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Speaker 3: Good afternoon seven after four, great to have your company

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Speaker 3: this Monday afternoon. India. The FDA is a deal worth

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Speaker 3: it without dairy, No dairy. We'll ask that question after five.

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Speaker 3: to Australia. The unions are getting particularly fair all over there.

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Speaker 3: Students are partying in Dunedin. Is that news? And Nikola

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Speaker 3: willis after six Bridge for the first time at the weekend,

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Speaker 3: I wandered on down to the viaduct here in Auckland

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Speaker 3: down there. Absolutely brilliant idea. I mean, it's not rocket sciences.

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Speaker 3: Everybody having a great time. Everybody having a fantastic time.

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Speaker 3: And I thought, well, you don't need a big, fancy,

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Speaker 3: So one in four school principles claim to see harmful

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Speaker 4: Well, the good part of it is nobody wants to

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Speaker 3: Welcome to your Monday afternoon, twenty four minutes after four.

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Speaker 3: Now do you think if you run an Airbnb out

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Speaker 1: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

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Speaker 1: drive home it's Ryan Bridge on Hither duplessy Alan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Nice good after that twenty five away from five news tools.

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Speaker 3: It'd be great to have your company, Ryan. We're old pensioners.

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Speaker 3: Fifty Nine people a club goers have died in a

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Speaker 9: Thank you for tuning in this early morning. It was

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Speaker 9: a wonderful day. Great to see our friends arrived.

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Speaker 3: A SpaceX crew cap sut safely docking with the station.

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Speaker 3: and finally this afternoon. You might remember a couple of

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of mind

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Speaker 3: Olli Peters was with US six PR per Live presenter Oli.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Good evening, Good afternoon, Ryan. Hey, this cyclone

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Speaker 3: Alfred has blown a pretty big hole in the federal budget.

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Speaker 9: What do you know, Yeah, one point two billion dollars.

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Speaker 10: The Treasurer Jim Chalmers is forecasting is he has to

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Speaker 3: Now, good luck to you if this happens. But the Greens,

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Speaker 9: Set jam exactly.

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Speaker 10: And they think that this, I mean some trials done

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Speaker 9: According to the Greens. And how's this they want to establish.

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Speaker 3: Goodness me, do you have a date yet still, Mark.

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Speaker 9: No, we don't. It has to be before May seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Right, we'll put it in a pencil in the calendar. Ollie, Hey,

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Speaker 11: What I did was an incredible mistake and there hasn't

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Speaker 11: proven that Australians care deeply about their wildlife, and that

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Speaker 11: is something I intensely admire.

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Speaker 12: Every year.

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Speaker 3: However, the Australian government issues.

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Speaker 11: Permits for the killing of thousands and thousands of wombats

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Speaker 11: across Australia, along with millions of kangaroos.

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Speaker 2: She's on team one bat.

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Speaker 3: Now come off, God, oh dear, do they presumably that's

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Speaker 3: that's peace control? Almost as the forty.

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Speaker 9: Much exactly right.

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Speaker 10: Look, you know what, though, I will say to her defense,

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Speaker 10: like to carry on in this country over the last

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Speaker 10: couple of weeks actually should have been reported.

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Speaker 9: We shouldn't have a here like you know, if we

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Speaker 9: turn the you know, not turn a blind eye.

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Speaker 10: But you know the other instances in this country of

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Speaker 10: things that are happening right in terms of rapes and

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Speaker 10: murders and criminals, and this is obviously the issue which

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Speaker 10: is really raised the eye of about politicians like come on.

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Speaker 3: Only you've been too serious. Honestly, it's a crazy woman

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Speaker 3: with a wam with a wombat that's far more interesting

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Speaker 3: to talk about.

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Speaker 10: Well, and she's got a fifteen minutes of fame plus

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Speaker 10: plus right, Imagine all the DM she's getting from all

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Speaker 10: the product endorsements as an influencer.

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Speaker 3: That's what we got to do. Ryan should be selling

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Speaker 3: fur coats soon. Hey oly thank Olli Peterston six PR

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Speaker 3: PERS Life presenter out of Australia. It's eighteen minutes away

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Speaker 3: from five o'clock. David Seymour was on the show after

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Speaker 3: five point thirty. This whole thing about honestly, so David Seymour.

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Speaker 3: There's a post by at rbity YTT where he implies

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Speaker 3: I don't know that David Seymour is the grass and

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Speaker 3: he's going to get be weed whacked. Clearly it was

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Speaker 3: a joke, wasn't it. I mean clearly it was a joke.

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Speaker 3: Same when David Seymour joked about, you know, using five

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Speaker 3: works on the Ministry of Pacific. People's it's a joke.

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Speaker 3: Don't people know everything's a joke. Can't we all just

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Speaker 3: calm down? Even David Seymour has got his knickers in

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Speaker 3: a twist, so he's on the show after five thirty two,

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Speaker 3: try and untangle them.

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Speaker 1: I suppose politics with Centric Crey to check your customers

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Speaker 1: and get payment certainty, accord it to.

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Speaker 3: Five years talks. There'd be lots of texts coming in

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Speaker 3: about the David sea mourrissue. We will deal with that

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Speaker 3: after five thirty. Right now, Barry's here, Hey, Barry, get

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Speaker 3: right now. This free trade deal with India, it's not

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Speaker 3: a deal yet, it's a discussion and the discussion hasn't

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Speaker 3: started yet. But we've announced discussions will start.

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Speaker 13: Yes, And.

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Speaker 7: It was obviously pre rehearsed totally right down to the

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Speaker 7: Indians within an hour of Chris Lucksen's plane landing in

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Speaker 7: India announcing that negotiations will begin on a comprehensive free

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Speaker 7: trade agreement and that'll never come to be. I can

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Speaker 7: tell you that now. I mean, I've been to India

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Speaker 7: with so many Prime minists I've been with David Longie,

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Speaker 7: I've been with Helen Clark, I've been with John Key.

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Speaker 7: They all talked about trade agreements, but nothing came of them.

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Speaker 7: And I was going back to have a look at

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Speaker 7: what John Key was saying at the end of the

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Speaker 7: trip that he did there in two thousand and eleven,

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Speaker 7: and it was a statement that made at the end

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Speaker 7: they said the two prime ministers that's of New Zealand

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Speaker 7: and India reiterated the commitment to an early conclusion of

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Speaker 7: the three trade agreement negotiations, noting that the ongoing negotiations

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Speaker 7: were proceeding well. So they talked then about you know,

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Speaker 7: it was imminent, the ink was about to dry on

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Speaker 7: the paper and we would have been away laughing. Well,

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Speaker 7: the only one's laughing, of course, of the Indians, because

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Speaker 7: they won't do any trade agreement that involves certainly red

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Speaker 7: meat when it comes to cattle, because they respect their

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Speaker 7: cows in India to the extent that they are wandering

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Speaker 7: all over the place and causing traffic great problems. So

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Speaker 7: I know you're going to have Nathan guy on. I've

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Speaker 7: been on trade missions with Nathan in the past as well,

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Speaker 7: and he's from the red meat sector. Now he will

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Speaker 7: no doubt talk about sheep meat, but they won't be

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Speaker 7: talking about dairy.

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Speaker 3: By that time we went with Nathan Guy and had

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Speaker 3: we stopped off on was it Christmas Islands? Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 3: And remember we all got terribly sick on the plane.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that well? I think many eight subway

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Speaker 3: I brought it on the plane.

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Speaker 7: Was a fit of generosity to my colleague.

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Speaker 3: He subway in Mexico. You don't buy Western food in Mexico.

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Speaker 3: And they had to quarantine one of the toilets. That

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Speaker 3: was that.

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Speaker 7: And I remember Nathan Guy were at Christmas Island looking

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Speaker 7: at the statues and I said, Nathan, your family has

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Speaker 7: obviously been here before. Now I have a straight face,

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Speaker 7: do a straight face. I'm going to take a photo.

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Speaker 7: I showed it to our producer law today and I

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Speaker 7: pulled back from the face of the east Ardent statue.

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Speaker 7: It was Nathan Guy to a team.

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Speaker 14: It was yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: So it was good fun apart from when you made

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Speaker 3: e un sick.

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Speaker 7: Very well, I know anyway, and total generosity. But look

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Speaker 7: the free trade agreement with India. When I think about

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Speaker 7: David Longee now in the mid eighties. In nineteen eighty five,

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Speaker 7: the year after they were voted into offers rubbed you.

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Speaker 7: Gandhy it might have been eighty six, came here, came

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Speaker 7: to New Zealand and he was a great mate of

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Speaker 7: David Longie's.

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Speaker 3: They signed a free trade agreement you're kidningmade.

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Speaker 15: Where is it now?

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Speaker 3: What's happened to it? I don't know.

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Speaker 7: It's obviously got lost in the annals of history somewhere.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so well, well let's hope Luxon can can

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Speaker 3: only do what Gandhi couldn't.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think look any growing of trade

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Speaker 7: with India's importance to It's a massive country, like we

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Speaker 7: said last week.

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Speaker 3: Now, so it's worth going there. Peters is in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. It is a big test of his diplomatic

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Speaker 3: skill set, which is considerable.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know when you consider it's almost twenty

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Speaker 7: years to the day that twins and Peters became Foreign Minister,

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Speaker 7: and that was under Helen Clark. So he's had plenty

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Speaker 7: of experience strutting the stage. But he's going to use

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Speaker 7: or need all those diplomatic skills in Washington this week

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Speaker 7: because I'm sure there will be meetings that he does

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Speaker 7: go to where he would like to probably say a

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Speaker 7: bit more that he knows he's got to keep mum

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Speaker 7: and keep on side with the Americans. And like tonight

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Speaker 7: in Washington, I've had dinner at the High Commissioner's resident, oh, sorry,

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Speaker 7: the Ambassador's residence, Rosemary Banks. Now she was brought out

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Speaker 7: of retirement to become our ambassador there because she had

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Speaker 7: been our ambassador there when Donald Trump was in last time.

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Speaker 7: And the head of Foreigner has also arrived in the country,

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Speaker 7: so they're really seeing this series of meetings that piece

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Speaker 7: of will begin tomorrow as being extraordinarily important. He doesn't

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Speaker 7: meet Rubio, the Secretary of State until Wednesday. In the meantime,

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Speaker 7: he's having some fairly high powered meetings. And interestingly, where

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Speaker 7: he went to dinner just a few hours ago, the

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Speaker 7: residents in Washington is right next door to the American

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Speaker 7: Vice President's residence, so jd. Vance is just over the

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Speaker 7: fence in Washington.

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Speaker 2: And JD.

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Speaker 7: Vance was at a concert in Washington again last night

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Speaker 7: in the capital city, and he was booed round that

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Speaker 7: by people in the audience.

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Speaker 3: Tiny little bit of the Vice President's house is a

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Speaker 3: tiny little I think it's a former navyman's compared to Ford. Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 3: very quickly. David soon was on the show after five.

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Speaker 7: Well it should be very quick as well.

