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Speaker 2: This week on The Big League Podcast, Warriors winger Dallan

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Speaker 2: watsenis a lesniak, joins us in the studio to discuss

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Speaker 2: his injury recovery, retirement timeline and why he's choosing to

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Speaker 2: represent Tonga instead of the Kiwis. I'm back from illness

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Speaker 2: and Alex Powell has in off the interchange from Michael Burgess.

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Speaker 2: Can the Warriors upset a formidable Manly Seagal side. My

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Speaker 2: name is Nathan Limb. Let's go good b l V nervous.

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Speaker 2: I'm nervous. I'm nervous. Over the weekend we were treated

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Speaker 2: to some of the most dynamic attacking rugby league we've

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Speaker 2: ever seen to start the competition. Three standout performances, namely

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Speaker 2: from Brisbane, Melbourne and Manly, the Warrior's next opponents. It

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Speaker 2: was the first time in NRL history multiple teams scored

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Speaker 2: fifty points in round one. This early in the season,

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Speaker 2: we are witnessing seamless, electrifying football and you know what

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Speaker 2: it makes me feel sick. Let's be brutally honest. The

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Speaker 2: Warriors were poor in Las Vegas, really poor. As discussed

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Speaker 2: last week, the Warriors attack looked aimless and uninspired. But

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Speaker 2: I reckon I know how to fix it. It's clear

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Speaker 2: the Warriors need leadership in the playmaking stock. So I

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Speaker 2: say bringing to Midy Martin into five eighth, persist with

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Speaker 2: Luke Metcalf at halfback he's only had one game, and

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Speaker 2: start Dylan Walker at locke Ford. The Warrior's attack undoubtedly

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Speaker 2: looked better with Walker's injections and with Martin's calm demeanor.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that'll take a bit of pressure off Metcalf. Alex Powell,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Herald Rider. Am I being unfair on Chanelle

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Speaker 3: I think you are. I look at the problem with

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Speaker 3: at everything that went wrong in Vegas and say that's

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Speaker 2: No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying it's all on Chanelle. I'm saying clearly they needed leadership,

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Speaker 2: and you've got two young guys, both extremely talented, and

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Speaker 2: I say, if you just bring in some with a

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Speaker 2: more than Luke almost like I just feel like if

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Speaker 2: you have an older head in there, and you have

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I would actually do what with

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Speaker 3: to beta to seven set back as the game manager,

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Speaker 2: But they've made a big deal about metcalf being the

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Speaker 2: for it was the last time.

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Speaker 3: Remember he was really thrown in the deep end in

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Speaker 3: of don't worry, We're not going to go out and

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Speaker 3: spend money on some half. We've got this KT in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got that.

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Speaker 3: So at that point, the Warriors fandoms going yep, this

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Speaker 2: And your solution is put Chanell in a position he

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Speaker 3: I feel like Shanelle Harrister is a more natural game

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Speaker 3: He's played at hooker in a World Cup final for

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Speaker 3: In transition, we've seen not only Sewan Johnson ATAWH Harris.

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Speaker 2: Well, I said, you know a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 4: It just it just held this.

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Speaker 2: He just was able to hold the space a little

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Speaker 2: And Stacy, actually, Stacy Jones told us on this podcast

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Speaker 3: I like what you say about Tylan Walker. I do disagree.

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Speaker 3: I think fourteen is his best role coming on against

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't really you don't know unless you

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Speaker 2: We've just said, there's nothing he's seen that indicates that

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Speaker 3: Say that is what I worry about. Also what's to come.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back shortly to discuss further what the Warriors

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Speaker 2: need to change and what's making the Seagulls look so

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Speaker 2: bloody good. In twenty twenty five, you caught there win

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Speaker 2: over the Cowboys. But next Dallan what Tennis? Alesniak joins

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Speaker 1: The Big League Podcast podcast.

