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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news talks, head billing.

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Speaker 2: And welcome today, Winston and a State of the Nation

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Speaker 2: the Indiacrea. They're all back in the country. The talks

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Speaker 2: are actually under way, so we've got the prospect of

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Speaker 2: the dealer in a couple of months. Richard Lowe and

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Speaker 2: his uncle Grizz the government are asking public servants about

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Speaker 2: their job and what it is they do. Are the

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Speaker 2: lads in the commentary Marks Richard and old Steve Price.

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Speaker 2: They got the good stuff as well, Hoscar. It's rip

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Speaker 2: into its seven past six. I think the calculation will

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Speaker 2: be as thinking about this over the weekend. I think

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Speaker 2: the calculation will be that if we win well this

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Speaker 2: weekend against the Tigers, and I'm anticipating we will, then

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Speaker 2: we can officially figet about Las Vegas. What do you

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Speaker 2: reckon when you look at the last two weeks at home,

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Speaker 2: Vegas seems increasingly inexplicable, don't you think. And within those

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Speaker 2: two victories, two very different sorts of victories. I thought

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Speaker 2: of pantsing against manly heap of points pile of free

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Speaker 2: flying football versus the Roosters, where we battled where we

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Speaker 2: see sword, where the points were harder to come by

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Speaker 2: by the way the conversions messed by Metcalf. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's going on there. That might be a to

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Speaker 2: think about. The Harris de Vita try wasn't under the posts,

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Speaker 2: I know, but it was hardly on the sideline and

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Speaker 2: the kick got butchered. In fact, both kicks got butchered.

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Speaker 2: They barely looked like they were heading anywhere close and

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Speaker 2: in low scoring games two or four points can be

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Speaker 2: the difference, and Luke Metcalf looks good normally, so I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what happened there. Anyway. The last try was

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Speaker 2: probably the pick of them, but Harris Deavita might have

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Speaker 2: something to say about that. His was very individual and

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Speaker 2: showed some style and confidence I thought anyway worth noting

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Speaker 2: as well for trained spot as we don't normally beat

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Speaker 2: the Roosters, and I think we can say we played

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Speaker 2: the Roosters at their own game and found them wanting.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. The more we play like this,

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Speaker 2: like a proper, well drilled, discipline fit, agile professional side,

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Speaker 2: the more weird Vegas looks two from three. It's fine

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Speaker 2: and although round one was a blowout, the comeback has

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Speaker 2: not been scrappy. It's not been lucky, it's not been ropy.

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Speaker 2: It's been a joy to watch high quality football that

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Speaker 2: a Vegas had never happened. You'd be full of confidence

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Speaker 2: that all the expectation and faith placed in the side

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Speaker 2: was very well judged. Indeed, so as I say, let's

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Speaker 2: look or book a good winning this weekend and we

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Speaker 2: can put the whole opener to bed and get on

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Speaker 2: with the season. In totality so far, injuries aside, and

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Speaker 2: that might actually become a bit of a talking point

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Speaker 2: going for but injuries aside, this is good stuff. This

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Speaker 2: is promising. We are competitive and competitive with no shortage

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Speaker 2: of style. Evidence would suggest this is our year.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds, we're.

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Speaker 2: At the table. Where are we on the table? We

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Speaker 2: were in the top eight, We are in the top eight.

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Speaker 2: Are's your busy old world at the moment? If you're

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Speaker 2: following Turkey, what a mess Erduan has popped his main

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Speaker 2: rival into jail. That's got the locals out on the streets.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I believe it is worth reminding once again

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Speaker 3: that the days of going out into the streets taking

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Speaker 3: left wing organizations, extremists and vandals with you and threatening

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Speaker 3: the national will are now behind us.

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Speaker 2: Very good news. The Pope is back at the Vatican.

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Speaker 4: SETTI, thank you, Thank you everyone. I see this lady

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Speaker 4: with yellow flowers holding yellow flowers.

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Speaker 2: Very good, thank you. The paythful. They're relieved.

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Speaker 3: All of us were missing him and today it's really

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Speaker 3: a blessing.

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Speaker 5: Shall be all here to thank the Lord.

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Speaker 3: I think I was a little worried.

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Speaker 6: You know, we never know what can happen when the

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Speaker 6: poop gets sick.

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Speaker 7: Other people are being united.

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Speaker 6: I think that gave us a little.

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Speaker 8: Bit of hope that maybe one day that poop would.

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Speaker 2: Returned back on and indeed he did. And Britain as

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Speaker 2: the chancell that goes about here are gender of cutting

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Speaker 2: and trimming and taking a lot of people are feeling it,

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Speaker 2: but she remains optimistic.

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Speaker 5: If you look at wages at the moment, wages are

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Speaker 5: rising today at twice the rates of inflation. That is

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Speaker 5: very different from what we saw under the previous government.

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Speaker 5: I'm confident that we will see living standards increase during

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Speaker 5: the course of this Parliament.

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Speaker 2: Some people, though, who put out a report says it's

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Speaker 2: pretty much not true.

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Speaker 6: And the danger in the government rejecting our findings is

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Speaker 6: that families are going to feel this anyway. They're going

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Speaker 6: to see their house and cost go up. They're going

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Speaker 6: to see their real earnings go down as inflation outstrips earnings.

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Speaker 2: And last week we told you about Trump's offer to

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Speaker 2: the Afrikaaners that they are welcome to America away from

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Speaker 2: the persecution. So far seventy thousand of lined up. There's Blake.

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Speaker 2: He ain't one of them.

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Speaker 9: I don't think anybody has taken us here. You'll always

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Speaker 9: have fringe in any society at a five or ten

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Speaker 9: percent French that will take it up and we'll carry

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Speaker 9: that flag. But the most people I deal with, most

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Speaker 9: of the aspect of love South African will like to stay.

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Speaker 2: Finally, South Korea and Chasar Sun has visually passed a

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Speaker 2: driving test at the age of sixty nine. Is it's unusual?

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Speaker 2: Slightly unusual? She's a slow learner. It took her nine

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty goers. She did it over fourteen years.

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Speaker 2: It ended up costing her twenty two thousand dollars. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: she set some sort of record, and quite if you're

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Speaker 2: asking whether one out of nine hundred and sixty is

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Speaker 2: an indication of decent driving room, thank just a bit

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Speaker 2: of good luck. Here's the world in ninety Carlie's gone

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Speaker 2: by the way. Just a couple of moments ago, Carney

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Speaker 2: knew Prime Minister of Canada, taking over from Trudeau. The

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Speaker 2: feeling was he was going to pull the trigger early.

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Speaker 2: He has and he is named April the twenty eighth

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Speaker 2: for the Canadian snap election.

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Speaker 2: Check the box in Germany the Upper House over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's that half billion dollars the debt break constitutional they

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Speaker 2: needed two thirds Lower House passed last week, needed to

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Speaker 2: go to the Upper House. They represent the sixteen German states,

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Speaker 2: so they've done so. Core inflation in Japan, ironically against

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Speaker 2: Central Bank look like they're going to hike. They've got

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Speaker 2: eleven Funds Management. Quensmith's Weather, Good Monday morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning mind. This niky thing fascinates me, how much

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Speaker 2: of it's about we're just not buying sneakers, and how

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Speaker 2: much of it's about their image.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a bit of everything. I mean, they've had

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Speaker 8: I guess some problems of their own making and disaster

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Speaker 8: But yeah, the yeah, she has got a bit of

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Speaker 8: a ticking off from Investor's on Friday. That's for sure,

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Speaker 8: It's not resonating. Yeah, they're trying to turn things around

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Speaker 8: and trying to get consumers back, wholesalers back, and yeah

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Speaker 8: retailers anyway, right, So they're cots lying down and yeah,

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Speaker 8: consumers are becoming more price conscious. And then you got

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Speaker 8: the issue of tariffs. Nearly a quarter their supplies are

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Speaker 8: located in China, so they they could take a bit

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Speaker 8: sentiment as well, So your sales in China were down

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Speaker 8: seventeen percent to one point seven billions, So they reckon

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Speaker 8: they can turn things around. That were new shoe lines

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Speaker 8: coming out. They've teamed up with Kimmy the card issues.

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Speaker 8: They've got this intimate brand skim so they're partnered there.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, a bit of a tough way back to

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Speaker 8: former Glorious mics. You look at the shares are down

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Speaker 8: sixty percent since their pandemic peak. And then yeah, speaking

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Speaker 8: to slightly lower. They're also talking about in certaindays on

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Speaker 8: market Shaer Bettle going on for ups also more businesses,

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Speaker 8: more business with Team and Shine, but that's eating into

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Speaker 8: on track. Some two point two billion dollars in cost

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Speaker 8: cuts they're looking at next.

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Speaker 2: Year well, and then we come back home. I thank

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Speaker 2: the good Lord. The warehouse are back in the black.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, some great news for the league shareholders. Mike in

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Speaker 8: the Warehouse groups. So yeah, they've been doing it tough

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Speaker 8: a strategic rethink of themselves and they seld obviously torpedo

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Speaker 8: seven for it, but they're given some idea to I

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Speaker 8: suppose things could be turning around. You look at their

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Speaker 8: one point six percent, one point six billion, but the

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Speaker 8: bottom line. Might you have to tell result was a

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Speaker 8: net profit of eleven point eight million. That's from a

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Speaker 8: loss of twenty three point seven last year. So if

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Speaker 8: fifteen percent. Just looking at the businesses quickly read shears

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Speaker 8: just saw a modest half percent decline in sales and

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Speaker 8: no leaving. That was really interesting. I thought sales are

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Speaker 8: but less than the way browsers are more purposeful shoppings.

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Speaker 8: That's helping them out. Over all, the bound sheets a

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Speaker 8: lottiter than it was. So they've got a net cash

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Speaker 8: year ago. They're still they're going to make a loss

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Speaker 8: the in the December half. But interesting thing is, can

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Speaker 8: well can they keep shoppers in without more disaccounting. I

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Speaker 8: suppose they are going to get some asistance from the economy,

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Speaker 8: is borrors get more spring this step. But yeah, she

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Speaker 8: is up two percent on Friday, but down twenty percent

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Speaker 8: the year and eighty percent insince the pandemic peak.

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Speaker 2: Well, as I mentioned this Friday, it came out Friday.

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Speaker 2: This is this reporting to the supermarkets in Australia. What

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Speaker 2: came with that?

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Speaker 8: I think it was actually pretty benign when you look

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Speaker 8: was the ACE Triple Seed's report was four hundred and

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Speaker 8: forty one pages long, But basically the key point was

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Speaker 8: there was no evidence or clear evidence of price gouge.

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Speaker 8: And obviously this has been a political football and obviously

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Speaker 8: probably the key point. They've made recommendations that what the

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Speaker 10: No, I'm just looking to state the plain facts that

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Speaker 10: My point yesterday was to tell of mainstream media you

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Speaker 10: Oh well, look, so many people are university coffee by

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Speaker 10: We can't afford to go forward with stupid work signaling policies,

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Speaker 2: When you say the Paris Accord, would you pull out

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Speaker 10: Now I'm saving these young people right here, right now,

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Speaker 11: Why do you do?

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Speaker 10: Look, mister Hevgins displayed his awful incompetence when he was

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Speaker 10: But I don't know why everybody keeps asking this question

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Speaker 10: because I stand for a particle in New Zealand first.

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Speaker 10: But other parties policies oars their business, but not ours.

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Speaker 2: Rubio, how well informed was he of what's happening in

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Speaker 2: this part of the world.

