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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealand's Welcome to Matt and Tyler Full

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Speaker 2: Show Podcast number two eighty three for the ninth of

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Speaker 2: February twenty twenty sex. I think we have to say, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we didn't do that. We didn't, did we. We know

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour. But we said we were going to do

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Speaker 2: a subject that we didn't get to. But these people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't worry about that, So.

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Speaker 2: We don't even do that subject. Yeah, we pivoted to

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Speaker 2: you know, do the poor of New Zealand live like

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Speaker 2: kings and queens compared to people of yester year? And

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Speaker 2: that was a fun but heated topic.

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Speaker 3: Certainly was. And then the oh the concert etiquette chat fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we do something in the middle.

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Of course? No, we had a little chat too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a superl chat. But there was something

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course, yeah yeah, listen out for that and

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Speaker 3: also subscribe to this a fantastic, fantastic story from Matt

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Speaker 3: about what happened to him at a Liam Gallagher concert.

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Speaker 3: You've got to hear that. Great bad bad behavior. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: And you've seen busy Sewillie, you go all right, all right,

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Speaker 2: love you give them taste Kiye.

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Speaker 1: Stories, the league issues, the big trends and everything in

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Speaker 1: between them. Ki It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoon

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Speaker 1: Squid Shodder News Talk said, be very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 1: Welcome man to Monday show. Great to have you with us,

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Speaker 1: as always, Get a matte.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler, So I was saying before us. In

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Speaker 2: Wellington over the weekend, had a fantastic time, beautiful weather,

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Speaker 2: great city. I know there's a lot of sewage being

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Speaker 2: I was in town and Oriental Bay and such was

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Speaker 2: and the Bad Seeds of the TSB Arena and it

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Speaker 2: was such a fantastic show. I went to the second

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Speaker 2: sold out show and it was a religious experience the show.

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Speaker 2: I think he played twenty five songs, and my partner, Tracy,

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Speaker 2: she said, the whole time she kept turning around. I

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Speaker 2: Because he's just such an iconic human being, such a

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Speaker 2: He knows what he is. He doesn't care what you

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Speaker 2: And at that exact moment when I was just so

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've all had too much sorrow. Now is

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Speaker 2: But yeah, twenty five songs, absolute religious experience. I've seen

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Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks are facing the New England Patriots. So,

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Speaker 5: I'm unhappy super Bowl Monday, to see you balls. Thanks

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Speaker 2: Look, thanks for joining us. Who's the favorite to win? Chris?

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Speaker 5: So officially in Vegas it closed as the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 5: Day, Well, it dominates every single conversation. That's probably the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for people listening to New Zealand and I'm not

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Speaker 5: but yeah, no, no, no, I think this Super Bowl. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 5: So these are two teams that had really no chance

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Speaker 3: Yeah, love it, Chris, fantastic to chat with you. Go

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Speaker 3: Enjoyed this afternoon. That is Chris ex college running back

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Speaker 3: and commissioner of the Finkle Clutcher League, Beggary. Shortly, it

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Speaker 3: So let's get into this discussion. We had a chat

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Speaker 3: So it's an interesting comment, and no, you know, it's

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Speaker 15: I've lived and worked in over forty countries around the world,

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Speaker 15: And the abject conditions that these people live in you

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Speaker 15: So my last trip to Bangladesh would have been downtown Daka.

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Speaker 2: So do you think it's Do you think it's helpful

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Speaker 15: But proply speaking, I think New Zelanders overall are better

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Speaker 15: off than the past. I think we have done a

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Speaker 15: very good job. We've been at the forefront of a

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Speaker 15: lot of us and social welfare, starting way back to

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Speaker 15: Savage and Co. But there's always going to be disparity

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Speaker 15: so going back again to places like Bangladesh and India,

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Speaker 15: you had some exceedingly rich people and some exceedingly poor people.

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Speaker 3: M do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've experienced sorry Tyler, just go to

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Speaker 2: you to Seecond. I've experienced in India where you've got

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Speaker 2: a literally a Lamborghini and he sales yard that drives

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Speaker 2: out over open sewers onto the onto the roads. Wow.

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Speaker 2: So that that kind of that kind of juxtaposisions pretty

447
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Speaker 2: pretty pretty Jarr.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Layton, you concur with that, well, Well, the thing

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Speaker 16: is you wouldn't own a Lamborghini in Bangladesh or whatever

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Speaker 16: the roads that wreck the car.

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Speaker 2: So we will always do a better than Bangladesh in

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Speaker 2: that regard.

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Speaker 15: Yes, so you're teem to find the car bo drive

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Speaker 15: would be the top of the line that could contend

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Speaker 15: with the conditions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Layton, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

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Speaker 3: Great to get your thoughts on this. Oh, eight one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty you want to hear from

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Speaker 3: you as well. That's the number of call. Nine two

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Speaker 3: ninety two is the text. We've got headlines coming up

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Speaker 3: with ray Lean and more in a moment, so.

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Speaker 2: That the stat I was talking about for extreme property

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Speaker 2: poverty has decreased from ninety percent of the world's population

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Speaker 2: to about eight percent.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So globally things are getting better and New Zealand's at

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Speaker 2: the top of this. So this is just over. In

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Speaker 2: the last fifty years, extreme poverties decreased from nine percent

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Speaker 2: of the world's population to just eight percent.

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Speaker 3: That is a huge drop. Massive. It is twenty seven

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Speaker 3: to two bagary.

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Speaker 18: flooding into the sea. One person's in a critical condition

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Speaker 18: after a grievous assault on central christ Church's Fitzgerald Avenue

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Speaker 18: just after midday. Police say one person is in custody.

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Speaker 18: a greenstone necklace, with long curly brown hair and light

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Speaker 18: facial hair. The government's investing one million dollars into a

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Speaker 18: partnership between Antarctica and New Zealand and the United Arab

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Speaker 18: Emirates at Khalifa University to investigate the weather effects of

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Speaker 18: climate change in Antarctica. Auckland CBD office vacancies drop for

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Speaker 18: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for Ayleen. So we're talking about

494
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Speaker 3: some heat David Seymour as getting from opposition parties. It

495
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Speaker 3: was over some comments he made at Waitangi Day. Here

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Speaker 3: is a little bit of that.

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Speaker 11: Well, you only have to look at New Zealand as

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Speaker 11: a success story. Even the poorest people in New Zealand

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Speaker 11: today are living like kings and Queen's compared with most

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Speaker 11: places at most times in history. I think that you

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Speaker 11: could hardly say that being one of the most successful

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Speaker 11: societies of the world today, which New Zealand is, we

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Speaker 11: sometimes forget what it is. You can hardly say that

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Speaker 11: that's a poor outcome.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to argue with the point he's

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Speaker 2: making compared to history, right, because a stat that people

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Speaker 2: forget is that most humans that were ever born didn't

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Speaker 2: make it to adulthood. So you know, if you've already

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Speaker 2: made it to adulthood, and by adulthood that means puberty,

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Speaker 2: So if you've made it to thirteen or fourteen, then

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Speaker 2: you're doing better than most humans born across history. Although

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Speaker 2: to be fair, I mean a long life, that's a

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Speaker 2: horrible life, you know, may not seem like a great thing.

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Speaker 2: But to look at his point about kings and queens,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's kind what is triggering people because

516
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Speaker 2: he's just talking, he's answering a question, and it's triggering

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Speaker 2: to people to hear that because I walk past someone

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Speaker 2: who's lying in their own feces on the street and go,

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Speaker 2: we you don't seem to be living like a king. Although,

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Speaker 2: to be fair, kings and queens, some of them were

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Speaker 2: into that kind of thing. But if you look at

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Speaker 2: what material hardship is considered by our government, and let's

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Speaker 2: be clear, we want it would be great if no

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Speaker 2: one was you know, everyone was lifted up. You know,

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Speaker 2: of course that's a great society. Just because New zeald

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Speaker 2: is one of the best doesn't mean we can't do more.

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Speaker 2: But material hardship as defined by the Ministry of Social Development,

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Speaker 2: So households are considered in hardship if they lack six

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Speaker 2: or more essential items. So this is from the list

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Speaker 2: adequate heating yep, okay, weather proof housing right, two pairs

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Speaker 2: of shoes, being able to replace worn out clothes, fresh

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Speaker 2: fruit and vegetables, ability to pay power bills on time,

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Speaker 2: access to the Internet at home. Right, So you know

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Speaker 2: that's adequate heating, waterproof housing, two pairs of shoes, replaced

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Speaker 2: worn out clothes, fresh fruit and vegetables, ability to pay

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Speaker 2: power bills, and access to internet at home. So that's

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Speaker 2: hardship in New Zealand. So I don't know, I mean

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Speaker 2: there was. I mean it's just a big glib. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Kings didn't and queens didn't have the Internet.

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Speaker 3: No, No, that was I mean they would have loved

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Speaker 3: to have that, I'm sure, but even.

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Speaker 2: Just but I mean, isn't it great to live in

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Speaker 2: a country that can list that as material hardship?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Been excess to fresh fruit you know, and vegetables.

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Speaker 3: Even the kings and queens two hundred years back, that

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Speaker 3: would be an absolute luxury and would have cost a fortune. Dallas,

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Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: And also we get free and veggies off season two

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Speaker 19: all year round, if you know, if you want to

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Speaker 19: sometimes so, But mad I just want to thank you

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Speaker 19: for something you said a couple of weeks ago. But

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Speaker 19: we don't have to solve the world's problems, you know.

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Speaker 19: We don't have to worry about America's problems or the

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Speaker 19: UK's problems, you know. But we're often we hear it

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Speaker 19: like the news is coming from around the world and

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Speaker 19: it's awful everywhere, and we feel like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 19: we have to worry about that. But that was great

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Speaker 19: what you said there.

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Speaker 15: So thanks for that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no problem.

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Speaker 19: Yeah. And as far as I mean, I've got friends

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Speaker 19: and who I support in the Philippines and Kenya and

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Speaker 19: over those countries. If you don't work, you don't eat,

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Speaker 19: and there's no welfare, and there's high levels of corruption

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Speaker 19: and so that the money doesn't trickle down to the poor,

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Speaker 19: you know, very rarely. So in those senses, we are

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Speaker 19: so blessed to have low levels of corruption in high

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Speaker 19: places and a welfare system.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the weal welfare system is something that

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Speaker 2: we should be proud of?

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Speaker 15: Absolutely, it's a real.

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Speaker 19: I mean, I feel sorry for my friends in these places,

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Speaker 19: these silver countries. There's no welfare system, and especially when

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Speaker 19: they get sick, it's it's really expensive because it's all

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Speaker 19: privatized over there.

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Speaker 14: So you're in real trouble.

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Speaker 19: If you get sick in the Philippines or Kenya or

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Speaker 19: some of these countries, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, sorry, was you carry out?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 19: They rely heavily on the family, the wider family. If

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Speaker 19: someone gets sick, everyone's sort of you know, put money

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Speaker 19: in to help them. They rely heavily on that, whereas

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Speaker 19: we don't. We have the welfare system. So you know,

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Speaker 19: but go on.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, but Dallas, we do

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Speaker 2: still have people living on the streets. I mean in Auckland,

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Speaker 2: I see them every every day. So do you think

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Speaker 2: that is a failing of the welfare system, because, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just to take it back, so I've spent a bit

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Speaker 2: of time in India and I've seen people children that

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Speaker 2: are living in dumps and such, you know, on the

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Speaker 2: side of the roads. I don't think anyone I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure because in New Zealand, if there were kids living

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Speaker 2: on the side of the road, do you think that

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Speaker 2: we have systems in place such that those kids would

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Speaker 2: be approached by someone within days? Or do you think

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Speaker 2: we still live in a country where you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking of an eight and ten year old that I saw,

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Speaker 2: I'm just judging their name, living living in this dump

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Speaker 2: and picking up food out of the side of the road.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we live in a country that we have,

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Speaker 2: you know, the social infrastructure such that people like that

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Speaker 2: would be spotted, like you know, races that have run

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Speaker 2: away from their family or whatever situation on poverty that

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Speaker 2: leaves them on the street.

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Speaker 19: Well, live in Auckland. I live in a small rural

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Speaker 19: town where that would not happen. You know, if someone

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Speaker 19: was lying on the side of the road, that would

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Speaker 19: be dealt with, you know, quickly. And there's no homeless

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Speaker 19: people where I live, you know, in a small town.

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Speaker 14: So the big I think that's a that's.

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Speaker 19: A city problem worldwide. Big cities in Auckland's you know,

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Speaker 19: not big, but I think you're starting to get those

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Speaker 19: big city problems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think we're in empathetic society Dallas. Do

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Speaker 3: you think most people in New Zealand see people in

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Speaker 3: those situations and for most part help out if they can,

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Speaker 3: or give some money or at the very least care

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Speaker 3: you know of trying to lift them up.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: I think people are the same all around the world, Tyler.

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Speaker 19: I think we're all the same basis that we generally

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Speaker 19: are compassionate people human beings, unless we're so sick ourselves

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Speaker 19: mentally or in some other way that we haven't got

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Speaker 19: any energy to give it to others. And then that

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Speaker 19: case we do have to sort of look in with

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Speaker 19: and heal ourselves. But most healthy people, most healthy people

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Speaker 19: are compassionate. But sometimes I think it becomes overwhelming and

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Speaker 19: the problems and it's another thing you said too, Matt,

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Speaker 19: about you know, the algorithms keep feeding us negativity. And

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Speaker 19: our political system too, is based on the opposition have

634
00:31:55,453 --> 00:31:59,013
Speaker 19: always got to be negative, negative, and negative, and so

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00:31:59,053 --> 00:32:01,253
Speaker 19: you're never going to get good news from the opposition,

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Speaker 19: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I think if you called us well, I

638
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Speaker 2: think the thing is if a party seed we're going

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Speaker 2: to remove the social welfare net, I don't think they'll

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Speaker 2: get elected a New Zealand. No, if we said there

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Speaker 2: was going to be even getting rid of the unemployment benefit.

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Speaker 2: I don't think a party could because because look how

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Speaker 2: you know, National kept working for families because politically they

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Speaker 2: couldn't get rid of it, right, So that that's a

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Speaker 2: social net for people that are employed.

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Speaker 20: You know.

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Speaker 2: The six said, I'm a teacher in Auckland. I earn

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Speaker 2: twenty one hundred fortnite. I have no mortgage one hundred fortnite.

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Speaker 2: So you're a full time teacher one hundred fortnite. My rates,

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Speaker 2: insurance et cetera come to seven hundred dollars seven hundred

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Speaker 2: at fortnite. I have three children. I struggle to hear

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Speaker 2: Seymour's comments. I think they are they are awful, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, but the question isn't whether you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: I totally feel for you if you feel those comments

655
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Speaker 2: were awful to hear them, because you know, as someone

656
00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:03,853
Speaker 2: says you, we're nickel and diming on. I'm saying kings

657
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Speaker 2: and queens, come on, stick to the point of his message,

658
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Speaker 2: But it's just really saying, if you're a teacher in

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Speaker 2: Auckland and you earn that kind of money, and you

660
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Speaker 2: have a mortgage, you have no mortgage, but your insurance eccetera.

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Speaker 2: Comes to that you're still living a life that's better

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Speaker 2: than most people around the world. I mean, you have

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Speaker 2: employment and you can feed your children historically. Yeah, So

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Speaker 2: even though it's hard to hear it, it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: the truth that you may not have everything you want

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Speaker 2: and you may be struggling. There might be a lot

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Speaker 2: of stress, but you are historically still in a good position.

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Speaker 3: That's right. It's a gratitude question, isn't it gratitude that

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Speaker 3: you don't have a mortgage, Gratitude that you've got those

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Speaker 3: three children. Yes, you struggle, absolutely, but that gratitude element.

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Speaker 3: That's what I took out of David Seymore's comments. But

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Speaker 3: what do you say, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call? It is fourteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Just to have a Chad with Matt and Tayler on

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Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Matt Heathan Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons with Skoda, can you crack the scoter code

677
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Speaker 1: used dogs?

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Speaker 3: That'd be it is eleven to two. So we're talking

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Speaker 3: about comments by David Seamour. It's some pushback from opposition parties.

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Speaker 3: To paraphrase, he said, by historical standards, even New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: poorest people today enjoy a standard of living that far

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Speaker 3: exceeds what most people experienced in the past.

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Speaker 2: The sex that says, so people should be happy they're

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Speaker 2: in poverty and not abject poverty. What's the stats for

685
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Speaker 2: kids living poverty in New Zealand. Well, I guess no,

686
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Speaker 2: it's not that the people in poverty should be happy.

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Speaker 2: That's not what we're saying. The question was overall in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, should we celebrate that New Zealand is a stable,

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Speaker 2: comparatively wealthy country. It's a lot to ask the people

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Speaker 2: that aren't doing well and seeing other people doing better

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Speaker 2: to be grateful. Yeah, I mean it might be helpful

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Speaker 2: for them if they do think about it. I mean

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Speaker 2: there's that that, you know, there's that comparison comparing people

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Speaker 2: that are worse than you, off than you and better

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Speaker 2: than you can make you feel better. But the question

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Speaker 2: isn't how someone that's in poverty feels, it's how we

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00:34:57,653 --> 00:35:02,013
Speaker 2: should feel about the country across the board. And you know,

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Speaker 2: we live in one of the wealthiest, most stable, fairest

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Speaker 2: countries that has ever societies it's ever existed and so

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Speaker 2: as a country we should feel proud of That is

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Speaker 2: really what it's been saying. Yeah, but yeah, you can't

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Speaker 2: go up to someone that's really struggling and poor and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, be happy. I don't think that would be helpful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course not. But that is not what David

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Speaker 3: Semol was saying. Trevor, what do you reckon about this?

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Speaker 13: Okay, I'm probably going to just echo what quite a

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Speaker 13: few people have says, but I just think what David

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Speaker 13: female said even to like he said historically but even now,

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Speaker 13: and I think you've touched on if anybody's traveled, I

710
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Speaker 13: mean a lot of popular tourist destinations and Upper Asia

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Speaker 13: that the Zealanders loved going to. You know, you go

712
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Speaker 13: there and you do ask yourself or you speak to

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Speaker 13: the people there and you are sort of scratching your

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Speaker 13: head and just thinking how lucky we are in New Zealand.

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Speaker 13: I mean people talked about you know, no job, no,

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Speaker 13: you know no. But you know, in a lot of

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Speaker 13: these countries, if you have a child like its sure

718
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Speaker 13: as to look after you. And unfortunately, if you had

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Speaker 13: a child that has got a or mental disability, will sorry,

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Speaker 13: no help at all. And I just think the point

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Speaker 13: that's making that what we've got here has never perked,

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Speaker 13: it will ever be a perfect place for one hundred

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Speaker 13: percent of the population to live. And I think the

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Speaker 13: biggest what Seama was trying to say that in a

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Speaker 13: lot of countries. I mean, look, I'll use India as

726
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Speaker 13: an example. You know, India has some of the richest

727
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Speaker 13: richest people in the world. You probably find three of

728
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Speaker 13: the richest people in the world are from India, or

729
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Speaker 13: you watch the BBL and those people buying these cricket teams.

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Speaker 13: Yet for a lot of India the absolute and extreme

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Speaker 13: extreme poverty. So you know, I just think with our countries,

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Speaker 13: I probably won't have the figures right. But in a

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Speaker 13: country like ours, and maybe is Australia, for eighty percent

734
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Speaker 13: of the population, maybe a little bit more, that's okay,

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Speaker 13: you can survive a reasonable standard a lot of living

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Speaker 13: about eighty percent. But in those other countries that I

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Speaker 13: think Seymour was talking about route for eighty percent of

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Speaker 13: the popular it's not your can't live. It's very difficult

739
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Speaker 13: to live. And we're almost reversed. So I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 13: turn the TV on, which what's happening in Sudan at

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Speaker 13: the moment, and some of those Congo and some of

742
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Speaker 13: those African countries. I mean, you know, and you scratch

743
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Speaker 13: your head and you're worry about you know, a blocker

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00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:29,573
Speaker 13: butt a costs ten dollars thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, and it's not Also it's not

746
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Speaker 2: just economic, right, So you look what's happening in Iran

747
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Speaker 2: at the moment. Just the amount of freedom that we

748
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Speaker 2: have in this country just to say and do what

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Speaker 2: we want, and the amount of freedom that people, all

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Speaker 2: kinds of people have in this country. So you know,

751
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Speaker 2: that's the one of the fairest countries in the world

752
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Speaker 2: as well, stable and fear and that that's huge as well,

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Speaker 2: you know, along with the economic side of it. Because

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Speaker 2: I mean people should I mean, I know, because the

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Speaker 2: internet's been shut down in Iran, so a lot of

756
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Speaker 2: stuff doesn't come out. But I think people should spend

757
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Speaker 2: some time thinking about what people are protesting for in

758
00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:11,653
Speaker 2: run that that would that would that would make people

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Speaker 2: I don't know, if that was suddenly imposed what was

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Speaker 2: been imposed on there since the early eighties in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: I think people would be I don't know I don't

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Speaker 2: know if people could even handle it.

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Speaker 3: No, exactly, Trevor, thank you very much for your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: It is seven minutes to two.

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Speaker 1: Back very soon, Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls

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Speaker 1: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks ed B. It is four minutes to two.

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Speaker 2: This text has said what a complete if what toe

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Speaker 2: rag that? See? I'm not going to say that Seymour is.

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Speaker 2: This is a very nasty text, isn't it? And you

772
00:38:51,733 --> 00:38:55,413
Speaker 2: two secofants praising his comments, won't do you both go?

773
00:38:55,613 --> 00:38:57,292
Speaker 2: Why don't you both go down to the local soup

774
00:38:57,373 --> 00:38:59,772
Speaker 2: kitchen to get a proper factual view on how bad

775
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Speaker 2: the level of poverty really is in New Zealand. The

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Speaker 2: sooner the better Seymour is gone, the better and sooner. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: text doesn't really make sense, but yes, send us the

778
00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:13,652
Speaker 2: address of your local soup kitchen and we will go

779
00:39:13,693 --> 00:39:16,053
Speaker 2: down there. But I mean that's as in data across

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Speaker 2: the nation?

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Speaker 3: Is it exactly?

782
00:39:17,693 --> 00:39:21,212
Speaker 2: As example of very poor people? And our heart goes

783
00:39:21,213 --> 00:39:21,613
Speaker 2: out to them?

784
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Speaker 3: Yep, spot On write Newsport and weather is coming up.

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Speaker 3: Stay right here, we'll be back soon talking with you

786
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Speaker 3: all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda NEWSTALGSB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks B. Welcome back into the show. It is

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Speaker 3: seven past two.