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Speaker 2: It is my pleasure to welcome to the Big League

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Speaker 2: Podcast Warriors winger Dylan ten It's Alesniak, Dlan joining me

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Speaker 2: in studio for this one. How are you welcome to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's quite cool to be here. Thanks for having me,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, it's yeah, it's cool to be here.

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Speaker 2: I know you've been been doing the rounds with the media,

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Speaker 2: and obviously you're having a bit of time on the

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Speaker 2: to what round seven? Can you talk to me about?

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Speaker 2: I guess how you've dealt with that that kind of blow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happened like the first five minutes, and to

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Speaker 4: what it is. I've had quite a few injuries in

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Speaker 2: So what what can you do for training? Because obviously

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Speaker 4: I can run, so they're just running me, So I'm

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Speaker 2: So no, you're sort of defending with that armage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's through the right hand. I just need that

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Speaker 4: and it is what it is. But yeah, I've learned

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure I'll find out.

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Speaker 2: terms of how your body's feeling and everything like that?

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Speaker 4: I felt, all the coaching has been good that I've

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Speaker 2: And twenty twenty five will be it'll be different. Right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to represent Tonger. I was going to

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Speaker 2: Dylan Watson is a listney. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: Big League Podcast, this is the Big League Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Really good to have Daylan Wattin's a Lisniak in studio

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Speaker 2: He wants to finish strong, signed through until the end

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Speaker 2: and that's a massive bonus for the club, given his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you forget how much of a figure dann

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at Manly. We've got the Warriors

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Speaker 2: I supposely in their big win over the Cowboys. They

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Speaker 2: Manly's going to be top four. Man He's going to

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Speaker 2: be top four after round one. We're calling that apparently.

433
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Speaker 2: But if I look across the games that there were

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Speaker 2: teams that clearly stood out. You look at Brisbane, you

435
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Speaker 2: look at Melbourne, and Manly just looked like the complete package.

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Speaker 2: What did you think?

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Speaker 3: Very similar to you? I think the way Tom Travoievitch

438
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Speaker 3: plays like we've seen him whin a dally Am, you know,

439
00:20:02,013 --> 00:20:03,973
Speaker 3: this is really one of the best players in the game.

440
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Speaker 3: He throws brothers into it, Jake and Ben Traboievitch, and

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Speaker 3: there is such a c feel about that man with him.

442
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Speaker 3: We know that the teams that play for each other

443
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Speaker 3: on the field are the ones who do have that

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Speaker 3: sort of unity. You look at a guy like Luke

445
00:20:17,413 --> 00:20:19,133
Speaker 3: Brooks and what he's been able to do to get

446
00:20:19,133 --> 00:20:21,533
Speaker 3: the best out of Daily Cherr evens full of postcaring

447
00:20:21,573 --> 00:20:23,453
Speaker 3: for him. They had really struggled to find a harvest

448
00:20:23,453 --> 00:20:27,213
Speaker 3: partner for Cherry evens from one to thirteen, from one

449
00:20:27,213 --> 00:20:29,573
Speaker 3: to seventeen. You even look at Jazz Tavanga playing there.

450
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Speaker 3: He looked completely different playing at hooker than what we

451
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Speaker 3: had seen at the Warriors, playing through the middle as

452
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Speaker 3: either a prop or a lock or off the bench.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, yeah, they are well coached. You look

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Speaker 3: at what Anthony Sebold did or is doing his coach.

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Speaker 3: He's a guy who I mean, it felt like a

456
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Speaker 3: couple of years ago he was really one of the

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Speaker 3: hottest young coaches around him what he did at South Sydney,

458
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Speaker 3: and then he went up to Brisbane and it all

459
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Speaker 3: went wrong and everyone sort of question said is he

460
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Speaker 3: really the guy? And then he went away and worked

461
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Speaker 3: with England and Rugby Union and got to cut his

462
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Speaker 3: teeth a bit there, and now it looks like he's

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Speaker 3: really able to build with Manly And like I if

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Speaker 3: the shout is that they're going to be a top

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Speaker 3: four team this year going off Round one, I would

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Speaker 3: not be surprised if they were.