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Speaker 3: Right, it doesn't need to be long, does it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just one of those little things between these two,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 16: Well it is.

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Speaker 7: And you remember a while ago, I think it was

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Speaker 7: last year or something, or a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 7: Rowery White Tea was threatening to put some poisonous seed

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Speaker 7: and a David Seymour glass in Parliament. And of course

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Speaker 7: it is lighthearted and you know, I mean you can

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Speaker 7: play the race thing. And I mean the thing that

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Speaker 7: disturbed me most about the post that was made on

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Speaker 7: Instagram was the way that Rawori White Tea.

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Speaker 3: Cuts us lawns.

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Speaker 7: He had a weed easy, for God's sake cutting lawns

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Speaker 7: on you know, I mean it's going to take him

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Speaker 7: for bloody ever to cut his lawns with a weed

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Speaker 7: in to get out and get a mower like everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Not very efficient. Was exactly very Soper, Thank you very

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Speaker 3: much for that. Eight minutes away from five News Talks,

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Speaker 3: there'd been Nichola Willis here after six o'clock as well

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Speaker 3: David Seymour after five point thirty and after the News

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Speaker 3: at five. We're looking at the story of the day

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Speaker 3: to day, which is, of course is free trade deal

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Speaker 3: with India.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you. The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 17: What is our side of the story, And I mean,

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Speaker 17: how far down the track of our relationship do you

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Speaker 17: go in one single meeting with a guy like Rubio.

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Speaker 2: Well, with a go like.

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Speaker 18: Rubio, we've gover there well prepared because we've had probably

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Speaker 18: now over a year getting ready well before US selections

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Speaker 18: in November.

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Speaker 17: Crystal the Bell was speaking at the investment conference on Friday,

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Speaker 17: and he's got experience with Trump.

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Speaker 15: Of course he.

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Speaker 17: Said keep your head down, not used personally, but New

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Speaker 17: Zealand keep your head down. Back tomorrow at six am

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Speaker 17: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Maybe's Real Estate News Talk zebby.

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Speaker 3: It's coming up to five minutes away from five on

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZBB to Need University students. I was reading

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Speaker 3: about them just in the last couple of minutes. Great

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Speaker 3: to see the young ones out having a good time.

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Speaker 3: So they've been celebrating Saint Patrick's Day. They've had fireworks,

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Speaker 3: they've had binge drinking, and they've had couch fires all

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. Saturday morning, apparently they play a game

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Speaker 3: called six before six, which is six beers before six am.

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Speaker 3: And initially I thought that's easy, come on, but it's

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Speaker 3: from when you wake up, so they must wake up

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Speaker 3: at like five am. You're gonna have six beers before

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Speaker 3: six am, or you can do nine before nine. I

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Speaker 3: think it's nine wines before nine if you want to

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Speaker 3: do it that way, or agon before noon. Either way,

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Speaker 3: you're having a great time, aren't you. Anyway, I was

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Speaker 3: pleased to see this because I think of young people

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Speaker 3: now is sitting on their own in the corner of

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Speaker 3: a room with an iPad or a phone, rocking, you know,

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Speaker 3: debating internally which gender they are. You know, That's how

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Speaker 3: I picture young people these days, all depressed and horribly angry.

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Speaker 3: They're out there drinking, lighting couches on fire, running around

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Speaker 3: the street and having fun like the good old days.

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Speaker 3: So I'm pleased. News Talk z B it is coming

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Speaker 3: up to five o'clock. Nathan Guy on an FDA with

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Speaker 3: the Indians next.

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Speaker 1: Yea yea Love, questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show

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Speaker 1: You Trust for the full picture.

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Speaker 2: Brian Bridge on hither do for Sea?

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Speaker 1: Alan drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected news

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Speaker 1: talks at B.

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Speaker 3: Seven after five years talks did people do rates on yu?

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Speaker 3: Ear BnB? In just a second? Right now? The Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister's trip to India off to a flying art today

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Speaker 3: free trade deal negotiations are officially underway. Lux And is

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Speaker 3: set to meet with Nerandramodi later today. Export industries are

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Speaker 3: holding their breath. They're very hopeful about this, but is

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Speaker 3: it going to be comprehensive? Should we even get our

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Speaker 3: hopes up export industries? Sorry, our Meat Industry Association chair,

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Speaker 3: former Primary Industries Minister Nathan Guys with me from Delhi

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Speaker 3: minister a former minister. Good evening, Oh, good evening, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: how are you? Yeah? Good? Thanks, good to have you

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Speaker 3: back on the show. When you were last doing negotiations

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Speaker 3: or you were you were involved in those negotiations with

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Speaker 3: the Indians under the Key government was what was it?

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Speaker 3: Was it just dairy that was the sticking point? What

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Speaker 3: were the issues?

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Speaker 19: Our dere's always been in a little bit problematic up here.

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Speaker 19: But this is a comprehensive agreement that the negotiation that started.

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Speaker 19: So the word comprehensive is critical. Australia got a side

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Speaker 19: deal a few years ago, but we're hoping that we

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Speaker 19: can get something across the line. For Derry, I guess

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Speaker 19: the challenge will be to do with Indians who want

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Speaker 19: to come down to our fantastic country and how the

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Speaker 19: government chooses to manage that. But if I put my

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Speaker 19: red meat hat on, in particular in the sheep market, Ryan,

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Speaker 19: this is a significant day for our sheep farmers and

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Speaker 19: our processes because we're at the start line. Yes, we've

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Speaker 19: been here before, but it feels different. We've got a

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Speaker 19: massive delegation up here about eighty and the business delegation,

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Speaker 19: and that's significant. The Prime Minister has got some great

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Speaker 19: FaceTime with Prime Minister Modi, so the feeling is different.

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Speaker 19: And of course right now the world is crazy, so

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Speaker 19: we need to keep diversifying and looking at new market opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Is that what's making it different? You know, the Trump

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Speaker 3: the way the rest of the world is behaving right now.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that might actually help our chances? Is

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Speaker 3: that what's contributing to that different feeling.

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Speaker 19: I don't think it is. And India is also negotiating

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Speaker 19: with EU, UK and US so there's a lot going

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Speaker 19: on in this space. We're smaller, you know, if you

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Speaker 19: look at what's happening up here with sheep meat at

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Speaker 19: the moment, we're facing a thirty percent tariff and that's

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Speaker 19: a massive headwind. So there's not a lot going on here.

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Speaker 19: There's one company, Quality and Z who's been pushing against

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Speaker 19: strong headwinds in this market with New Zealand cricketers helping

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Speaker 19: them to get access. So that's quite a success story,

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Speaker 19: but certainly at low levels. So it just feels different

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Speaker 19: because a we hear big business delegation. Todd McLay has

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Speaker 19: been working tirelessly on this. I think he's up to

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Speaker 19: about a seventh visit.

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Speaker 3: He had a.

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Speaker 19: Fantastic meeting yesterday with his equivalent, Minister Gal So it

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Speaker 19: feels like we've got momentum. Ryan, we're at the start line.

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Speaker 3: Very good, exciting. Yeah, good luck with that. Nathan guy

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Speaker 3: who's the Meat Industry Association share of course, former Minister

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Speaker 3: of Primary Industries had done a few trips himself. They

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Speaker 3: need to give McLay an Indian passport at this point.

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Speaker 3: He's done that much travel between New Zealand and there

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Speaker 3: over the last couple of months. Ten minutes after five

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Speaker 3: News Talk set b Brian. Wellington councils on the hunt

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Speaker 3: for more cash because obviously they bug of their books

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Speaker 3: and they need revenue. It's got owners of airbnb properties

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Speaker 3: in sight. Currently anyone who runs an airbnb pays residential rates,

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Speaker 3: but the council is considering whether to charge them commercial

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Speaker 3: rates instead. Now that is three point seven times the bill.

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Speaker 3: This would mean rates for those properties could treble. Airbnb

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Speaker 3: hosts are worried they'll soon be without a business and

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Speaker 3: one example something this woman says she would be out

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Speaker 3: of business. Judy Wilson owns an Airbnb. She's also the

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Speaker 3: Airbnb Volunteer Community leader for Wellington.

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Speaker 15: Hi, Julie Suorder, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Good? Thank you, thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: How many for most people do they airbnb their own

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Speaker 3: house and do they are they therefore not living there

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Speaker 3: when the airbnb is staying.

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Speaker 16: Most actually airbnb their houses when they're away, so it's

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Speaker 16: primarily their family home and if they go on holiday

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Speaker 16: or if they're away, they'll airbnb their space. We also

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Speaker 16: have some hosts that works. They work out of Wellington

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Speaker 16: a few days a week or work in Wellington either way,

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Speaker 16: and they've got a home in Wellington and they will

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Speaker 16: rent out in Airbnb for that portion of the time

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Speaker 16: when they're away.

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Speaker 3: Right, what's your rate? What would your rates bill changed

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Speaker 3: to if this went ahead?

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Speaker 16: Oh, it's something around the forty thousand dollar mark. So

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Speaker 16: it would just mean we wouldn't it would you know,

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Speaker 16: it's well over what would even earn anything like that.

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Speaker 16: So myself and many hosts like me would just stop hosting.

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Speaker 16: We had just incorporate the Airbnb that's in the bow

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Speaker 16: of our house back into being our house, which I

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Speaker 16: mean it's used by my family when it's not being

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Speaker 16: used by an Airbnb, So that would kind of be

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Speaker 16: lost to the Wellington market. You know, all that money

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Speaker 16: that comes in from you know, having hosts, sorry, guests

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Speaker 16: come and stay with us.

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Speaker 3: Right, what's your what's your rates at the moment?

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Speaker 16: Just over eleven thousand, right, So I mean because they've

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Speaker 16: gone up, they've gone up, Wellington has gone up so

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Speaker 16: much recently, we've actually had more hosts coming on just

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Speaker 16: to be able to pay you know, pay their rates.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and potentially get stung by this. Okay, So here's

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Speaker 3: the argument. If you're what you're doing is a commercial

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Speaker 3: activity and you're you know, presumably your guests would be

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Speaker 3: using the roads and using the sewage and using the pipes,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. That the councils so justify why it shouldn't.

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Speaker 16: Be Well, they're not using it for any more than

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Speaker 16: what a normal house is intended. It's not like we're

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Speaker 16: you know, squeezing fifteen people into a two bedroom. It

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Speaker 16: would the same amount, you know. I think they keep

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Speaker 16: talking about the goal is to slice the rates pie fairly,

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Speaker 16: but charging sort of small part time hosts for commercial

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Speaker 16: rates is not really fair. Its success us, like many

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Speaker 16: of us kind of rate rent occasionally, not as a

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Speaker 16: full time business. But they're going to be treating us

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Speaker 16: the same as a hotel with hundreds of rooms kind

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Speaker 16: of overkills.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's what they might call

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Speaker 3: extortion actually, Julie.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and you know Wellington we need airbnbs like we

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Speaker 16: need them, like this weekend we had Homegrown and we

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Speaker 16: had the week fix triathlon. Hotels just won't meet the demand.

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Speaker 16: So there's certain times packs for world yeah, you know,

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Speaker 16: World of Wearable Arts, rugby games.

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Speaker 15: But I also look, I've.

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Speaker 3: Got family in Wellington. I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: You need you don't need somewhere else, You don't need options. Julie,

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Speaker 3: what do you think just because I've got you on

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Speaker 3: the line and you're from Wellington, what do you think

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Speaker 3: is going to happen with Is anyone going to vote

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Speaker 3: for Tori Finales?

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Speaker 16: She gone, well, I think she's probably gone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, good to know, Good to check him on

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Speaker 3: the pulse. Julie, thank you for that. Take care, good

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Speaker 3: luck with your fight. Julie Wilson, Airbnb owner. If the

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Speaker 3: council gets its way, their rates would go from about

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Speaker 3: eleven thousand to forty thousand a year. Fourteen minutes after

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Speaker 3: five News talk ZIB. Remember the Warriors game and remember

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Speaker 3: the deputy coach that got himself into trouble grabbing the throat,

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Speaker 3: allegedly grabbing the throat of a journalist. Well, his punishment

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Speaker 3: has been handed down. We'll tell you what it is

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Speaker 3: next News Talk zb It is seventeen minutes after five

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Speaker 3: loads of texts coming in on Airbnb's Ryan. The airbnb

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Speaker 3: owners shouldn't have to pay anything other than residential if

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Speaker 3: they are releasing out or short term renting. The same

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Speaker 3: number of beds in their house that they would otherwise occupy.

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Speaker 3: I tend to agree with that position. In terms of

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Speaker 3: the students down in a University of Otago who were

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Speaker 3: burning the couches and drinking the booze. Ryan, are my

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Speaker 3: two grandkids who are at Canterbury represented. So Ryan, my

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Speaker 3: two grandkids who are at Canterbury have gone down and

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Speaker 3: joined the two grandkids at Dunedin. Great. They are having

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Speaker 3: such a good time. Everything is just so negative at

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Speaker 3: the moment. What a lovely grandmother, Janed, go and burn

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Speaker 3: the couches, kids, I've got no problems. Eighteen after five

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Speaker 3: grayam Bridge. The NRL has issued a breach notice.

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Speaker 15: Sorry.

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Speaker 3: The NRL has issued a breach notice to Warriors assistant

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Speaker 3: coach Richard Agar after an altercation with a journalist during

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Speaker 3: the first NRL round in Las Vegas. You'll remember this.

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Speaker 3: It was in the news. The Big League podcast host

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Speaker 3: Nathan Limmers with us, good afternoon, Hey Ryan, how are

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Speaker 3: you good? Thank you? So he grabbed him by the throat,

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Speaker 3: didn't he Yeah?

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Speaker 20: So basically at halftime between the Warriors and the Raiders,

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Speaker 20: Richard Ago and the other coaches were descending down to

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Speaker 20: see the place from the coach's box, and it's alleged

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Speaker 20: that Richard Agar got into a verbal altercation with an

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Speaker 20: Australian journalist from the Guardian which resulted in him grabbing

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Speaker 20: him by the throat and pushing him. So the NRAL

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Speaker 20: have launched an investigation into this. The Warriors of Coach

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Speaker 20: and CEO both backed Agar after this sort of came out,

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Speaker 20: and so they've issued this breach notice suspending him for

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Speaker 20: three games ten thousand dollars fine, and he has to

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Speaker 20: undergo I guess some education of some sort of education

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Speaker 20: course around this sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: Not grabbing throat. Not grabbing throats would be the lesson

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Speaker 3: that he needs to learn. So this has come from

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Speaker 3: the NRL because I found it interesting that Warrior said

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Speaker 3: we're going to do our own investigation. What does that

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Speaker 3: mean nothing?

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Speaker 20: Well, I mean I guess that means they'll they talk

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Speaker 20: to Agar and get his side of the storm.

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Speaker 3: They didn't do anything, did they.

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Speaker 20: Well we don't know exactly what has gone on behind

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Speaker 20: the scenes, but the effectively what this band means is

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Speaker 20: the suspension means that he can't perform assistant coaching duties

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Speaker 20: on match days, so we can still be with the

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Speaker 20: team during the week, and he can't travel to the

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Speaker 20: team for their array games within this three game period.

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Speaker 20: So there are two away games coming up against this

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Speaker 20: Tigers and the Storm, he won't be able to make

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Speaker 20: the trip over right.

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Speaker 3: What's the Warrior saying about it? You've checked them?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, So I've just reached out to the Warriors and

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Speaker 20: have just got back to me saying that they have

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Speaker 20: no response to this breach. Notice, they have five days

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Speaker 20: to respond. They're not going to respond, which effectively means

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Speaker 20: they accept it and they're not going to appeal it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, Thanks so much for that, Nathan. Good to

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Speaker 3: see Nathan them. Who's with the Big Lead podcast here

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Speaker 3: at news Talks AB It has just gone twenty minutes

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Speaker 3: after five. Ryan. The airbnb we're talking about here, the

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Speaker 3: story is bizarre driven by greed just pay or get

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Speaker 3: out regards. Dennis, What do you mean, Dennis? Are you

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Speaker 3: saying that they should pay the higher rates? People don't

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Speaker 3: rent necessarily rent their Airbnb's out just because they're agreed there.

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Speaker 3: It might just be they want to try and cover

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Speaker 3: their exorbitant rates that they've got in the first place,

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Speaker 3: or you know, I don't know, make enough money to

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Speaker 3: go on a holiday once a year. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: you're a greedy person just because you rent out your

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Speaker 3: house for any does it? Twenty after five News Talks,

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Speaker 3: said be David Seymour here after the news at five

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Speaker 3: point thirty, him and Larwity whyett at it again.

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Speaker 2: Getting the facts, discarding the fluff.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither Duplice Ellen drive with one

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Speaker 1: New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected news Talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be twenty three minutes after five. Great to have

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Speaker 3: your company this evening. I'm getting just a little bit

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Speaker 3: sick and tired off the David Seymour Lbwity Whytetti show,

868
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: aren't you. It goes back and forth and back and

869
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: forth and back and forth, and each time it gets

870
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: sillier and sillier, and this time it is lwity Whytty

871
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: obviously joking. I don't think he's I don't think anybody

872
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: would watch that video and think I think Rahardy's serious

873
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: there he wants to go and chop David Seymour up

874
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: into tiny pieces like grass, you know, as he's as

875
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: he's weed whacking his lawn. I don't think anyone thinks that,

876
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: So why are we making a big deal out of it? Equally,

877
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: why did anyone make a big deal out of day

878
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: David Seymour saying he wanted to put fireworks under the

879
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: Ministry of Pacific Peoples or whatever. I mean, it's just dumb.

880
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: It's dumb on both sides. And I'm sorry, but David Seymour,

881
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: I was with you before when you said this is absurd.

882
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: Why they're making a big deal out of this? It

883
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: was just a joke that I made. Well, then why

884
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: are you making a big deal out of this? If

885
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: you each keep making big deals out of each other's nonsense,

886
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: then a bigger deal will be made every time. I

887
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: think we just can we not? We'll just see something

888
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: for what it is, no matter what side of politics

889
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: you're on, have a laugh and move on. Rayan Bridge

890
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 3: twenty four after five David Seymour on the show after

891
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: five point thirty, after the News at five thirty, so

892
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: we'll ask him lots more to come as well. After

893
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: six o'clock we're going to look at this building issue.

894
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: You know, everyone says it's too stuffy and hot inside

895
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 3: their homes because the government overinsulated. The regulations up the wazoos,

896
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: so now no one can breathe. Everyone's suffocating inside. Apparently

897
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: not so. The Building Research Association has some numbers. They'll

898
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 3: bring them to myself to fire. We've got Tim Wilson

899
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: and Mark Sainsbury on the huddle. They will debate the

900
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: airbnb business as she lots of your texts on that.

901
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 3: Got time for a couple here, Ryan Auckland. Council makes

902
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: me pay business rates for a one bedroom apartment I airbnb.

903
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: I use the apartment half the month for commuting for work,

904
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Speaker 3: and then I rented out when I'm not there no

905
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: allowance for my private use. It is extortion as the

906
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: person in the apartment utilizes the same services that I do,

907
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: says Dan Dan, I tend to agree with you. What

908
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: difference does it make to the council whether it's you

909
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 3: use flushing the toilet or whether it's Barbara staying from Wonaica.

910
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: It makes no difference to them, So that does annoy me.

911
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: I The only question I have is why did you

912
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: tell them? I mean, in all seriousness, I'm curious how

913
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: would the council know that it was Barbara from Wanaka's

914
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: stay in the night there and not you do they

915
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Speaker 3: come knocking.

916
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Speaker 21: The probably look on Airbnb to be fair on that one, right,

917
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 21: I suppose people they well, you don't have an address

918
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Speaker 21: on Airbnb?

919
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Speaker 3: That's the thing, Oh do you not? Only once you

920
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: make a booking will they tell you what the address is.

921
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: The rest is all a bit aloof So.

922
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Speaker 21: What we're saying is what the Falkland Council wants to

923
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Speaker 21: crack down on this. What they need to do is

924
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 21: a sign an investigator to basically stay in every Airbnb

925
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Speaker 21: in the city and work out where.

926
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Speaker 3: They are pretty much or they rely on the honesty

927
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Speaker 3: of good people like Dan Dan who's paying commercial I mean,

928
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: I'd hate to think what that would be. It's three

929
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Speaker 3: point seven times residential in Wellington. Mentionine what it would

930
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Speaker 3: be in Auckland. You're on news talks. There'd be great

931
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Speaker 3: to have your company. Nikola Willis after six, David Seymour.

932
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Speaker 22: Next ill lucky to you even how much you are.

933
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Speaker 1: According the challenging questions to the people at the heart

934
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Speaker 1: of the story, it's Ryan Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen

935
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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks

936
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Speaker 1: they'd be.

937
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Speaker 9: Are you having to have value?

938
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Speaker 2: They're away to.

939
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Speaker 3: A little bit crab good evening. It is twenty five

940
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Speaker 3: away from sex news talks. They'd been Nichola willis here

941
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Speaker 3: after six o'clock news this evening right now, Ryan Airbnb,

942
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Speaker 3: we've been debating whether they should pay rates or not

943
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: after this letter was received by Welling Tony and whose

944
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: the airbnb's their placed. The permanent one next door drives

945
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: me crazy, says this texter, after five years of misbehavior.

946
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Speaker 3: Guests are much better. The constant comings and goings and unnerving,

947
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 3: including those necessary for the business. But the owner works

948
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Speaker 3: hard to make it a business and it's open to

949
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Speaker 3: other neighbors, staying in touch if needed. It's probably nimbiism

950
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Speaker 3: of me, but I'd rather a stable renter or owner

951
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Speaker 3: on my desk doorstep. It sounds like a very reasonable

952
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 3: response from you, because if you have a genuinely horrific

953
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: Airbnb next to your house, it can be an absolute nightmare.