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Speaker 2: So in the last hour we were talking about comments

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Speaker 2: David Seymour made saying that you know, New Zealand just

792
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Speaker 2: a parapher rays is you know, a reasonably stable and

793
00:39:49,613 --> 00:39:53,933
Speaker 2: wealthy country comparatively, and he said even the poor in

794
00:39:53,973 --> 00:39:56,413
Speaker 2: this country he said live like kings and queens, which

795
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Speaker 2: has triggered some people and a lot of texts have

796
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Speaker 2: been triggered.

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Speaker 3: By this very much.

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Speaker 2: Take this text here. What an evil, horrible thing to say,

799
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Speaker 2: Kings and queens. Half this country is starving to death,

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Speaker 2: and you guys say we have it good. We do not.

801
00:40:08,653 --> 00:40:10,533
Speaker 2: Half the country isn't starving to death in fact, and

802
00:40:10,573 --> 00:40:14,253
Speaker 2: New Zealand obesity is a much bigger killer than starvation.

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Speaker 2: In fact, pretty sure starvation isn't a killer at all.

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00:40:16,973 --> 00:40:19,373
Speaker 2: But yeah, get your point. I hope you and your

805
00:40:19,373 --> 00:40:21,573
Speaker 2: family end up on the streets. You deserve to starve

806
00:40:21,653 --> 00:40:24,013
Speaker 2: to death. New Zealand does not have it good. Anyone

807
00:40:24,053 --> 00:40:27,133
Speaker 2: who says it does is evil, says this texter, and

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00:40:27,173 --> 00:40:29,213
Speaker 2: this one says anyone who says New Zealand is a

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Speaker 2: good place to live as an entitled ass hole, Well,

810
00:40:33,013 --> 00:40:35,613
Speaker 2: who deserves what is coming to them? Okay, But I

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Speaker 2: think and that's just the sort of a sample of

812
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Speaker 2: kind of text you get on this when you say

813
00:40:39,533 --> 00:40:42,172
Speaker 2: something positive about New Zealand. But to be fair, most

814
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Speaker 2: of the texts have been going, yes, we're in a

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Speaker 2: good place. But I think people who are texting this

816
00:40:47,533 --> 00:40:51,293
Speaker 2: kind of stuff missed the point. New Zealand isn't perfect

817
00:40:51,373 --> 00:40:54,373
Speaker 2: and we should never stop working hard to make it better.

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Speaker 2: But also every now and then, I don't think there

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Speaker 2: is anything wrong with patting ourselves on the back for

820
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Speaker 2: where we are. That we, you know what, we have

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Speaker 2: created a comparatively wealthy, stable, and fear country, both currently

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Speaker 2: globally speaking, but also definitely historically. This is an absolute

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Speaker 2: unicorn event in the history of humanity. It is you know,

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Speaker 2: it is better here now than nearly anywhere else ever.

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00:41:25,293 --> 00:41:28,613
Speaker 2: And I think that's an objective truth that you can prove,

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Speaker 2: and we should be proud. We have a social safety

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Speaker 2: net the likes of which is so rare in history

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Speaker 2: and has nearly no equal that they. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: probably cold comfort for people that are doing it tough.

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Speaker 2: But our country is like that because because we were

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Speaker 2: caring people, so we can do better. But at least

832
00:41:48,493 --> 00:41:51,613
Speaker 2: we're doing better than nearly anyone else ever has. So

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Speaker 2: is it the end of the world for us to

834
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Speaker 2: bring that up every now and then? Or do we

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Speaker 2: just always have to repeatedly flagellate ourselves like the Albino

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Speaker 2: and the Da Vinci code.

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Speaker 3: According to the Texas apparently we need to do the latter.

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Speaker 3: But great discussion, thank you very much. Very interesting. When

839
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Speaker 3: it comes to subscription how often have you run into

840
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Speaker 3: a nightmare of trying to get out of them? So

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00:42:12,573 --> 00:42:15,173
Speaker 3: New Zealanders they spend millions of bucks a year on

842
00:42:15,253 --> 00:42:18,453
Speaker 3: these subscription services, including ones they no longer use, and

843
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Speaker 3: they can be, as many people listening would know, can

844
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Speaker 3: be tricky to get out of consumer endz sid The

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00:42:23,493 --> 00:42:26,693
Speaker 3: design of these services meant they often took multiple steps

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Speaker 3: to cancel. It said. Almost thirty percent of people report

847
00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:34,493
Speaker 3: continuing to pay for a service because unsubscribing was too difficult.

848
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Speaker 3: It's research estimated New Zealanders lost more than sixty million

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Speaker 3: dollars a year to dark patterns, including unfair subscription models.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll be interested to one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten and eighty. I think a lot of us now

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00:42:48,973 --> 00:42:51,653
Speaker 2: have this creeping feeling in the back of our heads

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Speaker 2: that were being bled dry by various subscriptions.

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Speaker 21: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And you know we're all looking at getting around to

856
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Speaker 2: an audit on our subscriptions. And there's the ones where

857
00:43:01,973 --> 00:43:05,493
Speaker 2: you go in there and they say first month free,

858
00:43:05,533 --> 00:43:10,973
Speaker 2: and then we'll start charging you, and you mean to

859
00:43:11,013 --> 00:43:13,253
Speaker 2: stop that from happening, but then bang one hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty dollars and then that goes for another year and

861
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Speaker 2: you get banged again, or subscriptions to things that just

862
00:43:18,373 --> 00:43:22,213
Speaker 2: keep rising and rising. I think there is feeling. I

863
00:43:22,293 --> 00:43:24,693
Speaker 2: know it's that I have it that I've got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of subscriptions I don't need, and if I just

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Speaker 2: had some more self control, there was ones that I

866
00:43:29,413 --> 00:43:32,133
Speaker 2: have and use that I could probably live without. Yes,

867
00:43:32,573 --> 00:43:34,693
Speaker 2: I mean we probably some of us are running multiple

868
00:43:34,813 --> 00:43:38,692
Speaker 2: streaming services, right, yeah, so you know, maybe we need

869
00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:41,293
Speaker 2: to just pick one and just deal with what the

870
00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:43,893
Speaker 2: content is there. I mean, when I was growing up

871
00:43:43,893 --> 00:43:46,973
Speaker 2: there was only three television channels, so we didn't.

872
00:43:46,773 --> 00:43:50,413
Speaker 3: Have a lot of Yeah, exactly, But I think, I mean,

873
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:53,653
Speaker 3: whether this is just my situation or it's pretty common.

874
00:43:53,773 --> 00:43:56,773
Speaker 3: I have multiple bank accounts, and when I try and

875
00:43:56,813 --> 00:43:59,293
Speaker 3: do any sort of order to my subscriptions, I don't

876
00:43:59,293 --> 00:44:01,413
Speaker 3: know where to start. I don't actually know where one

877
00:44:01,533 --> 00:44:03,853
Speaker 3: subscription's coming out of with the other ones coming out of.

878
00:44:03,893 --> 00:44:06,253
Speaker 3: I've tried to go through the various accounts because I

879
00:44:06,253 --> 00:44:09,053
Speaker 3: see it pinging up that sixteen bucks for whatever, So

880
00:44:09,133 --> 00:44:10,652
Speaker 3: where the hell is there? How the hell do I

881
00:44:10,693 --> 00:44:13,173
Speaker 3: cancel it? And I can't find any of my accounts.

882
00:44:13,173 --> 00:44:15,213
Speaker 3: It might be in Mave's accounts, is on the credit cards.

883
00:44:15,293 --> 00:44:17,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, And some of these examples were when you very

884
00:44:17,973 --> 00:44:20,652
Speaker 2: easy to sign up, but when you want to get

885
00:44:20,693 --> 00:44:23,333
Speaker 2: out of the subscription subscription, you've got to ring up. Yeah,

886
00:44:23,693 --> 00:44:25,573
Speaker 2: and we've got rules for people that set up these

887
00:44:25,613 --> 00:44:27,893
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. But if you're signing up to some

888
00:44:27,973 --> 00:44:31,172
Speaker 2: overseas thing where there's there's no rules like that, then

889
00:44:31,573 --> 00:44:33,253
Speaker 2: you know you can get locked into something for a

890
00:44:33,333 --> 00:44:35,733
Speaker 2: very long time. Yeah. I mean, just yesterday, there's a

891
00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:38,773
Speaker 2: subscription I've got to something, and I just saw that

892
00:44:38,813 --> 00:44:41,613
Speaker 2: it rolled over. Yep, another one hundred and forty dollars

893
00:44:41,613 --> 00:44:43,413
Speaker 2: for the year. It just rolled over. I haven't used

894
00:44:43,453 --> 00:44:44,293
Speaker 2: it for seven months.

895
00:44:44,413 --> 00:44:45,172
Speaker 3: That's how they get me.

896
00:44:45,213 --> 00:44:46,493
Speaker 2: It's like a cack in the nuts.

897
00:44:46,613 --> 00:44:48,732
Speaker 3: There's a kick in the nuts. Oh, one hundred eighty

898
00:44:48,773 --> 00:44:51,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty is an able to call? Nine to nine two?

899
00:44:51,573 --> 00:44:54,973
Speaker 3: Have you found yourself in some of these subscription subscription traps?

900
00:44:55,173 --> 00:44:57,213
Speaker 3: How hard is it to get out of? And have

901
00:44:57,333 --> 00:44:59,172
Speaker 3: you fallen into the trap of a seven day tri

902
00:44:59,373 --> 00:45:01,053
Speaker 3: you forgot about it and then boom, there's a couple

903
00:45:01,053 --> 00:45:02,413
Speaker 3: of hundred bucks out of your account.

904
00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:05,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you cutting back on subscriptions? And what is

905
00:45:05,893 --> 00:45:08,213
Speaker 2: your technique of doing that? Und eighty teen?

906
00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:11,133
Speaker 3: He beg fory surely, twelve past two.

907
00:45:11,453 --> 00:45:16,053
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call,

908
00:45:16,213 --> 00:45:18,933
Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred eighty gen eighty news talk, said, be.

909
00:45:21,173 --> 00:45:23,973
Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. It is a quarter past too. So

910
00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:28,013
Speaker 3: the subscription online subscriptions are traps are costing New Zealanders

911
00:45:28,213 --> 00:45:31,213
Speaker 3: more than sixteen million bucks a year. The stant that

912
00:45:31,453 --> 00:45:34,093
Speaker 3: I found kind of funny. Almost thirty percent, almost one

913
00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:37,133
Speaker 3: in three people report continuing to pay for a service

914
00:45:37,173 --> 00:45:39,893
Speaker 3: because unsubscribing was too difficult. If that's you, I'd love

915
00:45:39,933 --> 00:45:41,212
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Oh, A one hundred and eighty

916
00:45:41,253 --> 00:45:43,333
Speaker 3: gen eighty. I get that that. If it's too much

917
00:45:43,333 --> 00:45:46,053
Speaker 3: of a theft to try and unsubscribe for something that

918
00:45:46,133 --> 00:45:48,293
Speaker 3: might be costing you, I don't know, let's say fifteen

919
00:45:48,333 --> 00:45:50,613
Speaker 3: bucks a month. You get to a point you say, oh, Dougaret,

920
00:45:50,733 --> 00:45:52,493
Speaker 3: I'll just pay the fifteen bucks. This is too hard?

921
00:45:52,813 --> 00:45:55,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, because do you do an audit as well? So

922
00:45:56,093 --> 00:45:59,413
Speaker 2: you go, I've got this these five like let's just

923
00:45:59,453 --> 00:46:03,173
Speaker 2: say streamers, right or four streamers, three streamers, whatever streamers

924
00:46:03,173 --> 00:46:06,013
Speaker 2: you've got yep. Do you ever go how an order

925
00:46:06,053 --> 00:46:08,333
Speaker 2: on how long since you were last at one of them?

926
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:10,773
Speaker 3: No, but that would be a great thing to do.

927
00:46:10,853 --> 00:46:14,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, because and how much the hardship of paying that

928
00:46:14,333 --> 00:46:17,933
Speaker 2: every month compares to the joy of that one time

929
00:46:17,973 --> 00:46:19,893
Speaker 2: you go in and watch that one series there?

930
00:46:19,973 --> 00:46:22,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how prime video got me. Prime video is fantastic.

931
00:46:22,693 --> 00:46:24,652
Speaker 3: But went in for a seven day trial so I

932
00:46:24,653 --> 00:46:27,213
Speaker 3: could watch my beloved fall Out season two and then

933
00:46:27,253 --> 00:46:30,893
Speaker 3: forgot about it? And again what about prime Video?

934
00:46:30,973 --> 00:46:32,893
Speaker 2: Now? Saying, so you're already paying a subscription, have you've

935
00:46:32,893 --> 00:46:34,973
Speaker 2: seen what they're doing. Now they say, as pay more

936
00:46:36,413 --> 00:46:37,973
Speaker 2: upgrade so you don't get ads.

937
00:46:38,013 --> 00:46:41,013
Speaker 3: The ads are so punishing. It's like a minute thirty

938
00:46:41,053 --> 00:46:43,053
Speaker 3: worth of ads before I watch some movie or fall

939
00:46:43,053 --> 00:46:43,413
Speaker 3: out too.

940
00:46:43,533 --> 00:46:45,613
Speaker 2: That is the incertification. So you sign up to the

941
00:46:45,653 --> 00:46:49,652
Speaker 2: streaming platform you're watching things. Then for the service to

942
00:46:49,733 --> 00:46:53,533
Speaker 2: can continue without ads, you pay more thirty buggins, welcome

943
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:55,253
Speaker 2: to the show. Mark you've got it. You've got a

944
00:46:55,293 --> 00:46:57,933
Speaker 2: way to audit your subscriptions.

945
00:46:59,653 --> 00:47:02,813
Speaker 22: My suggestion is because I've been caught out play so

946
00:47:02,933 --> 00:47:05,853
Speaker 22: far and being charged for stuff that I didn't know

947
00:47:05,933 --> 00:47:08,413
Speaker 22: how to subscribe from. So what I did is I

948
00:47:08,453 --> 00:47:10,533
Speaker 22: just canceled my credit card and got a new one.

949
00:47:10,853 --> 00:47:13,293
Speaker 2: Ah, and then the emails start coming and you find

950
00:47:13,293 --> 00:47:14,853
Speaker 2: out what you've got, and if you don't want it,

951
00:47:14,893 --> 00:47:15,613
Speaker 2: you ignore those.

952
00:47:15,453 --> 00:47:19,413
Speaker 22: Emails because now I've got a new credit card and

953
00:47:19,453 --> 00:47:20,053
Speaker 22: they card try.

954
00:47:21,413 --> 00:47:23,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing in the system, especially if it's an

955
00:47:23,253 --> 00:47:25,853
Speaker 2: overseas company. There's nothing they can do about that. And

956
00:47:27,693 --> 00:47:29,812
Speaker 2: see and then and then and they will, they will

957
00:47:29,813 --> 00:47:32,373
Speaker 2: do the work of reminding you that that you're you know,

958
00:47:32,373 --> 00:47:36,373
Speaker 2: if you've forgotten you've subscribed to something, or if you haven't,

959
00:47:37,093 --> 00:47:39,853
Speaker 2: and if you are not sure you need it, they'll

960
00:47:39,853 --> 00:47:43,053
Speaker 2: do the work because having to resubscribe and re into

961
00:47:43,133 --> 00:47:44,893
Speaker 2: your credit card, you will have to make that decision

962
00:47:44,893 --> 00:47:47,613
Speaker 2: again or and they will not stop to tell you

963
00:47:47,653 --> 00:47:51,453
Speaker 2: that you've unsubscribed. So like even when even when I,

964
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:53,533
Speaker 2: you know, like a change your credit card, they go crazy,

965
00:47:53,533 --> 00:47:56,213
Speaker 2: all the subscription people. The amount of communication for the

966
00:47:56,253 --> 00:47:56,732
Speaker 2: first time.

967
00:47:57,653 --> 00:47:59,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only floor I can see in that mark

968
00:48:00,013 --> 00:48:02,933
Speaker 3: is that attached to my credit card. There's a whole

969
00:48:02,933 --> 00:48:04,773
Speaker 3: bunch of stuff I actually need to pay for, like

970
00:48:04,853 --> 00:48:08,013
Speaker 3: insurance or you know, I can't even think because there's

971
00:48:08,013 --> 00:48:10,053
Speaker 3: so many things there. I don't know if I can

972
00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:12,172
Speaker 3: be bothered with the hassle of actually going back through

973
00:48:12,213 --> 00:48:15,213
Speaker 3: and resigning those things that I generally need, just so

974
00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:20,733
Speaker 3: I can get rid of these punishing subscriptions.

975
00:48:20,973 --> 00:48:23,853
Speaker 22: The you know, it's a plus and the moan of

976
00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:28,093
Speaker 22: or the negative of it all. It depends on your

977
00:48:28,133 --> 00:48:30,853
Speaker 22: own personal circumstances. For me, it was easier just to

978
00:48:30,933 --> 00:48:31,573
Speaker 22: count of the card.

979
00:48:31,933 --> 00:48:34,093
Speaker 2: Yep, you're smart man, Mark, thank you for your call.

980
00:48:34,213 --> 00:48:36,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

981
00:48:36,013 --> 00:48:38,733
Speaker 3: a number to call. Nine two niney two is the text,

982
00:48:39,053 --> 00:48:41,053
Speaker 3: love to hear from you if you've fallen into one

983
00:48:41,053 --> 00:48:43,973
Speaker 3: of these subscription traps, and who are the worst offenders?

984
00:48:45,213 --> 00:48:46,573
Speaker 3: A couple of teachs coming through.

985
00:48:46,853 --> 00:48:49,413
Speaker 2: I swap banks. The unexpected bonus was all the suscriptions

986
00:48:49,533 --> 00:48:51,893
Speaker 2: needed to ask me to renew, which I mostly didn't do.

987
00:48:51,933 --> 00:48:52,813
Speaker 2: That's another way to do it.

988
00:48:52,893 --> 00:48:55,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, another game in the system nine two nine two

989
00:48:55,173 --> 00:48:58,373
Speaker 3: is that text keep sending them through back very shortly.

990
00:48:58,533 --> 00:49:01,333
Speaker 2: It's not called an audit, it's called running a budget.

991
00:49:01,653 --> 00:49:02,413
Speaker 2: And that's a good point.

992
00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:05,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is fair. Eighteen pars to beg very shortly.

993
00:49:09,253 --> 00:49:12,693
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

994
00:49:12,693 --> 00:49:14,652
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talks.

995
00:49:14,413 --> 00:49:20,373
Speaker 3: EDB, News Talks, EDB twenty one pass two. Just watching

996
00:49:20,373 --> 00:49:22,333
Speaker 3: the halftime show at the Super Bowl.

997
00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:25,653
Speaker 2: So it's bad Bunny. How come as shoulders are so broad?

998
00:49:25,773 --> 00:49:27,853
Speaker 2: This bad Bunny. I've never I'm not familiar with this

999
00:49:28,013 --> 00:49:31,373
Speaker 2: bad Bunny. But bad Bunny's got some very broad shoulders.

1000
00:49:31,853 --> 00:49:34,493
Speaker 2: Is he wearing sort of eighties shoulders shoulder pairs or something?

1001
00:49:34,573 --> 00:49:36,652
Speaker 3: He must be his chess can't be that big. I mean,

1002
00:49:36,693 --> 00:49:38,653
Speaker 3: it's out of proportion with the rest of his body.

1003
00:49:38,653 --> 00:49:41,772
Speaker 2: Is he wearing anyway? Pouring for people a for a start?

1004
00:49:41,773 --> 00:49:43,373
Speaker 2: Real football fans don't watch the half time.

1005
00:49:43,453 --> 00:49:46,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, very true. Right back to our discussion

1006
00:49:46,173 --> 00:49:50,373
Speaker 3: about subscription services, So Consumer New Zealand es tomate we

1007
00:49:50,413 --> 00:49:53,373
Speaker 3: lose about sixteen million bucks a year because we can't

1008
00:49:53,373 --> 00:49:55,773
Speaker 3: get out of these subscription services. If that's you, or

1009
00:49:55,813 --> 00:49:57,093
Speaker 3: you figured out a way to do it, love to

1010
00:49:57,133 --> 00:49:58,533
Speaker 3: hear from you. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1011
00:49:58,573 --> 00:50:00,453
Speaker 3: or nine two nine two is the text being.

1012
00:50:00,333 --> 00:50:05,133
Speaker 10: Welcome to the showy cheers. Yeah, I've last for her

1013
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:08,413
Speaker 10: over is at two and a half hour.

1014
00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:13,813
Speaker 2: And bucks on subscriptions you didn't want or subscriptions you couldn't.

1015
00:50:13,453 --> 00:50:19,453
Speaker 10: Cancel subscriptions, both both of them. And also House full

1016
00:50:19,493 --> 00:50:23,933
Speaker 10: of Kids and that PlayStation network. Oh yeah, and they

1017
00:50:23,973 --> 00:50:29,652
Speaker 10: get on there and yeah they'll sign you up two years. Sorry, yeah,

1018
00:50:29,653 --> 00:50:31,973
Speaker 10: I won't sign up to a year subscription. So that's

1019
00:50:31,973 --> 00:50:35,733
Speaker 10: a couple of hundred bucks. And yeah, they'll get in there,

1020
00:50:35,773 --> 00:50:41,373
Speaker 10: and they will also subscribe to certain games and roadblocks

1021
00:50:41,373 --> 00:50:45,693
Speaker 10: and whatnot. Uber Uber one that's called me got me

1022
00:50:46,013 --> 00:50:51,773
Speaker 10: out of about forty bucks at one stage. Yeah, so well,

1023
00:50:51,773 --> 00:50:54,453
Speaker 10: what do I do now though I've got this, I've

1024
00:50:54,453 --> 00:50:57,053
Speaker 10: opened up another account. It's all the money's in one

1025
00:50:57,333 --> 00:51:02,493
Speaker 10: one account that my car can't have access to, and

1026
00:51:02,693 --> 00:51:06,813
Speaker 10: the other account that just sits empty until I need

1027
00:51:06,893 --> 00:51:10,732
Speaker 10: to use it. You know, I just transfer. I'm that going.

1028
00:51:11,093 --> 00:51:13,333
Speaker 10: I'm that guy at the supermarket, at the dairy or

1029
00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:15,933
Speaker 10: whatever that's that's holding.

1030
00:51:15,773 --> 00:51:16,252
Speaker 22: Up the queue.

1031
00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:20,533
Speaker 10: Just quickly transfer some money. Man, Yeah, I'm that guy.

1032
00:51:20,653 --> 00:51:21,573
Speaker 6: But it works.

1033
00:51:21,693 --> 00:51:26,133
Speaker 10: And and yeah, I've I've stopped stopped wasting the money.