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Speaker 2: Where are the weaknesses. It's hard to talk about weaknesses

468
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Speaker 2: after just one game of seeing them and I suppose

469
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Speaker 2: the kind of performance that they did put on. But

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Speaker 2: in terms of the worries we've talked about the haves.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how Webster plays that, how

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Speaker 2: he names his team. I do expect what you said

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Speaker 2: before about Dylan Walking being off the interchange Aaron Clarke

474
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Speaker 2: probably to start at Lockford.

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Speaker 3: But well, do any to talk about that from round

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Speaker 3: or from Vegas because Aaron Clarke was named to start

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Speaker 3: at thirteen, and then there was sort of a late

478
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Speaker 3: switcheroo with Mitch Barnett playing at lock.

479
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Speaker 2: Nick and Berge who sort of covered it off last week.

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Speaker 2: But it was bizarre and it might have been to

481
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Speaker 2: do with I think Josh Papallee was brought in late

482
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Speaker 2: to start it at Locke, and that might have been

483
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Speaker 2: a response to that in terms of moving the big

484
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Speaker 2: body of Mitch Barnett back there, I mean, are the

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Speaker 2: areas the defense just wasn't up to stand it in

486
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Speaker 2: that Las Vegas game. But that is something I feel like,

487
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Speaker 2: it's a mindset thing.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what it was for me. So I

489
00:22:07,253 --> 00:22:09,013
Speaker 3: think it was from a minute to twenty four to

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Speaker 3: minute fifty one. Neither James Fisher Harris, Normich Barnett were

491
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Speaker 3: on the field as co captains and as the big

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Speaker 3: leaders on that side. In that time they conceded three tries.

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Speaker 3: That for me is how do they mitigate the loss

494
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Speaker 3: of leadership when one or both of the Warriors co

495
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Speaker 3: captains aren't on the field.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got other leaders they do.

497
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Speaker 3: However, you look at what Barnett and Fisher Harris bring

498
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Speaker 3: and that's having They've also lost Sean Johnson, and they've

499
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Speaker 3: also lost to Harris, and they've also lost Marcella Montoya

500
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Speaker 3: and they've lost Adam fanil Blake. So you think of

501
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Speaker 3: the leadership group that they had last year, I mean

502
00:22:40,853 --> 00:22:43,933
Speaker 3: you're really looking at Dylan Walker, Wade Egan, who else

503
00:22:44,053 --> 00:22:48,413
Speaker 3: that are actually Roger to Varsa Schek. So the leadership

504
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,493
Speaker 3: issues are just so hard to quantify because we know

505
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Speaker 3: there are a lot of good players at the Warriors,

506
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Speaker 3: but good leaders are so much harder to find. And

507
00:22:55,053 --> 00:22:58,013
Speaker 3: it's never who you think it's going to be. You know,

508
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Speaker 3: if you just said to James Fisher's been turner butt

509
00:23:01,013 --> 00:23:03,013
Speaker 3: the Panthers and didn't say a word for four years,

510
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Speaker 3: that that guy was the one setting all the standards

511
00:23:05,173 --> 00:23:06,853
Speaker 3: I think they have all been so surprised, but then

512
00:23:06,893 --> 00:23:08,253
Speaker 3: you hear about everything he's done when he's come to

513
00:23:08,253 --> 00:23:10,573
Speaker 3: the Warriors, and obviously it's going to take time, but

514
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Speaker 3: they have actually got really good leadership there. It's just

515
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Speaker 3: about making sure that is represented on the field at

516
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Speaker 3: all times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how we we've still

518
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Speaker 2: uses the interchange differently because you just pointed out both