954
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Speaker 3: You just don't get any sleep. I know that because

955
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Speaker 3: I've been I've been in one of the people in

956
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: the horrific Airbnb business kept the neighbors awake one night.

957
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: That yeah, probably not a good thing. I'll be going

958
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: to help that twenty four minutes away from.

959
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Speaker 2: Six Ryan Bridge.

960
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Speaker 3: Okay, David Seymour and Darby Y two TI, it's all

961
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Speaker 3: on again. He's with us now, David, good afternoon, good evening.

962
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Speaker 13: Well, good evening, And actually it's not all on. One

963
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 13: person has made an objectionable comment. That's it. Okay, So

964
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Speaker 13: what's to imply that most parties are somehow guilty of

965
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 13: totally misleading?

966
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well I'm sorry for misleading everybody. David,

967
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: what's what's what's your problem with this?

968
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Speaker 13: Well, look, I just make the point that if you

969
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Speaker 13: go out on social media and say that you know

970
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 13: you're mowing your lawns and you think that you're going

971
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 13: to treat the lawns like David Seymour and they need

972
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 13: a good hiding, or any other political figure or any person,

973
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 13: I just think if we all know, if I was

974
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Speaker 13: to say that about another politician, I'm sure it'd be

975
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 13: leading the news for three or four nights. But the

976
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 13: sad reality is that we now have a political party

977
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 13: in New Zealand that is race based, that preaches violence.

978
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 13: This is not the first time that preaches racial supremacy,

979
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 13: and unfortunately we've all been giving them an easy pass

980
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 13: because we hold them to lower standards because the Maori.

981
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 13: And it's it's horrible to say all that, but I

982
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 13: don't know how else you've describe the situation.

983
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: Can you not just sit there and have a laugh

984
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 3: and think, oh, he's just having a joke, you know,

985
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: like you did with the Ministry Pacific people's I mean

986
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: I looked at that and I thought, he's just having

987
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: a joke. That's kind of funny. I don't think David

988
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: Seymour was a terrorist. Do you think they already white

989
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: white to he's a murderer. No, so let's just have

990
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: a laugh. Move on.

991
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 13: Well, there's a bit of a plausibility question. If your

992
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 13: argument is that I was going to disinter a guy

993
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 13: from four hundred years ago who had a failed plots,

994
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 13: you know, there were many layers of irony in that,

995
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 13: and I disowned it as soon as I said it.

996
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 13: On the other hand, you know you've got someone who's saying, well,

997
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 13: I think a person should get a good hiding. That

998
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 13: actually is plausible. There's people out there that probably think

999
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 13: that they should attack people that they disagree with physically,

1000
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 13: so that there is actually a big difference in plausibility.

1001
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 13: One is so obviously ridiculous, so the other ones not.

1002
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's move on very quickly. I want

1003
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: to ask you, David, sorry, Christopher Luxen was asked over

1004
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: in India overnight about the coalition if they're willing to

1005
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: do with Ukraine. I'm interested to know would you, as

1006
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: the act party. I know that you have been the

1007
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: party in particular has been big in supporting Ukraine, support

1008
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: New Zealand troops being on the ground, and in any

1009
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: way that they can be supportive to some sort of

1010
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 3: peace resolution.

1011
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 13: Well, a couple of things. First of all, there actually

1012
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 13: has to be a post conflict situation and then there

1013
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 13: has to be a coalition at the moment. Neither of

1014
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 13: those things are true. However, the New Zealand government has

1015
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 13: been participating in discussions with a number of other militaries

1016
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 13: twenty or thirty other militaries in Europe about what that

1017
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 13: might look like. Once there's a proposition on the table,

1018
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 13: then I think we as a government could start to

1019
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 13: make a decision about what that looks like. I think,

1020
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 13: on balance, you know, this is not the government policy.

1021
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 13: We haven't discussed this, but I think New Zealand is

1022
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 13: a country that cannot defend itself alone. We must rely

1023
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 13: on to of security, defending ourselves in line with other

1024
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 13: countries who share our values, and that of course means

1025
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 13: that as we have in the past and two World

1026
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 13: Wars and many other conflicts, it means that sometimes we

1027
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 13: must join such coalitions. I just hate that there isn't

1028
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 13: one yet, but that's been traditionally our stances as a country.

1029
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Speaker 3: David, thank you very much for your time, the party leader,

1030
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: David C.

1031
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1032
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: Twinning away from six the.

1033
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 2: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.

1034
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Speaker 3: Find your one of a kind on the heart of tonight.

1035
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: Tim Wilson from the Maximum Institute, Hey Tim.

1036
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 15: Hey Ryan, how's it going?

1037
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good? Thank you? Mark Sainsbury's here broadcaster in Wellington.

1038
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: Hey Mark, how you Ryan? Look, I've got a lot

1039
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: of respect for David Seymour, but I just find it

1040
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 3: a little exasperating when you're going tip the tattle on

1041
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: something so stupid. Tim, What do you think? Yeah?

1042
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 23: I can you know I was I was sexually affecting

1043
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 23: as you did your editorial. There is sort of like

1044
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 23: a bit of a dysfunctional relationship between two party, my

1045
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 23: and act.

1046
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 15: You sort of wonder who needs the other more I do.

1047
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 23: I do take David's point though, that it was quite

1048
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 23: it was personal, and if something did happen to David Seymour,

1049
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 23: I think we'd backtrack. The one thing that I want

1050
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 23: to land on here is that I noticed that Waits

1051
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 23: in his Instagram story he used an adjective beginning with

1052
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Speaker 23: F that was misspelled, And I have to say, this

1053
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 23: is probably why many charter schools, because people just aren't

1054
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 23: spelling things properly.

1055
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: I think it was misspelled on purpose, wasn't it?

1056
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 2: Mark?

1057
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: What about you? What do you reckon earth to Mark?

1058
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: Are you there? Mark? You've muted yourself with check bones?

1059
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 15: It always helps?

1060
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: There, you go, Yeah, he's canceled.

1061
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Speaker 15: He's canceled himself.

1062
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 24: No, my big problems have got a bony year, which

1063
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 24: sort of when I first looked at this, I must

1064
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Speaker 24: say I did sort of think, look, if someone.

1065
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Speaker 15: Else had said this or suggested that, people would be

1066
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Speaker 15: up in arms.

1067
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Speaker 24: But I was really in disciplined your editorial, same as Tim,

1068
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Speaker 24: because it did sort of clarify the thinking. I mean,

1069
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 24: you look at it and you go, oh, look for

1070
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 24: God's sake and they're talking about giving the grass a hiding,

1071
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 24: like David Seymour, and we know that they don't mean that,

1072
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 24: I mean, boy boy, instead of everyone's sort of so

1073
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 24: trigger happy on anything. You can't say a thing without

1074
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 24: it being so Look, I think, yeah, I think there's

1075
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 24: a bit of sort of give and take.

1076
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Speaker 15: Was it the smartest thing to do?

1077
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Speaker 1: No?

1078
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 24: No, not necessarily, but yeah, I just think we're getting

1079
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 24: all sort of wound up over something.

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Speaker 3: I can understand why. I can understand why though, because

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Speaker 3: David Seymour is always the target, right, so when he

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00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: says something, their immediate response is of David Seymour's a racist. Now,

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Speaker 3: I imagine that after a while that must get incredibly frustrating.

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Speaker 3: You'd start to feel down about it. And after a

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Speaker 3: while you probably do lose a bit of your sense

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Speaker 3: of humor too, and everything becomes quite reactive, you know, tim, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 23: That's a Look, that's the danger with the whole extreme

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Speaker 23: and polarized. That's why polarization sort of mode that we're in.

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Speaker 23: And unfortunately MMP does tend to reward that, particularly for

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Speaker 23: you know, plus five percent parties. The way I'm going

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Speaker 23: to look at this is it's just two blokes who

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Speaker 23: don't know how to show affection. Showing affection.

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Speaker 3: You should.

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Speaker 15: You could form little support groups of them maybe, but.

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Speaker 2: Me and Ryan will do it.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of love and support for David Seyma

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Speaker 3: on the text machine. David is absolutely right Ryan, he

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00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: is absolutely spot on as always, so a lot of

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Speaker 3: people backing him and supporting him, which is good, good

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Speaker 3: for him. I suppose seventeen minutes away from six News

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Speaker 3: Talks he be Tim Wilson and Mark Sainsbury will get

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Speaker 3: into the big topics of today's uddle.

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Speaker 1: Next the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the

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Speaker 1: ones with local and global reach.

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Speaker 3: Tim Wilson and Mark Sansbury on the huddle tonight. Mark,

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Speaker 3: You're soon going to be the mayor of Wellington, so

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Speaker 3: you can decide on this. You can decide for us

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: about the ed BMB debarcle. This woman who might have

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Speaker 3: to pay commercial rates on an Airbnb at home, what

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Speaker 3: do you say, Oh.

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Speaker 15: Look, it's just nuts.

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Speaker 24: I mean you look, it's going to go to the

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Speaker 24: You know that they are going to have a look

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Speaker 24: at this, and that's one of the options that people

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Speaker 24: pay full commercial rates.

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Speaker 15: But you know the rates in the city. You're just crazy.

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Speaker 15: I had some sympathy listening to.

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Speaker 24: Your guest on before is at Duly because our rates

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Speaker 24: went up I think, you know, like from about six

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Speaker 24: to nine grand and then they drop the value of

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Speaker 24: our properties by twenty percent.

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Speaker 15: So there's a lot of people that have to look

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Speaker 15: at sort of spreading it out.

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Speaker 24: And the thing I don't get is if I buy

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Speaker 24: a house and then rent it out, you know, to

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Speaker 24: a bunch of students or whatever, is that a commercial enterprise.

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Speaker 24: I'm not paying commercial rates on that. If I have someone,

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Speaker 24: you know, if I get in a flatmate or a

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Speaker 24: border you're not paying commercial rates.

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Speaker 15: But if you're doing you know, one of your rooms

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Speaker 15: for and that's where it's silly.

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Speaker 24: If you're only doing a couple of rooms for Airbnb

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Speaker 24: or just doing it occasionally, it just makes them do

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Speaker 24: an absolute nonsense. So a lot of sympathy, a lot

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Speaker 24: a lot of sympathy for Emma read she did a

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Speaker 24: found out if you saw the video, she did a

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Speaker 24: fantastic video to the council with lots of props I think,

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Speaker 24: which is always useful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that because you make a good point

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Speaker 3: about renters. This is this just REGs because there's not

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Speaker 3: extra any extra drain on resources for the council. This

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Speaker 3: is just they need some more money, so they're going

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Speaker 3: into fishing.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it seems like that. And you sort of think

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Speaker 15: the with airbnb.

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Speaker 23: I mean, if it's if it's a commercial I understand

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Speaker 23: commercial building. Oh okay, so they use the toilet a

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Speaker 23: lot more, use the shower a lot more, whatever it

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Speaker 23: is the infrastructure. But airbnbs aren't always occupied, so it

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Speaker 23: seems manifestly unfair to increase, you know, increase the rates

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Speaker 23: by four times because you're operating in airbnb, so you know,

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Speaker 23: and look at if it's a business. If you do

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Speaker 23: a home office, you get a tax rebate. You say, oh,

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Speaker 23: this is a business area, and the tax goes back.

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Speaker 23: So it just seems upside down.

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Speaker 24: See, there's big problems, right I'm sane Queenstown where a

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Speaker 24: lot of people converted their places to airb and b's

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Speaker 24: and it cut out the available rentals for people working

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Speaker 24: there and all that sort of cause major issues. And

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Speaker 24: you can see them having they have a look at that.

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Speaker 24: This is this is this is a different scenario. It's

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Speaker 24: not the same sort of numbers in Wellington or same

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Speaker 24: proportion of properties converting.

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Speaker 15: To AIRB and B.

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Speaker 24: So yeah, it does look like that they're desperate for

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Speaker 24: Doe and they're gonna they're going to screw it out

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Speaker 24: of anyone they can find.

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Speaker 15: There you go vote vote for saying so.

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Speaker 3: Run it's going to say, can you please confirm that

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Speaker 3: that will be item number one on your campaign? Hey,

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Speaker 3: people are deciding against going on holiday in the United

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Speaker 3: States because of Donald Trump. Apparently Apparently people saying they'll

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Speaker 3: leave the country because you know, in terms of emigrate

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Speaker 3: because they are sick of them. But would you avoid

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Speaker 3: going on a holiday? If anything, it would make things

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Speaker 3: more interesting? I would have thought, tim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well exactly.

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Speaker 23: And if they're going because they think Trump's unaccepted, or

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Speaker 23: where are they going to go? I mean, I hear

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Speaker 23: Russia is nice at this time of year, the Kimchi

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Speaker 23: and North Korea is quite good. And they're saying they're saying,

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Speaker 23: actually that the Chinese visitors is down. So wait, so

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Speaker 23: they're coming from a country that has concentration camps for

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Speaker 23: wigas and they're assuing America because of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 15: Oh boy, go and check your compass.

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Speaker 24: Well, the Germans have got a bit of a different

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Speaker 24: view in it because there's a couple of German terrorists

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Speaker 24: were detained after trying to enter the United States legally

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Speaker 24: and they were detained for weeks and it's caused a

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Speaker 24: big stink in Europe. So and a lot of Germans

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Speaker 24: are now reconsidering what to do. Would it stop me

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Speaker 24: from going on holiday and doing something in the Star?

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Speaker 24: I mean, I love going to the States. I think

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Speaker 24: the States so it's a bit like India, you know,

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Speaker 24: you go to a different state every time, it's like

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Speaker 24: visiting a different country. But look, they had this when

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Speaker 24: George w got in. There were people saying, you know,

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Speaker 24: in the States, same thing, We're going to leave.

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Speaker 5: Here and going to come back for four years and

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Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff never happened, never happened like

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Speaker 5: everyone sort of thought was going to And I think

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Speaker 5: it's just although the numbers are seen to be showing

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Speaker 5: that people are that are crying off going there, but

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Speaker 5: mainly from people who feel as.

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Speaker 15: Though they could be targeted.

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Speaker 24: And with this whole sort of immigration sweeps, like these

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Speaker 24: poor whole German tourists, you wouldn't want to get caught

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 24: up in it.

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Speaker 15: But would that stop me?

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Speaker 3: No, no, since you were the US correspond In fact,

1211
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Speaker 3: were both of you US correspondents.

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Speaker 15: I was the europe one.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's right. It's interesting. I was thinking about the

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Speaker 3: United States. Why don't they just not be the United States?

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01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: They get so divided to be better on this, they

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01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: get so divided, why not just break up? I mean,

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Speaker 3: for goodness sake, misery.

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Speaker 23: There is actually a guy called political thinker called Samuel

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01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 23: Huntington that says that this is the way that America

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Speaker 23: stops political decay, the sort of there's a productive friction

1221
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Speaker 23: in this disunity and you know the whole Oh, you know,

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01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 23: all the polarization is terrible. I don't know if Americans

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01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 23: always think it's a terrible thing. I think they've got

1224
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 23: a different disposition to us down here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because by now, I mean if they were

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Speaker 3: if they were a married couple, it'd be that bad

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Speaker 3: for the children. Someone would be asking for a divorce.

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Speaker 23: You know what I mean, no nonsense, but have eighteen children.

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Speaker 9: Friction producers love Brian, Oh god.

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Speaker 3: Tim thank you. Timinson with the maximums deject and Mark

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Speaker 3: Sainsbury broadcast out of Wellington for US tonight, nine minutes

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Speaker 3: away from six year on News Talks, he'd be now

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Speaker 3: the recession. Don't worry, we won't be in one, hopefully

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Speaker 3: if the economists aren't to be believed. But we've got

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Speaker 3: a GDP figure coming out on Thursday. RB and z's

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Speaker 3: expecting point three. A and z's expecting point four. Westpac

1237
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: expecting point five, although they reckon'll actually be more like zero.

1238
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Speaker 3: So there's this weird disconnect between what wes PAC believes

1239
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Speaker 3: the number will be and what will be announced on

1240
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Speaker 3: Thursday and what the number actually will be. You might

1241
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: notice the last time we got a number it was

1242
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Speaker 3: months later revised down and then down again. So how

1243
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Speaker 3: accurate will the number be on Thursday? A question for

1244
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 3: Nikola Willis who's here after six?

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupla c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks HERB. It is five away from six now.

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Speaker 3: Also for Nicola Willis is coming up after the news

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Speaker 3: at six here on News Talks HEIRB The services sector

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Speaker 3: index fell today. This is for February. It's the B

1251
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Speaker 3: and Z businesses out on Performance Services Index down one

1252
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 3: point three points to forty nine point one. Positive territory

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Speaker 3: is anything above fifty, So that's not good for us. Now. Importantly,

1254
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: two thirds of our economy, including all of our tourism,

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01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: all of our retail, and all of our hospitality are

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Speaker 3: measured in this index. So for us to finally get

1257
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Speaker 3: back to a positive number only to then dip to

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Speaker 3: a negative again is not a good Nicola willis on

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Speaker 3: that after.

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Speaker 2: Six Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: The submarine cable that we have. Did you know we

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Speaker 3: have a cable that goes for our telecommunications that goes

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Speaker 3: between here Australia Sydney basically, then it goes up through

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Speaker 3: the Pacific and all the way across the Pacific to

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Speaker 3: the western coast of the United States. Four thousand kilometers

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Speaker 3: of this giant undersea cable are going to be lit

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Speaker 3: up with the lasers to try and help detect any

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Speaker 3: tsunami or earthquake movement under the ocean. It's pretty incredible stuff.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen so masses streets of it four

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Speaker 3: thousand kilometers and any when they shine this laser through

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Speaker 3: the I don't know exactly how I'm being honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pretend I know, but they fire a

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Speaker 3: laser through the cable and they are able to measure

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Speaker 3: if there's any movement, and that movement might indicate either

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Speaker 3: an earthquake or a tsunami. And what I can tell

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Speaker 3: you it is earthquakes and tsunamis. I'm bad things, and

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Speaker 3: the more we know about them, the bitter off will be.

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Speaker 3: He's talksy beat Nichola Willis, she knows a thing or

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Speaker 3: two about finances with us. After six That.

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Speaker 5: Girl to heavy with the end run, just you and

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Speaker 5: me and a truck bad while like a Californy came.

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Speaker 5: We could break it in if you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: put somes on it.

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Speaker 3: That girl savy with the end run, just you, me

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Speaker 3: and a truck bad while like a Californy came.

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Speaker 2: We could brig it in.

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Speaker 3: If you know what I mean, push some, we do

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Speaker 3: brig it in. If you know what I mean, push some,

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Speaker 3: we do brig it in.

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Speaker 22: If you know what I mean, push some miles on it.

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Speaker 2: We're business.

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Speaker 1: This meets Insight the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge, and

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Speaker 1: there's insurance and investments, growl.

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Speaker 2: Your wealth, protect your future, News talks MB good Evening.

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Speaker 3: It has just gone seven minutes up and six year

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Speaker 3: on News Talks dB. It's still to come on the

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Speaker 3: Business Our Shane Soli. We'll look at changes that Chinese

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Speaker 3: regulators are making there to try and accelerate economic growth.

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Speaker 3: We've got new research on insulation, how warm it makes

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Speaker 3: your house really And Gavin Gray's in the UK for

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Speaker 3: us right now, Nickola, what this is the finance minister, Minister,

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Speaker 3: good evening, Good evening, Ron What do you make of

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Speaker 3: the services sector? This is down again after what it's

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Speaker 3: down after going up. We thought we were getting a

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Speaker 3: bit of relief there. It was positive territory. Now it's

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Speaker 3: down again and what do you think that says about

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Speaker 3: our prospects for growth?

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Speaker 12: Well, as you say, it was expanding the months before

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Speaker 12: and then has come back a little bit. And I

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Speaker 12: think this is just what happens during a recovery. Things

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Speaker 12: do bounce around a little bit. What you want to

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Speaker 12: see is a trend of things getting better. So you've

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Speaker 12: got a look month to month and I hope that

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Speaker 12: it will be expanding in the next month. It's good

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Speaker 12: to see manufacturing was up again and that is expanding again.

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Speaker 12: That's really positive.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of forecasts about global growth being

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Speaker 3: hit by Trump's trade teriffs. Have you had any advice

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Speaker 3: on the potential effect on New Zealand's economy.

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Speaker 12: Yet, Yes, I have. Look, there are a couple of effects.

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Speaker 12: The first is what you've seen in international debt and

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Speaker 12: bond markets is that the price of borrowing has gone up,

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Speaker 12: so there's no escaping that. For New Zealand. We're having

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Speaker 12: to borrow funds to service the debt we built up

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Speaker 12: during COVID, and so the interest fee on that is

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Speaker 12: likely to increase. The second thing that's harder to predict

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Speaker 12: is if we see a slow down in global growth,

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Speaker 12: how does that slow down effect New Zealand. Well, it

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Speaker 12: depends which markets it effects and whether our exports get

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Speaker 12: lower prices as a result, and that's very hard to know.

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Speaker 12: So our forecasters are looking into all of the detail

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Speaker 12: and I won't get their final assumptions on that after

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Speaker 12: a little while.

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Speaker 3: Yet, what have they told you is top line potential

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Speaker 3: figures between what and what.

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Speaker 12: They haven't given me those figures yet, Ryan, because they

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Speaker 12: are the first to say there are really dynamic effects here.

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Speaker 12: On the one hand, we might get some positive upside

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Speaker 12: in some markets where we might be getting higher prices. Perversely,

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Speaker 12: inflation can have a positive impact for some exports and

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Speaker 12: for some markets. On the other hand, if we see

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Speaker 12: decline in global growth, that could affect our trade position

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Speaker 12: as well.

