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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: the Mic asking, Breakfast with the Defender, Embraced the impossible

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Speaker 1: news togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: And welcome today. We are back baby. Retail sales stats

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Speaker 2: are hot. Have banks passed on that cash right cat?

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Speaker 2: And how much real competition as they're actually out there

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Speaker 2: for your business. We're going to move to estcoters into

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Speaker 2: bike lanes because the ACEC bill is rocketing and Timicating

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Speaker 2: to the Week, Richard Darnel Murray olds they're off the

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Speaker 2: bench for us as well. Posking, Welcome to Friday. Our

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Speaker 2: simple question, with seemingly no simple answer, why aren't more

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Speaker 2: people excellent? Nayla Love reported this week that they are

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Speaker 2: cracking the one billion dollar revenue mark. They're an old

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Speaker 2: company that's never cracked a billion dollars before, Nayla Lover

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Speaker 2: and Construction. Of course, Construction is apparently having or has

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Speaker 2: had a hell of a time of it lately. So

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Speaker 2: how is it a business and a tough sector can

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Speaker 2: be so outstandingly successful. They put it down to being

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Speaker 2: good at complex projects. They do those well, the reputation grows,

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Speaker 2: the word of mouth spreads, and so it goes. The

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Speaker 2: other day I discovered a coffee roaster made by a

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Speaker 2: company called Cafe Logic. Their machine is made in New Zealand. Now,

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Speaker 2: the sadness is they are one of only a handful

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Speaker 2: left that produce appliances of any sort in this country.

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Speaker 2: The thing is their machine is well classed. The bulk

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Speaker 2: of professionals who enter roasting competitions use that machine. So

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Speaker 2: what that means is we can produce appliances but don't

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Speaker 2: Mostly that'll be a price related thing. But like wine

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Speaker 2: or beef or sheep or kiwi fret or salmon, there

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Speaker 2: seems to be there is nothing stopping us producing in

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Speaker 2: small numbers if it's at the top end quality. In

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Speaker 2: the other words, the same way there's nothing stopping Nayla

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Speaker 2: love booming in an industry that isn't booming. The same

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Speaker 2: way I can name you any number of restaurants and

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Speaker 2: cafes that are doing very nicely, thank you, in a

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Speaker 2: sector that, according to the press releases, is in a

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Speaker 2: world of trouble. The same way as we heard just

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Speaker 2: this week that despite all the job market downturns and

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Speaker 2: tough times, at no time did it get any easier

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Speaker 2: to find great talent, no shortage of people, just a

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Speaker 2: shortage of excellence. There seems a pattern here, don't you think?

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Speaker 2: It seems a truism that no matter what you are

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Speaker 2: surrounded by, no matter what the circumstances, excellence will always

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Speaker 2: shine and do well. That if you are good, or

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Speaker 2: do we suggest excellent at what you do, there is

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Speaker 2: always a place for you, not just to participate, but

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Speaker 2: to succeed and excel. And while those around you flounder

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Speaker 2: and complain and blame me a lot, excellence is your

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Speaker 2: ticket to wherever it is that you want to go.

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Speaker 2: But don't tell anyone Heaven forbid. It catches on.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, which is why we're here. First, Putin's

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Speaker 2: go on talks.

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Speaker 3: At least we can see which American sidess and minds

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Speaker 3: in some way our position, which will discuss encourage and

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Speaker 3: after Alaska.

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Speaker 2: Must be hard dealing with him' Starmer's working his tail off,

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Speaker 2: given he's broken so many promises and text everyone dizzy.

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Speaker 4: We've asked everybody to make a contribution to make sure

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Speaker 4: that we can properly protect our NHS, which needs to

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Speaker 4: be there for them and their timeless when they need it,

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Speaker 4: and everybody understands that. We want to make sure that

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Speaker 4: we've got schools which are fit for the future.

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Speaker 2: Macrona, France's confirmed military service is back.

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Speaker 1: We can't go back to the time of conscription, but

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Speaker 1: we do need a mobilization.

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Speaker 5: A mobilization not.

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Speaker 6: The nation to defend itself, not against this or that enemy,

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Speaker 6: but to be ready and to be respected.

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Speaker 2: In Washington, they have gone to town on the shooting. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's a crime and a reminder of what a miss

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Speaker 2: America is, but it's also got a strong political component

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 7: We will not stop until we interview anyone and everyone

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Speaker 7: associated with the subject, the house and every piece of

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Speaker 7: his life. There is confirmation now that the subject had

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Speaker 7: a relationship in Afghanistan with partner forces.

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Speaker 2: The attorney for DC was also there.

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Speaker 8: These are dedicated service members who were performing their duties

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Speaker 8: in service to our nation and they are currently in

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Speaker 8: critical condition. They have undergone surgery. We pray for their

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Speaker 8: well being.

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Speaker 2: And the New York heads on subways getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of buzz large fee. There's a new startup that can

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Speaker 2: genetically optimize your embryos.

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Speaker 9: There are such a thing as the best baby. Right,

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Speaker 9: Bess is an eye, but the whole, the bass is

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Speaker 9: in the eye of the parents. What is best, what

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Speaker 9: something like the height of your baby.

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Speaker 2: And finally, Danish government has set up a night watch

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Speaker 2: to monitor Donald Trump. This is a new position. You

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Speaker 2: work between five at night seven in the morning local time,

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Speaker 2: provide a report to the government on anything the US

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Speaker 2: has done overnight while they slept. Now, this position was

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Speaker 2: put together when Trump threatened to take over Greenland, because

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Speaker 2: they decided anyway, nothing worse than waking up having missed

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Speaker 2: the headline. That's news of the world in ninety. As

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Speaker 2: regards France and macarn what he's trying to do here,

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Speaker 2: conscription ened it twenty five years ago in France. But

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Speaker 2: this is very as Catherine told us on Tuesday, there's

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Speaker 2: a very limited limited form. Its voluntary men and women

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Speaker 2: are ten months. You paid for it gradually brought in

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Speaker 2: next summer. You'll receive, if you can be bothered, about

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred a month to do it. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Twelve past six, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: Things aren't going well in Venezuela, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you anything new there. But the twist this

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Speaker 2: morning is they issued a sort of an ultimatum this

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Speaker 2: week to a number of airlines who had stop flying

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Speaker 2: into Venezuela because of you know what. And they said,

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Speaker 2: you've got until Thursday to come back, and if you don't,

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Speaker 2: we're going to ban you. And so six of them

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Speaker 2: didn't come back, and so they've been banned. So if

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Speaker 2: you want to get to Venezuela, Iberia, Tap, Portugal, Gold, Latin,

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Speaker 2: Abanka and Turkish airlines are no longer flying there. Fifteen

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Speaker 2: past six from Sure and Partners Andrew tellaher Good the morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike, I reckon. We're on the verge of

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Speaker 2: presenting quite a bit of good news this morning, aren't we.

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Speaker 10: Hey, before we start to all those folk listening online

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Speaker 10: in the US, happy Thanksgiving? Yes, Happy Thanksgiving because it means,

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Speaker 10: of course the US markets are closed. Yes, We've got

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Speaker 10: plenty to celebrate here. I think in New Zealand today

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Speaker 10: as well, Mike, because I may be compelled to discard

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Speaker 10: my search for flickers and embrace the green shoots. Let's

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Speaker 10: start with retail trade spend season. So it's timely incurrent,

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Speaker 10: even though we're actually just going to talk about the

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Speaker 10: third quarter retail trade figures. So three months the end

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Speaker 10: of September release yesterday by Stats in New Zealand, and

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Speaker 10: retail activity lifted one point nine percent compared to the

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Speaker 10: June quarter twenty six billion dollars spent. We're talking volumes,

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Speaker 10: actual volumes, call retail sales at one point two percent.

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Speaker 10: This is quite a lot bigger jump than was expected, Mike.

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Speaker 10: The market indications seem to be expectations around zero point

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Speaker 10: five percent lifts, so clearly the outcome well in excess

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Speaker 10: of that. These figures are adjusted for inflation and seasonal effects.

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Speaker 10: It is the largest quarterly increase since December twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 10: Key categories that moved here motor vehicles and electronic and

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Speaker 10: electric goods up seven point two and nine point eight

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Speaker 10: percent collectively. The only note of caution I would make

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Speaker 10: care is that those categories are by their very nature

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Speaker 10: quite lumpy. I mean, you don't buy a new car

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Speaker 10: every quarter. But the lift was evident across a range

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Speaker 10: of categories. So eight of the fifteen registered higher sales volsium.

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Speaker 10: That's of the categories, fourteen of the sixteen regions lifted.

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Speaker 10: Nelson South and the standouts there. But Mike, if you

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Speaker 10: just take out the noise and say, well, it's just

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Speaker 10: one quarter, If you take a step back and look

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Speaker 10: at and look at this data in a chart, there

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Speaker 10: is clearly an upward moving trend there. And I don't

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Speaker 10: think it's unreasonable to assume that the tail, when we've

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Speaker 10: got now of lower interest rates, should see this momentum

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Speaker 10: flow into Q four and into the Christmas New Year's season.

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Speaker 10: Discretionary spending does seem to be lifting, and I know

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Speaker 10: we keep saying it might, but about sort of circle

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Speaker 10: three quarters of the retail fixed mortgages repriced in the

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Speaker 10: next twelve months. That should see the aggregate rate on

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Speaker 10: the stock of mortages come which there is more money

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Speaker 10: available for discretionary spending.

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Speaker 2: This is good news. And if we spend, that means

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Speaker 2: business feels better, does it not?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's dead right now. I hope you're all sitting

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Speaker 10: down out there because there's heady stuff coming your way.

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Speaker 10: This is the A and z Business Uplook headline business

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Speaker 10: confidence jumped nine points from plus fifty eight to plus

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Speaker 10: sixty seven in November. That is the highest level for

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Speaker 10: that in eleven years. Eleven years. Expected own activity, so

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Speaker 10: people's own businesses lifted eight points to plus fifty three,

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Speaker 10: also the highest level in over ten years. From my

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Speaker 10: This is real rubber heading the road. This isn't expectations.

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Speaker 10: That lifted from plus five to plus twenty one. It's

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Speaker 10: the highest level we've seen since August twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 10: We saw the lift across all sectors, even manufacturing. And look,

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Speaker 10: much as there's a note of caution in the retail

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Speaker 10: trade numbers, the only slight hint of caution here is

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Speaker 10: that in investment intentions haven't lifted. They actually fell slightly.

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Speaker 10: And so that's people just not being quite confident enough

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Speaker 10: Hopefully that's just a little delayed. And Mike I alluded

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Speaker 10: to this yesterday. Residential property I said, I've been around

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Speaker 10: the country. I said, the real estate agents are busy.

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 10: In this survey, residential construction lifted from plus thirty six

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Speaker 10: point six to plus forty six point three, So has

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Speaker 10: it got some movement there? Hopefully this is happy days

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Speaker 10: for them. Cost pressures seem to be moderate, Inflation expectations

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Speaker 10: are under control. Wellington remains the weakest region in terms

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Speaker 10: of experience and expected activity. But I'll make two final comments, Mike.

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Speaker 10: What makes this survey to me a little more compelling

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Speaker 10: is that that divergence that we've been talking about for

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Speaker 10: months and months and months between expected activity and expectations

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Speaker 10: and experienced activity that seems to be shifting. In other words,

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Speaker 10: the here and now is starting to look a lit

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Speaker 10: little bit better. The animal spirits have woken up. Hopefully

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Speaker 10: they're roaring. But we'll leave the last word to A

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Speaker 10: and Z. Here they said the green shoots are looking

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Speaker 10: well established, So take that into Black Friday on the

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Speaker 10: weekend exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm vibing it.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 2: What are the numbers good on you?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: So thanksgiving us Max's shot. It's all about turkey, collared greens,

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Speaker 10: pumpkin pie biscuits and all that other stuff. But so

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Speaker 10: I'll give you the closes for the previous day forty seven,

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Speaker 10: four hundred and twenty seven. That was the two thirds

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Speaker 10: percent rise the for the Dow Jones. The S and

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Speaker 10: P five hundred was six eight one two about point

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Speaker 10: that was a point eight two percent rise. Current numbers

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Speaker 10: they fots you one hundred ninety six eight six they

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Speaker 10: and sixty seven, that was up one point twenty three percent,

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Speaker 2: Coup Time, Guineabassau, This time Africa? Yet again? Do you

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Speaker 2: Now in Australia, the PGA Awards have been held this week.

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Speaker 2: evidence that the turnaround is on. As Andrew mentioned a

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Speaker 2: Don't they? Q three out one point nine percent? That's

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Speaker 2: how are you very well? Indeed, do you join us

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Speaker 2: this morning with a party hatting some streamers on?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely? Look, we take any good news we can, and

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Speaker 2: What happened in Q three?

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Speaker 5: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 14: You know when you think about motor vehicles, when you

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Speaker 14: well clearly obviously happened, and that's that third quarter. So

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Speaker 14: that makes a signal difference when you take those out

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Speaker 2: The moment, that is the truth regionally fourteen of sixteen regions.

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Speaker 2: You can't argue with that. That's that's broad based, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: And just to confirm this is this is inflation adjusted.

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Speaker 2: So does that take that take the spin off them?

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Speaker 11: Well early days.

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Speaker 2: And so this is Q three. What's your vibe on

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Speaker 16: In Q four in terms of discretionary spend, the retailers

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Speaker 14: Look, we've had some news from some of the bigger

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Speaker 2: Well, let us hope. So Carolyn, always good to have

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Speaker 2: you on the program, appreciated Carolyn Young. Who's the retail

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Speaker 18: into the background of a twenty nine year old man

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Speaker 18: who opened fire on two National Guards members just a

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Speaker 18: couple of blocks in the White House. Those Guards, twenty

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Speaker 18: year old Sarah Beckstrom and twenty four year old Andrew Wolf,

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Speaker 18: were shot in the head, still in critical condition fighting

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Speaker 18: for their lives. The shooter was a twenty nine year

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Speaker 18: old who worked with a CIA backed unit in Afghanistan

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Speaker 18: during the war. He was shot during this attack, but

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Speaker 18: he is expected to survive. We now find that he

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Speaker 18: drove a cross country from Seattle, where he's been living,

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Speaker 18: with a plan to commit this attack. Apparently he was

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Speaker 18: armed with a three fifty seven revolver and after shooting

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Speaker 18: one guard member, he opened fire again as that soldier

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Speaker 18: fell to the ground. So this was just grusin as

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Speaker 18: has a witness, a man named Patrick, who says he

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Speaker 18: heard eight or nine shots. It was just shocking.

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Speaker 15: The one that was closest to me who was you know,

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Speaker 15: I mean, I don't want to make too many assumptions,

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Speaker 15: but he was leading from the head and the MPD

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Speaker 15: officer was applying pressure to his head. He was conscious,

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Speaker 15: he was moving his arms around. They were talking to him.

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Speaker 15: I don't know if he's responding back necessarily.

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Speaker 18: Well, hopefully these victims will pull through. As for the shooter,

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Speaker 18: he had worked with the CIA in Candahart in what

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Speaker 18: were called Zero Units, which was a paramilitary force plane

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Speaker 18: trained for nighttime raids on televan targets and who also

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Speaker 18: were accused by human rights groups of widespread killings of civilians.

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Speaker 18: He was one of around seventy six thousand Afghans brought

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Speaker 18: to this country and the chaos which surrounded the American withdrawal.

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Speaker 18: The shooter now is described by someone who knows him

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Speaker 18: as being disturbed by the operations of that CIA unit

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Speaker 18: and who have suffered from mental health issues. We'll see

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Speaker 18: what more emergers on this. President Trump is saying, I.

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Speaker 2: Am determined to ensure that the animal who perpetrated this

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Speaker 2: atrocity pays the steepest possible price.

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Speaker 19: Well.

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Speaker 18: In a video statement, Trump is blaming Biden, while new

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Speaker 18: information shows it was the Trump administration that approved the

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Speaker 18: shooters a soylum application just earlier this year. Trump also

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Speaker 18: railed against refugees in that speech, refugees as a whole,

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Speaker 18: and he spoke out against Somalians resettled in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Hundreds of thousands of Somalians are ripping off our country

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Speaker 2: and ripping apart that once great state.

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Speaker 18: You know, the suspected shooter is from Afghanistan. He had

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Speaker 18: nothing to do with Somalia.

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Speaker 2: Was he eating the Swans as well? Now celebration, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's Thanksgiving time for some football and some cake

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Speaker 2: and some beer.

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Speaker 18: You were talking traffic. I'm traveling only a short way

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Speaker 18: today to have Thanksgiving with some friends, which on the

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Speaker 18: travel front is pretty good because this could be the

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Speaker 18: busiest travel day in this country's history. That's what they're saying.

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Speaker 18: Nearly eighty two million people beyond the movers. The expectation,

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Speaker 18: how they do that count, but that's what they're saying,

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Speaker 18: six million flying, seventy three million or so on the roads.

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Speaker 18: The Turkey Day, of course, features what you say, the

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Speaker 18: big meal, turkey and cranberries and pecan pie and so on.

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Speaker 18: I don't eat turkey, you said, seafood inside dishes and

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Speaker 18: so on, and many others are veering away from the

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Speaker 18: traditional as well. Another friend told me yesterday they're having pizza.

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Speaker 18: I don't think the Pilgrims did that. However, there are

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Speaker 18: football games rostered and the biggest of the parades is

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Speaker 18: playing out in New York City, which is hosting the

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Speaker 18: ninety ninth version of their Macy's Parade, which began with

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Speaker 18: since the Arivo from Wicked.

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Speaker 2: Salud, It's a new day, It's a new fee.

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Speaker 18: They're also featuring Broadway performers like this Cuban themed cast

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Speaker 18: from the Buena Vista Social Club. So Mike ready to remember.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, You have a good one. We'll

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Speaker 2: catch up next week. Appreciate it very much. Richard Arnold

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Speaker 2: State Side Lions, Packers, Cowboys, Chiefs. Imagine if the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: lose again, Ay season over, I reckon and the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: are on a roll. Ravens Bengals. I'm not overly interested

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Speaker 2: in that one, but we'll see how we go. Movie time.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Thanksgiving big big box office in the state.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not literally a big box office because

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Speaker 2: no one goes to the movies anymore. But they hope

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Speaker 2: for good things that topia III. They reckon one thirty

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Speaker 2: five to one fifty for the Thanksgiving weekend. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it obviously hasn't happened. That's their anticipation. Wicked for good

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Speaker 2: they think is going to add another one hundred million.

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Speaker 2: The record is four hundred and twenty four million. This

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Speaker 2: year is going to get nowhere near it, unfortunately, which

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Speaker 2: once again sort of confirms that in a way, the

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Speaker 2: movies ain't what they used to be. Ten away from sep.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast were the Defender and Us Togs

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Speaker 1: deadb Mike.

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Speaker 2: We live on the street that connects to the motorway,

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Speaker 2: so traffic gets busy. We notice that we've been seeing

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Speaker 2: longer queues on a regular basis recently. We're wondering if

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Speaker 2: that is because the economy is picking up. Well, it's

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Speaker 2: either Black Friday or the economy, or Christmas or the

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Speaker 2: where or I don't know. Good morning, Mike. There's a

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Speaker 2: real business bars. I was at Manecow Supercenter last Thursday,

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Speaker 2: packed people buying. Katie was in them all the other

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Speaker 2: day and she said, you can't believe the number of people.

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Speaker 2: So they're all wandering. They're either all wandering around with

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Speaker 2: bubble tea or they're actually buying things. Mike, I think

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Speaker 2: the mood has changed. Last night we went to k

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Speaker 2: Mark but Tony eight thirty, expecting a few to be there.

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Speaker 2: It was packed, trolley's full, et cetera, et cetera. Can

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Speaker 2: I just say, and this is another insight into what

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Speaker 2: I was trying to say at the beginning of the program,

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Speaker 2: Renailer Love and Construction. We dealt with the company yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Courier Company. I'm not going to name them. Under different circumstances,

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Speaker 2: I might, but I'm in a good mood because it's

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Speaker 2: Christmas anyway, they're bloody useless. They're honestly. So we were

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Speaker 2: expecting something on Monday and they said to be there Monday,

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Speaker 2: Tuesday at the outside. Thursday, of course nothing to be

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Speaker 2: seen and they ring up and go, you know, and

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Speaker 2: we needed it because we got people that are involved

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Speaker 2: in it, et cetera, et cetera. And they said, look,

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Speaker 2: we will do our best by five pm fri Our Thursday.

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Speaker 2: And we said, well, can you you know is that

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Speaker 2: and they go, well, yeah, it might be, it might

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Speaker 2: not be. And then they got all crappy with this

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Speaker 2: and they said, well, it's busy. It's peak season. And

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Speaker 2: I thought, that's not a surprise, mate. It's peak season

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Speaker 2: at Christmas every time. And one of the good things

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Speaker 2: about peak season, if you're on the business of transporting stuff,

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Speaker 2: might just be you're doing more business. So how about

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Speaker 2: you employ some people and get some vans and expand

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Speaker 2: to meet the market. Bloody hell, five minutes away from

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Speaker 2: seven and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business fiber. Take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Do your job, red meat. This is more good news.

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Speaker 2: October export numbers eight hundred and twenty seven million. Is

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Speaker 2: that a lot? Yes, twenty seven percent increase on last year.

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Speaker 2: US up thirty six percent, EU up thirty one percent,

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Speaker 2: UK up one hundred and thirty percent, Canada is up

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Speaker 2: fifty five. China's down. There's still a problem. They're down eight.

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Speaker 2: There's still a problem quality quantity because the sheep. The

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Speaker 2: sheep's really the story. I mean, we're selling way more

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Speaker 2: beef than we're selling sheep. But sheep is back to

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Speaker 2: a degree. So export's up ten percent, values up forty eight.

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Speaker 2: And that's quality for you, because you know, you go

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Speaker 2: by a withered up bit of British lamb at Sainsbury's,

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Speaker 2: it's bollocks you buy a bit in New Zealand name

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Speaker 2: you know what you're talking about. Beef export's overall down seven,

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Speaker 2: but the values up fifteen. We've exported more of the

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Speaker 2: sheep meat to the EU than ever than ever, twenty

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Speaker 2: seven thousand tons to the value of three hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety million dollars worth. That's up twenty percent in quantity

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Speaker 2: but fifty six percent in value. So sheep meet is

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Speaker 2: back in a big way. The other thing that came

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Speaker 2: out of it, by the way, is that the US

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Speaker 2: continues to keep on keeping on in the terms that

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Speaker 2: they The official statement from the beef and lamb people

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Speaker 2: was the tariff scene not to be making any difference

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Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, and that's why

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Speaker 2: Trump's moved. And I'm going to be fascinating to see

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Speaker 2: the numbers after the drop down to one or two

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Speaker 2: percent from the fifteen percent it was after Trump capitulated,

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Speaker 2: because we weren't really being affected by the tariffs in

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Speaker 2: the first place, because people will buy through quality and

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Speaker 2: so if you get it back down and by the

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Speaker 2: time you get Brazil in Australia involved, then the Americans

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Speaker 2: literally cannot get enough of beef and they cannot grow enough.

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Speaker 2: There is no sign of them buying more cows. They

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Speaker 2: can't afford the cows. They don't have the land. The

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Speaker 2: lands too expense of there's no rain, it's all full

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Speaker 2: of drought. So you know they need to import it.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. So those numbers I think

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Speaker 2: are due to get even better, which is encouraging now

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Speaker 2: due to Collins this inquiry into the Phillips situation, So

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? Also we're getting insight, so Nicolat

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Speaker 2: there yesterday as a Finance minister, Jaw boning the Bejesus

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Speaker 2: out of this business of the Reserve Bank telling the

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Speaker 2: retail banks to get on with it and do the cuts?

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Speaker 2: Have the cuts been made? Are the deals out there

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Speaker 2: to be done?

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Speaker 1: We'll have a look short, credible, compelling, the breakfast show

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Speaker 1: you've con't miss it's the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way, News Talks past seven.

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Speaker 2: So we've got a public inquiring into the disappearance of

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Speaker 2: the Tom Phillips and has children. That'll look at where

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Speaker 2: the government agencies took all practicable steps to protect the

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Speaker 2: children's safety and welfared Judith Collins as the ag and

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Speaker 2: as with us good morning, Good morning Mike. Is this

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Speaker 2: standard or driven by genuine specific concern?

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Speaker 20: Well, the fact is that's very genuine specific concern. We

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Speaker 20: haven't had anything quite like this that I can certainly

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Speaker 20: recall children taken off by their father, essentially kidnapped and

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Speaker 20: then on the run for almost four years in the

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Speaker 20: bush with all sorts of people trying to do something

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Speaker 20: but actually nothing that we can see, if each way

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Speaker 20: is until he was shot and their children then saved.

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Speaker 2: In looking at the agencies involved, the government agencies involved,

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Speaker 2: do we I mean, you will know were there agencies

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Speaker 2: involved with the family prior to the event.

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Speaker 20: I don't actually know that one, but from what I

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Speaker 20: can see, it would be unusual if their work given

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Speaker 20: the whole family caught decisions around custody. So I think

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Speaker 20: what we do need to find out is what how

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Speaker 20: did they react? Goes? You know, obviously want to take

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Speaker 20: this back a little way, this inquiry so that they

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Speaker 20: can actually look at what the agencies were doing and

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Speaker 20: how they were doing it. But I think too, you know,

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Speaker 20: some we'll find that some of the agencies or the

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Speaker 20: agencies will have done some stuff that people don't know

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Speaker 20: about what was really good. The trouble is we don't

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Speaker 20: know about that, and secondly those children might not know.

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Speaker 20: I mean, this is going for the public and for

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Speaker 20: us all to know about how things worked or didn't work,

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Speaker 20: but actually it's really for the children. So I mean,

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Speaker 20: once they grow up a little bit, Mike, I think

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Speaker 20: there'd be a really helpful thing if they know that

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Speaker 20: some people tried very hard for them.

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Speaker 2: How constrained Moore? How constrained is mister Moore on this given.

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Speaker 20: He's constrained within with him within the terms of reference,

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Speaker 20: which are quite white. But they're also not going down

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Speaker 20: the pathway of reviewing the whole family court or looking

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Speaker 20: at the system as such as saying what happened in

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Speaker 20: this case, So we have to be otherwise we could

651
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Speaker 20: be going on for years, and factually, I think we

652
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Speaker 20: need to get this done, get some answers, and give

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Speaker 20: these kids something that when they're a little bit older,

654
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Speaker 20: they can say some people try their best. Some people

655
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Speaker 20: obviously didn't succeed, but at least somebody tried.

656
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Speaker 2: And how constrained will we be, given the courts and

657
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Speaker 2: the legals around it, that we will ever hear the

658
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Speaker 2: full story.

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Speaker 20: I think we'll know enough that we need to know.

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Speaker 20: I mean, obviously there's a lot of rumors flying around

661
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Speaker 20: on this, and it is important though that the detail

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Speaker 20: is to how how this was aided to happen, and

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Speaker 20: were there things that government agencies could have done better?

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Speaker 20: Are there any lessons there are there also some people

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Speaker 20: who might who might shine actually frankly from it. But

666
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Speaker 20: I think we do need to know that we don't

667
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Speaker 20: need to know all the gruesome details. We certainly don't

668
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Speaker 20: need to know what's happened with the children since we

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Speaker 20: don't need to know what's happened to the children in

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Speaker 20: the bush. I think meant it's my view why because

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Speaker 20: it's number one there's suppression orders, but also number two

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Speaker 20: it's just common decency. Frankly, these kids need a chance

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Speaker 20: to have a life.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, I appreciate. I have a good weekend,

675
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Speaker 2: Judith Collins, the Attorney General. Ten minutes past seven, the

676
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Speaker 2: jaw boning Post Reserve Bank cash righte movers begun the

677
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Speaker 2: Finance Ministy yesterday heaping pressure on the retail banks to

678
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Speaker 2: pass on those cuts in full. Well are they Bruce

679
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Speaker 2: Patten's loan market mortgage advisor and as well, there's Bruce

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Speaker 2: morning to you. Good have they No.

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Speaker 12: No, not at all. They're like a bunch of possins

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Speaker 12: in the headlights at the moment they're waiting for someone

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Speaker 12: to make the first move. They didn't all pass on

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Speaker 12: the full floating discount, and they're holding some really good

685
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Speaker 12: margins at the moment we can see that we're given

686
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Speaker 12: they're paying one and a half percent cash if you

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Speaker 12: move to them. So I'd like to succeee them pass

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Speaker 12: them on the full Christmas everybody needs it, you know,

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Speaker 12: so they somebody needs to make the move.

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Speaker 2: So if you're in the camp at the Nikola Willis

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Speaker 2: camp that we these guys are not good actors and

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Speaker 2: they're not playing their part, this is evidence to suggest

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Speaker 2: Nicola might be on to something.

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Speaker 5: Is that fair? Oh?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely? Break cost for a client for three years at

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Speaker 12: four nine to nine it's twenty grand at the moment

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Speaker 12: and you're now only getting four point seven nine for

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Speaker 12: a three year. That tells me that they could be

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Speaker 12: doing three years of at least four and a half.

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Speaker 12: So you know, there's definitely movement. Somebody needs to make it.

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Speaker 12: I'd like to see them make it in the longer

702
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Speaker 12: term because if we are at the bottom of the cycle,

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Speaker 12: people are going to want to fix for two or

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Speaker 12: three years. So there's no reason why we shouldn't have

705
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Speaker 12: of those rates at leap.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what's your vibe if you're in the fours,

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Speaker 2: If you're in the mid falls and you're locking that

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Speaker 2: up for five years, that's about as good as it gets.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, Look, if you could get five years at

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Speaker 12: four and a half, I'd be happy with that. It's

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Speaker 12: self funding, if it's an investment, you know, the rents

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Speaker 12: covering the mortgage. Everybody wins at that level.

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Speaker 2: What's your vibe on this whole break free break fee?

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Speaker 2: You know we'll give you cash. Let's change banks? Do

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Speaker 2: people change banks in big numbers? Is it easy or

716
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Speaker 2: too hard?

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Speaker 12: It depends on the client and how long they've got left.

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Speaker 12: The reality is it works for the minority of people

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Speaker 12: at this point in time, but as a whole, give

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Speaker 12: us lower interest rates longer term and everybody does better.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Bruce, good Insight, appreciate you time very much

722
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Speaker 2: and you have a good weekend. Bruce Patton, who's the

723
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Speaker 2: loan market mortgage advisor, is really disappointed. The woman whose

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Speaker 2: name it eludes me for now on the Monetary Policy

725
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Speaker 2: committee that fronted up to the press conference a couple

726
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Speaker 2: of days ago, she alluded to it as the margins

727
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Speaker 2: that the banks are running the retail banks. But she

728
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Speaker 2: alluded to it in a I don't want to get involved.

729
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Speaker 2: I'm a bit namby pamby heaven forbid, I should say

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Speaker 2: something controversial kind of way, and I don't like people

731
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Speaker 2: like that. If you've got a point to make, the

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Speaker 2: bloody point, and if the banks are ripping us off,

733
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Speaker 2: say they're ripping us off. We need to do something

734
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Speaker 2: about it. So I'm more than happy to apologize to

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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis because I've argued that I can't really make

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Speaker 2: up my mind on who's the bad actor here, whether

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Speaker 2: Nicholas is overegging this or whether the banks actually actually

738
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Speaker 2: aren't playing the board. But you know, you can't argue

739
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Speaker 2: with the margins. Look at the margins, the margins and

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Speaker 2: the margins, and the banks keep defending it, but they're

741
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Speaker 2: big margins. Thirteen past. Retail retailer is back. My daily

742
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Speaker 2: people actually carrying shopping purchases is up significantly, underpinned by

743
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Speaker 2: retailer feedback. Q four will be respectable. That's Mark Thomas.

744
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Speaker 2: Now I'm glad Mark actually texted us this morning. Mark Knopf.

745
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Speaker 2: Thomas is the is the mouthpiece for Newmarket, which is

746
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Speaker 2: Nearia in Auckland, and he won I happen to know

747
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Speaker 2: this week the Prince Award. The Prins are the public

748
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Speaker 2: Relations Institute. He won the Prince Award for I don't

749
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Speaker 2: know officially what it is, but for the best you know,

750
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Speaker 2: guys who do what he does. He won the award

751
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Speaker 2: for the best in the country. And there I suggest well,

752
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Speaker 2: deserved too, because that guy hustles for his region. He

753
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Speaker 2: is a star player and we need more of those.

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Speaker 2: this Morning. More later seventeen past seven. Now speaking of transport, actually,

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Speaker 2: he's scooters are still the thing. Acc claims have now

762
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Speaker 2: hit fourteen million this was the year so far. That's

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Speaker 2: up from say six million five years ago. So the

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Speaker 2: government is looking to move these scooters into cycle lanes.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Love is the co creator of Flamingo scooters and

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Speaker 2: is with us Jackson.

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Speaker 11: Morning, Good morning, Mike. How are you going very well?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, your ones, the purple ones is flaming to the

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Speaker 2: purple ones. Where the pink one, the pink ones. My apologies,

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Speaker 2: the key, we owned one the key. That's what we

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Speaker 2: want on some patriotism. Just give us quick insight into

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Speaker 2: the market. Is the market uses all that sort of stuff?

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Speaker 2: Is it still growing or is it settled or what.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: No, absolutely, from our perspective, it's going so yeah, good uptake,

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Speaker 21: good increase. And what we're seeing is usage move to

778
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Speaker 21: more genuine mode shifts, so much more travel on the

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Speaker 21: weekdays supposed recreationally on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's interesting because I was going to say the opposite,

781
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: but you would know more than I. I'm just seeing

782
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: a bunch of people wandering around aimlessly, so you would

783
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Speaker 2: say the last mile thing is a thing.

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Speaker 11: Now, absolutely yep.

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Speaker 21: And seeing them replace those short distance car journeys as well.

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Speaker 2: So if you put these things in bike lanes or

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Speaker 2: cycle lines, you're going to need the lanes in the

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Speaker 2: first place. So how are you going to handle that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how would that rule work if you don't

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Speaker 2: have a cycle line?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think, yeah, we're pretty lucky at the moment.

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Speaker 21: That scooters can be used on both footpaths or on

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Speaker 21: the road.

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Speaker 11: We see sort of our earlier adopters.

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Speaker 21: Wanting a comfortable location of an introduction on the footpath

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Speaker 21: and then our more experienced riders on the road, And

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Speaker 21: I think just adding the cycle paths or the cycle

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Speaker 21: lanes makes a lot of sense, you know, clears up confusion,

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Speaker 21: and it's just a wind for common sense and for

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Speaker 21: both riders.

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Speaker 2: And people would welcome it. You would argue as opposed

802
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Speaker 2: to going, we'll hold on. The more rules there are,

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Speaker 2: the less likely I am to use an EE scooter

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Speaker 2: if someone's going to ping me.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly, well, exactly right.

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Speaker 21: I think it's adding an extra option, And like you say,

807
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 21: biplanes definitely offer a safer environment than the road, but

808
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Speaker 21: also help keep footpaths clear and more comfortable for pedestrians.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys do the sit down version, like with

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Speaker 2: the seat where you sit down? Do you do that?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we have some of the sit down versions.

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Speaker 21: They prove pretty popular for the slightly longer journeys and

813
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Speaker 21: potentially increase accessibility for those who can't stand for long.

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Speaker 11: Periods, but not so much in winter.

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Speaker 22: Mic.

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Speaker 11: No one wants a wetum.

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Speaker 2: That is the truth. That is the truth. The best

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Speaker 2: quote of the morning so far. It is only seven

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Speaker 2: to twenty, but no one wants a wet bump, And

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Speaker 2: you can't argue with that sort of logic. Jackson Love

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Speaker 2: who's the co creator of Flamingo, and they are the

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Speaker 2: pink ones, not the purple ones. It is seven twenty, the.

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Speaker 2: ocr seven. I mean we got there in the end,

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Speaker 2: Actually did we.

867
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Speaker 10: Get there in the end?

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Speaker 2: Fingers crossed? Job ads eight up and significantly up. Green Shoots,

869
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: Green Shirts, Green Shoots are All's fair? Six got a

870
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Speaker 2: second season? Who lose biggest hit in the years. No,

871
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Speaker 2: it's not our a law or Shit's Creek or Friends

872
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: or Landman. But the snobbery blinded too many of the

873
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: so called critics. If you haven't seen it, give it ago.

874
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Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves too.

875
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Speaker 23: I know how worried families are about the cost of everything.

876
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Speaker 2: Have a look at her work on taxas and ask

877
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Speaker 2: yourself how far removed Barbara Edmonds's or isn't speaking of labor?

878
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: Michael Woods three? I mean, honestly, people who can't stay away,

879
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: they've got about them, don't they surrender? By Thursday four?

880
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 7: I'm not like those other politicians, I guess in many ways.

881
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't that yet another hair brain thought

882
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: bubble by a bloke who looks increasingly either unhinged, or

883
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: tired or rolled or mad or possibly all of those things.

884
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: The New Zealand Rural Game seven, some of the best

885
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: news of the week, The dog Show back on Tally,

886
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on full circle, moment past the k bars.

887
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: That's the week, copies on the website and like all

888
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: marking the weeks, this received an a from Auckland University

889
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: being doesn't everything pasking Mike adecent component of the bank's

890
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 2: cost of money is the bond markets, so not just OC.

891
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: In the last week the New Zealand ten years have

892
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: gone up, not down, as have most global bonds. So

893
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: I'd suggest this is a bit more complex than what

894
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: you think. Grant, you're right, and the more I read,

895
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: the more I listen, the more nuanced. I don't know

896
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: if it's complex, but nuanced is probably the word. And

897
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Speaker 2: so that's why I remained sort of broadly on the fence.

898
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: You can sway me either way. Nicola could spend some

899
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: time on this program and by the end of it,

900
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: I'd go, yeah, actually they're robber barons. And then equally

901
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: I get Antony Watson or Yukovich on the program, and

902
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: that swing me back the other way, because basically I'm

903
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Speaker 2: just a hopelessly confused Willy wofter re beef going to America.

904
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: Does that mean my stake here are slowly becoming unaffordable? Yes,

905
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: it does, and then that is an odd piece of

906
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: good news. It's butter two point zero because as they

907
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: pay more with their US dollars, which are vastly different

908
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: from the New Zealand peso, as they pay more, you

909
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: too will pay more for your beef, and that is

910
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: a good thing, because that is what we do as

911
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: a nation. No, it's not good that you can't afford

912
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: sake anymore, and wouldn't be nice if we or could,

913
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: But you can't. But we can't because we are making

914
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: our way in the world, and that is no bad thing.

915
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: Guitar Penultimate Round got a sprint race in there as well,

916
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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, News to tell you Peter Windsor is next.

917
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Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate, the my Hosking,

918
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Speaker 1: breakfast with the Defender, Embrace the impossible news to dead

919
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: be Just to return.

920
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: To the beef situation. So yes, I'm reading a fascinating number.

921
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: The good thing about inflation and food as far as

922
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: I can work out as this, and I didn't realize

923
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: this is that McDonald's used six thousand tons of locally

924
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Speaker 2: sourced beef in this country. Globally, they serve seventy million

925
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: people a day with beef. Two percent of the world's

926
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: beef is used at McDonald's, which I thought was a

927
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 2: semi fun fact. Anyway, beef mints is up eighteen percent.

928
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: So the overall food prices last number we got with

929
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: four point seven. The good news around that is originally

930
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: it was five and then it's gone down to four

931
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: point seven, so still up but not up by as much.

932
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: But the average price of beef is up eighteen percent.

933
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: Now that is a direct result of globally, yes, but

934
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Speaker 2: particularly America. So an answer to the text is question

935
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Speaker 2: earlier on am I going to be paying more for

936
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Speaker 2: my beef? Yes, you are, and the answers on beef

937
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: mints anyway, it's eighteen percent. But here's the good news.

938
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you might not see it as good news,

939
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: but you don't have to eat beef the same way

940
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to eat butter, and that's for inflationary purposes.

941
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: Good news for you because you don't have to buy

942
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: the things that are more expensive. You can buy the

943
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: things that are actually a bit cheaper.

944
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Speaker 6: I was going to say that the good news about

945
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 6: that is that I found that with both chicken and

946
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 6: beef getting more and more expensive, suddenly seafood and fish.

947
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Speaker 2: See if it looks good, it seems cheap as salmon isn't.

948
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Speaker 2: Because I got an alert the other day from somebody

949
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: we deal with in the salmon department. They're having trouble

950
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: with salmon at the moment in terms of supply, and

951
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: therefore the price of salmon has gone through the roof.

952
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: And Katie was reporting to me the other day she's

953
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: on after rates. I'll tell you specifically what it was,

954
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: but it was something like seventy nine or eighty dollars

955
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: a kilo, which makes it more expensive. Then I fill

956
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: it at the moment, it makes I feel it look cheap.

957
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: So we're not going to have can I say, we're

958
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: not going to have Peter Windsory's gone? Unfortunately Peter Winsor

959
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: is our f one man and we can't find them,

960
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: so I don't know where he's disappeared to, so our apologies.

961
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: But I can tell you about Liam Lawson and we'll

962
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: make a call on this. Because mecheis who is the

963
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: team principal at Red Bull. I wanted to ask Peter

964
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: about the Adrian Newey thing. It's gone off in f

965
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: one circles the Adrian Newey decision. Yesterday I told you

966
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: about it. Esthermunt's god off and everyone seems to share

967
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: the same concern I have, which is he's a genius,

968
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: and you keep geniuses in their genius department. You don't

969
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: spread them about the whole company all over the place,

970
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: because you're going to stretch them. So that's what worries

971
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: about me. Anyway, Be that as it may. So Mechis

972
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: says overnight that we're going to make the decision on

973
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: the seats for next year after Katar. So what we

974
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: got originally was Marco Helmet said after Mexico, and everyone

975
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: went after Mexico and couldn't work out whether it was

976
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: literally after Mexico or just some time after Mexico like

977
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: the end of the year. Then it got pushed back

978
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: to the end of the year. So two more races.

979
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: One is this weekend in Quitar, and then Mechis Overnight

980
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: says after Quitar this week we will be announcing the decision.

981
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: When they say making the decision I'm assuming it's already

982
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: been made, and that will mean we will know what

983
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: happens to Liam next year.

984
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 11: Now.

985
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: I had, funnily enough, a text earlier on this morning

986
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: from one of my better F one contacts who told me,

987
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: apart from anything else, I'm sidebarring here for a moment,

988
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: indulge me. There's an F one car in Adelaide this

989
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: weekend at the supercars, and David Coulthard was going to

990
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: be driving that particular car. Because David Coulthard's in Australia.

991
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: We were going to have David Coulthard on the program

992
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: at some point, but now we're not going to do

993
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: that later on next year because he's coming to the country.

994
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you about that another time. Anyway, for

995
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: some reason, we can't work out why Coulthard's not now

996
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: driving the car. It's the RB seven, the Red Bull

997
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: RB seven, that was the car of Vettel and Webber.

998
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: Vettel and Webber anyway, So who's driving the car at

999
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: Adelaide over the weekend. The answer is Brendan Hartley, So

1000
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: they're ring Brendana. Wouldn't that be good? You're sitting there,

1001
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: sitting at home in Taupo phone rings and they go,

1002
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: do you want to come to Adelaid for the weekend?

1003
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: Drive the car? He's never driven the car, and he's

1004
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: never driven on the Adelaide track street circuit of course,

1005
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: but he's so he's going across the week he's going

1006
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: to drive it. So that's going to be something quite exciting.

1007
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: Where was I right? Liam Lawson will hold a seat.

1008
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Here's my call this morning. So it seems they're obsessed

1009
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: with Lynn Ladd, who's the F two guy who's done okay,

1010
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: but he's not you know, you're not looking at him

1011
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: going oh my god, there's a talent. But it does

1012
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: put weight on the idea that racing bulls is a

1013
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: starter or a setup or a seed team. In other words,

1014
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 2: you get the young guys and you feed them into

1015
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: a red Bull itself. So that gives his decision weight.

1016
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: So you then left with Sonoda and Lawson because Hedges

1017
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: going to Red Bull. That's my other call. Everyone assumes

1018
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: Hedges going to Red Bull hasn't announced, but let's say

1019
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: Hedges going to Red Bull. So it's Sinoda v Lawson

1020
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: in the seat. What's the disadvantage in Sonoda, Well, he's

1021
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: not new, he's not young. He's been there for five years. Therefore,

1022
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: if you're putting lind Ladden in a seed team, then

1023
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: why would you keep Sinoda there? You go, Oh, for experience,

1024
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: fair enough, but Lawson's got enough experience to help him

1025
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: out and they value his engineering prowess. So that's why

1026
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: I think Lawson holds a seat and will be in

1027
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: there for twenty twenty six. The other story they tell

1028
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: you about Sonoda and no one seems to have picked

1029
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: this up, and I can't work out why is they go, Oh,

1030
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: Sonoda's going to go to Aston Martin as their reserve driver. Well,

1031
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: Aston Martin's already announced their reserve driver. It's a guy

1032
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 2: called Jack Crawford. So Jack Crawford's their reserve driver. Why

1033
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: would Snoda be their reserve driver. He wouldn't be. Hence

1034
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: the weight being put on the idea that Snoda with

1035
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: Honda are going off to Indy cars.

1036
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 6: Do we have any reason to think that Hedge is

1037
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 6: going to do any better?

1038
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: None?

1039
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 6: And the Red Bull car than Soda or indeed isn't.

1040
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: Very good question, Glynn, None whatsoever, apart from the fact

1041
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: that the car next year is a completely new car. Now,

1042
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: if they build that car to suit for stap In,

1043
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: which they will, then the second car will be the

1044
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: same problem. If they don't build it to the suit

1045
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: for stap In as much as they have this current car,

1046
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: then Hager might get lucky and he might have a

1047
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: good car, and he's a good driver, and a good

1048
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: driver will drive a good car. But a good driver

1049
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: can't drive a crazy car, which is the car they've

1050
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: got at the moment. That's the way Mike sees it.

1051
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 6: Is that one of those ones that's got the indicator

1052
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 6: on the wrong side that will throws me.

1053
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: And the gear stick with the gear six and it's

1054
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 2: a strange place and you've got to twist your ankle

1055
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: for the pedal. It's difficult.

1056
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: Seventeen to two, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

1057
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by the News Talks at Me.

1058
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: Mike Norris is about to become McLaren's most captif one

1059
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: driver at one hundred and fifty one gps, ahead of

1060
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: call Time's one hundred and fifty. I didn't know that

1061
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: that's a fun stat. He doesn't appear to have been

1062
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: around that long, mind you. That a lot of races

1063
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: these days isn't there Back in the collar days, they

1064
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: went as many races, Mike, the delay isn't deciding the

1065
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: third seats deciding who goes with Max? Is that true?

1066
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: Are you associated with an F one team? I don't

1067
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: understand that to be the case. You're saying that they're

1068
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: still thinking Sonoda might stay. I don't know that that's

1069
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: I've not heard that from anybody. Mike had just said

1070
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: in an interview this morning he has a seat for

1071
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: next year. That's not a surprise. Just watch the weekend

1072
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: build up cover at F one TV. Do you like that, Chris?

1073
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: I struggle with that. I don't know that that's a

1074
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: high quality product. I watch it most times there's a race.

1075
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Speaker 2: I just look at those and I go to these

1076
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: guys anyway. Just watch the weekend build up. Yes, they

1077
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: think Liam is safe. Note is gone.

1078
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 22: Mike.

1079
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: I know you like Lawson, but really, what's he done well?

1080
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: He's done. He's in the midfield in his inaugural season.

1081
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: He's in the midfield, and he's scored a good number

1082
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: of points and he's done reasonably well. He's had a

1083
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: bit of bad luck, but there's a good number of

1084
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: others in that field. That I jettison well, before I

1085
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: jettisoned him, Mike pstre might go to Redbill. No you won't.

1086
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: You're making that up. Stop spreading conspiracy theories. Let me

1087
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: ask you this quick question. I've got two questions to

1088
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: ask you what I have time for, So I'll go

1089
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: with this one first. Audrey Young. I'm reading her yesterday.

1090
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: I love Audrey and I love her experience and her

1091
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: institutional knowledge and the way she writes and what she

1092
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: brings to the New Zealand Herald and discussion in general.

1093
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is she handed out

1094
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: her brick bat to Christopher Luxen and she goes brick back,

1095
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: goes to Christoph Luxeon for answering playing no three times

1096
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: when asked if he was worried that nine of his

1097
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: MP's could lose their seats on current polling. Now this

1098
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: comes out of this, this what I regard as an

1099
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: increasingly infamous press conference earlier on in the week at

1100
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: the school where this math's success was announced, and the

1101
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: media completely and utterly ignored the story. Thus, yet again,

1102
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: in my mind, reaffirming just an overt bias from too

1103
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: many in the media. They hate this government, they hate Luxeon.

1104
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: They hate success, they love labor, they love dragging us

1105
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: all down because you cannot explain to me in a

1106
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: way that I can understand how you can produce the

1107
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: results in maths they have and somehow ignore that as

1108
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: a non story. Anyway. Part of the reason it was

1109
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: missed was one, there was a wyata from the pupils

1110
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: moaning about the Treaty of Waitangi and protesting the government's

1111
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: stance on it, and some of the media thought that

1112
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: was a better story. And two, once again off topic,

1113
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: one of the journalists asked Luxon about on current polling,

1114
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: you would lose nine EMPs. Are you worried about it?

1115
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 11: Now?

1116
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 5: What?

1117
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: Clearly because I watched it, Luxon was referred to us. Now,

1118
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: I'm not remotely worried about it, not because I don't

1119
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 2: care about my fellow MPs, but because on current polling,

1120
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: current polling is irrelevant, and we're not holding an election today,

1121
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: and we're not holding an election for a very long

1122
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: period of time, So why would I be worried about

1123
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: something like that?

1124
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 11: Now?

1125
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: Audrey says he should have said no because I don't

1126
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: think that will happen, But he was just saying no

1127
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: to shut down leadership questions. Now, she might be technically correct,

1128
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: but then I am the week feeling sorry for somebody.

1129
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: I mean, where you can't win, can you? If we're

1130
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: going to micromanage and dissect every little bit of minutia

1131
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: that falls out of the mouth of a politician, and

1132
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: if this is the way we're going to go for

1133
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: an entirety of twenty twenty six an election year, shoot

1134
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: me now, because if you can't work it out for

1135
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: yourself and you have to regurgitate it over and over again,

1136
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: we're going to get very sick of the year, very quickly,

1137
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: as far as I can work out. So I am

1138
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: the week feeling a bit sorry for the Prime Minister

1139
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: because you can't win ten minutes away from Ape.

1140
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: So my coffee breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks,

1141
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: there'd be Jill.

1142
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 2: And Courty shortly seven away from it. In the country

1143
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 2: that loves coffee, could we grow more and actually be

1144
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: a decent sized producer? Do you realize we grow coffee

1145
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 2: in this country? The far North is where you find

1146
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: all the beans. We got twelve grows apparently about seven

1147
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 2: thousand plants. Anyway, Peter Shepard is the chair of the

1148
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: New Zealand Coffee Producers Association, Peter Morning.

1149
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 11: Good morning mate.

1150
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: The twelve growers. Is that stable or is that increasing?

1151
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 24: That's actually increasing at quite a rate. Lots of people

1152
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 24: are starting to plant a few plants and find the

1153
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 24: right soils in the right places to grow coffee. So

1154
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 24: that's going to grow quite a lot in its coming years.

1155
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 24: All the Far North so far, all the fine norths

1156
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 24: because it has to be frost free. And you know

1157
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 24: there's a really break microclimate right up in the Far

1158
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 24: North which pretty much ensures that.

1159
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: And so see, I'm a coffee fanatic, but I didn't

1160
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: even know we made it. What does it taste like

1161
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: compared with the stuff we would get from Ethiopia or

1162
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 2: Brazil or wherever. Is it unique?

1163
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 5: Yes?

1164
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 24: Well, the whole way that the coffee industry is going

1165
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 24: like is to have specialist coffees and these can be

1166
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 24: brewed in different ways and including fermentations of the beans

1167
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 24: before the process. And so what we're going for is

1168
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 24: that really high value specialty market, collaborating with wine industry

1169
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 24: on some of the yeasts, for example, to get these

1170
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 24: unique flavors that create these really high value products.

1171
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: Wow. And so you sell. What domestically are you export?

1172
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 24: Well, there's a couple of places selling domestically at the moment,

1173
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 24: but our long term aim is to go for that

1174
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 24: high value global market wherever it might be, to create

1175
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 24: a really high value industry here.

1176
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: Have you got a volume problem at the moment with

1177
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: just twelve grass and seven thousand plants? I mean, is

1178
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: exporting a realistic possibility, not.

1179
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 24: For a couple of years. But we want a walk

1180
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 24: before we get run, so to speak. So we're learning

1181
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 24: as we go to make the highest quality product we can.

1182
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 24: At the moment, the stuff that's available, it helps pretty

1183
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 24: quickly to you know, enthusiastic coffee lovers around the country.

1184
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 24: Like all these things, it takes a few years. Plants

1185
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 24: take a while to grow, but there's huge potential here

1186
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 24: and you know, we're on the beginning of a really

1187
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 24: exciting journey.

1188
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: Are you looking at byproducts and if you are, what

1189
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: are they?

1190
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

1191
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 24: You know, the pulp that comes off be turned into

1192
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 24: a tea, for example, and that's you know, you can

1193
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 24: buy that from other places around the world as well.

1194
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 24: We're looking at processing that also in the Far North

1195
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 24: into valuable.

1196
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: Products interesting well, and we're stable in that sense, because

1197
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: of course the reason the price of coffee's gone up

1198
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: is climatically. It's a little bit of an issue globally

1199
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: at the moment, isn't it?

1200
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 24: Absolutely? And I think that's what brings us into play here.

1201
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 24: And now you know we're in a zone now thirty

1202
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 24: five degrees south in the sort of Kataya region where

1203
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 24: you know the climate is now over the last twenty

1204
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 24: thirty years got warm enough actually to make this extremely viable.

1205
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: Fantastic Peter go, well, it will stay in touch. Peter Sheppard,

1206
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: who's the chair of the News Coffee Producers Association. My

1207
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: new venture at the moment is is roasting beans. I'm

1208
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: up there this weekend roasting my second batch. I've roasted

1209
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: so far one hundred and twenty grams, which does which

1210
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: doesn't make me one of the bigger roasters. So I've

1211
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: got one hundred and twenty grams and I put it

1212
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: in my eartight container and an absolutely delicious.

1213
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 6: As Peter says, you've got to walk before you can run, exactly.

1214
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: So I'm going to roast my second one hundred and

1215
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: twenty grams this weekend, and so that will make me

1216
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: up to having roasted a whole packet and so I

1217
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 2: got also this week, by the way, an extender pack

1218
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: for my roasting machine. So that allows me to basically

1219
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: go commercial and probably roast maybe two hundred grams at

1220
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: a time. So don't hold me back. It's all on

1221
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: Tim Acadie and the business and Barnaby Joys by the way,

1222
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: Murray olds, I'm looking forward to his comic yesterday, Weird

1223
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: Thing in the House. This was in the sentence Barnaby

1224
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: resigned from the National Party, which was not unexpected, but

1225
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: he did it in ninety seconds because they all had

1226
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: a rule that they had to stand up and talk

1227
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: for ninety seconds. So he did that. Then he came

1228
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: outside and he did an interview and he made you know,

1229
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: for a bloke, he's got a sort of a slightly

1230
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: unhinged reputation. He made what I thought was some really

1231
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: really interesting comments. So more with Murray alts after a

1232
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: like thirty this morning. But as I say, Tom mcchady

1233
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: next after the news he Redews.

1234
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: Talks, asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast

1235
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently since nineteen

1236
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: seventy three, News Talks had Bow.

1237
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: Sharp Pintons is the name of the Is it a person?

1238
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a person. The inference from what I'm

1239
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: reading is it's a person. But the album is Balloon, Balloon, Balloon,

1240
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: and it's his third album. How to balance punk attitude

1241
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: with bubblegum sugar? How to make it sound that could

1242
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: easily fall into pastiche turn into something that sounds brand

1243
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: spanking you? Has he done that? Twenty one tracks, Canty's

1244
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: Not Prolific twenty one tracks, forty three minutes and thirty

1245
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: two seconds.

1246
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fair

1247
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: for Kiwi business.

1248
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: It is time to welcome to the program, Timothy Wilson

1249
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 2: and Moryn hawks Be. Good morning, Good morning, good.

1250
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 6: Morning, good morning.

1251
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 23: Can I just apologize if there's any banging, crashing, drilling

1252
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 23: in the background behind me? First of all, what you

1253
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 23: need to know, Terim is Mikes and Komotes with our

1254
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 23: tech guy, and they are constantly scheming behind my back

1255
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 23: on how to upgrade everything in the house and get bigger, better,

1256
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 23: faster tech And Mike is the most brief person around tech.

1257
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 5: So what he's not a tech guy?

1258
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: What's going?

1259
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 5: How can we scheme over tech.

1260
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 19: He's like, he's the most analogue dude you can possibly

1261
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 19: imagine exactly.

1262
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 23: But he likes big TVs. And so we've already done this,

1263
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 23: and now in another room we've got an eighty five

1264
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 23: and it's so big. I had no idea how big

1265
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 23: eighty five inches was until the two career guys who

1266
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 23: tried to carry it in were complaining they could barely

1267
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 23: carry it. And next you see to me, they said,

1268
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 23: to me, next time water a smaller TV. And I thought,

1269
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 23: And then the guys have tuned up this morning to

1270
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 23: put in them. Been here since seven thirty, big heart.

1271
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 23: Mike's like, it'll be a non event, though it'll be

1272
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 23: two minutes to be non event.

1273
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 6: I'll be still a bracket.

1274
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 23: Oh my god. The lounge is like dem ode. The

1275
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 23: bracket is coming off. Everything's going to come out. And

1276
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 23: you know what Mike's doing. He's more walking up to

1277
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 23: the country and who's dealing with it?

1278
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 5: All the you are? You are as usual?

1279
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 23: So he can sit back and watch fouring crap like

1280
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 23: Parliament TV.

1281
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 5: On Christian Time on eighty five inches.

1282
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 19: All right, okay, there's the prosecut what's the defense.

1283
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't actually have one. To be honest, it sounds

1284
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: it sounds, it sounds salty. Disturbing part. Is there a

1285
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: new arm required out of the wall?

1286
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 23: No, because it's a Samsung frame. They sit flushed to

1287
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 23: the wall. And that was the bit we forgot about.

1288
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Speaker 23: And you were like, oh, be nothing, because they'll just

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 23: stick it on that big bracket. But no, that bracket's

1290
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 23: got to come out. And then somehow we've got to

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 23: do something with the skybox. And so this is now a.

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01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: Quandary message from Jason the boss. Can you tell Paul

1293
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: we need a white skybox, not the black one. If

1294
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: we've still got a black one, we need the white

1295
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: one because the white one's got the four k.

1296
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 23: Oh really, gosh, I better tell them that.

1297
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: You tell Paul.

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01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 19: Okay, sorry, you guys just started speaking in another language.

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01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 5: But that's interesting.

1300
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the how much was salmon? This week?

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01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: You told me Katie, how much is salmon? Because they've

1302
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: got salmon problems.

1303
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 23: I don't know why you're worried about the price of salmon.

1304
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 23: Have you seen the price you.

1305
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 19: Actually, i've been I've been looking into this to help you,

1306
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 19: and I've said I've seen a joint that can do.

1307
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 5: It for the first question, what do you like at filliting?

1308
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: Mike, Oh no, no, no, no, it's going to be No.

1309
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: You've been filoting the cutting your you've been filting the banks,

1310
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: the pollyes.

1311
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 5: You can do it.

1312
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: No, I'm not just listening. So you're just saying you're

1313
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: going to sell me like a whole fish.

1314
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but you won't believe the price.

1315
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: Well, tell me how much is a high fish perkilo?

1316
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 5: Twenty two bucks?

1317
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Actually, twenty two dollars.

1318
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 5: That's pretty good.

1319
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: Here's what I've learned about this. This is markup. You

1320
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: raise a very interesting point. So if you can sell

1321
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: me a fish for twenty two dollars by the time

1322
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: it gets smoked a in a bit of plastic at

1323
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: ninety dollars, someone's doing something, aren't they. Someone's clipping that ticket.

1324
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: I was talking to Carl, my coffee guy, and so

1325
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: you get your beans at Tha.

1326
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 5: Sorry is this your bean bloke?

1327
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: You've been getting your beans from Carl? Yeah, let's just

1328
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: pause on that.

1329
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 23: Carl, the coffee bloke. Now he was round because Mike

1330
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 23: was upgrading coffee machines, and.

1331
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 19: So he was here yesterday doing this Okay, it's like

1332
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 19: you live with a three year old. We live with

1333
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 19: an actual three year old, but you've got sex.

1334
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: But the point he loved was good. This was the

1335
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: point he made. He said, you see a lot of

1336
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: craft brewers going bust, but you don't see any coffee

1337
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: roasters going bust. And I thought, actually, Ago, I think

1338
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: Carl true that Carl, And I said Carl true there,

1339
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: So I think he's on to something. Anyway, Where will

1340
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: we well, so what do you want me to say? Katie?

1341
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: You want me to come home? Is that what you're saying?

1342
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 8: I want you.

1343
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 23: No, I don't want you to come home because you'll

1344
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 23: freak out. I want you to stay away for as

1345
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 23: long as possible. But don't underestimate how long it's going

1346
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 23: to take, because you and your whole you'll be five

1347
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 23: minutes and you'll be straight up for the country behind me.

1348
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 23: I can be here for hours. So you just go

1349
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 23: and enjoy yourself. Get some snooker under your belt.

1350
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 19: Where you go, Yeah, get some have some coffee beans,

1351
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 19: you know, roast another what roast another five five grams

1352
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 19: or so?

1353
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: I need to talk to shall we just a quick question?

1354
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 2: Shall we pay? Are you excited about the Dog Show

1355
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: just quickly tim coming back on television next year. Did

1356
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: you want to tell us?

1357
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 5: Of course, of course everyone watched the Dog Show. I

1358
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 5: do not know if it's a movie though. Here's the deal.

1359
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 5: I'm not sure it's a movie.

1360
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: No, it's not a movie. But I'm not talking about

1361
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: the movie. I'm talking about the dog Show. The Rural

1362
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: Games coming back on television next year. It will be

1363
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: like country Calendar. They'll show part of the games. One

1364
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: of the whighlights of the Rural Game is going to

1365
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: be a dog show, so dogs will round up sheet.

1366
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: Would you watch that now or is that just a

1367
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: memory thing?

1368
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 5: Totally?

1369
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 19: Some some some bloke holding an extinguished rollie going get.

1370
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 5: Him behind Mongrel Morel said, Mongrel, cut it out? Could

1371
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 5: you brilliant?

1372
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 2: Would you confidently say you could put your kids in

1373
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: front of that television now and go, hit kids, this

1374
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: is what I did when I was young. Have a

1375
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: look at this and see what you think and they'd go, Wow,

1376
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: that's cool. Or would they just go what the hell

1377
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: are you looking at?

1378
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 5: Dad? I think I think I don't have to work

1379
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 5: on the offering about I might have to do a

1380
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 5: bit of phillotine.

1381
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Now, Simon Dello, should we pay

1382
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: tribute to Simon Dello after the break or not?

1383
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do that now.

1384
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: We should because you like you, Cadie, to set this up?

1385
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: You work with Simon? Am I correct in saying that?

1386
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 23: Yeah? Yeah, great guy.

1387
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: Have you got some really cool gossip for us?

1388
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 9: No?

1389
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 23: I don't really have a fun anecdote for you or

1390
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 23: some good gossip because Simon is a very contained human.

1391
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 23: He's professional, and he is very much workers work and

1392
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 23: his life is outside of work.

1393
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: What about you, Timm, you got some dirt?

1394
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 6: Oh?

1395
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 11: He does, he does.

1396
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 5: Anecdote, he does, he does. It's not it's not there.

1397
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: You should have said, had a little bit di and OK,

1398
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of jail now for it's gone. Moment's gone.

1399
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Fourteen past the.

1400
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Cowered by

1401
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1402
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: B News Talks, seventeen past eight.

1403
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees, fighting for Fear

1404
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: for Kiwi Business.

1405
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: Played first fifteen rugby with Simon Della in eighty one,

1406
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: played number eight, known for his spiral goalkicking, quite the skill.

1407
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: Never seen him since I think We knew that, didn't we.

1408
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: I think we knew he was a rugby player.

1409
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 23: He's one of those people that are really good at everything.

1410
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 23: He's a really he's very competent guy.

1411
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 19: And he's a he's a thoughtful guy too, Like I mean,

1412
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 19: just in terms of he he's someone who actually understood

1413
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 19: the weight of the you know, the role he was fulfilling,

1414
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 19: which is sort of you know, the guy who passed

1415
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 19: the news on. It's sort of interesting in the sense

1416
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 19: that he has got his departure.

1417
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 5: Is the end of an era.

1418
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 19: It's a bit like, you know, you're you're talking about

1419
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 19: the dog show, where everyone watched the dog show. Everyone

1420
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 19: used to watch the six pm news, and now we're

1421
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 19: increasing our public square. You know, you could talk about

1422
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 19: it the next day, but now our sort of public

1423
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 19: shared square.

1424
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 5: It's completely fragmented that.

1425
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: It was one hundred percentury. Just to explain to everyone

1426
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: in case and no one knows what the hell we're

1427
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: talking about, and they're not up with it. Simon is

1428
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: reading his last bulletin tonight. He as far as I know,

1429
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: he's retiring and going to wander off into the world

1430
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: and do some travel and stuff, which is I'm in

1431
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: a way kind of envious of. But you now, you, Kadie,

1432
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,479
Speaker 2: you worked with them? Was it on TV two?

1433
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 23: No? TV one?

1434
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: Didn't you do the TV two thing? Who did the

1435
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: TV two thing? For a while there was news headlines

1436
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: or news at night or something weird liked that.

1437
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 23: I did a bit of TV two briefly, but there

1438
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 23: was cal.

1439
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: It just like you just denied working on TV two

1440
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: and you just said, no, I did work on TV two.

1441
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 23: It was just a brief thing. No that was that

1442
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 23: was a different thing. And then we went back to

1443
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 23: TV one.

1444
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: But see Carl Stefanovic. Now there's a name people are

1445
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: going to go hold on. See Carl Stefanovic is like

1446
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: a major name in Australian television these days. Did you

1447
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: set it on the great things back in TV two

1448
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: when you work for TV two?

1449
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 23: It was funny because he was on a trajectory, so

1450
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 23: he came here and he was part of that whole

1451
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 23: Australians who come into a stunt to New Zealand sort

1452
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 23: of like you know, go do some time and get

1453
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 23: some roles fronting, and then when you go back it's

1454
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 23: you know, it's sort of it speeds up their trajectory

1455
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 23: when they go back to Australia, so he was doing that.

1456
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 23: So he was always on a pathway to great things.

1457
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 23: So he was here just to kind of get some

1458
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 23: runs on the well. But he was also a really

1459
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 23: cool guy. But what I love about Simon and Tim

1460
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 23: is so right. It is the end of an era.

