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Speaker 1: Barry Sober, Senior political correspondence with US High Barring.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Watch the Tarkouter Ferris midnight eight minute video.

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Speaker 2: Oh I did watch it. It was rather painful and

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Speaker 2: rather infuriating, I might say, Heather, but you've got to

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Speaker 2: remember that during his maiden speech this guy after the

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Speaker 2: last election, he said that there was he wasn't there

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Speaker 2: to service the needs of the New Zealand House of Representatives.

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Speaker 2: He was there to contest the needs. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's always been radical, was no doubt

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Speaker 2: about that. And you remember he was accused of lying

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Speaker 2: in the house, and indeed he did lie in the

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Speaker 2: house and he was asked to formally apologize for that.

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Speaker 2: So Ferret Ferris in his sorry that was a fraudient slip.

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Speaker 2: Ferris in his late night ran on Instagram from as

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Speaker 2: you said, Heather, a darkened room wearing a hoodie, had

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Speaker 2: to go at Willie Jackson for taking issue with him

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Speaker 2: over his horror different ethnicities painting for labor in a

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Speaker 2: mild seat. Here he is.

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Speaker 3: I heard Willie Jackson in the news talking about how

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Speaker 3: just unacceptable that was from Targey. Turn should know better,

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Speaker 3: you know, we care about everyone in the Labor Party. Well,

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Speaker 3: guess what, Willy, I don't give a crap who you

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Speaker 3: care about or what you care about in the Malory seats.

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Speaker 3: It's about the Milori people, Malory only. And here's what

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Speaker 3: that post is doing. It's homogenizing Maori as a minority,

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Speaker 3: all right. So they're trying to make us vanish. They're

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Speaker 3: trying to make us disappear into just a small minority

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Speaker 3: in our own country, whilst we fight for the damn

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Speaker 3: seats that are there for us, expressly for us, and

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Speaker 3: they're there for us because the Parker House at the

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Speaker 3: time and currently know that Mary's have unique rights as

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Speaker 3: opposed to everyone else. Make them uncomfortable, Funny, it's not

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Speaker 3: our problem to fix. It's this.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's sounded rather comfortable. I'll say that he sounded

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Speaker 2: very laid back and it August really well, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: For a coalition between Labor and the Moldy Party. I

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Speaker 2: mean that, as I've often said, this Mildy Party very

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Speaker 2: unlike the one that was originally formed, very unlike it.

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Speaker 2: There are a bunch of protesters, and that Instagram rent there,

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Speaker 2: I think underscores that.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, Now, what did you make of the police

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Speaker 1: press conference about the second camp?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know the second camp. It's that's where the

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Speaker 2: other children were found. Of course, there's about two kilometers

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Speaker 2: away from where the shooting occurred. And you'll be weird

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Speaker 2: because you've listened to it all. The police Minister and

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Speaker 2: the Police Commissioner have always said how delicate the situation was,

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Speaker 2: and certainly that was the case that was born out

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Speaker 2: by what Detective Senior Sergeant Andrew Saunders, he is the

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Speaker 2: head of the operation who released the campsite pecks today.

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Speaker 2: What he said, in my mind, tells us a lot.

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Speaker 2: They didn't walk straight into the camp where the children were.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there was there was a negotiation that connects

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Speaker 4: with children, and that proceeded and they came out. We

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Speaker 4: believe they've moved here a number of months ago. I

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Speaker 4: can't be specific around time.

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Speaker 2: See, it just makes you wonder, doesn't it how those

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Speaker 2: kids were conditioned by Tom Phillips that if the police

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Speaker 2: were clearly worried about walking into that campsite knowing there

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Speaker 2: are only children there, but knowing that there were firearms there,

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Speaker 2: just makes you wonder.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, I think it was pretty clear that.

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Speaker 2: How they were conditioned by their.

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Speaker 1: Pretty clear that they would have been taught how to

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Speaker 1: use guns and sold to What happened in Parliament today.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, it was a bit of a laugh because

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Speaker 2: old our old mate Shane Jones was raving about the

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Speaker 2: new geothermal area that they've set aside in the Rota

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Speaker 2: Kawa Geothermal Reserve near Talpo. That would have to be

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Speaker 2: good news, but it seemed to be lost on Labour's

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Speaker 2: Energy spokeswoman Megan Woods. He didn't like the way Shane

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Speaker 2: Jones referred to it. The minister referred to us the

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Speaker 2: opposition spokesman, and I know definitions like this are important

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Speaker 2: to that party.

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Speaker 1: He just like to point out on a spokesperson or

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Speaker 1: a spokeswoman.

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Speaker 3: I'm almost almost tempted to require everyone of the House

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Speaker 3: to post their pronouns so everyone gets it right. Pronouns

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Speaker 3: I like them, But I'm not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that because common sense should prevail.

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Speaker 5: New Zealand in some cases will never ever recover from

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Speaker 5: the most destructive energy decision made since the Treaty of

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Speaker 5: White Tongy, otherwise known as the Oil and Gaspan that's

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Speaker 5: you signaling juvenile attempt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and just for your information, and you will remember

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Speaker 2: that Benjamin Doyle he gives his valedictory on September the eighteenth.

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Speaker 2: So what has that got to do with it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: pronouns all right, say them and.

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Speaker 1: You'll grasp on them as well. Barry, Thanks very much,

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Speaker 1: Barry Sober, Senior political correspondent.

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