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Speaker 9: So they are very.

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Speaker 12: Careful to say to me, there's things on one side

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Speaker 12: of the ledger, there's things on the other side of

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Speaker 12: the ledger. We'll tell you how we think it's all

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Speaker 12: going to pan out later on, when we're closer to

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Speaker 12: the budget for casts being put to bed.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of which, this is really putting the squeeze on you,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. You've got your debt servicing costs going up,

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Speaker 3: thank you Trump, and potentially your revenue via export revenue

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Speaker 3: taxes being cut at the same time. How do you

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Speaker 3: put a budget together?

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Speaker 12: Well, it's a challenging time to put a budget together

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Speaker 12: because we are still in a mode of having to

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Speaker 12: consolidate our financial position after years of spending much more

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Speaker 12: than we earned, so we are in a tight environment.

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Speaker 12: We're also having to meet some really significant commitments. We

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Speaker 12: do need to increase our investment and defense and foreign

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Speaker 12: affairs capability. We do need to provide for some redress

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Speaker 12: for those survivors of abuse and state care, whom the

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Speaker 12: Royal Commission reported on last year. We need a big

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Speaker 12: uplift and funding for our health system. Our schools need

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Speaker 12: an uplift and funding. Our police need an uplift and funding.

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Speaker 12: So our challenge is to meet all of those costs

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Speaker 12: within a tide operating environment. The only way we will

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Speaker 12: do that is by finding savings and areas where we're

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Speaker 12: not getting maximum impact for the public dollar. We've been

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Speaker 12: working on that for months, so we're in a good

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Speaker 12: position right now. I'm confident we'll deliver it to New

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Speaker 12: Zealander's priorities.

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Speaker 3: Can you give us can you set us an expectation

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Speaker 3: of what exactly your cut.

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Speaker 12: Look, what we've done is we've looked across government, both

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Speaker 12: at an individual department or agency level and at a

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Speaker 12: cross government as a whole. We've said, not just so

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Speaker 12: much what are the areas that are completely wasteful, but

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Speaker 12: where are the areas where there was a good intention

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Speaker 12: But actually, when we measure it up in the cold

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Speaker 12: light of day, these dollars are not delivering as much

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Speaker 12: as they could elsewhere. So there's a number of areas

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Speaker 12: we've looked at will make them all clear on budget day.

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Speaker 12: But one thing is a theme of the budget, which

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Speaker 12: is that the public service isn't going to get more

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Speaker 12: funding for doing the same thing. There is only more

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Speaker 12: funding if New Zealanders are going to benefit from additional

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Speaker 12: services or improved impact from those services.

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Speaker 3: Will you do away with entire departments or agencies.

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Speaker 12: That's not on the agenda for this budget because the

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Speaker 12: judgment that we've made at the stage is that could

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Speaker 12: end up costing us more in the short term than

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Speaker 12: we would deliverance savings.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got basically got to make a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of cuts, which I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: will completely understand at a time like this. What about

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Speaker 3: revenue measures? Can you rule out new revenue measures that

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Speaker 3: will hit people sneakily in the back pocket?

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Speaker 12: Well, I have already been very open that we are

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Speaker 12: currently consulting on changes to the charities system, the way

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Speaker 12: that charities are taxed. We want to keep the charity

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Speaker 12: system strong, but there are a few integrity issues that

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Speaker 12: are popped up there. So that is on our revenue agenda.

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Speaker 12: But look, I'm acutely conscious that the cost of living

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Speaker 12: is the number one concern for most key we so

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Speaker 12: we're working very hard to make sure this is a

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Speaker 12: budget that helps their back pocket, doesn't harm it.

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Speaker 3: So no extra levy increases, you know, no tourist visitor

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Speaker 3: levy increases, no congestion charging in this one. No bed

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Speaker 3: tax is coming for the councils, no motor vehicle charge increases,

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Speaker 3: nothing like that.

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Speaker 12: Well, there's no bed tax or anything novel like that.

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Speaker 12: I think what I would say is that across government

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Speaker 12: there's always work being done on where levees are set

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Speaker 12: in various areas. So that's not a specific budget initiative

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Speaker 12: that I've taken, but that work goes on throughout the

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Speaker 12: year under any government.

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Speaker 3: The bid text oneions in particular, you mean, no.

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Speaker 12: I'm not. I'm not I'm ruling that out at this point.

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Speaker 12: That's not going to be in my budget. But what

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Speaker 12: I mean is in terms of levies across government, So

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Speaker 12: the charges that government agencies fund for their services, those

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Speaker 12: are constantly being reviewed. They're not specific to a budget process.

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Speaker 3: Right, so at the budget none of them will go up.

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Speaker 12: The budget will make very clear what we are doing,

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Speaker 12: and I'm not.

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Speaker 8: Going to.

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Speaker 3: This is what you're going to have to do, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Because as you said, your borrowing costs are going up.

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Speaker 3: You were lumped with the debt by the last lot,

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Speaker 3: and we're not going to have as much tax revenue

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Speaker 3: because Trump's coming to gobble some of our profits.

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Speaker 12: Look, as I say, Ryan, I'm very clear that the

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Speaker 12: goal on the budget is to make it easier for

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Speaker 12: everyday Kiwi's not harder, and so I am very allergic

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Speaker 12: to costs that fall on everyday kiwis and my budget

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Speaker 12: will reflect that.

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Speaker 3: Hey, the defense spending, we know that you want to

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Speaker 3: get to two percent of GDP. We've had Duti Collins

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Speaker 3: on saying that they want to get Obviously it's a

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Speaker 3: matter of time. Much of that I'm assuming will be

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Speaker 3: capital spending. Does that mean that it won't come out

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Speaker 3: of your operating How does that work?

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Speaker 12: Well, it's a combination of both. So on the one hand,

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Speaker 12: we do need to make sure that the Defense Force

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Speaker 12: has the funding it needs day to day to pay

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Speaker 12: for its increasing costs and everything from ammunition to sending

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Speaker 12: soldiers over on deployment, to the pay for soldiers and

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Speaker 12: recruiting people in specialist roles. So we do expect to

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Speaker 12: continue to increase the operating funding for the defense forces.

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Speaker 12: It's also capital funding. As you know, we've got a

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Speaker 12: lot of kit we need to replace, from planes to ships,

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Speaker 12: to drones and everything in between. So that will be

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Speaker 12: a big part of the capability plan that we're putting

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Speaker 12: together is what pieces of kit do we need in

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Speaker 12: what order and how does it all come together? Well,

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Speaker 12: not in one budget. Our plan is about what do

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Speaker 12: we need to do over successive budgets to increase our

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Speaker 12: investment over time and make sure we have fully capable

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Speaker 12: defense force.

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Speaker 3: The average salary public servants the Public Service Commission, the

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Speaker 3: average salary one hundred and fifty five thousand a year

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Speaker 3: at the Social Investment Agency, one hundred and forty nine thousand,

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Speaker 3: the Ministry for Regulation. Ironically one hundred and forty eight

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars corrections is the lowest salary eighty six thousand

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Speaker 3: for your average. Are we getting value for money here?

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Speaker 3: And why does this keep going up? Why is there

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Speaker 3: more money going to public servants under using ground Robertson well.

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Speaker 12: Across the public service as a whole, the median income

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Speaker 12: is eighty eight thousand, nine hundred. Now that compares to

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Speaker 12: what I'm advised is the average pay for a frontline

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Speaker 12: nurse once you include their overtime, they get paid around

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Speaker 12: one hundred and twenty five thousand, and there are more

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Speaker 12: than twenty nine thousand nurses employed within our public service.

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Speaker 12: So yes, there are some policy analysts and some agencies

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Speaker 12: getting paid a bit more than that. But our view

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Speaker 12: is that ensuring that you have a really great frontline

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Speaker 12: public service is where the focus should be. And you

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Speaker 12: will have seen that overall the numbers and the public

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Speaker 12: service have reduced on our watch, and that reflects the

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Speaker 12: fact that we want more resources going to those frontline

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Speaker 12: roles teachers, nurses and the like and less bound up

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Speaker 12: in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: Would you be announcing like a twenty percent saving target

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Speaker 3: target for this budget for some agencies that sort of

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Speaker 3: you know, that sort of thing you did the first

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Speaker 3: time round.

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Speaker 12: That's not an announcement I'm going to make. But we've

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Speaker 12: made it really clear to every agency that if they

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Speaker 12: want to do new things, and they all have lots

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Speaker 12: of bright ideas well, the first thing they should do

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Speaker 12: is go and find out what's not working, stop doing

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Speaker 12: it and use those savings to fund the bright new ideas.

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Speaker 12: That's the way businesses work, That's the way households work.

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Speaker 12: We expect the public service to be acting the same way.

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Speaker 3: All right, Nichola Willis really appreciate your time receiving Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for being with me. Thank you, Finance mister Nicola,

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Speaker 3: Finance minister, I should say Nicola Willis with us. Sixteen

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Speaker 3: after Shane Solely on the Market's Next.

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Speaker 3: Solis here Harbor Rest Management, Shane. Good evening today, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: let's have a look at the market share we how

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Speaker 3: are we looking well?

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Speaker 14: We saw a little bit of a recovery in the

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Speaker 14: US market on Friday, a little bit about the government,

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Speaker 14: the US government managing to avoid a debt ceiling problem

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Speaker 14: and actually open make sure the government doesn't shut down.

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Speaker 14: And also mister Trump managed to stop making too many announcements.

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Speaker 14: But we actually saw some weaker economic data and so

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Speaker 14: we saw some consumer confidence surveys come out, weaker inflation expectations.

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Speaker 14: All behind. This is all about this US government reset

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Speaker 14: that's going on, trying to get the spending down the

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Speaker 14: US government and obviously the uncertainty trade tariffs. So quite

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Speaker 14: an interesting friday here in Zeland. We were a little

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Speaker 14: bit better today, but still we're not exactly all on

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Speaker 14: the way but soon. I think some of that volatility

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Speaker 14: was in the last few weeks just toning down a

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Speaker 14: little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Hey, over to China, the regulators there seem

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Speaker 3: to be really putting their foot down to try and

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Speaker 3: support the Chinese economy. I know they had their January

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Speaker 3: February figures for import export imports were down eight percent.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so it's a great point, Ryan, They're starting from

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Speaker 14: a low start point, so that they have seen the

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Speaker 14: need to increase stimulation. Last week they had what's called

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Speaker 14: the Chinese National People's Conference, the NPC, and it really

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Speaker 14: had a bunch of policies and lifting this economy. One

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Speaker 14: of the really notable things was that if more aggressively

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Speaker 14: targeted consumed consumption, really trying to get Chinese consumers given

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Speaker 14: the confidence to get out there. They've gone out with

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Speaker 14: a thirty point plan over the weekend. One thing that

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Speaker 14: we noticed though for New Zealm was that they're targeting

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Speaker 14: and lifting birth rates. Things like increased maturity, patunitary childcare,

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Speaker 14: health care policies, and some of the cities are actually

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Speaker 14: really throwing subsidies basically giving you ten thousand, which is

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01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 14: quite a lot of you in a second or field

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01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 14: or forth tier city to have babies, to have children.

