1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: News Talk set B. It is twenty six minutes after five. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: No doubt Donald Trump's brand is dicey at best at home, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: but globally. In term one of Donald Trump, the world 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: watched on with a mix of kind of amusement and 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: feigned concern. Term two is very different. These results out 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: of Canada and Australia at the weekend show. The brand 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: is turned toxic, like a beef Wellington at a family 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: dinner party. We've all seen the host, the chef tucking in, 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: but we're thinking, hmm, do we want to do the same. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: We can't get much closer in Stalin substance to Canada 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and Australia when it comes to democracy. Both chained to 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: the Westminster system we inherited from Mother England, and both 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: of our cousins have turned on their political oppositions as 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Trump up ends the global order to rub salt in 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: the wound. For both Polyev and Dutton, they lost their 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: seats as well as their elections. We spoke about this 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: on Friday, but what is the message here? Trump is toxic. 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Pollier's problem was one of style. He sounded in campaigned 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: too much like Trump. The airport hangar with the branded 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: plane behind him the shots on the nightly news. People 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: didn't like that. Dutton's problem was more complicated. First, he 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: ran a crap campaign, realizing a defense force plan so 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: expensive it gets funding to three percent of GDP. I mean, 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: we can't take on Elbow's tax cuts and a cost 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: of living crisis, and then only releasing that plan two 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: weeks out from a campaign was done, But it was 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: also about the word economists are spitting out like a 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: bad stake at the moment, uncertainty. Don't ask Luxon, though 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: he gave a bizarre response when asked about this yesterday. 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Have a listen. 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: What you're seeing is in Singapore, Canada, Australia, the public 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: voting for governments that have their eyes on the right 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: things and the right things. For us is to make 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: sure we don't take our eyes off economic growth. That's 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: why if we say growth, growth, growth, we keep talking 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: economics and rebuilding the economy from day one. 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: That's important. A weird thing to say. Basically, the Aussies 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: and the Canadian and simply picked the most economically credible 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: parties in the face of uncertain times. What those parties 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: he's endorsing are both from the left. That's the equivalent 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: of kicking his sister parties the Aussie lives in the 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Canadian Conservatives right in the shins when they're down. It 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: made no sense. I think you wanted to avoid mentioning 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: the Trump bump. Maybe what's actually happening here is not 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: really about parties. In terms of uncertainty, you don't change 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: your horse. Mid Stream voters stick with what they know. 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: When the world is in a spin, you don't know 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: up from down. Human nature, for the most part is 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: to do nothing and hope it goes away. Why risk 50 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: a new government of unknown quantity. Singapore arguably just done 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: the same. The counterfactional, of course, is obviously America. But 52 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: remember the American economy was actually growing for the past 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: few years, consumer spending was strong, inflation had come down 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: earlier than ours. So that's a different set of circumstances 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: as to why they went for Trump. The best comparison 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: for what's happened in Australia and Canada in the past 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: week is twenty twenty New Zealand. A bunch of people 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: really worried about a perceived global threat, rallying around the 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: flagpole and rejecting a campaign that was neither well run 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: nor nailing the public mood, which Judith Collin's disastrous twenty 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: twenty attempt didn't whether it was Trump worry reaction to him. 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: For Luxeon to attribute the fiscal credentials of left wing 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: parties abroad with their success was an unnecessary own goal. 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio