1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Right, Barry Soper, Senior Political Correspondence with that's hallo, Barry. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: Good afternoon. Who the wires are so much cake in 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: the office today? 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Go on, then, go on, just get it out of 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: your system. 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Dear, I go on, Happy birthday, Thank you. 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Very much, Barry. Jeez, how long did you think about? 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: How am I going to get that out there? 9 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: No? No, I didn't mind when I looked away. 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Look, you've absolutely excelled, right the GDP, This this was alarming, 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: this number, wasn't it. 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Well, yes, it was alarming, was much more than anybody 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: had protected. But look, Adrian Or you'd have to say, 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: did a great job engineering a recession. Like the government 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: he was working for at the time, he clearly didn't 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: know how to get out of it. So they're still 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: in the maya. But I think I think we've turned 18 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: the corner, and I think the third court will be 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: better than one we're in at the moment, and it'll 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: be even better than the last quarter. 21 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Well, it has to be better than because geez, there's 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: no way it could get worse exactly. Okay, So the 23 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: spat between David Seymour and Winston Peters about Gaza, Yeah, 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: how big a deal. 25 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: Is this, Well, it's not such a big deal, I 26 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: must say, it's been made a big deal by some 27 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: sections of the media. But the interesting thing is that 28 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: even though Seymour has been sniping away at Palestine and 29 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 2: what New Zealand should be doing, it's really the Foreign 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: Affairs Minister's job and act hasn't opted out of any 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: formal agree to disagree position, which is what you meant 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: to do in a coalition. Nevertheless, standing in for the 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: Prime Minister today during question time, David Seymour was quizzed 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: by Labour's carmel Sepaloni over the bickering between him and 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: Winston Peters. Interestingly, Seymour not once referred to Winston by 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: a name. 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: Here they are our position will be made clear by 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: the right minister at the right place, at the right time, 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: which is coming up very soon. 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: Was the Minister of Foreign Affairs correct when he said 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 4: that the Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour was quite so, 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: it's talking out of his field end quote regarding the 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: government's position on Palestinian statehood. 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Actually he was speaking as the leader of his party 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: and that's a matter for him which I don't have 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: a responsibility for. 47 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: When will he instruct his Deputy Prime Minister and his 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: Minister for Foreign Affairs to stop bickering. 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: We have a team that works together very effectively, dangerously effective, 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: in such a way that it's going to keep the 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: opposition right where they are for a very long time. 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: Wishful thinking, that's probably true though. 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: All right, what's Jane Jones banging on about the dolphins? 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Oh? I love this because apparently there was a twenty 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: twenty one report issued by the government suggesting that the 56 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: population of hectors and Marui dolphins it's about fifty four 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: or even as few as forty. A question from the 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: Greens had the Minister of Oceans and Fishery Shane Jones, 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: are casting doubt on the very existence of the dolphin species. 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 5: Over the years, a host of restrictive measures have been 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 5: put in place for this mythological creature, sadly known as 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 5: Maui's dolphins. This has had a significant impact on the 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 5: ability and the viability of the fishery sector. But we 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: should not devalue the work that has already taken place 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 5: on the west coast of Deco or Mahwi to provide 66 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: remedial measures for this declining population of mythical Hector's dolphins. 67 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: But I will not be guilt tripped about mythical creatures 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 5: living off the west coast of Taranaki. 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: He just thinks they're the same dolphin based he says 70 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: they are the same dolphins. 71 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: I'll talk to him after that. He said they are 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: They've never been different dolphins. That's his view. I kem 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: all right, not the Greens view that much. 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: So are you going to You're going to be tuning 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: in for Bossy's valedictory. 76 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Well, one of the few contributions that made to politics 77 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: came today and one of Benjamin Doyle's rare questions. Essentially, 78 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: what they did was hold up the proceedings as they 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: asked questions in maldi, which of course they're entitled to do, 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: but it was something of a struggle to get an answer. 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: Here they are kate I Feifer, card or Ia ke. 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: Ucker, manna E t t or way tongy mean hutunga 83 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: a ma to dunga manga a kunam maudis to speak. 84 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: I'm not getting any translation through this air piece. 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: That's been a problem all week, and I've got this. 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't know whether there was a problem for the 87 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: bewildered translator, or whether it was indeed a technical problem, 88 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: but anyway we can hear more from them. That's Doyle 89 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: when they delivered their valedictory in about an hour's time. 90 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: See how correct I was hither in the pronouns which 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: from here on and won't be such a problem with 92 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: him gone. 93 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: Up to that point. Just what Thanks for Barry Soper, 94 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Senior political correspondent. 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 96 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 97 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio.