1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:16,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks ADB. The only place for the big names, 3 00:00:16,787 --> 00:00:22,747 Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations. 4 00:00:23,467 --> 00:00:27,307 Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport on your home of Sport 5 00:00:27,867 --> 00:00:28,787 Speaker 1: News Talks. 6 00:00:28,547 --> 00:00:28,747 Speaker 2: Ed B. 7 00:00:30,667 --> 00:00:34,187 Speaker 3: Afternoon and welcome Elliot Smith and for Jason Pine this 8 00:00:34,307 --> 00:00:37,547 Speaker 3: weekend boll deserved Weekend off four Piney twenty fifth of 9 00:00:37,547 --> 00:00:42,187 Speaker 3: October twenty twenty five, Heavy Birthday, Dpak Patel, Happy birthday 10 00:00:42,867 --> 00:00:46,387 Speaker 3: Xander Shoflet as well. And it was ten years to 11 00:00:46,427 --> 00:00:50,307 Speaker 3: the day that the Wallabies beat Argentina at Twickenham to 12 00:00:50,387 --> 00:00:54,347 Speaker 3: set up the All Blacks and Australia World Cup Final, 13 00:00:55,907 --> 00:00:58,547 Speaker 3: the All Blacks having beaten South Africa in that thriller 14 00:00:58,667 --> 00:01:03,147 Speaker 3: the day prior. Welcome inn. If you're out about this 15 00:01:03,267 --> 00:01:05,627 Speaker 3: long weekends or at the batch wherever you might be 16 00:01:05,667 --> 00:01:08,027 Speaker 3: grateful you speak to get with us for the next 17 00:01:08,067 --> 00:01:12,787 Speaker 3: three hours. Loads to get stuck into this afternoon. Fascinated 18 00:01:12,827 --> 00:01:16,187 Speaker 3: by this Announcements earlier in the week around a charter 19 00:01:16,547 --> 00:01:21,027 Speaker 3: school specializing in sports. This is the year elevens to 20 00:01:21,107 --> 00:01:25,107 Speaker 3: year thirteen's based out at the nzed cis in Wellington, 21 00:01:25,147 --> 00:01:27,787 Speaker 3: will be in there a few times. Great facility, but 22 00:01:27,987 --> 00:01:29,987 Speaker 3: is this the right move for kids and what do 23 00:01:30,027 --> 00:01:32,667 Speaker 3: they need to get right in terms of the education 24 00:01:32,867 --> 00:01:37,947 Speaker 3: so they're not leaving as basically sports robots at the 25 00:01:38,067 --> 00:01:41,387 Speaker 3: ends of year thirteen. Gilbert and Oke, former All Blacks 26 00:01:41,747 --> 00:01:45,107 Speaker 3: leadership manager, mental skills coach, work with plenty of teams 27 00:01:45,387 --> 00:01:48,387 Speaker 3: in different sports around the globe. New South Wales origin 28 00:01:48,467 --> 00:01:52,547 Speaker 3: Black Cats, England Cricket currently CHELSEAFC. He's got a book 29 00:01:52,547 --> 00:01:54,827 Speaker 3: out at the moment. He's also started out as a 30 00:01:54,907 --> 00:01:58,747 Speaker 3: high school teacher, so he's got a unique perspective on this. 31 00:01:58,907 --> 00:02:01,427 Speaker 3: How do we get these kids in the right mind 32 00:02:01,467 --> 00:02:06,227 Speaker 3: frame to become professional sports people while also still acknowledging 33 00:02:06,427 --> 00:02:09,547 Speaker 3: that they are children. Is this the right step for 34 00:02:09,627 --> 00:02:13,667 Speaker 3: kids and families looking at a life in high performance sport? 35 00:02:13,827 --> 00:02:16,307 Speaker 3: Is this the right step for New Zealand? Gilbert and 36 00:02:16,307 --> 00:02:18,867 Speaker 3: Oku standing by to join us in a few moments time. 37 00:02:19,187 --> 00:02:22,347 Speaker 3: The MPC Final is our focus. After one will take 38 00:02:22,387 --> 00:02:26,587 Speaker 3: you inside both camps, Canterbury and Otago. This is going 39 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:31,067 Speaker 3: to be a wonderful occasion this afternoon. Fires from both 40 00:02:31,107 --> 00:02:33,227 Speaker 3: sides to join us as we count down to kickoff 41 00:02:33,227 --> 00:02:36,147 Speaker 3: at four o'clock on Gold Sport and IR Radio. Our 42 00:02:36,147 --> 00:02:38,747 Speaker 3: match commentator Nick Beuley to join the program as well 43 00:02:38,787 --> 00:02:41,107 Speaker 3: to give us a sense of the occasion as we 44 00:02:41,187 --> 00:02:44,867 Speaker 3: count down to kick off, Liam Lawson's future I could 45 00:02:44,907 --> 00:02:46,827 Speaker 3: be decided in the next forty eight hours or at 46 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:49,627 Speaker 3: least go a long way to deciding. It will take 47 00:02:49,667 --> 00:02:52,627 Speaker 3: you to Mexico, said again. Ask what exactly will go 48 00:02:52,707 --> 00:02:56,227 Speaker 3: in to this decision by Red Bulls Racing Bulls as 49 00:02:56,227 --> 00:02:58,707 Speaker 3: to how they allocate their seats for next year and 50 00:02:58,907 --> 00:03:02,347 Speaker 3: what are Liam Lawson's chances of being on the F 51 00:03:02,427 --> 00:03:05,907 Speaker 3: one grid next year. AUCKLANDFC have their first home game 52 00:03:05,947 --> 00:03:09,747 Speaker 3: this afternoon as well. Mount Smart will be pumping once 53 00:03:09,867 --> 00:03:12,427 Speaker 3: again a sporting chance as well with the tab your 54 00:03:12,507 --> 00:03:15,027 Speaker 3: chance to win a one hundred and fifty dollar bet. 55 00:03:15,187 --> 00:03:18,027 Speaker 3: During this afternoon show will keep a close watch on 56 00:03:18,147 --> 00:03:20,547 Speaker 3: all the sport as well. The domestic cricket Ford Trophy 57 00:03:20,587 --> 00:03:25,707 Speaker 3: season underway today game one as well of the World Series, 58 00:03:26,147 --> 00:03:29,627 Speaker 3: the Toronto Blue Jays facing the La Dodger's first pitch 59 00:03:29,747 --> 00:03:32,467 Speaker 3: just after one. There is plenty to look at this 60 00:03:32,547 --> 00:03:36,307 Speaker 3: afternoon here on News Talk ZBB, but at ten after 61 00:03:36,387 --> 00:03:37,667 Speaker 3: midday let's get into. 62 00:03:37,507 --> 00:03:41,867 Speaker 1: It, analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world. 63 00:03:42,067 --> 00:03:47,387 Speaker 1: Weekend Sports Call eighty News Talk ZBB well. 64 00:03:47,307 --> 00:03:50,347 Speaker 3: An announcement this week that the first charter sports called 65 00:03:50,427 --> 00:03:53,907 Speaker 3: New Zealand Performance Academy ALTA, or as it will be known, 66 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,827 Speaker 3: will open in term one next year at the New 67 00:03:56,907 --> 00:04:02,067 Speaker 3: Zealand Campus of Innovation and Sports in Upper Hot ended CIEs. 68 00:04:02,067 --> 00:04:05,227 Speaker 3: This is year eleven's to year thirteen, so fifth form 69 00:04:05,307 --> 00:04:08,947 Speaker 3: through to seventh four in the old speak. So kids 70 00:04:08,947 --> 00:04:12,227 Speaker 3: would do perhaps the first couple of years away from 71 00:04:12,427 --> 00:04:14,507 Speaker 3: this campus and then move on to this campus. It's 72 00:04:14,507 --> 00:04:19,067 Speaker 3: going to focus on football and rugby union initially, other 73 00:04:19,107 --> 00:04:22,907 Speaker 3: sports expected to follow. It's independent of the Wellington Phoenix 74 00:04:22,947 --> 00:04:26,067 Speaker 3: who call it home. Their general manager David Dome, is 75 00:04:26,067 --> 00:04:29,067 Speaker 3: on the board of the school. Is it possible to 76 00:04:29,147 --> 00:04:32,987 Speaker 3: thrive both academically and in sport? Do you have to 77 00:04:33,107 --> 00:04:36,427 Speaker 3: choose one? And how will this prepare the next generation 78 00:04:36,747 --> 00:04:41,947 Speaker 3: of sports people. Gilbertoka, former All Blacks mental skills coach. 79 00:04:41,987 --> 00:04:45,827 Speaker 3: Among other teams, he's worked with England Cricket, the Black Caps, Chelsea. 80 00:04:45,947 --> 00:04:49,467 Speaker 3: He knows all about what it takes for high performance 81 00:04:49,667 --> 00:04:52,987 Speaker 3: athletes to succeed and he was also a former high 82 00:04:53,067 --> 00:04:57,027 Speaker 3: school teacher, so who better to talk to on this topic. 83 00:04:57,227 --> 00:05:00,467 Speaker 3: It's great to welcome Gilbert and Oka to Weekend Sport. Gilbert, 84 00:05:00,507 --> 00:05:01,707 Speaker 3: thanks so much for joining us. 85 00:05:01,987 --> 00:05:05,587 Speaker 4: Pere Elliott, nice to be on the show with you. 86 00:05:05,627 --> 00:05:06,467 Speaker 4: Thanks very much. 87 00:05:06,787 --> 00:05:12,107 Speaker 3: What do you make of this charter school's sports proposal 88 00:05:12,187 --> 00:05:14,587 Speaker 3: that is going to come into being from two to 89 00:05:14,707 --> 00:05:17,707 Speaker 3: one twenty twenty six at the nsed CIS and Wellington. 90 00:05:17,707 --> 00:05:19,387 Speaker 3: Are you in favor of the idea? 91 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:25,827 Speaker 4: Oh? Look, I I think any initiative that you know, 92 00:05:26,107 --> 00:05:29,787 Speaker 4: generally gives young people a better chance to grow, to 93 00:05:29,947 --> 00:05:37,147 Speaker 4: learn and perform deserves attention. And I'm more of the 94 00:05:37,347 --> 00:05:41,547 Speaker 4: elk of embracing the opportunity that it gives to our 95 00:05:41,667 --> 00:05:46,707 Speaker 4: people who make that choice to go down that avenue, 96 00:05:48,027 --> 00:05:51,427 Speaker 4: to you know, to enable them to you know, to 97 00:05:52,187 --> 00:05:55,587 Speaker 4: have a chance at achieving and putting the energy into 98 00:05:55,587 --> 00:05:56,827 Speaker 4: their sport of their choice. 99 00:05:57,067 --> 00:05:59,667 Speaker 3: You've been a teacher, You've also worked in high performance 100 00:05:59,667 --> 00:06:03,267 Speaker 3: sport environments, So what are the fundamentals that they need 101 00:06:03,307 --> 00:06:05,547 Speaker 3: to get right for these kids? 102 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,507 Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I thought about that. My role at Hilmot 103 00:06:09,627 --> 00:06:13,587 Speaker 4: High School and you know, I aim to develop high 104 00:06:13,587 --> 00:06:17,787 Speaker 4: performing elite athletes in the sport of volleyball, and at 105 00:06:17,827 --> 00:06:21,827 Speaker 4: times the traditional model doesn't fit, you know, it doesn't 106 00:06:21,827 --> 00:06:25,667 Speaker 4: have the flexibility that allows individuals who at a certain 107 00:06:25,707 --> 00:06:29,347 Speaker 4: point in their life are getting their development through sport 108 00:06:29,907 --> 00:06:33,067 Speaker 4: to really encompass that and a lot of the traditional 109 00:06:33,147 --> 00:06:37,587 Speaker 4: modes are forced upon them. I've learned in my work 110 00:06:37,787 --> 00:06:41,187 Speaker 4: that it's not a one size fits all policy. It's 111 00:06:41,227 --> 00:06:44,547 Speaker 4: a one size fits one And if we can build 112 00:06:44,547 --> 00:06:49,147 Speaker 4: a system around the individual learner or performer and allow 113 00:06:49,187 --> 00:06:52,827 Speaker 4: them to focus on their strengths and their ambitions, I 114 00:06:52,867 --> 00:06:55,867 Speaker 4: think we create an environment where they can grow and 115 00:06:55,947 --> 00:07:00,467 Speaker 4: achieve more than them being trapped inside a traditional model. 116 00:07:00,467 --> 00:07:03,427 Speaker 3: But is there a risk attached to this because these 117 00:07:03,427 --> 00:07:06,867 Speaker 3: are young kids still? You know, some kids starting year 118 00:07:06,867 --> 00:07:08,627 Speaker 3: rely even which is when the school starts, are only 119 00:07:08,667 --> 00:07:12,747 Speaker 3: going to be fourteen, and at that point in time 120 00:07:12,907 --> 00:07:15,787 Speaker 3: they may not have an idea. Everyone wants to be 121 00:07:15,947 --> 00:07:19,947 Speaker 3: the next Messy, the next Dan Carter, whatever it might be. 122 00:07:20,147 --> 00:07:23,067 Speaker 3: But is it a risk focusing on that soul track 123 00:07:23,267 --> 00:07:24,987 Speaker 3: at that age for these kids? 124 00:07:26,107 --> 00:07:28,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a realistic concern. Elliott. I think 125 00:07:29,107 --> 00:07:33,187 Speaker 4: and I've met in my experience as people who do 126 00:07:33,347 --> 00:07:38,827 Speaker 4: know and some are guided, you know, falsely by their 127 00:07:38,907 --> 00:07:41,187 Speaker 4: parents in a way who are trying to live a 128 00:07:41,267 --> 00:07:44,067 Speaker 4: dream that they have through their children. So you know, 129 00:07:44,147 --> 00:07:49,867 Speaker 4: sometimes are forced into a mode of operating. I think, 130 00:07:50,587 --> 00:07:52,947 Speaker 4: you know, and we sort of talk about the fact 131 00:07:52,947 --> 00:07:56,267 Speaker 4: that we want people to develop a wide base of 132 00:07:56,387 --> 00:08:00,827 Speaker 4: diverse skills when they're younger. I think the key for 133 00:08:00,907 --> 00:08:04,707 Speaker 4: this for me is, as with most things, it all 134 00:08:04,747 --> 00:08:07,267 Speaker 4: starts at the top. You know, the critit looking critical 135 00:08:07,427 --> 00:08:13,227 Speaker 4: ingredient is getting that board, that controlling authority right. And 136 00:08:13,307 --> 00:08:16,347 Speaker 4: I understand that's different because the charter school is not 137 00:08:16,427 --> 00:08:20,867 Speaker 4: answerable to the ministry. It's answerable to a different group 138 00:08:20,907 --> 00:08:24,427 Speaker 4: of people. So getting the makeup of the people inside 139 00:08:24,467 --> 00:08:28,787 Speaker 4: that group strong and ensuring that they have systems of 140 00:08:28,907 --> 00:08:33,107 Speaker 4: quality control across the border important. So if you get that, 141 00:08:34,267 --> 00:08:40,027 Speaker 4: I've never met a competent coach who's interested in the 142 00:08:40,067 --> 00:08:44,267 Speaker 4: development of an eighty person that doesn't promote holistic development. 143 00:08:44,427 --> 00:08:48,667 Speaker 4: So I'd imagine that, you know, they'd go board and 144 00:08:48,747 --> 00:08:52,027 Speaker 4: there'd be certain pit stops at a stage where a 145 00:08:52,107 --> 00:08:54,987 Speaker 4: look at are you doing? Is what you're doing right? 146 00:08:54,987 --> 00:08:57,667 Speaker 4: For you? Have we got the right scope? And they 147 00:08:57,747 --> 00:09:00,067 Speaker 4: asked questions and allow opportunities to pivot. 148 00:09:00,387 --> 00:09:03,387 Speaker 3: A lot of your work has been around leadership relationships, 149 00:09:03,427 --> 00:09:06,187 Speaker 3: the mental side of things in sport. How much can 150 00:09:06,227 --> 00:09:10,307 Speaker 3: you learn about that in those formative high school years. 151 00:09:10,387 --> 00:09:13,867 Speaker 4: Huge, You know, once you get a mindset, a growth mindset, 152 00:09:13,907 --> 00:09:18,587 Speaker 4: an opportunity mindset that you see things, you see, possibilities 153 00:09:18,587 --> 00:09:22,067 Speaker 4: are not barriers. And people are expected to have the 154 00:09:22,107 --> 00:09:27,907 Speaker 4: mental performance skill sets just because they participate in sport. 155 00:09:28,867 --> 00:09:32,907 Speaker 4: Once you understand that, they are a tool that you 156 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:36,027 Speaker 4: can learn and you can refine and you can develop, 157 00:09:36,867 --> 00:09:39,227 Speaker 4: just like you do the other skills. You know, we 158 00:09:39,267 --> 00:09:41,787 Speaker 4: do know that your skill sets don't work if your 159 00:09:41,787 --> 00:09:46,547 Speaker 4: mindset's not right. So why don't we spend time teaching children, 160 00:09:46,867 --> 00:09:51,107 Speaker 4: teaching individuals how to manage the emotions that a company 161 00:09:51,507 --> 00:09:55,267 Speaker 4: elite sporting environments. So I think it's a wonderful opportunity 162 00:09:55,347 --> 00:10:01,227 Speaker 4: to actually structure a program of development in this area 163 00:10:01,387 --> 00:10:04,787 Speaker 4: that's mostly left up to chance out there in the 164 00:10:04,787 --> 00:10:05,707 Speaker 4: traditional model. 165 00:10:05,867 --> 00:10:08,187 Speaker 3: How would they how would they balance or would you 166 00:10:08,547 --> 00:10:11,227 Speaker 3: foresee them balancing? I suppose the focus on sport and 167 00:10:11,427 --> 00:10:13,667 Speaker 3: that being the purpose of the school, but also I 168 00:10:13,667 --> 00:10:16,267 Speaker 3: guess trying to ground them in society and you know, 169 00:10:16,387 --> 00:10:18,347 Speaker 3: learning that the basics that you do need to learn 170 00:10:18,347 --> 00:10:19,067 Speaker 3: at high school. 171 00:10:19,747 --> 00:10:23,947 Speaker 4: Otherwise, Yeah, well, I think it's sort of you know, 172 00:10:23,987 --> 00:10:28,747 Speaker 4: they're not rivals. You know, education and those developments and 173 00:10:28,907 --> 00:10:33,147 Speaker 4: elite sport development don't compete. You know, in the right environment, 174 00:10:33,947 --> 00:10:37,147 Speaker 4: they can thrive side by side where you sharpened both 175 00:10:37,147 --> 00:10:41,027 Speaker 4: the mind and the body. And i'd imagine if you 176 00:10:41,107 --> 00:10:45,267 Speaker 4: have good providers and a good system and that allows 177 00:10:45,307 --> 00:10:48,707 Speaker 4: you to bring in good mentors and coaches and people 178 00:10:49,347 --> 00:10:53,027 Speaker 4: that have wise eyes as they develop people, that allows 179 00:10:53,147 --> 00:10:56,707 Speaker 4: education and elite performance to live side by side and 180 00:10:56,787 --> 00:11:00,427 Speaker 4: not in conflict. And you know, some of the best 181 00:11:00,547 --> 00:11:05,107 Speaker 4: lessons that people can get in their own personal development 182 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:10,987 Speaker 4: is from sport, you know, dealing with the disappointment, managing 183 00:11:11,587 --> 00:11:15,667 Speaker 4: losses of form, dealing with other things that come into 184 00:11:15,707 --> 00:11:21,307 Speaker 4: the struggle bucket. And sometimes just normal life doesn't give 185 00:11:21,307 --> 00:11:24,507 Speaker 4: you those tests, doesn't stretch you in a way that 186 00:11:24,667 --> 00:11:27,387 Speaker 4: forces you to find a way to manage your way 187 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:27,867 Speaker 4: through them. 188 00:11:28,307 --> 00:11:30,947 Speaker 3: What are the kind of things that you can't learn 189 00:11:30,987 --> 00:11:33,067 Speaker 3: at school that you've got to learn by doing, by 190 00:11:33,107 --> 00:11:36,067 Speaker 3: being in a high performance sport environment, by being out 191 00:11:36,107 --> 00:11:40,307 Speaker 3: in society, that maybe a school won't teach you, well. 192 00:11:40,187 --> 00:11:43,587 Speaker 4: I think you know the I understand that this charter 193 00:11:43,627 --> 00:11:46,347 Speaker 4: school is dealing with just two sports, I think rugby 194 00:11:46,347 --> 00:11:50,307 Speaker 4: and football. So automatically you're into a team environment, so 195 00:11:51,347 --> 00:11:53,827 Speaker 4: you're no longer the center of attention. You've got to 196 00:11:54,387 --> 00:11:57,867 Speaker 4: you've got to give to other people. You've got to 197 00:11:58,547 --> 00:12:01,267 Speaker 4: apply disciplines to the way in once you go about 198 00:12:01,307 --> 00:12:04,747 Speaker 4: doing things. So you've got to get up at certain times, 199 00:12:04,787 --> 00:12:07,227 Speaker 4: and you've got to commit to training in the dark. 200 00:12:07,267 --> 00:12:10,227 Speaker 4: You've got to do things that are not seen by 201 00:12:10,267 --> 00:12:16,187 Speaker 4: other people to enable people to achieve the things that 202 00:12:16,227 --> 00:12:20,387 Speaker 4: they want to actually achieve. So there's a whole host 203 00:12:20,547 --> 00:12:25,867 Speaker 4: of disciplines. I think that sport you can only get 204 00:12:25,867 --> 00:12:31,267 Speaker 4: through sport or some other professional activities, and you know, 205 00:12:31,947 --> 00:12:34,307 Speaker 4: you know, you need an environment that fosters that and 206 00:12:34,667 --> 00:12:37,547 Speaker 4: identifies the skill sets to help you navigate it. 207 00:12:37,787 --> 00:12:40,307 Speaker 3: Gilbert and Oka with us a couple of final questions. Gilbert, 208 00:12:40,347 --> 00:12:43,107 Speaker 3: so grateful for your time. What would the ideal students 209 00:12:43,747 --> 00:12:46,867 Speaker 3: look like when they graduate high school? This high school? 210 00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:47,907 Speaker 3: What would they look like to you? 211 00:12:49,747 --> 00:12:52,947 Speaker 4: I look, the thing I kind of like about where 212 00:12:52,987 --> 00:12:57,547 Speaker 4: this thing's headed is that you know, they'll select people 213 00:12:57,587 --> 00:13:01,747 Speaker 4: that have ambition and I think that's important. I'd like 214 00:13:01,827 --> 00:13:05,147 Speaker 4: to think that a system like this will spit out 215 00:13:05,187 --> 00:13:10,267 Speaker 4: an individual that's theoped competencies and capabilities in their chosen 216 00:13:10,387 --> 00:13:14,627 Speaker 4: field of endeavor. That they've learned to understand themselves a 217 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:17,947 Speaker 4: bit better, so how they are, how they deal with success, 218 00:13:17,987 --> 00:13:21,027 Speaker 4: how they deal with failure, how they deal with disappointment. 219 00:13:21,627 --> 00:13:24,187 Speaker 4: I'd like to think that they've developed aspects of their 220 00:13:24,267 --> 00:13:29,707 Speaker 4: own character. You know, any pathway to success that doesn't 221 00:13:29,747 --> 00:13:32,867 Speaker 4: involve in development of character is always hollowed to me. 222 00:13:33,587 --> 00:13:38,627 Speaker 4: And so this particular course in schooling needs to ensure 223 00:13:39,027 --> 00:13:41,787 Speaker 4: that that occurs. And then when they come out, they 224 00:13:41,867 --> 00:13:45,667 Speaker 4: have some opportunities to advance themselves, not only in sport, 225 00:13:45,747 --> 00:13:51,987 Speaker 4: but in other endeavors, because ultimately, sport tests you against 226 00:13:52,027 --> 00:13:54,027 Speaker 4: yourself and you find out a lot of things about 227 00:13:54,067 --> 00:13:56,627 Speaker 4: who you are, what you want, and where you want 228 00:13:56,627 --> 00:14:00,667 Speaker 4: to head. And I'd like to think people will come 229 00:14:00,707 --> 00:14:04,547 Speaker 4: out having grown in lots of different areas and being 230 00:14:04,587 --> 00:14:08,387 Speaker 4: able to pursue opportunities that they may not have seen beforehand. 231 00:14:08,587 --> 00:14:11,507 Speaker 3: So Gilbert and I guess, in summary, if you're a 232 00:14:11,627 --> 00:14:13,947 Speaker 3: parent that's got a young kid that's on the verge 233 00:14:13,947 --> 00:14:16,227 Speaker 3: of high school, you think going to that school, I 234 00:14:16,227 --> 00:14:18,707 Speaker 3: mean it would be a step in the right direction 235 00:14:18,947 --> 00:14:23,187 Speaker 3: for a young kid that's looking to follow a sporting career. 236 00:14:24,507 --> 00:14:28,107 Speaker 4: Look, I think many roads, one destination. You know, this 237 00:14:28,147 --> 00:14:32,507 Speaker 4: isn't the part. It's just another part, and it's another 238 00:14:32,587 --> 00:14:37,307 Speaker 4: revenue for people to choose as they look to develop 239 00:14:37,387 --> 00:14:42,187 Speaker 4: their careers. And it's a legitimate route on the athletes 240 00:14:42,267 --> 00:14:46,027 Speaker 4: map to high performance. And so I think it's you know, 241 00:14:46,147 --> 00:14:48,627 Speaker 4: if it is a path and it is available to 242 00:14:48,707 --> 00:14:52,667 Speaker 4: someone and it fits and this is it's a one 243 00:14:52,747 --> 00:14:57,067 Speaker 4: size fits one model again, then why not. You know, 244 00:14:57,587 --> 00:15:00,867 Speaker 4: people have just got to be careful that when they 245 00:15:00,907 --> 00:15:04,347 Speaker 4: hear the word charter that they don't allow an unconscious 246 00:15:04,387 --> 00:15:08,467 Speaker 4: bias of politics to invade what it actually is. You know, 247 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:11,747 Speaker 4: when I hear that, I look at this, I think possibility. 248 00:15:12,027 --> 00:15:15,547 Speaker 4: What's the possibility that I see to enhance my skill 249 00:15:15,587 --> 00:15:19,307 Speaker 4: sets to enable me to develop myself in a way 250 00:15:19,307 --> 00:15:22,507 Speaker 4: that gives me other opportunities as an athlete as I 251 00:15:22,587 --> 00:15:23,827 Speaker 4: venture out into the world. 252 00:15:24,347 --> 00:15:26,187 Speaker 3: Indeed, well, Gil, but it's going to be fascinating to 253 00:15:26,187 --> 00:15:28,587 Speaker 3: see how the school develops over the coming years and 254 00:15:28,587 --> 00:15:30,627 Speaker 3: what kind of students come out of it. Thank you 255 00:15:30,667 --> 00:15:32,627 Speaker 3: so much for your time on Newstalk ZB this afternoon. 256 00:15:32,707 --> 00:15:33,267 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 257 00:15:33,987 --> 00:15:36,307 Speaker 4: You're welcome earlier. Thanks very much, Thank. 258 00:15:36,147 --> 00:15:38,707 Speaker 3: You, Gilbert. Gilbert and Oka there who has worked with 259 00:15:38,867 --> 00:15:41,947 Speaker 3: any number of high performance sporting environments, the All Blacks, 260 00:15:41,987 --> 00:15:45,907 Speaker 3: black Caps, England Crickets, Chelsea Football Club, but also been 261 00:15:45,947 --> 00:15:48,227 Speaker 3: a high school teacher and I think offered a really 262 00:15:48,347 --> 00:15:51,067 Speaker 3: unique perspective there as to whether this is going to 263 00:15:51,107 --> 00:15:54,187 Speaker 3: be a good idea or not. I'm keen for your 264 00:15:54,267 --> 00:15:56,787 Speaker 3: views on this. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine 265 00:15:56,867 --> 00:16:00,827 Speaker 3: two ninety two for a text message parents out there, 266 00:16:00,867 --> 00:16:05,747 Speaker 3: would you consider sending your kids to the school term 267 00:16:05,867 --> 00:16:10,227 Speaker 3: one twenty six next year year elevens to thirteens. Now, 268 00:16:10,267 --> 00:16:11,907 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're picking up just year elevens 269 00:16:11,907 --> 00:16:14,467 Speaker 3: next year and taking them through the next couple of years. 270 00:16:14,467 --> 00:16:18,187 Speaker 3: But if you've got a budding young sports player that 271 00:16:18,347 --> 00:16:20,707 Speaker 3: is looking at rugby, looking at football, those are the 272 00:16:20,707 --> 00:16:23,867 Speaker 3: two sports they're looking at at the moment. Is this 273 00:16:23,987 --> 00:16:28,187 Speaker 3: something as apparent you'd be interested in. I have a 274 00:16:28,227 --> 00:16:32,667 Speaker 3: couple of reservations around it, and I guess the proof 275 00:16:32,707 --> 00:16:35,587 Speaker 3: will be in the pudding. I don't want us creating 276 00:16:36,827 --> 00:16:41,507 Speaker 3: robots essentially that go into sports environments. We know the 277 00:16:41,547 --> 00:16:44,147 Speaker 3: pathways now, and kids are plucked out of high school 278 00:16:44,187 --> 00:16:47,267 Speaker 3: anyway out of first fifteen. They're targeted and signed by 279 00:16:47,667 --> 00:16:50,587 Speaker 3: super rugby teams into their academies or NRAL clubs, and 280 00:16:50,587 --> 00:16:53,787 Speaker 3: we're talking the over ball there, and they don't get 281 00:16:53,787 --> 00:16:56,067 Speaker 3: any life experience, and that life experience is really hard 282 00:16:56,107 --> 00:16:58,507 Speaker 3: to come by. But I think you'd get more life 283 00:16:58,587 --> 00:17:02,507 Speaker 3: experience at a regular high school. There may be a 284 00:17:02,547 --> 00:17:06,227 Speaker 3: sports focused one oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine 285 00:17:06,227 --> 00:17:10,267 Speaker 3: two known two for a text message, Would you send 286 00:17:10,267 --> 00:17:13,387 Speaker 3: your kids there? If they're showing some promise as a 287 00:17:13,387 --> 00:17:15,787 Speaker 3: as I say, a rugby player or a footballer, is 288 00:17:15,787 --> 00:17:17,987 Speaker 3: this something that you might go? Actually, we're going to 289 00:17:18,107 --> 00:17:21,707 Speaker 3: leave the school at ar ten and head to this 290 00:17:21,787 --> 00:17:25,787 Speaker 3: charter sports school. Ian's called an Afternoonan. 291 00:17:27,107 --> 00:17:28,947 Speaker 5: Afternoon Earliot, how are you doing today? 292 00:17:29,027 --> 00:17:31,227 Speaker 3: I'm great? How are you good? 293 00:17:31,267 --> 00:17:34,067 Speaker 5: Thanks? I'm just on this charter school thing. I mean, 294 00:17:34,147 --> 00:17:37,147 Speaker 5: I'm actually all for it. I think that's a great idea, 295 00:17:38,707 --> 00:17:41,347 Speaker 5: but I'm just saying that you're producer. I think this 296 00:17:41,507 --> 00:17:43,587 Speaker 5: is going to go down the college system of the 297 00:17:43,707 --> 00:17:48,667 Speaker 5: United States. You know, how they have to have student 298 00:17:48,827 --> 00:17:54,107 Speaker 5: academic standards to actually play their sport. And I think 299 00:17:54,987 --> 00:18:01,627 Speaker 5: if this is to be excess or to come to 300 00:18:01,867 --> 00:18:05,427 Speaker 5: fruition for these students, they have to do that. 301 00:18:06,907 --> 00:18:10,067 Speaker 3: I think you're right that we can't have just the 302 00:18:10,387 --> 00:18:12,787 Speaker 3: focus on sport being the be all and end, or 303 00:18:12,787 --> 00:18:15,627 Speaker 3: there has to be some academic side to it that 304 00:18:15,707 --> 00:18:19,067 Speaker 3: they can guess focus on their sport, but they've still 305 00:18:19,067 --> 00:18:21,227 Speaker 3: got to do the basics that are going to ground 306 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,387 Speaker 3: them in life. If sport doesn't work out for. 307 00:18:23,347 --> 00:18:26,707 Speaker 5: Them, well that's that's the whole deal I'm giving it. 308 00:18:26,947 --> 00:18:30,267 Speaker 5: It's just the whole college system. And well you know 309 00:18:30,307 --> 00:18:33,427 Speaker 5: as well as I do, what that's all about. If 310 00:18:33,467 --> 00:18:37,867 Speaker 5: you don't make it in your academic studies, your sporting 311 00:18:39,107 --> 00:18:42,787 Speaker 5: career basically comes to an end. 312 00:18:43,347 --> 00:18:45,307 Speaker 3: That's right, and you'd hope that they give you them 313 00:18:45,307 --> 00:18:47,947 Speaker 3: the grounding. I think it ultimately it's a good thing 314 00:18:47,987 --> 00:18:50,947 Speaker 3: to set these kids up in a sporting career. But 315 00:18:51,227 --> 00:18:53,387 Speaker 3: as you and I know, and you know, a fraction 316 00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:56,267 Speaker 3: of the kids that play first fifteen at school actually 317 00:18:56,267 --> 00:18:58,707 Speaker 3: go on and play super rugby or first eleven football, 318 00:18:58,747 --> 00:19:01,067 Speaker 3: go on and actually play football to a level that 319 00:19:01,107 --> 00:19:02,107 Speaker 3: they can get paid for it. 320 00:19:02,947 --> 00:19:05,507 Speaker 5: That's true, and all good, you know, and all good 321 00:19:05,587 --> 00:19:09,387 Speaker 5: luck to them when I'm that, and I hope this 322 00:19:09,467 --> 00:19:12,107 Speaker 5: thing really really does work out. I think it's a 323 00:19:12,107 --> 00:19:19,107 Speaker 5: great concept, but the annoyed, humble opinion, the academic side 324 00:19:19,387 --> 00:19:22,107 Speaker 5: has to come through as well. In fact, I think 325 00:19:22,107 --> 00:19:23,227 Speaker 5: it has to shine more. 326 00:19:24,547 --> 00:19:28,347 Speaker 3: What should be a perhaps a reward. You know you'll hear, 327 00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:30,267 Speaker 3: but you know this is part of it. That we 328 00:19:30,347 --> 00:19:34,107 Speaker 3: expect high expectations and because you're here, we're going to 329 00:19:34,187 --> 00:19:38,027 Speaker 3: we need you to. I guess both sides. Be strong academically, 330 00:19:38,107 --> 00:19:39,467 Speaker 3: but be strong sporting as well. 331 00:19:40,147 --> 00:19:40,387 Speaker 4: Well. 332 00:19:40,387 --> 00:19:42,187 Speaker 5: Of course you don't. You just sit the nail on 333 00:19:42,227 --> 00:19:46,147 Speaker 5: the head before If by chance, as you just said, 334 00:19:47,107 --> 00:19:51,787 Speaker 5: there might be one and a hundred kids, be it netballers, 335 00:19:51,907 --> 00:19:55,627 Speaker 5: hockey players, or whatever the case may be, maybe one 336 00:19:55,627 --> 00:19:58,787 Speaker 5: out of one hundred will make it that elite level. 337 00:19:59,067 --> 00:20:03,947 Speaker 5: If that, and I'm only guessing those stats. And this 338 00:20:04,107 --> 00:20:07,427 Speaker 5: is why the academic side comes back to it, because 339 00:20:10,027 --> 00:20:12,707 Speaker 5: by a chance, you don't get to that elite level 340 00:20:12,747 --> 00:20:17,027 Speaker 5: of the sport that you're actually going for, you've got 341 00:20:17,107 --> 00:20:18,107 Speaker 5: something to fall back on. 342 00:20:18,667 --> 00:20:20,667 Speaker 3: I think that's really importantly, and as well that they 343 00:20:20,747 --> 00:20:22,947 Speaker 3: do have something to fall back on. You'd hate for 344 00:20:23,667 --> 00:20:27,467 Speaker 3: a promising kid to come out of the school and 345 00:20:27,507 --> 00:20:31,387 Speaker 3: then they do a serious leg injury, whatever it might be, 346 00:20:31,467 --> 00:20:34,147 Speaker 3: are told that they can't play again. You know, we've 347 00:20:34,147 --> 00:20:36,907 Speaker 3: all heard stories of players that could have been anything, 348 00:20:36,947 --> 00:20:39,147 Speaker 3: but then they get cut down by an injury and 349 00:20:39,147 --> 00:20:43,067 Speaker 3: they've just spent three years in a sporting environment that 350 00:20:43,227 --> 00:20:46,147 Speaker 3: is all they know. Is that going to set them 351 00:20:46,227 --> 00:20:50,147 Speaker 3: up to change the path of their life? O eight 352 00:20:50,147 --> 00:20:52,387 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two for 353 00:20:52,427 --> 00:20:55,267 Speaker 3: a text message. An interesting point of view there from Ian. 354 00:20:55,467 --> 00:20:59,187 Speaker 3: Let's go to bell evening after afternoon Bill, you got 355 00:20:59,227 --> 00:21:00,067 Speaker 3: a look. 356 00:21:00,107 --> 00:21:02,587 Speaker 6: I'm just in two minds about only turned on a 357 00:21:02,667 --> 00:21:07,667 Speaker 6: few months ago about this academy because it'll be it'll 358 00:21:07,707 --> 00:21:10,707 Speaker 6: be very good. And I used to be involved in 359 00:21:10,787 --> 00:21:13,467 Speaker 6: primary school cricket and rugby and that years ago very 360 00:21:13,507 --> 00:21:19,907 Speaker 6: good for catching those kids twelve a sitting or fourteen 361 00:21:20,267 --> 00:21:25,747 Speaker 6: who go nowhere when they leave primary school where the 362 00:21:25,787 --> 00:21:30,867 Speaker 6: clubs really look after, especially in Willington, these primary school kids. Now, 363 00:21:31,467 --> 00:21:33,627 Speaker 6: I've had so many guys that I thought would be 364 00:21:34,027 --> 00:21:38,627 Speaker 6: future All Blacks or whatever drift away because they didn't 365 00:21:38,787 --> 00:21:42,347 Speaker 6: go to the big schools, you know, you know, the 366 00:21:42,387 --> 00:21:44,787 Speaker 6: big single tech schools, et cetera. They may have gone 367 00:21:44,787 --> 00:21:48,787 Speaker 6: to the co edes where sport isn't sort of predominant, 368 00:21:49,067 --> 00:21:53,547 Speaker 6: and it's very good for them, But what does he 369 00:21:53,667 --> 00:21:56,507 Speaker 6: get academy going to do is going to sort of 370 00:21:57,387 --> 00:22:00,907 Speaker 6: pillage the big schools for their players' house silver Stream 371 00:22:00,947 --> 00:22:03,027 Speaker 6: and Wellington College that are going to get on and 372 00:22:03,067 --> 00:22:06,507 Speaker 6: their things. Are their most promising players going to be 373 00:22:06,587 --> 00:22:11,107 Speaker 6: taken away to academies at fifteen or sixteen or whatever 374 00:22:11,547 --> 00:22:15,507 Speaker 6: you know age it is, and what damage it will do. Also, 375 00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:18,987 Speaker 6: the system of just concentrating on the sport that is, 376 00:22:19,227 --> 00:22:22,667 Speaker 6: et cetera, will not give a kid the balance they 377 00:22:22,707 --> 00:22:26,707 Speaker 6: would get at you know, one of the old traditional schools, 378 00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:32,667 Speaker 6: et cetera, that not just academical sport but other things, 379 00:22:32,747 --> 00:22:35,627 Speaker 6: et cetera, self discipline, all those sorts of things and 380 00:22:35,787 --> 00:22:38,227 Speaker 6: so on. So I'm actually in two minds at the moment. 381 00:22:38,627 --> 00:22:41,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a good point, Bill, because being 382 00:22:42,667 --> 00:22:46,107 Speaker 3: amongst peers at high school where yes, one kid's interested 383 00:22:46,107 --> 00:22:47,867 Speaker 3: in sport and sees that as a career, but another 384 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:50,667 Speaker 3: one might be wanted to be an astrophysicist or another 385 00:22:50,707 --> 00:22:53,787 Speaker 3: one's going to be an accountant or an economics economists, 386 00:22:53,787 --> 00:22:56,547 Speaker 3: and you rub off on each other. You learn about 387 00:22:56,547 --> 00:22:58,787 Speaker 3: different people at that stage of your life and while 388 00:22:58,787 --> 00:23:01,947 Speaker 3: you're still developing, rather than being on that full sport mindset. 389 00:23:02,867 --> 00:23:05,787 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. Well, look when I was at boarding 390 00:23:05,827 --> 00:23:10,027 Speaker 6: school years ago, etc. That you could get you could 391 00:23:10,067 --> 00:23:12,907 Speaker 6: have rugby practice three or four times a day because 392 00:23:12,947 --> 00:23:15,187 Speaker 6: you had three hundred boarders in the boarding house and 393 00:23:15,267 --> 00:23:18,027 Speaker 6: so on. And you know, first fifteen, second fifteens were 394 00:23:18,027 --> 00:23:21,147 Speaker 6: always playing themselves, you know, things to do, and they 395 00:23:21,187 --> 00:23:25,067 Speaker 6: had that advantage over non boarding schools. That's why so 396 00:23:25,147 --> 00:23:28,187 Speaker 6: many schools around the country, state schools have opened hostels 397 00:23:28,187 --> 00:23:30,347 Speaker 6: in recent years to get those kids who used to 398 00:23:30,427 --> 00:23:32,747 Speaker 6: go to the you know, the big old schools. But 399 00:23:33,627 --> 00:23:37,347 Speaker 6: I think that that balance is just so important, you know, 400 00:23:38,387 --> 00:23:41,027 Speaker 6: if mixing and talking with others outside of a group 401 00:23:41,107 --> 00:23:44,907 Speaker 6: of elite athletes. So I'm I'm a bit concerned at 402 00:23:44,907 --> 00:23:47,307 Speaker 6: the moment, but you know, let's give it a chance 403 00:23:47,347 --> 00:23:51,747 Speaker 6: to bose and sort of see what happens. But you know, 404 00:23:51,907 --> 00:23:54,027 Speaker 6: I was involved in rugby for a long time, you know, 405 00:23:54,787 --> 00:23:58,147 Speaker 6: and directing it all sorts of things. When I was 406 00:23:58,187 --> 00:24:02,627 Speaker 6: with the NSIBC years ago, so I'm sort of worried about. 407 00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:06,947 Speaker 6: And in Willington we get absolutely no publicity on love rugby. 408 00:24:06,947 --> 00:24:10,667 Speaker 6: In school rugby, what we read on our morning paper 409 00:24:10,787 --> 00:24:15,787 Speaker 6: comes from Hamilton or Auckland and it's shopping. But and 410 00:24:15,907 --> 00:24:18,227 Speaker 6: that is what rugby is suffering. 411 00:24:18,467 --> 00:24:21,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, it needs that, it needs that presence. Yeah, Bill, 412 00:24:21,227 --> 00:24:23,347 Speaker 3: I appreciate that that point of view. Look, I think 413 00:24:23,347 --> 00:24:25,307 Speaker 3: you make some interesting points on both sides, and as 414 00:24:25,347 --> 00:24:27,747 Speaker 3: you said, you're on the fence about it and maybe 415 00:24:27,747 --> 00:24:31,227 Speaker 3: worthy of a shot at this point. Oh eight hundred 416 00:24:31,227 --> 00:24:33,107 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two from Bill' 417 00:24:33,147 --> 00:24:36,907 Speaker 3: subminiging for a text. Asmonaging pointed, some view there from 418 00:24:36,907 --> 00:24:42,067 Speaker 3: Bill and Ian around it. This New Zealand Performance Academy 419 00:24:42,147 --> 00:24:46,587 Speaker 3: ALTUT as it's called. We're based at the NCCIS and 420 00:24:46,627 --> 00:24:49,267 Speaker 3: I was looking around the website to see what an 421 00:24:49,347 --> 00:24:51,347 Speaker 3: ideal day was and they've got a timetable which I 422 00:24:51,347 --> 00:24:54,267 Speaker 3: thought was interesting. So on Monday they start with a CUTAKA, 423 00:24:54,587 --> 00:24:57,387 Speaker 3: then it's maths and business, then it's a break, then 424 00:24:57,387 --> 00:25:00,347 Speaker 3: it's a double period of sport and study. Then it's lunch, 425 00:25:01,227 --> 00:25:03,627 Speaker 3: then it's health and pe and it's another break, then 426 00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:07,987 Speaker 3: it's science to finish. That's a sample schedule, but you 427 00:25:08,027 --> 00:25:10,907 Speaker 3: do you do the maths, you do English, you do business, 428 00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:13,107 Speaker 3: you do science. You obviously do a lot of sport 429 00:25:13,147 --> 00:25:15,147 Speaker 3: and study. So there is a balance there of trying 430 00:25:15,187 --> 00:25:19,507 Speaker 3: to do other subjects and obviously charter schools you've still 431 00:25:19,547 --> 00:25:21,427 Speaker 3: got to do the basics. You've still got to do, 432 00:25:22,987 --> 00:25:24,827 Speaker 3: you know, the subjects that are going to give you 433 00:25:26,067 --> 00:25:30,267 Speaker 3: a grounding in various fields and get that university entrance. Well, 434 00:25:30,307 --> 00:25:32,507 Speaker 3: I just think think is still in play. Apparent's about 435 00:25:32,507 --> 00:25:34,787 Speaker 3: a correct methods. If it's not, you still have to 436 00:25:34,827 --> 00:25:37,307 Speaker 3: do that. But there is a heavy obviously as you'd expect, 437 00:25:37,467 --> 00:25:39,867 Speaker 3: sport balance oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two 438 00:25:39,947 --> 00:25:41,747 Speaker 3: nine two for a text message. We're also going to 439 00:25:41,747 --> 00:25:45,707 Speaker 3: get secondary school Sport New Zealand their perspective on this 440 00:25:45,827 --> 00:25:47,627 Speaker 3: before the hour is out. But there's a lot of 441 00:25:47,667 --> 00:25:49,067 Speaker 3: texts I want to get to after the rack nine 442 00:25:49,067 --> 00:25:52,347 Speaker 3: two nine two oh eight hundred eighty ten eighteen ch 443 00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:55,947 Speaker 3: talking charter secondary school sports here on news Talk ZB 444 00:25:55,987 --> 00:25:57,387 Speaker 3: where it is twenty eight away from. 445 00:25:57,187 --> 00:26:01,947 Speaker 1: One the big issues on and after fields call oh 446 00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:06,347 Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty with GJ. Gunnos, New Zealand's 447 00:26:05,907 --> 00:26:08,227 Speaker 1: most Sodo Milder News Talk ZB. 448 00:26:08,907 --> 00:26:11,107 Speaker 3: It's twenty five away from one on news Talks z'd 449 00:26:11,107 --> 00:26:14,587 Speaker 3: be talking charter schools with the emergence of this new 450 00:26:14,587 --> 00:26:17,027 Speaker 3: school in Wellington at the New Zealand Campus of Institute 451 00:26:17,187 --> 00:26:20,347 Speaker 3: Campus of Innovation in Sport year elevens to thirteen's opening 452 00:26:20,387 --> 00:26:22,427 Speaker 3: term one next year is this is a good move 453 00:26:22,507 --> 00:26:25,827 Speaker 3: for our youngsters that want to take a look at 454 00:26:25,907 --> 00:26:29,747 Speaker 3: sport in the future. Play sport down the track load 455 00:26:29,787 --> 00:26:32,267 Speaker 3: of texts on nine two nine two Bretts with Brett 456 00:26:32,267 --> 00:26:34,547 Speaker 3: with an interesting point. Should we be using the term 457 00:26:34,627 --> 00:26:39,627 Speaker 3: high performance sport at high school? That is a very 458 00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:44,347 Speaker 3: good point, Very good point, Brett. It's an interesting one 459 00:26:44,387 --> 00:26:48,667 Speaker 3: because by year eleven, maybe you know that you do 460 00:26:48,787 --> 00:26:53,227 Speaker 3: want to focus on that high performance sport. Every first 461 00:26:53,227 --> 00:26:56,587 Speaker 3: fifteen program in the country probably considers themselves a high 462 00:26:56,627 --> 00:27:00,107 Speaker 3: performance sports system. Mazz with this. I could only have 463 00:27:00,147 --> 00:27:02,027 Speaker 3: wished for something like this when I was at school. 464 00:27:02,107 --> 00:27:03,827 Speaker 3: School didn't agree with me at all, but if it 465 00:27:03,867 --> 00:27:06,787 Speaker 3: wasn't for my pe teacher, I probably would have ended 466 00:27:06,827 --> 00:27:09,387 Speaker 3: up in jail. I'm excited for what this could do. 467 00:27:10,187 --> 00:27:11,947 Speaker 3: Muzz think he mus that there are a load of texts. 468 00:27:11,947 --> 00:27:14,387 Speaker 3: We'll get to more of them in a moment or so, 469 00:27:14,627 --> 00:27:16,187 Speaker 3: let's say, afternoon too Phil. 470 00:27:16,227 --> 00:27:18,547 Speaker 7: How are you not too bad? 471 00:27:18,627 --> 00:27:18,867 Speaker 8: Thinks? 472 00:27:18,867 --> 00:27:19,827 Speaker 3: How are you good? Thank you? 473 00:27:22,147 --> 00:27:22,387 Speaker 9: Yeah. 474 00:27:22,547 --> 00:27:23,507 Speaker 10: I like the sound of it. 475 00:27:23,547 --> 00:27:27,027 Speaker 11: I think it's going to be a great thing. I 476 00:27:27,067 --> 00:27:30,267 Speaker 11: was really interested with the interview with the fella and okus, sorry, 477 00:27:30,267 --> 00:27:35,947 Speaker 11: I'm just outside those made our car and traffic gard boy. Yeah. 478 00:27:35,987 --> 00:27:38,547 Speaker 11: He he sounds like he's all for it. And if 479 00:27:38,627 --> 00:27:42,667 Speaker 11: he's all for it, then he's pretty he's pretty on 480 00:27:42,707 --> 00:27:46,347 Speaker 11: the money. So exed to listen to. But I was 481 00:27:46,347 --> 00:27:48,827 Speaker 11: my one because my one can sort of concern was 482 00:27:48,867 --> 00:27:51,787 Speaker 11: that the academic side of things, that that gets dropped. 