1034
00:51:27,693 --> 00:51:27,853
Speaker 18: Have you?

1035
00:51:28,053 --> 00:51:30,733
Speaker 2: Have you removed the ability for your kids use the

1036
00:51:30,813 --> 00:51:33,493
Speaker 2: credit card on the on the PlayStation. That's that's a

1037
00:51:33,533 --> 00:51:38,093
Speaker 2: big one, because then I can Ah, yeah, what about

1038
00:51:38,213 --> 00:51:40,853
Speaker 2: because I can't sign up for skins? That's the the

1039
00:51:41,813 --> 00:51:45,212
Speaker 2: stupidest expense of money. Doesn't make you play the game better,

1040
00:51:45,333 --> 00:51:47,733
Speaker 2: doesn't do anything. But they will pay extra money so

1041
00:51:47,813 --> 00:51:50,212
Speaker 2: the character can look different while we're playing the game.

1042
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:52,653
Speaker 10: Every time I go to jump on you know, I

1043
00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:54,413
Speaker 10: don't care what I'm looking like. I just want to win.

1044
00:51:54,533 --> 00:51:56,533
Speaker 10: But they'll come along and do you want to be Superman?

1045
00:51:56,773 --> 00:51:59,973
Speaker 10: You want to be that's hard case? But am I

1046
00:52:00,093 --> 00:52:05,333
Speaker 10: also got caught out by that and pioneer I do,

1047
00:52:05,453 --> 00:52:09,053
Speaker 10: But jing that and I switched over from the vinyl

1048
00:52:09,533 --> 00:52:12,173
Speaker 10: and I'm over into all the digital stuff now. And

1049
00:52:12,773 --> 00:52:14,652
Speaker 10: these things can hook up the Spotify and they can

1050
00:52:14,733 --> 00:52:18,013
Speaker 10: hook up the title and whatnot. And yeah, I thought

1051
00:52:18,053 --> 00:52:19,973
Speaker 10: that was what I was going to be going to

1052
00:52:19,973 --> 00:52:23,453
Speaker 10: be getting charged for. But title and Spotify also has

1053
00:52:24,653 --> 00:52:30,493
Speaker 10: a it's like a DJ extra add on, right, and

1054
00:52:30,693 --> 00:52:35,413
Speaker 10: when you sign any through your I bought a controller

1055
00:52:36,653 --> 00:52:42,533
Speaker 10: and yeah, basically it just signed me up to this

1056
00:52:42,933 --> 00:52:45,253
Speaker 10: extra and so I didn't realize that I was getting

1057
00:52:45,293 --> 00:52:48,453
Speaker 10: charged another was it another twenty three dollars more a month?

1058
00:52:49,293 --> 00:52:50,893
Speaker 10: So that so, yeah, you've just got to read the

1059
00:52:50,933 --> 00:52:52,373
Speaker 10: small prince. I know at the end of the day

1060
00:52:52,493 --> 00:52:54,533
Speaker 10: you've clipped on it. But yeah, a couple of times

1061
00:52:54,533 --> 00:52:55,213
Speaker 10: I've got hang on.

1062
00:52:56,893 --> 00:52:58,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got on your bend for sorting it out,

1063
00:52:58,933 --> 00:53:01,772
Speaker 2: taking control. Yeah, two grand don't let them bleed you dry.

1064
00:53:01,893 --> 00:53:05,373
Speaker 3: Exactly. The Uber one that speaks to me because quite

1065
00:53:05,413 --> 00:53:07,613
Speaker 3: recently I think may've signed up to a tryal my

1066
00:53:07,733 --> 00:53:10,053
Speaker 3: partner and then I will just sit in a bed

1067
00:53:10,133 --> 00:53:12,933
Speaker 3: and see a ping pop up on the credit card

1068
00:53:13,253 --> 00:53:16,053
Speaker 3: for ninety two dollars. I'm like, maybe what is this

1069
00:53:16,253 --> 00:53:19,053
Speaker 3: ninety two dollars situation. So I've got no idea go

1070
00:53:19,213 --> 00:53:20,933
Speaker 3: through all your apps on your phone because it's got

1071
00:53:20,973 --> 00:53:22,733
Speaker 3: to be something. And I said Uber you likee that

1072
00:53:22,813 --> 00:53:24,813
Speaker 3: it was some sort of Uber trip. Turned out she'd

1073
00:53:24,853 --> 00:53:27,573
Speaker 3: signed up for a year of Uber one, which is

1074
00:53:27,653 --> 00:53:30,453
Speaker 3: tricky because now I'm thinking that's a massive waste of money.

1075
00:53:30,493 --> 00:53:32,373
Speaker 3: But what are we to do? We spent ninety two dollars,

1076
00:53:32,853 --> 00:53:36,053
Speaker 3: So now it makes me want to use uber eats

1077
00:53:36,093 --> 00:53:38,292
Speaker 3: a bit more because we've already paid the ninety two bucks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, And does the paying for the Uber one uber

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Speaker 2: one lower your expenses so you now have to earn

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Speaker 2: that money back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, try and get some value from the operation.

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Speaker 2: If you have an iPhone, says this textown regularly go

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Speaker 2: into your Apple account under settings. You can easily see

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Speaker 2: all your subscriptions there and cancel when you want, super easy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you've signed up on Apple for the subscriptions, then

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Speaker 2: go in there and have a look at your subscriptions

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Speaker 2: and immediately delete all of them instantly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, because you didn't really need them.

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00:54:06,973 --> 00:54:09,133
Speaker 2: They got you at a week moment. Ye, you signed up.

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Speaker 2: You thought it was going to make your life better.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't get.

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Speaker 3: Out Another question, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eight.

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Speaker 3: I love to hear from you. But another question. So

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Speaker 3: I quite often get stung by the troll periods on

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Speaker 3: the apps, and it's a bit of a health kick

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Speaker 3: this year. Right, So I downloaded all these health apps,

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Speaker 3: signed up for the seven day trial, and now I

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Speaker 3: forgot about it and they've lumped me with about three

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Speaker 3: hundred bucks worth of subscriptions.

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Speaker 6: Is that on me?

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Speaker 3: Or is that on the company being tricky? Because I

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00:54:33,733 --> 00:54:35,933
Speaker 3: knew it was a seven day trial, and I knew

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Speaker 3: I had seven days to figure out whether I liked

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Speaker 3: it before the money came out of my account. Have

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Speaker 3: I got any right to go back to them and say,

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Speaker 3: hang on a minute, it was a seven day trial,

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Speaker 3: but you did me dirty here. I want my money back.

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Speaker 2: But that's their whole game. So if you go to

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Speaker 2: them and say that, I mean, I'm sure if you

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00:54:51,813 --> 00:54:54,212
Speaker 2: kept pushing it long enough that they'd shutt it. They'd go, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we don't want this piss because of whatever. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: that's their whole game. You're not paying anything now, just

1114
00:54:59,213 --> 00:55:02,413
Speaker 2: try it out and then do everything they can to

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00:55:02,493 --> 00:55:04,453
Speaker 2: make you forget that you've done it, so you just

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Speaker 2: keep paying forever.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Spot On nineteen ninety two is the Ticks headlines with

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Speaker 3: rayleag coming up and taking more of your cause back.

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Speaker 17: Surely you's talk said be headlines with your Ride, New

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Speaker 17: Zealand's number one taxi app.

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Speaker 18: Download your Ride today. The christ Church moss terrorists told

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Speaker 18: in appeal court he wasn't mentally fit to confess to

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Speaker 18: murder when he pleaded guilty and any past or remorse

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Speaker 18: was irrational. A five day hearings begun in Wellington. Environmentalists

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Speaker 18: are calling for more permanent rulings on seabed mining after

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Speaker 18: the Fast Track Panels given a draft decision to deny

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Speaker 18: a thirty year proposal to mind fifty million tons of

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Speaker 18: seabed a year in South Taranaki because of the threat

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Speaker 18: to birds and dolphins. A senior Navy officer is pleaded

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Speaker 18: not guilty in a court martial at Auckland's Devenport Naval

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Speaker 18: Base to charges of alleged misconduct towards a junior officer.

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Speaker 18: Despite the government last week annancing the final full license

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Speaker 18: test is going saving drivers eighty dollars. It may be temporary.

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Speaker 18: N ZTA is doing a wider funding review you and

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Speaker 18: says it currently doesn't recover the costs of administering driving tests.

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Speaker 18: Veteran minor Robert Brand targets and z X listing and

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Speaker 18: plans to raise eighty million dollars from investors. You can

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Speaker 18: find out more at INDs and here or premium. Now

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Speaker 18: back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thanks you very much. Roelane. Talking about subscription services, how

1142
00:56:28,213 --> 00:56:29,692
Speaker 3: hard is it to get out of some of these?

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00:56:30,373 --> 00:56:30,573
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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00:56:30,853 --> 00:56:32,853
Speaker 2: And I mean, as a bunch of people are pointing out,

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00:56:33,093 --> 00:56:35,613
Speaker 2: you know, when you think of subscriptions, there's different types.

1146
00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:38,573
Speaker 2: You know, what is it, you know, magazine streaming services.

1147
00:56:38,653 --> 00:56:40,373
Speaker 2: But now if you're trying to buy some kind of

1148
00:56:40,893 --> 00:56:43,373
Speaker 2: health supplement, they always they want you because they've worked

1149
00:56:43,373 --> 00:56:44,293
Speaker 2: out that's the way to make money.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it called Rundle's recur I can't remember

1152
00:56:49,253 --> 00:56:52,333
Speaker 2: what rundle stands for, but every company wants a recurring

1153
00:56:52,413 --> 00:56:55,013
Speaker 2: revenue model. Yep, right, Well, so you meet you, so

1154
00:56:55,133 --> 00:56:56,533
Speaker 2: they sign up. They don't want you just to have

1155
00:56:56,613 --> 00:56:59,573
Speaker 2: to make that decision multiple times, because if say you

1156
00:56:59,733 --> 00:57:03,212
Speaker 2: buy some kind of punishing supplement, you buy it once,

1157
00:57:03,693 --> 00:57:05,333
Speaker 2: manage to get you over the line at that point.

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00:57:05,573 --> 00:57:05,772
Speaker 3: Yep.

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00:57:06,133 --> 00:57:09,213
Speaker 2: Then doing that every month, you won't eventually go I

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00:57:09,213 --> 00:57:10,853
Speaker 2: don't want to pay this money anymore. But if they

1161
00:57:10,893 --> 00:57:13,772
Speaker 2: sign you up to a subscription, it becomes automatic. Then

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00:57:13,893 --> 00:57:15,573
Speaker 2: you pay for the stuff over and over and over

1163
00:57:15,573 --> 00:57:17,733
Speaker 2: and over and over again without making a decision exactly.

1164
00:57:17,773 --> 00:57:19,733
Speaker 2: That that's why, that's why they want it. But yeah,

1165
00:57:19,813 --> 00:57:21,773
Speaker 2: so everything now is looking for a subscription.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Nine nine two is the text number. Get a Greek?

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00:57:26,453 --> 00:57:27,253
Speaker 3: Are you there again?

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Speaker 6: Those things? First, you never ever use your would they

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00:57:31,013 --> 00:57:34,973
Speaker 6: call it debbit? Direct debit? Never use a direct debit

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Speaker 6: on anything, only an ap But I probably ten or

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Speaker 6: fifteen years a country problem going, I hit my first

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Speaker 6: kindle and I hid an account.

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Speaker 2: So just just before we go back for seeing their Greeks.

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Speaker 2: A direct debit as where you give the details and

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00:57:48,453 --> 00:57:51,613
Speaker 2: they they pull money, They pull it from your account,

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00:57:51,893 --> 00:57:54,813
Speaker 2: as opposed to an automatic payment where you can control

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00:57:54,853 --> 00:57:57,453
Speaker 2: it from online and you can shut it down. Yeah, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 2: a greed technic.

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Speaker 6: They can steal all your money. They say they won't,

1180
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Speaker 6: but they can. And I've gone through the whole process

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Speaker 6: with the onoodsman and the banking people. Anyway, I signed

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Speaker 6: up for Amazon because I had a kindle when I

1183
00:58:11,293 --> 00:58:13,973
Speaker 6: used to buy lots and lots of books, and my

1184
00:58:14,053 --> 00:58:16,333
Speaker 6: wife had questioned every month, well I spending money on books?

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Speaker 6: I mean I wanted to watch A Reacher. So it's

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Speaker 6: season four now, so it's four years ago, and I

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Speaker 6: couldn't sign up, and I couldn't sign up, and none

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Speaker 6: of us knew what we were doing. So I've got

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Speaker 6: my brother around his pretty and he said, you've been

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Speaker 6: signed up for four years or three years to Amazon

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Speaker 6: Prime and I didn't even know. And it's not luckily,

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Speaker 6: it's only eight dollars a not and I was buying

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Speaker 6: books on top of that. But my wife questioned it regularly.

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Speaker 6: But I just bought some books to smoke. That's all right.

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Speaker 20: I think.

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Speaker 6: From that going forward, we only ever any of our

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Speaker 6: subscriptions only AP so if you don't want to pay them,

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Speaker 6: you just to pay them and then they cancel it,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean so, but you will give

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Speaker 2: you a credit card. Details what I'm saying. So, I mean, like,

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Speaker 2: so to sign I.

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Speaker 6: Did then nothing else?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Not now?

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Speaker 10: So there all right?

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Speaker 2: So that is it quite often an ability just to

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Speaker 2: set up a payment from your bank.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't look, I'm not hunding seen sugars it w

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure that's what she does, because we don't.

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Speaker 6: We have never known any direct debitson never will but Ken,

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Speaker 6: some people don't want to have aps because they can't

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Speaker 6: control your money. But you know so, I think most

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Speaker 6: of theirs mostly. I think the Amazon one's still on

1215
00:59:34,093 --> 00:59:37,213
Speaker 6: my credit card. But now that my wife knows what

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Speaker 6: it is, she doesn't get grumpy with me.

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Speaker 2: But on a side note, how good is Breacher? A

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00:59:42,413 --> 00:59:42,973
Speaker 2: great series?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really I really enjoyed it, but getting to

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Speaker 6: watch the first episode was quite fromatic because it took

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Speaker 6: a long time to figure out that I was really signed.

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Speaker 2: Up to them and Baugh, I just go and watch

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Speaker 2: on YouTube. I'll go and just watch the reach of fights. Yeah,

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00:59:57,013 --> 00:59:59,053
Speaker 2: because all the fights across the whole series where you

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Speaker 2: know someone's arrogant and he beats the crap out of them.

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Speaker 2: I just watched those over and over again. And also

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Speaker 2: the other ones I get watching all the time is

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Speaker 2: Denzel washing and beating the crap while killing people. When

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Speaker 2: the Equalizer series, Oh great series, that's all my feet

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Speaker 2: on YouTubers as just the action scenes from movies.

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Speaker 3: When he puts on the Wee stop Watch nothing like It. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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Speaker 3: if you want to send a Ticks nineteen ninet two.

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Speaker 2: A free trial should not require a diibit or credit card. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: see that's the thing. You know that this squirrelly because

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01:00:26,453 --> 01:00:28,573
Speaker 2: of that. Yep, because they go sign up for the

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01:00:28,653 --> 01:00:30,333
Speaker 2: free trial, but you need to put your credit card

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01:00:30,413 --> 01:00:35,133
Speaker 2: in now. They should. They should say here's a true

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01:00:35,213 --> 01:00:36,853
Speaker 2: free trial. We'll get back to you in seven days,

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01:00:36,853 --> 01:00:38,693
Speaker 2: and if you've loved it, then let's talk about the

1241
01:00:38,893 --> 01:00:39,813
Speaker 2: payment going forward.

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01:00:39,933 --> 01:00:41,693
Speaker 3: That would be nice. It'd be really nice.

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01:00:41,733 --> 01:00:43,093
Speaker 2: That would be the honest way to go about it.

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Speaker 3: Will you right, got to play some messages, but when

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Speaker 3: we come back, we're taking more of your calls. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. How do you deal with

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01:00:49,693 --> 01:00:52,773
Speaker 3: these subscription traps? It is twenty five to three.

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Speaker 1: A fresh take on took Back Matt Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons with Scoter pleasecter codes every day at scoter

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Speaker 1: dot co dot nz head have your say on eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Eighty ten eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 3: B twenty two to three. We're talking about subscription services

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01:01:09,493 --> 01:01:13,053
Speaker 3: that you get trapped by because it's too hard to unsubscribe.

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01:01:13,133 --> 01:01:15,813
Speaker 3: One in three key we say they just keep paying

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01:01:15,853 --> 01:01:17,653
Speaker 3: for a service because it was too difficult to get

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01:01:17,733 --> 01:01:19,293
Speaker 3: rid of it. That's you love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eight ten eighty Brian, Welcome to

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01:01:21,613 --> 01:01:21,933
Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi, how hey. I've found when I've logged up

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Speaker 4: for their subscriptions where they give the option to pay

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01:01:30,613 --> 01:01:34,213
Speaker 4: with PayPal. It's a very simple matter. Ar you've used

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01:01:34,213 --> 01:01:36,693
Speaker 4: the service, just go in and just delete that from

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Speaker 4: the PayPal at right.

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Speaker 3: So talk to me more about PayPal. I've never used it.

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01:01:41,653 --> 01:01:43,733
Speaker 3: I know it's very common, but how does it actually work.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty good. You can you load your credit card

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01:01:48,013 --> 01:01:52,733
Speaker 4: details into that and when you pay PayPal, that pays

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01:01:53,413 --> 01:01:57,093
Speaker 4: the end user doesn't get your credit card details. The

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Speaker 4: good thing with PayPal is if something goes wrong with

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Speaker 4: the transaction, you can within forty five days make a

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01:02:03,773 --> 01:02:06,573
Speaker 4: complacent PayPal and they'll actually repay you what you pay.

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Speaker 3: So right, even with a you've signed up to a

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01:02:09,293 --> 01:02:11,933
Speaker 3: subscription service and I've done you dirty, and it was

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01:02:11,933 --> 01:02:14,093
Speaker 3: a trial period and that they keep steeing you. You

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01:02:14,173 --> 01:02:15,813
Speaker 3: can go to PayPal and say, hey, I don't think

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01:02:15,813 --> 01:02:17,173
Speaker 3: this is right, and they'll stop the payments.

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Speaker 4: I don't know so much about that. I do know

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01:02:20,733 --> 01:02:23,293
Speaker 4: this with regards to items you might have purchased from

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Speaker 4: AI Express or other places. With that, it's usually with

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01:02:27,933 --> 01:02:29,413
Speaker 4: regards to items that you've asked to.

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Speaker 1: Be sent to you.

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Speaker 4: But I've flowed with the subscriptions. I mean I did

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Speaker 4: one just recently, this here. I signed up that christ

1284
01:02:40,533 --> 01:02:43,613
Speaker 4: bought the item, and then realized there was a subscription

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01:02:43,773 --> 01:02:45,893
Speaker 4: that taxed hers. I just suddenly went to PayPal and

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01:02:45,933 --> 01:02:50,013
Speaker 4: canceled it, and then got the requisite reminder, Oh you

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01:02:50,093 --> 01:02:52,693
Speaker 4: haven't paid your subscription. You're going to lose all your

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01:02:52,733 --> 01:02:54,613
Speaker 4: benefits if you don't pay it. But I just ignore

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Speaker 4: them soon.

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Speaker 3: It seem smart having a middle man like PayPal. Do

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01:02:58,773 --> 01:03:00,573
Speaker 3: you have to pay them money or is that on

1292
01:03:00,773 --> 01:03:02,733
Speaker 3: the other side. How do they get their money?

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01:03:03,853 --> 01:03:06,413
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how they do, but no, it doesn't

1294
01:03:06,453 --> 01:03:08,133
Speaker 4: cost anything to be signed up PayPal.

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01:03:08,413 --> 01:03:12,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, PayPal just can't clip the ticket on every every purchase.

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01:03:12,413 --> 01:03:14,973
Speaker 4: I presume. I presume they cut the ticket.

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01:03:14,773 --> 01:03:17,373
Speaker 2: Somehow, A little clipping here and there, but it adds up.

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01:03:18,773 --> 01:03:23,573
Speaker 4: Yes, I've I've used well, I consistently use it. And generally,

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01:03:23,613 --> 01:03:25,733
Speaker 4: if I'm buying an I Cam overseas, I will never

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01:03:25,773 --> 01:03:28,773
Speaker 4: give my credit card details. I always use PayPal, and

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01:03:28,853 --> 01:03:32,293
Speaker 4: if the PayPal option isn't there, I don't, I don't,

1302
01:03:32,413 --> 01:03:33,653
Speaker 4: I don't pay you, I don't buy.

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01:03:34,013 --> 01:03:37,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, PayPal will go check that out. But

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01:03:37,493 --> 01:03:39,533
Speaker 3: that's a good tip, Brian. Thank you very much, mate,

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01:03:39,653 --> 01:03:42,973
Speaker 3: You have a good afternoon. Oh one hundred and eighty

1306
01:03:43,053 --> 01:03:45,453
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call, love to hear

1307
01:03:45,533 --> 01:03:47,693
Speaker 3: from you. Jeremy, how are you, mate?

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01:03:49,053 --> 01:03:49,813
Speaker 6: Very well, thank you.

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01:03:50,573 --> 01:03:54,813
Speaker 9: It's down the worst defenders. And for me, when I'm

1310
01:03:54,853 --> 01:03:57,533
Speaker 9: doom scrolling, I see something online that I like, I'm like, oh,

1311
01:03:57,693 --> 01:03:59,453
Speaker 9: that's a bit of me, and then it makes you

1312
01:03:59,533 --> 01:04:00,333
Speaker 9: download the app.

1313
01:04:00,573 --> 01:04:02,733
Speaker 4: So you download the app and then you have to

1314
01:04:02,853 --> 01:04:05,453
Speaker 4: punch those to use the old meat mittens and punch

1315
01:04:05,533 --> 01:04:08,093
Speaker 4: in the allow buttons one hundred percent of me problem.

1316
01:04:08,413 --> 01:04:10,853
Speaker 4: But then you end up with about three thousand applications,

1317
01:04:10,893 --> 01:04:12,693
Speaker 4: which is doing a whole lot of stuff in the background,

1318
01:04:12,773 --> 01:04:15,853
Speaker 4: sending you about four million emails. I found though, the

1319
01:04:15,933 --> 01:04:19,853
Speaker 4: worst defender is Spotify because and if you a for

1320
01:04:19,933 --> 01:04:23,093
Speaker 4: Spotify through a third party provider for example spot for

1321
01:04:23,253 --> 01:04:26,813
Speaker 4: example Spark. So I had the issue where I wanted

1322
01:04:26,853 --> 01:04:30,853
Speaker 4: to cancel my Spotify. It was paid through through Spark.

