1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Jason Wooll's political editors with us right now. Hey Jason, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: good afternoon. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: Man. 4 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: A live Tory doesn't learn, does she. 5 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there was a Tory versus Tory today. Of 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: course that's Torri Fino, Wellington's mayor. And the other Tory 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 3: I'm talking about is Christopher Luxen, the NAT And obviously 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: you know in the UK they call them the Tories. 9 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: It all started earlier this morning when the PM was 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 3: an ian Z post budget breakfast and he was asked 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: about what he, as Prime Minister could do to keep 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: political parties out of local councils. 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 4: And here's what he said, But, man, I think you 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 4: need a little bit less political party and a little 15 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: less ideology and a little bit more common sense actually 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 4: in solving some problems and getting the show on the road. 17 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 4: And so but ultimately, also good people of Wellington have 18 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: to vote, and when you look at voter turnout and 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: local body elections running at thirty five percent, sometimes you 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: get what you deserve just putting it to because I 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: can't solve all your problems, you know, so you can 22 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: solve some of your own problems. 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: And I was there and the first thing that I 24 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: thought between my bikes have been bacon and eggs. Was 25 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: is he wrong? I don't think he is. I think 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: he makes some kind of fair points. But that wasn't 27 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: the end of it. He went on all mate Nick 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Mills's show on z B Wellington Mornings down here in 29 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: the Capitol and kind of continued to put the boot in. 30 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 4: You know, you've got way too much ideology and party 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: politics in your local government. I think you need to 32 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: focus on actually common sense solutions to problems that people 33 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: are experiencing in the region, take responsibility for it and 34 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: sort it out for people. 35 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: So Torri was not happy with either of these comments, 36 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: and she wrote into our newsroom down here in said, 37 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: these comments by the Prime Minister are once again a 38 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: blatant punching down on Wellington where groundbreaking transformational projects are 39 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: trying to get through it without giggling, where transformational projects 40 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: are underway. Just last week we successfully passed our long 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: term plan for twenty two or twenty four to twenty 42 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: and thirty four and progressed our water reforms. Here's where 43 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: it gets spicy. Perhaps he should look at his own 44 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: policy choices, like the recent decision to slash pay for 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: women on low incomes and the disastrous school lunch program. 46 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: We need solutions and collaborations from the Prime Minister, not 47 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: rhetoric designed to distract from his own failings. We're doing 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: just fine in Wellington and the Prime Minister should focus 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: on his chaotic coalition instead. 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Okay, now are you telling me that Tory unprompted contacted 51 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: the newsroom to say this? 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: That's what That's the story that was went up on 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: the Herald. 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: Seriously she wrote into that. She was like, I know, 55 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: I've got to have a say on this. Let me 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: have it, let me sledge the Prime Minister by writing 57 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: an email to the Herald. Does that what happened? 58 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: And obviously she sent it to other people as well, 59 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: because yeah, one news is reporting the same comments. So 60 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: she's not pleased. 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: Not please jeez, she does not help yourself. Hey, so 62 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: did the Prime Minister and the Finance Minister take credit 63 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: for the ocr cut? Did they? 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: Yes? To the surprise of no one, they were pretty 65 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: keen to put a kind of put their stamp all 66 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: over it. Have a listen to what Christopher Luxan told 67 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: us about an hour and a half ago. 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: Our work on spending as directly contributing to lowering inflation, 69 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 4: which then is obviously the prechursor to lowering interest rates. 70 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 4: And given the economy growing and moving. 71 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: Again, so he's not exactly being subtle about but you 72 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: know it's not all the government. I mean, you do 73 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: have to give them props. They have brought down spending 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: and of course that has had an impact on inflation. 75 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: But the fact that oil prices have fallen as well 76 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: is also a contributing factor behind the fact that we've 77 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: seen lower inflation, which has led to a lower ocr 78 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: The Finance minister. This Nikola Willis did in part acknowledge that. 79 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: There's always a range of factors, but the reverse is 80 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: also true. We'd got the money Berzuoka out and sprayed 81 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: it all around, you can beat inflation would have been high. 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so in a parallel world, it would have 83 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: been interesting to see what it would have been like 84 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: if Leber had kept going in terms of what the 85 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: inflation rates would have been. But there is always an 86 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: elephant in the room when it comes to inflation. And 87 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: this was Nikola Willis's message to some of the councils 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: across the country which are putting up rates to double digits. 89 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: But look, my message to councils always the same as 90 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: the prime ministers, which is rate payers can't handle massive 91 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: rate increases, so cut your cloth, manage your expenses. 92 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: Keif Lee and I wonder who she's referring to there. 93 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Hey, very quickly, have you got that Tory email in 94 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: front of you again? 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: Ah? 96 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: Yes, just have a look. 97 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Did she say that women's wages have been slashed? 98 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: She said, perhaps he should look at his own policy choices, 99 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: like the recent decision to slash pay for women on 100 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: low incomes. 101 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, actually in correct though, way well listen, just 102 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: getting some tests along those lines. It's just worth pointing 103 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: out Tory doesn't have a grasp on the facts. All right, 104 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Jason, appreciate it, Jason Wooll's political editor. 105 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 106 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 107 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.