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Speaker 14: That's pretty good for China's demand for New Zealand andant

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01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 14: milk formula. And so we've seen a to milk, the

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Speaker 14: milk formula producer up ten percent over the week on

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Speaker 14: the back of that news. So yep, plenty of plenty

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Speaker 14: of similars going on there.

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Speaker 3: And just finding back here. Shares in smart pace spiking

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01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 3: high today. This is several takeover offers that we've been

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Speaker 3: hearing about.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, interesting times. So smart pay e literronic prepaid solutions

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Speaker 14: that it had a bed from Australian as the company Tyro,

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Speaker 14: and also an international strategic party. We don't know who

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Speaker 14: that is. Tyro has been effectively the same as a dollar.

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 14: It's some shares and some cash. It's about a dollar.

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01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 14: And the boards basically said, hey, look, just wait, We're

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Speaker 14: going to let these companies undertake their due diligence and

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Speaker 14: then we'll go from there. But I think it's really

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Speaker 14: telling us that it's the time we may see more

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Speaker 14: of this version acquisition activity. It's the right time to

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Speaker 14: ACQUI bolt on businesses for some businesses. So we may

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Speaker 14: said it more of.

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Speaker 3: Than all right, Shane, thanks so much for that. Great

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Speaker 3: to have you on. Shane Solid Harbor asset management with

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Speaker 3: us tonight. Just go on. Twenty two minutes after six, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: I love how clear and delect and direct Nikola Willis

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Speaker 3: was definitely prime Minister materials is this text and under,

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: says Ryan Nicholas, fiddling at the margins? Can we return

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 3: to Helen Clark levels of bureaucracy? At least? Never thought

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Speaker 3: I'd say that in a sentence, Ryan, Do you ever

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Speaker 3: praise Nikola Willis? She's on top of her finance portfolio,

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01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 3: intelligent and positive in a tough situation that in coombetant

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Speaker 3: predecessor has left her regards Peter, Peter, I don't think

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Speaker 3: she needs me praising her. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: I mean, one, it's not my job, but I too,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think she needs it. Redly. I agree,

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 3: she's very confident. I don't think she needs anyone blowing anything.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes after six, News talks EP.

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Speaker 2: Everything from SMS to the big corporates.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Clare's Insurance and Investments,

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Speaker 1: Grew your wealth, Protect you U news dogs Envy.

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Speaker 3: Something strange happened in Wellington last night. This is in Mirama,

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Speaker 3: which is out by the airport for those who know

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01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 3: the area. Twenty five after six Darlington Road and Miramar.

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01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 3: Police were called there because there was a guy in

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01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 3: his house wakes up and there's an intruder. It starts

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01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: fighting him anyway, homeowner gets hurt in the process. Guy

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01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 3: intruder runs out onto the road, but you know, police

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01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 3: turn up. This guy's taken off and then police get

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01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 3: the dogs involved, search for the guy, lose the sense.

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01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: Intruder goes missing. Half an hour later they find a

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Speaker 3: thirty minutes later find a person unconscious on the road

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Speaker 3: a different road in a critical condition. They don't know

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Speaker 3: if these two incidents are linked, or what the story

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Speaker 3: might have been, how one might have affected the other,

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01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 3: whether they are one and the same, but they want

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Speaker 3: your help to figure it out. This is police in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: This is around Darlington Road in Miramar. If you do

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Speaker 3: know what happened there last night, then do get in

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Speaker 3: touch with police. They'd like to hear from you in

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Speaker 3: twenty six after six rich so much more to get

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Speaker 3: to the after six thirty, after the news, we're going

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Speaker 3: to deal with this insulation issue because a couple of

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Speaker 3: months ago there was this, Oh, the government's changed the regulations.

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Speaker 3: They're making us stuff too many pink bats into our walls,

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Speaker 3: and our homes are overheating and you know now my

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01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 3: children can't breathe at night. Well apparently it's not and

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01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: this is according to one group. So I want to

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Speaker 3: make that clear. But we'll have the group on. It's

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Speaker 3: not so much the insulation that's the problem. In fact,

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01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: it's not the insulation that's the problem. It's the design

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01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 3: of the homes. But the question then becomes, well, if

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Speaker 3: the homes were the same design but with less insulation,

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01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 3: we do you still have the problems, you see? So anyway,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to the authors of this report after news

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Speaker 3: and still beat.

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Speaker 2: You for again.

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Speaker 12: Ever after all the zuon.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

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01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: your business hour with Ryan Rich and Mayre's insurance and investments,

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: grow your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 3: News Talks, ed b twenty five evolvenscious was love corgeous

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Speaker 3: was twenty five way from seven on News Talk SETB.

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Speaker 3: Lots of your text will get to them in a second,

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Speaker 3: just very quickly. This is one on housing, Ryan, I

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Speaker 3: have a fifties house in the White Cuts own In

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01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 3: the winter, it's fine without insulation in the ceiling and

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Speaker 3: the walls. The secret is in the design of the house. Apparently, Well,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to hear who designed your house, what sort

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Speaker 3: of design it is we're working with here nineteen nineteen

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Speaker 3: the numbers text. A study from the Building Research Association

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Speaker 3: is found that indoor summer temperatures have gone up six

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Speaker 3: to ten percent in the last twenty years. That's inside

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01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 3: during summer tempts up six to twenty It's two ten

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Speaker 3: percent in the last twenty years, and the new insulation

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Speaker 3: standards that came in force in twenty twenty three aren't

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Speaker 3: to blame for this. The study found that homes of

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Speaker 3: all ages are overheating. Doctor Chris Listen is a Building

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Speaker 3: Research Association General manager of Research. Welcome to the show, Chris, Hi, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: how are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 25: Good?

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Speaker 3: Thank you. First of all, I asked Laura, who's our

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01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 3: producer here? I wanted to find out whether you've got

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Speaker 3: any skin in the game. Here are you? You know

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01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 3: you've got shares and insulation companies anything like this, But

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01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: you know you're quite independent. I've found out, Yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: completely independent.

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Speaker 18: I am Brains is all about providing some ex independent

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 18: advice into the system. So that's what we're about.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant. Okay, So two things. One, it's getting hotter inside.

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Speaker 3: What's the temperature? I mean, how hot are we talking.

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Speaker 2: In some.

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Speaker 18: Some people are saying that somewhere between twenty five and

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01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 18: thirty degrees and that's for some people that feels really hot.

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Speaker 18: And I think one of the really interesting things from

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Speaker 18: the study shows that Wellingtonians are likely to say it's

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Speaker 18: two women they're homes despite them actually being colder than

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01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 18: the people in Auckland who are saying it's quite comfortable.

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Speaker 18: So it's really about perception about what people are actually

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01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 18: feeling like they're in their homes.

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Speaker 3: What do people feel like is a good temperature?

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Speaker 18: Again, that really comes down to personal preference. I'm in Wellington.

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Speaker 18: I think if my home was twenty five degrees, I'd

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Speaker 18: feel it's pretty warm. But you know that would be

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Speaker 18: quite different to someone else than from Auckland or from

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Speaker 18: christ Church but I think at the end of the day,

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Speaker 18: there's actually no agreed definition of when it's too hot.

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Speaker 18: The World Health Organization see something between over forty degrees

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01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 18: is probably not good, which is probably right. It's not

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Speaker 18: actually a real measure of saying when it's when hot

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01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 18: is too hot.

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Speaker 3: Now, one of the things you looked at was the

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Speaker 3: new insulation standards that came into force, and three you've

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Speaker 3: said that they're not to blame for our houses getting warmer.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 18: There's two parts of the Actually. First of all, none

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Speaker 18: of the houses in the survey actually had that new

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Speaker 18: insulation levels in them, so we can certainly say that

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Speaker 18: didn't make any difference. But I think the other thing

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Speaker 18: that we have shown in this work of insulation also

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Speaker 18: keeps the heat out, so no one is it keeping

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Speaker 18: you warm in winter, which is a really great thing,

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Speaker 18: but also keeps the heat out in summer. I think

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Speaker 18: what we're really seeing is that homes are really complex,

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01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 18: complex constructions. There's a lot that you need to think about.

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01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 18: There's insulation, there's the amount of windows you've got, how

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Speaker 18: much sun's coming in, how much shade you haven't haven't

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Speaker 18: got they facing north or south. It's really complex, and

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Speaker 18: that's what we're really trying to trying to get across

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Speaker 18: to everybody really right. They're to design things right and

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01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 18: to build them properly. They need to actually if you're living,

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Speaker 18: then you need to open the window and ventilate them.

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Speaker 3: So none of the homes you looked at actually had

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Speaker 3: the new standard of insulation.

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Speaker 18: So that's correct.

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Speaker 3: So therefore you can say, well, they're still getting hot,

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01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 3: but how do you know that they wouldn't have gotten

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01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: even hotter had they had that level.

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Speaker 18: Well, again, it comes back to that complex relationship between

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01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 18: everything that's in the in the house. Is that there's

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Speaker 18: a lot there's a lot of people who don't have

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Speaker 18: any shaving at all, coming into really large open windows

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Speaker 18: and onto concrete flour. So insulation is one part of it,

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01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 18: but it's not that it's not the only thing that's

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Speaker 18: contributing to things getting warmer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is there anything you want changed, you know, whether

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01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: it's to do with insulation or anything else with the

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01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 3: building code, anything you want change to cool our houses down?

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Speaker 18: I think that the building code has always been updated

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01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 18: and people are always thinking about That's not our job.

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01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 18: We provide advice to the government that does do that.

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Speaker 18: But at the end of the day, people need to

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Speaker 18: think again, it's the whole the whole building code, the

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01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 18: whole system is holistic. Things are complex. Change one thing

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Speaker 18: and something else will change. You need to consider that

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Speaker 18: in the whole process of designing and building your homes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, does everyone get will we all need air conditioning

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Speaker 3: at some point? And if so, when do you think

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Speaker 3: that might be.

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Speaker 18: I don't know about that. I think there's always some

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Speaker 18: way to operate your home better. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 18: be with air conditioning. You could INTELLCT properly. You can

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Speaker 18: close the windows that you know, close your blinds at

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Speaker 18: the right time. You can put some shaving, plant a

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Speaker 18: big tree outside your window. There's lots of ways to

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Speaker 18: cool things down when you actually need to put a

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Speaker 18: calling pump and the air conditioning and I don't know

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Speaker 18: that can be very gay, very much for people how

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Speaker 18: they feel that they're perception of living in their homers.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Chris, thank you for that. Appreciate your time. Welcome

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Speaker 3: doctor Chris Litton, Building Research Association, General manager of Research.