1323
01:04:31,213 --> 01:04:33,133
Speaker 4: I run Spark and they said I need to act

1324
01:04:33,133 --> 01:04:36,893
Speaker 4: through through Spotify. I go on the app to Spotify

1325
01:04:36,933 --> 01:04:38,373
Speaker 4: and it says, oh, you can't do that in the app,

1326
01:04:38,453 --> 01:04:40,453
Speaker 4: you need to do it on their website. So using

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01:04:40,493 --> 01:04:41,973
Speaker 4: my phone, I go try to go on to your

1328
01:04:41,973 --> 01:04:44,253
Speaker 4: website and it redirects me back to the app. And

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01:04:44,373 --> 01:04:48,373
Speaker 4: I'm still paying for Spotify months months because it's just

1330
01:04:48,453 --> 01:04:48,973
Speaker 4: weight too hard.

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01:04:48,973 --> 01:04:51,933
Speaker 9: I don't have a laptop. I can't unsubscribe from it

1332
01:04:52,013 --> 01:04:54,573
Speaker 9: because they make it way too difficult. But like I say,

1333
01:04:54,613 --> 01:04:58,373
Speaker 9: those third parts right, So you're paying through Spark, and

1334
01:04:58,453 --> 01:05:00,533
Speaker 9: then Spark says, I know that for Spotify things.

1335
01:05:01,133 --> 01:05:04,453
Speaker 2: So when you sign up to to because I see

1336
01:05:04,493 --> 01:05:06,173
Speaker 2: these around I'm not sure which company is, but it

1337
01:05:06,213 --> 01:05:10,693
Speaker 2: says sign up and get three months Spotify free. But

1338
01:05:10,853 --> 01:05:12,693
Speaker 2: that is you get three months spot by three and

1339
01:05:12,773 --> 01:05:14,293
Speaker 2: then it just keeps rolling on in your account.

1340
01:05:15,573 --> 01:05:17,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, and well, and it's done through the Spark accounts.

1341
01:05:17,893 --> 01:05:20,853
Speaker 9: So for example, out of my Spark account comes Spotify.

1342
01:05:20,933 --> 01:05:23,733
Speaker 9: So I ring up Spark to cancel the Spotify and

1343
01:05:23,813 --> 01:05:25,013
Speaker 9: they say, oh, I know you need to do that

1344
01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:28,413
Speaker 9: through the Spotify, So go onto Spotify hat you can

1345
01:05:28,493 --> 01:05:31,173
Speaker 9: do that, but you have to do that through their website.

1346
01:05:31,373 --> 01:05:33,333
Speaker 9: And then because I don't have a laptop, I go

1347
01:05:33,453 --> 01:05:36,573
Speaker 9: onto the website on my phone, but that directs me.

1348
01:05:36,613 --> 01:05:41,573
Speaker 6: Back through the app. It's just an ending, never ending cycle.

1349
01:05:41,213 --> 01:05:43,333
Speaker 9: Of crap that you have to go through, and I'm

1350
01:05:43,333 --> 01:05:43,973
Speaker 9: still paying for it.

1351
01:05:44,733 --> 01:05:45,693
Speaker 6: I'd like to understand me.

1352
01:05:45,773 --> 01:05:47,213
Speaker 9: Bob might just need to find a laptop.

1353
01:05:48,373 --> 01:05:49,853
Speaker 3: That's how they get you though, just to make your

1354
01:05:49,893 --> 01:05:52,733
Speaker 3: jump through. Borrow mine Jeremy, Yeah, yeah, exactly. We'll loan

1355
01:05:52,813 --> 01:05:54,613
Speaker 3: your one oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1356
01:05:54,733 --> 01:05:56,333
Speaker 3: is and number to call. I haven't said this yet,

1357
01:05:56,373 --> 01:05:58,093
Speaker 3: but there, I'm sure there's a lot of people that

1358
01:05:58,213 --> 01:06:00,173
Speaker 3: had this issue. I don't know if I'll name them, No,

1359
01:06:00,173 --> 01:06:02,973
Speaker 3: I won't. It was a food service delivery operation here

1360
01:06:03,053 --> 01:06:05,813
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. They're still operating, but they've been slammed

1361
01:06:05,893 --> 01:06:09,173
Speaker 3: with some fines recently, but that was one of them.

1362
01:06:09,253 --> 01:06:11,173
Speaker 3: Can I say who it is? I'm sure it's been

1363
01:06:11,253 --> 01:06:14,373
Speaker 3: out there. Yeah, buger, I'm gonna say Hello Fresh. So

1364
01:06:14,493 --> 01:06:16,453
Speaker 3: we signed up with Hello Fresh and it was pretty decent,

1365
01:06:16,533 --> 01:06:18,933
Speaker 3: good food. But when we did about six months and

1366
01:06:19,013 --> 01:06:23,173
Speaker 3: realized I'm swimming in these recipes. I've got all this

1367
01:06:23,333 --> 01:06:25,493
Speaker 3: grain that I haven't used, so it's time to end,

1368
01:06:25,573 --> 01:06:28,293
Speaker 3: it ended it and the money kept coming out of

1369
01:06:28,333 --> 01:06:30,413
Speaker 3: the accounts. So I had to wring them and say, hey,

1370
01:06:30,453 --> 01:06:34,053
Speaker 3: you're still charging us. We are not getting any food parcels.

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01:06:34,093 --> 01:06:36,333
Speaker 3: What's going on here? Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, that's an

1372
01:06:36,333 --> 01:06:39,093
Speaker 3: issue on our parts. Then they canceled it two months later,

1373
01:06:39,493 --> 01:06:43,253
Speaker 3: re signed without any communication, and we ended up continuing

1374
01:06:43,293 --> 01:06:45,093
Speaker 3: to pay. It was a massive plava to try and

1375
01:06:45,133 --> 01:06:45,733
Speaker 3: get the money back.

1376
01:06:45,853 --> 01:06:47,333
Speaker 2: So did they give you the money back for the

1377
01:06:47,773 --> 01:06:49,973
Speaker 2: food that didn't arrive but then in the end, but

1378
01:06:50,053 --> 01:06:52,893
Speaker 2: then did the hellow Fresh just start arriving and you

1379
01:06:52,973 --> 01:06:55,853
Speaker 2: were paying for it again? Just miraculously start up again.

1380
01:06:55,973 --> 01:06:56,173
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1381
01:06:56,333 --> 01:06:59,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got me back into the subscription. So I'd

1382
01:06:59,573 --> 01:07:01,053
Speaker 3: love to hear. I mean, if you were on the

1383
01:07:01,133 --> 01:07:03,493
Speaker 3: Hello Fresh spaandwagon one hundred and eighty ten eighty or

1384
01:07:03,533 --> 01:07:04,133
Speaker 3: nine two nine.

1385
01:07:04,053 --> 01:07:07,613
Speaker 2: Two the sixers agree with the current caller PayPal, I

1386
01:07:07,813 --> 01:07:12,333
Speaker 2: have canceled descriptions with PayPal very very easy, chairs Linda,

1387
01:07:12,453 --> 01:07:14,853
Speaker 2: So sort of having that buffer between you and the

1388
01:07:14,933 --> 01:07:18,493
Speaker 2: people involved. Hey, guys, similar to the guys speaking now.

1389
01:07:18,533 --> 01:07:21,413
Speaker 2: I have a specific debit card attached with specific accounts

1390
01:07:21,413 --> 01:07:23,013
Speaker 2: which has no more than one hundred in it at

1391
01:07:23,053 --> 01:07:25,693
Speaker 2: a time, so I can't be burnt by scams. And

1392
01:07:25,813 --> 01:07:28,333
Speaker 2: as for subscriptions only, this is different to the credit

1393
01:07:28,413 --> 01:07:30,613
Speaker 2: card that pays mortgagees bills. Once a year, I cancel

1394
01:07:30,653 --> 01:07:33,373
Speaker 2: the card and get a new one to refresh the subscriptions.

1395
01:07:33,413 --> 01:07:36,853
Speaker 2: I don't need cheers, Greg, Yeah. And then if you're

1396
01:07:36,853 --> 01:07:41,533
Speaker 2: having to move the money across to pay the subscriptions,

1397
01:07:42,173 --> 01:07:45,293
Speaker 2: then you experience because the way subscriptions work is they

1398
01:07:45,413 --> 01:07:48,133
Speaker 2: automize it. You make one decision, it's automized, and so

1399
01:07:48,213 --> 01:07:50,293
Speaker 2: you don't feel it coming out of you account every day.

1400
01:07:50,333 --> 01:07:52,453
Speaker 2: I mean, you have a general vibe that you're broke,

1401
01:07:53,053 --> 01:07:55,573
Speaker 2: but you're not she really sure why it's happening. But

1402
01:07:55,653 --> 01:07:58,133
Speaker 2: if you're having to physically put that money into that

1403
01:07:58,253 --> 01:08:01,973
Speaker 2: other account, then you are feeling every single payment. Because

1404
01:08:01,973 --> 01:08:04,613
Speaker 2: people think say that even with f pos right swiping

1405
01:08:04,653 --> 01:08:06,133
Speaker 2: a card or paying with your credit card, you know

1406
01:08:06,853 --> 01:08:09,453
Speaker 2: doesn't feel the same as it when you were you know,

1407
01:08:10,333 --> 01:08:12,213
Speaker 2: you know, counting out cash that you got out from

1408
01:08:12,293 --> 01:08:12,973
Speaker 2: a money machine.

1409
01:08:13,173 --> 01:08:15,493
Speaker 3: Very true because you found you felt it. Yeah, that

1410
01:08:15,653 --> 01:08:16,572
Speaker 3: physical a lot more.

1411
01:08:16,733 --> 01:08:18,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're paying two hundred and fifty dollars

1412
01:08:18,532 --> 01:08:20,612
Speaker 2: for dinner and you were counting out twenties.

1413
01:08:22,053 --> 01:08:22,492
Speaker 20: That hurt.

1414
01:08:22,653 --> 01:08:24,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good text here. Get our guys. As

1415
01:08:24,772 --> 01:08:26,772
Speaker 3: a business owner, we don't actually use PayPal as the

1416
01:08:26,812 --> 01:08:29,692
Speaker 3: customer gets the goods and then claims a refund. PayPal

1417
01:08:29,812 --> 01:08:32,013
Speaker 3: then doesn't pay you and you've lost the goods. When

1418
01:08:32,013 --> 01:08:34,253
Speaker 3: you try to talk to PayPal, there is no human

1419
01:08:34,333 --> 01:08:36,133
Speaker 3: to talk to and you were going round and round

1420
01:08:36,213 --> 01:08:39,933
Speaker 3: with a bot. PayPal is cramp from Joel. So I

1421
01:08:39,933 --> 01:08:42,412
Speaker 3: suppose on the business side of things for some people,

1422
01:08:42,532 --> 01:08:43,812
Speaker 3: PayPal good for the consumer.

1423
01:08:44,293 --> 01:08:47,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stixer says, Tyler, are you from the bronze

1424
01:08:47,213 --> 01:08:48,772
Speaker 2: age not knowing what PayPal is?

1425
01:08:48,893 --> 01:08:49,973
Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like I am.

1426
01:08:50,093 --> 01:08:53,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, PayPal is what got elon Muskritch. Yes, I did

1427
01:08:53,853 --> 01:08:56,772
Speaker 2: know that part, but I've never They were early that

1428
01:08:57,133 --> 01:09:00,493
Speaker 2: when there wasn't a lot of other ways to pay online.

1429
01:09:01,133 --> 01:09:03,612
Speaker 2: They were one of the first secure ways to pay

1430
01:09:03,652 --> 01:09:05,692
Speaker 2: online with credit cards. When it was a wild weste

1431
01:09:05,692 --> 01:09:07,492
Speaker 2: out there and you didn't want to throw it onto

1432
01:09:07,812 --> 01:09:10,333
Speaker 2: whatever colin you came across. Yeah, so they jumped in

1433
01:09:10,412 --> 01:09:14,133
Speaker 2: there before you know, other people got involved and made

1434
01:09:14,133 --> 01:09:15,612
Speaker 2: it so they made an absolute man.

1435
01:09:15,973 --> 01:09:17,612
Speaker 3: He sold it, didn't he and he used that money

1436
01:09:17,652 --> 01:09:20,772
Speaker 3: to start up Tesla. Very smart guy. But yeah, I

1437
01:09:20,853 --> 01:09:23,133
Speaker 3: mean when I've seen PayPal before, I just I look

1438
01:09:23,173 --> 01:09:25,372
Speaker 3: at it as something maybe I can't trust as much

1439
01:09:25,412 --> 01:09:27,452
Speaker 3: as a credit card, if that makes sense. I just

1440
01:09:27,492 --> 01:09:29,933
Speaker 3: see this this international thing called PayPal. I kind of

1441
01:09:30,013 --> 01:09:32,093
Speaker 3: get what it is, but I don't know this part

1442
01:09:32,133 --> 01:09:33,692
Speaker 3: of me that says, can I trust those guys with

1443
01:09:33,772 --> 01:09:34,213
Speaker 3: my credit card?

1444
01:09:34,213 --> 01:09:35,133
Speaker 2: It seems like a bit of a pain in the

1445
01:09:35,173 --> 01:09:37,852
Speaker 2: butt to me. When I get involved in that, I'm

1446
01:09:37,933 --> 01:09:40,052
Speaker 2: just like, I just want to you know, my laptop

1447
01:09:40,133 --> 01:09:42,093
Speaker 2: remembers my credit card details of just fire it through.

1448
01:09:42,933 --> 01:09:44,612
Speaker 2: I do the trials. But the second I signed up,

1449
01:09:44,652 --> 01:09:47,012
Speaker 2: I set up a reminder and alert on my phone

1450
01:09:47,053 --> 01:09:49,012
Speaker 2: to cancel it before we news. Jeers Kim.

1451
01:09:49,213 --> 01:09:51,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a smart move. Oh wait, one hundred eighty

1452
01:09:51,412 --> 01:09:53,333
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call love to hear

1453
01:09:53,372 --> 01:09:55,892
Speaker 3: what you've subscribed to. And you've just let it run

1454
01:09:55,893 --> 01:09:57,892
Speaker 3: because it's too much of a hassle to get rid

1455
01:09:57,893 --> 01:10:00,013
Speaker 3: of it nine two ninety two is that text as well?

1456
01:10:00,053 --> 01:10:01,412
Speaker 3: It is thirteen to three.

1457
01:10:02,213 --> 01:10:04,572
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1458
01:10:04,652 --> 01:10:08,293
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

1459
01:10:10,812 --> 01:10:13,173
Speaker 3: News talks' be it is ten to three. So we're

1460
01:10:13,173 --> 01:10:16,173
Speaker 3: talking about subscription services that you get trapped into. Turns

1461
01:10:16,173 --> 01:10:19,933
Speaker 3: out one in three New Zealanders have just rolled on

1462
01:10:20,053 --> 01:10:21,972
Speaker 3: a service even if they don't use it, because it's

1463
01:10:21,973 --> 01:10:25,412
Speaker 3: too punishing to unsubscribe. Paul, how are you?

1464
01:10:26,853 --> 01:10:27,412
Speaker 6: I'm very well.

1465
01:10:27,492 --> 01:10:30,253
Speaker 3: How are you very good? Can you hear your story?

1466
01:10:31,372 --> 01:10:35,093
Speaker 23: Yeah, my wife accidentally bought a dress online in Australia

1467
01:10:35,213 --> 01:10:39,892
Speaker 23: that the website turned out to be fraudulent but sing

1468
01:10:40,013 --> 01:10:42,892
Speaker 23: legit at the time, and when when it got charged

1469
01:10:42,933 --> 01:10:46,572
Speaker 23: through to the credit card and everything and nothing arrived

1470
01:10:46,612 --> 01:10:53,692
Speaker 23: in the courier, it was builders a subscription. And because

1471
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:56,053
Speaker 23: it was subscription when she purchased that she didn't need

1472
01:10:56,652 --> 01:10:59,133
Speaker 23: didn't have to put in the security code of the card,

1473
01:10:59,893 --> 01:11:03,333
Speaker 23: and when it never turned up to go and.

1474
01:11:05,173 --> 01:11:06,213
Speaker 14: Get the charged.

1475
01:11:08,492 --> 01:11:12,173
Speaker 23: Reimbursed, they couldn't do it because it was subscription. It

1476
01:11:12,293 --> 01:11:16,173
Speaker 23: wasn't a purchase of a product. And so what they had,

1477
01:11:16,333 --> 01:11:17,972
Speaker 23: what we had to do in the long story short

1478
01:11:18,093 --> 01:11:21,452
Speaker 23: was just cut up the credit card, cancel the account,

1479
01:11:21,652 --> 01:11:25,093
Speaker 23: and started to get a new credit card isss from

1480
01:11:25,133 --> 01:11:30,012
Speaker 23: the bank. So, yeah, subscriptions can be very, very dangerous.

1481
01:11:30,812 --> 01:11:32,812
Speaker 23: But on the other thing is that the amount of

1482
01:11:32,933 --> 01:11:35,812
Speaker 23: the subscription being charged to the card when she bought

1483
01:11:35,853 --> 01:11:38,772
Speaker 23: the dress for one hundred dollars the second week they

1484
01:11:38,853 --> 01:11:42,452
Speaker 23: charged was about two hundred and fifteen. Within three weeks,

1485
01:11:43,053 --> 01:11:45,732
Speaker 23: it quickly escalated to over a thousand dollars charged the

1486
01:11:45,853 --> 01:11:48,253
Speaker 23: card to the card because it was a subscription.

1487
01:11:50,093 --> 01:11:50,293
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1488
01:11:50,372 --> 01:11:57,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, pretty pretty and you but you didn't

1489
01:11:57,572 --> 01:11:58,933
Speaker 2: did you manage to get your money back or it

1490
01:11:59,013 --> 01:12:00,372
Speaker 2: was just impossible.

1491
01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:04,293
Speaker 23: It was Yeah, at the end of the day, the

1492
01:12:04,333 --> 01:12:07,013
Speaker 23: bank just said, look, we can't do anything about it,

1493
01:12:07,093 --> 01:12:08,652
Speaker 23: but you know, the only thing to do just to

1494
01:12:08,692 --> 01:12:12,853
Speaker 23: cut out your card and that stopped obviously the subscription

1495
01:12:13,093 --> 01:12:16,133
Speaker 23: charges getting built to it.

1496
01:12:16,853 --> 01:12:17,612
Speaker 14: That was the only way.

1497
01:12:18,133 --> 01:12:20,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't seem right from the bank side of things.

1498
01:12:20,853 --> 01:12:22,933
Speaker 3: I get they you know, it's not their fault, but

1499
01:12:23,013 --> 01:12:24,933
Speaker 3: I thought that's the point of a credit card is

1500
01:12:25,093 --> 01:12:28,253
Speaker 3: that you can get the money back if anything goes wrong,

1501
01:12:28,293 --> 01:12:30,492
Speaker 3: and clearly that sounds like some sort of scam operation.

1502
01:12:30,853 --> 01:12:31,572
Speaker 2: But there you go.

1503
01:12:32,333 --> 01:12:35,772
Speaker 3: A couple of texts. Here get our guys resubscriptions. I

1504
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:38,893
Speaker 3: was having difficulty canceling a subscription to a gym. In

1505
01:12:38,973 --> 01:12:40,772
Speaker 3: the end, I rang my bank and told them to

1506
01:12:40,812 --> 01:12:44,213
Speaker 3: stop the payment. Bank advised that the gym had to cancel. However,

1507
01:12:44,452 --> 01:12:46,532
Speaker 3: I stated to the bank that it is my money

1508
01:12:46,612 --> 01:12:50,372
Speaker 3: and I am their customer, so cancel they did. Therefore,

1509
01:12:50,492 --> 01:12:53,213
Speaker 3: get it sorted. I would presume if using a credit

1510
01:12:53,293 --> 01:12:56,532
Speaker 3: card to pay subs that this could also be stopped.

1511
01:12:56,612 --> 01:12:57,532
Speaker 3: That's from Lynn, what.

1512
01:12:57,612 --> 01:13:00,492
Speaker 2: About that thing? This happens to me, And this happened

1513
01:13:00,492 --> 01:13:04,372
Speaker 2: to me recently. When I was leaving a gym, they

1514
01:13:04,412 --> 01:13:06,772
Speaker 2: said you have to come in and sign some papers.

1515
01:13:07,812 --> 01:13:10,532
Speaker 2: And knowing that, you know you're probably going to get

1516
01:13:10,612 --> 01:13:12,933
Speaker 2: least another three weeks before I have the time to

1517
01:13:12,973 --> 01:13:14,812
Speaker 2: actually go to the gym because I moved to a

1518
01:13:14,853 --> 01:13:17,093
Speaker 2: new area. Yes, so I've been with the gym for

1519
01:13:17,173 --> 01:13:19,412
Speaker 2: a very long time. Wanted to leave. You have to

1520
01:13:19,412 --> 01:13:22,173
Speaker 2: come in and sign the paper. I hate that so true, Like, really,

1521
01:13:22,213 --> 01:13:23,852
Speaker 2: what year do we live in? We live in the

1522
01:13:24,013 --> 01:13:26,732
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty six. There are ways you can do that.

1523
01:13:26,732 --> 01:13:29,213
Speaker 2: You don't need me to come in. No, we'll only

1524
01:13:29,253 --> 01:13:33,092
Speaker 2: cancel it when you come in. You you are banking

1525
01:13:33,173 --> 01:13:35,252
Speaker 2: on me being so useless that I never get around.

1526
01:13:35,053 --> 01:13:37,133
Speaker 3: To come again. We need your physical presence here to

1527
01:13:37,293 --> 01:13:38,212
Speaker 3: complete the process.

1528
01:13:38,933 --> 01:13:42,253
Speaker 2: The technology just doesn't exist where we could stop it

1529
01:13:42,333 --> 01:13:44,532
Speaker 2: without you coming in physically and signing a bit of paper.

1530
01:13:44,692 --> 01:13:47,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, very dirty. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties

1531
01:13:47,093 --> 01:13:47,892
Speaker 3: and number to cool.

1532
01:13:48,933 --> 01:13:53,253
Speaker 2: So subscriptions are obviously sneaky. It's somehow companies automate your

1533
01:13:53,293 --> 01:13:56,012
Speaker 2: payments so they can take your money without you directly

1534
01:13:56,093 --> 01:13:59,333
Speaker 2: feeling it, so you make one decision that keeps pleading you.

1535
01:13:59,452 --> 01:14:00,852
Speaker 2: That's that's the whole idea of them.

