1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Als will suggest the playgrounds that are a space for 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: the child to be able to break out into and 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: burn off a bit of steam in a relatively unsupervised manner. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: But when you step outside of it and look into 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: to counsel playgrounds or just playgrounds on the whole, you 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: consider the primary target user group being children. With the 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: purposes to create a space which would stimulate a child's 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: imagination provides an exciting and engaging, adventurous, maybe structured or 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: unstructured opportunity. Playgrounds also to us, they have a responsibility 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: to help encourage and develop motor skills for children, help 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: them learn about finding and testing their personal limits. I 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: guess developing risk management skills. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: The old burning off steam bit. As a parent, I 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: like the sound of that. If it's a quiet drive 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: in the car on the way home, then you know 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: it served its purpose. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, But again a big advocate for playing alongside 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: my kids and all certainly turn up to the playground, 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: and I like to think of myself fun dad. 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Even more so if it's worth but it needs to 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: drive home as Dad's asleep in the passenger seat and 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: the kids. 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: In the back even better, even better, Hey. 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: So you've touched on it before, but it was also 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: keen to ask how do you balance fun with safety 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: when building playgrounds. 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Councils and schools ask us to design playgrounds to the 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: National safety standards, but those themselves are a little bit ambiguous. 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: The way we see it's quite simple. We just come 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: back around to what makes the space engaging. If it's engaging, 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: it's fun. Danger and risk it's a perception. It's individually assessed. 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: What one child sees as risky, the next we'll see 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: is easy. So we. 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: Sort of have to. 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Continue to ask ourselves the question of have we given 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: a play opportunity to every user? And if we can 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: succeeded giving an opportunity to everyone, then the space will 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: be fun and engaging and the risk just comes naturally 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: with play. 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: Oftentimes you find the risk appetite and kids is far 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: greater than adults. There's this massive towering fort at the 42 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: George Glassie Park and timmeult Alice or race right to 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: the top of it. I get about halfway and think 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: this is why. 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kids are often regarded as fearless and much 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: the same as you. I had my daughter in the 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: weekend climbing a for meter structure and yep, she lost 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: her footing as she got to the top that she 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: had dad with her. So you know, that's a benefit 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: of plant along beside them. We're encouraging them to develop 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: their motor skills and take on this risk in a 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: safe place. 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: I feel like the answer to this next question may 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: surprise a lot appearance and potentially scare them. What kinds 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: of play do kids love most to their adults? 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: Off and overlook, I would suggest you force movement, and 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: force movement as being like anything that allows a child 58 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: to take flight or lose full control of their ability. 59 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: So that would be things like going down a slide 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: or spinning on a carousel. 61 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: The stuff that gives Gwennie when she's baby sitting a 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: panic attack. 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. It's it's an easy one. Like 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: we know, it's a short term pain of being busy 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: for ten seconds and that feeling goes. 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: The kids love it. 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: They love the feeling of feeling sick and being able 68 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: to walk wonky and tripping over it, and they put on 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: a show. They chalk it up a little bit. The 70 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: next thing would be where the child is able to 71 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: engage with the caregiver or the parents in an intergenerational 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: way so they can play alongside us. You know, there's 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing better than watching parents enter the child's domain 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: and come to their level and play alongside them. 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we've got to we spinny disc thing that's 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: gone into the new playground at our new library, and 77 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: the speeds at some of those kids are spinning on that. 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: It makes me dizzy just watching. 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, that's that's the value of play, right, 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: is it's a fair chance those children didn't all turn 81 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: up to play together. They all turn up individually or 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: in their families, and now they're playing alongside each other, 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: and it's teaching, teaching these children the ability to establish 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: relationships and to to learn about each other's risk fresholds 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: and then to accommodate each other and in a safe space.