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Speaker 3: Very independent man, it is nineteen minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: You're on news talk said back in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the business hour and mass insurance

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Speaker 1: and investments, grew your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 2: News talks 'b You've been.

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Speaker 3: Planning away from seven on news talks 'b Ryan, do

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Speaker 3: you think having much more We've just been discussing insulation

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01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 3: and what makes a house too hot? Temperatures up six

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Speaker 3: to ten percent over twenty years, Brian. Do you think

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Speaker 3: that's in summer? Do you think having too much technology, computers,

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Speaker 3: et cetera in our home contribute to the heating. I

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Speaker 3: know my son's room is much hotter than the rest

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Speaker 3: of our house, says Karen. I think you're probably onto something, Karen.

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Speaker 3: I you know, if you think about your phone, when

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01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: you hold your phone in your hand and you're lying

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01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 3: in bed at night, which you shouldn't be doing, but

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Speaker 3: it is warmer, it is hotter. So I would say

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Speaker 3: that stands to reason, Karen.

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Speaker 21: And if we look at so our work building, right,

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Speaker 21: and if between a studio I'm sitting in the studio

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Speaker 21: you're sitting in, if you think about the amount of

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Speaker 21: hot air that's produced in these two studios cost the

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Speaker 21: course of the day.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's probably particularly in the morning circus six

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Speaker 3: to nine am. Glass. Some of my friends have new

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Speaker 3: houses with high glass walls, and bugger Mese has been

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01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 3: they are hot in the summer. I mean that stands

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Speaker 3: to reason too. Some comes straight through, doesn't it, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Not many new houses, says Carolyn, have eaves on them.

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01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 3: The sun just beams right and all good points, all

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Speaker 3: well made. Quarter to seven, Ryan Bridge Kevin Gray are

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent with us given good evening. Hi, that now

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Speaker 3: tell us about this nightclub fire in North Macedonia. That

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Speaker 3: many people have died.

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Speaker 26: Ryan, it's a terrible, terrible incident and at least fifty

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Speaker 26: nine have died, Eighteen people are in hospital critical and

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Speaker 26: many others were left injured. It was thought that nearly

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Speaker 26: five hundred people gathered for a concert by a group

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Speaker 26: called DNK. They're a popular hip hop dura in the country,

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Speaker 26: and during this fire in the North Macedonian club, which

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Speaker 26: was roughly a couple of one hundred kilometers east of

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Speaker 26: the capitol, they set off some pyrotechnics during the concert.

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Speaker 26: The pyrotechnics produced sparks, One of them hit the ceiling

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Speaker 26: and it turned out the ceiling was made of a

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Speaker 26: highly flammable substance and it spread really really quickly and

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Speaker 26: many of those crushed trying to get out, And it

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Speaker 26: now appears that we've had up to fifteen people detained overnight.

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Speaker 26: And this is all about the fact that there are

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Speaker 26: some suspicions the venue did not have a legal license

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Speaker 26: to operate, that it only had one sort of exit

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Speaker 26: for people to get out of. The venue's back door

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Speaker 26: was locked and could not be used. It was described

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Speaker 26: as an improvised nightclub, having previously been a carpet warehouse.

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Speaker 26: So lots of things now being revealed about, quite simply

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Speaker 26: the lack of facilities that are being alleged at this

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Speaker 26: place and the lack of safety standards that were in place,

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Speaker 26: and that's led to huge question marks now for the

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Speaker 26: government about how many of these entertainment and areas in

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Speaker 26: North Macedonia are being used that simply aren't suitable for

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Speaker 26: large gathering. So questions being asked, arrests being made, and

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Speaker 26: plenty of people grieving the loss of their loved ones. Incidently,

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Speaker 26: the age range of those who died is fourteen to

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Speaker 26: twenty four.

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Speaker 3: That's terrible, Kevin, that's really terrible. Thank you for updating

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Speaker 3: us on that. Let's go to the UK some asylum seekers,

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Speaker 3: in fact, tens of thousands of them, they've had their

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Speaker 3: initial claims rejected, but now they're going back for more.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 26: And the people who have had their asylum claims refused

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Speaker 26: are appealing. And it's the number of appealance or appllance

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Speaker 26: I guess who are those that we're talking about, And

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01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 26: it's gone to forty two thousand, with almost forty thousand

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Speaker 26: housed in hotels waiting, and of course that hotel bill

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01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 26: is massive, and people that aren't able to get a

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Speaker 26: home or on a waiting list for a home are

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Speaker 26: far as you can understand that this is happening. The

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Speaker 26: Refugee Council says the number now is a fivefold increase

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Speaker 26: in the last two years, and they say the government

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Speaker 26: simply risks moving the asylum crisis from one part of

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Speaker 26: the system to another. In other words, this government has

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Speaker 26: pledged to hear the cases sooner and then determine whether

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Speaker 26: somebody can stay and then repatriate them if they can't.

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Speaker 26: But what's happening is they aren't quickening up the system

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Speaker 26: for those appeal hearings. So we're stuck in this system

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Speaker 26: where millions of pounds a day is being spent. It

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Speaker 26: was estimated incidentally, the cost of hotels could be roughly

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Speaker 26: three and a half billion New Zealand dollars this year

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Speaker 26: for housing assylum seekers. And as you can imagine, that

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Speaker 26: is a bill at the moment where many people are

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Speaker 26: struggling to put food on the table and heat their homes.

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Speaker 3: That is not good figure, Absolutely not. Now the PTS

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Speaker 3: Harry business that all of US files, as immigration files,

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Speaker 3: are we going to get to have a little peak of.

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Speaker 26: The well, we're going to have a look I think

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01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 26: at redacted versions. So all this relates to the fact

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Speaker 26: that in America, if you apply for citizenship or for

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Speaker 26: basically living there, you have to answer a series of

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Speaker 26: questions and some of them relate to drug taking and

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Speaker 26: in the past people have been barred from entering if

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Speaker 26: they've taken drugs. Well, in his book Spare, Prince Harry

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01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 26: said that he quote, cocaine didn't do anything for me.

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Speaker 26: Marijuana is different.

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Speaker 15: That actually really did help me.

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Speaker 26: So a group which is a conservative US think tank

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Speaker 26: called the Heritage Foundation said that they thought this should

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Speaker 26: mean if it's true in the book that he was

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01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 26: disqualified from obtaining a US visa, and they have won

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Speaker 26: the latest round in ordering the release of the application form.

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Speaker 26: But as I said, I think what we see is

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Speaker 26: quite heavily redacted, that this could be bad news for

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01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 26: Prince Harry. In the past, various judges said no, it's

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01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 26: of no public interest at all, so we're not going

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01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 26: to release it. But finally they found a judge that said, yes, actually,

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01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 26: this is important and we do need it to be

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01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 26: a level playing field for those that come to live

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Speaker 26: in this country. And so although President Trump ruled out

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01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 26: deporting Harry from the US back in February, he actually

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01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 26: said to the New York Post, I'll leave Malone. He's

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01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 26: got enough problems with his wife. She's terrible. We will

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Speaker 26: wait to see what happens next.

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Speaker 3: Goodness name. One must be careful when speaking one's truth.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Kevin Kevin Gray. Yeah, UK correspondent.

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Speaker 3: It's just gone ten minutes away from seven here on

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Speaker 3: lin Ryan Bridge. Now I'm loving these ticks about the Eves.

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Speaker 3: This is on your house because he's sort of like

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01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 3: a pigd cat for your house, aren't they? They keep

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01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 3: your your house cool, and they keep your house dry.

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01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 3: You can open your doors and windows if you've got

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Speaker 3: an eve hanging over the side of it, Ryan, the

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01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 3: biggest problem with new builds is they don't have eves anymore.

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01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 3: The eaves provide shading in the summer months, which keeps

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01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 3: the house cooler. Developers got rid of the e's to

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01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 3: have a bigger footprint, to make the houses bigger, at

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Speaker 3: the cost of the occupants comforts. As Mike, I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: because if does that make it non permeable ground, because

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Speaker 3: you know, a certain percentage of your site must be

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01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 3: non permeable or permeable or whatever. So presumably an eve

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Speaker 3: would count as just house. Ryan. If the relatively new

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Speaker 3: houses the glass will be triple or at least double glazed,

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01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 3: shouldn't be too hot in the sun. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I still find it quite hot next to a window.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you. And it's a new window too.

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Speaker 3: Nine minutes away from seven here on Newstalks MB it's

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Speaker 3: the heather too.

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Speaker 1: See Allen dry full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB seven minutes away from seven and an interesting

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01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 3: number I came across my desk today, and this is

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01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 3: to do with the economy, and everybody's worried about Donald

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01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Trump and what might happen over there. Ye, but there's

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01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: the stocks. The stock exchange obviously taken a massive hit

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01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 3: over the last couple of months, taken absolute hammering the

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01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 3: S and P five hundred and correction territory. Everyone's sort

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01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 3: of freaking out about what the implications of the terriffs

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01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 3: might be. So it's been hitting the value of these businesses,

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01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 3: which is the value of people's you know, savings, the

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01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 3: value of their retirement funds, all those sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: So the number that's interesting is how much the American

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01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 3: economy is reliant on wealthy people spending. So rich people

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01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 3: spending actually turns out quite important for the American economy

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01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 3: and has been over particularly over the last period during COVID.

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01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 3: So the top ten percent of American earners now account

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01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 3: for roughly half of all spending. I'll just say that again.

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01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 3: The top ten percent of American earners now account for

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01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 3: roughly half of all spending. That number is up from

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01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 3: thirty five percent three decades ago. And of them, thirty

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01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 3: two percent of their wealth are in stocks. So if

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01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 3: you think about the wealth of the wealthy and how

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01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 3: much of that is tied up in the stock market,

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01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 3: and then you look at what's happening to the stock

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01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 3: market and you see that they might start to get jittery,

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01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 3: they might start to pull back on their spending, and

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01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,919
Speaker 3: that has a wider flow on effect into the real economy.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it a bit like us with housing. I suppose

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Speaker 3: news Talk ZIDB five away from seven for your Monday night.

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Speaker 3: What are we going out to tonight?

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Speaker 21: And Zombie by the Cranberries, Ryan, I had to be

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01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 21: something irish today. Happy Saint Patrick's Day to you. I

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01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 21: know the students in Dunedan are all getting into it already,

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01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 21: so there's no reason we and the listeners can't get

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Speaker 21: into it as well. ZIDBY does not endorse burning any couches,

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Speaker 21: and certainly not if it breeches the local fire regulations.

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Speaker 3: Where you are, very good point to make and thank you,

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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 25: It's tags over causes signs. We must be staggain.

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Speaker 23: It's the same, oh ten since nineteen sixteen, any yard,

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Speaker 23: any yardhead, there's still fighting.

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Speaker 3: With thircake and.

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Speaker 2: Their bombs and their bombs.

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Speaker 3: And they're gone.

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Speaker 27: Ay A yard the diet, any eye yard beyond.

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Speaker 1: For more from Hither Dupless Selan Drive, listen live to

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