1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Jonathan Kursley, US correspondence with US. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Hey, Jonathan Heather, are always good talking to the listeners now. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: But cheeky of Russia to be flowing the drones around Poland. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit cheeky for them, particularly after this 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: summit with Donald Trump a matter of a week, a 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: few weeks or so ago. Look, yes, we're seeing reports 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: of Russian drones, Rainian drones fined by Russia into Poland airspace. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: It sparked a lot of reaction from nay donations. We 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: saw fighter jets scrambled, Poland airports closed. Still some sort 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: of investigation as to whether these actually are Russian drones 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: going into Poland airspace. It would be incredibly serious. You've 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: got to keep in mind Article five of NATA that 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: says essentially an attack on one is an attack on all. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: So this is going to be very much a wash 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: this space. What is Russia's explanation for these drones going 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: into Poland air space? What is the response, what is 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: the reason behind sending in NATO fighter jets essentially to 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: try and scramble into the airspace. It's very much a 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: fraught situation, given the conflict in Ukraine, given the meeting 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: we saw with Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. But we 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: keep saying the US president has given Russian President Vladimir 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: Putin time and time and time and time again to 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: try and resolve this conflict. He showed no intention of 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: doing so. And yet again we're seeing another move. Is 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: this being fraught with danger? Is this a move to 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: try and test NATO? We're going to see a reaction, 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: likely out of Moscow in the coming out. 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Well, I just you know, I can't help but shake 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: the feel I can't. I can't shake the feeling that 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: Putin is taunting Trump because he is. Since the meeting 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: in Alaska, there has been no indication that Putin intends 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: to meet with Zelensky, And if anything, he's kind of 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: pushing the line again, isn't he. 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Well, he's very much pushing the line. I mean, you 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: look at the offer he made to Vladimir Zelenski, which 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: has come to Moscow, which is essentially, if you like, 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: that's some sort of suicide mission for the Ukrainian president, 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the idea that he would go into Moscow for talks 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: to Flatimir, who is just completely off the cards. It's 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: just not going to happen. So the offer he's put 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: on the table is not viable. And now we're seeing 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: the possibility he's taunting nater nations with this idea of 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: sending drones and pushing that boundary once again. So what 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: is the response going to be? I mean, we're sending 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: the US President out at dinner tonight in Washington, DC, 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: essentially trying to say he's making Washington DC streets saved 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: enough to go and eat dinner there. I've been there 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: in months gone by, and certainly it's been safe to 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: go out and eat dinner. There's been no idea that 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: you can't go into a restaurant. There's been no idea 53 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: you can't go and have a meal with friends. But 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: the US President is certainly trying to make his stance 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: that he is making Americans safer. But his idea of 56 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: solving the Russia U Crank conflict certainly seems well a 57 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: long way away from what he initially thought. 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 2: Anyway, Now, did the White House warn katat ll not, Well. 59 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: You're essentially getting washed in mixed messaging here. I mean, 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: what the White House said earlier on today was that 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: the White House had received intelligence from its military officials 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: that Israel was launching this strike into Katara. What we 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: heard from White House Press Secutor of Caroline Leavitt was 64 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: that Steve Wikoff, the Middle East end boy, had gone 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: to Cutter and essentially said, hey, look, this attack is 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: in coming. Kata came back within a matter of an 67 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: hour or so and said, well, I actually know. What 68 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: we got was a warning as the strikes were already happening. 69 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: And Donald Trump later clarified that, essentially saying that yes, look, 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: we tried to inform them. It was a little bit 71 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: too late, but we did what we could, is essentially 72 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: what he said. He has added that he will have 73 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: more to say in the coming day or so about 74 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: these Israeli strikes inside doa an attack that has been 75 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: condemned by the United Kingdom, by France, by Arab nations 76 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Australia has raised its concerns. We've 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: heard in the past that the New Zealand Prime Minister 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: has said, essentially that Israeli pro minist Benjamin Nja, who 79 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: has lost the plot the words a couple of weeks 80 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: ago from New Zealand's Prime minister. So look, there are 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: certainly many eyes watching this and watching the Israeli attack. 82 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: And Donald Trump says he is not happy by that. 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: We heard that in the SoundBite you played before. He 84 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: is not pleased with the way that this has gone 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: over the course of the last twenty four hours. But again, 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: what you're dealing with is with this international conflict, and 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: which with this US president is an idea of watch 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: this space. But it is a matter of how long 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: can the world continue to watch this space, because these 90 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: are conflicts that he has said he could resolve and 91 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: or could resolve quickly, and he hasn't been able to 92 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: do so yet. 93 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, very good point. Hey, thank you very much, Jonathan. 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: As always Jonathan Kursley, US correspondent. For more from Hither 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: Duplessye Alan Drive, listen live to news talks it'd be 96 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.