1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Ten after four no roadside drug testing it is coming. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: The law has passed, but could it inadvertently catch innocent 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: people who are using the likes of ADHD medication or 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: using medicinal cannabis. The Transport Minister Chris Bishop says the 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: government's looking at a test that will only pick up 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: on the relevant illegal drugs, the prescription drug aspect of it. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: People on ADHD or that do you wait that, do 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: you give that some credence. 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Or not that the tests won't pick up for that stuff. 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: So it's testing for things like cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana. And 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: they've got some pretty sophisticated tests out there that other 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: jurisdictions use that we're hoping to use here where you 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: pick that stuff up and you know it would have 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: two tests at the roadside, and you know then if 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: there's two tests that you fail, then you will be 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: banned from driving for twelve hours. 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of hope there. Dylan Thompson is 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the AA's Road Safety spokespersonal WITHVENT this afternoon, High Dyllan. 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 3: Cure A good afternoon. 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: Is this. 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Do these tests exist, like really good ones that differentiate 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: the legal from the illegal? 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: Yes, they do, so The first thing I'll say is 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: it's really hard to give definitive, absolute yes or no 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: to everything answers on this because there's so many different substances, medications, drugs. 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: But if we look at Australia, for example, the testing 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: devices that they use, they say in their official guidance 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: information that ADHD medication should not return a positive result. 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: And also the testing devices generally test for THHC and 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: a lot of the medicinal cannabis does not have THHC 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: in it. I mean, you have to forgive me a 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: little bit. I'm not a pharmacist, but so there are 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: testing devices that should not be returning positive results for 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: people on ADHD medication or medicinal cannabis. And the law 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: is also going to have a medical defense, so you 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: shouldn't if you have a prescription and are using it 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: as prescribed, you should not be looking at any fines 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: or demerit points even if you did return a positive test. 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Okay, how quickly could all this happen? Do you think? 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: How quickly do you think they're be able to get 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: these tests up and running. 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Well, we're hoping from the AA's perspective that by the 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: end of the year, we might actually see police using this. 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: It'll depend a little bit on how quickly police because 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: police are only now beginning the process of looking at devices, 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: testing them and trialing them, and there's a lot of 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 3: different devices out there on the market to choose from. 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: But we're hoping by the end of the year we 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: might actually see this finally happening in New Zealand, because 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: you know, it's really important to remember we are averaging 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: currently about one hundred road deaths a year. We're testing 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: after the fact shows drugs in a driver's system that 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: police I think may have contributed to that crash. 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Got to be done then, Dylan, thank you for that. 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: Dylan Thompson, a road safety spokesperson. For more from Heather 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News Talks a B 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.