speaker 3: don't do it. What does it take for them to

1077
00:57:58,187 --> 00:58:01,027
Speaker 3: actually take that advice? To click that over? Where it's

1078
00:58:01,027 --> 00:58:04,267
Speaker 3: got to come from an internal thought process or is

1079
00:58:04,307 --> 00:58:07,867
Speaker 3: it just wrote learning repeat? How do you go about

1080
00:58:07,907 --> 00:58:09,427
Speaker 3: doing this and saying no.

1081
00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:13,787
Speaker 10: Yeah, we spent a lot of time on tackle technique,

1082
00:58:13,827 --> 00:58:16,427
Speaker 10: and you know, we walk it, we talk it, we

1083
00:58:16,547 --> 00:58:18,627
Speaker 10: run it, we do it live. What the boys do

1084
00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:22,787
Speaker 10: put hours and hours into their craft. And I guess

1085
00:58:22,827 --> 00:58:24,947
Speaker 10: what we've got to understand is a pretty dynamic game

1086
00:58:25,027 --> 00:58:28,267
Speaker 10: and things can pictures can change and split second and

1087
00:58:28,707 --> 00:58:30,947
Speaker 10: you know, I look back to Don Gardner's in the

1088
00:58:31,027 --> 00:58:35,427
Speaker 10: earlier rounds, I look at shave Fijckey's on the weekend.

1089
00:58:37,867 --> 00:58:41,067
Speaker 10: Boris was one that you know, you could have, you know, mitigated.

1090
00:58:41,107 --> 00:58:44,147
Speaker 10: That was a bit of decision there. But yeah, a

1091
00:58:44,187 --> 00:58:47,107
Speaker 10: lot of it's happening in split second. So just lowering

1092
00:58:47,187 --> 00:58:49,587
Speaker 10: our body hide in general around the field, I think,

1093
00:58:49,907 --> 00:58:52,867
Speaker 10: and making sure we target beneath the balls. That second

1094
00:58:52,867 --> 00:58:56,867
Speaker 10: shoulders tackler is something we work on a lot. So

1095
00:58:57,547 --> 00:59:01,107
Speaker 10: but yeah, our reactions split second decision making that we

1096
00:59:01,267 --> 00:59:03,587
Speaker 10: need to be better there because yeah, it's gonna it's

1097
00:59:03,627 --> 00:59:05,107
Speaker 10: going to cost us dearly at some point.

1098
00:59:05,507 --> 00:59:08,747
Speaker 3: So tell us about the condition of your players, who's

1099
00:59:08,867 --> 00:59:11,547
Speaker 3: come through, who hasn't, What kind of state are the

1100
00:59:11,627 --> 00:59:14,347
Speaker 3: boys in and we're looking forward of course to mine.

1101
00:59:14,347 --> 00:59:16,067
Speaker 3: I pussy ificure, isn't it next week.

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00:59:17,707 --> 00:59:19,987
Speaker 10: A lot better off than we were this time last week.

1103
00:59:20,107 --> 00:59:22,707
Speaker 10: So the injury reports just come in. There's three or

1104
00:59:22,707 --> 00:59:26,307
Speaker 10: four on there. They've all got green dots beside their name,

1105
00:59:26,307 --> 00:59:30,267
Speaker 10: which is good. So I think, yeah, you're winning. Definitely helps,

1106
00:59:30,627 --> 00:59:32,867
Speaker 10: but we've had some boys that have put I had

1107
00:59:32,867 --> 00:59:35,627
Speaker 10: to play tough on the weekend, especially some of our

1108
00:59:35,667 --> 00:59:38,707
Speaker 10: second rowers. We were getting pretty light there with Jamie

1109
00:59:38,707 --> 00:59:43,427
Speaker 10: Henner and Liam check Out, so really proud of Antonio

1110
00:59:43,547 --> 00:59:48,507
Speaker 10: Shelfon and Taylor. Taylor Kaye actually played with a broken

1111
00:59:52,387 --> 00:59:55,507
Speaker 10: bone in his chest, so yeah, he played played for

1112
00:59:55,587 --> 00:59:57,787
Speaker 10: pretty tough and had a great performance. And Antonio and

1113
00:59:57,827 --> 01:00:00,867
Speaker 10: Will Tucker as well, both runder injury clouds throughout the week,

1114
01:00:00,947 --> 01:00:04,227
Speaker 10: so they've all come through with fine colors. And yeah,

1115
01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:08,187
Speaker 10: we'll assess a couple hopefully d back this week as well.

1116
01:00:08,267 --> 01:00:11,667
Speaker 10: So yeah, stocks are on the rise a little bit

1117
01:00:11,827 --> 01:00:14,787
Speaker 10: from the injury front, and I think after Moana, we've

1118
01:00:14,787 --> 01:00:16,467
Speaker 10: got the bye week and it's going to come at

1119
01:00:16,467 --> 01:00:17,787
Speaker 10: a pretty heay time for us.

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01:00:18,267 --> 01:00:21,667
Speaker 3: You are former Michael player, so you'd be looking to

1121
01:00:21,907 --> 01:00:24,947
Speaker 3: the Tasman players that are out there smiling from ear

1122
01:00:24,987 --> 01:00:28,627
Speaker 3: to ear and then contribution to the Crusaders over many

1123
01:00:28,707 --> 01:00:32,027
Speaker 3: years has been gold. Looks like you found another one

1124
01:00:32,547 --> 01:00:35,147
Speaker 3: is a Christ's kid. He's from Christ's moved up to

1125
01:00:35,227 --> 01:00:39,267
Speaker 3: sunny Land. Tell us a wee bit more about what

1126
01:00:39,467 --> 01:00:42,987
Speaker 3: they're calling him, Ethan Blackadder part two.

1127
01:00:44,867 --> 01:00:51,507
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's dead ringer for Ethan actually, and yeah, we've

1128
01:00:51,507 --> 01:00:54,227
Speaker 10: been tracking Johnny for a week while right through you

1129
01:00:54,267 --> 01:00:57,587
Speaker 10: know those days at christ College, and yeah, I think

1130
01:00:57,627 --> 01:00:59,307
Speaker 10: he made the move. You know, there were quite a

1131
01:00:59,307 --> 01:01:03,947
Speaker 10: few flankers around in Kenterbury with Cory Kello and Tom

1132
01:01:04,027 --> 01:01:06,347
Speaker 10: Christy at the time, so you know he's seen an

1133
01:01:06,387 --> 01:01:08,427
Speaker 10: opportunity to get up there and Kasman just to get

1134
01:01:08,467 --> 01:01:10,667
Speaker 10: game time at NPC in a bit more exposure at

1135
01:01:10,667 --> 01:01:13,267
Speaker 10: a high level. And you know his work at the

1136
01:01:13,307 --> 01:01:15,387
Speaker 10: New Zealand Nuther twenties and World Cup a couple of

1137
01:01:15,427 --> 01:01:19,027
Speaker 10: years ago was I think he started and almost played

1138
01:01:19,067 --> 01:01:21,307
Speaker 10: every minute of every game on that. So he's got

1139
01:01:21,347 --> 01:01:23,867
Speaker 10: a massive engine. He's a big body, he has some

1140
01:01:24,147 --> 01:01:28,547
Speaker 10: athlete and character. He is a dead seat ring of

1141
01:01:28,587 --> 01:01:32,027
Speaker 10: Forreathan Blackhead. It just loves the grind, loves the unseen

1142
01:01:32,067 --> 01:01:36,947
Speaker 10: ef It's his work ethic, not just in the game,

1143
01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:40,867
Speaker 10: but you know in the gym on the computers, extremely

1144
01:01:40,947 --> 01:01:45,227
Speaker 10: diligent and just a great human that you know, wants

1145
01:01:45,267 --> 01:01:46,907
Speaker 10: to be better and wants to make the people around

1146
01:01:46,947 --> 01:01:49,307
Speaker 10: him better. So we've got a lot of time for Johnny.

1147
01:01:49,347 --> 01:01:51,987
Speaker 10: He's got a massive future. And yeah, we're just really

1148
01:01:52,027 --> 01:01:55,227
Speaker 10: proud of, you know, as ef it throughout the week

1149
01:01:55,267 --> 01:01:58,467
Speaker 10: to set himself up and get a crack at the

1150
01:01:58,467 --> 01:02:02,067
Speaker 10: big time. He'd been playing extremely well for our development fifteen,

1151
01:02:02,627 --> 01:02:05,267
Speaker 10: probably the player of the game, and all four of

1152
01:02:05,307 --> 01:02:07,947
Speaker 10: those fixtures he deserved the opportunity, and we.

1153
01:02:08,027 --> 01:02:11,187
Speaker 3: Really wrap from Johnny Lee looks something else. It looks

1154
01:02:11,227 --> 01:02:14,827
Speaker 3: like a Hessian bag full of elbows, shoulders and knees too.

1155
01:02:14,827 --> 01:02:15,987
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to tackle that.

1156
01:02:18,707 --> 01:02:21,147
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, we stay away from him when we're holding

1157
01:02:21,187 --> 01:02:24,427
Speaker 10: Hitch shields, that's for sure. Matt Todd as laid claimed,

1158
01:02:24,787 --> 01:02:27,067
Speaker 10: he's probably the hardest hit and Toddy still wants to

1159
01:02:27,067 --> 01:02:29,347
Speaker 10: hold the Hits shields just to get a feel for

1160
01:02:29,387 --> 01:02:32,467
Speaker 10: these guys tackling, and Johnny's right up there when he

1161
01:02:32,547 --> 01:02:33,787
Speaker 10: hits those things.

1162
01:02:33,587 --> 01:02:36,867
Speaker 3: That was a positive, plainly the cards were a negative.

1163
01:02:37,067 --> 01:02:40,147
Speaker 3: What else do you look toward after that game and go, hey,

1164
01:02:40,227 --> 01:02:43,267
Speaker 3: you know what that actually settling really well after what's

1165
01:02:43,347 --> 01:02:45,627
Speaker 3: been a pretty tumultuous season.

1166
01:02:47,667 --> 01:02:50,467
Speaker 10: Yeah, just just just a rhythm. You know, we're our

1167
01:02:50,507 --> 01:02:53,467
Speaker 10: own with enemy in the first four rounds. You know,

1168
01:02:53,787 --> 01:02:56,107
Speaker 10: even looking at that Chiefs game, we got away with

1169
01:02:56,187 --> 01:03:01,107
Speaker 10: a couple of there after a poor start. So we've

1170
01:03:01,227 --> 01:03:03,947
Speaker 10: just been focusing on ourselves and you know, our era

1171
01:03:04,147 --> 01:03:07,027
Speaker 10: rate was far too high and those early parts of

1172
01:03:07,027 --> 01:03:11,267
Speaker 10: Super Rugby, you know that it was better on the weekend.

1173
01:03:11,267 --> 01:03:14,107
Speaker 10: There's still some areas that about handling and decision making

1174
01:03:14,547 --> 01:03:18,867
Speaker 10: that we need to tidy up, but for the most part, yeah,

1175
01:03:18,947 --> 01:03:22,347
Speaker 10: decision making obviously, discipline would been okay. I think thirteen

1176
01:03:22,347 --> 01:03:25,267
Speaker 10: penalties three yellow cards is is an area where really

1177
01:03:25,267 --> 01:03:27,387
Speaker 10: have to tidy up, as we spoke about before, and

1178
01:03:28,507 --> 01:03:31,547
Speaker 10: you know, an area that I'm in charge of around

1179
01:03:31,547 --> 01:03:33,027
Speaker 10: the line out. I think it was the best line

1180
01:03:33,027 --> 01:03:36,347
Speaker 10: out performance of the season so far as well. So

1181
01:03:36,387 --> 01:03:39,587
Speaker 10: there'd been a few honest conversations throughout the week and yeah,

1182
01:03:39,667 --> 01:03:42,307
Speaker 10: really stoked for the boys and how the line out operated.

1183
01:03:42,347 --> 01:03:44,587
Speaker 10: It yet ten out of ten on the weekend, So

1184
01:03:45,507 --> 01:03:47,107
Speaker 10: a couple of areas to tidy up. In a couple

1185
01:03:47,147 --> 01:03:49,027
Speaker 10: of areas here that we're really proud of Yeah.

1186
01:03:48,907 --> 01:03:51,267
Speaker 3: I dare I say, you really couldn't go much further

1187
01:03:51,307 --> 01:03:54,547
Speaker 3: back with the line out, now, could you. Sorry, but

1188
01:03:54,627 --> 01:03:57,267
Speaker 3: it wasn't looking great and no.

1189
01:03:57,467 --> 01:03:59,547
Speaker 10: Well we were actually we won ninety four percent of

1190
01:03:59,587 --> 01:04:01,627
Speaker 10: the ball against the Blues. But you've got to look

1191
01:04:01,667 --> 01:04:03,347
Speaker 10: at the whole picture and the quality of ball that

1192
01:04:03,387 --> 01:04:07,427
Speaker 10: we were delivering and one line that got pushed out

1193
01:04:07,427 --> 01:04:10,187
Speaker 10: over the sideline which just you know isn't good enough,

1194
01:04:10,627 --> 01:04:13,827
Speaker 10: and then three deliveries to our half back, whether the

1195
01:04:13,867 --> 01:04:16,067
Speaker 10: half back had overrun it or our delivery from the

1196
01:04:16,067 --> 01:04:18,627
Speaker 10: top of the line out wasn't wasn't great. So you know,

1197
01:04:18,707 --> 01:04:22,107
Speaker 10: it's winning the balls one thing, but delivering top quality

1198
01:04:22,147 --> 01:04:26,147
Speaker 10: ball and or applying pressure through your mall, you know,

1199
01:04:26,467 --> 01:04:29,547
Speaker 10: is the big picture. So you have some really honest

1200
01:04:29,547 --> 01:04:32,787
Speaker 10: conversations on Monday morning with the whole forward pack around,

1201
01:04:33,947 --> 01:04:35,827
Speaker 10: you know, our diligence to the line at the work

1202
01:04:35,867 --> 01:04:39,227
Speaker 10: we're putting in, and it wasn't one specific area was

1203
01:04:39,267 --> 01:04:42,187
Speaker 10: it was everything across the board. So it was it

1204
01:04:42,227 --> 01:04:44,307
Speaker 10: was great to see the players respond the way they

1205
01:04:44,307 --> 01:04:46,987
Speaker 10: did this weekend, and you know, the trajectories on the

1206
01:04:47,027 --> 01:04:50,027
Speaker 10: way up I believe, so yeah, they're really proud of.

1207
01:04:49,987 --> 01:04:53,667
Speaker 3: Them, Dan parent, thanks so much for your time as always,

1208
01:04:54,107 --> 01:04:56,867
Speaker 3: wishing you the best of best weeks. Get stuck in

1209
01:04:57,027 --> 01:05:00,187
Speaker 3: and maybe keep the locks and the props separated.

1210
01:05:03,387 --> 01:05:05,267
Speaker 10: Bring it back again and worked for us during the week.

1211
01:05:05,387 --> 01:05:06,307
Speaker 7: I give us more.

1212
01:05:07,507 --> 01:05:10,507
Speaker 3: Akay, Dan, we will see you. Just make sure I

1213
01:05:10,547 --> 01:05:13,027
Speaker 3: won't film it and report back to it. Dan Peering,

1214
01:05:13,067 --> 01:05:17,747
Speaker 3: the assistant coach of the Crusaders. I suggested Beauillian because

1215
01:05:17,787 --> 01:05:20,267
Speaker 3: they managed to pick up a win. Wo'd been pretty

1216
01:05:20,307 --> 01:05:24,427
Speaker 3: awful going into the sixth round with only one win,

1217
01:05:24,587 --> 01:05:27,467
Speaker 3: but as it happens here two and three so working

1218
01:05:27,467 --> 01:05:31,387
Speaker 3: out okay for the Crusaders. For the Red and Black.

1219
01:05:31,667 --> 01:05:33,987
Speaker 3: You got a comment on that performance, I'd love to

1220
01:05:33,987 --> 01:05:36,547
Speaker 3: hear from you. At one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1221
01:05:36,867 --> 01:05:39,267
Speaker 3: you can text nineteen nineteen zbz bes and a text

1222
01:05:39,387 --> 01:05:43,107
Speaker 3: charge does apply. How on earth this team played for

1223
01:05:44,347 --> 01:05:48,707
Speaker 3: thirty minutes with only fourteen players is beyond me? And

1224
01:05:48,787 --> 01:05:53,307
Speaker 3: how good was Johnny Lee? Oh, another mad lea SI

1225
01:05:53,747 --> 01:05:57,667
Speaker 3: coming out of the Canterbury region. Well he is initially

1226
01:05:57,667 --> 01:05:59,387
Speaker 3: from christ Church. I know he's moved up to the

1227
01:05:59,467 --> 01:06:04,707
Speaker 3: Markell now so kids in Nelson can claim him absolutely

1228
01:06:04,907 --> 01:06:07,667
Speaker 3: still to come in the program chatting with our regular

1229
01:06:07,707 --> 01:06:12,667
Speaker 3: correspondent of a Sunday mister James mcconey. Shortly and as

1230
01:06:12,707 --> 01:06:14,987
Speaker 3: a heads up for you around the AFC and who

1231
01:06:15,027 --> 01:06:18,307
Speaker 3: doesn't want to go and see Auckland football after what

1232
01:06:18,587 --> 01:06:22,827
Speaker 3: happened yesterday and they managed to beat I believe Newcastle

1233
01:06:22,867 --> 01:06:25,267
Speaker 3: that's the first time they've been beaten this year. So

1234
01:06:25,307 --> 01:06:28,827
Speaker 3: that was a great result from Auckland FC yesterday. They

1235
01:06:28,867 --> 01:06:35,027
Speaker 3: take on MACARTHURFC next Saturday, March twenty first, go Media Stadium.

1236
01:06:35,307 --> 01:06:37,427
Speaker 3: If you're going to be in Auckland and you'd like

1237
01:06:37,507 --> 01:06:40,787
Speaker 3: to be at the game, I've got a six ticket

1238
01:06:40,907 --> 01:06:44,667
Speaker 3: family pass up for grabs. Six ticket family pass if

1239
01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:47,507
Speaker 3: you like that. Just takes AFC and your name to

1240
01:06:47,587 --> 01:06:51,867
Speaker 3: nine two nine two and you are in the draw.

1241
01:06:52,267 --> 01:06:55,507
Speaker 3: Let's just whip through a couple of texts for you now.

1242
01:06:56,667 --> 01:07:01,427
Speaker 3: Typical Crusader's performance last night. Back to basics, good defense,

1243
01:07:01,507 --> 01:07:03,947
Speaker 3: better line now and when you put a starlight will

1244
01:07:04,147 --> 01:07:07,147
Speaker 3: Jordan and you look out for Johnny Lee. He's going

1245
01:07:07,187 --> 01:07:11,587
Speaker 3: to be one to watch. Yeah, I completely agree. Interesting

1246
01:07:11,627 --> 01:07:15,587
Speaker 3: thoughts around Cody Taylor from this text are Baz Cody

1247
01:07:15,627 --> 01:07:21,547
Speaker 3: Taylor attracts yellow cards by stupid actions and situations. He

1248
01:07:21,627 --> 01:07:24,947
Speaker 3: not only gives away yellow cards and Super Rugby, but

1249
01:07:25,027 --> 01:07:29,227
Speaker 3: he does it regularly in test matches. I've got no

1250
01:07:29,427 --> 01:07:33,547
Speaker 3: numbers behind me to either confirm or deny that. I

1251
01:07:33,667 --> 01:07:36,587
Speaker 3: think a lot of these players play right on the

1252
01:07:36,947 --> 01:07:41,947
Speaker 3: edge and as a direct result, sometimes they fall foul. Discipline, though,

1253
01:07:42,627 --> 01:07:46,947
Speaker 3: is the keyword. Long term, list is long time. Listens

1254
01:07:46,987 --> 01:07:51,627
Speaker 3: to my program over the week, sports Talk on Newstalk

1255
01:07:51,707 --> 01:07:55,107
Speaker 3: ZB will know how hot I am on discipline. And

1256
01:07:55,187 --> 01:07:57,547
Speaker 3: I go back to a conversation I had with Todd

1257
01:07:57,587 --> 01:08:01,107
Speaker 3: Blackadder back in the day talking about the winning and

1258
01:08:01,147 --> 01:08:03,467
Speaker 3: the losing of a Super Rugby final between the Blues

1259
01:08:03,987 --> 01:08:08,627
Speaker 3: and the Crusaders, and he said, wils down to one thing. Discipline.

1260
01:08:08,787 --> 01:08:11,107
Speaker 3: That's it. That's the winning and the losing of the

1261
01:08:11,147 --> 01:08:15,627
Speaker 3: game right there. It's gotta be of utmost important, especially

1262
01:08:15,747 --> 01:08:19,587
Speaker 3: tackle height. This is not a new law. People haven't

1263
01:08:19,987 --> 01:08:21,907
Speaker 3: found out in the last shower that they're going to

1264
01:08:21,947 --> 01:08:25,067
Speaker 3: get punished for cleaning people's heads out. And it's a

1265
01:08:25,147 --> 01:08:28,467
Speaker 3: dynamic game. Yes, I get it, I understand, but the

1266
01:08:28,507 --> 01:08:32,107
Speaker 3: onus is on the players not to get yellow carded

1267
01:08:32,347 --> 01:08:36,067
Speaker 3: right and after that match, after the Crusader has won

1268
01:08:36,147 --> 01:08:39,267
Speaker 3: a text message the next morning from Todd Blackett and

1269
01:08:39,307 --> 01:08:44,227
Speaker 3: it just said discipline. It's one at thirty seven and

1270
01:08:44,267 --> 01:08:47,267
Speaker 3: this is Weekend Sport here on News Talk ZB. James

1271
01:08:47,307 --> 01:08:51,347
Speaker 3: mconey from the crowd goes wild and the acc he

1272
01:08:51,547 --> 01:08:54,147
Speaker 3: joins us next cover off, but it was but six

1273
01:08:54,307 --> 01:08:58,107
Speaker 3: nations but super duper Rugby, maybe even n Z twenty.

1274
01:08:58,347 --> 01:09:00,507
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what's going on in

1275
01:09:00,507 --> 01:09:03,667
Speaker 3: that cavenous mind of his, but I'm very keen to

1276
01:09:03,787 --> 01:09:07,227
Speaker 3: explore it. Coming up next and I'll make sure I

1277
01:09:07,307 --> 01:09:11,347
Speaker 3: take my splinking helmet and some crampons to boot. This

1278
01:09:11,347 --> 01:09:14,067
Speaker 3: is News Talks here B one thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News Talk ZED.

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Speaker 3: B twenty to two. This is Weekend Sport on News

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Speaker 3: Talk at ZB. Coming up after two o'clock. We're talking

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Speaker 3: Formula one stick around for that, but right here, right now,

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Speaker 3: we've got them on loan for the best part of

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Speaker 3: it tonight, I'd say ten minutes rolling out from the

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Speaker 3: acc and the crowd goes wild, ladies and gentlemen. I

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Speaker 3: bring to you, mister Jsmcona, you know.

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Speaker 14: Mag Oh, thanks Darcy Woden intro sees. It was wonderful.

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Speaker 14: I make sure on my way to Eating Park shout

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Speaker 14: out to Eden Park because hosting a few of my

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Speaker 14: workmates from Sky who don't normally get to go to

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Speaker 14: the rugby some of the Fomer service people. But we're

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Speaker 14: going up into the lounge where they've got this quiz

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Speaker 14: to believe it or not quiz and it's my goal

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Speaker 14: to win that TV. I'm not saying I'm competitive, but

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Speaker 14: you know what, I'm like, Darcy, it's going to be

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Speaker 14: if my teammates don't deliver and pick up on some

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Speaker 14: of those you know, those other categories and I'm a

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Speaker 14: little bit weak on it's just say science. Let's just

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Speaker 14: get it out there.

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Speaker 3: My advice to you is keep away from the bar

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Speaker 3: before you start your quiz.

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Speaker 14: Yes, well, but you and I have hosted quizzes and

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Speaker 14: they get out of control. I don't know why. Some

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Speaker 14: quizzes have ten categories. Yeah, by category, sex is people

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Speaker 14: dancing on the tables.

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Speaker 3: Right, So this is the only good thing about my

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Speaker 3: job at night. I can't get the quizzes anymore because

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Speaker 3: I don't finish the later clock, so I don't have

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Speaker 3: a chance to embarrass myself on those quiz No one

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Speaker 3: cares about that, dare I say? Except us? People do

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Speaker 3: care about the Mighty Warriors now they're averaging over forty

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Speaker 3: points games so far and if not been playing cell

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Speaker 3: to all us? Have they?

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Speaker 4: James No?

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Speaker 14: And just the depth. I mean we've got Tanner Boyd

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Speaker 14: in there while Luke metcalf is slowly getting back to

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Speaker 14: the full fitness. That this is the whole thing that

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Speaker 14: the Wars with their depth, a scary team. And dare

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Speaker 14: I say, Leka Halasima, who is this burgeoning superstar just

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Speaker 14: doing lecqu of things and he is the hardest man

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Speaker 14: to handle in the NRL currently And with him on

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Speaker 14: our side and a few other I mean that left

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Speaker 14: edge which seems so clinical, with Janelle Harris Deavida, Roger

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Speaker 14: tu vasus Schek, the way they all combine, it's just

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Speaker 14: a thing of beauty right now that the Warriors and

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Speaker 14: Mitch One I know he's leaving Auckland. I mean a

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Speaker 14: lot of us want to leave Auckland. I'm good on you, Mitch.

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Speaker 14: But they look at the moment, every poster is a

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Speaker 14: winner for them, So things are looking up.

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Speaker 3: It's still got a chance to fall away, though we

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Speaker 3: know it. That's the nature of dealing with the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: And when I was talking last week, I was interested

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Speaker 3: that Missus Clark said, we're really good leaving that behind.

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Speaker 3: We just go That was great, Let's get away. And

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Speaker 3: this is something that's been repeated by coach Webster as well,

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Speaker 3: like Aaron Clark said to me, celebrate for ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: Then we've got work to do.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think we could handle a few injuries. You know,

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Speaker 14: there are some teams that can't cope with that. It's

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Speaker 14: just and we'll get to that soon. Not one team

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Speaker 14: in particular, like the Crusaders was. You know, if Will

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Speaker 14: Jordan's not in there, it's a different side. But I

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Speaker 14: think the Warriors can weather that. The one thing that

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Speaker 14: caught my own league though, of course, which a lot

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Speaker 14: of us would have watched, was Alex Johnston taking the

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Speaker 14: all time NRL try record off Ken Irvine. He scored

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Speaker 14: his two hundred and thirteenth try and it was amazing,

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Speaker 14: absolute scenes about five hundred maybe to one thousand people,

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Speaker 14: including the Prime Minister, stormed the pitch over in Sydney

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Speaker 14: and one poor guy got arrested by security. You can

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Speaker 14: see him just getting tackled and held down while everyone

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Speaker 14: else streamed on the field. And it was an incredible

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Speaker 14: moment in sport.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Nick do I say I was that guy

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Speaker 3: and he'll keep the video I'm sure way into the future.

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Speaker 3: Look look what happened to me. I was the only

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Speaker 3: goose I had to target someone.

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Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, I know how that's when you know you

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Speaker 14: lack his band, But I mean I actually applauded. I

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Speaker 14: think it was just a great thing to see and

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Speaker 14: even funnier to see a Rooster's fan the first one

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Speaker 14: to get on and congratulate him and a vintage Rooster's jersey.

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Speaker 14: And I actually quite like that the Rooster's got up

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Speaker 14: on one net because the I think that celebration sort

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Speaker 14: of stung the Roosters into action. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 14: always happy to see someone like Nafa, who white out

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Speaker 14: of Kelston West Auckland doing well for them. So you know,

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Speaker 14: even though I'm I'm wise all day since day one,

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Speaker 14: I still love seeing Kiwi's doing well on that stage.

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Speaker 3: Ah Kelston, my neighbors and grim Eaton always got time

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Speaker 3: for some Kelston crew. Six Nations? What is the six Nations?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was supposed to be a hard grind,

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Speaker 3: physical men, tight point scoring in this Bonker's Six Nations.

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Speaker 3: So fun. Congratulations to France. We've seen some ridiculous blowouts

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Speaker 3: and almost defense free rugby.

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Speaker 14: I no, dy're playing the beautiful game while we're struggling

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Speaker 14: around with our sort of box kick scenario here in

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Speaker 14: New Zealand. So I take my hat off to all

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Speaker 14: those nations, including Italy, who you know, up to beat Scotland,

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Speaker 14: beat England. They were just basically, you know, the big

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Speaker 14: giant killers of But the story is really how France

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Speaker 14: held on because England should have toppled them at Park

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Speaker 14: started to France this morning and somehow, somehow they got

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Speaker 14: a penalty. It was pretty much a fifteen meter kick

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Speaker 14: for Thomas Ramos who slotted the goal. But what a

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Speaker 14: disaster though the France wearing these vintage baby blue jerseys

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Speaker 14: that clashed with England's white jerseys. So I mean, I

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Speaker 14: was just thinking, are they going to get undone by

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Speaker 14: a wardrobe malfunction? Not a Janet Jackson one, but just

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Speaker 14: of their own making where they almost needed to go

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Speaker 14: to the merch store it started to France and buy

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Speaker 14: the classic dark blue because it was just a it

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Speaker 14: was a joke out there for a while.

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Speaker 3: This has been constant as long as I've been stinking

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Speaker 3: out the airwaves and sport radio in beforehand. We've had

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Speaker 3: issue with clashes with uniforms. Isn't that hard to sort.

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Speaker 14: Out on the biggest game of the season as well.

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Speaker 14: But look, France, I hope they've seen a decent team

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Speaker 14: down down here this year. They have got again speaking

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Speaker 14: of depth, they had a player out there on debut,

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Speaker 14: which is so French. Isn't it the biggest game of

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Speaker 14: the season, biggest game of the year? Out you go?

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Speaker 14: But they held on and I'm glad that when they're

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Speaker 14: going through tough times because to be honest, they had

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Speaker 14: their moment against New Zealand and really they celebrated so

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Speaker 14: hard like they'd won everything, and this is what they get.

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Speaker 3: They come up indeed, not unusual for them. It is

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Speaker 3: thirteen minutes away from too. James mcconi yet joined us

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Speaker 3: as we look at a weekend of sports Super Deeper

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Speaker 3: Rugby you said you're going off to Eden part o

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Speaker 3: the soafternoon to Morna pacifica I take on the Blues.

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Speaker 3: What else have you taken out of this weekend's exchanges.

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Speaker 14: Well, I look at the Hurricanes and I think, if

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Speaker 14: they can put together a great eighty minutes, it's gonna

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Speaker 14: be hard for teams to live with them. But that's

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Speaker 14: the asterisk. By that side. They seem to have this beautiful,

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Speaker 14: flowing rugby. If you think about that's something that is

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Speaker 14: amazing in March. Can it win them a title in June?

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Speaker 14: I guess is the question. I think the Hurricanes are

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Speaker 14: starting to flex a little. But the Crusaders, this is

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Speaker 14: where I look at that game. You're a Crusaders FANDARSI

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Speaker 14: with Will Jordan back just running that team. I haven't

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Speaker 14: seen a player that influential, just one player. I remember

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Speaker 14: Aaron Smith and Ben Smith being so crucial to that

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Speaker 14: championship winning Highlanders team back in twenty fifteen. But I

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Speaker 14: look at the way Will Jordan influences that Crusaders team.

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Speaker 14: It's massive right now. Can they do it again?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 14: I think they probably can because they have they getting

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Speaker 14: you know, some big forwards back. I think Scott Barrett

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Speaker 14: will be back for the business end. But for you

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Speaker 14: guys in Crusader Country, it's it's not It's not all roses,

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Speaker 14: is it.

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Speaker 17: No.

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Speaker 3: But we've got Johnny Lee. We've on earthed another one.

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Speaker 3: The guy's a freak, as I described before to Dann Perrin,

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Speaker 3: is in a hessy and bag full of elbows and

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Speaker 3: knees and skulls. He's huge and fast and really difficult.

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Speaker 3: And this is the new man coming through the seven jersey. Amazing.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I thought Johnny Lee has deserved his shot. For

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Speaker 14: a while, I've looked at him playing for Tasman and

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Speaker 14: hope that maybe when the Crusaders went and got Oli

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Speaker 14: Mathis from White Cuttle and took him down to Crusader Country,

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Speaker 14: I thought, well, what's that saying to a play like

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Speaker 14: Johnny Lee? You know, come up, come up to Chiefs Country, mate,

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Speaker 14: We'll look after you. If they're going to sign a

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Speaker 14: seven over the top of you, don't. Don't you worry.

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Speaker 14: We've got we've got a playing jersey here for you.

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Speaker 14: But hey, look it's I hope they treat him well.

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Speaker 14: I hope they appreciate him, because he looks the goods

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Speaker 14: and dare I say it, he's a total hybrid between

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Speaker 14: Ethan Blackadder, Richie mccare and a few other great crusaders

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Speaker 14: of the past.

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Speaker 3: And he's like any good man at his age. He's

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Speaker 3: got a sick lid and that's for those out there

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Speaker 3: slightly longer in the teeth, and he's got a wicked haircut.

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Speaker 3: He's got a sick lid. Right, tell me I'm wrong, James.

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Speaker 14: I know he looks in those ears as well proper

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Speaker 14: rugby years. It's about time we saw some of those

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Speaker 14: look today. One of this is Blues is going to

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Speaker 14: be a fascinating game because you know Tana is pretty

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Speaker 14: much sounds like he's going to go and join Dave Rennie.

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Speaker 14: And then you know Muwana have been have been making

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Speaker 14: waves in this city. So it is really a derby

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Speaker 14: match and that there's even more and more feeling every

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Speaker 14: time these teams play. So I'm looking forward to that

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Speaker 14: three thirty kickoff.

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Speaker 3: Should be magnificent. And just before we end on Super Rugby,

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Speaker 3: the tech saying Darcy he was the ref last night.

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Speaker 3: He let the game flow lead to a great spectacle

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Speaker 3: for which the Heightends also deserved credit. And then someone

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Speaker 3: else has written they basically stir to violence the Crusaders

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Speaker 3: and the raw MCTEAM one and just for your information,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Way was the whistleblower there. And before we wander

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Speaker 3: on off, mister Maconey ENDSID twenty. Caine Williamson just told

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Speaker 3: us on the show that's his preference. So, like that said,

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Speaker 3: all bets off. It's happening. Right.

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Speaker 14: If Kane says the Ensy twenty should happen, then I

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Speaker 14: think it should. I think that hopefully there's a space

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Speaker 14: for Insied twenty in the calendar that doesn't affect what

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Speaker 14: the black Caps are doing because you know, and there

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Speaker 14: are players who want to play in the Big Bash

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Speaker 14: as well, and we'll earn huge money and you can't

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Speaker 14: deny them that. So look, if they can bring people home,

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Speaker 14: that's great. But I also think saying the opportunity of

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Speaker 14: having a franchise, a New Zealand franchise and the Big

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Speaker 14: Bash would be crazy to pass up. So somehow I

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01:19:53,867 --> 01:19:56,147
Speaker 14: think they've got to try and do both, a bit

1491
01:19:56,187 --> 01:19:57,907
Speaker 14: like the old Al Paso ad where a girl on

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01:19:58,147 --> 01:20:01,027
Speaker 14: the sides between crunchy or soft tacos. Why can't we

1493
01:20:01,067 --> 01:20:01,467
Speaker 14: have both?

1494
01:20:01,947 --> 01:20:04,987
Speaker 3: Indeed, and it's all to me due diligence. They as

1495
01:20:04,987 --> 01:20:07,747
Speaker 3: long as the research has been being done, they understand

1496
01:20:07,907 --> 01:20:12,507
Speaker 3: what the possibility of disastrous success could be and then

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01:20:12,587 --> 01:20:15,227
Speaker 3: move into an Apparently that decision is coming out this

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01:20:15,347 --> 01:20:17,827
Speaker 3: week in Brendan, tex Isn't it great? The black Caps

1499
01:20:17,827 --> 01:20:21,147
Speaker 3: out of series is being played by B teams and

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01:20:21,547 --> 01:20:25,387
Speaker 3: that's the problem the game faces right now still needs

1501
01:20:25,427 --> 01:20:28,107
Speaker 3: to be addressed on that. Mister James mconey, we bet

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01:20:28,147 --> 01:20:30,147
Speaker 3: you farewell. We thank you very much for your time

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01:20:30,187 --> 01:20:32,667
Speaker 3: and look forward do we meet again, my friend.

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01:20:33,467 --> 01:20:36,307
Speaker 14: Awesome cheers, Darcy, have a great one, thanks mate.

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01:20:36,467 --> 01:20:39,027
Speaker 3: I will I always intend to have a great one.

1506
01:20:39,187 --> 01:20:44,347
Speaker 3: Where now rapidly approaching the latest and new sport and weather.

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01:20:44,707 --> 01:20:48,627
Speaker 3: It's close, but not right here. Right now it is

1508
01:20:48,787 --> 01:20:49,947
Speaker 3: eight minutes to two.

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Speaker 1: The biggest names and sports are here Weekend Sport with

1510
01:20:54,867 --> 01:20:56,547
Speaker 1: Dancy Waldergrave Youth Talks.

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01:20:56,547 --> 01:21:00,347
Speaker 3: That'd be it's five to two the latest and sport

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01:21:00,427 --> 01:21:03,147
Speaker 3: news and the weather is on its way up. After

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01:21:03,267 --> 01:21:08,427
Speaker 3: that the third hour of weekend. That's myself, Darcy Watergrave.

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01:21:08,707 --> 01:21:11,667
Speaker 3: Thanks very much Jason Pine for letting me steal your

1515
01:21:11,787 --> 01:21:14,547
Speaker 3: seat for the afternoon. We'll be covering off a bit

1516
01:21:14,587 --> 01:21:17,467
Speaker 3: of Formula One in the next hour with Michael Lamonato.

1517
01:21:17,867 --> 01:21:21,467
Speaker 3: He's an FIA accredited Formula One writer. As we look

1518
01:21:21,507 --> 01:21:24,627
Speaker 3: toward the Chinese Grand Prix tonight, we'll also look back

1519
01:21:24,667 --> 01:21:30,267
Speaker 3: at qualifying and the sprint race in Shanghai yesterday. Nathan

1520
01:21:30,307 --> 01:21:33,427
Speaker 3: Smith joins us as we talk a cricket double head

1521
01:21:33,427 --> 01:21:35,827
Speaker 3: of getting under way two forty five. This afternoon, the

1522
01:21:35,947 --> 01:21:39,907
Speaker 3: Ferns play South Africa and at seven point fifteen it's

1523
01:21:40,067 --> 01:21:43,107
Speaker 3: the black Caps turn to have a crack, and then

1524
01:21:43,267 --> 01:21:46,507
Speaker 3: Cole Forbes joins us on the show. Cole Forbes is

1525
01:21:46,627 --> 01:21:51,027
Speaker 3: in action. Three thirty five. That's when that Mwana Pacifica

1526
01:21:51,107 --> 01:21:55,627
Speaker 3: match kicks off. That's MP versus the Blues at Eden Park.

1527
01:21:55,907 --> 01:22:01,667
Speaker 3: Plenty to get across, including some highlights from last night.

1528
01:22:01,987 --> 01:22:04,947
Speaker 3: If you missed it, we've got that as well. All

1529
01:22:05,027 --> 01:22:09,467
Speaker 3: that and more still to come here on News Talk zb.

1530
01:22:10,347 --> 01:22:13,747
Speaker 3: You're enjoying the program as much as I'm enjoying bringing

1531
01:22:13,827 --> 01:22:17,147
Speaker 3: it to you. Still can't quite get over they pay

1532
01:22:17,227 --> 01:22:19,947
Speaker 3: me to sit here and do this, but I'll take it.

1533
01:22:20,307 --> 01:22:25,067
Speaker 2: This is news Talk z B, the only place for

1534
01:22:25,307 --> 01:22:29,547
Speaker 2: the big names, the big issues, the big controversies and

1535
01:22:29,947 --> 01:22:33,587
Speaker 2: the big conversations. It's all on Weekend.

1536
01:22:33,267 --> 01:22:37,267
Speaker 1: Sport with Darcy Wantgrave on your home of Sport News

1537
01:22:37,267 --> 01:22:38,027
Speaker 1: Talk ZEDB.

1538
01:22:41,147 --> 01:22:45,067
Speaker 3: Weekend Sport on the News Talk zed B, Part three.

1539
01:22:46,147 --> 01:22:48,587
Speaker 3: My name's Darcy Watergrave is seitting up for Jason Pine.

1540
01:22:48,627 --> 01:22:51,147
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for your time, your attention, your love. Indeed,

1541
01:22:51,147 --> 01:22:54,747
Speaker 3: if we're getting idiot. Seven minutes after two, it's a

1542
01:22:54,827 --> 01:22:58,747
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon. It's fifteenth of March twenty twenty six. Coming

1543
01:22:58,827 --> 01:23:01,707
Speaker 3: up in the next hour, we'll talk about a cricket

1544
01:23:01,707 --> 01:23:05,427
Speaker 3: with Nathan Smith. Doubleheader is up in running at two

1545
01:23:05,547 --> 01:23:08,387
Speaker 3: forty five the White Fans take on South Africa and

1546
01:23:08,427 --> 01:23:11,867
Speaker 3: T twenty and at seven fifteen the blokes get their

1547
01:23:11,947 --> 01:23:15,027
Speaker 3: tune as well. Cole Forbes on the show ahead of

1548
01:23:15,107 --> 01:23:18,747
Speaker 3: Mouana Passifica taking on the Blues at Eden Park, and

1549
01:23:18,747 --> 01:23:20,987
Speaker 3: we'll get amongst a b of Formula one shortly with

1550
01:23:21,387 --> 01:23:26,627
Speaker 3: Michael Lamonanto. He's a Formula one writer with accreditation through

1551
01:23:26,627 --> 01:23:30,627
Speaker 3: the FIA for Formula one. He knows what he's talking about.

1552
01:23:30,667 --> 01:23:32,747
Speaker 3: That race at eight pm tonight, But before we do

1553
01:23:32,827 --> 01:23:35,187
Speaker 3: any of that, we're going to a hold lot of

1554
01:23:35,227 --> 01:23:38,067
Speaker 3: this and this is all about catching up with what

1555
01:23:38,227 --> 01:23:43,387
Speaker 3: happened last night and in case you missed it, we

1556
01:23:43,387 --> 01:23:52,627
Speaker 3: were there and a happy day in Wellington and on

1557
01:23:52,707 --> 01:23:54,867
Speaker 3: a happy day you can't beat it? Or is that

1558
01:23:54,947 --> 01:23:59,427
Speaker 3: a good day? Art's and everything day? Valingtonians are celebrating

1559
01:23:59,467 --> 01:24:04,427
Speaker 3: the football. First, the Phoenix women beating up on the Brisbane.

1560
01:24:04,027 --> 01:24:09,467
Speaker 2: Raw talk at my watch time works will not be denied.

1561
01:24:10,867 --> 01:24:14,627
Speaker 3: She had offices are the first time, but she begs

1562
01:24:14,627 --> 01:24:15,187
Speaker 3: on the third.

1563
01:24:15,667 --> 01:24:17,547
Speaker 7: It's three knell at shortly.

1564
01:24:17,387 --> 01:24:20,787
Speaker 3: Three points to the relative beating and whatever the Wahana

1565
01:24:20,907 --> 01:24:24,027
Speaker 3: can do that Tiana can have a crack. The men

1566
01:24:24,267 --> 01:24:27,827
Speaker 3: winning for the first time and quite some time too.

1567
01:24:28,267 --> 01:24:30,187
Speaker 18: Jacob Sponley with Paul Lifel to keep an eye on

1568
01:24:30,227 --> 01:24:34,987
Speaker 18: what's happening. Is is as there's in an open car

1569
01:24:35,987 --> 01:24:39,587
Speaker 18: that doubles the advantage, mats some list of the hiddens

1570
01:24:40,267 --> 01:24:44,267
Speaker 18: and I think it's a defensive bunder two zip over per.

1571
01:24:44,467 --> 01:24:48,347
Speaker 3: Congratulations to Kissed green Aked and his men an ORFC.

1572
01:24:49,027 --> 01:24:52,587
Speaker 3: They've closed the gap on that Newcastle top of the

1573
01:24:52,667 --> 01:24:57,347
Speaker 3: table clash resulted in Auckland beating Newcastle two one.

1574
01:24:57,507 --> 01:25:01,587
Speaker 19: Brandle uses m debris with that crossback post cost grow

1575
01:25:01,667 --> 01:25:04,907
Speaker 19: up this time he makes no mistake well less than

1576
01:25:04,947 --> 01:25:12,107
Speaker 19: two minutes to completely mishitting percine Auckland extract the maximum penalty.

1577
01:25:12,147 --> 01:25:12,987
Speaker 19: They lead to.

1578
01:25:12,787 --> 01:25:15,787
Speaker 3: One and off now to the National Rugby Believe the

1579
01:25:15,907 --> 01:25:21,347
Speaker 3: n L the Tigers. This was something else. The Tigers

1580
01:25:21,747 --> 01:25:25,547
Speaker 3: have begun their season worth one Hella Hella statements a.

1581
01:25:25,667 --> 01:25:28,947
Speaker 19: Bamboos with you, Kenny the short wall Taruba at to

1582
01:25:29,147 --> 01:25:31,547
Speaker 19: own space, skelter this time for the corner.

1583
01:25:33,227 --> 01:25:33,987
Speaker 7: He gets out, this.

1584
01:25:34,147 --> 01:25:42,067
Speaker 4: Time to skelter. Give him another shot.

1585
01:25:42,187 --> 01:25:46,067
Speaker 3: He gets a right forty four sixteen over the Cowboys

1586
01:25:46,067 --> 01:25:48,947
Speaker 3: that like out either. Feel for my old mate Michael

1587
01:25:49,027 --> 01:25:53,227
Speaker 3: Whack still over there in cowboys lands in mine lucky.

1588
01:25:53,387 --> 01:25:57,107
Speaker 3: It's the way things. Rowland Penrith have blown the Sharks

1589
01:25:57,107 --> 01:26:00,627
Speaker 3: away from Bathur's tackle. Five comes out of the back

1590
01:26:01,267 --> 01:26:03,507
Speaker 3: clearing at them.

1591
01:26:03,867 --> 01:26:05,467
Speaker 17: It's on expence again.

1592
01:26:05,587 --> 01:26:09,587
Speaker 3: He's got a batter. Everything is sticking.

1593
01:26:09,267 --> 01:26:10,027
Speaker 7: There for paring.

1594
01:26:10,787 --> 01:26:13,587
Speaker 3: Buttt wait, there's plenty of points and more of the

1595
01:26:13,787 --> 01:26:18,667
Speaker 3: storms into the Dragons get in the sea forty six twenty.

1596
01:26:18,587 --> 01:26:24,467
Speaker 1: To Munster, far longer kicking Patrick spin run so fall.

1597
01:26:26,387 --> 01:26:27,747
Speaker 3: Screen his name.

1598
01:26:28,547 --> 01:26:32,707
Speaker 19: What a player, what a prospects, what a performer today

1599
01:26:32,747 --> 01:26:35,747
Speaker 19: for the Melbourne Storm and producer McDonald.

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01:26:36,107 --> 01:26:39,027
Speaker 3: You should know that they would never say penrith the

1601
01:26:39,147 --> 01:26:42,547
Speaker 3: sharks get in the sea, because that's where the sharks

1602
01:26:42,827 --> 01:26:46,067
Speaker 3: like to be. It would be pointless and of making

1603
01:26:46,187 --> 01:26:50,147
Speaker 3: defenseless right to rugby. Now in Dreua, they defended home

1604
01:26:50,467 --> 01:26:52,107
Speaker 3: against the Brumbies and.

1605
01:26:52,187 --> 01:26:56,387
Speaker 7: Watts Sam up a Ray kicking ahead nets the bounce.

1606
01:26:56,827 --> 01:26:58,147
Speaker 7: Was he taken without the ball?

1607
01:26:58,267 --> 01:27:01,147
Speaker 18: It doesn't matter, No, it doesn't because he puffed it.

1608
01:27:01,107 --> 01:27:04,907
Speaker 17: Up and it is a try to the thieg gender.

1609
01:27:05,307 --> 01:27:11,067
Speaker 3: And the Reds too good for the wartownside.

1610
01:27:09,707 --> 01:27:11,187
Speaker 17: Kind of want to give him behind.

1611
01:27:11,387 --> 01:27:19,267
Speaker 3: Here you have and we've touched on him before. The

1612
01:27:19,307 --> 01:27:24,667
Speaker 3: Northern Hemisphere. France won a thriller, a defenseless thriller, and

1613
01:27:24,667 --> 01:27:27,747
Speaker 3: in doing so they claimed the Six Nations title.

1614
01:27:28,067 --> 01:27:35,787
Speaker 20: Toma Ramos, a man for clutch moments, France's record point

1615
01:27:35,867 --> 01:27:37,547
Speaker 20: scorer for the title.

1616
01:27:40,187 --> 01:27:44,267
Speaker 3: He's got it, He's got it always, what's the kicker?

1617
01:27:45,027 --> 01:27:46,747
Speaker 7: England in despair?

1618
01:27:47,307 --> 01:27:50,507
Speaker 3: France champions again.

1619
01:27:50,827 --> 01:27:56,427
Speaker 20: And Toma Ramos, with eighty thousand eyes in the stadium

1620
01:27:56,707 --> 01:28:03,467
Speaker 20: and millions elsewhere, Lands the blow that delivers the championship

1621
01:28:03,547 --> 01:28:04,107
Speaker 20: to France.

1622
01:28:05,347 --> 01:28:09,627
Speaker 1: Analyzing the play and getting the inside Weekend Sport with

1623
01:28:09,867 --> 01:28:11,987
Speaker 1: Dancy Waldegrave News talks'd be.

1624
01:28:12,427 --> 01:28:16,827
Speaker 3: Talking Formula one on the program now. Liam Lawson yesterday

1625
01:28:16,907 --> 01:28:19,107
Speaker 3: picked up his first points of the season.

1626
01:28:19,427 --> 01:28:22,427
Speaker 21: This battle still going on behind Liam lass and will

1627
01:28:22,467 --> 01:28:25,347
Speaker 21: make it to the line just ahead oh Volley fair

1628
01:28:25,427 --> 01:28:28,067
Speaker 21: And who played for the final points place and finished

1629
01:28:28,107 --> 01:28:31,347
Speaker 21: four tenths ahead of Max for Stafford.

1630
01:28:31,587 --> 01:28:35,667
Speaker 3: Were joined it now by Michael Lamonato is a Formula

1631
01:28:35,707 --> 01:28:40,067
Speaker 3: one writer. If I credited tabook out of Australia talking

1632
01:28:40,267 --> 01:28:44,147
Speaker 3: about the Formula One Michael, welcome on borderways. Great to

1633
01:28:44,587 --> 01:28:47,387
Speaker 3: talk race cars with you. So have we learned anything

1634
01:28:47,467 --> 01:28:49,947
Speaker 3: after sprint and coughing yesterday.

1635
01:28:50,547 --> 01:28:51,187
Speaker 4: Well, we've learned.

1636
01:28:51,227 --> 01:28:53,147
Speaker 22: I think that a lot of the lessons we gained

1637
01:28:53,187 --> 01:28:56,107
Speaker 22: in Australia still holding even of his very different fact

1638
01:28:56,107 --> 01:28:59,387
Speaker 22: that his Mercedes is very fast, perhaps a little less

1639
01:28:59,387 --> 01:29:03,467
Speaker 22: so in charge more conventional circle, but also accounting for

1640
01:29:03,507 --> 01:29:05,947
Speaker 22: the fact that every team learned quite a bit in

1641
01:29:05,987 --> 01:29:08,147
Speaker 22: Melbourne was able to optimize things a little bit more.

1642
01:29:08,427 --> 01:29:11,547
Speaker 22: I think we can say after the sprint that Ferrari's

1643
01:29:11,707 --> 01:29:15,347
Speaker 22: race pace isn't so far though it was interesting to

1644
01:29:15,347 --> 01:29:18,667
Speaker 22: hear Charlotte Clair look afterwards about acknowledging that, but then

1645
01:29:18,707 --> 01:29:20,987
Speaker 22: saying they don't really know why and they can't explain that.

1646
01:29:21,107 --> 01:29:22,667
Speaker 7: So there's a bit of up and down in that

1647
01:29:22,747 --> 01:29:23,227
Speaker 7: as well.

1648
01:29:23,867 --> 01:29:25,907
Speaker 22: And then we've got a bit of a gap to McClaren,

1649
01:29:25,987 --> 01:29:28,587
Speaker 22: but then a massive gap to Red Bull Racing. At

1650
01:29:28,627 --> 01:29:31,107
Speaker 22: least at a track like this, they're pretty much down

1651
01:29:31,147 --> 01:29:33,827
Speaker 22: in the midfield. They were out qualified by Alpine and

1652
01:29:33,907 --> 01:29:36,107
Speaker 22: that was the same in the spring. Maxims haven't really

1653
01:29:36,147 --> 01:29:39,467
Speaker 22: downcast after the Sprince thing. Everything that could have gone

1654
01:29:39,467 --> 01:29:41,667
Speaker 22: wrong did go wrong. They've got no pace cutters and work,

1655
01:29:41,707 --> 01:29:45,307
Speaker 22: no bounds. There's a huge list of problems, so still

1656
01:29:45,307 --> 01:29:48,147
Speaker 22: the same order. I think from Australia we've learned a

1657
01:29:48,147 --> 01:29:50,347
Speaker 22: little bit more about the detail and where exactly those

1658
01:29:50,467 --> 01:29:51,787
Speaker 22: cars are all sitting in China.

1659
01:29:52,467 --> 01:29:55,707
Speaker 3: What also we picked up that Liam Wilson, given half

1660
01:29:55,747 --> 01:29:59,867
Speaker 3: a chance, isn't that bad a pedler and his decisions,

1661
01:30:00,027 --> 01:30:04,067
Speaker 3: team's decision to run a hard compound during that it

1662
01:30:04,187 --> 01:30:07,467
Speaker 3: worked pretty well for him. Maybe the safety car kind

1663
01:30:07,467 --> 01:30:09,707
Speaker 3: of helped or maybe it handed. I'm not really sure.

1664
01:30:09,707 --> 01:30:11,707
Speaker 3: At the end of that, where did you see that going?

1665
01:30:11,787 --> 01:30:14,347
Speaker 3: Because you think he could have lasted a bit longer,

1666
01:30:14,467 --> 01:30:16,907
Speaker 3: Maybe he could have come out. I accidently don't know. Michael.

1667
01:30:18,387 --> 01:30:21,107
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's tough to say because he's essentially held the

1668
01:30:21,107 --> 01:30:23,627
Speaker 22: position that he had before the safety car at the flag,

1669
01:30:23,747 --> 01:30:26,987
Speaker 22: but then he didn't get caught out in the pit

1670
01:30:27,067 --> 01:30:29,427
Speaker 22: stop drama. Of course, most cars pitted, so the pit

1671
01:30:29,507 --> 01:30:32,547
Speaker 22: lane was very busy. Having started on the hard tire

1672
01:30:32,867 --> 01:30:35,107
Speaker 22: meant that he need to pit anyway, so he may

1673
01:30:35,107 --> 01:30:37,547
Speaker 22: as well have had to go. But it was interesting

1674
01:30:37,587 --> 01:30:40,067
Speaker 22: to see because that would have been around sixteen laps

1675
01:30:40,067 --> 01:30:43,747
Speaker 22: deep into the sprint. His tires were still feeling pretty

1676
01:30:43,827 --> 01:30:46,467
Speaker 22: aged by the time the race three started. A couple

1677
01:30:46,507 --> 01:30:48,827
Speaker 22: of drivers passed the music but still scored points, which

1678
01:30:48,867 --> 01:30:51,627
Speaker 22: is important for racing books. But that does mean he's

1679
01:30:51,667 --> 01:30:55,387
Speaker 22: got one fewer heart going into the Grand Prix, and given.

1680
01:30:55,187 --> 01:30:57,187
Speaker 7: How high tire.

1681
01:30:57,027 --> 01:30:59,587
Speaker 22: Usage was in that sprint, including as I said, on

1682
01:30:59,707 --> 01:31:01,667
Speaker 22: him and the hart tire, we'll have to see how

1683
01:31:01,667 --> 01:31:03,747
Speaker 22: that pans out for him in the Grand Prix. But

1684
01:31:03,787 --> 01:31:06,587
Speaker 22: considering that points on the board are important, they saw

1685
01:31:06,627 --> 01:31:08,347
Speaker 22: a chance to get points in the sprint. He got

1686
01:31:08,347 --> 01:31:09,507
Speaker 22: that point in the spring, or I got a couple

1687
01:31:09,547 --> 01:31:12,147
Speaker 22: of points in the sprint. The outcomes kind of there,

1688
01:31:12,427 --> 01:31:13,867
Speaker 22: and now I touched them to see what they can

1689
01:31:13,907 --> 01:31:15,147
Speaker 22: make of the raids as far.

1690
01:31:15,027 --> 01:31:18,067
Speaker 3: As surprises and qualifying. Look, we look at the top

1691
01:31:18,107 --> 01:31:21,347
Speaker 3: Sex cars. We all saw that coming. Pierre Ghastly has

1692
01:31:21,387 --> 01:31:24,907
Speaker 3: got to be a surprise mentioned in the Lpene popping

1693
01:31:24,947 --> 01:31:27,587
Speaker 3: in ahead of the Stepen. But are you look at

1694
01:31:27,627 --> 01:31:32,787
Speaker 3: the performance of Bearman of Holkenberg. They put in a

1695
01:31:32,907 --> 01:31:36,547
Speaker 3: pretty good show, didn't they, Unless I forget esterban Ochen.

1696
01:31:36,627 --> 01:31:38,107
Speaker 3: We love the Haash team.

1697
01:31:38,827 --> 01:31:42,947
Speaker 22: Yeah, well three eleven places in a Rowpen, Nico, Holgenberg

1698
01:31:42,987 --> 01:31:44,107
Speaker 22: and all of them. I have to try and to

1699
01:31:44,107 --> 01:31:46,067
Speaker 22: remember what it was in Australia, but all of them

1700
01:31:46,107 --> 01:31:46,747
Speaker 22: really narrow.

1701
01:31:46,787 --> 01:31:49,067
Speaker 7: I think it was true.

1702
01:31:48,267 --> 01:31:50,347
Speaker 22: Thousandths of a second that he missed out on a

1703
01:31:50,387 --> 01:31:52,667
Speaker 22: top ten. So how are the actually doing? I think

1704
01:31:52,667 --> 01:31:55,787
Speaker 22: a lot better than pre season expectations suggested they would

1705
01:31:55,787 --> 01:31:57,667
Speaker 22: be there right on the cusp. Of course, got points

1706
01:31:58,187 --> 01:32:01,587
Speaker 22: last weekend as well, so been looking really good. But Alpine,

1707
01:32:01,627 --> 01:32:03,987
Speaker 22: as you say, a little bit of a surprise based

1708
01:32:04,027 --> 01:32:07,347
Speaker 22: on Australia where they were just a bit nowhere. But

1709
01:32:07,347 --> 01:32:09,547
Speaker 22: then I guess we should remember that Australia being a

1710
01:32:09,587 --> 01:32:11,427
Speaker 22: bit nowhere was also a bit of surprise because they

1711
01:32:11,427 --> 01:32:14,427
Speaker 22: looked good in pre season testing, so this feels.

1712
01:32:14,147 --> 01:32:14,907
Speaker 7: A bit more.

1713
01:32:15,667 --> 01:32:17,187
Speaker 22: It's probably a little bit better, a bit of a

1714
01:32:17,307 --> 01:32:19,987
Speaker 22: qualifying a red bull racing guard, but being in the

1715
01:32:20,027 --> 01:32:22,587
Speaker 22: top ten probably feels a bit more where Alpines thought

1716
01:32:22,587 --> 01:32:24,107
Speaker 22: they would be in hoped they would be at the

1717
01:32:24,147 --> 01:32:24,867
Speaker 22: start of the season.

1718
01:32:24,907 --> 01:32:27,747
Speaker 7: He executed really well. I think when you give Pierre Gaslely.

1719
01:32:27,427 --> 01:32:29,747
Speaker 4: A car he can drive, he tends to get.

1720
01:32:29,627 --> 01:32:30,947
Speaker 22: The most out of it if it doesn't have too

1721
01:32:30,987 --> 01:32:33,827
Speaker 22: many problems, and that's exactly what happened here, comfortably out

1722
01:32:33,907 --> 01:32:36,427
Speaker 22: qualified and his teammate Franco Colopiindo who did get out

1723
01:32:36,427 --> 01:32:38,387
Speaker 22: of Q one though it's a little bit of success

1724
01:32:38,427 --> 01:32:40,347
Speaker 22: for him there. And then all of the Benmen and

1725
01:32:40,467 --> 01:32:44,627
Speaker 22: Estevanokon is an increasingly i think interesting comparison. Even early

1726
01:32:44,707 --> 01:32:47,667
Speaker 22: in the season. Bemen in another top ten. He really

1727
01:32:47,707 --> 01:32:49,787
Speaker 22: looks like he stepped up from last year when he

1728
01:32:49,787 --> 01:32:51,987
Speaker 22: was clearly fast. But we haven't really seen any big

1729
01:32:51,987 --> 01:32:54,187
Speaker 22: mistakes him this year in the way we did last year,

1730
01:32:54,587 --> 01:32:55,547
Speaker 22: and he's really.

1731
01:32:55,267 --> 01:32:57,827
Speaker 7: Shading Estevaocon now. I know Acon thinks he.

1732
01:32:57,827 --> 01:33:00,307
Speaker 22: Would have made the top ten had the yellow flag

1733
01:33:00,347 --> 01:33:02,867
Speaker 22: not come out late. For Gabrielle Bortolto in tutube and

1734
01:33:03,187 --> 01:33:04,627
Speaker 22: he was up. We don't know if he would have

1735
01:33:04,627 --> 01:33:06,067
Speaker 22: made it, but he certainly was up on his best

1736
01:33:06,147 --> 01:33:08,787
Speaker 22: lap time up to that point. But it's just again

1737
01:33:08,867 --> 01:33:11,587
Speaker 22: that he's being beaten by this driver much younger and

1738
01:33:11,707 --> 01:33:14,107
Speaker 22: much less experienced than him in a brand new car.

1739
01:33:14,147 --> 01:33:16,827
Speaker 22: Where well, it's a bit up for debate, but generally

1740
01:33:16,867 --> 01:33:18,907
Speaker 22: speaking we think experienced drivers have a bit of an

1741
01:33:18,987 --> 01:33:20,347
Speaker 22: edge when the rules change like this.

1742
01:33:21,387 --> 01:33:23,507
Speaker 7: It's an interesting position to rock on to be and still.

1743
01:33:23,387 --> 01:33:23,987
Speaker 4: Very early days.

1744
01:33:23,987 --> 01:33:26,147
Speaker 22: Of course, we're only halfway through the second round of

1745
01:33:26,187 --> 01:33:29,587
Speaker 22: the season, but that's a sort of developing storyline already.

1746
01:33:29,627 --> 01:33:30,467
Speaker 4: I think this year.

1747
01:33:30,667 --> 01:33:35,627
Speaker 3: Interesting theory though, that the new drivers, especially the singular

1748
01:33:35,707 --> 01:33:38,307
Speaker 3: rookie in the park, they don't know what the other

1749
01:33:38,387 --> 01:33:40,587
Speaker 3: cars were like, so this is all they know in

1750
01:33:40,747 --> 01:33:44,387
Speaker 3: Formula One, so if anything, when it comes to adaptation,

1751
01:33:44,547 --> 01:33:46,387
Speaker 3: they're probably in the box seat.

1752
01:33:46,467 --> 01:33:49,587
Speaker 22: Michael, I think there is a degree of that, Like

1753
01:33:49,627 --> 01:33:51,267
Speaker 22: we've seen Arvid Lindblad, that one rookie.

1754
01:33:51,307 --> 01:33:52,387
Speaker 4: He's been pretty good this year.

1755
01:33:52,427 --> 01:33:54,907
Speaker 22: He's had a bit of a patchy weekend this weekend,

1756
01:33:54,907 --> 01:33:56,587
Speaker 22: but I think that really stems from the fact that

1757
01:33:56,627 --> 01:33:58,987
Speaker 22: he was out of practice one practice session. I think

1758
01:33:59,027 --> 01:34:01,427
Speaker 22: it was about fifteen minutes in, and laps just counters

1759
01:34:01,467 --> 01:34:03,387
Speaker 22: so much with these cars because they're learning so much

1760
01:34:03,387 --> 01:34:06,867
Speaker 22: every lap. I think, actually I think the rookie think hout.

1761
01:34:06,947 --> 01:34:08,947
Speaker 22: The younger drivers have tended to be good like. We

1762
01:34:08,987 --> 01:34:11,707
Speaker 22: haven't seen that the younger guys suddenly disappear. In fact,

1763
01:34:11,707 --> 01:34:13,787
Speaker 22: we've probably sent the opposite for most of them. But

1764
01:34:13,867 --> 01:34:17,987
Speaker 22: I think it's the drivers who understand how they drive

1765
01:34:18,107 --> 01:34:20,907
Speaker 22: the car who are the ones getting the most out

1766
01:34:20,947 --> 01:34:22,467
Speaker 22: of it, because they're the ones who can adapt.

1767
01:34:22,467 --> 01:34:25,547
Speaker 7: It's the drivers perhaps who have historically just got in

1768
01:34:25,547 --> 01:34:26,747
Speaker 7: the car and driven it.

1769
01:34:26,747 --> 01:34:29,867
Speaker 22: And I don't know why they're fast, who can't unpick

1770
01:34:30,227 --> 01:34:32,827
Speaker 22: their driving styles to make sure they work with his car.

1771
01:34:32,947 --> 01:34:34,547
Speaker 7: We can still see a lot of learning going on

1772
01:34:34,627 --> 01:34:35,107
Speaker 7: in that sense.

1773
01:34:35,147 --> 01:34:37,747
Speaker 22: Anyway, I think it was interesting to hear it may

1774
01:34:37,747 --> 01:34:39,507
Speaker 22: have been Oliver Baman. Now they cast me to run

1775
01:34:39,587 --> 01:34:41,267
Speaker 22: back to a couple of days ago who were sort

1776
01:34:41,307 --> 01:34:43,787
Speaker 22: of saying, you know, he's last lap in qualifying. He

1777
01:34:43,867 --> 01:34:45,307
Speaker 22: just thrashed the car like he would have been an

1778
01:34:45,307 --> 01:34:47,947
Speaker 22: old car and went slower. So it's things like that

1779
01:34:47,947 --> 01:34:50,667
Speaker 22: where drivers have to if they understand what they're doing.

1780
01:34:50,907 --> 01:34:53,667
Speaker 22: They're getting games, but if they're not understanding how their

1781
01:34:53,787 --> 01:34:57,267
Speaker 22: driving style communicates with these cars, then they end up

1782
01:34:57,307 --> 01:35:00,147
Speaker 22: a bit lost. I think that'll that'll unfold them more

1783
01:35:00,227 --> 01:35:01,947
Speaker 22: subtle size as we get in the more races we

1784
01:35:01,987 --> 01:35:03,907
Speaker 22: go to to the Australasians.

1785
01:35:04,067 --> 01:35:09,187
Speaker 3: Oscar Prestree first, this is well, I'm not quite sure

1786
01:35:09,227 --> 01:35:11,507
Speaker 3: what to make of Oscar and he's probably scratching his

1787
01:35:11,507 --> 01:35:14,267
Speaker 3: head as well, but look he's on the grid, he's

1788
01:35:14,307 --> 01:35:17,347
Speaker 3: sitting in fifth place. Do you feel this room for

1789
01:35:17,467 --> 01:35:21,587
Speaker 3: him to move? Of course, Lando Norris and the fence

1790
01:35:21,587 --> 01:35:24,267
Speaker 3: of his championships not looking great at his only early

1791
01:35:24,347 --> 01:35:27,627
Speaker 3: doors right there and thereabouts. From an Australian point of view,

1792
01:35:27,627 --> 01:35:28,747
Speaker 3: where does Oscar snit?

1793
01:35:29,747 --> 01:35:29,947
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1794
01:35:29,987 --> 01:35:31,587
Speaker 22: I mean it's good first of all for him to

1795
01:35:31,587 --> 01:35:33,787
Speaker 22: have got some laps on the board after crashing out

1796
01:35:33,787 --> 01:35:35,627
Speaker 22: of the Conoissan's laughs last week, so he.

1797
01:35:35,947 --> 01:35:36,747
Speaker 4: Started his season.

1798
01:35:36,827 --> 01:35:38,507
Speaker 7: He's got a couple of points as well, so good

1799
01:35:38,547 --> 01:35:39,147
Speaker 7: news for him.

1800
01:35:39,947 --> 01:35:42,907
Speaker 22: But unfortunately the story of this weekend has been On

1801
01:35:42,947 --> 01:35:45,707
Speaker 22: the one hand, McLaren feels like they have made progress

1802
01:35:45,707 --> 01:35:48,267
Speaker 22: based on last week and qualifying times suggests they have.

1803
01:35:48,347 --> 01:35:51,627
Speaker 22: They've got closer to Mercedes, but there's still nowhere near Mercedes.

1804
01:35:51,627 --> 01:35:53,067
Speaker 7: And this is the problem. They're in this sort of

1805
01:35:53,587 --> 01:35:55,347
Speaker 7: singular group of just him and.

1806
01:35:55,387 --> 01:35:57,907
Speaker 22: Lando Dorris feeling from Oscar Piastri's respective that are a

1807
01:35:57,907 --> 01:36:00,947
Speaker 22: little bit behind Ferrari at this race, certainly ahead of

1808
01:36:00,947 --> 01:36:02,867
Speaker 22: Red Bull. They were roughly on part with Red Bull

1809
01:36:03,347 --> 01:36:07,387
Speaker 22: in Melbourne. And that's just reflective of where the car is.

1810
01:36:07,387 --> 01:36:10,387
Speaker 22: And I think you listened to Lando noros Roscopy Astri talk.

1811
01:36:10,787 --> 01:36:12,667
Speaker 22: They're not so unhappy with the car. Slot of the

1812
01:36:12,707 --> 01:36:15,427
Speaker 22: car is driving badly. Is just where it is, you know,

1813
01:36:15,467 --> 01:36:17,787
Speaker 22: it's just not as fast, does it have the same group,

1814
01:36:18,027 --> 01:36:20,187
Speaker 22: still doesn't have the same power of the Mercedes, but

1815
01:36:20,187 --> 01:36:21,827
Speaker 22: they've closed that gap a little bit by.

1816
01:36:21,827 --> 01:36:23,387
Speaker 4: Understanding the end a little bit more so.

1817
01:36:23,747 --> 01:36:26,867
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, without some chaos up front, and.

1818
01:36:26,867 --> 01:36:29,427
Speaker 22: We do have teammates starting side by side with Mercedes

1819
01:36:29,427 --> 01:36:32,627
Speaker 22: and Ferrari, which does tend to sometimes break chaos. A

1820
01:36:32,747 --> 01:36:35,067
Speaker 22: podium is probably out of the question for McLaren this week.

1821
01:36:35,107 --> 01:36:37,747
Speaker 22: And and then, like you say, bad news for Landa Norris's

1822
01:36:37,787 --> 01:36:40,307
Speaker 22: title defense, because right now it's going to need some

1823
01:36:40,347 --> 01:36:42,707
Speaker 22: big steps from McLaren just to get into that mix.

1824
01:36:43,227 --> 01:36:46,387
Speaker 3: We're joined by Michael Lamonato from Fox Sport. And if

1825
01:36:46,427 --> 01:36:53,147
Speaker 3: I accredited Formula one writer Liam Lawson squeezed and Q

1826
01:36:53,467 --> 01:36:56,987
Speaker 3: two couldn't quite get up. He possibly could have done,

1827
01:36:57,107 --> 01:37:00,547
Speaker 3: but of course, as you touched on before, Colopino drove

1828
01:37:00,587 --> 01:37:03,067
Speaker 3: off the track and that kind of scuffered as chances

1829
01:37:03,067 --> 01:37:06,307
Speaker 3: because those laps were getting faster and faster edged it

1830
01:37:06,387 --> 01:37:08,187
Speaker 3: expect toward the end of Q two.

1831
01:37:09,427 --> 01:37:10,267
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly right.

1832
01:37:10,307 --> 01:37:13,387
Speaker 22: The yellow flag prevented quite a few drivers in that

1833
01:37:13,507 --> 01:37:15,667
Speaker 22: Q two zone from progressing, so he didn't get the

1834
01:37:15,707 --> 01:37:18,587
Speaker 22: ultimate order I suppose of exactly where everyone since in

1835
01:37:18,667 --> 01:37:20,467
Speaker 22: terms of paste. But I think it's been positive for

1836
01:37:20,587 --> 01:37:23,387
Speaker 22: Liam and for Racing Bulls that they are in that mix.

1837
01:37:23,467 --> 01:37:24,707
Speaker 7: You know, it's always feels.

1838
01:37:24,387 --> 01:37:27,027
Speaker 22: Like a bit of a guessing game trying to place

1839
01:37:27,107 --> 01:37:28,627
Speaker 22: that team at the start of the season, because you

1840
01:37:28,627 --> 01:37:29,987
Speaker 22: know they're never going to be quite on Red Bull

1841
01:37:30,067 --> 01:37:32,707
Speaker 22: Racing's pace, but occasionally they kind of look like they're

1842
01:37:32,707 --> 01:37:35,347
Speaker 22: actually very close, especially when regulations change like this and

1843
01:37:35,387 --> 01:37:37,787
Speaker 22: they inevitably buy a lot of a lot of parts

1844
01:37:37,787 --> 01:37:40,867
Speaker 22: from their sister team, So that's sort of interesting in

1845
01:37:40,867 --> 01:37:43,347
Speaker 22: its own case. But yeah, he's been moving in really positively.

1846
01:37:43,627 --> 01:37:44,547
Speaker 22: He's been getting a lot.

1847
01:37:44,427 --> 01:37:44,867
Speaker 7: Out of the car.

1848
01:37:44,907 --> 01:37:47,067
Speaker 22: I think the test, of course is against Lynn Bladd

1849
01:37:47,187 --> 01:37:48,947
Speaker 22: and like we've said, has been probably half a.

1850
01:37:48,947 --> 01:37:50,027
Speaker 7: Step behind this weekend.

1851
01:37:50,027 --> 01:37:51,627
Speaker 22: But as long as you can keep ahead of him,

1852
01:37:51,867 --> 01:37:54,347
Speaker 22: because Red Bull's been quite impressed with lind Bads or

1853
01:37:54,387 --> 01:37:57,107
Speaker 22: Rookie they reckon his He's roughly where Isaac Pajar is

1854
01:37:57,147 --> 01:37:57,987
Speaker 22: and obviously Hadja.

1855
01:37:57,787 --> 01:37:59,987
Speaker 7: Has been promoted to the senior team, then that will

1856
01:38:00,027 --> 01:38:03,667
Speaker 7: be really important for Lawson to rebuild his reputation.

1857
01:38:03,707 --> 01:38:05,587
Speaker 22: I guess, not that he has a bad reputation, but

1858
01:38:05,627 --> 01:38:07,947
Speaker 22: obviously the bad last year, having to change teams and

1859
01:38:07,987 --> 01:38:10,267
Speaker 22: having to rebuild himself a little bit, because I think,

1860
01:38:10,267 --> 01:38:13,467
Speaker 22: as we've said before, notwithstanding Red bulls under different management

1861
01:38:13,507 --> 01:38:15,947
Speaker 22: these days, very rare for a driver to go quite

1862
01:38:16,027 --> 01:38:16,547
Speaker 22: in fact.

1863
01:38:16,387 --> 01:38:17,907
Speaker 7: Unheard of for a driver to go back to the

1864
01:38:17,947 --> 01:38:19,827
Speaker 7: senior team. So to continue his F one.

1865
01:38:19,707 --> 01:38:21,867
Speaker 22: Career in the next couple of years, he's likely going

1866
01:38:21,907 --> 01:38:23,747
Speaker 22: to have to find it outside the red Bull family.

1867
01:38:23,827 --> 01:38:26,667
Speaker 22: So every little success he has now will contribute to that.

1868
01:38:27,307 --> 01:38:32,187
Speaker 3: Angry Max first Steppen and sitting down like he's got

1869
01:38:32,227 --> 01:38:35,987
Speaker 3: his teammate right next to him, but watching him tear

1870
01:38:36,107 --> 01:38:39,347
Speaker 3: through the I'm sure they don't like it, but off

1871
01:38:39,387 --> 01:38:42,067
Speaker 3: the grid watching them tear through everybody else, at least

1872
01:38:42,067 --> 01:38:45,067
Speaker 3: we get some good entertainment, even though Max is entirely

1873
01:38:45,187 --> 01:38:47,707
Speaker 3: unhappy with what he's got underneath him.

1874
01:38:48,147 --> 01:38:50,107
Speaker 22: Yeah, of course, he'd much prefer not to have to

1875
01:38:50,107 --> 01:38:51,747
Speaker 22: be doing that. To be fair, most of his comeback

1876
01:38:51,787 --> 01:38:54,707
Speaker 22: was because he had a terrible start. I guess that's

1877
01:38:54,707 --> 01:38:56,987
Speaker 22: the second time a Red Bull drivers had a terrible start, right,

1878
01:38:56,987 --> 01:38:59,787
Speaker 22: because Lawson had one in Melbourne. It'd be interesting to

1879
01:38:59,787 --> 01:39:01,507
Speaker 22: see if there is a link there. But he was

1880
01:39:01,547 --> 01:39:03,147
Speaker 22: down to twentieth by the first lap, so I had

1881
01:39:03,227 --> 01:39:05,507
Speaker 22: quite a few cars to pass, but he was getting

1882
01:39:05,627 --> 01:39:07,907
Speaker 22: He ended up finished just outside the points in nine,

1883
01:39:08,307 --> 01:39:10,427
Speaker 22: but it felt like already at that point it was

1884
01:39:10,547 --> 01:39:12,587
Speaker 22: kind of topping out a little bit, that the pace

1885
01:39:12,667 --> 01:39:14,467
Speaker 22: was getting harder and harder to manage because he was

1886
01:39:14,507 --> 01:39:16,707
Speaker 22: getting too faster and faster cars. The safety car of

1887
01:39:16,707 --> 01:39:19,667
Speaker 22: course help necessarily either. It'll be interesting to see in

1888
01:39:19,707 --> 01:39:22,187
Speaker 22: the race today, starting in the same place, he was

1889
01:39:22,187 --> 01:39:23,907
Speaker 22: a little bit closer. He was less than a second

1890
01:39:23,947 --> 01:39:26,747
Speaker 22: off pole, which is I mean that sort of illustrates

1891
01:39:26,787 --> 01:39:28,547
Speaker 22: to your Red Bull racing is normally contending for Pole

1892
01:39:28,587 --> 01:39:30,707
Speaker 22: to be just less than a second off, it is

1893
01:39:30,747 --> 01:39:33,707
Speaker 22: nothing to shout about. But he's really, as you said,

1894
01:39:33,707 --> 01:39:36,587
Speaker 22: really downcast. Doesn't love where the cars at. The team

1895
01:39:36,707 --> 01:39:39,707
Speaker 22: suggested that it could be actually because this track is

1896
01:39:40,267 --> 01:39:42,827
Speaker 22: let's say more normal in the sense the energy, the

1897
01:39:43,067 --> 01:39:45,507
Speaker 22: electrical energy is not at a massive premium. The cars

1898
01:39:45,507 --> 01:39:47,667
Speaker 22: are actually working really well with this track as opposed

1899
01:39:47,667 --> 01:39:49,907
Speaker 22: to Melbourn, where it was all about the battery. But

1900
01:39:49,947 --> 01:39:51,867
Speaker 22: there's a lack of advantage in Red Bull in that that.

1901
01:39:51,907 --> 01:39:53,947
Speaker 22: Maybe the Red Bull engine is very good at recovering

1902
01:39:54,067 --> 01:39:56,387
Speaker 22: energy and that's why it looks competitive in Melbourne.

1903
01:39:56,387 --> 01:39:59,307
Speaker 7: But maybe this is actually more where it really is

1904
01:39:59,347 --> 01:40:00,307
Speaker 7: at an average track.

1905
01:40:00,547 --> 01:40:03,467
Speaker 22: That obviously both's even worse considering the average track is

1906
01:40:03,507 --> 01:40:05,867
Speaker 22: more common over the course of the season. But we'll

1907
01:40:05,907 --> 01:40:07,707
Speaker 22: get more in information, as is the case.

1908
01:40:07,707 --> 01:40:09,667
Speaker 7: With this year and the new ruled over the first

1909
01:40:09,667 --> 01:40:10,867
Speaker 7: couple of races.

1910
01:40:10,787 --> 01:40:14,387
Speaker 3: Touched on the battery and how that is working. I

1911
01:40:14,667 --> 01:40:17,787
Speaker 3: find it a distraction for the drivers. I don't know

1912
01:40:17,827 --> 01:40:20,187
Speaker 3: if they need to be concentrating on that as opposed

1913
01:40:20,227 --> 01:40:23,067
Speaker 3: to just driving. Is there any truth in my heart?

1914
01:40:23,107 --> 01:40:28,907
Speaker 22: Take to a degree, like some drivers are paying more

1915
01:40:28,947 --> 01:40:30,987
Speaker 22: attention to that. They said, this is that in Melbourne

1916
01:40:30,987 --> 01:40:33,547
Speaker 22: that they were paying more attention to just having the

1917
01:40:33,547 --> 01:40:35,787
Speaker 22: battery at the right level at the right time. I

1918
01:40:35,787 --> 01:40:37,707
Speaker 22: think it's going to be very track dependent in China.

1919
01:40:37,787 --> 01:40:40,067
Speaker 22: It seems like that's much less the case. In qualifying

1920
01:40:40,067 --> 01:40:41,827
Speaker 22: it certainly was. You know, we talked about Oliver Baman

1921
01:40:41,827 --> 01:40:43,987
Speaker 22: a little bit earlier and he decided on his last

1922
01:40:44,027 --> 01:40:46,307
Speaker 22: qualifying lab not to think about the management and ended

1923
01:40:46,347 --> 01:40:48,387
Speaker 22: up going slower. So I think in qualifying it is,

1924
01:40:48,427 --> 01:40:51,347
Speaker 22: and that, to my mind, is still a problem because qualifying,

1925
01:40:51,507 --> 01:40:53,387
Speaker 22: even in China, where if you look at an onboard

1926
01:40:53,467 --> 01:40:56,987
Speaker 22: lap it looks close to normal, you can still see

1927
01:40:57,027 --> 01:40:59,107
Speaker 22: areas where the car is just really not being pushed

1928
01:40:59,107 --> 01:41:01,147
Speaker 22: towards limits, and I think that is a shame in

1929
01:41:01,227 --> 01:41:03,147
Speaker 22: the race though, based on the sprint, and we'll wait

1930
01:41:03,187 --> 01:41:04,787
Speaker 22: and see with the Grand Prix as well today because

1931
01:41:04,787 --> 01:41:06,827
Speaker 22: that'll of course look a little bit different. I think

1932
01:41:06,827 --> 01:41:09,027
Speaker 22: it's less solid at track like this where the battery

1933
01:41:09,387 --> 01:41:11,347
Speaker 22: over the course of a race he is just able

1934
01:41:11,387 --> 01:41:14,147
Speaker 22: to recharge itself without the drivers having to do anything different.

1935
01:41:14,867 --> 01:41:16,987
Speaker 22: In that case, they kind of race pretty much normally.

1936
01:41:17,027 --> 01:41:19,107
Speaker 22: Of course, we got this. The boost button that we

1937
01:41:19,147 --> 01:41:21,347
Speaker 22: saw a lot of overtaking between Hamilton and Russell is

1938
01:41:21,427 --> 01:41:24,147
Speaker 22: just one example. I expect that to still play a role,

1939
01:41:24,667 --> 01:41:27,907
Speaker 22: but as long as that doesn't mean that they're overthinking that.

1940
01:41:28,147 --> 01:41:30,147
Speaker 22: I don't see that as too much different in TRS,

1941
01:41:30,187 --> 01:41:32,827
Speaker 22: which admittedly wasn't the emotional catty kind of racing anyway,

1942
01:41:32,867 --> 01:41:35,427
Speaker 22: but I was understood and it has become part of

1943
01:41:35,427 --> 01:41:37,907
Speaker 22: the show over more than a decade. I'm hopeful that

1944
01:41:37,947 --> 01:41:40,507
Speaker 22: this race will actually look more normal, both from us

1945
01:41:40,787 --> 01:41:43,267
Speaker 22: the spectator point of view, but also from the drivers

1946
01:41:43,267 --> 01:41:44,227
Speaker 22: in the cockpit point of view.

1947
01:41:44,227 --> 01:41:45,627
Speaker 4: But we'll have to wait and see and.

1948
01:41:45,627 --> 01:41:48,947
Speaker 3: Last quite literally but not least pulling up the tail

1949
01:41:49,347 --> 01:41:53,387
Speaker 3: what you'd expect this Cadillac A devastated Aston Martin. I

1950
01:41:53,427 --> 01:41:57,107
Speaker 3: don't know how the year is bowling out Williams as well.

1951
01:41:57,507 --> 01:42:00,107
Speaker 3: I'd be a little downcast around that, but I suppose

1952
01:42:00,147 --> 01:42:03,267
Speaker 3: we've got to celebrate Veal through bots because he's coming

1953
01:42:03,427 --> 01:42:05,867
Speaker 3: and he's put a Cadillac ahead of Aston Martin. That's

1954
01:42:05,947 --> 01:42:08,347
Speaker 3: great new He's any such a great human on a

1955
01:42:08,347 --> 01:42:11,547
Speaker 3: wonderful drive. I'm really pleased for him.

1956
01:42:11,787 --> 01:42:13,827
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's really good to see Botas back on the grid.

1957
01:42:13,867 --> 01:42:15,907
Speaker 22: It always felt like his career didn't finish in the

1958
01:42:15,947 --> 01:42:18,307
Speaker 22: right way, having been dropped back to the Souber team,

1959
01:42:18,307 --> 01:42:20,987
Speaker 22: which just got less and less competitive because he went,

1960
01:42:21,467 --> 01:42:23,267
Speaker 22: and even Sergio in Paris. I think for his own sake,

1961
01:42:23,267 --> 01:42:25,107
Speaker 22: he doesn't want that Red Bull chapter to have been

1962
01:42:25,187 --> 01:42:28,027
Speaker 22: his last. Lots of problems for his card, none for

1963
01:42:28,147 --> 01:42:30,307
Speaker 22: Veltry Botas, which is good. That does seem like and

1964
01:42:30,387 --> 01:42:32,987
Speaker 22: it's post for every team, but especially the brand new

1965
01:42:33,027 --> 01:42:36,707
Speaker 22: team Cadillac. The more laps they get building into the weekend, generally,

1966
01:42:36,747 --> 01:42:38,227
Speaker 22: the better that car is going to go, which is

1967
01:42:38,267 --> 01:42:40,467
Speaker 22: not that surprising, it is self evident. But I think

1968
01:42:40,507 --> 01:42:43,027
Speaker 22: we've got the result he with Botas out qualifying Lance Stroll.

1969
01:42:43,267 --> 01:42:45,027
Speaker 22: There's the same more about the Cadillac than it does

1970
01:42:45,107 --> 01:42:47,867
Speaker 22: Lance Stroll. I'll leave that to your imagination, because lancetrolls

1971
01:42:47,867 --> 01:42:49,827
Speaker 22: more than half a second slower than Fernando Orlonzo is a.

1972
01:42:49,827 --> 01:42:50,867
Speaker 7: Couple of places up the grid.

1973
01:42:50,907 --> 01:42:54,147
Speaker 22: But the bottom line is, I mean, well, certainly Aston

1974
01:42:54,147 --> 01:42:56,587
Speaker 22: Martin did not want to be here, to not expect

1975
01:42:56,587 --> 01:42:59,907
Speaker 22: to be here way at the back, competing competing with

1976
01:43:00,027 --> 01:43:02,067
Speaker 22: the new team, the team that's entered one and a

1977
01:43:02,107 --> 01:43:05,267
Speaker 22: half races so far, and it's history that is grim

1978
01:43:05,387 --> 01:43:08,147
Speaker 22: Dey'll be thanks for the longer break we're about to

1979
01:43:08,187 --> 01:43:11,387
Speaker 22: get in April because the two Middle Eastern rounds have

1980
01:43:11,467 --> 01:43:11,987
Speaker 22: been canceled.

1981
01:43:11,987 --> 01:43:13,867
Speaker 7: They might give them a chance to at least replenish

1982
01:43:13,947 --> 01:43:16,307
Speaker 7: their spa, their spare parts stocks.

1983
01:43:16,867 --> 01:43:18,427
Speaker 22: And then Williams as well. You touched on there. This

1984
01:43:18,467 --> 01:43:20,107
Speaker 22: is absolutely not the way they thought that you started

1985
01:43:20,107 --> 01:43:22,787
Speaker 22: this season. The car is really overweight. That's the first problem,

1986
01:43:23,227 --> 01:43:25,227
Speaker 22: but it also just seems like the car generally isn't

1987
01:43:25,267 --> 01:43:27,347
Speaker 22: that good. It's not producing the same kind of grip.

1988
01:43:27,507 --> 01:43:30,227
Speaker 22: I'm Alex Aldon was very unhappy, described it as terrible

1989
01:43:30,267 --> 01:43:32,867
Speaker 22: in one word on his pull down lap. So those

1990
01:43:32,907 --> 01:43:35,107
Speaker 22: three teams, well, no, I should say two of those teams,

1991
01:43:35,147 --> 01:43:38,987
Speaker 22: that'ston Mardon Williams with serious problems. But Cadillac I still

1992
01:43:39,027 --> 01:43:41,307
Speaker 22: think performing pretty much in the way you'd expect a

1993
01:43:41,347 --> 01:43:44,347
Speaker 22: new team to not quite there one hundred percent, but

1994
01:43:44,347 --> 01:43:44,547
Speaker 22: by the.

1995
01:43:44,587 --> 01:43:45,907
Speaker 7: End of the year I'd expect them to be looking

1996
01:43:45,947 --> 01:43:46,707
Speaker 7: much more consistent.

1997
01:43:46,907 --> 01:43:49,187
Speaker 3: I'm really happy for the teams. I'm not happy for

1998
01:43:49,227 --> 01:43:51,347
Speaker 3: Formula one that they've got to not be in the

1999
01:43:51,347 --> 01:43:54,107
Speaker 3: Middle East, but I'm happy that the hard working guys

2000
01:43:54,107 --> 01:43:56,387
Speaker 3: and girls who earn nothing actually get a bit of

2001
01:43:56,427 --> 01:43:59,227
Speaker 3: time off to speak with their families. And I reckon

2002
01:43:59,427 --> 01:44:04,947
Speaker 3: you could outqualify Lance Stroll. Michael, thanks very much for your.

2003
01:44:04,867 --> 01:44:07,667
Speaker 4: Time, matey time.

2004
01:44:07,947 --> 01:44:10,187
Speaker 3: And it will be too because I'll be pasting and

2005
01:44:10,307 --> 01:44:12,307
Speaker 3: again trust me to love what you have to say,

2006
01:44:12,867 --> 01:44:15,987
Speaker 3: and I think you should too. Michael Lamonatteau is a

2007
01:44:16,107 --> 01:44:21,027
Speaker 3: Formula one writer out of Fox Sport, also officially accredited

2008
01:44:21,067 --> 01:44:23,667
Speaker 3: by the FIA to write Formula one. And it's to

2009
01:44:23,667 --> 01:44:28,267
Speaker 3: twenty eight. This is Weekend Sport on News Talk z B.

2010
01:44:28,867 --> 01:44:32,827
Speaker 3: That's the motor Sport. We've still got cricket and rugby

2011
01:44:32,947 --> 01:44:36,187
Speaker 3: union to come Cole Forbes later and the piece. But

2012
01:44:36,307 --> 01:44:39,987
Speaker 3: up next it is Nathan Smith and as we now

2013
01:44:40,107 --> 01:44:44,947
Speaker 3: deal with five games of T twenty double headers, both

2014
01:44:44,987 --> 01:44:48,667
Speaker 3: the Black Caps and the White Ferns are in action.

2015
01:44:48,947 --> 01:44:50,867
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2016
01:44:53,507 --> 01:44:58,787
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2017
01:44:58,987 --> 01:45:01,867
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2018
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2019
01:45:03,307 --> 01:45:06,227
Speaker 3: Two thirty one News Talk z BM Darcy Watergrove Filling

2020
01:45:06,227 --> 01:45:10,347
Speaker 3: in for Jason Pine on weekend Sport cricket on the

2021
01:45:10,387 --> 01:45:13,187
Speaker 3: menu right here, right now. Black Cats back on New

2022
01:45:13,267 --> 01:45:17,387
Speaker 3: Zealand Shores. They play South Africa and their first T

2023
01:45:17,387 --> 01:45:21,627
Speaker 3: twenty at the Mount tonight. That's started seven o'clock and

2024
01:45:21,907 --> 01:45:25,427
Speaker 3: coming up in about all fifteen minutes time the White

2025
01:45:25,467 --> 01:45:29,387
Speaker 3: Ferns take on their South African counterparts. They're all doubleheaders,

2026
01:45:29,787 --> 01:45:35,147
Speaker 3: all five of these T twenty experiences. Nathan Smith, he's

2027
01:45:35,147 --> 01:45:37,987
Speaker 3: a horrible old time with injuries now, hasn't he. Hopefully

2028
01:45:38,267 --> 01:45:40,627
Speaker 3: he'll be back today, like he joins us, now, how

2029
01:45:40,667 --> 01:45:41,267
Speaker 3: are you mate?

2030
01:45:42,267 --> 01:45:42,667
Speaker 4: I'm good?

2031
01:45:42,707 --> 01:45:43,347
Speaker 17: Thanks, so are you?

2032
01:45:43,507 --> 01:45:46,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm magnificent. I tend to try and be that

2033
01:45:46,387 --> 01:45:50,627
Speaker 3: way all the time. It's the nice thing. But you you're

2034
01:45:50,107 --> 01:45:54,267
Speaker 3: finally back playing again. That Nathan Smith one day cricketer,

2035
01:45:54,467 --> 01:45:56,307
Speaker 3: it's a Test cricketer. And then he had to have

2036
01:45:56,347 --> 01:45:58,347
Speaker 3: a cup of teen to lie down because his side

2037
01:45:58,387 --> 01:46:02,347
Speaker 3: fell apart. So you've been out for quite some time.

2038
01:46:02,587 --> 01:46:05,747
Speaker 3: Took us through the injury. You're recovering from how it

2039
01:46:05,787 --> 01:46:06,227
Speaker 3: went through.

2040
01:46:07,427 --> 01:46:08,507
Speaker 17: Yeah, so fully recovered.

2041
01:46:08,507 --> 01:46:08,747
Speaker 4: Now.

2042
01:46:09,587 --> 01:46:10,507
Speaker 17: Initially you know.

2043
01:46:10,587 --> 01:46:12,467
Speaker 23: During the Test match thought it was a side strain

2044
01:46:12,587 --> 01:46:16,107
Speaker 23: but turned into a little bit more of a ribbon

2045
01:46:16,147 --> 01:46:20,867
Speaker 23: pingement type injury, which was like if imagine if you're

2046
01:46:21,627 --> 01:46:24,387
Speaker 23: you're sort of you know, you're eating eating some spare

2047
01:46:24,467 --> 01:46:25,987
Speaker 23: ribs and you you kind of get to the bone

2048
01:46:25,987 --> 01:46:28,827
Speaker 23: and there's that little bit of like sheath on the bone.

2049
01:46:29,227 --> 01:46:30,867
Speaker 23: I pulled a little bit of that off my ribs.

2050
01:46:30,907 --> 01:46:32,187
Speaker 23: So that took.

2051
01:46:32,027 --> 01:46:34,907
Speaker 17: A little bit longer to hell, unfortunately. But we're back now.

2052
01:46:34,907 --> 01:46:35,667
Speaker 17: I've been playing some.

2053
01:46:35,627 --> 01:46:38,227
Speaker 23: Domestic cricket for the last sort of month, six weeks

2054
01:46:38,307 --> 01:46:41,827
Speaker 23: and yeah, looking forward to this the series against Africa.

2055
01:46:41,987 --> 01:46:45,067
Speaker 3: So you're one handy right your back, You've you've bold,

2056
01:46:45,147 --> 01:46:47,867
Speaker 3: you've batted from time to time and everything's working. Yeah.

2057
01:46:48,107 --> 01:46:48,987
Speaker 17: Yeah, we're good as gold.

2058
01:46:49,027 --> 01:46:51,707
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm never going to about to eat spare ribs

2059
01:46:51,707 --> 01:46:54,227
Speaker 3: again because I'm want to think about is pulling your

2060
01:46:54,307 --> 01:46:57,267
Speaker 3: spare ribs off of your body and chewing on Nathan Smith.

2061
01:46:57,307 --> 01:47:00,427
Speaker 3: So thanks for honing it that way. So form wise,

2062
01:47:00,547 --> 01:47:02,947
Speaker 3: how well are you playing right now? Because there's that

2063
01:47:03,067 --> 01:47:06,947
Speaker 3: like real interesting space when there are so many quicks

2064
01:47:06,947 --> 01:47:09,467
Speaker 3: who are aiming for that same spot. So where are

2065
01:47:09,507 --> 01:47:10,427
Speaker 3: you at playing wise?

2066
01:47:11,507 --> 01:47:13,707
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's a tough one result sort of come and go,

2067
01:47:13,747 --> 01:47:16,027
Speaker 23: which is that's the nature of the sport we play.

2068
01:47:16,027 --> 01:47:16,827
Speaker 17: They're pretty fickle.

2069
01:47:17,147 --> 01:47:19,307
Speaker 23: Some days you can bowl really well and you know,

2070
01:47:19,387 --> 01:47:22,067
Speaker 23: not get wickets, and other days you get lucky following

2071
01:47:22,107 --> 01:47:23,907
Speaker 23: a few half trackers that get caught a deep square.

2072
01:47:24,027 --> 01:47:26,787
Speaker 23: So in terms of the outcomes, you don't. I'm not

2073
01:47:26,827 --> 01:47:29,027
Speaker 23: trying to ride that too much. But I'm feeling pretty good.

2074
01:47:29,027 --> 01:47:31,227
Speaker 23: The balls coming out well, the rhythm. The rhythm took

2075
01:47:31,227 --> 01:47:32,987
Speaker 23: a couple of games to come back, but I feel

2076
01:47:33,027 --> 01:47:35,387
Speaker 23: like it's there now and I'm you know, I'm hitting

2077
01:47:35,427 --> 01:47:37,267
Speaker 23: the crease hard and with the bat, I've spent a

2078
01:47:37,307 --> 01:47:38,707
Speaker 23: bit of time in the middle and the plunket with it,

2079
01:47:38,747 --> 01:47:40,867
Speaker 23: with the plunket shield over the last sort of you know,

2080
01:47:40,987 --> 01:47:42,907
Speaker 23: two weeks, I'm starting to feel pretty good.

2081
01:47:42,987 --> 01:47:46,387
Speaker 3: All right, so middling it good, good timing. You know

2082
01:47:46,547 --> 01:47:49,947
Speaker 3: your play. So when you play for the black Caps

2083
01:47:50,027 --> 01:47:52,467
Speaker 3: next time, and it may well be tonight, we don't

2084
01:47:52,507 --> 01:47:54,707
Speaker 3: know the naming of the team yet, you feel you're

2085
01:47:54,747 --> 01:47:57,947
Speaker 3: going to better contribute. You're on You're on all your cylinders.

2086
01:47:58,707 --> 01:48:00,947
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm feeling good, feeling good, Darcy.

2087
01:48:01,267 --> 01:48:02,947
Speaker 3: They're traveling up there. There was a pain in the

2088
01:48:02,947 --> 01:48:04,587
Speaker 3: back side, though, wasn't. I think you had a bit

2089
01:48:04,627 --> 01:48:07,387
Speaker 3: of a journey to even actually keep here in the

2090
01:48:07,427 --> 01:48:09,227
Speaker 3: first place. That's got to put a bit of strain

2091
01:48:09,347 --> 01:48:09,547
Speaker 3: on you.

2092
01:48:10,387 --> 01:48:12,667
Speaker 23: Oh yeah, you know, we're sort of used to that

2093
01:48:12,747 --> 01:48:13,147
Speaker 23: now though.

2094
01:48:13,787 --> 01:48:15,707
Speaker 17: When you're playing the subcontinent.

2095
01:48:15,067 --> 01:48:17,667
Speaker 23: You usually get you usually get three am flights in

2096
01:48:17,707 --> 01:48:19,907
Speaker 23: between in between. I mean, we had it in the

2097
01:48:19,947 --> 01:48:21,667
Speaker 23: Champions Trophy, didn't we We sort of had to get

2098
01:48:21,707 --> 01:48:24,107
Speaker 23: up at three am and fly between Dubai and Pakistan.

2099
01:48:24,227 --> 01:48:26,347
Speaker 23: So you know, we we're used to this now and

2100
01:48:26,347 --> 01:48:28,107
Speaker 23: we just adapt and we get on with it.

2101
01:48:28,387 --> 01:48:30,827
Speaker 3: Are you good at watching the Black Caps play when

2102
01:48:30,867 --> 01:48:31,747
Speaker 3: you're not involved?

2103
01:48:31,747 --> 01:48:32,307
Speaker 4: Do you do that?

2104
01:48:32,427 --> 01:48:33,627
Speaker 3: Or you just run and hide?

2105
01:48:34,467 --> 01:48:35,667
Speaker 17: No? No, I do watch it.

2106
01:48:35,747 --> 01:48:37,587
Speaker 23: I checked in during the World Cup, which was awesome

2107
01:48:37,587 --> 01:48:39,787
Speaker 23: to see how well they did there. You know, unfortunately

2108
01:48:39,987 --> 01:48:41,627
Speaker 23: couldn't get over the line in the final, but it.

2109
01:48:41,587 --> 01:48:43,427
Speaker 17: Was it was an awesome campaign to follow.

2110
01:48:43,147 --> 01:48:46,467
Speaker 23: And and yeah, everyone was behind them and they can

2111
01:48:46,507 --> 01:48:48,227
Speaker 23: be really proud of that that World Cup campaign.

2112
01:48:48,587 --> 01:48:50,827
Speaker 3: A few people have ripped on the fact that the

2113
01:48:50,867 --> 01:48:53,267
Speaker 3: bowlers took a bit of tap, but I choose to

2114
01:48:53,267 --> 01:48:56,227
Speaker 3: look in the other direction. That was India at home

2115
01:48:56,467 --> 01:49:00,227
Speaker 3: defending a title and they were giving everybody a bit

2116
01:49:00,267 --> 01:49:04,107
Speaker 3: of tap they bettered. It was another that wasn't cricket

2117
01:49:04,427 --> 01:49:06,507
Speaker 3: the way they were playing. It was on another lit eve,

2118
01:49:06,707 --> 01:49:07,067
Speaker 3: wasn't it.

2119
01:49:07,627 --> 01:49:09,907
Speaker 23: Yeah, And it's just it's not just it's not just India,

2120
01:49:09,947 --> 01:49:14,307
Speaker 23: you know, those those pictures are not conducive to.

2121
01:49:13,667 --> 01:49:15,827
Speaker 17: To s seam bowling anyway.

2122
01:49:15,947 --> 01:49:19,707
Speaker 23: And I mean two fifty is becoming so common now,

2123
01:49:19,827 --> 01:49:22,067
Speaker 23: Like how often are we seeing two fifty And we're going, oh, yeah,

2124
01:49:22,107 --> 01:49:24,667
Speaker 23: that's kind of you know, we're not whereas like two hundred.

2125
01:49:24,667 --> 01:49:26,547
Speaker 23: Back in the day, we were like far out two hundred,

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01:49:26,627 --> 01:49:26,827
Speaker 23: you know.

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01:49:26,907 --> 01:49:28,507
Speaker 17: So it's just it is.

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01:49:28,827 --> 01:49:32,067
Speaker 23: I understand the batting has gone to another to another planet,

2129
01:49:32,147 --> 01:49:34,867
Speaker 23: but the seam bowling is tough. But I think potentially,

2130
01:49:34,907 --> 01:49:36,907
Speaker 23: you know, bowlers are going to have to find ways

2131
01:49:36,907 --> 01:49:38,067
Speaker 23: and you're probably going to see it over the next

2132
01:49:38,067 --> 01:49:41,107
Speaker 23: few years of bowlers trying to, you know, find either

2133
01:49:41,267 --> 01:49:44,027
Speaker 23: either work on their execution or find different different ways

2134
01:49:44,027 --> 01:49:46,067
Speaker 23: to try the effective What are you trying?

2135
01:49:46,387 --> 01:49:48,787
Speaker 3: You're looking at that you know you're going to have

2136
01:49:48,907 --> 01:49:50,987
Speaker 3: to deal with these batsmen and the way they roll.

2137
01:49:51,387 --> 01:49:54,027
Speaker 3: What South Africa managed to do before they folded in

2138
01:49:54,067 --> 01:49:57,067
Speaker 3: that semi What are you looking at? How are you

2139
01:49:57,147 --> 01:49:58,507
Speaker 3: going to go about your business?

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01:49:59,067 --> 01:50:00,907
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean there's an element of there's an element

2141
01:50:00,947 --> 01:50:01,347
Speaker 17: of what I.

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01:50:01,347 --> 01:50:02,987
Speaker 23: Bring to the table, and then there's the you know,

2143
01:50:03,027 --> 01:50:04,227
Speaker 23: the conditions you're playing with.

2144
01:50:05,747 --> 01:50:07,067
Speaker 17: You know, there's some variables, but.

2145
01:50:07,067 --> 01:50:09,907
Speaker 23: I think kind of the scouting is the main thing,

2146
01:50:09,907 --> 01:50:12,027
Speaker 23: and then I guess it comes down to what's the

2147
01:50:12,107 --> 01:50:15,667
Speaker 23: pitch offering you at the time. And then to be

2148
01:50:15,667 --> 01:50:17,667
Speaker 23: honest with you, it's just a game of execution really.

2149
01:50:19,667 --> 01:50:21,227
Speaker 23: You know, I suppose you see look at Bomber, he

2150
01:50:21,547 --> 01:50:23,107
Speaker 23: goes at six and over in India because he can

2151
01:50:23,187 --> 01:50:25,147
Speaker 23: nail a Yorker and he's got a great slabyll.

2152
01:50:25,227 --> 01:50:26,467
Speaker 17: So it's like, you know, if.

2153
01:50:26,387 --> 01:50:28,907
Speaker 23: You if you can execute, and you can you can

2154
01:50:28,907 --> 01:50:30,867
Speaker 23: be nice and calm under pressure, then I think you

2155
01:50:30,907 --> 01:50:33,987
Speaker 23: can be effective. For me, it's, you know, doing what

2156
01:50:34,067 --> 01:50:36,627
Speaker 23: I do really well, running in heading the look at hard,

2157
01:50:37,427 --> 01:50:39,547
Speaker 23: nailing a Yorker and then and then being smart around

2158
01:50:39,547 --> 01:50:42,227
Speaker 23: my around my slabls. So you know, I think it's

2159
01:50:42,307 --> 01:50:45,107
Speaker 23: it's it looks something like that when I'm playing well.

2160
01:50:45,187 --> 01:50:46,507
Speaker 17: So hopefully you can replicate that.

2161
01:50:46,507 --> 01:50:49,107
Speaker 3: If I get a run and Nathan Smith that joins us.

2162
01:50:49,187 --> 01:50:52,027
Speaker 3: And I suppose you can't just have one different delivery.

2163
01:50:52,067 --> 01:50:55,067
Speaker 3: You've got to have a number of different weapons in

2164
01:50:55,107 --> 01:50:56,947
Speaker 3: your quiver, don't you.

2165
01:50:56,947 --> 01:50:58,747
Speaker 17: You do you do need you do need a few.

2166
01:50:58,827 --> 01:51:02,507
Speaker 23: But if I just if they're just okay as well

2167
01:51:02,547 --> 01:51:04,747
Speaker 23: then and they don't have any deception, then.

2168
01:51:04,987 --> 01:51:06,307
Speaker 17: You know the betters are too good. They're going to

2169
01:51:06,347 --> 01:51:07,227
Speaker 17: they're going to put you away.

2170
01:51:07,307 --> 01:51:09,347
Speaker 23: So I think, you know, that's that's where the skill

2171
01:51:09,347 --> 01:51:11,147
Speaker 23: with the bowlers is really important.

2172
01:51:11,187 --> 01:51:15,187
Speaker 17: And keep to keep working on that execution, so you.

2173
01:51:15,147 --> 01:51:18,107
Speaker 23: Know, you're developing, you know, some world class deliveries that

2174
01:51:18,147 --> 01:51:19,587
Speaker 23: you can go to a sort of anytime.

2175
01:51:19,747 --> 01:51:22,347
Speaker 17: That's sort of the I mean, that's at its at

2176
01:51:22,387 --> 01:51:23,067
Speaker 17: its very best.

2177
01:51:23,107 --> 01:51:26,907
Speaker 23: So hopefully, you know, hopefully we can keep working on

2178
01:51:26,907 --> 01:51:29,187
Speaker 23: that and I can sort of push my way to

2179
01:51:29,227 --> 01:51:30,067
Speaker 23: this T twenty team.

2180
01:51:30,147 --> 01:51:32,547
Speaker 3: Nathan, do you bristle when people say this is not

2181
01:51:32,587 --> 01:51:35,227
Speaker 3: a proper black Caps team because most of the players

2182
01:51:35,267 --> 01:51:36,947
Speaker 3: are off having a cup of team to lie down

2183
01:51:36,987 --> 01:51:39,667
Speaker 3: before they head back to India again? How do you

2184
01:51:39,747 --> 01:51:41,547
Speaker 3: feel about that accusation?

2185
01:51:43,827 --> 01:51:46,987
Speaker 23: I personally haven't heard that accusation, but I'm assuming, I'm

2186
01:51:46,987 --> 01:51:47,707
Speaker 23: assuming you.

2187
01:51:48,227 --> 01:51:50,947
Speaker 3: Talk about radio mate, Yeah, I'm.

2188
01:51:50,787 --> 01:51:53,907
Speaker 23: Assuming, Well, the way the way I see it, is

2189
01:51:53,907 --> 01:51:56,267
Speaker 23: For me, it's it's you know, it's a great opportunity

2190
01:51:57,347 --> 01:51:59,347
Speaker 23: to play for New Zealand and T twenty cricket and

2191
01:52:00,187 --> 01:52:02,867
Speaker 23: you know, ultimately I want to I want to play

2192
01:52:02,867 --> 01:52:04,147
Speaker 23: all three formats for New Zealand.

2193
01:52:04,227 --> 01:52:08,107
Speaker 17: So yeah, hopefully can go do well and you know,

2194
01:52:08,387 --> 01:52:10,027
Speaker 17: it is what it is. I guess really the guys

2195
01:52:10,107 --> 01:52:10,387
Speaker 17: have just.

2196
01:52:10,307 --> 01:52:12,747
Speaker 23: Played an amazing World Cup campaign and they've got ipl

2197
01:52:12,787 --> 01:52:16,387
Speaker 23: commitments which is you know, pre agreed upon.

2198
01:52:16,507 --> 01:52:18,627
Speaker 17: So for me it's just you know, I sort of

2199
01:52:18,627 --> 01:52:18,907
Speaker 17: reap the.

2200
01:52:18,947 --> 01:52:20,707
Speaker 23: Rewards of that and get to play a few games

2201
01:52:20,707 --> 01:52:21,547
Speaker 23: for New Zealand hopefully.

2202
01:52:21,787 --> 01:52:24,707
Speaker 3: Well, there's no such thing as an eleven that plays

2203
01:52:24,787 --> 01:52:29,187
Speaker 3: every format anymore. There's thirty guys out there who can

2204
01:52:29,267 --> 01:52:32,427
Speaker 3: do it and on T twenty representing Have you got

2205
01:52:32,587 --> 01:52:35,347
Speaker 3: a line on what has to happen for New Zealand

2206
01:52:35,347 --> 01:52:39,027
Speaker 3: cricket as far as our domestic T twenty competition is concerned,

2207
01:52:39,027 --> 01:52:41,627
Speaker 3: because there are options everywhere? Do you lean toward any

2208
01:52:41,667 --> 01:52:42,507
Speaker 3: of those names?

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Speaker 23: Are you talking sorry, are you talking about with the

2210
01:52:45,027 --> 01:52:46,867
Speaker 23: way New Zealand cricket's going to go next year?

2211
01:52:46,947 --> 01:52:49,547
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, with a super smash, the adjusted supersmash or

2212
01:52:49,547 --> 01:52:51,827
Speaker 3: the big bash of the NZED twenty. There's a lot

2213
01:52:51,827 --> 01:52:54,227
Speaker 3: of options out there. Do you lean any of them?

2214
01:52:54,467 --> 01:52:55,187
Speaker 17: Yeah, I definitely.

2215
01:52:55,187 --> 01:52:57,267
Speaker 23: I think, you know, in New Zealand twenty would be

2216
01:52:57,467 --> 01:52:59,947
Speaker 23: the best option for players within New Zealand and for

2217
01:52:59,987 --> 01:53:00,787
Speaker 23: New Zealand cricket.

2218
01:53:03,227 --> 01:53:04,947
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think it's the best way to grow the.

2219
01:53:04,867 --> 01:53:08,027
Speaker 23: Game in New Zealand, get the backing behind and then yeah,

2220
01:53:08,307 --> 01:53:09,187
Speaker 23: it should be pretty fun.

2221
01:53:09,227 --> 01:53:10,107
Speaker 17: I think if it.

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01:53:10,067 --> 01:53:12,907
Speaker 3: Goes ahead, well, there's a chance next year a lot

2223
01:53:12,947 --> 01:53:15,227
Speaker 3: of the tests might have to be curtail removed to

2224
01:53:15,387 --> 01:53:17,707
Speaker 3: that window. That doesn't concern you at all.

2225
01:53:18,907 --> 01:53:23,707
Speaker 23: Oh that's that's above that's above my pay grades, you know, scheduling.

2226
01:53:24,987 --> 01:53:27,587
Speaker 23: But yeah, I think I think whatever decision they make,

2227
01:53:27,627 --> 01:53:29,667
Speaker 23: you know, the players, players are going to be happy.

2228
01:53:29,707 --> 01:53:32,307
Speaker 23: And there's a lot of chat around the best players

2229
01:53:32,307 --> 01:53:35,467
Speaker 23: not playing Super Smash as it is, so hopefully, you know,

2230
01:53:35,507 --> 01:53:37,507
Speaker 23: after games, all the games are still going to go ahead,

2231
01:53:37,547 --> 01:53:40,627
Speaker 23: so hopefully they can find a result there. But yeah,

2232
01:53:40,627 --> 01:53:42,827
Speaker 23: I think all the players will be happy regardless, especially

2233
01:53:42,867 --> 01:53:43,827
Speaker 23: if this comp goes ahead.

2234
01:53:43,947 --> 01:53:47,027
Speaker 3: Well, let's hope you get the NOD more importantly for

2235
01:53:47,147 --> 01:53:49,987
Speaker 3: the evening and you.

2236
01:53:49,587 --> 01:53:50,107
Speaker 14: Tear it up.

2237
01:53:50,227 --> 01:53:52,987
Speaker 3: Nathan Smith. Thanks so much for joining us as per mate.

2238
01:53:53,027 --> 01:53:55,827
Speaker 17: You look after your soir chairs, darsy, Thanks mate.

2239
01:53:55,747 --> 01:53:58,147
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for your time. To to forty five

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Speaker 3: the women start their first of five T twenties. They're

2241
01:54:00,747 --> 01:54:05,267
Speaker 3: all doubleheaders. Seven fifteen the men get underway. It's twenty

2242
01:54:05,267 --> 01:54:07,627
Speaker 3: minutes to call it?

2243
01:54:07,867 --> 01:54:08,627
Speaker 2: How you see it?

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01:54:08,747 --> 01:54:14,667
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Speaker 3: another chapter. Today the Blues host Minor Pacifica at Eden

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01:54:26,187 --> 01:54:30,267
Speaker 3: Park the Saturday joining us now Blues fall back. Cole Forbes, go,

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Speaker 3: how are you? Did you recover well from last week's niggle? Yeah?

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01:54:35,387 --> 01:54:37,667
Speaker 24: That all all well, got through training all good this

2252
01:54:37,787 --> 01:54:40,707
Speaker 24: week and yeah stoked to be back in the lineup

2253
01:54:40,747 --> 01:54:42,587
Speaker 24: to take on the rivals.

2254
01:54:43,467 --> 01:54:45,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we talked about a niggle? What what? How

2255
01:54:45,907 --> 01:54:48,147
Speaker 3: big a niggle? I mean when you realize it was

2256
01:54:48,147 --> 01:54:50,107
Speaker 3: only a little or did you freak out last week

2257
01:54:50,107 --> 01:54:52,067
Speaker 3: and goo this could be worse? Or what was the

2258
01:54:52,107 --> 01:54:52,667
Speaker 3: deal around?

2259
01:54:52,707 --> 01:54:53,067
Speaker 9: Now?

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01:54:53,427 --> 01:54:55,067
Speaker 14: Was sort of just.

2261
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Speaker 24: The rolld Ankle and the Bumbies game and then yeah,

2262
01:54:58,187 --> 01:55:02,387
Speaker 24: sort of, yeah, it wasn't too worried, and then you

2263
01:55:02,547 --> 01:55:04,747
Speaker 24: got through back end and it was still sort of

2264
01:55:05,067 --> 01:55:08,067
Speaker 24: not one hundred percent, so sort of just have one

2265
01:55:08,067 --> 01:55:09,707
Speaker 24: week to rest it and then yeah, get back to

2266
01:55:09,747 --> 01:55:12,587
Speaker 24: training this week and they're all as well, so good

2267
01:55:12,587 --> 01:55:12,867
Speaker 24: to go.

2268
01:55:12,947 --> 01:55:15,187
Speaker 3: Really, buddy, got a good thing, isn't it? Not that

2269
01:55:15,227 --> 01:55:16,667
Speaker 3: you want to miss out on a game, but just

2270
01:55:16,667 --> 01:55:18,507
Speaker 3: to have that mental rest for a week give you

2271
01:55:18,547 --> 01:55:20,627
Speaker 3: a little bit of reving when you get back in

2272
01:55:20,667 --> 01:55:23,467
Speaker 3: there again, you make the most of that opportunity or am

2273
01:55:23,427 --> 01:55:24,387
Speaker 3: I completely wrong?

2274
01:55:26,067 --> 01:55:28,387
Speaker 24: Yeah it is. It is a good mental rest, but

2275
01:55:28,467 --> 01:55:31,147
Speaker 24: you're missing out on playe and seeing the boys do

2276
01:55:31,227 --> 01:55:34,587
Speaker 24: that to the Crusaders always makes you happy. But yeah,

2277
01:55:34,667 --> 01:55:37,107
Speaker 24: it's obviously a good mental reset, and there's a long season,

2278
01:55:37,187 --> 01:55:40,507
Speaker 24: so I don't want anything to nip you in now

2279
01:55:40,747 --> 01:55:41,867
Speaker 24: at the back end of the season.

2280
01:55:42,107 --> 01:55:44,107
Speaker 3: So what did you pull out of that game? Obviously

2281
01:55:44,187 --> 01:55:46,947
Speaker 3: went playing, but you would have been working on all

2282
01:55:47,027 --> 01:55:50,147
Speaker 3: week with Vernon the like about what actually worked for

2283
01:55:50,187 --> 01:55:53,147
Speaker 3: you against the Crusaders because you shoot them and you

2284
01:55:53,187 --> 01:55:54,107
Speaker 3: can tell.

2285
01:55:55,947 --> 01:55:58,867
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think you sort of know the Crusaders their

2286
01:55:58,947 --> 01:56:01,667
Speaker 24: DNA is sort of take you to set peace and

2287
01:56:01,707 --> 01:56:04,427
Speaker 24: then sort of win that like hight Bettle in the

2288
01:56:04,467 --> 01:56:07,747
Speaker 24: physical area of the game. Sort of we preview that,

2289
01:56:07,867 --> 01:56:09,627
Speaker 24: or we we knew what was coming and sort of

2290
01:56:09,667 --> 01:56:13,467
Speaker 24: just we knew after our sort of performance against the

2291
01:56:13,467 --> 01:56:15,667
Speaker 24: Brumbies that we played well in patches, but we didn't

2292
01:56:16,027 --> 01:56:18,587
Speaker 24: string it together consistently. So the main goal was just

2293
01:56:18,627 --> 01:56:22,027
Speaker 24: sort of nail our game plan in our DNA for

2294
01:56:22,067 --> 01:56:24,507
Speaker 24: the whole eighty minutes. So I think we really did that,

2295
01:56:24,587 --> 01:56:26,267
Speaker 24: and obviously the results showed on the weekend.

2296
01:56:27,267 --> 01:56:30,067
Speaker 3: When you look to that success last week, that's all

2297
01:56:30,067 --> 01:56:33,027
Speaker 3: well and good, but you're professional, so you'll dig through

2298
01:56:33,147 --> 01:56:35,627
Speaker 3: the weeds of that and what didn't work and what

2299
01:56:35,667 --> 01:56:38,267
Speaker 3: you have to improve on. Am I right. I'm sure

2300
01:56:38,307 --> 01:56:41,387
Speaker 3: that Veron celebrated, but he looked one side again, Nab,

2301
01:56:41,387 --> 01:56:43,307
Speaker 3: But you need to do this better boys.

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01:56:44,107 --> 01:56:47,107
Speaker 24: Yeah, definitely, like your team, you look at it and

2303
01:56:47,227 --> 01:56:49,627
Speaker 24: obviously you want to get better than the following weekend.

2304
01:56:49,627 --> 01:56:51,307
Speaker 24: I think a big one we've focused on this week

2305
01:56:51,347 --> 01:56:55,187
Speaker 24: has been discipline, sort of yellow cards against the Brumbies

2306
01:56:55,187 --> 01:56:56,867
Speaker 24: there and the Crusaders have sort of hand put us

2307
01:56:56,907 --> 01:57:00,587
Speaker 24: that's when we've leaked our points. So big, big mark

2308
01:57:00,627 --> 01:57:03,147
Speaker 24: on discipline this week, not giving away super penalties and

2309
01:57:03,187 --> 01:57:08,027
Speaker 24: giving one a second chances.

2310
01:57:06,467 --> 01:57:11,307
Speaker 3: To constant, isn't it coaches talking about discipline? Plainly, it's

2311
01:57:11,347 --> 01:57:15,467
Speaker 3: a lot more difficult than people realize. What do you

2312
01:57:15,467 --> 01:57:18,027
Speaker 3: think it makes it such a stretch because guys are

2313
01:57:18,147 --> 01:57:20,867
Speaker 3: always getting carded and it happens right the way through

2314
01:57:20,867 --> 01:57:23,267
Speaker 3: the season. And when people do, they go only got carded.

2315
01:57:23,267 --> 01:57:25,667
Speaker 3: But we're going to watch our discipline. Why is this?

2316
01:57:25,947 --> 01:57:27,227
Speaker 3: Why do you guys fold into this?

2317
01:57:28,587 --> 01:57:31,427
Speaker 24: No, it is a cliche every coach, every team, you

2318
01:57:31,467 --> 01:57:32,747
Speaker 24: talk about it, But I think it's just in.

2319
01:57:32,707 --> 01:57:33,547
Speaker 9: The heat of the moment.

2320
01:57:34,707 --> 01:57:36,947
Speaker 24: So you get those boys that are sort of, oh,

2321
01:57:36,987 --> 01:57:38,827
Speaker 24: should I have a jack or should I go at

2322
01:57:38,867 --> 01:57:40,307
Speaker 24: the ball? And you sort of in the heat of moment,

2323
01:57:40,307 --> 01:57:42,307
Speaker 24: you make that split second decision and then you look

2324
01:57:42,827 --> 01:57:44,827
Speaker 24: got it on the boots and you're like, why did

2325
01:57:44,867 --> 01:57:46,987
Speaker 24: I do that? But I think, yeah, it is just

2326
01:57:47,067 --> 01:57:49,307
Speaker 24: something you've got to I think that you've got to

2327
01:57:49,307 --> 01:57:51,267
Speaker 24: train it. So you've got to be disciplined at training

2328
01:57:51,267 --> 01:57:53,667
Speaker 24: because we've sort of noticed that we haven't been as

2329
01:57:53,667 --> 01:57:55,907
Speaker 24: harder on each other in training and then it's creeping

2330
01:57:55,907 --> 01:57:57,827
Speaker 24: into the game. So I think that's sort of been

2331
01:57:57,827 --> 01:58:00,107
Speaker 24: the ship this week, just sort of if we're going

2332
01:58:00,147 --> 01:58:02,347
Speaker 24: to pull each other up and train, then it's going

2333
01:58:02,387 --> 01:58:03,347
Speaker 24: to help us in the weekend.

2334
01:58:03,787 --> 01:58:09,627
Speaker 3: What's your disciplinary record, like Cole, I think I'm pretty

2335
01:58:10,227 --> 01:58:11,027
Speaker 3: squeaky clean.

2336
01:58:11,107 --> 01:58:14,307
Speaker 24: I've had a few yellow cards, I think, but that's

2337
01:58:14,307 --> 01:58:17,507
Speaker 24: about it. Nothing the old typical outside back slap down

2338
01:58:17,547 --> 01:58:19,987
Speaker 24: ones and that's yeah. I had a couple of those,

2339
01:58:20,027 --> 01:58:22,827
Speaker 24: but nothing, nothing too bad, I don't think.

2340
01:58:23,467 --> 01:58:26,987
Speaker 3: Not the problem right up in front what you are, though,

2341
01:58:27,107 --> 01:58:29,467
Speaker 3: there's a problem for Zarn Sullivan. He's been playing the

2342
01:58:29,507 --> 01:58:31,267
Speaker 3: house down, but he's on the bench now that you've

2343
01:58:31,307 --> 01:58:32,787
Speaker 3: come back. You've got still mates.

2344
01:58:34,107 --> 01:58:36,947
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, he's been playing really well. It's good to

2345
01:58:36,947 --> 01:58:39,747
Speaker 24: see him healthy because he's had a few injuries in

2346
01:58:39,747 --> 01:58:41,547
Speaker 24: the last couple of seasons. Has sort of just hindered

2347
01:58:41,627 --> 01:58:43,587
Speaker 24: him sometimes. But it's really good to see him getting

2348
01:58:43,587 --> 01:58:45,987
Speaker 24: some game time. And it's got a huge left boot

2349
01:58:45,987 --> 01:58:48,027
Speaker 24: and he's got their good running games, so it's been

2350
01:58:48,067 --> 01:58:50,467
Speaker 24: good to see him playing. And then yeah, you've got

2351
01:58:50,507 --> 01:58:52,747
Speaker 24: Cody Buyer as well, also had a boody good run

2352
01:58:52,787 --> 01:58:55,307
Speaker 24: on the wing, so it's good, healthy competition in the

2353
01:58:55,347 --> 01:58:55,907
Speaker 24: back three.

2354
01:58:56,227 --> 01:58:59,307
Speaker 3: It's exciting Blues Rugby at the moment, you'd be feeling

2355
01:58:59,467 --> 01:59:02,107
Speaker 3: that energy. I mean, if you ever stop training or

2356
01:59:02,187 --> 01:59:04,747
Speaker 3: like you know, stop eating, do you actually get the

2357
01:59:04,787 --> 01:59:07,987
Speaker 3: idea around the general public that there's something happening.

2358
01:59:09,267 --> 01:59:13,107
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think the especially the last couple of home games,

2359
01:59:13,107 --> 01:59:15,707
Speaker 24: there's been a good little buzz around them. You sort

2360
01:59:15,707 --> 01:59:18,067
Speaker 24: of feel the atmosphere and the buzz before you're walking

2361
01:59:18,067 --> 01:59:21,027
Speaker 24: in and stuff, and it has been noticeable, like good

2362
01:59:21,067 --> 01:59:24,267
Speaker 24: crowds and everything. It's like the boys like, you know,

2363
01:59:24,267 --> 01:59:26,587
Speaker 24: you feed off that and sort of Yeah, I wanted

2364
01:59:26,627 --> 01:59:29,427
Speaker 24: to make a good run of the composition this year.

2365
01:59:29,867 --> 01:59:32,027
Speaker 3: What's your drive for the season, Cole? What do you

2366
01:59:32,107 --> 01:59:33,467
Speaker 3: look to achieve? What do you want to do, What

2367
01:59:33,467 --> 01:59:34,707
Speaker 3: do you want to clean up? What do you want

2368
01:59:34,707 --> 01:59:35,187
Speaker 3: to work with?

2369
01:59:37,467 --> 01:59:40,147
Speaker 24: Definitely, I think every player was the one championship, So

2370
01:59:40,307 --> 01:59:43,027
Speaker 24: that's probably our main goal as a group is when

2371
01:59:43,307 --> 01:59:45,667
Speaker 24: you know, when the title and you know, we've got

2372
01:59:45,707 --> 01:59:47,627
Speaker 24: to definitely go good squad and we're hitting in the

2373
01:59:47,707 --> 01:59:50,387
Speaker 24: right direction. So I think there's nothing that nothing's stopping

2374
01:59:50,507 --> 01:59:51,107
Speaker 24: us really.

2375
01:59:50,907 --> 01:59:56,067
Speaker 3: Just ourselves and your place, your place in this whole structure.

2376
01:59:56,387 --> 01:59:59,507
Speaker 3: Where do you see you leading or assisting? What does

2377
02:00:00,027 --> 02:00:03,907
Speaker 3: Cole Forbes need to do to help rest that title

2378
02:00:03,947 --> 02:00:05,147
Speaker 3: away from the Crusaders.

2379
02:00:06,707 --> 02:00:09,667
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think it's just yeah, it was just nailing

2380
02:00:09,747 --> 02:00:12,267
Speaker 24: sort of whatever my role is for the week, if

2381
02:00:12,307 --> 02:00:14,187
Speaker 24: it's on the wing, if it's a fullback, if it's

2382
02:00:14,187 --> 02:00:15,987
Speaker 24: on the bench, or if it's in the non twenty three,

2383
02:00:16,107 --> 02:00:19,587
Speaker 24: just doing my job of each week and they, you know,

2384
02:00:19,667 --> 02:00:21,827
Speaker 24: getting the boys ready for however there may be. But

2385
02:00:21,867 --> 02:00:24,267
Speaker 24: I think, yeah, we're hitting in the right direction, So

2386
02:00:24,827 --> 02:00:26,427
Speaker 24: I'm just going to do what I can really to

2387
02:00:26,587 --> 02:00:28,347
Speaker 24: keep that winning ways going.

2388
02:00:28,907 --> 02:00:31,027
Speaker 3: You got a preference where do you like to play?

2389
02:00:31,067 --> 02:00:32,387
Speaker 3: And I know what you're going to say, and so

2390
02:00:32,667 --> 02:00:34,587
Speaker 3: as long as I'm playing on as long as I'm picked,

2391
02:00:34,627 --> 02:00:37,267
Speaker 3: I don't mind. But really, we would you rather play?

2392
02:00:38,787 --> 02:00:41,587
Speaker 24: I think, yeah, that cliche is definitely you'd rather be

2393
02:00:41,627 --> 02:00:43,787
Speaker 24: in the starting line up than sitting in the stand,

2394
02:00:43,827 --> 02:00:45,787
Speaker 24: So that, yeah, it is probably the first one. And

2395
02:00:45,787 --> 02:00:48,987
Speaker 24: then yeah, probably I've played predominantly of my career over

2396
02:00:49,627 --> 02:00:52,307
Speaker 24: at fullback, I think, but in the last couple of

2397
02:00:52,347 --> 02:00:54,467
Speaker 24: seasons I've had a decent amount of game time, like

2398
02:00:54,507 --> 02:00:57,787
Speaker 24: on the wing side, I'd say I probably prefer fullback,

2399
02:00:57,827 --> 02:01:00,707
Speaker 24: but enjoying wing as well, you know, just cut like

2400
02:01:00,747 --> 02:01:03,667
Speaker 24: a little bit different sort of styles but similar.

2401
02:01:03,707 --> 02:01:05,867
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, do you dare think

2402
02:01:05,907 --> 02:01:06,987
Speaker 3: about honors?

2403
02:01:08,867 --> 02:01:09,227
Speaker 14: Ah?

2404
02:01:09,627 --> 02:01:12,867
Speaker 24: Personally, I think it's just worried about making the twenty

2405
02:01:12,907 --> 02:01:15,347
Speaker 24: three for the Blues at the moment. Like like you said,

2406
02:01:15,427 --> 02:01:18,387
Speaker 24: you've got Zen Cody by catle Clark and a few

2407
02:01:18,427 --> 02:01:22,747
Speaker 24: boys waiting in the wings, So it's just about getting

2408
02:01:22,747 --> 02:01:24,867
Speaker 24: some game time before you think about anything else.

2409
02:01:25,267 --> 02:01:28,107
Speaker 3: And tell us about the approach to mourna Pacifika. They

2410
02:01:28,147 --> 02:01:30,667
Speaker 3: can't explode into action and shrigg you with tries, but

2411
02:01:30,707 --> 02:01:33,907
Speaker 3: they can also fold pretty fast. Where do you see

2412
02:01:33,907 --> 02:01:36,027
Speaker 3: their weaknesses? Where do you see their strengths?

2413
02:01:37,667 --> 02:01:40,427
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think the strengths obvious. If you want to

2414
02:01:40,427 --> 02:01:43,027
Speaker 24: make play a physical game for them, get their tails

2415
02:01:43,107 --> 02:01:45,707
Speaker 24: up with winning collisions and sort of making it a

2416
02:01:45,747 --> 02:01:49,227
Speaker 24: scrappy game of rugby, I think that's where they're strongest

2417
02:01:49,267 --> 02:01:52,747
Speaker 24: sort of. I think where they're probably not as strong

2418
02:01:52,747 --> 02:01:54,587
Speaker 24: as probably we can take them in sort of those

2419
02:01:55,027 --> 02:01:57,547
Speaker 24: set piece areas and keep the game sort of structured

2420
02:01:57,627 --> 02:02:01,467
Speaker 24: and not kick away mindlessly kick away possession and give

2421
02:02:01,467 --> 02:02:03,467
Speaker 24: them sort of easy into the game, so I think,

2422
02:02:03,627 --> 02:02:05,987
Speaker 24: and then obviously like this just before our disciplined with

2423
02:02:06,507 --> 02:02:09,507
Speaker 24: can watch, stupid penalties are going to be getting pigged

2424
02:02:09,547 --> 02:02:10,307
Speaker 24: back quite a bit.

2425
02:02:10,867 --> 02:02:14,267
Speaker 3: Well, I really thank you for joining us. It promises

2426
02:02:14,587 --> 02:02:18,907
Speaker 3: so much. Let's hope that you stay high when you're defending,

2427
02:02:18,947 --> 02:02:21,387
Speaker 3: you gather that ball because it's very much the favor

2428
02:02:21,707 --> 02:02:24,547
Speaker 3: of rugby these days, and make it really hard for

2429
02:02:24,667 --> 02:02:26,187
Speaker 3: ZHN Sullivan to get a spot.

2430
02:02:26,267 --> 02:02:30,347
Speaker 24: That will you, Cole uh oh, do do my best

2431
02:02:30,387 --> 02:02:33,507
Speaker 24: on defense and there we'll put on a.

2432
02:02:32,947 --> 02:02:35,587
Speaker 3: Yep get amongst it. Thanks very much for your time.

2433
02:02:35,627 --> 02:02:40,787
Speaker 3: That game gets on away at three forty five, No,

2434
02:02:40,987 --> 02:02:44,427
Speaker 3: three point thirty five, excuse me, Cole Forbes, thanks very

2435
02:02:44,507 --> 02:02:46,267
Speaker 3: much for your tongue. The news talks here B. It's

2436
02:02:46,347 --> 02:02:48,067
Speaker 3: eight away from three.

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02:02:48,867 --> 02:02:51,787
Speaker 1: The big names and the big calls on your home

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Speaker 1: of sports Weekend Sport with Dancy Waldegrave News talks in B.

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Speaker 3: And that winds up the program another day. Another fifty cents.

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02:02:59,947 --> 02:03:03,027
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2441
02:03:03,067 --> 02:03:07,027
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02:03:07,107 --> 02:03:09,347
Speaker 3: your ears, is why we do this. So we thank

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02:03:09,387 --> 02:03:12,467
Speaker 3: you so much and say we are myself and Anna McDonald.

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02:03:12,667 --> 02:03:16,067
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02:03:16,107 --> 02:03:19,467
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02:03:22,307 --> 02:03:24,987
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02:03:25,067 --> 02:03:28,347
Speaker 3: is a track called the Game. This is the celebrator

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02:03:28,387 --> 02:03:32,107
Speaker 3: well football and success from New Zealand teams over the weekend.

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02:03:32,627 --> 02:03:34,267
Speaker 3: Good Day, the.

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02:03:39,027 --> 02:03:47,627
Speaker 6: Dying, exactly that which so many monies forward, It's fought.

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02:03:51,347 --> 02:03:52,987
Speaker 3: An exceptional victory.

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