1536
01:14:00,973 --> 01:14:01,093
Speaker 15: Right.

1537
01:14:01,812 --> 01:14:04,013
Speaker 2: Every company is doing it now because it's such a

1538
01:14:04,173 --> 01:14:07,692
Speaker 2: great way to just keep making money, you know. And

1539
01:14:08,732 --> 01:14:11,732
Speaker 2: if you want to set things up such that you feel,

1540
01:14:12,093 --> 01:14:14,732
Speaker 2: you know what you really want to do, I guess

1541
01:14:14,772 --> 01:14:18,253
Speaker 2: to set things up so you feel every payment you make, right, Yeah,

1542
01:14:18,893 --> 01:14:22,293
Speaker 2: because that's what the glitches. You're not feeling the payment

1543
01:14:22,372 --> 01:14:24,452
Speaker 2: so it just keeps going. So at least read your

1544
01:14:24,492 --> 01:14:26,692
Speaker 2: bank statements. I think that's the least. Look at the

1545
01:14:26,732 --> 01:14:29,892
Speaker 2: subscription and ask did I use that this month. Did

1546
01:14:29,973 --> 01:14:32,133
Speaker 2: I enjoy it or I die without it? Those kind

1547
01:14:32,173 --> 01:14:34,333
Speaker 2: of questions, just looking at the money that's gone out,

1548
01:14:34,333 --> 01:14:37,253
Speaker 2: so you at least experience the money in some in

1549
01:14:37,372 --> 01:14:40,732
Speaker 2: some kind of way. And as everyone's been saying, one

1550
01:14:40,772 --> 01:14:43,093
Speaker 2: way to reset and purge your subs is canceling your

1551
01:14:43,093 --> 01:14:45,333
Speaker 2: credit cards so you find out what you are paying

1552
01:14:45,652 --> 01:14:48,253
Speaker 2: because they'll email you really quickly, and then just don't

1553
01:14:48,333 --> 01:14:51,093
Speaker 2: re sign to what you don't want. The key point

1554
01:14:51,213 --> 01:14:53,612
Speaker 2: is don't let the bustards passively suck you dry. It's

1555
01:14:53,652 --> 01:14:56,852
Speaker 2: your money. If it works for you, then keep it,

1556
01:14:56,973 --> 01:15:01,132
Speaker 2: but constantly ask the question, do I need this rubbish

1557
01:15:01,173 --> 01:15:01,652
Speaker 2: in my life?

1558
01:15:01,772 --> 01:15:03,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got some admans to do. After the show,

1559
01:15:03,732 --> 01:15:05,892
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. That's perfect. I'm going to follow

1560
01:15:05,973 --> 01:15:08,492
Speaker 3: that guideline to a t and just cut up all

1561
01:15:08,532 --> 01:15:10,213
Speaker 3: my credit cards and go through line by line.

1562
01:15:10,253 --> 01:15:14,293
Speaker 2: But I was subscribed to undies for a while. Oh well,

1563
01:15:14,333 --> 01:15:17,093
Speaker 2: you got new UNDI sent and you quickly realize that

1564
01:15:17,213 --> 01:15:19,213
Speaker 2: you don't need that many pizsiments.

1565
01:15:19,933 --> 01:15:21,852
Speaker 3: So what a month it was?

1566
01:15:22,133 --> 01:15:25,293
Speaker 2: Packs of three? Yeah, every couple of months. I believe

1567
01:15:25,732 --> 01:15:28,372
Speaker 2: I've seen them great, great undies.

1568
01:15:28,492 --> 01:15:30,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got beautiful patterns on them.

1569
01:15:30,293 --> 01:15:33,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, but soon you realize you only need about seven

1570
01:15:33,173 --> 01:15:34,053
Speaker 2: in a rotation.

1571
01:15:34,293 --> 01:15:38,012
Speaker 3: Swimming at unders right. Great discussion. Thank you to everyone

1572
01:15:38,093 --> 01:15:41,133
Speaker 3: who called and text on that one. Coming up after three.

1573
01:15:41,253 --> 01:15:43,372
Speaker 2: Oh this businesses. Please tell people that cutting your credit

1574
01:15:43,452 --> 01:15:45,053
Speaker 2: card won't stop the money coming out. No, you have

1575
01:15:45,093 --> 01:15:45,852
Speaker 2: to actually cancel it.

1576
01:15:46,612 --> 01:15:46,852
Speaker 9: True.

1577
01:15:47,053 --> 01:15:50,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nicely said. All right, coming up after three o'clock,

1578
01:15:50,173 --> 01:15:52,572
Speaker 3: it's going to be a great discussion. Is it better

1579
01:15:53,213 --> 01:15:58,452
Speaker 3: to be sober or drunk when you go to a concert? Matt,

1580
01:15:58,532 --> 01:15:59,933
Speaker 3: You've got some experience.

1581
01:15:59,572 --> 01:16:01,293
Speaker 2: On this, yeah, And I just want to talk about

1582
01:16:01,293 --> 01:16:03,692
Speaker 2: the wider etiquette of concerts because I went to nick

1583
01:16:03,772 --> 01:16:07,093
Speaker 2: Cave and the weekend. It was fantastic, but a few

1584
01:16:07,253 --> 01:16:08,173
Speaker 2: questions are raised.

1585
01:16:08,412 --> 01:16:10,093
Speaker 3: Come on through. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten

1586
01:16:10,253 --> 01:16:13,612
Speaker 3: eighty two ninety two is the text number better to

1587
01:16:13,692 --> 01:16:16,492
Speaker 3: be sober or drunk at a concert? Love to hear

1588
01:16:16,572 --> 01:16:19,093
Speaker 3: your thoughts. New sport on weather coming up, great day.

1589
01:16:19,093 --> 01:16:21,652
Speaker 3: If your company is always on this Monday afternoon, you

1590
01:16:21,772 --> 01:16:24,653
Speaker 3: stay right here because we'll be back very shortly.

1591
01:16:41,652 --> 01:16:59,013
Speaker 7: Again for you person over again.

1592
01:17:00,933 --> 01:17:04,572
Speaker 1: Your home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Matt Heath

1593
01:17:04,612 --> 01:17:08,132
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda on news Talk.

1594
01:17:08,053 --> 01:17:12,412
Speaker 3: Said very good afternoons, you welcome back into the show

1595
01:17:12,572 --> 01:17:14,732
Speaker 3: six pass three. Great to have your company.

1596
01:17:15,173 --> 01:17:17,572
Speaker 2: And the weekend I went down to Wellington. What a

1597
01:17:17,652 --> 01:17:22,052
Speaker 2: fantastic city. It is such an interesting city, so hard

1598
01:17:22,133 --> 01:17:25,692
Speaker 2: to understand where you're going and where you are. It

1599
01:17:25,812 --> 01:17:27,293
Speaker 2: is a bit of a lab and then you turn

1600
01:17:27,372 --> 01:17:30,772
Speaker 2: a corner and then bang, there's the beautiful behavior in

1601
01:17:30,853 --> 01:17:33,532
Speaker 2: your face and you suddenly get patriotic and you put

1602
01:17:33,532 --> 01:17:35,492
Speaker 2: your hand on your heart and you sing the national

1603
01:17:35,492 --> 01:17:38,492
Speaker 2: anthem beautiful and then you walk a little bit further

1604
01:17:38,692 --> 01:17:41,293
Speaker 2: and you're completely lost, and then you find the waterfront

1605
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:43,973
Speaker 2: and it's fantastic, great city. But I went down there

1606
01:17:44,013 --> 01:17:47,732
Speaker 2: to see Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Yes, and

1607
01:17:48,053 --> 01:17:53,933
Speaker 2: it was an absolutely fantastic show. But it was I

1608
01:17:54,053 --> 01:17:56,013
Speaker 2: went along to the I'm a huge Knick Kave fan,

1609
01:17:56,253 --> 01:17:58,572
Speaker 2: and I was really excited about the show and I

1610
01:17:58,692 --> 01:18:03,372
Speaker 2: went along completely sober, yep to watch experience every single

1611
01:18:03,572 --> 01:18:05,772
Speaker 2: moment of the show. It's quite expensive to go to

1612
01:18:05,853 --> 01:18:08,732
Speaker 2: a show now, so you know, I went long and

1613
01:18:09,812 --> 01:18:11,692
Speaker 2: I noticed a lot of stuff that you don't necessarily

1614
01:18:11,772 --> 01:18:13,333
Speaker 2: notice at a concert. If you're not sober.

1615
01:18:13,452 --> 01:18:13,932
Speaker 3: This is good.

1616
01:18:14,173 --> 01:18:16,612
Speaker 2: Like the amount of people that just pushed through passed you.

1617
01:18:17,333 --> 01:18:19,892
Speaker 2: And actually, as I said before, when I was watching

1618
01:18:20,372 --> 01:18:22,772
Speaker 2: that cave, he was on stage and he was performing

1619
01:18:22,812 --> 01:18:25,452
Speaker 2: one of my favorite songs offer the new album Wild God,

1620
01:18:26,053 --> 01:18:30,372
Speaker 2: called Joy, and just when he sung the line We've

1621
01:18:30,452 --> 01:18:32,732
Speaker 2: had so much sorrow, now is the time for joy,

1622
01:18:33,173 --> 01:18:35,612
Speaker 2: a woman in her fifties beside me just vomited everywhere,

1623
01:18:36,093 --> 01:18:39,532
Speaker 2: just vomited everywhere, and then dropped her four pals on

1624
01:18:39,572 --> 01:18:39,932
Speaker 2: the ground.

1625
01:18:40,253 --> 01:18:41,052
Speaker 3: That is a tragedy.

1626
01:18:41,213 --> 01:18:44,093
Speaker 2: But anyway, a couple of a couple of thoughts came

1627
01:18:44,133 --> 01:18:47,012
Speaker 2: to mind, and one of them was, if you're spending

1628
01:18:47,013 --> 01:18:51,532
Speaker 2: money on a concert, is it wise to get absolutely steamed?

1629
01:18:51,572 --> 01:18:53,973
Speaker 2: Because I think I enjoyed the concert more because I

1630
01:18:54,093 --> 01:18:56,852
Speaker 2: was sober and I could experience every moment. I was

1631
01:18:56,933 --> 01:19:01,572
Speaker 2: there to experience the incredible music of this incredibly talented musician.

1632
01:19:02,452 --> 01:19:06,532
Speaker 2: And secondly, what are the rules around concerts? So if

1633
01:19:06,652 --> 01:19:09,293
Speaker 2: you arrive at the concert late and you want to

1634
01:19:09,293 --> 01:19:13,532
Speaker 2: be up the front, is it part of the rules

1635
01:19:13,532 --> 01:19:15,333
Speaker 2: that you're allowed to just push past everyone to the front.

1636
01:19:15,652 --> 01:19:17,213
Speaker 2: Because the other thing that was happening is was this

1637
01:19:17,293 --> 01:19:19,892
Speaker 2: tall guy behind me, and we chatted to him when

1638
01:19:19,933 --> 01:19:23,173
Speaker 2: we arrived and had a great chat. And he said, oh,

1639
01:19:23,253 --> 01:19:25,572
Speaker 2: stand in front of me to Tracy, my partner, who's

1640
01:19:26,133 --> 01:19:28,612
Speaker 2: she's not the tallest person in the world. I don't

1641
01:19:28,612 --> 01:19:30,053
Speaker 2: know how tall she is. She might be five to

1642
01:19:30,093 --> 01:19:32,652
Speaker 2: three yep, something like that. She's listening, She'll probably tell

1643
01:19:32,652 --> 01:19:34,253
Speaker 2: me she's five eight. But you know I'm quite tall.

1644
01:19:34,333 --> 01:19:37,372
Speaker 2: So she who knows how tall she is? Yep, she's little, Yes,

1645
01:19:37,612 --> 01:19:38,052
Speaker 2: she's little.

1646
01:19:38,093 --> 01:19:38,293
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1647
01:19:39,812 --> 01:19:42,932
Speaker 2: Anyway, this guy goes, no, you stand there, and then

1648
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:45,652
Speaker 2: people just started piling past him, and he started getting

1649
01:19:45,652 --> 01:19:48,972
Speaker 2: into confrontations and then were nearly fights with people going

1650
01:19:49,133 --> 01:19:50,892
Speaker 2: just pushing past. It goes where are you going?

1651
01:19:51,133 --> 01:19:51,253
Speaker 4: You know?

1652
01:19:51,492 --> 01:19:51,692
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1653
01:19:52,093 --> 01:19:53,612
Speaker 2: And I was just wondering, what are the rules about that?

1654
01:19:53,692 --> 01:19:57,293
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to arrive late and just push to

1655
01:19:57,372 --> 01:19:59,932
Speaker 2: the front. These are all things that you've experienced when

1656
01:19:59,933 --> 01:20:01,972
Speaker 2: you're sober. I felt like there's a bunch of rules

1657
01:20:02,013 --> 01:20:03,972
Speaker 2: that people know when they've been drinking at a concert.

1658
01:20:04,133 --> 01:20:06,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that Felly because he gave you guys

1659
01:20:06,293 --> 01:20:09,053
Speaker 3: the VIP treatment because Tracy know she needed to.

1660
01:20:09,293 --> 01:20:11,812
Speaker 2: He turned into Gandalf for us. It was basically, you

1661
01:20:11,933 --> 01:20:13,253
Speaker 2: shall not pass behind us?

1662
01:20:13,452 --> 01:20:15,973
Speaker 3: Did he know who you were? Did he recognize you

1663
01:20:16,053 --> 01:20:17,492
Speaker 3: as Mett Heath? And he thought, I'm going to look

1664
01:20:17,492 --> 01:20:19,052
Speaker 3: after you and your your lovely partner.

1665
01:20:19,253 --> 01:20:21,293
Speaker 2: I think if you recognize who I was, he probably

1666
01:20:21,333 --> 01:20:23,012
Speaker 2: wouldn't have wanted to help me out, and you'll probably

1667
01:20:23,173 --> 01:20:24,572
Speaker 2: the agro would have probably been towards me.

1668
01:20:24,772 --> 01:20:26,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes me more, said so I eight one

1669
01:20:26,053 --> 01:20:27,973
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. So what do you say about this?

1670
01:20:28,093 --> 01:20:29,933
Speaker 3: You do spend a lot of money to go to

1671
01:20:30,133 --> 01:20:34,052
Speaker 3: a fantastic concert. Is it worth it to get half

1672
01:20:34,173 --> 01:20:36,173
Speaker 3: cut or to get a hit of steam before going

1673
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:37,772
Speaker 3: to this thing? If you don't remember half of it?

1674
01:20:38,093 --> 01:20:39,892
Speaker 3: And have you ever tried going Sober'd love to hear

1675
01:20:39,893 --> 01:20:42,572
Speaker 3: from you. And also concert etiquette, what are the rules?

1676
01:20:42,933 --> 01:20:45,213
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

1677
01:20:45,973 --> 01:20:48,372
Speaker 2: Did you cry? Matt? I heard some of Nick's songs

1678
01:20:48,452 --> 01:20:52,173
Speaker 2: made grown men cry. That's from Malcolm. It was close, close,

1679
01:20:52,412 --> 01:20:57,093
Speaker 2: it was. It was a beautiful religious experience and he's

1680
01:20:57,253 --> 01:21:01,892
Speaker 2: a messiah, And yeah, I think I was close to crime.

1681
01:21:02,013 --> 01:21:04,692
Speaker 3: It's very seductive. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty

1682
01:21:04,933 --> 01:21:07,253
Speaker 3: is the number to cool? Nineteen ninety two. There's some

1683
01:21:07,372 --> 01:21:09,652
Speaker 3: ticks coming through as well. Oh it is Tim Pass three.

1684
01:21:10,372 --> 01:21:13,772
Speaker 2: This tick says, Matt, you're a sellout. Get drunk, go

1685
01:21:13,973 --> 01:21:15,333
Speaker 2: hard and shut up.

1686
01:21:15,492 --> 01:21:19,412
Speaker 3: I love it. Back to his talks'd be thirteen past three.

1687
01:21:19,532 --> 01:21:21,372
Speaker 2: If you want to learn touch typing, Just going back

1688
01:21:21,412 --> 01:21:24,412
Speaker 2: to that subject from Heather Show. Just right, the quick

1689
01:21:24,492 --> 01:21:27,772
Speaker 2: brown fox jumped over the lazy log over and over

1690
01:21:27,772 --> 01:21:29,333
Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over again when

1691
01:21:29,372 --> 01:21:30,732
Speaker 2: you in front of the TV. That's how I did it,

1692
01:21:30,933 --> 01:21:31,372
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1693
01:21:31,532 --> 01:21:31,692
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1694
01:21:31,772 --> 01:21:33,333
Speaker 2: I just learned by going like that. I just fo

1695
01:21:34,372 --> 01:21:35,293
Speaker 2: excuses every letter.

1696
01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:35,532
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1697
01:21:35,532 --> 01:21:37,293
Speaker 2: I just wrote that hundreds and hundreds of times, and

1698
01:21:37,372 --> 01:21:39,572
Speaker 2: now I can type incrudibly fast so on my fingers.

1699
01:21:39,652 --> 01:21:41,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't need a ministry for that. Yeah, got the

1700
01:21:41,893 --> 01:21:43,933
Speaker 3: school to do that, Just do it.

1701
01:21:44,412 --> 01:21:47,012
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be allowed to in a concert, sober says

1702
01:21:47,053 --> 01:21:49,692
Speaker 2: this text they have They should have a breathalyzer on

1703
01:21:49,772 --> 01:21:52,093
Speaker 2: the door. Go home, Heath, Hey, this is personal. Well,

1704
01:21:52,412 --> 01:21:54,812
Speaker 2: you're going to get annoyed at everyone having a good time.

1705
01:21:55,572 --> 01:21:57,173
Speaker 2: This text says, of course, you can push to the

1706
01:21:57,213 --> 01:21:59,333
Speaker 2: front if you want to stay where you are, hold

1707
01:21:59,372 --> 01:22:01,732
Speaker 2: your ground. Are you saying people should just stand in

1708
01:22:01,812 --> 01:22:04,093
Speaker 2: the order they arrive. I'm not sure about that. So

1709
01:22:04,173 --> 01:22:06,173
Speaker 2: I had some friends that went in that cave, the

1710
01:22:06,293 --> 01:22:07,812
Speaker 2: big fans, and they were there from four to thirty

1711
01:22:07,853 --> 01:22:10,213
Speaker 2: in the afternoon. Yep, I rock on at seven point thirty.

1712
01:22:10,732 --> 01:22:12,812
Speaker 2: That's on me. I'm going to be you know, I'm

1713
01:22:12,812 --> 01:22:14,812
Speaker 2: going to be three quarters the way back. Yeah.

1714
01:22:14,973 --> 01:22:17,612
Speaker 3: But who dares wins? Because I think you're right there?

1715
01:22:17,652 --> 01:22:19,532
Speaker 3: Who if you get there early, you deserve to be

1716
01:22:19,612 --> 01:22:21,253
Speaker 3: at the front. But if you try and push your

1717
01:22:21,293 --> 01:22:24,372
Speaker 3: way through and you get a bit of agro, I mean,

1718
01:22:24,492 --> 01:22:27,172
Speaker 3: is it worth a shot? Or are you a dickhead

1719
01:22:27,293 --> 01:22:30,412
Speaker 3: by trying to push through, upsetting old mate who helped

1720
01:22:30,452 --> 01:22:33,093
Speaker 3: you out, and just ruining the experience for those in

1721
01:22:33,173 --> 01:22:34,132
Speaker 3: the immediate vicinity.

1722
01:22:34,213 --> 01:22:36,972
Speaker 2: Maybe you are okay, But what about this circumstance, tyler.

1723
01:22:37,133 --> 01:22:41,372
Speaker 2: So you have got your position and you've preloaded, you

1724
01:22:41,452 --> 01:22:43,372
Speaker 2: certainly need to go to the bathroom. Then you need

1725
01:22:43,452 --> 01:22:46,532
Speaker 2: to get back to your friends or you are yeah, surely.

1726
01:22:46,652 --> 01:22:48,532
Speaker 2: So how do you know that the person that's pushing

1727
01:22:48,572 --> 01:22:50,173
Speaker 2: to the front isn't just going back to where they

1728
01:22:50,213 --> 01:22:53,213
Speaker 2: were as opposed to arriving late and just feeling like

1729
01:22:53,293 --> 01:22:54,492
Speaker 2: they're entitled to be up at the front.

1730
01:22:54,692 --> 01:22:56,892
Speaker 3: Very good points. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1731
01:22:57,013 --> 01:23:00,133
Speaker 3: is the number to call get a nkday.

1732
01:23:00,772 --> 01:23:03,492
Speaker 21: I try and agree with you. I have been to

1733
01:23:03,612 --> 01:23:06,732
Speaker 21: many concerts at the Springs, going back to you know,

1734
01:23:07,372 --> 01:23:11,972
Speaker 21: Rod Stewart Owns Kiss who David Bowie twice and others,

1735
01:23:12,772 --> 01:23:16,013
Speaker 21: and I never touched the drop And I would go

1736
01:23:16,213 --> 01:23:19,333
Speaker 21: there premier and my girlfriend was at the time, and

1737
01:23:19,412 --> 01:23:22,732
Speaker 21: you see these people rolling around on the ground off

1738
01:23:22,812 --> 01:23:25,652
Speaker 21: their trolleys, and I'm.

1739
01:23:25,532 --> 01:23:26,972
Speaker 13: Thinking, why are you here?

1740
01:23:29,772 --> 01:23:31,612
Speaker 21: I mean, it's the same when I'm sitting at Eden

1741
01:23:31,772 --> 01:23:34,732
Speaker 21: Park and say the All Blacks or the Blues are

1742
01:23:34,772 --> 01:23:38,293
Speaker 21: pushing the opposition's line and people are just casually walking

1743
01:23:38,372 --> 01:23:41,133
Speaker 21: up the stairs to go and get another beer, and

1744
01:23:41,213 --> 01:23:43,252
Speaker 21: I'm thinking, why are you here? You're not interested?

1745
01:23:43,772 --> 01:23:45,412
Speaker 2: Well, that's coming. That's the other part of us in

1746
01:23:45,652 --> 01:23:47,452
Speaker 2: because if you go to a concert, you're preloaded and

1747
01:23:47,492 --> 01:23:51,213
Speaker 2: you're massively steamed a you're not gonna remember the concert.

1748
01:23:51,293 --> 01:23:53,213
Speaker 2: But also you're going to have to keep going back

1749
01:23:53,253 --> 01:23:54,973
Speaker 2: to get more drinks and go to the bathroom. So

1750
01:23:55,053 --> 01:23:56,893
Speaker 2: you're spending a lot of time dealing with admind that

1751
01:23:56,973 --> 01:23:58,012
Speaker 2: isn't actually watching the show.