483 00:27:51,787 --> 00:27:54,907 Speaker 11: But sounds like they're still going to be focusing on 484 00:27:55,027 --> 00:27:58,667 Speaker 11: your learning, you know, with math and science and your 485 00:27:58,707 --> 00:28:01,187 Speaker 11: academic side of it. So I think it'll be a 486 00:28:01,187 --> 00:28:05,827 Speaker 11: brilliant thing, you know, for furthering someone's career, if they 487 00:28:06,427 --> 00:28:08,987 Speaker 11: for putting them there and seeing if they want to 488 00:28:09,027 --> 00:28:10,987 Speaker 11: go down that way or giving them the opportunity. 489 00:28:11,227 --> 00:28:13,027 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's it's it's probably not going to 490 00:28:13,067 --> 00:28:14,667 Speaker 3: be for everyone, is it. Filled It's not going to 491 00:28:14,747 --> 00:28:16,827 Speaker 3: be for a certain type of student, but then it 492 00:28:16,947 --> 00:28:19,747 Speaker 3: might suit you know, a youngster that is you know, 493 00:28:19,907 --> 00:28:22,867 Speaker 3: definitely wants to be on that course and knows by 494 00:28:22,947 --> 00:28:24,907 Speaker 3: year eleven that that's the life that they want to 495 00:28:24,947 --> 00:28:27,427 Speaker 3: try and follow. But it also gives them that grounding 496 00:28:28,347 --> 00:28:31,747 Speaker 3: that they can fall back on if things go awry 497 00:28:31,787 --> 00:28:33,627 Speaker 3: and they're not up to the standard of being a 498 00:28:33,627 --> 00:28:34,827 Speaker 3: professional sportsperson. 499 00:28:36,067 --> 00:28:39,507 Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, I think so, And I think that's the 500 00:28:40,107 --> 00:28:42,547 Speaker 11: brilliance of it because that's going to give that person 501 00:28:42,587 --> 00:28:46,747 Speaker 11: that opportunity. And like you said, no one's going to 502 00:28:46,787 --> 00:28:48,867 Speaker 11: be forced into it. You know that you're going to 503 00:28:48,987 --> 00:28:51,747 Speaker 11: have to do it and have to go and you like, 504 00:28:52,067 --> 00:28:53,747 Speaker 11: I'm not sure how it all works. But if you 505 00:28:53,907 --> 00:28:56,147 Speaker 11: do it and after a couple of years where you 506 00:28:56,227 --> 00:28:59,307 Speaker 11: go for you you're there for a couple of years 507 00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:02,427 Speaker 11: and you decide that no, it's not what I want 508 00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:06,187 Speaker 11: to do, or I'm not focused enough, or I know 509 00:29:06,347 --> 00:29:08,987 Speaker 11: I'm not going to make it, then you can, you know, 510 00:29:09,067 --> 00:29:12,347 Speaker 11: you can give it up and move on and further 511 00:29:12,427 --> 00:29:14,427 Speaker 11: on with your life and pursue what you want to do. 512 00:29:14,507 --> 00:29:16,227 Speaker 11: But the main thing is that it's going to give 513 00:29:16,347 --> 00:29:21,067 Speaker 11: someone that chance to become I think, you know, develop 514 00:29:21,107 --> 00:29:24,467 Speaker 11: into a professional sportsman in whatever field, if they do 515 00:29:24,627 --> 00:29:27,947 Speaker 11: more than rugby, and at this stage it's just a couple, 516 00:29:27,987 --> 00:29:30,867 Speaker 11: but if they do more, you know it's going to 517 00:29:30,907 --> 00:29:35,227 Speaker 11: be a great aid and further in the person's progress. 518 00:29:35,867 --> 00:29:38,067 Speaker 3: Absolutely. For Yeah, I think you raised some really good points. 519 00:29:38,107 --> 00:29:39,867 Speaker 3: They're nice to chat with you this afternoon. Oh eight 520 00:29:39,947 --> 00:29:42,747 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two for 521 00:29:42,907 --> 00:29:45,467 Speaker 3: a text message. And as I said, there are loads 522 00:29:45,507 --> 00:29:46,867 Speaker 3: and I'm just trying to find one that I wanted 523 00:29:46,867 --> 00:29:51,387 Speaker 3: to ask read out before. It was from Janus. It 524 00:29:51,507 --> 00:29:54,347 Speaker 3: was asking when do the Phoenix Academies sort of start? 525 00:29:54,347 --> 00:29:57,227 Speaker 3: And that's around a similar age. And this school seems 526 00:29:57,267 --> 00:30:00,827 Speaker 3: born out of what they're seeing at the Phoenix Academy 527 00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:02,867 Speaker 3: which is on the same site, or you know, through 528 00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:05,627 Speaker 3: the same people that are working there with the Wellington 529 00:30:05,667 --> 00:30:08,027 Speaker 3: Phoenix and go on, can we develop this into a 530 00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:12,027 Speaker 3: charter school? So they're seeing the value in it and 531 00:30:12,067 --> 00:30:14,507 Speaker 3: seeing that this would be more valuable if they can 532 00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:17,667 Speaker 3: get their hands on these kids and utilize them for 533 00:30:17,707 --> 00:30:20,067 Speaker 3: more hours in a day while still giving them their 534 00:30:20,067 --> 00:30:23,467 Speaker 3: academic background they need that they believe there is some 535 00:30:23,587 --> 00:30:26,307 Speaker 3: life in it. Cameron. With this we don't need the school. 536 00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:29,467 Speaker 3: We've already got King's College and Saint Kent's hoovering up 537 00:30:29,587 --> 00:30:34,187 Speaker 3: all the kids on scholarships. Brands as well says, why 538 00:30:34,187 --> 00:30:36,147 Speaker 3: are were blowing out first of thin kids at a 539 00:30:36,147 --> 00:30:38,987 Speaker 3: lot of these top rugby schools never to be seen again. 540 00:30:39,107 --> 00:30:42,307 Speaker 3: That would be a worry for me, and I guess 541 00:30:42,307 --> 00:30:45,627 Speaker 3: it happens at your usual high schools as well. Is 542 00:30:45,667 --> 00:30:50,147 Speaker 3: that often these kids are built up and egos are 543 00:30:50,147 --> 00:30:52,787 Speaker 3: created around them through the school yard or whatever it 544 00:30:52,867 --> 00:30:56,067 Speaker 3: might be. Or they've become the talk of the first 545 00:30:56,067 --> 00:31:00,507 Speaker 3: fifteen competition and the ego becomes very, very high, and 546 00:31:00,547 --> 00:31:04,267 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden they stopped developing. And how 547 00:31:04,267 --> 00:31:08,067 Speaker 3: do they adjust to life outside of high school once 548 00:31:08,107 --> 00:31:13,747 Speaker 3: have been in a sport immersive environment. Brett says, shouldn't 549 00:31:13,747 --> 00:31:15,507 Speaker 3: success of our sports kids be measured by how many 550 00:31:15,547 --> 00:31:22,987 Speaker 3: are going to the services, trades and university? Stephen says, hi, 551 00:31:23,107 --> 00:31:25,147 Speaker 3: I think this charter school has some potential. I can 552 00:31:25,147 --> 00:31:27,827 Speaker 3: see the choice of football and rugby as for sustainability. 553 00:31:28,027 --> 00:31:30,147 Speaker 3: I do wonder what competitions they'll play and to both 554 00:31:30,187 --> 00:31:33,347 Speaker 3: develop both the code and academics. I hope to see 555 00:31:33,347 --> 00:31:35,027 Speaker 3: what other sports will take up. I can see the 556 00:31:35,107 --> 00:31:37,907 Speaker 3: individual sports like tennis or swimming could see some strengths 557 00:31:38,027 --> 00:31:41,227 Speaker 3: rolling as a second hub two, but other team sports 558 00:31:41,827 --> 00:31:46,227 Speaker 3: like hockey might have some problems. Yeah, I think it's 559 00:31:46,227 --> 00:31:47,787 Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see how they develop and 560 00:31:47,787 --> 00:31:50,427 Speaker 3: how long they give rugby and football, and if they 561 00:31:50,467 --> 00:31:54,507 Speaker 3: are able to attract kids to enroll in the school, 562 00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:58,747 Speaker 3: and whether they decide to go with those individual sports, 563 00:32:00,747 --> 00:32:03,307 Speaker 3: whether they can go. We're gonna have a cricket academy here, 564 00:32:04,947 --> 00:32:08,787 Speaker 3: whether it's at the Lincoln in christ Church potentially or 565 00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:12,387 Speaker 3: wherever it might be rolling could be it Lake Cutapedo. 566 00:32:12,547 --> 00:32:16,667 Speaker 3: Maybe this could change the face of how we approach 567 00:32:16,707 --> 00:32:19,307 Speaker 3: sport in New Zealand. We've talked a bit about pathways 568 00:32:19,347 --> 00:32:24,147 Speaker 3: and various things around rugby in the past. This may 569 00:32:24,187 --> 00:32:26,227 Speaker 3: become the new gold standard, but I think there's a 570 00:32:26,227 --> 00:32:29,187 Speaker 3: lot of water to go under the bridge as yet. 571 00:32:29,227 --> 00:32:31,347 Speaker 3: Carol says this this is an interesting text. Will this 572 00:32:31,467 --> 00:32:35,707 Speaker 3: only be for families with money? If it looks for 573 00:32:36,187 --> 00:32:39,387 Speaker 3: if it looks at children from families of low socio families, 574 00:32:39,427 --> 00:32:43,387 Speaker 3: I would be for it, Carol. Interestingly, I was looking 575 00:32:43,427 --> 00:32:46,507 Speaker 3: around again to get the full story around this. There 576 00:32:46,547 --> 00:32:50,267 Speaker 3: is no cost to attend this school, which I found 577 00:32:50,427 --> 00:32:56,707 Speaker 3: very interesting. However, specialist training or services like personalized coaching, 578 00:32:56,987 --> 00:33:01,187 Speaker 3: external certifications, or advanced sport programs may occur in additional 579 00:33:01,227 --> 00:33:04,267 Speaker 3: costs that would be discussed and sheeduled individually with each 580 00:33:04,267 --> 00:33:05,787 Speaker 3: student based on the goals in it. So it would 581 00:33:05,827 --> 00:33:07,867 Speaker 3: not have a cost, and I'm sure they're going to 582 00:33:09,067 --> 00:33:11,307 Speaker 3: bring fence the number of people that can apply for it. 583 00:33:11,307 --> 00:33:13,267 Speaker 3: It's not going to be open slather. There will be 584 00:33:13,307 --> 00:33:15,267 Speaker 3: some rules, I'm sure around it, and I don't know 585 00:33:15,307 --> 00:33:19,947 Speaker 3: exactly how that will work when it comes to charter schools, 586 00:33:22,027 --> 00:33:24,827 Speaker 3: but there wouldn't be a cost, so in a similar 587 00:33:24,827 --> 00:33:29,827 Speaker 3: way to I'm sure public high schools, there'd be the 588 00:33:29,907 --> 00:33:34,627 Speaker 3: donation that they ask for or similar things that is 589 00:33:34,707 --> 00:33:37,227 Speaker 3: tagged as non compulsory. But on the surface of it, 590 00:33:37,267 --> 00:33:43,747 Speaker 3: there's no cost to attend this school at nzcis Sports 591 00:33:43,827 --> 00:33:45,867 Speaker 3: Charter School. See is one need to lead lessons from 592 00:33:45,867 --> 00:33:49,107 Speaker 3: premiership academies. Only zero point one percent of a premiership 593 00:33:49,147 --> 00:33:52,307 Speaker 3: academy entrance make it to the premiership and there is 594 00:33:52,307 --> 00:33:55,627 Speaker 3: a huge mental health impact as students drop out. That 595 00:33:55,747 --> 00:33:58,427 Speaker 3: is one thing I would be worried about is the 596 00:33:58,427 --> 00:34:02,147 Speaker 3: mental health side that just because you are enrolled at 597 00:34:02,187 --> 00:34:04,667 Speaker 3: that school which is focused on sport at year eleven, 598 00:34:04,947 --> 00:34:07,827 Speaker 3: does not mean you will be a professional sports person 599 00:34:08,187 --> 00:34:10,387 Speaker 3: at the age of twenty, at the age of twenty five, 600 00:34:10,427 --> 00:34:12,427 Speaker 3: at the age of thirty, and how do you adjust 601 00:34:12,667 --> 00:34:17,387 Speaker 3: to life outside of it? That would be the question 602 00:34:17,467 --> 00:34:19,627 Speaker 3: I would have to ask of these sort of schools. 603 00:34:21,027 --> 00:34:23,107 Speaker 3: How do we set up the kids that don't succeed, 604 00:34:24,027 --> 00:34:25,827 Speaker 3: that aren't going to be professional people that may have 605 00:34:25,827 --> 00:34:27,787 Speaker 3: looked the goods at year eleven, but by the year 606 00:34:27,827 --> 00:34:31,827 Speaker 3: of end of year thirteen, perhaps they haven't kicked on. 607 00:34:32,107 --> 00:34:33,947 Speaker 3: How do we look after those kids? Oh, eight hundred 608 00:34:33,947 --> 00:34:35,667 Speaker 3: and eighty teen eighty nine two nine two for a 609 00:34:35,747 --> 00:34:37,907 Speaker 3: text message, I still got time tour for a call 610 00:34:37,987 --> 00:34:39,867 Speaker 3: or two before at one o'clock. We are going to 611 00:34:39,867 --> 00:34:44,227 Speaker 3: get the school sports perspective as well. Before one o'clock 612 00:34:44,307 --> 00:34:47,507 Speaker 3: seventeen away from one News Talk z MB one. 613 00:34:47,387 --> 00:34:53,947 Speaker 1: Grudge hold n Gauge Weekend Sports with GJ. Gugnomes New Zealand's. 614 00:34:53,507 --> 00:34:56,467 Speaker 3: Most trusted No Mill Learn News Talks EBB where it 615 00:34:56,507 --> 00:34:59,987 Speaker 3: is thirteen away from one o'clock. Wanted to get the perspective, 616 00:35:00,027 --> 00:35:03,027 Speaker 3: perhaps that the other schools or the let's say the 617 00:35:03,027 --> 00:35:08,827 Speaker 3: incumbent View School Sports CEO for New Zealanders, Mike Summerule. Mike, 618 00:35:09,187 --> 00:35:11,867 Speaker 3: great to have you on the program this afternoon. What 619 00:35:12,027 --> 00:35:14,307 Speaker 3: was your initial reaction when you heard the news. 620 00:35:14,747 --> 00:35:17,547 Speaker 12: Look, it's come of a bit of a surprise. Obviously 621 00:35:17,587 --> 00:35:19,867 Speaker 12: outside of what's been reported in the media, we don't 622 00:35:19,907 --> 00:35:23,987 Speaker 12: have any information or detail about the school or their 623 00:35:23,987 --> 00:35:26,347 Speaker 12: desire to become a member of school Sport in New Zealand. 624 00:35:26,467 --> 00:35:29,147 Speaker 12: So it's I think we need to have a bit 625 00:35:29,147 --> 00:35:31,467 Speaker 12: of a chat with David Dome, and we've reached out 626 00:35:32,027 --> 00:35:34,747 Speaker 12: to the Phoenix to get a better understanding of the 627 00:35:34,787 --> 00:35:38,787 Speaker 12: intent or otherwise to participate in our events. So until 628 00:35:38,787 --> 00:35:42,227 Speaker 12: we really have that chat, there's not much to speculate on. 629 00:35:42,507 --> 00:35:46,107 Speaker 3: Do you think it's a positive for kids around the country. 630 00:35:47,627 --> 00:35:50,507 Speaker 12: Look, charter schools certainly have a lot of flexibility and 631 00:35:50,507 --> 00:35:54,027 Speaker 12: autonomy and how they structure their curriculum. They can offer 632 00:35:54,307 --> 00:35:57,827 Speaker 12: different school hours, specific focuses and so on, and that 633 00:35:57,827 --> 00:36:01,467 Speaker 12: can benefit a group of students who might be underachieving 634 00:36:01,627 --> 00:36:05,867 Speaker 12: or disengaged, or I might have a very clear pathway 635 00:36:05,867 --> 00:36:08,307 Speaker 12: that they want to follow, and in this case sport. 636 00:36:08,587 --> 00:36:11,787 Speaker 12: So you know, for those year eleven students who have 637 00:36:11,987 --> 00:36:15,747 Speaker 12: serious ambitions to become a professional athlete, then this environment 638 00:36:15,787 --> 00:36:17,067 Speaker 12: could certainly support that. 639 00:36:17,907 --> 00:36:21,427 Speaker 3: Do you expect it will fit into your national calendar 640 00:36:22,307 --> 00:36:23,947 Speaker 3: of secondary school sports events? 641 00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:25,507 Speaker 4: Yeah? 642 00:36:25,507 --> 00:36:28,507 Speaker 12: Look, charter schools by definition can become a member of 643 00:36:28,507 --> 00:36:29,507 Speaker 12: school Sport New Zealand. 644 00:36:30,347 --> 00:36:31,907 Speaker 4: What they need to adhere to is. 645 00:36:32,147 --> 00:36:34,867 Speaker 12: The same of every school in New Zealand, so we 646 00:36:35,147 --> 00:36:38,507 Speaker 12: need to have a chat with them to understand curriculum load, 647 00:36:38,587 --> 00:36:43,387 Speaker 12: attendance requirements etc. And like I said, until we have 648 00:36:43,507 --> 00:36:46,187 Speaker 12: that chat, it's probably not right to speculate on what 649 00:36:46,227 --> 00:36:46,827 Speaker 12: that might mean. 650 00:36:47,147 --> 00:36:50,467 Speaker 3: Have you had charter schools, charter schools around the country 651 00:36:50,547 --> 00:36:51,427 Speaker 3: part of it currently? 652 00:36:53,827 --> 00:37:00,467 Speaker 12: Yes, Saint Stephen's sorry Tiffany, are a member have year 653 00:37:00,547 --> 00:37:03,747 Speaker 12: nine students currently enrolled, so they probably don't have the 654 00:37:03,787 --> 00:37:06,987 Speaker 12: mass to participate on a national level right now, but 655 00:37:07,227 --> 00:37:09,787 Speaker 12: you know that we want to work with all schools 656 00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:12,427 Speaker 12: that can meet that criteria to become a member and 657 00:37:12,427 --> 00:37:15,627 Speaker 12: get all those incredible opportunities that exists through the calendar. 658 00:37:16,027 --> 00:37:18,027 Speaker 3: How do you expect schools might react? Is it just 659 00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:21,547 Speaker 3: another school to you know, the other schools? Is it 660 00:37:21,627 --> 00:37:23,667 Speaker 3: just another one that adds to the books or is 661 00:37:23,707 --> 00:37:25,187 Speaker 3: this going to be something outside the box. 662 00:37:26,307 --> 00:37:28,067 Speaker 12: I look, there's certainly a lot of interest. We've been 663 00:37:28,067 --> 00:37:31,307 Speaker 12: fielding a lot of questions from member schools and Principles, 664 00:37:31,347 --> 00:37:36,747 Speaker 12: et cetera. We just need detail. I think it's a 665 00:37:36,747 --> 00:37:40,147 Speaker 12: great opportunity for those kids, But obviously we know that 666 00:37:40,387 --> 00:37:42,627 Speaker 12: the flip side of all the great things that can 667 00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:46,987 Speaker 12: come with that specialization pieces, especially when you're talking about 668 00:37:47,067 --> 00:37:50,147 Speaker 12: sport and professional athletes, it's the one and two percent 669 00:37:50,227 --> 00:37:53,707 Speaker 12: that actually ever go on and make a career out 670 00:37:53,747 --> 00:37:57,347 Speaker 12: of those things. So I would hope that the focus 671 00:37:57,427 --> 00:38:00,907 Speaker 12: right now for that charter school is around the educational component, 672 00:38:01,027 --> 00:38:04,747 Speaker 12: you know, developing what it looks like for the ninety 673 00:38:04,747 --> 00:38:07,507 Speaker 12: odd percent of those that might not actually get a 674 00:38:07,507 --> 00:38:10,027 Speaker 12: professional contract out of all of this, and make sure 675 00:38:10,067 --> 00:38:13,667 Speaker 12: they come out with the qualifications and the attributes they 676 00:38:13,707 --> 00:38:15,467 Speaker 12: need to be a functioning citizen. 