519
00:23:22,853 --> 00:23:25,373
Speaker 2: captains were off the field for a sizable amount of

520
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Speaker 2: time there, and obviously there was that like reshuffle with

521
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Speaker 2: Clark Barnett Walker. So does the strategy change and where

522
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Speaker 2: I suppose are the biggest improvements going to lie what

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Speaker 2: if they looked at in the last couple of weeks

524
00:23:40,093 --> 00:23:42,253
Speaker 2: in terms of that attack, Because the big thing for

525
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Speaker 2: me is I want to see us kicking. I want

526
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Speaker 2: to see the Warriors kicking in the twenty. I want

527
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Speaker 2: to see Metcalf doing it, and I want to see

528
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Speaker 2: his halves partner, be that to Mighty or Chanelle or

529
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Speaker 2: you know, wherever they go with that. I want to

530
00:23:53,973 --> 00:23:56,173
Speaker 2: see a bit more fluidity and direction. And I'm sure

531
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Speaker 2: that's something that they would have talked about because anyone

532
00:23:58,173 --> 00:24:00,773
Speaker 2: watching could see that that was an issue.

533
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Speaker 3: I think you do actually have to give credits to

534
00:24:02,373 --> 00:24:04,013
Speaker 3: the Raiders as well. I remember the Warriors would have

535
00:24:04,013 --> 00:24:05,813
Speaker 3: gone there with a plan that they weren't allowed to

536
00:24:05,853 --> 00:24:08,213
Speaker 3: actually do because the Raiders are such a good defensive team.

537
00:24:08,333 --> 00:24:10,613
Speaker 3: Think any Ricky Stewart coach team, they're going to be

538
00:24:10,613 --> 00:24:13,653
Speaker 3: pretty uncompromising on defense, and I guess the Warriors were

539
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Speaker 3: the first victims of that in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Good b lvy, this is going the Big League podcast

541
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Speaker 1: on the Warriors Bad Wagons since day one.

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Speaker 2: Right to finish off, Alex Powell whip through some predictions

543
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Speaker 2: for Round two, Weekend three of NRL Action, and we're

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Speaker 2: starting off with the Knights and the Dolphins. Knights having

545
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Speaker 2: a two point win over the Tigers coming from behind,

546
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Speaker 2: and the Dolphins are two point loss to the Bunnies

547
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Speaker 2: on the same night. How are you feeling in a Newcastle?

548
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Speaker 3: I would like to think the Dolphins, he saw them

549
00:24:52,093 --> 00:24:54,173
Speaker 3: nearly go and tip up the Bunnies missing a couple

550
00:24:54,213 --> 00:24:56,653
Speaker 3: of key players. Obviously they're playing for their homes now

551
00:24:57,333 --> 00:25:00,493
Speaker 3: post cyclone, so maybe that will inspire them to get

552
00:25:00,573 --> 00:25:03,893
Speaker 3: up and give a bit of relief to a Redcliff community.

553
00:25:03,933 --> 00:25:04,773
Speaker 3: That's hurting right now.

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00:25:05,293 --> 00:25:07,173
Speaker 2: I'm going to agree with you on that one. The

555
00:25:07,293 --> 00:25:09,613
Speaker 2: Dolphins to beat the Knights in Newcastle, even though it

556
00:25:09,693 --> 00:25:13,333
Speaker 2: is it's a tough place to play Warriors see Eagles.

557
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Speaker 3: I'm not on this podcast often and I think the

558
00:25:17,573 --> 00:25:20,733
Speaker 3: last thing I should do is say Warriors lose and

559
00:25:20,773 --> 00:25:22,573
Speaker 3: then walk out. So I'm going to say the Warriors

560
00:25:22,613 --> 00:25:26,933
Speaker 3: when just the Warriors win, just based on just blind hope.