1752
01:23:58,933 --> 01:24:01,732
Speaker 21: Well, I'm going so far back preloaded, wasn't I think

1753
01:24:04,053 --> 01:24:05,092
Speaker 21: we just got loaded?

1754
01:24:05,412 --> 01:24:05,612
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1755
01:24:06,333 --> 01:24:07,933
Speaker 3: Is there an argument to be made in that if

1756
01:24:07,973 --> 01:24:11,613
Speaker 3: you can that line beautifully and it's different for everybody,

1757
01:24:11,692 --> 01:24:14,172
Speaker 3: but I reckon, if you can just keep it steady

1758
01:24:14,173 --> 01:24:17,492
Speaker 3: at about seven beers apiece, then that adds to the experience.

1759
01:24:17,532 --> 01:24:18,972
Speaker 3: As long as you don't fall off that cliff.

1760
01:24:19,933 --> 01:24:22,732
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think so, as long as you know you may,

1761
01:24:22,893 --> 01:24:25,412
Speaker 21: you may fail the breath lines of it. You're you

1762
01:24:25,532 --> 01:24:28,812
Speaker 21: and me would think we're sober, but you know, I've

1763
01:24:28,812 --> 01:24:32,612
Speaker 21: got no problem. It's just when they're clearly, clearly off

1764
01:24:32,652 --> 01:24:36,333
Speaker 21: their trolleys, they're wasted. Half of them are asleep, they're

1765
01:24:36,412 --> 01:24:39,572
Speaker 21: falling down, they can't stand up, and then why why

1766
01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:40,452
Speaker 21: you're a mug?

1767
01:24:40,933 --> 01:24:43,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me your money, I'll have it, thank you.

1768
01:24:44,053 --> 01:24:44,612
Speaker 17: You call in.

1769
01:24:44,812 --> 01:24:47,173
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is the text here. So I

1770
01:24:47,333 --> 01:24:52,012
Speaker 2: was also at nick Cave. The number of entitled people

1771
01:24:52,253 --> 01:24:54,133
Speaker 2: boomers that I came across, I think there's a lot

1772
01:24:54,173 --> 01:24:56,173
Speaker 2: of entitled gen x is there that I came across

1773
01:24:56,213 --> 01:24:58,933
Speaker 2: at that At that particular conscert was crazy. Unfortunately, a

1774
01:24:58,933 --> 01:25:02,333
Speaker 2: woman puked next to me and my friends, so we

1775
01:25:02,412 --> 01:25:05,013
Speaker 2: had to move about two meters to the right, and

1776
01:25:05,213 --> 01:25:07,732
Speaker 2: we got such vit roll from three baby boomers who

1777
01:25:07,772 --> 01:25:10,133
Speaker 2: decided that we were not allowed enough to stand in

1778
01:25:10,213 --> 01:25:12,732
Speaker 2: front of them. They were all quite tall as well,

1779
01:25:12,893 --> 01:25:14,772
Speaker 2: so I think it was that particular concert. But I

1780
01:25:14,812 --> 01:25:18,093
Speaker 2: felt like telling them all, hay, grandpas, if you really

1781
01:25:18,173 --> 01:25:20,932
Speaker 2: want allocated spaces, then go sit up in the expensive

1782
01:25:20,973 --> 01:25:24,053
Speaker 2: seats and don't get GA tickets. That's from Sean. So

1783
01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:27,452
Speaker 2: hang on a minute. If you were at this concert,

1784
01:25:27,732 --> 01:25:29,652
Speaker 2: and surely they're kind of me. Two women that vomited

1785
01:25:29,692 --> 01:25:32,053
Speaker 2: at the concert. A woman puked next to me and

1786
01:25:32,133 --> 01:25:34,772
Speaker 2: my friend, so we moved about two minutes to the right.

1787
01:25:35,253 --> 01:25:37,372
Speaker 2: I was to the right of the woman that vomited right,

1788
01:25:37,853 --> 01:25:39,772
Speaker 2: so you would have must have walked near me.

1789
01:25:40,013 --> 01:25:42,213
Speaker 3: You were right by the Sean Feller. Yeah, watching the

1790
01:25:42,253 --> 01:25:44,772
Speaker 3: same behavior. I get it with the standing Up's a

1791
01:25:44,812 --> 01:25:47,012
Speaker 3: big one. Standing up, some massive one that keeps coming

1792
01:25:47,053 --> 01:25:49,892
Speaker 3: through again and again and again. And I've always been

1793
01:25:49,933 --> 01:25:51,492
Speaker 3: in the camp that you should stand up. It's a

1794
01:25:51,532 --> 01:25:53,372
Speaker 3: concert for goodness sake, if you want to have a

1795
01:25:53,452 --> 01:25:56,812
Speaker 3: wee boggie, even if people are seated. So Elton John,

1796
01:25:56,893 --> 01:25:59,133
Speaker 3: for example, down in christ Church, that was the last

1797
01:25:59,173 --> 01:26:00,732
Speaker 3: one that they started to get a bit hairy that

1798
01:26:00,812 --> 01:26:03,333
Speaker 3: we're all in seats right, they hit the ground floor.

1799
01:26:03,612 --> 01:26:05,652
Speaker 3: We paid for the seat option. And then at some

1800
01:26:05,732 --> 01:26:07,572
Speaker 3: stage I wanted to jump up and have a boogie

1801
01:26:07,572 --> 01:26:09,253
Speaker 3: because it's Elton John, for goodness sake, and I've been

1802
01:26:09,253 --> 01:26:10,372
Speaker 3: waiting ages to see this.

1803
01:26:11,093 --> 01:26:18,572
Speaker 2: Elton John. Absolutely, absolutely, Elton John John. I had to

1804
01:26:18,612 --> 01:26:20,732
Speaker 2: get up and dance the Crocodile Rock. Yeah, exactly.

1805
01:26:21,013 --> 01:26:23,333
Speaker 3: But then we got up to me and May and

1806
01:26:23,732 --> 01:26:25,612
Speaker 3: the person behind me just gave me a tap on

1807
01:26:25,652 --> 01:26:27,812
Speaker 3: the shoulder and say, hey, do you mind I can't

1808
01:26:27,853 --> 01:26:29,893
Speaker 3: see do you mind taking a seat? And then and

1809
01:26:30,013 --> 01:26:32,933
Speaker 3: then he looked around and everyone else was seated to

1810
01:26:33,013 --> 01:26:35,053
Speaker 3: be fair, and I did have a skinful with me

1811
01:26:35,372 --> 01:26:38,372
Speaker 3: and he said, look around, you read the room. I'm like,

1812
01:26:38,452 --> 01:26:40,972
Speaker 3: I am reading the room, mate, it's Elton John Crocodile Rock.

1813
01:26:41,293 --> 01:26:45,492
Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing about that is that's general admission seated?

1814
01:26:45,572 --> 01:26:45,692
Speaker 22: Was it?

1815
01:26:45,853 --> 01:26:49,452
Speaker 2: It is so at Nick Cave, the general admission was

1816
01:26:49,492 --> 01:26:52,652
Speaker 2: all standing, right, because it's a Google like situation where

1817
01:26:52,652 --> 01:26:54,692
Speaker 2: everyone holds their hands up and tries to grab him.

1818
01:26:55,093 --> 01:26:58,293
Speaker 2: But I think if you're going into general admission at standing,

1819
01:26:58,372 --> 01:27:01,612
Speaker 2: you can expect a lower form of behavior.

1820
01:27:02,372 --> 01:27:03,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's true.

1821
01:27:03,293 --> 01:27:04,892
Speaker 2: You know you're paying for a sort of a more

1822
01:27:05,492 --> 01:27:09,732
Speaker 2: raw experience. Yeah, The stixer says, funniest concert involving alcohol

1823
01:27:09,772 --> 01:27:12,732
Speaker 2: is Liam Gallagher with all the Pommy hooligans throwing half

1824
01:27:12,772 --> 01:27:14,812
Speaker 2: full cups of beer in the air and watching them

1825
01:27:14,893 --> 01:27:17,973
Speaker 2: land on an unassuming people's head. Now, I went to

1826
01:27:18,093 --> 01:27:21,093
Speaker 2: the Liam Gallagher concert at Auckland with a massive head

1827
01:27:21,093 --> 01:27:22,812
Speaker 2: of steam on, and I humiliated myself with that. I

1828
01:27:22,933 --> 01:27:25,212
Speaker 2: might share that later, might not alistair Welcome to the show.

1829
01:27:26,053 --> 01:27:30,452
Speaker 14: I'd get a man tyler, how's it going very well? Hey,

1830
01:27:31,173 --> 01:27:33,933
Speaker 14: here's the one obseration I've made it recently gone to

1831
01:27:33,973 --> 01:27:37,812
Speaker 14: a few concerts, is in the ga area near the front.

1832
01:27:38,412 --> 01:27:42,972
Speaker 14: Is that humans naturally form in rows, even in the GA.

1833
01:27:43,173 --> 01:27:45,652
Speaker 14: So what I've found to get in and out near

1834
01:27:45,692 --> 01:27:47,253
Speaker 14: the front, even if you have to go the toilet

1835
01:27:47,333 --> 01:27:50,333
Speaker 14: or something, you walk down the edges, because normally the

1836
01:27:50,452 --> 01:27:54,612
Speaker 14: edges of the concert aren't that tightly packed. You kind

1837
01:27:54,652 --> 01:27:57,732
Speaker 14: of remember which human row you were in, and then

1838
01:27:57,772 --> 01:28:00,293
Speaker 14: you just sort of wander along the row as if

1839
01:28:00,333 --> 01:28:03,973
Speaker 14: you were in a seated situation, because people were just

1840
01:28:04,053 --> 01:28:08,012
Speaker 14: standing in lines anyway, So I've found kind of first

1841
01:28:08,053 --> 01:28:10,492
Speaker 14: view from the back, which is a nightmare and does

1842
01:28:10,612 --> 01:28:14,732
Speaker 14: cause a bit of a bit of a bit of trouble. Yeah,

1843
01:28:14,772 --> 01:28:16,612
Speaker 14: you simply slide your way across.

1844
01:28:16,893 --> 01:28:20,173
Speaker 2: That's genius, of course, because then everyone you're walking past

1845
01:28:20,333 --> 01:28:22,173
Speaker 2: is that they're not losing their position for you to

1846
01:28:22,253 --> 01:28:27,612
Speaker 2: go past. Why, this is brilliant, This is brilliant.

1847
01:28:27,652 --> 01:28:31,013
Speaker 14: Hopefully I'm not giving away my trade. That's what I've

1848
01:28:31,093 --> 01:28:32,532
Speaker 14: found and it works really well.

1849
01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:35,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and because there has to be a system for

1850
01:28:35,253 --> 01:28:37,652
Speaker 2: those people that are in position and need to go

1851
01:28:37,732 --> 01:28:39,932
Speaker 2: to the bathroom or want to go and get another

1852
01:28:40,013 --> 01:28:40,572
Speaker 2: drink or something.

1853
01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:40,932
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1854
01:28:41,612 --> 01:28:43,933
Speaker 2: So and do you add it with coming through just

1855
01:28:43,973 --> 01:28:45,852
Speaker 2: getting to my friends over here? My friends are over here,

1856
01:28:45,933 --> 01:28:47,452
Speaker 2: I'm just coming back. Do you do you add it

1857
01:28:47,492 --> 01:28:49,732
Speaker 2: with any any chat or do you just go through?

1858
01:28:50,173 --> 01:28:52,652
Speaker 14: Of course? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you want to

1859
01:28:52,732 --> 01:28:55,053
Speaker 14: do that. But you know, I've I've been in that

1860
01:28:55,173 --> 01:28:57,692
Speaker 14: situation where you got some idiot coming in by your

1861
01:28:57,772 --> 01:29:01,133
Speaker 14: albing elbowing you in your back, and it's not that pleasing.

1862
01:29:01,692 --> 01:29:03,972
Speaker 3: Everybody hates that guy when.

1863
01:29:03,893 --> 01:29:07,213
Speaker 14: You're getting as get him with the police.

1864
01:29:07,333 --> 01:29:07,572
Speaker 6: Fass.

1865
01:29:08,093 --> 01:29:10,572
Speaker 2: That was thing Speaking of age, just behind me, there

1866
01:29:10,652 --> 01:29:13,372
Speaker 2: was nearly a fight, and someone had obviously been pre loading.

1867
01:29:13,412 --> 01:29:15,053
Speaker 2: There was this guy that was sort of, you know,

1868
01:29:15,372 --> 01:29:18,133
Speaker 2: questioning why people needed to come through at pace from behind,

1869
01:29:19,133 --> 01:29:21,492
Speaker 2: and they were about to have a standoff and people

1870
01:29:21,572 --> 01:29:24,412
Speaker 2: were holding them back, and it was a big deal.

1871
01:29:24,492 --> 01:29:26,053
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you guys have paid two hundred and

1872
01:29:26,053 --> 01:29:29,012
Speaker 2: something bucks to be yes, enjoy the show. You're about

1873
01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:31,692
Speaker 2: to be very close to having a fist fight in

1874
01:29:31,732 --> 01:29:35,293
Speaker 2: front of about you know, a thousand people. So interesting

1875
01:29:36,053 --> 01:29:37,932
Speaker 2: as an interesting position to get yourself into that you've

1876
01:29:37,973 --> 01:29:39,892
Speaker 2: paid to be in. Yeah, hey, good on your post.

1877
01:29:40,013 --> 01:29:43,532
Speaker 2: You might have created your code later, see mate. The

1878
01:29:43,612 --> 01:29:46,772
Speaker 2: other strategy I just thought of it the old bait strategy.

1879
01:29:46,853 --> 01:29:48,893
Speaker 3: So you're in that mosh ped or you want to

1880
01:29:48,893 --> 01:29:51,173
Speaker 3: get to the front when you wait for someone to

1881
01:29:51,293 --> 01:29:53,692
Speaker 3: make the first move and you just tag in behind

1882
01:29:53,933 --> 01:29:55,973
Speaker 3: them is a strategy I've used quite often. So I

1883
01:29:56,053 --> 01:29:58,053
Speaker 3: might be I'll be a little bit back from the

1884
01:29:58,133 --> 01:30:01,372
Speaker 3: crowd and then I see someone trying to barge true

1885
01:30:01,412 --> 01:30:04,732
Speaker 3: to get to the front, and then just tailing behind

1886
01:30:04,772 --> 01:30:06,892
Speaker 3: them so that they're the bad guy, but you can

1887
01:30:06,973 --> 01:30:08,612
Speaker 3: just follow in to try and get a as close

1888
01:30:08,612 --> 01:30:08,892
Speaker 3: as they.

1889
01:30:08,893 --> 01:30:12,213
Speaker 2: Getting They used to do that in NFL when these

1890
01:30:12,333 --> 01:30:16,093
Speaker 2: have two running backs and one was a big running back,

1891
01:30:16,133 --> 01:30:18,053
Speaker 2: it would run in front of the other one to

1892
01:30:18,173 --> 01:30:20,013
Speaker 2: just like as a bulldozer to get through.

1893
01:30:20,093 --> 01:30:21,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, pouch strategy.

1894
01:30:21,093 --> 01:30:23,852
Speaker 2: They don't use that technique as much anymore. No, but yeah,

1895
01:30:23,893 --> 01:30:26,452
Speaker 2: so what as a bulldozer? It was a bulldozer technique.

1896
01:30:26,452 --> 01:30:28,572
Speaker 3: Now, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, love to

1897
01:30:28,652 --> 01:30:31,013
Speaker 3: hear from you. Concert etiquette And is it better to

1898
01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:33,253
Speaker 3: go to a concert sober or is it better to

1899
01:30:33,333 --> 01:30:33,852
Speaker 3: go drunk?

1900
01:30:34,293 --> 01:30:36,173
Speaker 2: Yeah? And what are the rules about standing up and

1901
01:30:36,253 --> 01:30:39,812
Speaker 2: dancing in the seats? Because Tyler humiliated himself at an

1902
01:30:39,853 --> 01:30:43,053
Speaker 2: Elton John concert, And look, I will tell you and

1903
01:30:43,452 --> 01:30:45,333
Speaker 2: full disclosure, because I don't want to come across as

1904
01:30:45,412 --> 01:30:47,253
Speaker 2: judgmental for people that were drinking it in a cave

1905
01:30:47,372 --> 01:30:51,053
Speaker 2: just because I was, and because of what I did

1906
01:30:51,093 --> 01:30:53,572
Speaker 2: at a Lamb Gallagher concert at the Spark Arena was

1907
01:30:53,612 --> 01:30:53,892
Speaker 2: not good.

1908
01:30:54,013 --> 01:31:01,293
Speaker 1: Twenty two past three, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

1909
01:31:01,452 --> 01:31:04,133
Speaker 1: call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on news Talk

1910
01:31:04,213 --> 01:31:04,532
Speaker 1: Zed be.

1911
01:31:05,213 --> 01:31:07,732
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. Ju It is twenty five past three,

1912
01:31:07,732 --> 01:31:09,813
Speaker 3: and we talk about concert etiquettes.

1913
01:31:10,253 --> 01:31:11,732
Speaker 2: So the thing you were talking about was a truck

1914
01:31:11,732 --> 01:31:15,772
Speaker 2: and trailer situation where you find some absolutely steamed manta

1915
01:31:15,772 --> 01:31:18,572
Speaker 2: who's trying to get to the front yep, who's pushing

1916
01:31:18,692 --> 01:31:21,133
Speaker 2: through like a wrecking ball, and just follow them through.

1917
01:31:21,253 --> 01:31:22,692
Speaker 3: Oy Yep. It's good strategy.

1918
01:31:22,893 --> 01:31:27,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's a respected strategy. Taylor

1919
01:31:27,732 --> 01:31:30,013
Speaker 2: isn't ducking in behind a bigger person pushing their way

1920
01:31:30,053 --> 01:31:32,172
Speaker 2: through the same as someone pulling in behind an ambulance

1921
01:31:32,213 --> 01:31:35,852
Speaker 2: on the motorway and heavy traffic. I think both are

1922
01:31:35,893 --> 01:31:36,692
Speaker 2: normally frowned upon.

1923
01:31:36,933 --> 01:31:38,612
Speaker 3: It is a very good point, Jason. Yeah, I hate

1924
01:31:38,612 --> 01:31:40,772
Speaker 3: when people do that. But when it comes to a concert,

1925
01:31:41,253 --> 01:31:42,812
Speaker 3: oh happily, just bait.

1926
01:31:43,133 --> 01:31:47,253
Speaker 2: We're talking about concert etiquettes and whether it's worth getting

1927
01:31:47,333 --> 01:31:49,812
Speaker 2: absolutely steamed before you go to a concert or not.

1928
01:31:50,812 --> 01:31:52,372
Speaker 2: Because I was at in the Cave in the weekend

1929
01:31:52,492 --> 01:31:54,253
Speaker 2: and absolutely loved it. One of the best concerts I've

1930
01:31:54,253 --> 01:31:56,972
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. It was an emotional, religious experience,

1931
01:31:57,013 --> 01:31:59,212
Speaker 2: but I was completely sober, and so I was witnessing

1932
01:31:59,253 --> 01:32:01,572
Speaker 2: a lot of quite crazy behavior and a lot of

1933
01:32:01,572 --> 01:32:03,732
Speaker 2: people that didn't seem to be getting their money's worth

1934
01:32:03,732 --> 01:32:05,652
Speaker 2: because they were so steamed that they would be hard

1935
01:32:05,692 --> 01:32:07,732
Speaker 2: pressed to know where they were. And also one woman

1936
01:32:07,732 --> 01:32:10,933
Speaker 2: who vomited all over the floor, Yeah, just beside me.

1937
01:32:11,053 --> 01:32:13,053
Speaker 2: So I just want to make sure that I'm not

1938
01:32:13,093 --> 01:32:15,932
Speaker 2: coming across as judgmentor because at a Lean Gallagher concert

1939
01:32:16,853 --> 01:32:19,412
Speaker 2: at Spark Arena, I'd had a few drinks. This was

1940
01:32:19,492 --> 01:32:21,972
Speaker 2: only a few years ago, and I'd had a few

1941
01:32:22,053 --> 01:32:24,492
Speaker 2: drinks and I went to get some more drinks for

1942
01:32:24,652 --> 01:32:27,893
Speaker 2: my friends. So I probably was carrying four, but it was,

1943
01:32:28,213 --> 01:32:29,852
Speaker 2: you know, back in the seated area, and when I

1944
01:32:29,933 --> 01:32:32,253
Speaker 2: was coming back, one of my boots just got sort

1945
01:32:32,253 --> 01:32:34,412
Speaker 2: of slid a little bit and got locked behind one

1946
01:32:34,412 --> 01:32:37,932
Speaker 2: of the seats, and so I just went face down

1947
01:32:38,812 --> 01:32:41,333
Speaker 2: onto the stairs, which it's quite a big four when

1948
01:32:41,333 --> 01:32:44,293
Speaker 2: you're upstairs to fall straight down in front of me,

1949
01:32:44,452 --> 01:32:46,492
Speaker 2: and just the drinks went everywhere on the ground, and

1950
01:32:46,612 --> 01:32:49,293
Speaker 2: I just went and then just slid all the way

1951
01:32:49,372 --> 01:32:52,933
Speaker 2: down the stairs, just covered an alcohol it was, and

1952
01:32:53,213 --> 01:32:54,732
Speaker 2: it was quite hard to get back up because I

1953
01:32:54,812 --> 01:32:58,372
Speaker 2: was the wrong way around and I was getting so

1954
01:32:58,572 --> 01:32:59,132
Speaker 2: much abuse.

1955
01:33:00,053 --> 01:33:03,333
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful picture. Beautiful picture. Oh one hundred and

1956
01:33:03,333 --> 01:33:06,652
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighties The number to call get Angela Hi

1957
01:33:06,933 --> 01:33:08,293
Speaker 3: how are you very girl?

1958
01:33:08,372 --> 01:33:09,452
Speaker 22: Ye good.

1959
01:33:09,973 --> 01:33:13,612
Speaker 24: I just thought I didn't mentioned experience I had. I mean,

1960
01:33:13,692 --> 01:33:16,133
Speaker 24: when I was much younger, I would go and have

1961
01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:18,772
Speaker 24: quite a bit to drink until I got to the

1962
01:33:18,812 --> 01:33:21,452
Speaker 24: stage where I realized that I was. I really hadn't

1963
01:33:21,973 --> 01:33:25,933
Speaker 24: remembered what I've seen. But as an old day, I

1964
01:33:26,173 --> 01:33:28,293
Speaker 24: went to a concert about three or so weeks to

1965
01:33:28,333 --> 01:33:32,772
Speaker 24: go over in Brisbane with my daughter, and I said,

1966
01:33:32,772 --> 01:33:34,293
Speaker 24: I really want to get up the front. I want

1967
01:33:34,293 --> 01:33:36,133
Speaker 24: to go up the front, and so she gave me

1968
01:33:36,772 --> 01:33:39,253
Speaker 24: her etiquette, and that is a you don't go to

1969
01:33:39,372 --> 01:33:43,013
Speaker 24: the toilet, she said, once you've got your place there,

1970
01:33:43,173 --> 01:33:46,293
Speaker 24: it's too damn hard to get back. And again because

1971
01:33:46,293 --> 01:33:49,492
Speaker 24: everybody's going to push you out. If you do need

1972
01:33:49,572 --> 01:33:51,852
Speaker 24: to get out, you know, get to the side and

1973
01:33:52,053 --> 01:33:54,412
Speaker 24: kind of wiggle your way out, and you know, just

1974
01:33:54,532 --> 01:33:57,933
Speaker 24: expect the fact that we'll probably both get lost. And

1975
01:33:58,053 --> 01:34:00,812
Speaker 24: so we had our meeting point, etc. So got in

1976
01:34:00,933 --> 01:34:04,372
Speaker 24: there and it was about I was about three or

1977
01:34:04,372 --> 01:34:07,692
Speaker 24: four rows from the front and stood there through the

1978
01:34:07,893 --> 01:34:10,492
Speaker 24: you know, the first act and everything. So standing for

1979
01:34:10,532 --> 01:34:13,812
Speaker 24: about two a half hours. But when it started, this

1980
01:34:14,293 --> 01:34:20,452
Speaker 24: woman just came barreling through right beside me and pushing

1981
01:34:20,492 --> 01:34:22,492
Speaker 24: everybody aside to try and get to the front, and

1982
01:34:22,532 --> 01:34:24,692
Speaker 24: there was a bit of a scuffle and all of

1983
01:34:24,772 --> 01:34:28,492
Speaker 24: that sort of carry on, and I was like, there's

1984
01:34:28,572 --> 01:34:31,133
Speaker 24: time being a mosh pit at my age. So I

1985
01:34:31,253 --> 01:34:33,732
Speaker 24: was a little bit freaked out, but I've managed to

1986
01:34:33,772 --> 01:34:38,652
Speaker 24: stand the ground. But when he came on, everybody was

1987
01:34:38,772 --> 01:34:40,732
Speaker 24: in front of me, you know, hands up phones and

1988
01:34:40,853 --> 01:34:44,573
Speaker 24: million phones. I could only see glimpses, very small glimpses.

1989
01:34:44,812 --> 01:34:46,213
Speaker 2: This is a good point of etiquet. I was going

1990
01:34:46,253 --> 01:34:48,572
Speaker 2: to bring up just people that hold their phone up

1991
01:34:48,652 --> 01:34:50,772
Speaker 2: to film the car, And I mean this has been

1992
01:34:51,013 --> 01:34:53,652
Speaker 2: talked about a lot, and actually Nick cave changed the

1993
01:34:53,692 --> 01:34:57,053
Speaker 2: words red hot right hand to slag off people that

1994
01:34:57,133 --> 01:34:59,412
Speaker 2: were filming on the on the phones. But that's what

1995
01:34:59,532 --> 01:35:01,452
Speaker 2: people people. Not only is it lame because you're not

1996
01:35:01,572 --> 01:35:04,492
Speaker 2: experiencing the concert, you're looking through it, but people like

1997
01:35:04,612 --> 01:35:06,732
Speaker 2: you ended up from behind you then have to look

1998
01:35:06,732 --> 01:35:08,732
Speaker 2: at their phone to look at the thing.

1999
01:35:10,053 --> 01:35:14,572
Speaker 24: That's exactly what I was doing. And at one stage

2000
01:35:14,652 --> 01:35:16,333
Speaker 24: I just said a bug a list and I just

2001
01:35:16,412 --> 01:35:18,652
Speaker 24: went and stood up on the you know, on the

2002
01:35:18,732 --> 01:35:21,772
Speaker 24: hill of bit so I could actually see properly, you know,

2003
01:35:22,053 --> 01:35:22,372
Speaker 24: no point.

2004
01:35:22,492 --> 01:35:25,013
Speaker 2: Just you're never going to watch that footage again. You've

2005
01:35:25,053 --> 01:35:27,692
Speaker 2: got this opportunity to watch this concert with your eyes

2006
01:35:27,893 --> 01:35:29,973
Speaker 2: right now and experience the moment, and you're holding the

2007
01:35:30,053 --> 01:35:34,293
Speaker 2: phone up like a complete and utter drongo. I've got

2008
01:35:35,412 --> 01:35:37,893
Speaker 2: I've got one problem with your not going to the

2009
01:35:37,933 --> 01:35:40,772
Speaker 2: bathroom situation. What if you need to go to the bathroom.

2010
01:35:42,933 --> 01:35:45,173
Speaker 24: Well, I'll tell you what it was thinking hard. It

2011
01:35:45,293 --> 01:35:47,492
Speaker 24: was over thirty degrees, you were sweating about it.

2012
01:35:48,253 --> 01:35:51,173
Speaker 3: It was coming out your paws. Yeah, so it wasn't

2013
01:35:51,213 --> 01:35:52,892
Speaker 3: some sort of bottle taped to the leg situation.

2014
01:35:53,133 --> 01:35:55,293
Speaker 2: That sounds like a great contint Angelo, except for the

2015
01:35:55,933 --> 01:35:58,612
Speaker 2: publishers with their phones and the pole barrel through.

2016
01:35:58,732 --> 01:35:58,932
Speaker 20: Yeah.

2017
01:35:59,093 --> 01:36:00,652
Speaker 3: Oh, e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a

2018
01:36:00,732 --> 01:36:03,133
Speaker 3: number to call, love to hear from you. Concert etiquette

2019
01:36:03,133 --> 01:36:05,892
Speaker 3: when it comes to people standing up in the seated area,

2020
01:36:06,013 --> 01:36:08,052
Speaker 3: and also sober versus drunk.

2021
01:36:08,013 --> 01:36:10,412
Speaker 2: Fat already that Villa Maria was the best. So many

2022
01:36:10,452 --> 01:36:14,052
Speaker 2: steam patrons from ages of fifteen to eighty Messius gego, we've.

2023
01:36:14,093 --> 01:36:17,692
Speaker 3: Been to Oh good those thiks Covern through nineteen nine two.

2024
01:36:17,692 --> 01:36:18,732
Speaker 3: It is twenty nine to four.

2025
01:36:20,213 --> 01:36:22,652
Speaker 2: You've talk said be headlines.

2026
01:36:22,293 --> 01:36:26,333
Speaker 18: With your Ride, New Zealand's number one taxi app. Download

2027
01:36:26,412 --> 01:36:29,812
Speaker 18: your Ride today. The Mosque terrorist has told the Court

2028
01:36:29,853 --> 01:36:33,893
Speaker 18: of Appeal in Wellington present conditions essentially forced him to

2029
01:36:34,013 --> 01:36:37,852
Speaker 18: plead guilty. As a five day hearing begins, he's asking

2030
01:36:37,973 --> 01:36:41,292
Speaker 18: the court to vacate as guilty pleas to murder, attempted

2031
01:36:41,372 --> 01:36:46,053
Speaker 18: murder and terrorism. A senior Navy officer has pleaded not

2032
01:36:46,213 --> 01:36:49,772
Speaker 18: guilty in a court martial at Auckland's Devonport Naval Base

2033
01:36:49,853 --> 01:36:53,333
Speaker 18: today on charges of alleged misconduct towards a junior.

2034
01:36:54,532 --> 01:36:56,492
Speaker 2: Students in Toupour.

2035
01:36:56,093 --> 01:36:58,612
Speaker 18: Are being worn to stay off the grounds of top

2036
01:36:58,853 --> 01:37:01,732
Speaker 18: nui Attia College, which has closed for at least two

2037
01:37:01,853 --> 01:37:05,253
Speaker 18: days after a fire yesterday destroyed a block of classrooms.

2038
01:37:05,652 --> 01:37:07,333
Speaker 2: Two young people have been charged.

2039
01:37:08,492 --> 01:37:10,932
Speaker 18: Despite the government last week and answering the final full

2040
01:37:11,053 --> 01:37:15,372
Speaker 18: license test will go saving drivers eighty dollars, it may

2041
01:37:15,452 --> 01:37:19,333
Speaker 18: be temporary. NCTA is doing a wider funding review and

2042
01:37:19,412 --> 01:37:23,052
Speaker 18: says the cost of administering driving tests aren't currently recovered.

2043
01:37:24,133 --> 01:37:28,492
Speaker 18: The government's proposed RIMA reforms threaten the why targety rangers.

2044
01:37:28,772 --> 01:37:32,452
Speaker 18: That's what environmental advocates say. You can read the column

2045
01:37:32,452 --> 01:37:35,972
Speaker 18: at Enzid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eth and Tyner Adam, Thank.

2046
01:37:35,853 --> 01:37:38,772
Speaker 3: You very much, Raylan. We're talking about concert etiquettes after

2047
01:37:39,093 --> 01:37:42,372
Speaker 3: what you, Matt witnessed at the fantastic Nick Cave concerts.

2048
01:37:42,532 --> 01:37:44,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, for one of the first times in my life,

2049
01:37:44,492 --> 01:37:47,812
Speaker 2: I went to a concert completely sober, great huge Nick Kafan.

2050
01:37:47,893 --> 01:37:51,652
Speaker 2: I wanted to experience the full majestic nature of that

2051
01:37:51,772 --> 01:37:54,612
Speaker 2: great man being in his presence, so I when long sober.

2052
01:37:54,692 --> 01:37:58,412
Speaker 2: But what I noticed is that it's feral. It's pretty

2053
01:37:58,492 --> 01:38:02,132
Speaker 2: feral when you're sober in ga Lord of the Fly situation.

2054
01:38:02,293 --> 01:38:04,732
Speaker 2: It certainly is only just tuned in. What did Matt

2055
01:38:04,772 --> 01:38:07,892
Speaker 2: think of Nick Cave? As I said, brilliant and played

2056
01:38:07,973 --> 01:38:10,772
Speaker 2: so many songs off the new Wild Guide album, which

2057
01:38:10,812 --> 01:38:13,372
Speaker 2: is just such a fantastic album. But then you know,

2058
01:38:13,692 --> 01:38:16,452
Speaker 2: Into My Arms was fantastic on the on the just

2059
01:38:16,532 --> 01:38:18,932
Speaker 2: by himself on the piano. At the end, Shivers played

2060
01:38:19,093 --> 01:38:21,852
Speaker 2: a song from his first band, The Boys next Door right,

2061
01:38:22,732 --> 01:38:24,973
Speaker 2: which is in the encore. It was just such a

2062
01:38:25,053 --> 01:38:29,052
Speaker 2: great song. I mean how many I mean, Oh boy,

2063
01:38:29,572 --> 01:38:32,053
Speaker 2: Jubilee Street. If you know Nick Cave, the way they

2064
01:38:32,213 --> 01:38:34,692
Speaker 2: arranged that at the end, it just blow up and

2065
01:38:34,772 --> 01:38:38,492
Speaker 2: the musicianship from the Bad Seeds and the backing vocalist

2066
01:38:38,612 --> 01:38:42,173
Speaker 2: was just it was an epic, epic show. It was

2067
01:38:42,253 --> 01:38:42,892
Speaker 2: life changing.

2068
01:38:42,973 --> 01:38:45,173
Speaker 3: Mate, you're fizzing me up. Oh one hundred eighty ten

2069
01:38:45,253 --> 01:38:46,612
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

2070
01:38:47,093 --> 01:38:50,412
Speaker 20: Get a Rod Good, a Matt and Tyler Good afternoon.

2071
01:38:50,492 --> 01:38:53,333
Speaker 20: He look just first off, the irony of we're going

2072
01:38:53,412 --> 01:38:56,293
Speaker 20: Nick Cave. First time so I saw him with a

2073
01:38:56,372 --> 01:38:58,612
Speaker 20: mate was when he was the first time he came

2074
01:38:58,652 --> 01:39:01,532
Speaker 20: to the country with the birthday party. Oh that was

2075
01:39:01,572 --> 01:39:04,532
Speaker 20: back in the day, back in the days of main Street.

2076
01:39:04,572 --> 01:39:08,133
Speaker 20: That's rid of and we got really hacked off of

2077
01:39:08,772 --> 01:39:12,852
Speaker 20: because he didn't come on till about three. I mean

2078
01:39:12,933 --> 01:39:15,612
Speaker 20: in those days it was concerts and wasn't you know,

2079
01:39:15,732 --> 01:39:19,333
Speaker 20: sort of dance party stuff that starts midnight or anything.

2080
01:39:19,853 --> 01:39:22,532
Speaker 20: So it was he came on at three and he

2081
01:39:22,772 --> 01:39:26,012
Speaker 20: was hammered because he was still using smacking those days,

2082
01:39:26,333 --> 01:39:27,812
Speaker 20: and it was a bit, you know, it was a

2083
01:39:27,853 --> 01:39:30,133
Speaker 20: bit of a letdown. I mean, he's changed radically, but

2084
01:39:30,652 --> 01:39:31,732
Speaker 20: I just thought I throw that in.

2085
01:39:31,853 --> 01:39:35,333
Speaker 2: That was the iron. He was famous for getting into

2086
01:39:35,372 --> 01:39:40,492
Speaker 2: confrontations with his audience. He was, yeah, drugs, he was

2087
01:39:40,652 --> 01:39:43,133
Speaker 2: he was a full But that's why his story is

2088
01:39:43,173 --> 01:39:45,293
Speaker 2: so great now, because he's experienced some stuff.

2089
01:39:46,173 --> 01:39:46,932
Speaker 14: Yeah, well that's right.

2090
01:39:47,013 --> 01:39:49,412
Speaker 20: Yeah, and he sort of captures that sort of gothic

2091
01:39:49,772 --> 01:39:51,973
Speaker 20: thing still even in his songs these days, you know,

2092
01:39:52,173 --> 01:39:56,253
Speaker 20: sort of gothic sort of poetic thing.

2093
01:39:56,333 --> 01:39:59,293
Speaker 13: But yeah, I mean I'm an oldie.

2094
01:39:59,293 --> 01:40:00,293
Speaker 20: Now that gives you an idea.

2095
01:40:00,532 --> 01:40:01,133
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

2096
01:40:01,133 --> 01:40:04,213
Speaker 20: And I've done a lot of concerts Western Springs and

2097
01:40:04,772 --> 01:40:08,293
Speaker 20: you know, the Mount Smart and over the years and stuff.

2098
01:40:08,692 --> 01:40:15,293
Speaker 20: But you know, I firmly believe I might be wrong

2099
01:40:15,293 --> 01:40:18,532
Speaker 20: because I haven't The last time I went to a concert, well, yeah,

2100
01:40:18,532 --> 01:40:20,173
Speaker 20: it was a few years ago, and I mean it

2101
01:40:20,333 --> 01:40:23,732
Speaker 20: wasn't I mean from overseas artists. It was at the arena,

2102
01:40:24,093 --> 01:40:27,412
Speaker 20: and I expected to see I wasn't drinking, and that

2103
01:40:27,572 --> 01:40:30,893
Speaker 20: I expected to see some pretty cooked people. It was

2104
01:40:31,532 --> 01:40:34,492
Speaker 20: Motley Crue and Alice Cooper, it was.

2105
01:40:35,133 --> 01:40:36,093
Speaker 2: But it was good.

2106
01:40:36,213 --> 01:40:38,253
Speaker 20: Yeah, and it was except Motley Creue didn't have the

2107
01:40:38,492 --> 01:40:44,333
Speaker 20: I mean, Tommy didn't have the revolving drum kit. Yeah,

2108
01:40:44,412 --> 01:40:45,213
Speaker 20: thank goodness.

2109
01:40:46,692 --> 01:40:47,652
Speaker 2: Stopped taking his pens off.

2110
01:40:48,253 --> 01:40:51,053
Speaker 20: But I'll tell you what, when I hear about the

2111
01:40:51,093 --> 01:40:53,253
Speaker 20: people pre loading and doing all this sort of stuff,

2112
01:40:54,093 --> 01:40:56,812
Speaker 20: and I'm no prude or anything like that. I just

2113
01:40:56,933 --> 01:40:59,892
Speaker 20: think there's a chance you're going to go to the concert.

2114
01:41:00,093 --> 01:41:01,372
Speaker 20: And I know when I was young, there was a

2115
01:41:01,372 --> 01:41:03,812
Speaker 20: few concerts I got cooked on the booze and you know,

2116
01:41:03,973 --> 01:41:06,173
Speaker 20: afterwards with jokes say well I can't even remember the concert,

2117
01:41:06,253 --> 01:41:09,852
Speaker 20: you know, so stopped doing that. But I think that

2118
01:41:09,933 --> 01:41:13,933
Speaker 20: in some respects it's the concert that it depends on

2119
01:41:14,053 --> 01:41:16,532
Speaker 20: the band in a lot of ways. I mean, there's

2120
01:41:16,572 --> 01:41:19,492
Speaker 20: a like I can remember going to the first Sprawls,

2121
01:41:19,612 --> 01:41:23,093
Speaker 20: not the commercial things, but the ones that were karitahi

2122
01:41:23,213 --> 01:41:24,812
Speaker 20: and just you know the first too.

2123
01:41:25,013 --> 01:41:26,012
Speaker 13: The first three were.

2124
01:41:26,013 --> 01:41:29,293
Speaker 20: Non alcohol things. I mean, certainly people were getting blazed

2125
01:41:29,333 --> 01:41:32,892
Speaker 20: on pop, massid and ecstasy, but there was no trouble.

2126
01:41:33,173 --> 01:41:36,333
Speaker 20: There was no fights or anything like that, and you

2127
01:41:36,372 --> 01:41:38,492
Speaker 20: could notice it. And then in the latest Sprawls, I

2128
01:41:38,492 --> 01:41:41,852
Speaker 20: think it was about the fourth one down the Further Thames,

2129
01:41:42,452 --> 01:41:45,293
Speaker 20: they allowed booze and there were sort of roped off

2130
01:41:45,333 --> 01:41:47,652
Speaker 20: areas and it was just a different vibe, you know,

2131
01:41:47,933 --> 01:41:51,852
Speaker 20: a very different vibe, and that's when that thing started

2132
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:54,133
Speaker 20: to change. But I mean I'm looking at things like

2133
01:41:54,612 --> 01:41:57,492
Speaker 20: at the end of the months, Tikitani and dub Effects

2134
01:41:57,492 --> 01:42:00,012
Speaker 20: are playing at the Tuning Fork. Now, I doubt whether

2135
01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:02,612
Speaker 20: there's going to be boozed out people there. There'll be

2136
01:42:02,692 --> 01:42:05,572
Speaker 20: more more often as not going to those guys I

2137
01:42:05,652 --> 01:42:06,333
Speaker 20: get on the poth.

2138
01:42:06,333 --> 01:42:10,532
Speaker 2: What either mellow and well behaved.

2139
01:42:11,213 --> 01:42:14,293
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, it's like a massive attack. I saw them

2140
01:42:14,732 --> 01:42:19,733
Speaker 20: at I think it was at Campbell. Yeah, and everybody's

2141
01:42:20,173 --> 01:42:24,093
Speaker 20: well mannered, you know, and it's just but you know,

2142
01:42:24,333 --> 01:42:28,412
Speaker 20: certainly it depends on the band and like the big

2143
01:42:28,532 --> 01:42:31,652
Speaker 20: venues like Western Springs, you're going to get a big

2144
01:42:31,812 --> 01:42:34,612
Speaker 20: wide section of people. Like Laneway's probably had a big

2145
01:42:34,652 --> 01:42:37,612
Speaker 20: white you know, they are younger demographic of course, but

2146
01:42:37,812 --> 01:42:39,412
Speaker 20: there's going to be so many people there. There's going

2147
01:42:39,452 --> 01:42:41,932
Speaker 20: to be people that get cooked, you know, on the booze.

2148
01:42:42,973 --> 01:42:46,452
Speaker 20: And it's a shame really because you know, but I remember,

2149
01:42:46,492 --> 01:42:48,013
Speaker 20: I mean there were bands in Auckland, you know, we

2150
01:42:48,133 --> 01:42:50,173
Speaker 20: used to go and see you know, like back in

2151
01:42:50,253 --> 01:42:53,213
Speaker 20: the seventies was a band called the Booze Fighters. You know,

2152
01:42:53,293 --> 01:42:55,572
Speaker 20: they've played at the Blues Barn up Queen Street and

2153
01:42:55,652 --> 01:42:57,572
Speaker 20: things like that. It was sort of made a joke

2154
01:42:57,652 --> 01:43:00,652
Speaker 20: of sort of thing. But certainly these days it just

2155
01:43:00,732 --> 01:43:02,973
Speaker 20: sounds like people jumping.

2156
01:43:02,732 --> 01:43:05,412
Speaker 2: To you've been going to You've been going to bands

2157
01:43:05,452 --> 01:43:06,053
Speaker 2: for a long time.

2158
01:43:06,133 --> 01:43:12,412
Speaker 20: Ride I'm a heart hardcore muso. Yeah, saying I just

2159
01:43:12,492 --> 01:43:15,253
Speaker 20: heard an ad just mentioning Santana's coming in March. I

2160
01:43:15,333 --> 01:43:19,053
Speaker 20: love Sandana. I saw him at Albany Stadium back. I

2161
01:43:19,492 --> 01:43:19,772
Speaker 20: don't know.

2162
01:43:19,893 --> 01:43:21,173
Speaker 22: There must have been about two.

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01:43:21,133 --> 01:43:23,013
Speaker 20: Thousand or something. That was a long time ago, and

2164
01:43:23,133 --> 01:43:26,293
Speaker 20: he was playing with yos Yumbi the I was the guy. Yeah,

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01:43:27,013 --> 01:43:29,052
Speaker 20: that was a that was a brilliant concert.

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01:43:29,133 --> 01:43:31,173
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't go there.

2167
01:43:31,173 --> 01:43:32,612
Speaker 20: As I say, I don't go so much now because

2168
01:43:32,612 --> 01:43:34,892
Speaker 20: it just the cost of it. I mean, I wanted

2169
01:43:34,893 --> 01:43:37,133
Speaker 20: to go and see Billy Strings, but when I sort

2170
01:43:37,173 --> 01:43:39,293
Speaker 20: of saw the cost, I just got too many other

2171
01:43:39,372 --> 01:43:42,253
Speaker 20: things to do. And but I think it's always great

2172
01:43:42,293 --> 01:43:43,972
Speaker 20: to get out and see I mean that Nick Cave

2173
01:43:44,013 --> 01:43:48,412
Speaker 20: would have been mammoth, you know. Yeah, anyone on the

2174
01:43:48,452 --> 01:43:52,852
Speaker 20: bucket going to church, mate, what's ye on the bucket list?

2175
01:43:52,933 --> 01:43:53,133
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2176
01:43:53,133 --> 01:43:55,173
Speaker 3: Anyone you haven't seen here that you really want it.

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01:43:57,973 --> 01:43:58,852
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to think.

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01:43:58,933 --> 01:44:01,412
Speaker 20: I just I can't. I'm just trying to think now.

2179
01:44:01,772 --> 01:44:03,173
Speaker 20: Off the top of my head. I can't think of

2180
01:44:03,253 --> 01:44:07,812
Speaker 20: anybody like you know honestly, and there's probably I'll get

2181
01:44:07,853 --> 01:44:09,293
Speaker 20: off the phone. I think, oh yeah, there is that

2182
01:44:09,812 --> 01:44:13,293
Speaker 20: such and such. I mean, he's I don't listen to

2183
01:44:13,333 --> 01:44:14,973
Speaker 20: a lot of the current stuff, you know, which is

2184
01:44:15,053 --> 01:44:17,053
Speaker 20: I don't understand me. I mean when I heard who

2185
01:44:17,133 --> 01:44:19,452
Speaker 20: was on it lame ways, I didn't I didn't recognize anybody.

2186
01:44:19,492 --> 01:44:24,652
Speaker 20: But that's understandable. I'd like, I just yeah, yeah, I

2187
01:44:24,933 --> 01:44:27,652
Speaker 20: can't really thick off the top of my head, but

2188
01:44:27,772 --> 01:44:29,972
Speaker 20: I'm sure there are you know. It's just when you're

2189
01:44:29,973 --> 01:44:32,092
Speaker 20: into music, you know, and it's sort of a across

2190
01:44:32,173 --> 01:44:35,812
Speaker 20: the broad spectrum. There's there's all sorts of stuff, you know.

2191
01:44:36,812 --> 01:44:38,852
Speaker 20: I'd like to say it, but I would like to

2192
01:44:38,893 --> 01:44:40,772
Speaker 20: see Willie Nelson. I've never seen it, but I don't

2193
01:44:40,772 --> 01:44:41,412
Speaker 20: think he's going to.

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01:44:41,412 --> 01:44:45,133
Speaker 2: Be doing any touring, you know, speaking of marijuana enthusiasts.

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01:44:48,933 --> 01:44:51,652
Speaker 3: Thanks for cal Rod. What a fantastic man. Oh one

2196
01:44:51,732 --> 01:44:53,772
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

2197
01:44:54,013 --> 01:44:56,732
Speaker 3: How us address this text here? And we're getting a

2198
01:44:56,772 --> 01:45:01,133
Speaker 3: few in this one? No, it's just in the queue there, Tyler,

2199
01:45:01,372 --> 01:45:04,812
Speaker 3: How entitled are you? You chose a GA seat if

2200
01:45:04,893 --> 01:45:07,333
Speaker 3: you wanted to dance, you should have bought standing ga,

2201
01:45:07,652 --> 01:45:09,452
Speaker 3: I'd mean live if you stood up in front of

2202
01:45:09,492 --> 01:45:14,253
Speaker 3: me to dance. Shame on you from Caren now checks out?

2203
01:45:14,973 --> 01:45:17,492
Speaker 3: It does check out now. I just want to repeat

2204
01:45:17,492 --> 01:45:20,133
Speaker 3: what happened at the Elton John concerts. And we're in

2205
01:45:20,213 --> 01:45:22,612
Speaker 3: the seated area. Most people were. There was a bit

2206
01:45:22,652 --> 01:45:24,933
Speaker 3: of standing room in the front. But I decided to

2207
01:45:24,973 --> 01:45:27,133
Speaker 3: get up midway through the concert, and you mentioned Crock,

2208
01:45:27,173 --> 01:45:28,973
Speaker 3: Crocodile Rock. I think there was actually the song I

2209
01:45:29,093 --> 01:45:33,412
Speaker 3: got up for, and I got absolute assholes from everybody

2210
01:45:33,452 --> 01:45:36,732
Speaker 3: around me, saying sit down where everybody's seated. But I'm

2211
01:45:36,772 --> 01:45:38,812
Speaker 3: going to stand firm that if I'm at a concert,

2212
01:45:38,933 --> 01:45:41,452
Speaker 3: even Elton John at seventy six years old, if I'm

2213
01:45:41,452 --> 01:45:44,053
Speaker 3: at a concert, I have the right, even in a

2214
01:45:44,093 --> 01:45:46,492
Speaker 3: seated area, to stand up and have a boogie.

2215
01:45:47,572 --> 01:45:50,732
Speaker 2: Is what this person is saying here on the text

2216
01:45:50,853 --> 01:45:54,053
Speaker 2: is that you are. The time when you're officially allowed

2217
01:45:54,093 --> 01:45:57,093
Speaker 2: to stand up in the seats is when it hits

2218
01:45:57,093 --> 01:46:00,612
Speaker 2: the encorese No, surely before that. I mean, these rules

2219
01:46:00,652 --> 01:46:03,532
Speaker 2: aren't printed, but I've never heard that before. But you know,

2220
01:46:04,173 --> 01:46:07,852
Speaker 2: artists will want would prefer that the audience is dancing.

2221
01:46:07,893 --> 01:46:10,572
Speaker 2: Then set out wouldn't they. You'd think so, yes, most artists,

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01:46:10,772 --> 01:46:11,333
Speaker 2: I imagine.

2223
01:46:11,612 --> 01:46:14,333
Speaker 3: And a little bit later on Elton John did actually

2224
01:46:14,333 --> 01:46:16,053
Speaker 3: say right, I want everybody to stand up. I just

2225
01:46:16,093 --> 01:46:17,892
Speaker 3: went a little bit early. That's all. Oh eight one

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01:46:17,933 --> 01:46:20,053
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten, eight years the number to call.

2227
01:46:20,213 --> 01:46:24,812
Speaker 2: Bill's texting in about the filming on your phone exactly.

2228
01:46:24,853 --> 01:46:26,532
Speaker 2: You paid for a live gig so you didn't have

2229
01:46:26,652 --> 01:46:29,013
Speaker 2: to watch it on your own device. Clowns leave it

2230
01:46:29,053 --> 01:46:31,333
Speaker 2: in your pocket. And I think people that film gigs

2231
01:46:31,333 --> 01:46:34,052
Speaker 2: don't realize that you're not only ruining the experience for yourself,

2232
01:46:34,093 --> 01:46:36,133
Speaker 2: and that's fine, that's up to you. You're not only

2233
01:46:36,213 --> 01:46:37,892
Speaker 2: ruining it for yourself, You're ruining it for the artist

2234
01:46:37,973 --> 01:46:41,372
Speaker 2: that's performing, but also the people person behind you, because

2235
01:46:41,372 --> 01:46:43,093
Speaker 2: they now have for you're holding your hands up and

2236
01:46:43,173 --> 01:46:45,772
Speaker 2: blocking the view. You're holding your hands up, blocking the view.

2237
01:46:45,933 --> 01:46:47,772
Speaker 2: There's not an artist in the world that wants you

2238
01:46:47,812 --> 01:46:48,333
Speaker 2: to film them.

2239
01:46:48,452 --> 01:46:48,612
Speaker 6: Yep.

2240
01:46:48,812 --> 01:46:51,532
Speaker 2: They hate it. You're ruining it for yourself because you're

2241
01:46:51,572 --> 01:46:54,412
Speaker 2: not in the moment. You're trying to get some footage

2242
01:46:54,452 --> 01:46:56,612
Speaker 2: to post online so you get some likes, or to

2243
01:46:56,692 --> 01:46:59,732
Speaker 2: watch later. You'll never watch it later, yep. And you

2244
01:46:59,853 --> 01:47:00,852
Speaker 2: ruin it for people behind you.

2245
01:47:00,973 --> 01:47:03,013
Speaker 3: If that's you listening, do better, Just do better.

2246
01:47:03,053 --> 01:47:05,293
Speaker 2: Put your phone away, you absolute mup.

2247
01:47:05,772 --> 01:47:08,652
Speaker 3: Beg very shortly taking your calls. Concert you kido hundred

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01:47:08,652 --> 01:47:10,412
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. It is sixteen to four.

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01:47:11,053 --> 01:47:14,372
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:47:14,772 --> 01:47:18,372
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons with

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01:47:18,732 --> 01:47:23,053
Speaker 1: Scoter Please scoter codes every day at scoter dot co News.

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01:47:23,133 --> 01:47:26,533
Speaker 3: Talk'd be thirteen to four talking about concert etiquettes.

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01:47:27,133 --> 01:47:29,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to the Neck Cave concert sober so

2254
01:47:29,253 --> 01:47:31,812
Speaker 2: I could savor every moment. And I just noticed that

2255
01:47:32,053 --> 01:47:34,812
Speaker 2: it's a while we're situt there in the GA section.

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01:47:35,853 --> 01:47:39,612
Speaker 2: I've never noticed before when I've been, you know, ineborated

2257
01:47:39,772 --> 01:47:43,492
Speaker 2: or on my way at a concert. And yeah, maybe

2258
01:47:43,572 --> 01:47:46,053
Speaker 2: I was the problem in the past. The sixth says, Hey,

2259
01:47:46,093 --> 01:47:49,372
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler, it's sidle. This is about getting to

2260
01:47:49,412 --> 01:47:51,692
Speaker 2: the front. If you want to be further closer to

2261
01:47:51,772 --> 01:47:55,652
Speaker 2: the stage, it's sidle pause, sidle pause, sidle pause to

2262
01:47:55,772 --> 01:47:58,812
Speaker 2: your desired position closer to the front. Then then wait

2263
01:47:58,893 --> 01:48:02,812
Speaker 2: for the gap gap opens up, move forward and square. Perfect.

2264
01:48:02,853 --> 01:48:04,932
Speaker 2: You've made it. You can do that totally sober.

2265
01:48:05,173 --> 01:48:05,412
Speaker 3: Nice.

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01:48:05,933 --> 01:48:08,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get there because because the positions will.

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01:48:08,692 --> 01:48:11,972
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, so sidle. Then you make your friends

2268
01:48:12,013 --> 01:48:13,893
Speaker 3: for thirty seconds and then continue to go. Makes a

2269
01:48:13,933 --> 01:48:14,572
Speaker 3: lot of sense there.

2270
01:48:15,452 --> 01:48:17,573
Speaker 2: The best way to get a free feed at concerts

2271
01:48:17,652 --> 01:48:19,532
Speaker 2: If a guy, no matter how big he is, makes

2272
01:48:19,572 --> 01:48:21,692
Speaker 2: his way to his seat with both hands full of

2273
01:48:21,732 --> 01:48:26,052
Speaker 2: hot chips, it's safe to take a few. He won't

2274
01:48:26,133 --> 01:48:28,052
Speaker 2: hit you as he doesn't want to drop the rest.

2275
01:48:28,133 --> 01:48:32,012
Speaker 3: Oh that's great, fantastic, This is a good text here, boys.

2276
01:48:32,093 --> 01:48:33,852
Speaker 3: One time I got too steamed at a concert in

2277
01:48:33,933 --> 01:48:36,293
Speaker 3: San Francisco bath House and Wellington. I had to sit down,

2278
01:48:36,333 --> 01:48:38,972
Speaker 3: so I found a plastic chair and naturally I slowly

2279
01:48:39,053 --> 01:48:42,333
Speaker 3: shuffled up towards the front. Turns out people thought I

2280
01:48:42,612 --> 01:48:45,492
Speaker 3: was disabled, giving me pets on the back and saying

2281
01:48:45,532 --> 01:48:47,293
Speaker 3: good on you mate. By the time I realized I'd

2282
01:48:47,333 --> 01:48:48,973
Speaker 3: come too far and couldn't get up till the end

2283
01:48:48,973 --> 01:48:51,452
Speaker 3: of the show. There's a hell of a strategy.

2284
01:48:53,412 --> 01:48:57,092
Speaker 2: I feel for people like this. Hi, guys, how about

2285
01:48:57,293 --> 01:49:00,253
Speaker 2: shout out to us tall units on six' four and

2286
01:49:00,652 --> 01:49:03,652
Speaker 2: that's one point ninety five meters and frequently get niggle

2287
01:49:03,732 --> 01:49:06,213
Speaker 2: from people at. Gigs blame my. Dad he's sixty. SEVEN

2288
01:49:06,492 --> 01:49:08,293
Speaker 2: i do try and stay a bit towards the, back

2289
01:49:08,572 --> 01:49:11,652
Speaker 2: But i'm with the crew of. Mates it's pretty. Hard Cheers.

2290
01:49:11,692 --> 01:49:11,892
Speaker 1: Andy.

2291
01:49:11,973 --> 01:49:13,333
Speaker 2: YEAH i talked to a really tall guy at the

2292
01:49:13,372 --> 01:49:15,452
Speaker 2: gag and he, said you, KNOW i can't win at.

2293
01:49:15,532 --> 01:49:18,372
Speaker 2: Gags i'm just just my very presence here and. Noise

2294
01:49:18,412 --> 01:49:20,412
Speaker 2: people always in the. Way AND i see to, him

2295
01:49:20,412 --> 01:49:22,893
Speaker 2: people are just. Jealous you don't listen to the. People you,

2296
01:49:22,933 --> 01:49:26,012
Speaker 2: know it's their fault they're. Short if someone's behind a tall, person,

2297
01:49:26,293 --> 01:49:29,372
Speaker 2: yep that that tall person didn't choose how tall they are.

2298
01:49:29,452 --> 01:49:31,652
Speaker 2: Exactly they've got every right to be wherever they want

2299
01:49:31,772 --> 01:49:32,692
Speaker 2: in the. Gig own.

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01:49:32,732 --> 01:49:34,692
Speaker 3: It you've got a great. View, yeah feel sorry for

2301
01:49:34,692 --> 01:49:34,972
Speaker 3: the short.

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01:49:34,973 --> 01:49:38,213
Speaker 2: People just feel a Smug you know something in your

2303
01:49:38,412 --> 01:49:41,093
Speaker 2: in yourself that you are tall and you're getting a

2304
01:49:41,532 --> 01:49:43,892
Speaker 2: better view than everyone. Else don't apologize for your. Existence

2305
01:49:43,933 --> 01:49:44,412
Speaker 2: that is great.

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01:49:44,452 --> 01:49:46,812
Speaker 3: Advice that's a good one as. Well get our. GUYS

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01:49:46,812 --> 01:49:48,293
Speaker 3: i hate people who think they can push to the.

2308
01:49:48,333 --> 01:49:50,492
Speaker 3: Front so when we arrived just in time For Joan

2309
01:49:50,572 --> 01:49:52,973
Speaker 3: jet last, week we went straight to the stage and

2310
01:49:53,053 --> 01:49:55,852
Speaker 3: pushed right through the, runaways black arts and even the

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01:49:55,933 --> 01:49:59,133
Speaker 3: next Legend Iggy. Pop i'm not, proud but everyone was.

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01:49:59,293 --> 01:50:02,053
Speaker 3: ENCOURAGING i think you just need manners say excuse, me,

2313
01:50:02,173 --> 01:50:04,532
Speaker 3: please then say thank. You i'm. Please we did it

2314
01:50:04,572 --> 01:50:07,412
Speaker 3: because it was awesome And joan And iggy has still got.

2315
01:50:07,492 --> 01:50:09,692
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i MEAN i heard a lot of people

2316
01:50:09,732 --> 01:50:11,892
Speaker 2: that went to that show Said aggie got a shirt,

2317
01:50:11,893 --> 01:50:13,452
Speaker 2: off looking by a piece of like a piece Of Bill,

2318
01:50:13,532 --> 01:50:17,652
Speaker 2: tom but just went for. It Green day And Green

2319
01:50:17,732 --> 01:50:20,572
Speaker 2: day wouldn't start playing until everyone was standing, up including

2320
01:50:20,612 --> 01:50:22,932
Speaker 2: the seeded stands And Spark. Arena best Concert i've ever.

2321
01:50:23,013 --> 01:50:27,932
Speaker 2: Seen have you noticed that the singer From Green, day

2322
01:50:27,973 --> 01:50:31,812
Speaker 2: what's his? Name Billy, Billy Billy Billy, Jay Billy, Joel

2323
01:50:32,013 --> 01:50:37,572
Speaker 2: not That Billy joel's the Singer Bully Bully Joe Armstrong Bully.

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01:50:37,692 --> 01:50:40,692
Speaker 2: Joe HE i just saw him at this thing at

2325
01:50:40,692 --> 01:50:42,333
Speaker 2: the Super bowl that they performed at the. Start he

2326
01:50:42,452 --> 01:50:45,532
Speaker 2: now looks like Dolorous umbradge From Harry.

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01:50:45,572 --> 01:50:47,093
Speaker 3: Potter she hasn't been.

2328
01:50:47,173 --> 01:50:49,772
Speaker 2: KIND i, mean this is we know it's twenty twenty,

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01:50:49,812 --> 01:50:53,013
Speaker 2: six when this young punk now looks like Dolorous umbradge.

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01:50:54,013 --> 01:50:56,452
Speaker 3: That i'm just looking at photos, now bang bang on

2331
01:50:56,812 --> 01:50:57,693
Speaker 3: he's become.

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01:50:57,732 --> 01:51:04,333
Speaker 2: What, Happened he's become a yeah, anyway he's become the

2333
01:51:04,452 --> 01:51:07,732
Speaker 2: defense against the dark arts teacher from you, Know Harry

2334
01:51:07,772 --> 01:51:09,492
Speaker 2: potter and the De. Fenix oh too.

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01:51:09,572 --> 01:51:12,333
Speaker 3: Good all, right we're going to play some, messages but

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01:51:12,372 --> 01:51:13,973
Speaker 3: if you want to send the text nine to nine to.

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01:51:14,013 --> 01:51:16,692
Speaker 3: Two is that number back very? Shortly it is nine to.

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01:51:16,772 --> 01:51:21,052
Speaker 1: Four the big, stories the big, issues the big trends

2339
01:51:21,213 --> 01:51:24,933
Speaker 1: and everything in. Between Matt heath And Tyler Adams afternoons

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01:51:25,253 --> 01:51:27,772
Speaker 1: USED Talksb News TALKS.

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01:51:27,772 --> 01:51:30,652
Speaker 3: Thereb we've been talking about concert. Etiquette, Don we've got

2342
01:51:30,652 --> 01:51:34,492
Speaker 3: about sixty. Seconds how are you gooding? Yourself very?

2343
01:51:34,532 --> 01:51:38,133
Speaker 21: Well so what me and my mates did when we

2344
01:51:38,173 --> 01:51:40,173
Speaker 21: went to a tool, concert got there nice and, early

2345
01:51:40,933 --> 01:51:42,492
Speaker 21: heard commotion behind us.

2346
01:51:42,452 --> 01:51:44,932
Speaker 9: Because we were in the front. Row all these people

2347
01:51:44,973 --> 01:51:45,492
Speaker 9: were pushing.

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01:51:45,612 --> 01:51:48,612
Speaker 21: Through we just picked them, up threw them over the

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Speaker 21: fence at the front security grabs.

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Speaker 4: Them Chuck, Mouth i'll never do.

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01:51:51,973 --> 01:51:57,333
Speaker 2: It, Wow, YES i mean you have to be a

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01:51:57,492 --> 01:51:59,053
Speaker 2: certain strength level to pull that one.

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Speaker 18: Off.

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Speaker 10: Don i'm six foot four one and thirty, kilo so

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Speaker 10: you're in.

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01:52:03,853 --> 01:52:04,692
Speaker 2: Advantage be proud of.

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01:52:04,732 --> 01:52:07,492
Speaker 3: That be, Proud, don, yeap you need to done at every, concert.

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01:52:07,612 --> 01:52:11,412
Speaker 2: This text, says went to a dowl At Olympic, stadium

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01:52:11,452 --> 01:52:14,213
Speaker 2: fantastic seats and the Complete muppets and front started filming

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Speaker 2: with their freaking. iPads W tf come, on they got

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01:52:18,492 --> 01:52:21,412
Speaker 2: shouted down the. End, seriously just enjoy the, concert Cheers.

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Speaker 2: Gilly it's one thing to be filming on your, phone

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01:52:23,412 --> 01:52:25,893
Speaker 2: which makes you a, muppet but to be filming on

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01:52:26,013 --> 01:52:28,893
Speaker 2: an iPad and just blocking that much space for the

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01:52:28,893 --> 01:52:31,652
Speaker 2: people behind you whilst ruining the concert for yourself by

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01:52:31,732 --> 01:52:32,492
Speaker 2: not actually enjoying.

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Speaker 3: It shame on those.

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01:52:33,452 --> 01:52:39,093
Speaker 2: People how freaking sexist you Pig heath saying the guy

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Speaker 2: From Green day looks like an old. Woman, well, NO

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Speaker 2: i see. It he looks like the lorus umbrage From

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Speaker 2: Harry potter and, sunglasses which he. Does it's not, sexist

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Speaker 2: it's just a fact he looks like The laurus umbradge

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Speaker 2: go google.

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Speaker 3: It it's spot. ON i, mean there's something about, that and.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting that this young punk back in the

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Speaker 2: day in the early nineties is now older with The

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Speaker 2: laurus umbrage. Here that's just. Life, yeah can, happen anyone

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01:53:01,333 --> 01:53:04,412
Speaker 2: certainly can one, minute you're just a young punk spitting

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Speaker 2: into the. Camera next thing you, know you look like

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Speaker 2: The laurus umbrage From Harry. Potter it's life advice for.

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Speaker 3: You, yeah great. Discussion thank you very much to everyone

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01:53:12,173 --> 01:53:13,053
Speaker 3: who called in text on.

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Speaker 2: That, yes that brings us to the end of another

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Speaker 2: edition Of Matt heath And Tyler Adams. Afternoons The great

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Speaker 2: And Powerful Heather Duplicity ellen is up. Next but why

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Speaker 2: WOULD i be PLAYING O? Children By nick cave to the.

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Speaker 3: Show this is a beautiful, tune of, course because you

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01:53:29,213 --> 01:53:33,333
Speaker 3: went to his fantastic majestic concert down And. Wellington what an. Experience, Man,

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Speaker 3: oh this is such a.

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Speaker 2: Chune we'll be back tomorrow live from twelve PM. C

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Speaker 2: then until, then give him a taste of.

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Speaker 17: Gear The Dream that The, Dream.

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Speaker 6: The, Train back The, King.

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