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Speaker 10: It was essentially well informed, and so was his team,

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Speaker 10: and so was the the security and National security advisor

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Speaker 10: for Donald Trump, Walsh mess. There were seriously well advised

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Speaker 10: about those issues that you've raised, and unusually so, because

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Speaker 10: you know, I've been there in pastimes where I found

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Speaker 10: that people have not been as well prepared as they were.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to, you appreciate it. Winston Peaus, New

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Speaker 2: Zealand First Leader, eighteen two.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 12: It be.

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Speaker 2: Interesting insight into the trust or lack of and media.

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Speaker 2: It's an Edelman survey published in Australia last week. But

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Speaker 2: as far as we're concerned, trust in the media sits

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Speaker 2: at thirty five percent. Is that good? No, it's not

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Speaker 2: because the global average is fifty two. But I'll work

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Speaker 2: you through that later on six forty five.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ensit Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Business Rich Donald.

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Speaker 2: Good Money, morning to you. Pensions and Lucknik. Where are

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Speaker 2: we at?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the system of old age pensions here is very

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Speaker 13: much in the spotlight right now. This is money that

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Speaker 13: is taken from everyone's wages and put into a separate

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Speaker 13: fund to pay social security checks as they call them.

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Speaker 13: It was put into effect by Roosevelt in the nineteen thirties,

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Speaker 13: so been around for a long long while. Sort of

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Speaker 13: a fundamental aspect of US governance. The role of the

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Speaker 13: administration was to bank the money and send out pension payments. Sadly,

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Speaker 13: governments from both parties took some of the money and

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Speaker 13: spent it on other things. So the fund has some issues.

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Speaker 13: Now into Elon Musk, who calls the system a Ponzi scheme,

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Speaker 13: which it certainly is not. It's tax byer money, nothing

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Speaker 13: to do with Musk and whatever he might want to

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Speaker 13: spend it on. And now Trump's Commas secretary how it?

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Speaker 13: Lutnik says, what does it matter if all the folks

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Speaker 13: don't get their chicks on time?

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Speaker 4: Let's say Social Security didn't send out their checks.

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Speaker 12: This month.

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Speaker 2: My mother in law.

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Speaker 12: Who's ninety four, she wouldn't call and com play.

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Speaker 2: She just wouldn't.

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Speaker 12: She thinks something got messed up and she'll get it

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Speaker 12: next one h.

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Speaker 1: A fraudster always makes the loudest noise, screaming, yelling and complaint.

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Speaker 14: What the hell is wrong with this guy and the

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Speaker 14: idiot interviewer.

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Speaker 13: You don't get a promise pension payment, well, you know,

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Speaker 13: get some cash from your X Wall Street to invest

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Speaker 13: a son. Because anyone who complains would be a criminal, right,

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Speaker 13: Former Commissioner of Social Security, Martin o'melli says this is

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Speaker 13: despicable because she says.

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Speaker 15: Forty percent of all seniors living alone depend entirely upon

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Speaker 15: Social Security.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we're talking about forty million people. Emeli, a Democrat, says.

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Speaker 15: People should be rightly outraged. They have worked their whole

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Speaker 15: lives for these benefits. They have worked over generations to

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Speaker 15: make sure that they could be there for their own

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Speaker 15: kids and grandkids. And what's going on right now at

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Speaker 15: Social Security is absolutely appalled.

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Speaker 13: Well, what's going on? Here's the dealon masks. Minions have

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Speaker 13: announced plans to fire thousands of people who work at

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Speaker 13: Social Security and also to close field offices where elderly

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Speaker 13: people might have been taking their concerns, so you know,

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Speaker 13: they might have traveled a bit further, lot further.

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Speaker 2: Who knows all this?

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Speaker 13: While Trump's acting head of Social Security threatened the other

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Speaker 13: day to shut down the entire Social Security Administration in

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Speaker 13: a couple of days on set Ah didn't mean it, folks,

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Speaker 13: because after all, if you don't get a pension check, Mike,

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Speaker 13: what's the worry?

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Speaker 2: What's it matter? Where are we at with the Dems?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, better late than ever. The top Democrat in the Senate,

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Speaker 13: Chuch Humor is trying to hit back against complaints within

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Speaker 13: his own party, mostly that Democrats are weak in responding

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Speaker 13: to the Trump administration that have been calls for human

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Speaker 13: to quit. He says today not quitting. He is also

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Speaker 13: responding belatedly to those who slammed him for signing on

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Speaker 13: to that temporary debt increase which prevented the government shutdown

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Speaker 13: the other day. A number of them said they should

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Speaker 13: not have cooperated with Republicans in keeping the government open

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Speaker 13: with a Continuing Resolution CR in which the Dems had

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Speaker 13: no input, but their votes were needed to get it

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Speaker 13: pass well. Schumer now is explaining his worries a bit more,

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Speaker 13: that Trump and Musk would have taken charge completely and

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Speaker 13: could have kept the government closed for months.

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Speaker 16: Who determines how long the shutdown would last. Only those

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Speaker 16: evil people at the top of the executive branch in

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Speaker 16: the Trump administration, And one Senator Republican told a Democratic

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Speaker 16: senator colleague of mine, and this guy is close, This

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Speaker 16: Republican senator is close to the DOJE mask people. They

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Speaker 16: would keep the government shut down for six months, nine

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Speaker 16: months a year, till everyone was furloughed.

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Speaker 2: So that's his take.

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Speaker 13: Meantime, left wing lives Senator Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Kazio

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Speaker 13: Cootis have been out on the campaign trail doing rallies

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Speaker 13: in Republican red states and drawing just big numbers. Bernie

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Speaker 13: Sanders just had some thirty thousand people attending an event

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Speaker 13: in Denver, is more than he ever drew when he

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Speaker 13: was actually running for president.

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Speaker 2: Well, all right, might catch up Wednesday, Richard Arnold state, So,

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Speaker 2: I just before we leave that part of the world,

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Speaker 2: I mentioned the federal judge temporary restraining order barring Doge

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Speaker 2: from getting access to personally identifiable information at the Social

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Speaker 2: Security Administration. Then we got associated with Doge. Elon Tesler

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Speaker 2: company called Edmunds have put out interesting information over the

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Speaker 2: weekend in March. They saw the highest ever they deal

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Speaker 2: with the car industry in America, the highest ever share

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Speaker 2: of people trading in their tesla's. People can't trade in

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Speaker 2: tesla's fast enough. Also over the weekend, unfortunately, the cyber

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Speaker 2: truck has been recalled. Forty six thousand cyber trucks have

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Speaker 2: been recalled, which is pretty much every cyber truck that's

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Speaker 2: ever been made has been recalled because those bits are

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Speaker 2: falling off. I did read also over the weekend. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: there's a cyber truck somewhere in the country at the

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Speaker 2: moment doing the rounds in the publicity round so I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's one of those cyber trucks.

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Speaker 17: It's going to be so anyway, they seems to be recalled.

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Speaker 17: So often are they recalling it from the places that

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Speaker 17: they've recalled them time?

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Speaker 2: No idea. I know whether you also have to pick

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Speaker 2: up the bits that fell off to send them back either.

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Speaker 2: It gets tricky, doesn't it. Nine minutes away from seven

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Speaker 2: the make.

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Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast with a Veda Retirement Communities news togs had

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Speaker 1: been if.

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Speaker 2: Trust in the media not particularly high. This is the

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Speaker 2: trust barometer. Thirty five percent of people think they've got

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Speaker 2: trust in the New Zealand media are down by once.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't really moved, but the global averages fifty two.

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Speaker 2: What you do and what does tend to skew the

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Speaker 2: global averages. You get repressed countries where there's a great

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Speaker 2: deal of government control. In other words, the press isn't free,

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Speaker 2: and those people tend to believe in the media more

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Speaker 2: so than in more free, open societies like New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: It's down from forty one in twenty twenty two. Competence

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Speaker 2: and ethics in the New Zealand media well underwater. Negative

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Speaker 2: ratings only matched by government agencies, which is disturbing. Social

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Speaker 2: media is down eight points to twenty percent, and I

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Speaker 2: have no idea way we trust social media at all.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven percent of those believe reporters and journalists lie.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? Sixty seven percent words, the vast majority

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Speaker 2: of people believe reporters and journalists lie or purposely mislead.

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Speaker 2: For government leaders, it's fifty eight. For business leaders, it's

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Speaker 2: fifty nine. In the media it is sixty seven. Pretty roping,

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Speaker 2: And I can see how people come to that conclusion.

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Speaker 2: They don't lie. Journalists do not lie, certainly the ones

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Speaker 2: I know do not lie. But do they mislead? And

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Speaker 2: that is the vexed and interesting debate five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven, all the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now we've got a link now between the Trump tariffs

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Speaker 2: and the real estate market. So this comes from related

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Speaker 2: group Varsit guy called John Paul Perez. They're a real

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Speaker 2: estate development company that operates in seven US states and

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Speaker 2: around the world. Indeed, he says, before the tariffs have

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Speaker 2: even come in, the subcontractors are already putting up their

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Speaker 2: prices by as much as twenty percent. This is of

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Speaker 2: the old inflation story all over again. It's reading the

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Speaker 2: report that was and Economics over the weekend in America

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Speaker 2: saying there is just no dispute that tariffs are inflation.

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Speaker 2: You can't escape the simple truth that prices go up.

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Speaker 2: People pass on the costs. In this case, they're passing

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Speaker 2: on the cost before anything's actually happened. It's all based

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Speaker 2: on the anticipation of higher costs. Of course, could likely

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Speaker 2: go even higher when the tariffs actually start in the

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Speaker 2: early part of April. Just for the construction of materials alone.

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Speaker 2: The National Association of home Builders it says it could

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Speaker 2: add more than thirty thousand dollars to each build for

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Speaker 2: a standard home. The luxury into the market remains unchanged,

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Speaker 2: which is interesting. It's the market where the houses are

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Speaker 2: between one and three million that's showing the most volatility.

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Speaker 2: So that's the American housing market. I got to ask

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Speaker 2: somebody this week. I don't know who we're going to

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Speaker 2: get on, but somebody's This beef thing's got me fascinated

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Speaker 2: because there's a big station in Australia over the beef,

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Speaker 2: and I mentioned it briefly last week. So the Americans

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Speaker 2: sell a tremendous amount of beef to the Australian sell

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of beef to the Americans, as indeed

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Speaker 2: de we. But the Americans are not happy. They finally

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Speaker 2: got it on their radar and they're banging down the

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Speaker 2: door of the White House to say that the balance

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Speaker 2: is not there and the Australians do not import any

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Speaker 2: American beef. Now I don't know whether we import in

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Speaker 2: the American beef either, So if they've got the Australians

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Speaker 2: and their sites, they might well have us in their sites.

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Speaker 2: And given how well we're doing with America at the moment,

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Speaker 2: and it's not just in beef, it's and things like wine,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if we're just not in for a spot

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Speaker 2: of bother there. But we'll have a look at this

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Speaker 2: throughout the week as as the opportunity presents itself. Now,

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Speaker 2: all the people in India, you'll be thrilled to They

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Speaker 2: actually got back to the country, so that's good. Means

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Speaker 2: the planes work, So that's the first encouraging news. Second

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Speaker 2: thing is what happens next this free trade? What happens

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Speaker 2: when's this happening? Are we going to do it in

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Speaker 2: thirty days, sixty days and ninety days? And what's it

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Speaker 2: going to mean to the country. Gris Wiley passed away

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. It's been a faint old story to

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Speaker 2: tell you about Gris Wiley when I last met him,

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Speaker 2: meet him in Timaru? What will we doing in Timaru?

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Speaker 2: I hear you ask, well, a happy answer later and

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Speaker 2: as Judith Collins our version of dog, we'll have a

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Speaker 2: look at the public service as well. Meantime news is next?

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Speaker 2: Your news still.

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Speaker 1: This opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and use

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Speaker 1: talks dead being.

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Speaker 2: Those who spent seven past seven, by the way, those

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Speaker 2: who spent the past week in India with our trade

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Speaker 2: delegation of back. The headline was the FTA. Of course

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Speaker 2: talks are underway. There was some hope we can stitch

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Speaker 2: it up in a couple of months. Apparently New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Trade and Enterprise CEO Petter Cristmas with US Peter Morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning mich How much of what unfolded last week

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Speaker 2: was predetermined before we even left the country.

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Speaker 18: Well, I know that mister McClay had been worsening on

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Speaker 18: the through trade agreement for quite some period before then,

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Speaker 18: so but we didn't really know exactly what was going

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Speaker 18: to happen until we arrived.

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Speaker 2: How far down the track are we in talks?

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Speaker 18: I look, anything about the free trade agreement I really

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Speaker 18: need to leave to Minister maclay and the Foreign Ministry

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Speaker 18: because as you can understand, it's very sensitive. I won't

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Speaker 18: be negotiating in public. So I'll say away from that.

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Speaker 2: One, what's your sense of the goodwill level? Is their

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Speaker 2: genuine good will on both sides to make this thing

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Speaker 2: work handstick?

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Speaker 19: I think?

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Speaker 18: So there was without doubt considerable warmth, an engagement between

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Speaker 18: the Prime Minister and Prime Minister Modi that was very evident,

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Speaker 18: and also throughout the business Delegation and the Community Delegation

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Speaker 18: was one hundred and twenty of us in the market.

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Speaker 18: There was lots and lots of engagement and interaction. We

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Speaker 18: had thirty three different deliverables that we signed up, which

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Speaker 18: was just a whole pednacles of access and partnerships all

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Speaker 18: over the country. So yeah, it seemed pretty genuine to us.

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Speaker 2: The sadness for me has been we should have been

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Speaker 2: there ages agoh, I mean this has been there is

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Speaker 2: sitting duck ready to do some business, aren't they.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think you know, it's just really the convergence

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Speaker 18: for both countries. I mean, India is really just starting

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Speaker 18: to open up. It's the biggest latent demand pool in

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Speaker 18: the world. You've got a billion new assumers coming on.

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Speaker 18: But it's quite recent for them to sort of open

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Speaker 18: their open themselves up.

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Speaker 12: I mean, and they're not.

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Speaker 18: Going to open themselves up to any country to sell it,

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Speaker 18: and they're really more looking for countries who want to

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Speaker 18: partner with them. So it's not really a cell too,

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Speaker 18: it's a partner with and so these things take a

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Speaker 18: long time to curate. This just doesn't happen overnight.

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Speaker 2: Those this whole sixty days, ninety days whatever. Does anyone

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Speaker 2: actually have a clue. We're just making that up as

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Speaker 2: we go along.

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Speaker 18: Again, I'll leave that Minister maclay and what he would

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Speaker 18: like to say publicly about that.

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Speaker 2: I read a couple of reports from reporters from behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes. It seemed a draining old exercise. It was

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Speaker 2: full on, is that fair?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it was a huge week. Arrived at Monday mornings.

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Speaker 18: Sort of my head spinning a bit, huge week, but

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Speaker 18: you know, energetic and yeah, it's great. It was great

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Speaker 18: to be with a whole lot of people from New

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Speaker 18: Zealand and going to a country together to take on

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Speaker 18: a country for the of New Zealand. They are very strong,

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Speaker 18: positive feeling about the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Peter appreciated it. Peter Crisp, who's the CEO

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand Trade and Enterprise, Tim and it's past seven,

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Speaker 2: gonna be robed. Look up there. Sort of the behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes quite interesting insight. Many of the journalists who went,

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Speaker 2: who wrote their reports complained a lot about how they

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Speaker 2: couldn't get access to anything because they had their phones

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Speaker 2: taken off them and their record has taken off them,

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Speaker 2: and their notepad's taken off them, and their bags taken

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Speaker 2: off them and everything taken off them. And that's how

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Speaker 2: the media internationally works. You don't just get to rock

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Speaker 2: up to people like Mody and ask them about you know,

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Speaker 2: the price of butter, it doesn't work that way. You

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Speaker 2: sit in the holding room and you don't go anywhere,

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Speaker 2: and that's journalism one oh one around most international markets,

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Speaker 2: which just reminds you how extraordinarily unusual slash lucky we

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Speaker 2: might be in having the access to our politicians. But

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Speaker 2: the background's probably worth having a look at. So eleven

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven Auckland. Along with many other problems, it

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Speaker 2: turns out this morning has as you're run, parking finds

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Speaker 2: that aren't being paid. Of all the tickets issued since

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, only sixty eight percent of them have

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Speaker 2: actually been paid. The New Zealand Parking Association chair Mike

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Speaker 2: Kelly as well as Mike Morning, I'm very well, indeed,

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Speaker 2: thank you. That's my learnings for that. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: we had a parking association. How long has that been around.

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Speaker 11: I've been around for about thirty years now, so yeah,

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Speaker 11: supporting all of the councils throughout the country, private parking

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Speaker 11: operators and various equipment and system suppliers.

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Speaker 2: The problem, well, so if you can talk from a

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Speaker 2: national point of view, so I don't bore the rest

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Speaker 2: of the nation whitlass with yet another Auckland story the

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Speaker 2: payment of tickets. Is that an issue anywhere outside of

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Speaker 2: Auckland or is it an urban thing or what?

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Speaker 11: No, it's across the country. Most councils I think that

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Speaker 11: you talk to will have will had the same concerns

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Speaker 11: that we have a limited window to have our tickets paid,

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Speaker 11: either directly to the council or through using parties like Baycorp.

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Speaker 11: And then there's a limitation on how long before we

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Speaker 11: can send them to the Ministry of Justice, which is

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Speaker 11: the usually x escalation process.

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Speaker 2: Is there a site called have a psychology at play here?

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Speaker 2: I don't take it seriously, therefore I don't pay it,

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Speaker 2: And that's the bit that needs to change.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think so. There are lots of people out

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Speaker 11: there that have hundreds of tickets, that will get tickets

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Speaker 11: every day for repetitive offenses and not be too bothered

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Speaker 11: about that at all, and they just go to the

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Speaker 11: Ministry of Justice and get added onto their.

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Speaker 12: If you like.

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Speaker 2: And what happens to me, nothing?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it can go to go. I mean literally,

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Speaker 2: nothing's going to happen to me, is it?

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Speaker 11: That's probably more a question for the Ministry of Justice,

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Speaker 11: because once it's been sent to them. It's out of

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Speaker 11: the road patrolling authority's hands. So yeah, it's you know,

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Speaker 11: it is up to them to try and enforce that

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Speaker 11: on our behalf. And it's not a cheap process to

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Speaker 11: engage them as a defllection option, So they.

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Speaker 2: Need to chase it up harder. And if they chase

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Speaker 2: it up harder, they might get to action. The problem

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Speaker 2: you've got is the antagonism, haven't you, Because I'll get

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Speaker 2: these tickets from bus lanes and cycle lanes and I

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Speaker 2: hate them, and i hate the people who did them

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Speaker 2: to me, and I'm angry, and so therefore I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to pay them.

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Speaker 11: There's a piece of that too, and I mean some

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Speaker 11: of the things that we have to do also is

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Speaker 11: to move the legislation forward and be a bit more current.

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Speaker 11: You know, for example, we're required by law to either

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Speaker 11: place a parking ticket on a windshield or send it

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Speaker 11: in the post. As fablish applies to councils rather than

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Speaker 11: the private operators. Because in the land, in the registration

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Speaker 11: system for your vehicle, there is no email, there is

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Speaker 11: no verification of the data, and nobody actually verifies your

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Speaker 11: address or verifies that if I sell my vehicle to you.

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Speaker 11: You know, if you don't actually sign the piece of

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Speaker 11: paper say I've purchased that vehicle, it sits at limbo.

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Speaker 11: And of course we can't find out who actually is

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Speaker 11: responsible for that.

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Speaker 2: Ticket exactly all right, Mike good On, So I appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. Mike Kelly, who's the New Zealand Parking

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Speaker 2: Association chair. Thirteen minutes past seven. On the beef, we

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Speaker 2: export one point three to seven billion or beef to them,

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Speaker 2: second biggest export market behind China. We import next to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Now I don't know whether we import next to nothing.

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Speaker 2: We import thirty one million, thirteen point seven percent of

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Speaker 2: the stuff we import. I don't know if we import

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Speaker 2: next to nothing because we make our own and therefore

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Speaker 2: we don't need theirs, or we're like the Australians and

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Speaker 2: we've got rules and regulations around the import where but

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Speaker 2: effie about it. And if that's the case, no matter

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Speaker 2: what's the case, whether the Americans are going to look

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Speaker 2: at us and go there are the numbers, there's an imbalance,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to terrify our way out of that trouble.

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Speaker 2: So that's something to watch. Fourteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Like asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: Judith Collins as the Public Service Minister. They sent out

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Speaker 2: this weird sort of questionnaire asking public servants to go,

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Speaker 2: so what do you think of your job?

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Speaker 11: What do you do?

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Speaker 12: All that?

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Speaker 2: It's very doge anyway, they're going to publish those results

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Speaker 2: and presumably do something about it, So we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that shortly meantime. At seventeen past seven, Alex Wiley, as

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Speaker 2: I'm well aware, one of rugby's greats passed away yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He was eighty, had a ninety one percent success rates

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Speaker 2: as an All Blacks coach, played eleven tests for the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks in the early seventies. Former All Black and

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Speaker 2: his nephew, Richard Lowe, is what this Richard, very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 20: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I guess you're on that tricky business of sort of

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Speaker 2: private grief as a family having to sort of share

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Speaker 2: it with the nation, aren't you.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I suppose you are the family close family are

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Speaker 20: I think anyone tied up with Rugby will be remembering

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Speaker 20: him for what he did.

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Speaker 2: He was a time a well ioway saw him anyway

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Speaker 2: as a time and a place sort of bloke, hugely influential,

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Speaker 2: but in that old fashioned New Zealand not a lot

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Speaker 2: of words kind of with it way. Yeah.

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Speaker 20: I probably remember him first of all as an uncle

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Speaker 20: that played for the All Blacks. But then it was

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Speaker 20: quite quite interesting. I departed school at at fairly early

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Speaker 20: age and ended up by playing Gemark, where he was

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Speaker 20: captain number eight and along with him the Graham Higginsons

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Speaker 20: and the Andy Jeffords, another couple of All Blacks. And

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Speaker 20: you know, you grow up from being a schoolboy to

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Speaker 20: a young man very quickly under that sort of leadership.

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Speaker 2: Was he likable beyond the gruffness? Yeah?

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Speaker 20: I think over the years he's mallowed, which a lot

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Speaker 20: will say. But you know, I heard Don Hayes say

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Speaker 20: about him last night. You know, yeah, he came across

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Speaker 20: his gruff and hard and everything and which he was

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Speaker 20: in his playing days and probably coaching days two. But

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Speaker 20: as Don said, he was a big, softy under thing.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon he transcends the ere. I always think

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Speaker 2: about people, I mean, twenty five year olds listening to

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Speaker 2: this game, Griz who do you think he's bigger than

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Speaker 2: the era in which he was around?

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Speaker 20: Specifically, Yeah, probably probably is in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 8: He he.

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Speaker 20: Coached and played with a hell of a lot of

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Speaker 20: people and left his mark. And I would suggest, you

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Speaker 20: know that sort of thing, we'll go down in history.

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Speaker 20: And I know up at the Glenmark Club he's held

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Speaker 20: right up up higher on the pedestal, so you know

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Speaker 20: his history will continue for many many decades to come.

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Speaker 2: Good good insight. Richard appreciated Richard Low, Who's nephew. And

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Speaker 2: I'll tell the story later. But I played pool with

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Speaker 2: them once in Timaru and somebody just came up to me.

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Speaker 2: I happened to be in Timaru and they said, do

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Speaker 2: you want to play a game of pool with Gris Wiley?

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Speaker 2: Which is not what you expect because I wasn't in Timrou.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like a professional circuit that we were traveling

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Speaker 2: on the Paul tournament circuit. I was in Timaru for

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Speaker 2: other reasons. They said do you want to play Gris Wiley?

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Speaker 2: And Paul I said why not? But then came the story. Anyway, seven.

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895
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Speaker 2: to tell you contact a as an energy as in

896
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: the power company wanted to build a wind farm in Southland.

897
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: They've been turned down. Are they not the first? They

898
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Speaker 2: will not be the last. Close to three hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollars and hundreds of jobs are now not going to happen. Also,

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901
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: the next twenty five years will not be happening either.

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00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: So far we've built three gigawatts. We're entering what's actually

903
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Speaker 2: less than three. We're entering yet another winter where it's

904
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: touch and go on power supply. The minister's been busy

905
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: whacking his finger at the gent tailor's. The Climate campaign

906
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: has bark on about the role of renewables. We continue

907
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Speaker 2: to import record amounts of coal to cover the gap.

908
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: We've cut a deal to keep Huntly going ever longer.

909
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: Because the renewable dream is getting further and further away.

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00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: Renewables may or may not be the answer to our

911
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: problem at all. The simple truth about water, sun and

912
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: wind is there beyond our control. Coal and nuclear isn't.

913
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: But we seem to insist renewables are what we want

914
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: to do, and yet we don't do it. That is

915
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: nimbiism as far as I can work out's going to

916
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: kill us. We seem happy to be shocked every year

917
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: at the coal pile. We seem to be happy to

918
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: be unhappy at the idea we don't have enough power

919
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: to get us through winter. The industry who tells us

920
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: they're investing in wind and solar, but are they? How

921
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: many get turned down versus how many actually get the

922
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: go ahead? Are we actually progressing or taking a step

923
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: forward and then a step back? Here's your ultimate irony.

924
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: There's been a lot said about this government's fast track law.

925
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: Right their fast track law is actually just an extension

926
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Speaker 2: or an amendment of the old fast track law which

927
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: Labour produced during COVID. Under that fast track law, this

928
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: particular wind project that I talk of got turned down.

929
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Speaker 2: So is a no fast track or no track? Hey question,

930
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Speaker 2: if you can't get a wind farm through under fast track,

931
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Speaker 2: are we actually into solving issues or not Faski. My

932
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: Australian lady was on zeb She said, the US did

933
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Speaker 2: stuff to their beef and that's why, yeah, I know,

934
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Speaker 2: I know all that they stick stuff in there, and

935
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Speaker 2: that's why the Australians object to bringing beef in the

936
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: guards full of this and that and the next thing.

937
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: But that's not gonna matter to do you think Lutnik.

938
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Speaker 2: You think that Lutnik's gonna deal with the nuance of that.

939
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Speaker 2: I don't think so, Mike. Journalists are no longer perceived

940
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Speaker 2: as objective. You went off on this. I gave you

941
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Speaker 2: that survey, the Edelman survey before seven o'clock. Journalists are

942
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: no longer perceived as objective. Reporting has been corrupted by

943
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: the perspective of the organization and the confronting opinions of

944
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: the reporter. It's one hundred percent true. And I've watched

945
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Speaker 2: it happen in my forty four years in this industry.

946
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: I've watched the whole thing slowly but surely, sadly implode.

947
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: COVID was the final straw, as far as I can

948
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Speaker 2: work out, And as I've said on this program about

949
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: a million times, the worst of it is not a

950
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: person like me. You know who I am, You know

951
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: what I think, you know what I'm about, straight up

952
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: and down. Like me, don't like me, whatever the case.

953
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: The worst of it is the person who pretends to

954
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 2: be neutral but isn't. And that's where it's all gone

955
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: horribly wrong. Mike. The problem with our media is that

956
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: they believe for anyone to read their content, they have

957
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: to be a hero, has to have a hero and

958
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: a villain, and in doing so they shape and exclude facts,

959
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: which means they skew their view. It's not a bad point, Mike.

960
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: Some media lie by omission when they push an agenda

961
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: or a narrative lacking balance or objectivity. I suppose the

962
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: counter to that is that you can work that out

963
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: for yourself. Mikey is serious. After COVID and all the

964
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: false information the Labor government feeding us through the media,

965
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: I will never trust them again. There's a lot of that.

966
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: Judith Collins with her questionnaire for the public service and

967
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: where I mean, how many reports of the public service

968
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Speaker 2: do we need? We got the Deloitte one into health

969
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: the other day, we've got the Brian Roche one that

970
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: says they're not up to it and they're not fit

971
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: for purpose. Now Judith's sending out her little pamphlet to

972
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Speaker 2: ask some more questions as well. How many questions? How

973
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: about just a bit of doge Judith Collins after the

974
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: news which is next here a News Talks.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the mic

976
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential,

977
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks head been Mike.

978
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: Did you catch the interview with Alex Elbon about Redbull's

979
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: front end, the stiffness settings that Max likes and how

980
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: the impact on the other driver? Yes? I did, and

981
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: that's a long standing issue and we haven't covered poor

982
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: old Liam, who's in the fight of his life at

983
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: the moment, but we will shortly twenty three minutes away

984
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: from eight before we do that. Thanks not a look

985
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: at the public service with the government asking whether the

986
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Speaker 2: work provides value for the tax payer. We've got thousands

987
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: of workers having been required to identify areas for further

988
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: cost cutting across every government agency. The Internal Census also

989
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: looked at the use of TERRAO and the work from

990
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: home arrangements. The results are expected later on this year.

991
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: The Public Service Minister Judith Collins isn't chargeable of this

992
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: and she's with us.

993
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 7: Good morning, oh and good morning to you mate.

994
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: Now what have we got going on here? Is this

995
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: a phishing expedition? Do you have a path you already

996
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: want to follow? What are we doing?

997
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 12: Well?

998
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 7: The Public Service Commission has previously done a survey of

999
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 7: public servants and this is one which is very focused on,

1000
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 7: first off, a few things, one how to save tax

1001
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 7: payer money? Are there opportunities that the public service servants

1002
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 7: can actually see themselves? But it's also around saying things

1003
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 7: like sexual and harassment and bullying are not acceptable the workplace,

1004
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 7: so let us know if your concerns are being met.

1005
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 7: So there's a two way. But there's other things too.

1006
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 7: It's quite a wide ranging census.

1007
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: I've been through these things before. When you say are

1008
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: there savings to be made, they come back and say,

1009
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: we'll have different buns at morning tea and we'll save

1010
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: on paper clips. It's a waste of time.

1011
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know that it is actually the public

1012
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 7: service when when we took over in government just over

1013
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 7: a year ago had grown in six years by thirty

1014
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 7: four percent. As well as consultant spending is going right

1015
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 7: through the roof. So no, I don't think so. I

1016
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 7: think what there are there will be some people who

1017
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 7: think this is a bit of a joke. But the

1018
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 7: words that are used in this sense is that all

1019
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 7: the way through it are taxpayers money. That's something that

1020
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 7: needs to be rammed home every single day that there

1021
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 7: is no money from government. It's taxpayers money, either taxpayers

1022
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 7: now or taxpayers in the future. So that's a message

1023
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 7: that's very clearly all the way through the sense.

1024
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: Why don't you just doge them, get in their bulldoze

1025
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: the place, clean it up.

1026
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 7: I don't think we've got quite the same situation as

1027
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 7: the federal government in the US. And the other thing too,

1028
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 7: is that we're going to have a We've asked for

1029
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 7: savings on consultants outside consultants. We're looking for four hundred

1030
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 7: million dollars I think Wednesday this week the results were out.

1031
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 7: I'm expecting that to be considerably more than that. So

1032
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 7: we are looking for the savings and a lot of

1033
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 7: the public servants they want to be efficient, they want

1034
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 7: to be effective, and they want to be proud of

1035
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 7: their work.

1036
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: Well I'm not sure about that, because I've read the

1037
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: Roche report and I've read the Deloittees report into the Health.

1038
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: The Roche report said the public service is not fit

1039
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: for purpose, So don't you have the ammunition you need.

1040
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 7: Well, we've got the Roach in charge of it now,

1041
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 7: so we are sorting it and you're going to find

1042
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 7: that there are going to be big changes. So Brian

1043
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 7: wrote to the Commission of Public Service. He's been pretty clear.

1044
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 7: There are some things he thinks we should get rid

1045
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 7: of altogether. There are other things that he thinks to

1046
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 7: be done more effectively. We are absolutely working on that.

1047
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 7: At the same time, we have to keep things moving

1048
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 7: and we are and you know, if people want a

1049
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 7: doze and all that, we have to work within the law.

1050
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 7: And the other thing is we've got changes the Public

1051
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 7: Service Act which are coming up because under Chris Hipkins

1052
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 7: when he was in government, what they did is they

1053
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 7: put all this rubbish into the key concerns for chief

1054
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 7: executives the public service of bringing everything back to basics.

1055
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 7: Do the job, do it well, do it efficiently, and

1056
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 7: remember someone else's pain and by the way, that someone

1057
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 7: else's youth.

1058
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Speaker 2: When you talk about the Deloitte's report into Health New

1059
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: Zealand and their problems and I watch both year over

1060
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: the weekend talking about Health New Zealand being a problem

1061
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: around the freedom of information, is that individual units that

1062
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: are more problematic than others.

1063
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 7: Well, health is not my portfolio. I'm happy to give

1064
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 7: you my view that when you take was it twenty

1065
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 7: eight mostly dysfunctional organizations put them together. Nobody loses their jobs.

1066
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 7: Everyone keeps a job and gets a new title of manager.

1067
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 7: You're going to get a problem. And that's what they did.

1068
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 6: Labor did.

1069
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 7: So it is being sorted, but it is going to

1070
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 7: take some time. But you know, it's like merging dysfunctional

1071
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 7: agencies never brings about instantly. A better functioning agency just

1072
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 7: doesn't work.

1073
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: No, it does not. I wish you were were that.

1074
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: Judith Collins, Public Services Minister, eighteen minutes away from eight

1075
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Speaker 2: task gets why doesn't the sports team give Liam credit

1076
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: or even mentioned for passing or finishing seven places from

1077
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: starting up from twenty Well he didn't, he didn't, And

1078
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: then that I need to explain it in just a

1079
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: couple of moments if you missed the story, because the

1080
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: story is becoming more complex and detailed and problematic for

1081
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 2: Liam just quickly. This is where the government gets themselves

1082
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: into trouble and I'll be talking to the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: about it tomorrow. Things they want to do versus things

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00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: that are actually happening. So the Construction minister guy called

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Speaker 2: Chris Pink, he's criticizing counsels now for what he's calling

1086
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: stopping the clock. This is on building consent applications. Right,

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00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the applications are paused so authorities can

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Speaker 2: request further information. Now, the whole government idea was to

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00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: speed everything up. That's why they're reforming the RMA, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to make life easier to build a house

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Speaker 2: and you can have more house for less rules and

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Speaker 2: so on. Anyway, there's one hundred and forty six hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty five applications processed. Medium processing time of nine days.