561
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Speaker 2: I'm a realist and I've got to shoot straight, and

562
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Speaker 2: I think Mainly are going to be too good. If

563
00:25:33,293 --> 00:25:37,093
Speaker 2: you look at the I guess the massive difference in

564
00:25:37,173 --> 00:25:40,053
Speaker 2: terms of the Seagulls attack versus the Warriors attack. I

565
00:25:40,093 --> 00:25:42,133
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to turn it around in two weeks.

566
00:25:42,173 --> 00:25:44,213
Speaker 2: I think this is going to take time. And the

567
00:25:44,213 --> 00:25:46,533
Speaker 2: big dogs, like Mainly look to be this year, I

568
00:25:46,533 --> 00:25:51,933
Speaker 2: think will be too strong. Panthers versus the Roosters Panthers easy. Yeah,

569
00:25:51,933 --> 00:25:54,813
Speaker 2: the Roosters looked they looked pretty helpless.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the Panthers looked amazing against the Sharks, Like

571
00:25:56,813 --> 00:25:59,213
Speaker 3: the Sharks are not a bad team. And the way

572
00:25:59,213 --> 00:26:01,373
Speaker 3: the Panthers just not only held on but then really

573
00:26:01,413 --> 00:26:04,133
Speaker 3: struck back at the end. You know in that second

574
00:26:04,213 --> 00:26:06,453
Speaker 3: match in Vegas to kick off a couple of weeks ago,

575
00:26:07,013 --> 00:26:08,733
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the Man Come

576
00:26:08,773 --> 00:26:09,653
Speaker 3: finals again.

577
00:26:10,413 --> 00:26:14,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Roosters just were not on the Broncos level

578
00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:17,053
Speaker 2: at all. So I am going to go with the

579
00:26:17,093 --> 00:26:21,093
Speaker 2: Panthers as well. Dragons versus the rabbit O's rabbit O's

580
00:26:21,653 --> 00:26:25,813
Speaker 2: Rabbitos to win that one. Cowboys Sharks Sharks Shacks, Yeah

581
00:26:26,053 --> 00:26:28,573
Speaker 2: all right. I mean the Cowboys just they were losing

582
00:26:28,613 --> 00:26:31,493
Speaker 2: forty two nil, Yeah, forty two nil and cut through

583
00:26:31,493 --> 00:26:34,013
Speaker 2: a couple of times in the final few minutes. I

584
00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,693
Speaker 2: don't like the look of them. I still thought the

585
00:26:35,693 --> 00:26:37,893
Speaker 2: Sharks looked pretty good against the Panthers. So I'm going

586
00:26:37,893 --> 00:26:43,013
Speaker 2: to agree with you there. Raiders versus the Broncos. Oh, Broncos,

587
00:26:43,893 --> 00:26:49,333
Speaker 2: you can't go against a fifty point effort. Eels Tigers, Eels. See,

588
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:52,253
Speaker 2: I actually picked the Tigers okay to beat the Knights,

589
00:26:52,293 --> 00:26:55,293
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go with them again. So I'll pick

590
00:26:55,333 --> 00:26:58,453
Speaker 2: the Tigers there. Eels looked terrible.

591
00:26:58,973 --> 00:27:02,853
Speaker 3: Bulldogs Titans, Oh, Titans haven't played to Bulldogs.

592
00:27:03,813 --> 00:27:05,693
Speaker 2: That'll Lewis for this week. Thank you so much, Alex

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00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:07,453
Speaker 2: Power for your time, your wisdom. Yeah, insight on the

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Speaker 2: Big League podcast is a big question mark week. Can

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00:27:10,613 --> 00:27:14,013
Speaker 2: the Warriors turn it around? Can they get anything done

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00:27:14,093 --> 00:27:17,013
Speaker 2: against the Seagulls. We will cross our fingers and watch

597
00:27:17,373 --> 00:27:20,013
Speaker 2: with interest. Please follow and rate the podcast. My name

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Speaker 2: is Nathan Limb. Have a great week.

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