1461
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 23: He's old school. He's that old school professional who you know,

1462
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 23: really thought about the job. And he was always an

1463
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 23: incredibly gracious co host, you know, which is really I

1464
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 23: think anyone who's worked in tandem with anyone else appreciates

1465
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 23: when the cohurst you're working with is generous and gracious

1466
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 23: and thoughtful. That's really key, and that's often something the

1467
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 23: viewers may not be aware of. But it's nice to

1468
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 23: sit on a set with someone who is so, you know,

1469
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 23: just professional and polite and lovely and gracious.

1470
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you said it better than I was

1471
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: going to Tim, and that and that is that, news readers.

1472
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 2: He's the last of them, I say, without standing on

1473
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: anyone's feet and insulting anybody who still does the job.

1474
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: I think he's the last of the proper ones these days. Sadly,

1475
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: it would appear that you wanted down a corridor and go,

1476
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: oh you're here today, are you?

1477
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 11: Well?

1478
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: You can read the bulletin tonight. That's got that vibe

1479
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: about it. And I think he's the last of them.

1480
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: And I'm a bit sad about that.

1481
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 23: And here's the thing, because it's a very much an

1482
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 23: institutionalized thing when you get locked into TVs for too

1483
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 23: long and getting out of it, said.

1484
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: Him free, said him free. The thing that it's the subliminal.

1485
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: And I'll say this about him, You never doubt he

1486
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: knows what he's talking about. And there's many a newsreader

1487
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: you go. You clearly have no idea what you're saying.

1488
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 19: We're just reading, you're just reading shapes on the teleprompet.

1489
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 23: He's a really really really bright guy. He is smart,

1490
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 23: super super smart.

1491
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: And to his credit, I mean, we didn't ask him

1492
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: to come on the program, but now having said all

1493
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: this nice stuff about him, I feel like we should have.

1494
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: But the thing is that he probably would have said nothing.

1495
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 5: He would have know he doesn't like talking about himself. No,

1496
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 5: he's actually very self contained.

1497
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:37,879
Speaker 23: That's for he and you difference.

1498
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 19: No one knows about how big is TV screen and

1499
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 19: how the place is being destroyed to install them to be.

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Speaker 23: Fair, you are also actually quite like Simon and that

1501
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 23: you are also an introvert and you don't caught a

1502
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 23: lot of external publicity at all. Infect you hate it, and.

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01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: So it's one of the great secrets of modern broadcasting. Actually,

1504
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: most most people are introbutes that are in the public eye.

1505
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: It's it's not a widely known in fact, how long

1506
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: should I wait for you, Katie to come up to

1507
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: the country and when do I call somebody in an

1508
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: emergency situation? If things have gone horribly wrong, now it

1509
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: will be good.

1510
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 23: Can you hear the drilling or is that just me?

1511
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 23: I've shut a door so that you can't hear, but

1512
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 23: there is drilling going on. I'm confident I'll get up today.

1513
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 23: I just don't know.

1514
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 19: So you just carry on, maybe take yourself off to

1515
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 19: Black Friday.

1516
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 5: I've got a deal for you. What do you got

1517
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,440
Speaker 5: the Nerve Zombie corruptor eighteen.

1518
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 19: Dart removable clip since no batteries required and also down

1519
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 19: from forty five to twenty bucks.

1520
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 2: Bargain. Get me one.

1521
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 5: Nerf wars in the country. You and Katie. You can

1522
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: make up for.

1523
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: The effect gave me to summertime fun anyway. Nice to

1524
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: see you guys, enjoy you Black Friday. Tim Wilson Kate

1525
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 2: Hawks for you today twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida Retirement, Communities News togs

1527
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Speaker 1: Hea'd be.

1528
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: Biggest, the biggest sale of the years. Here we got

1529
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: Chemist Warehouse Black Friday Sale. It's on right now. You

1530
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: get up to fifty percent off those big brands store wide.

1531
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: Includes massive savings across health, beauty and wellness essential so

1532
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: you can support the well being with the Swiss Vitamins

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: now at to fifty percent off. Stock up on the

1534
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: Minuoka Health Honey savings up to thirty percent off. Change

1535
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: up the old skincare routine with the Glow Lab skincare

1536
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: range now forty percent off. No better time to save

1537
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: on the brands you love with the offers this week

1538
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: only at chemist Warehouse. But you'll need to hurry because

1539
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: the Chemist Warehouse Black Friday Sale ends when thirtieth of November,

1540
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: So you got two days in store. Yes, online, click

1541
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: and collect if you liked our fast delivery straight to

1542
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: the door, teas and sea supply. But those great savings

1543
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: every day cannot last, but they're on now. A Chemist

1544
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 2: Warehouse Husky nineteen sixty nine, Simon Dallo assisted as mother

1545
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: cleaning the Panmeua police station. His father was the senior

1546
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: start in charge of men Are you kidding Me? Nineteen

1547
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: sixty niney cleaning the Panmea police station. It's like an

1548
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: episode of This is Your Life? Simon in nineteen sixty nine.

1549
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 6: You and I either, I wouldn't have thought he was

1550
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 6: that old.

1551
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: Well he's sixty one.

1552
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 6: Wow, so he's super old.

1553
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: That's super old. It's older than me. Say, he would

1554
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: have been like sex or seven. Simon and his is

1555
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: very committed to his old schools in Peter's College in Norkland.

1556
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: He's very unassuming man. It's a very nice way of

1557
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: putting it. Simon was a fine player for the North

1558
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: Shall rugby team. Mike landed on the remarkables in a

1559
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: helicopter with Simon at the Queenstown Festival. There you go,

1560
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: that's a bit of the private life there. Guy's got

1561
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: his own helicopter. Actually, I don't think he's got his

1562
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: own helicopter. M So that's nice. ABC interesting story out

1563
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: of Australia and I'm going to be asking Luxon about

1564
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: this on Monday. The ABC alone is going to get

1565
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars. Who from well, all the streaming companies

1566
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: that have agreed to pay for local broadcasting. So if

1567
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: it's working there, why isn't it working here? And if

1568
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: they've got a law passed, how come we don't have

1569
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: a law pasted anyway? Murray Olds from across the Tasman

1570
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: After the News, which.

1571
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:59,919
Speaker 1: Is next opinion edit, Informed, unapologetic, the mic asking breakfast

1572
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: with a Vita, retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News Talks

1573
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: head be.

1574
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: Mike Simon's been a generous supporter and ambassador of the

1575
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: Children's charity Variety for over ten years. Really says no

1576
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: when we need him. He's a treasure to us and

1577
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: we will miss him enormously. It's very nice. Thank you, Catherine, Mike.

1578
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: Big weekend coming go most it in the Mustang years.

1579
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: Watching him being interviewed yesterday along with Ryan Wood. That

1580
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: was a fun thing in Adelaide Lawson at Racing Bulls

1581
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: and Burling and the GP. Have a great weekend, Pete,

1582
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 2: you have a great weekend as well. Twenty three to.

1583
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of

1584
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

1585
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 22: Murray Old, how are you good morning, Mike, Yeah, pretty

1586
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 22: good after a busy week final the final week of

1587
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 22: the parliamentary City year of camera.

1588
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 2: What arm would you be paying for a kilo of

1589
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: salmon at the moment at your place?

1590
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 22: A kilo of salmon actually brought salmon the start of

1591
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 22: this week. And it's about low forties, low forty dollars,

1592
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 22: you know, like it depends where you go. You can

1593
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 22: get it at the supermarkets so on for low forties

1594
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 22: you probably pay a bit more at a fishmonger.

1595
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: Right, So we're running seventy two to ninety so yeah,

1596
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 2: I know, it's why, it's why all the New Zealanders

1597
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 2: are coming to Australia.

1598
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 22: It's why seventy.

1599
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: And have you seen the New Zealand dollar at the

1600
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: moment's buying eighty seven Australian seints? I mean, what's going

1601
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: on there?

1602
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 22: Made a leg of lamb, you'd be spending thirty five

1603
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 22: to forty dollars or a leg of lamb over here?

1604
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: Is that New Zealand lamb or Australian lam because there's

1605
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: a big difference, Murray, as you well know.

1606
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 22: No kidding. I once had a meal in Budapest one

1607
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 22: night and I said to the way that these lamb

1608
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 22: chops are magnificent, the best I think I've ever had.

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01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 22: He said, they come from New Zealand.

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01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: I love it. The inflation number now this, now, see

1611
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: explain this to me. How come? Well, how come you

1612
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: haven't got that under control? What's going on?

1613
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 22: Not sure? One are the reasons being put forward is

1614
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 22: perhaps the Reserve Bank, the central Bank over here, the

1615
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 22: Reserve Bank at of Michelle Bullock as ease interest rates

1616
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 22: three times this year, and maybe that's kind of created

1617
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 22: a false impression that the economy is tracking well well.

1618
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 22: This number landed three point eight percent, the headline the

1619
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 22: headline number underlying inflation three point three but both well

1620
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 22: above the Reserve Bank's target range of two to three percent.

1621
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 22: I mean, it's embarrassing for the Prime Minister. Earlier this

1622
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 22: year he said, no, we've turned a corner on inflation. Well, well,

1623
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 22: no we haven't. And here's the thing over here, people

1624
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 22: groaning under the weight of the enormous mortgages that are

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 22: paying off at ever higher interest rates. Rates aren't going

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 22: to come down next year, according to economists, and in

1627
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 22: fact that there's more likelihood might be going to go

1628
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 22: up on the back of this inflation figure, and we're

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01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 22: expecting a record spend this Christmas, billions of dollars to

1630
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 22: be spent by people who haven't got a lot of money.

1631
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: And well, as long as you're bullish about it now listen.

1632
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can answer me this question.

1633
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: But I was watching Senate yesterday Barnaby. They were all

1634
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: talking in ninety second blocks, so Barnaby had to resign

1635
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: in a ninety second block. So he didn't say anything.

1636
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a valedictory, and I couldn't understand that.

1637
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: And then I saw him walk out to the journalists

1638
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 2: in the yard there and he had a conference and

1639
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: I actually I haven't heard him talk a lot, but

1640
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 2: he talked about basically the National Party had left him,

1641
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 2: the world is moving on the Coalition. He would love

1642
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 2: them to win. He doesn't know they will. But your independence,

1643
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 2: your teals, all that sort of stuff. It's like asking

1644
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: for the Broadsheets to come back. They're not coming back.

1645
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: You either go with it or you get run over

1646
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: by it. And I thought that's actually quite intelligent.

1647
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 22: Well, yeah, the only one who probably thinks so, I

1648
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 22: mean Brannabie Joyce is. He's a skid mark on the

1649
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 22: underpants of Australian politics. As far as a lot of

1650
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 22: people are concerned, He's just a joke. I mean here

1651
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 22: he is lying on his back in Canberra. Fest is

1652
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 22: the Lord talking and it was phone with his feet

1653
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 22: up on the planter box. This is the guy who's

1654
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 22: twice been the Deputy Prime Minister and now he's trailing

1655
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 22: his coat. Oh, I've got to leave. He just hates

1656
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 22: David Little Proud who took his job the leader of

1657
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 22: the Nationals Party. Have here and he's trailing his coat

1658
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,440
Speaker 22: to up into bed with Pauline Hanson. Well, I hope metaphorically.

1659
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 22: You know she's down there the other night cooking him

1660
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 22: steak in her office. Imagine cooking a waggy steak mic

1661
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 22: on your sandwich press. I mean your staff would do

1662
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 22: that if you're camping in the Australian outback, but not

1663
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 22: in a parliamentary office. It's just ridiculous. The two of

1664
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 22: them deserve each other. Although having said that, she is

1665
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 22: now riding a wave of popularity for one nation we've

1666
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 22: never seen eighteen percent according to one Pole this week,

1667
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 22: eighteen percent and the Coalition at twenty four. I mean,

1668
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 22: what the world has turned on its head and Australian.

1669
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 2: Point on that was Barno's entire point. He's talking about

1670
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: people like Farage and he's talking about people like Hanson.

1671
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: And if you look at eighteen percent, translate that into

1672
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: seats plus the teals plus the independence, that's a massive

1673
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: wedge of Australian political life, isn't it?

1674
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 11: Well?

1675
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 22: It is? I mean is that going to translate at

1676
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 22: the ballot box for paul In Hanson? I mean, the

1677
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 22: beer is going to come out of her balloon very quickly,

1678
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 22: as soon as any sort of scrutinies applied to it.

1679
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 22: She's been around for thirty years and hasn't fired a shot.

1680
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 22: She got some seats in the Queensland Parliament, the State

1681
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 22: Parliament eleven seats I think back in the day twenty

1682
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 22: years ago, but realistically she's got no seats in the

1683
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 22: lower House. You got a bunch of body tenfoil hat

1684
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 22: wearing halfwits in the Senate with her. I mean, you

1685
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 22: wouldn't feed any of them if it was up to me,

1686
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 22: I just but he kick them out. They're useless, absolutely useless.

1687
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,480
Speaker 22: This Narroo. It remains me seen.

1688
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: This Nau thing that I've become increasingly interested by this

1689
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 2: and our other Australian corresponds Steve Price, he said the

1690
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 2: other day that Australia doesn't broadly care because it's a

1691
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: long way away and as long as he's shuffling all

1692
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: the crooks off there, then what's the matter. But I

1693
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: mean the more I look into this, the not the

1694
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 2: deal itself, but the two point five billion, they're not

1695
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: going to tell you what's in it. And it's thirty

1696
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: years long. And now we've got this guy, this president

1697
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: of Nauru. He's taking money on the backhand and Albany's

1698
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: knew before he signed the current deal. I mean, how

1699
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: dodgy is this?

1700
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 22: Well, on the service, it's very dodgy. I mean, Price

1701
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 22: is right, I mean out of side, out of mind.

1702
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 22: People don't care. That's about how much money's going to Naharu.

1703
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 22: Broadly speaking, the Greens have made a heck of a

1704
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 22: heck of a meal of this in the Senate. I

1705
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 22: mean basically they said the federal government has turned a

1706
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 22: blind eye to corruption on an epics. I mean, who

1707
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 22: would have thought it? Hey, Nahu it's I mean, Naharu

1708
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 22: is the size of pooka Koei two and a half

1709
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 22: billion dollars, you know, and expect nothing to go wrong.

1710
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 22: Oh look, this truckload of money fell off the back

1711
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 22: of an even bigger truck. Of course is going to

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Speaker 22: be corruption. Of course, it's going to be backhanders, but

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Speaker 22: out of side, out of mind, as Price he said.

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Speaker 22: And it's not as that the Greens are just flailing

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Speaker 22: around and pointing fingers in the dark Ostrak. I mean

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Speaker 22: it's the Financial Intelligence Agency over here. OSTRAK has been

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Speaker 22: reporting on this to the government. The Greens read some

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Speaker 22: of that into handsard in the Senate and basically, yes,

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01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 22: the government didn't know that this money was going to

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Speaker 22: people that perhaps weren't going to be as squeaky clean

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Speaker 22: as as everybody would have liked. And really, is it

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01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 22: any surprise that there's going to be a bit loved

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Speaker 22: along the way. Million dollars year, million dollars they're out

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Speaker 22: of two and a half billion. It's just small change.

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Speaker 2: I love it all right, mate, you go well this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it as always. Murray Olds out of Australia. This

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Speaker 2: was what they write this morning about Barnaby. I think

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: it's a very nice piece of writing. Apart from anything.

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01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: In the end, Barnaby Joyce didn't so much leave the

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Speaker 2: Nationals as quietly concede they already left him. He stood

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01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 2: up from the Opposition back benches in the House of

1732
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: Representatives as though he'd wandered into his own political wake.

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01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: The guest of honor, the eulogist, and in a way

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Speaker 2: the body as well put us in at sixteen too.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 2: Going to text from Paul at home as doing the TV,

1738
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 2: asked where the shut off tap for our water man

1739
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: is in case they hit a pipe? Is that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty standard when you're putting a TV up.

1741
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 6: I think you want to make sure that the waters off.

1742
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 6: I thought, what hopefully the gas is off as well.

1743
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Speaker 6: Be a shame of you, Be a shame of when

1744
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 6: you do eventually get home after the weekend that there's

1745
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,600
Speaker 6: just like a crater in the ground. The house is

1746
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 6: blown up.

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Speaker 2: Television's beautifully presented, but it doesn't work due to the water.

1748
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: There's a very good piece if you want to read it,

1749
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: if you can be bothered, if you want to sort

1750
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 2: of lift yourself up a little bit Australia the New Zealand,

1751
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 2: Which is better? A British traveler's verdict. This was in

1752
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Speaker 2: the Sidney Morning Herald yesterday. Guy called Mark Chipperfield. Isn't

1753
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 2: it wonderfully British Chipperfield anyway? At the age of nineteen,

1754
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 2: he's working at a kitchenhand and Brisbane hotel and his

1755
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: fellow potwasher was a guy called Stewart, who is a Kiwi,

1756
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: encouraged him to cross the ditch and visit New Zealand.

1757
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: He spent six months here, the happiest, most adventure field

1758
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Speaker 2: and convivial of his life. He says the two countries

1759
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: could not be more different, which is probably not our

1760
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: view of it. Is it anyway? He goes through cities

1761
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: and nightlife. He gives Australia eight, New Zealand six, So

1762
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: Australia wins landscapes and beaches. I think you can probably

1763
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: guess who the winner there is. Australia eight news zeale

1764
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: than ten accommodation. I was slightly surprised because he scored

1765
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: us even at eight each out of ten. I would

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Speaker 2: argue the very best accommodation Australia is better than the

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01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: very best of accommodation here. History and culture, what do

1768
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 2: you reckon? He scored on history and culture. Well, in

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01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: Australia he gave them a six. He gave us an eight.

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01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: Food and drink, now I had a a well, I

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01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 2: thought Australia would be better, and they are Australia eight,

1772
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: New Zealand seven, So that's interesting. I would have argued

1773
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: once again that Australian food and culture is significantly better

1774
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: than New Zealand. But obviously he disagrees with me general experience,

1775
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: which is what I always It's a vibe. Do you

1776
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: feel good about it? He gave Australia seven, New Zealand nine.

1777
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: Value for money. Now there's an interesting one, given what

1778
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 2: Murray's just told you about the price of salmon and

1779
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: a leg of lamb. Australia better value for money at

1780
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 2: six out of ten, New Zealand five out of ten,

1781
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: where we're too expensive. That's our problem. The only thing

1782
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 2: helping us this is the PAESO. The final result we

1783
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: nicck it. So from his point of view, New Zealand

1784
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: at fifty three points ahead of Australia fifty one as

1785
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: a travel destination. So officially, according to one person. We

1786
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: are better. But it's in the Sydney Morning Herald. It's

1787
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: much more detail in it and that's well worth reading

1788
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: if you want to, as I say, lift yourself up

1789
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Speaker 2: a bit ten away from nine.

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Speaker 2: It is a chance to think about what really matters.

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1815
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1816
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Speaker 2: I think we're dealing with an ext bert here Coffee

1817
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Speaker 2: like the one from up North, which is what we

1818
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Speaker 2: were talking about before. Eight would get lost in an

1819
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Speaker 2: espresso best enjoyed as a filter, which I don't enjoy.

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Speaker 22: Better.

1821
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Speaker 2: Wish them luck. I home roast to Brazil based been

1822
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Speaker 2: with fifteen percent robuster and make it on a liver

1823
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Speaker 2: espresso machine sometimes a swear armond Naples. It's living, Isn't

1824
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Speaker 2: it be able to talk like that? There's a poll

1825
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: out this morning on Rachel reason. We've got to spend

1826
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: some time on this, probably next year. But if you

1827
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: ever want an example of what crazy people who don't

1828
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 2: know about the economy can do really, really quickly to

1829
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 2: an economy, either studying the Labor government of twenty twenty

1830
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: twenty three, or look at Rachel Reeves at this current

1831
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: point in time. This poll out this morning, ninety five

1832
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Speaker 2: percent ninety five felt the country's heading in the wrong direction.

1833
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: Fifty four percent were convinced they will be much worse

1834
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: off this time next year. Ninety three percent feel the

1835
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: Prime Minister and Chancellor do not understand the challenges facing

1836
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 2: the country. So out of her tax raideth on yesterday,

1837
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: a quarter of all the working population will be paying

1838
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: more a quarter. The tax burden will reach a three

1839
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: one hundred year high as a proportion of GDP. And

1840
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: that's the beauty of an old country, never a three

1841
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: hundred year high. That's how Rachel sees it. Five minutes

1842
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Speaker 2: away from.

1843
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Speaker 1: Nine trending now with chemist wares, they sailed, Oh.

1844
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: No, forty six million turkeys will be eaten today in

1845
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: the US. Actually, I probably should have done how many

1846
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 2: turkeys do you reckon it'll be in the US today?

1847
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: That would have been a more fun thing to do,

1848
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: wouldn't it. And I could have offered prizes and we

1849
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: could have turned it into a whole thing, but anyway,

1850
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 2: I gave it away forty six million. However, lenit. She's

1851
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: from Love and Arms, which is a turkey sanctuary. She's

1852
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 2: wanting Americans this year to adopt rather than neat.

1853
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Speaker 17: They have been bred by humans to get so big

1854
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 17: that their bodies just can't handle it. Their joints can't

1855
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 17: keep up with the weight that their bodies have been

1856
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 17: forced to put on, and then they don't get to

1857
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 17: live their full lives. So a turkey at a sanctuary

1858
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 17: can live eight to ten years. In a factory farm,

1859
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 17: they typically live three to four months, and people don't

1860
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 17: get the opportunity to see how incredible turkeys can be

1861
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,520
Speaker 17: when they're in a sanctuary. Much like our companion animals,

1862
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 17: they're capable of love and affection, they have complex emotions,

1863
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 17: and they're really great to hang out with.

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01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 2: That's a big cell. I don't think they got complex

1865
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: emotions at all. My guests this week? How good was

1866
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 2: my guest this week? Somebody said to me, how long

1867
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 2: you're here to turkey libs? And I said eight years?

1868
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: And it's actually was it five or ten? I think

1869
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: it was five and a farm, wasn't it? Or four

1870
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 2: months according to her. But but I guessed about right.

1871
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: So it's not a long life as long as it's

1872
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: a good lie, mind you. That's like the French and

1873
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 2: the ducks. They stuffed those ducks full of stating out

1874
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: for the frog, guar and the peate and stuff like that,

1875
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: you know, and you fought you're for that or no,

1876
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: no I'm not. No, no, I'm not for five guar.

1877
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm not for pet and I'm not for turkey. I

1878
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: like a simple I like a simple celler.

1879
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 22: That's me.

1880
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Speaker 2: Just a couple of leaves and a few tomorrow, that's me.

1881
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: I'm a simple man, simple man with a little bit

1882
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Speaker 2: of a spoodches. That's place I go on Monday Happy Days.

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