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00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: So far, so good. Statutory obligation says you've got a

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Speaker 2: process by twenty days after receiving the application, though the

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Speaker 2: authority can make a request for further information an rfine. Now,

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00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: when you do that, it stops the clock. And stops

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Speaker 2: the clock. Mean your days don't tick buy anymore. And

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00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: given the bulk of them asked to stop the clock,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden it becomes more expensive and more delayed,

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00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: and he's saying, well, wait a minute, here, the cost

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Speaker 2: of this, an estimated twelve day working delay, adds an

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00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: extra four thousand dollars per house. And when you're doing it,

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Speaker 2: sixty five percent of the time count are not doing

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00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: what the government wants him to do. So on one hand,

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Speaker 2: you make the big grand announcement and say, here's what

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Speaker 2: we're going to do. Here are the new rules, here's

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00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: how it's going to work, and here's how much money

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00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: you're going to say. Real world, it doesn't happen, and

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00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: that's why the government's a bit bogged down with the

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00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: stuff at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen to two cool the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show

1113
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be fourteen away from it. So your heart goes

1115
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: out to Liam Lawson at the moment because he's he's

1116
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: on the verge of getting not sacked. He'll be replaced

1117
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: and put into the racing bulls if things don't improve

1118
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: and improved dramatically. Micah thought he came fifteenth, not twelfth.

1119
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: If you missed, did he came? A couple of people

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00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: got disqualified, So, in other words, did he work his

1121
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: way up the field. Not really a couple of cars

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00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: retired after the end of the race too. Ferrari's got disqualified,

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Speaker 2: ghastly got disqualified for technical issues, and so therefore he

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Speaker 2: sort of almost came twelfth by default. The more important thing,

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Speaker 2: and this is a very good text, Mike Newby here

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Speaker 2: one you be here, can you give us an insight

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Speaker 2: as to why the red Bull car is so hard

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Speaker 2: to drive? For a second drive. The answer, in really

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: simple terms is to make a car compliant, you need downforce.

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Speaker 2: These cars operate their best on downforce, and the more

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00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: downforce you have, the more stable the car is. In

1132
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: other words, downforce forces the car into the ground. If

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00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: you didn't have downforce, the car is so light and

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00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: so powerful it would simply leave the ground. So you

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00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: use downforce to give it traction. Now Max uses less

1136
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: downforce the front than he does at the back. So,

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00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: in other words, if you have the same at the

1138
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: front and the same at the back, you have it's

1139
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: a balanced car. The problem with the balanced car is

1140
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: doesn't go as fast, and so you try and unbalance

1141
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: the car to the point where you can drive it

1142
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: where it's got less downforce but more speed. And the

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Speaker 2: brilliance of a Stappen is he's able to do that

1144
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: in a way that most other people can't.

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Speaker 17: I see one of those guys who sort of leans

1146
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 17: forward over the steering wheel bit when he drives.

1147
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: Probably not, but anyway, Liam and it hasn't been given

1148
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: enough practice. And that's another weird quirk of the sport.

1149
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: There are very there is very little time you get

1150
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: to spend behind the car. So it's not like he

1151
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: sits there in the car during Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday

1152
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: just driving it round and round and around and getting

1153
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: really used to it.

1154
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 17: Can you not sneak out in the middle of the night.

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00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: You can't because they hear the engine when you start it.

1156
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: And so the problem is that Max drives it in

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00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: a way that only Max can drive it, and nobody

1158
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 2: else seems to now. When they went for the test

1159
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: at Silverstone last year, Liam, after seven months of not

1160
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: driving it, jumped in and got within two tenths of

1161
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: Max for step and they saw that and they went

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Speaker 2: the guy can drive. He still can drive. They know

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00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: he can drive. They've got the data to show he

1164
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: can drive. What he can't do at the moment is

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00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: bring the confidence with him to do it and it's

1166
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: killing him and so it's one of those scenarios in

1167
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: which the worse it gets, the worse it gets. And

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00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: so my guess and gut is they'll give him Japan

1169
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: on a week and a half's time and if he

1170
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: doesn't to it, because that track he knows, and he's

1171
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: been on China and Australia he hadn't, so you've got

1172
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Speaker 2: to give him that. So if he can't perform in

1173
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: jan and they're going to drop them, they'll put them

1174
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: in the Racing Bulls and they'll probably elevate THENOA on that,

1175
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: I note that a helmet Marco over the weekend said

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Speaker 2: that look at Hedger who's in the Racing Bulls team

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Speaker 2: as well. But as short answer to your question, it's

1178
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: the balance of the car. And the car is so

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00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: unbalanced you need to be a freak to drive it,

1180
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: and Vastapens a freak and Liam unfortunately it's not.

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Speaker 17: I don't understand though why. I mean, they're two different cars.

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Speaker 2: They set them up the same way. They don't have

1183
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: the material, the resources, the money, the time to they

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00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: can tweak, which they did. If you notice Liam started

1185
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: from the pit lane they did a couple of things

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Speaker 2: in Melbourne. They had, for example, a different nose, of

1187
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 2: different downforce wing and they tweaked little bits and pieces,

1188
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: but the fundamentals remain the same. It's like driving a

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00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: Toyota versus driving a truck. It's still a truck and

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00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: it's still a Toyota. You can put mags on it,

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00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: you can put a flag on it, you can change

1192
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: the upholstery. It's still a truck and it's still a Toyota.

1193
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: And that's what it boils down to. So he's stuck

1194
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: with the red Bull recipe, turn away from it.

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00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: Casting breakfast with the range, Rover, Villa, news Togs, dead.

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Speaker 2: Baking of sports, have sorts seven away from a Sharp

1197
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: Blacks chasing the World Cup in Paris, Ada, Barbez Butcher

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Speaker 2: is going to be testing their skill sets against thirteen

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Speaker 2: other countries in twenty twenty two. We've got bronze Sharp

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00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: Blacks Captain Ricky Kittikitty is what this rookie morning to you?

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00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 12: Oh?

1202
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: Modern, I might is this thing getting bigger each year

1203
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: in terms of participation and interest?

1204
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely become a global event. I think they've got

1205
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 19: a couple of new countries that are coming from the Asia. Yeah,

1206
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 19: it's just gets big every year and looking forward to

1207
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 19: getting there.

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: Good. We've got a team of eight. How do they

1209
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: get selected? What are they what are they looking for?

1210
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 19: So we have it's actually more than We also have

1211
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 19: young butchers and young apprentices competing and we have a

1212
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 19: team the Sharplick Team, which is six. We also have

1213
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 19: a reserve, so that's seven. But basically the young butchers

1214
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 19: and apprentices are competing in their own event against the

1215
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 19: best young butcher's and apprentices in the country. They are

1216
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 19: selected through our competition, our local competition. If you win that,

1217
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 19: go on to the final and win that. That's part

1218
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 19: of the prize, which is a great prize, get to

1219
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 19: travel around the world and compete against the best with

1220
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 19: the team a bit different. So this team that we

1221
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 19: have is the same team we head back in Sacramento

1222
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 19: when we did the selection process. We went through the

1223
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 19: opened up to whoever wants to apply and went to

1224
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 19: the process with the panel and pretty much the same

1225
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 19: team came back, was selected and performing in Paris.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. You've got any sense of where you're at when

1227
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: it comes to the competition.

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00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 19: I continue, we're as far as where we stand on

1229
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 19: the global stage, very good. And past competitions because there

1230
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 19: had been Sharp Legs before us as well, pretty much

1231
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 19: always on the podium, had first seconds. Obviously Sacramento we

1232
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 19: got the bronze. So yeah, very good. We're held in

1233
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 19: high esteem and we've got some great skillful butchers in

1234
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 19: our country and we love to showcase it.

1235
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Speaker 20: Around the world.

1236
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Go well, hope you win. Ricky Ketticia, here's the

1237
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: Sharp Blacks captain with us this morning, six minutes away

1238
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: from eight. I make good analysis on the Red Bull

1239
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: laws and for staff and except if they dump them,

1240
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: that'll be the fourth second driver fail. All four can't

1241
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: be that bad, as James Vale said, blame the problem,

1242
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: not the person. James Valles as the head of Williams

1243
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 2: of course, which brings into the text. So Perez wasn't

1244
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: that bad at all. Well, he wasn't that bad if

1245
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: Lawson fails, And of course Perez wasn't the first. We've

1246
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: had Ghasly and elbon Go before him. Antonelli, Mike did

1247
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: ten thousand k's practice prior to the start of the year.

1248
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: That's true. There are very very strong rules around what

1249
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 2: you can practice, or when you can practice, what you can't.

1250
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: And what they did with Lewis and what they did

1251
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: with Antonelli is they gave them old cars. And you

1252
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: can go in old cars and just go around the

1253
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: track and practice a lot more than you can in

1254
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: a current car. So Lawson missed out on that.

1255
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 17: Also, could he can not have got like on an

1256
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 17: e scooter or something and just gone round and around

1257
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 17: Albert Park. No, during the Christmas holidays or something.

1258
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: No, Okay, Red Bull got into this mess by not

1259
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: going outside the doing the season testing. Leen never got

1260
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: to spend time to get All of that's true. All

1261
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: of that's true. But here's your problem. When Helmet and

1262
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: Christian get together, none of that's going to be discussed.

1263
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: Helmet's not going to go. Do you think Christian we

1264
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: might have given them an old carra but yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1265
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: and yes, but that still doesn't solve their problem. For Japan,

1266
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: so Yuki Sonoda, if Yuki can come in and do

1267
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: something brilliant, then the problem solved. If Yuki comes in

1268
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: and he can't do it, and had you comes in

1269
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: and he can't do it, and then nobody can do it,

1270
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: and then you go back to what James Vale said.

1271
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: But the problem do not underestimate the Yanks and the

1272
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: team because v Stappans not winning, So they're not winning

1273
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: the Driver's Championship and they're not winning the Constructors' Championship

1274
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: and that leads to very unhappy people. And when they

1275
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: get to be very unhappy and Red Bull, they get

1276
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: to sack you. And so this is where we're at

1277
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: as we head to Japan in a week and a

1278
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: half's time. News for you in a couple of moments.

1279
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: Then Jason and Andrew will be the business.

1280
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Speaker 1: On sports course, setting the agenda and talking the big issues,

1281
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, life

1282
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Speaker 21: It is no wrong, no one common bucking knowings. And

1284
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 21: I don't think anyone, particularly nifty lives up the bonus point.

1285
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 21: And it is the Reds who win by twenty nine

1286
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 21: to twenty three.

1287
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Speaker 17: You want to get one.

1288
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 20: And the Crusader's forty two nineteen climb up at Aden Park,

1289
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 20: back top.

1290
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: Back victories, Gord, the Warriors here in twenty twenty five

1291
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: Pakistans have been hammered.

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Speaker 22: You're zeal and win by one hundred and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Runs the Monday Morning commentary on the MIC asking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: Who may have minisuast eight Andrew helvill of Us along

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Speaker 2: with Jason Pine Morning fellas, Mike Andrew, how well do

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Speaker 2: you know? Gris Wiley.

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Speaker 23: Had quite a bit to do with them when I

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Speaker 23: worked in christ Church in my formative years, Mike, as

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Speaker 23: you would have too, I think around those times like

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Speaker 23: late eighties, early nineties. Of course grew up as you did,

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Speaker 23: grew up idolizing Grizz and that Canterbury team that won

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Speaker 23: the Shield in the early eighties and held on to

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Speaker 23: it before that lost to Auckland.

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Speaker 2: He was, you know, the words.

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Speaker 23: Legend and greater often thrown around a bit, but he

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Speaker 23: was a true legend of Canterbury, not only Canterbury rugby

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Speaker 23: but the province itself. When you think of Cannaby rugby,

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Speaker 23: you think of Grizz Wiley from from North Canterbury days

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Speaker 23: through to coaching them, through to playing for Canterbury and

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Speaker 23: the All Blacks, and then coaching both Canterbury and the

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Speaker 23: All Blacks later in life. A remarkable man, someone who

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Speaker 23: was really larger than life in rugby and outside of rugby.

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Speaker 12: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: I played Paul with him and Timaru and they came

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Speaker 2: along to me and they said, you want to game

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Speaker 2: of pool with Gris Wiley? And I said why not?

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Speaker 2: And they said the only thing is you got to

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Speaker 2: pay doubles And I went what? And they said, you

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Speaker 2: got to play doubles because Griz doesn't play singles. And

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Speaker 2: I go, I go, why not? And he goes because

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01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to lose. So if he loses you,

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01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: he blames someone else. You cannot you can you cannot

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Speaker 2: have the bragging rights that I beat Griswiley at Paul,

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Speaker 2: so we had to play doubles. Weird ruling.

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Speaker 23: I remember, as a young man, when I was still

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Speaker 23: learning the art and craft of off field play, a

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Speaker 23: couple of social activities where there was no way you

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Speaker 23: were going to leave early when Gris Wiley was there.

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Speaker 23: You often feel that massive beer poor slap you on

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Speaker 23: the shoulder with another refreshment, and yet there was no

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Speaker 23: way you would head home early. But great great storytellerat yeah,

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Speaker 23: great great man and obviously a big loss for his family.

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Speaker 2: Do you know him, jose Cannaby news on rugby exactly.

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Speaker 24: I knew him from watching his All Blacks teams, obviously

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Speaker 24: from Wellington, not christ Church. I was gutted when Wayne

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Speaker 24: smith scythed through and took the shield away from us

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Speaker 24: in eighty two to start that wonderful run. But the

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Speaker 24: teams that Griws coached in the late eighties I think

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Speaker 24: were some of the best All Blacks teams we've seen

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Speaker 24: off the back of that Rugby World Cup when he

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Speaker 24: took over from Subrian Lahure head coach eight eighty nine,

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Speaker 24: some of the best rugby I've ever seen. And I

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Speaker 24: think it was a bit of a shame really that

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Speaker 24: he was forced together with John Hart for the nineteen

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Speaker 24: ninety one Rugby World Cup. That was never a happy marriage.

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Speaker 24: But didn't have the opportunity to meet Griz in a

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Speaker 24: social setting as sav did very often and probably quite

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Speaker 24: a good thing by the sounds of it.

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Speaker 23: George Foreman, Sav I might just respect just back Degres

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Speaker 23: that talking to a lot of his former players yesterday,

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Speaker 23: some of them just too upset to you know, to

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Speaker 23: talk on camera or talk and media, which is quite understandable.

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Speaker 23: All of them said he just had such a huge impact.

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Speaker 12: On their lives.

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Speaker 23: He changed their lives for ever in that Canterbury team.

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Speaker 23: It's nice and many have gone on to great things.

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Speaker 2: It's a funny thing. I was taking a richer lae

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Speaker 2: about it earlier this morning and I was trying to

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Speaker 2: get across he was. He was one of those. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's of an era where the public persona was not

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Speaker 2: who he was. Privately he was nice, but you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, it was all gruff and publicly, but

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Speaker 2: privately it was a bit of that also, but equally

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Speaker 2: there was more to it than that. I always remember

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Speaker 2: Lorrie Mains. He used to be miserable in the media,

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Speaker 2: but privately was very nice, and then when he lost

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Speaker 2: his job as All Black coach, suddenly it's Lori Mains

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Speaker 2: is the nicest guy you've ever met, and you know, a.

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Speaker 23: Heart of gold, big softy and also a lot of

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Speaker 23: people assumed he was just such a basic rugby coach

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Speaker 23: because of that nice ownA, But from what I found out,

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Speaker 23: used to say he was very innovative and and ahead

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Speaker 23: of his time in fact in rugby.

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Speaker 2: Coaching exactly and seventy since George Foreman, Jason two young,

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Speaker 2: seventy six. But the grill. I'll never forget the grill.

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Speaker 24: No, or the fact that he came back to win

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Speaker 24: the world heavyweight title at the age of forty five,

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Speaker 24: you know, knocking out Michael Moore. I mean, we all remember,

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Speaker 24: you know, the Fraser fight when he knocked him down

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Speaker 24: six times in the first two rounds to become world champion,

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Speaker 24: rumbling the jungle of course. Goodness me, what a what

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Speaker 24: an iconic event. But then yeah, to then retire but

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Speaker 24: come back at forty five. But yeah, the grills and well,

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Speaker 24: we talked about gris being a big teddy bear off

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Speaker 24: the you know, off the rugby field.

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Speaker 14: That's exactly what George Foreman was.

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Speaker 24: Anyone I've read or listened to talk about him was

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Speaker 24: that he was just that way as well, just a.

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Speaker 22: Very generous man with his time and his energy. And yeah,

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Speaker 22: I mean, but he could hit man. He could hit Fraser,

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Speaker 22: Ali Mora and many others. I think he had seventy

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Speaker 22: eight knockouts in eighty six fights. That is some hard punching,

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Speaker 22: not bad.

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Do you think sad with Lawsons? You're twenty three years old,

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Speaker 2: You've got your big break, You've spent the summer in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand anticipating your big break. Your big break turns

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Speaker 2: to shite in two weekends, one in Melbourne, one in China,

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Speaker 2: And as far as I can work out, they'll give

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Speaker 2: him Japan. But unless he turns it round and something

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Speaker 2: miraculous happens, He's toast, isn't he.

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Speaker 23: I'm just going to ask you how much more time

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Speaker 23: will they give him.

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Speaker 2: They'll give him Japan, would they give.

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Speaker 12: Him more than that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they see something in Japan, it's not

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Speaker 2: a sprint weekend, so you get some good practice. And

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Speaker 2: if they see something in Japan but they see yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I mean the thing about that, You've got to understand

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Speaker 2: he didn't overtake anybody, I mean all the other I mean,

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Speaker 2: you look at the result, the result looks better than

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Speaker 2: it is. There's no speed there. He can't drive the car.

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Speaker 2: And unless he learns to do that all of a sudden.

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Speaker 23: What do you take note of that? I did take

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Speaker 23: note of the end of all times down the left

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Speaker 23: hand side of the screen last night. And yeah, he

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Speaker 23: wasn't getting any closer to the guy in front of him. No,

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Speaker 23: which they brought him in two or three times, didn't

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Speaker 23: they for different tires. They keept changing the tires, changing.

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Speaker 12: This and that.

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Speaker 23: Is it a combination of clearly the clearly there was

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Speaker 23: an issue with the tires in China. What about the

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Speaker 23: lack of time and the cary if he drove racing

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Speaker 23: balls last year, but very very different car, very very

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Speaker 23: different set up.

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Speaker 2: But you can't make up to what you haven't got.

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Speaker 2: They can't go look, you know, go practice for six

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Speaker 2: weeks and come back and see us. It's that it's

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Speaker 2: too late.

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Speaker 23: But some of the commentators were saying they should have

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Speaker 23: had him in an older car, which they're allowed to

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Speaker 23: absolutely over the summer.

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Speaker 2: Grun Chanduck said that, and he's right, he's one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent right, But that's retrospective. They didn't and he hasn't,

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Speaker 2: and therefore it.

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Speaker 12: Is what it is.

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Speaker 23: You've got the tires, you got the set up, and

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Speaker 23: also the massive expectation that must surely be that pressure,

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Speaker 23: that expectation on her must be massive, is massive, and

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Speaker 23: it gets.

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Speaker 2: Worse because it's psychological can because it's all confidence. And

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Speaker 2: he knows he can do it because he did it

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Speaker 2: at Silverstone at the test got within two tenths of max.

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Speaker 2: So he can do it. But you know, do you

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Speaker 2: believe you can do it? And if you don't believe

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Speaker 2: you can do it, you won't, and if you don't,

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Speaker 2: you're out. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 23: How different would his car set up beat of a Stapens?

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Speaker 23: I think it would be quite different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's the same car though. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 2: you can stick in your nose and a new you know,

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Speaker 2: foil and stuff, but it's the same car. And so

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Speaker 2: if you don't like the car, or can't handle the car,

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Speaker 2: or the cars unpredictable, then that doesn't change it. You

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Speaker 2: can paint it purple and put a you know, you

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Speaker 2: put a banana seat on it if you want. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to go any different. It's still aridical isn't it.

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Speaker 2: And that's and that's your problem.

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Speaker 14: So I think you're right Mike with.

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Speaker 24: I think you're right with they'll give them Japan, although

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Speaker 24: there's already talking about Yuki Sonoda being in the seat

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Speaker 24: for Japan.

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Speaker 14: I mean that would be very.

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Speaker 2: Now, that'll be unfair.

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Speaker 14: That'll be unfair, wouldn't it, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 12: Yea?

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Speaker 14: So look, but the pressure on the kid goodness doesn't.

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Speaker 24: Need time in the car. It's a hard cut of driver.

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Speaker 24: It's not a great car. That's a step and could

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Speaker 24: only finish fourth last night. Look, I just think time

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Speaker 24: is running out and he doesn't have it.

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Speaker 2: No, And the problem is if they put Sonoda in

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Speaker 2: and he can't drive it, and then they'll put hajurin

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Speaker 2: and he can't try, then what have you achieved? Well, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you just boot through a whole lot of drivers for

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Speaker 2: no particular reason.

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Speaker 23: It's not going to be described as the poison Chealics

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Speaker 23: is at number two to the step. And what would

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Speaker 23: happen if they put Sonoda in the red ball and

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Speaker 23: then Liam back into racing balls and Liam does better

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Speaker 23: than Soda.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the other thing. That's where that was where

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Speaker 2: it was worth before. If you remember when he was

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Speaker 2: at racing balls, he was out qualifying people. And you've

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Speaker 2: got to remember Snoda last night. For all the talk

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Speaker 2: of Sonoda, here was his car fell apart and he

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Speaker 2: didn't even you know, didn't get anywhere. So, I mean

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Speaker 2: it's it's a multi pronged problem. But from our point

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Speaker 2: of view, patriotic point of view, it's a great sadness

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Speaker 2: that somebody who promises so much is on the verge

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Speaker 2: unfortunately of imploding in a fairly sort of global public.

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Speaker 23: Again, doesn't it prove the extra dream high tech nature

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Speaker 23: of these cards and also the massive global pressure on youngsters.

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Speaker 23: I mean a couple of those drivers are teenagers in

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Speaker 23: that field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that fortunately is the other problem Antonelli, but

1505
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: they are and lower the are and lower cars well. Well,

1506
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: Antonelli's in a Mercedes, I think. I think the Mercedes

1507
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: is a good car, and Antonelli's driving it well. But

1508
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: you look at Carlos Science, one of the best drivers

1509
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: in the world. He's still getting to grips with us

1510
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: Williams and that's a much easier car to drive than

1511
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 2: anything he's driven before. So I mean, you know, he's

1512
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 2: got excuses. It's just that the patience factor will run out. Unfortunately, Yes,

1513
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: did anyone play the football Jason over the weekend? I

1514
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: didn't see any of it.

1515
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 14: Where no ALEI got it International break mic because what

1516
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 14: it was.

1517
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: That's why Chris Wood was here and we were playing

1518
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: some some island nation thinking it was a big deal

1519
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 2: and we're going to the World Cup.

1520
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 14: Well yeah, the island nation, big Figi of course on Friday.

1521
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: Well I mean come on, I mean this's this whole thing.

1522
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: Of course we're going to beat Figi and then we'll

1523
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,839
Speaker 2: beat New Caledonia and then because there's eight hundred countries

1524
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: going to the World Cup, of course we're going to

1525
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 2: go to the World Cup. That's how it works, isn't.

1526
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 14: It, Mike.

1527
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 24: The path might be different, but the end reward is

1528
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 24: the same. Yes, it's an expanded, bloated World Cup of

1529
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 24: forty eight teams, but that's not New Zealand's fault. They

1530
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 24: haven't made the rules they've been handed them. Ironically enough,

1531
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 24: the All Whites of twenty twenty five probably would have

1532
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 24: got through the old way. I think they're as good

1533
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 24: at football team as I've seen play for us. Expecting

1534
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 24: a big crowd there to night at Eden Park. I'll

1535
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 24: be amongst the thirty five thousand.

1536
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 14: Will yes, I will be there. I know you probably

1537
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 14: won't be, Mike. I hope tune in at some stage.

1538
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: Are we well? Let me okay, listen in anticipation of

1539
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: the victory tonight in our trip for the World Cup,

1540
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: will we as a nation come to a grinding holt

1541
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: when we draw three times and think we've done well?

1542
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: No?

1543
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 14: That, see that is now not sufficient for this group

1544
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 14: of players.

1545
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 24: I think we'll grind to a halt when New Zealand

1546
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 24: gets out of the group, gets into the knockout stages

1547
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 24: and Chris Wood and Marco Staminich and many of the

1548
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 24: others show on a world stage exactly what they're capable of.

1549
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 14: So you're right, draws aren't any good anymore. I know

1550
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 14: you love your Draws.

1551
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 23: Cup next year and these footballers can't win, can they?

1552
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 23: If it's one or it's a boring game according to hosting,

1553
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 23: If it's ten mil.

1554
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: That's true, I'm hopelessly consistent. Now, Sam, I need you

1555
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 2: to get onto the big story in the sporting world.

1556
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: Are you do you know of Charlie Gallico? Charlie Gallico, right,

1557
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 2: Charlie Gallico is eighty. He is Reggie the Rabbit. So

1558
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: he's a mascot for the NRL team. Right now, do

1559
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: you know the problem with Reggie the Rabbit.

1560
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 23: What's the problem with Reggie.

1561
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: Reggie the Rabbit is on social media having punched a

1562
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: nine year old, so an investigation has been launched. Reggie

1563
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: the Rabbit went rogue. So I need you to be

1564
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: onto that tonight. Please.

1565
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 14: Was it his own grand kit? He would have had

1566
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 14: a lot of kids.

1567
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: From the From the footage I've looked at this morning,

1568
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: the kid was giving him a bit of lip and Charlie,

1569
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: being eighty dressed as Reggie, wasn't having any of it.

1570
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: So he gave the kid a clip, and of course

1571
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: you can't do that as a mess.

1572
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 23: I'll look into that. I tell you what I saw yesterday,

1573
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 23: some wonderful vision of Grizz Right that eighty five game

1574
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 23: Aukan Canterbury Lancaster part We had a camera on the

1575
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 23: sideline following Grizz and he had to make his way

1576
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 23: through the crab. Remember they were down about twenty nine halftime,

1577
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 23: and he came on and gave him this rousing half

1578
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 23: time speech. He had to wind his way through all

1579
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 23: these people who'd gathered on the sideline base and it

1580
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 23: was out of control, and some guys said something to

1581
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 23: as he walked past, Grizz turned and.

1582
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 14: Gave him a bit of a slap.

1583
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 23: This guy then swung a punch at Grizzys.

1584
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: Nice to see you guys, Amy Sevil and Jason Pinets

1585
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Speaker 2: A twenty three.

1586
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1593
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Speaker 2: in North Canary, one of the most beautiful parts of

1594
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1597
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1598
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1608
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Speaker 2: other driver do better than laws and open question? They're

1609
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: setting Liam up to fail, Mike. Terrible cows not a

1610
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: terrible car. The problem is you can't drive it, Mike.

1611
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: Would they swap Lawsom back to sonodus k Yes, he'd

1612
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: go to racing bulls. They you know Liam Lawson is

1613
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 2: still a very very very good driver, so that if

1614
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: they swap it out though, well one put them back

1615
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: to racing bulls. News for you and a couple of moments,

1616
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: then we'll cross the Tasman we catch up with our

1617
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: old mates. Steve Price, Renews Talk said.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show Kiwi's trust to stay in the know.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa designed

1620
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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use togs that'd be.

1621
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Speaker 2: From Sinlay this morning. Our ongoing fascination with the dairy industry.

1622
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: It's not just Fonterra in the game, of course, sin

1623
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: Lay or another player. Ebert dah was up two hundred

1624
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 2: and seventeen percent, Net debts down twenty nine percent, revenues

1625
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: up sixteen percent. Profit is up ninety nine percent to

1626
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: eighty seven million dollars. There forecasting once you added all

1627
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: together for the farmer as a farm milkgate farm gate

1628
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 2: price of ten dollars and forty eight cents. And interestingly,

1629
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: they say in the report only a minimal number of

1630
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: farmers have confirmed their exercising their option to leave Sinlay

1631
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 2: for an alternative processor. So that was that was a

1632
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: sort of a bubbling issue for a period of time.

1633
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: So we might have a really good turnaround story there,

1634
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 2: which is good. Twenty three minutes away from.

1635
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1636
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

1637
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: We go see plast good morning, good ay, that whole time.

1638
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: What have we got this morning?

1639
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 12: Well, newspollows out, but what they've done is they've gone

1640
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 12: back over newspot tracking from the beginning of the year

1641
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 12: too now and they've gone state by state and they've

1642
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 12: looked at age demographics and for most both the major

1643
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 12: parties it's not particularly good news because Labor has seen

1644
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 12: a seven percent drop in support from females. Now what

1645
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 12: we put this down to, well, no one's quite sure.

1646
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 12: Peter Dutton's all always polled badly with younger women, but

1647
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 12: it would appear that the old teal factor may be

1648
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 12: about to kick him again. You might remember some key

1649
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 12: Liberal seats were lost off the back of Scott Morrison

1650
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 12: being a bully, while we're now talking about whether Anthony

1651
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 12: Albanezi can get women to trust him. And the polo

1652
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 12: is very interesting state by state because it shows and

1653
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 12: you and I've talked about this a lot, not surprisingly

1654
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 12: did Victoria ends have a real anti labor mood about

1655
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 12: them at the moment, and they're going to blame the

1656
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 12: federal government for what the state government has done to Victoria.

1657
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 12: So that's not good news for Antony Albneasy. He's got

1658
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 12: to hang onto seats here and there are some predictions

1659
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 12: he could lose up to eight and like the prediction

1660
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 12: I know, I kept giving you predictions about elections but

1661
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 12: you can probably go to the bank with the fact

1662
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 12: that the PM will go and see the Governor General

1663
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 12: on the weekend coming up after the budgets delivered tomorrow night,

1664
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 12: and we'll have either a Mail three or May ten.

1665
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: Election, given that you've had surpluses and tomorrow night's going

1666
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: to be a gargantuan deficit. And also despite the gargantuan deficit,

1667
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: they're going to be handing out cost of living entitlements,

1668
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: so free money for the election. Do people just go cool,

1669
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: I'll have the money, thanks, or does somebody somewhere go

1670
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 2: we can't afford this, and why are you running the

1671
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: economy this way?

1672
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 12: Well the media, the media run that line, but I'm

1673
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 12: firmly of the view that the punt of the voter

1674
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 12: is not much about deficits anymore. I was speaking to

1675
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 12: a leading economist on the weekend who said that this

1676
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 12: is one of the fundamental changes in the debate industrata

1677
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 12: about finances. We're now going to have deficits. It would

1678
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 12: appear that will run up to twenty thirty five, twenty

1679
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 12: thirty four, so ten years into the distance. And the

1680
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 12: Treasurer himself on Sky yesterday said that we're on track

1681
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 12: for years of deficit that remains to be seen when

1682
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 12: the budget will go back into surplus. So even he

1683
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 12: is admitting it, and if you have a treasurer from

1684
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 12: either of the major parties just simply saying, well, you know,

1685
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 12: we're going to have deficits as far as I can see.

1686
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 12: And then clearly they're polling. Their internal polling is telling

1687
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 12: them that the voters don't care much.

1688
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: How are they going to sell I knowe I was

1689
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: reading yesterday Albaneze is going to pitch this work from

1690
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 2: home as a cost of living thing, so you know,

1691
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 2: I'll try and help you and you can save all

1692
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: that money on transportation costs and stuff like that. How

1693
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: does that dubtail with what I'm assuming is business trying

1694
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: to get people back into the office.

1695
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 12: Not only business but also state governments have made it

1696
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 12: very clear. I mean Queensland, off the fact of the

1697
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 12: Liberal National Party win there, I've told people you've got

1698
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 12: to go back to work, community, You've got no excuses anymore.

1699
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 12: We want you in the office. And that mood is

1700
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 12: also pretty much the same in New South Wales and

1701
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 12: South Australia, who are too labor states. So I'm not

1702
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 12: quite sure what Albanez he's doing or what he's doing

1703
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 12: is politicking and electioneering, and it's all going to be

1704
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 12: about I'll give you more money and make your life

1705
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 12: a bit simpler. I mean, we had the leak and

1706
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 12: the weekend papers about the gap the electricity the energy

1707
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 12: price rebate from the federal government's going to continue and

1708
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 12: kick on until the end of the year.

1709
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: But don't people, I just don't get it. I mean

1710
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, I know your power bill and for

1711
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 2: a start, they promised it would be you'd be saving

1712
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: tenn ord seventy five dollars. You're not saving anything like that,

1713
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: and so they're handing out money they don't have to you.

1714
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: But do people not work out the government can't pay

1715
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Speaker 2: your power bill. When the government pays your power bill,

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: there is something wrong with the system.

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01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's just give back your money. I mean, we're

1718
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 12: a very highly taxed nation and they're just using those

1719
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 12: taxes to bribe people to vote for them.

1720
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: Will at work?

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01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 12: It might? It certainly means the election is going to

1722
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 12: be very close. You had Senator Gallagher yesterday, Katie Gallagher,

1723
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 12: the Finance Minster bragging about how they're going to save

1724
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 12: seven hundred and twenty million not spending it on consultants.

1725
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 12: My question there would be, well, why were you doing

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01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 12: that in the first place?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? Is it true to say? I also read yesterday

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01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 2: the suggestion. In fact, it was more than one suggestion.

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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: Dunton's gone off the boil he's had. He was on

1730
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: a roll and now it's gone a bit sour. Is

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01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: that fair or not?

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Speaker 9: That is fair?

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01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 12: But we haven't started the election. He interestingly, will on

1734
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 12: a Thursday have a budget replying, a budget in reply

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01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 12: speech to deliver to federal Parliament after Charmers delivers the

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 12: budget tomorrow night. And he has made it very clear

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01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 12: today that he will have a major announcement in that

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01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 12: budget in reply speech. What does that mean? Probably means

1739
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 12: that he's going to spend as much money as labors,

1740
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 12: but he is going to have a major piece of

1741
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 12: economic policy to announce on Thursday, after being criticized for not.

1742
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: Having one outside of nuclear. It seems to me that

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01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 2: the coalition go, oh, yeah, we'll do that too. Is

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01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: there a lot of that going on? And if there's

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01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: a lot of that going on, why would you vote

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01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: for somebody else? Have been not different, very good question.

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01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 12: It particularly applies to health and education, which are the

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01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 12: strong points for labor. And we saw Peter Dutton immediately

1749
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 12: put his hand up and said we'll spend that too.

1750
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 12: When Albanize made a major announcement about three point five

1751
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 12: or six billion dollars and Peter Dutton came out and said, well,

1752
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 12: not only match that.

1753
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 11: Will spend five hundred million more.

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01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 12: So you're only going to change your vote. And that's

1755
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 12: what changes governments if you are annoyed at the way

1756
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 12: the last three years have been for you personally, either

1757
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 12: in business or as an individual taxpayer. And the mood

1758
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 12: is around in some states that that is exactly what

1759
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 12: people are doing. Will it hold until May three or ten,

1760
01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 12: We'll have to wait and see.

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01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: How about Oscar Ray, He's the real.

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 20: Fantastic Yeah he is.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I feel sorry very much for your boy, Liam.

1764
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 12: I think he's copying it really poorly from the media

1765
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 12: and from some within the Formula One circus who seemed

1766
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 12: intent on talking the kid down. I don't know why

1767
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Speaker 12: Oscar You know, he came. He was on pole first

1768
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 12: time that he has been a pulse at He just

1769
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 12: took off. They tried to get in on the start,

1770
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 12: he just drove the perfect race and there was a

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01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 12: great quote for him across the weekend when he set

1772
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 12: the fastest time to take Paul. He said that was

1773
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 12: the hippin of my life. And given how quick these

1774
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 12: quotes drive, it must have been a hell of a

1775
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 12: corner for him.

1776
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Go well, how's your shoulder mate becoming right? You're

1777
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 2: swinging the clubs, you're practicing in the garage.

1778
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 20: Yet please don't bring it up.

1779
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: See Wednesday see price out of Australia for us this

1780
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 2: morning at is sixteen minutes away from nine Osky. Like

1781
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: I remember Griss Wiley turning up for drink at my wedding.

1782
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: His wife was the venue director and he came and

1783
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: had a drink with a group for twenty five year olds.

1784
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: Was awesome, very nice man. Morning. Mike had the pleasure

1785
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: of Grizz's company a few years ago as a domestic

1786
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: air news Hillen captain. We invited him up front a

1787
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: flight from Queenstown to christ Church. We didn't talk rugby,

1788
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: which I believe he appreciated, but instead we answered as

1789
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 2: many invaried questions about the aircraft and the flight. An

1790
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: absolute gentleman and a memory old treasure. There you go

1791
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:19,799
Speaker 2: eight forty.

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Speaker 1: Five The Like Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1793
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at B.

1794
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: King will be very happy. As in Charles. He and

1795
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 2: Camilla are off to a state visit in Italy, which

1796
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: works out well because there was some concern that the

1797
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: Pope wouldn't be there and they're basically going to see

1798
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: the Pope. Specifically, it's the early part of April, symbolic

1799
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 2: building of the links between the Roman Catholics and the

1800
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: Church of England. Of course he will attend the king

1801
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: an ecumenical in the Sistine Chapel and historic first. He's

1802
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 2: also going to visit the papal Basilica of Saint Paul's

1803
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: outside the Walls. Coincides with the King and Queen's twentieth

1804
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: wedding anniversary. Said it's nice, good place to go at

1805
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: you're into that sort of thing. As warm up. King

1806
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: hosted a dinner at High Grove. Didn't know this, but

1807
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: the menu was inspired by Stanley Tucci, so that's nice.

1808
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: He's going to meet the President of Italy. He's going

1809
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 2: to meet the Prime Minister to become the first UK

1810
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: Monich to address both houses of the Italian Parliament must

1811
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,839
Speaker 2: talk to Joe about this. This week there's a state banquet,

1812
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: isn't there always joint fly past over Rome by the

1813
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,520
Speaker 2: Italian Air Force in the UK's Red Arrow. So that's

1814
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: quite the trip and the Pope looks like he'll be

1815
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: set to see it, which is fantastic. The other thing

1816
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: I must ask Christopher Luxem when he's on the program

1817
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: tomorrow is once again Wayne Brown, who's the mayor of Auckland.

1818
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: And I don't want to boy you with an Auckland story,

1819
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: but it's got this tourism thing, and he's been big

1820
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 2: on this. He claims he's got promises from people in

1821
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 2: China that the Chinese airlines that they're going to launch

1822
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 2: routes through Auckland to South America and that Chinese goods

1823
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: are going to be shipped through bonded warehouses here. If

1824
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 2: only we could get our act together with the China. Now,

1825
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 2: the problem with the moment is, and of course this

1826
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: goes back to the tourism story over and over again.

1827
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 2: They're not back the way they used to. Part of

1828
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: the problems the Chinese aren't coming here, and part of

1829
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: the reason is that the Chinese aren't coming here the

1830
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: way they used to is they've got to fill out

1831
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: these visa forms. It's difficult to fill out visas. Why

1832
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't you go to a country where you don't have

1833
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: to fill out of visa and bypass New Zealand, which

1834
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: they're doing so Wayan Brown is arguing we need visa

1835
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: free travel now. I tried a couple of bite and

1836
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: what would have been a month or so ago. I

1837
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: talked to Erica Stamford and the Prime Minister about it,

1838
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: and they were very in that kind of What they

1839
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: wanted to say was we don't trust the Chinese, hence

1840
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: they need visas, but they couldn't say that. But in

1841
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: not saying that and not being forthcoming about it, you're

1842
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: really saying it by default, aren't you. I mean, when

1843
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: you say that, you know there are some countries that

1844
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 2: are visa free in other countries that aren't. In China's

1845
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: one of them, you're essentially saying we don't trust the Chinese. Anyway,

1846
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: as Wayne Brown so eloquently put it over the weekend,

1847
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 2: that's CIA bullshit. So I mean, you can't argue with that.

1848
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,799
Speaker 17: That's why people have ever the diplomat exactly.

1849
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 2: That's why people love Wayne Brown. That is CIA just

1850
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: get rid of the visas, get them into the country,

1851
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: and once they come into the country, suddenly you're going

1852
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: to have a whole bunch of airlines flying through walcome

1853
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: to South America. You're going to have a whole other

1854
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 2: of Chinese goods coming through the country, and you're going

1855
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: to see untold fortune and wealth coming to this particular

1856
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: part of the world. So anyway, I'll raise that with

1857
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 2: the Prime Minisaur again tomorrow nine away from nine, the.

1858
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement, communities news, togs Head,

1859
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: be a lot.

1860
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 2: Of things I should mention the Sudanese Army if you

1861
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: missed it over the weekend of recapture, the Presidential Palace.

1862
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: Is that material tis sort of that particular war and

1863
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 2: that particular part of the world has been going on

1864
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: since April of twenty three, so it's coming up to

1865
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: two years old. Twelve million people have been forced from

1866
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: their homes, millions more faced famine. Is it over?

1867
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 4: No?

1868
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: Is it close to being over? No, They've got the

1869
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: presidential palace. I suppose that's something. Indonesian law has been

1870
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 2: changed over the weekend as well, very Sahato well Subianto.

1871
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: Basically it allows the military more power, a bigger role

1872
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: in government, the fearers. It could return Indonesia to Sahato's day.

1873
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: So the current bloke Subianto, former special forces commander and

1874
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: Sahartu's son in law. Of course, allows military officers to

1875
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: take up positions in government without first retiring or resigning

1876
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 2: from armed forces. So people worried about that's not to

1877
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: worried about when run the world at the mome is

1878
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: complicated or place at the moment five minutes away from nine.

1879
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

1880
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 2: Now tell you what of all the elections, this one

1881
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: could be. This could be the one to watch because

1882
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 2: Carney this morning if you've missed it. Mark Carney, who

1883
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 2: was once the head of the Bank of Canada, but

1884
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: more famously the head of the Bank of England before

1885
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: he went back to Canada and went, oh, I think

1886
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 2: I might like to run this place currently prime minister

1887
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: because Trudeau turned out to be useless of course, and

1888
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 2: then quit and he got given the job the other

1889
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: day and then sworn at as prime minister. Anyways, called

1890
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: the election date for April twenty eight, And as part

1891
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: of the campaign, he's got a video and it's at

1892
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: a nice hockey rink and he's linked up with a

1893
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 2: well known fate as part of his plage. And this

1894
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: is why he may will actually make this contest. It's

1895
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: called take on Trump. Mister Prime Minister, Mike Myers, what

1896
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: are you doing here?

1897
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 14: I just thought i'd come up and check on things.

1898
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,839
Speaker 17: You live in the States, Yeah, but I'll always be Canadian,

1899
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 17: but you live in the States.

1900
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. So do you remember mister dress Up, the children's

1901
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 4: show on CBC. What were the names of Mister dress

1902
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,839
Speaker 4: Up's two puppet friends, Casey and Finnegan?

1903
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 5: Bud uh Spud?

1904
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 24: Howie Meeker Capitalist Saskatchewan, Regina, tragically Pitt.

1905
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 2: You're a defenseman defending a two on one?

1906
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 14: What do you do take away the pass?

1907
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 4: Obviously?

1908
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: What are the two seasons in Toronto?

1909
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 17: Winter and construction?

1910
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 11: Wow?

1911
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: We really are Canadian?

1912
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 17: Yeah, but let me ask you, mister Prime minister. Will

1913
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 17: there always be a Canada?

1914
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 2: There will always be a Canada, all right? Elbows out,

1915
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 2: elbows up. Connie's good. He's a natural, isn't he. In

1916
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 2: delivering the script, most politicians couldn't deliver it. Well, who's

1917
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: very clever. Myers, by the way, is playing Elon Musk

1918
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: on SNL. He's also wearing an ice hockey shirt with

1919
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: the last name Never on the back. The number is

1920
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: fifty one, never fifty one. Get it, state governor. So

1921
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 2: here's the right. The problem was up until this point

1922
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 2: of the reason Trudeau quite if you hadn't followed all

1923
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 2: of this, is they were being thrashed and they will

1924
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: probably lose because they've been in power for ten years.

1925
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 2: People are second tired of them. During COVID, he went

1926
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: and sort of chanced his arm and did the whole hey,

1927
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Speaker 2: I've looked after you. Well in COVID, do you want

1928
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Speaker 2: to re elect me in a majority government because it

1929
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Speaker 2: was a minority and they said no thanks, and so

1930
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Speaker 2: he stayed on as a minority. So the Conservatives have

1931
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Speaker 2: been ahead by as much as twenty points. Post Trump

1932
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Speaker 2: and the tariffs and the governor and the fifty first

1933
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Speaker 2: state thing, suddenly the government are back and there's a

1934
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Speaker 2: race on and it's a tight race and this guy

1935
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Speaker 2: Carney looks the goods. So we'll see how that goes.

1936
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Speaker 2: What was once a fall on conclusion now is not

1937
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Speaker 2: anyway back. Tomorrow morning from six Happy Days.

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