677 00:38:15,947 --> 00:38:18,067 Speaker 3: What are the kind of questions that Principles are already 678 00:38:18,107 --> 00:38:20,627 Speaker 3: asking you, Mike, Oh. 679 00:38:20,827 --> 00:38:24,787 Speaker 12: Just really general, what do you know about it? You know, 680 00:38:25,307 --> 00:38:28,827 Speaker 12: that's really outside of what's been reported in the media 681 00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:31,467 Speaker 12: that there really isn't much information to go on. So 682 00:38:32,347 --> 00:38:37,707 Speaker 12: I think that there's always a risk or a thought 683 00:38:37,787 --> 00:38:40,147 Speaker 12: that some schools might feel that are going to lose 684 00:38:40,147 --> 00:38:43,907 Speaker 12: their talented athletes that they've been developing. But until we 685 00:38:43,987 --> 00:38:48,787 Speaker 12: really understand what the intent of the new sports charter 686 00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,587 Speaker 12: school is going to be, there's no. 687 00:38:50,587 --> 00:38:53,027 Speaker 4: Points in speculating around what it might look like. 688 00:38:53,347 --> 00:38:55,067 Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be a fascinating see how this 689 00:38:55,347 --> 00:38:58,347 Speaker 3: develops with it starting two one next year. It's a 690 00:38:58,387 --> 00:39:00,347 Speaker 3: quick turner around. Mike, thank you very much for joining 691 00:39:00,427 --> 00:39:04,067 Speaker 3: us on news talk zeb Appreciate it. Pleasure Mike. Some 692 00:39:04,147 --> 00:39:06,827 Speaker 3: are there joining us on news talk ZIB school sports 693 00:39:06,947 --> 00:39:09,547 Speaker 3: CEO plenty of text in on nine two ninety two. 694 00:39:11,067 --> 00:39:12,787 Speaker 3: Once here is we're applying. At the moment we live 695 00:39:12,827 --> 00:39:15,467 Speaker 3: in Auckland, Sun is fourteen. The boarding school part costs 696 00:39:15,467 --> 00:39:18,587 Speaker 3: about five hundred dollars per week. Will be very interesting 697 00:39:18,627 --> 00:39:20,947 Speaker 3: to see what the Phoenix part will cost. And yeah, 698 00:39:21,867 --> 00:39:24,307 Speaker 3: you know it's free. So I suppose you're a border 699 00:39:25,027 --> 00:39:28,707 Speaker 3: you obviously pay the wage for the hostel, the fee 700 00:39:28,747 --> 00:39:32,147 Speaker 3: for the hostel, etcetera. So good luck with your application. 701 00:39:32,187 --> 00:39:35,227 Speaker 3: I'm interested to see how it's all unfolds. Roscoe with us. Hey, mate, 702 00:39:35,227 --> 00:39:37,307 Speaker 3: when I did sports like I realized that there are 703 00:39:37,347 --> 00:39:39,947 Speaker 3: two different models, a youth model and a professional model. 704 00:39:40,227 --> 00:39:43,707 Speaker 3: Youth model is for fun, goal setting, etcetera, essentially life skills. 705 00:39:43,947 --> 00:39:48,027 Speaker 3: Professional model is much more serious, money, sponsorship, et cetera involved. 706 00:39:48,067 --> 00:39:52,907 Speaker 3: We hope those lessons as well around sponsorship around being 707 00:39:52,947 --> 00:39:57,147 Speaker 3: a professional athlete are put in place at these schools. 708 00:39:58,187 --> 00:40:00,907 Speaker 3: Roscoe also adds a question is what does success mean? 709 00:40:00,987 --> 00:40:04,787 Speaker 3: And what is the whole curriculum that appears undefined to me? 710 00:40:04,907 --> 00:40:07,507 Speaker 3: What does success look like for the athletes? How do 711 00:40:07,507 --> 00:40:12,427 Speaker 3: you go you are a successful person leaving this, graduating 712 00:40:12,507 --> 00:40:14,867 Speaker 3: at the end of year thirteen? What does that look 713 00:40:14,907 --> 00:40:16,667 Speaker 3: like as you move in? Is it getting a contract? 714 00:40:16,747 --> 00:40:22,587 Speaker 3: Is it being the best grades across the levels at 715 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:25,107 Speaker 3: academic as well as having a sporting background. That to 716 00:40:25,147 --> 00:40:28,347 Speaker 3: me feels a little unclear. At this point seven and 717 00:40:28,347 --> 00:40:30,227 Speaker 3: a half away from one, we'll take a break, come back, 718 00:40:30,267 --> 00:40:31,947 Speaker 3: wrap up the hour with a few more texts. 719 00:40:31,947 --> 00:40:32,347 Speaker 9: After this. 720 00:40:34,387 --> 00:40:37,067 Speaker 1: The scoop from the track fields and the court on 721 00:40:37,107 --> 00:40:39,387 Speaker 1: your home of court weekends for it. 722 00:40:39,547 --> 00:40:40,347 Speaker 9: You talk me. 723 00:40:41,867 --> 00:40:43,667 Speaker 3: A load of texts on this and mop up a 724 00:40:43,707 --> 00:40:47,187 Speaker 3: few after one o'clock. Lind says this. Academics don't forgets 725 00:40:47,187 --> 00:40:49,667 Speaker 3: about teaching a trade. Fair point lind Yes, that could 726 00:40:49,667 --> 00:40:53,947 Speaker 3: be another avenue that these students go down look at trades. 727 00:40:53,987 --> 00:40:55,667 Speaker 3: For these school it is a better fallback than a 728 00:40:55,707 --> 00:41:00,027 Speaker 3: degree for some learners, or might get to a few more. 729 00:41:00,107 --> 00:41:03,267 Speaker 3: After one o'clock, as I say, after one, we're going 730 00:41:03,347 --> 00:41:06,947 Speaker 3: to talk to the NPC Final. Niney Poonavi and Jay 731 00:41:06,947 --> 00:41:10,587 Speaker 3: Broomfield are going to join us wings for Canterbury and 732 00:41:10,587 --> 00:41:13,227 Speaker 3: Otago respectively. In fact, I think they are marking each 733 00:41:13,267 --> 00:41:17,427 Speaker 3: other this afternoon in the final four oh five in 734 00:41:17,747 --> 00:41:20,467 Speaker 3: christ Church. Will take a look at the NPC Final 735 00:41:20,747 --> 00:41:24,467 Speaker 3: after one o'clock and our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock is 736 00:41:24,507 --> 00:41:27,947 Speaker 3: going to join us as well. Big day for Australia. 737 00:41:28,227 --> 00:41:31,467 Speaker 3: Cox Plate time. Adam Peacock's excited about that, will chat 738 00:41:31,507 --> 00:41:34,467 Speaker 3: with him about that's after one o'clock here on News 739 00:41:34,507 --> 00:41:37,067 Speaker 3: Talk zb but News Sports and where they're coming up 740 00:41:37,187 --> 00:41:38,907 Speaker 3: very shortly. 741 00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:42,387 Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on 742 00:41:42,747 --> 00:41:43,827 Speaker 1: and after field. 743 00:41:44,427 --> 00:41:45,107 Speaker 9: It's all on. 744 00:41:45,107 --> 00:41:50,427 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport on your home report News Talk Zimbing. 745 00:41:51,187 --> 00:41:55,147 Speaker 3: Welcome to en Weekend Sports Elliott Smith and for Jason Pine. 746 00:41:55,667 --> 00:41:59,747 Speaker 3: This weekend we'll talk the NPC Final very shortly on 747 00:41:59,787 --> 00:42:03,667 Speaker 3: the program. We'll head into both camps. Canterbury the home team, 748 00:42:03,747 --> 00:42:07,627 Speaker 3: Naney Putavi to join us. They've had an interesting old season, 749 00:42:07,707 --> 00:42:10,547 Speaker 3: just the one game lost and that was of course 750 00:42:10,587 --> 00:42:14,507 Speaker 3: to Otago. They lost the Renfilly Shield in doing so. 751 00:42:14,707 --> 00:42:16,747 Speaker 3: Nney Pinterviable will join us. Then we'll go into the 752 00:42:16,787 --> 00:42:20,867 Speaker 3: Otago camp the visitors. Jay Broomfield is going to join 753 00:42:20,907 --> 00:42:24,747 Speaker 3: the program. He's on the wing for Otago this afternoon. 754 00:42:24,867 --> 00:42:27,227 Speaker 3: Scored a try I think, and that shield challenge a 755 00:42:27,227 --> 00:42:29,227 Speaker 3: few weeks back. What's been the key to getting them 756 00:42:29,667 --> 00:42:31,947 Speaker 3: in the final. They'll join us as well. Adam Peacock 757 00:42:32,107 --> 00:42:36,347 Speaker 3: out of Australia before the hour is out as well. 758 00:42:36,427 --> 00:42:38,667 Speaker 3: Did want to close the loop though. On the charter 759 00:42:38,747 --> 00:42:42,027 Speaker 3: school discussion. We were having last plenty of text messages 760 00:42:42,027 --> 00:42:45,747 Speaker 3: that I found really interesting. Look at the Stephen Adams story, 761 00:42:45,747 --> 00:42:47,547 Speaker 3: says one. If he hadn't been lucky enough to have 762 00:42:47,627 --> 00:42:49,787 Speaker 3: been sent to a very good private school by a 763 00:42:49,827 --> 00:42:52,267 Speaker 3: lady who sponsored him, he would never be where he 764 00:42:52,507 --> 00:42:55,827 Speaker 3: is today. Another says there are already lots of schools 765 00:42:55,827 --> 00:42:59,867 Speaker 3: that have a focus and their academies all sorts of sports, sailing, golf, rowing, 766 00:42:59,907 --> 00:43:02,907 Speaker 3: et cetera. Nothing new That's a good point that there 767 00:43:02,907 --> 00:43:05,547 Speaker 3: are always sports that focus on their first fifteen rugby 768 00:43:05,667 --> 00:43:07,787 Speaker 3: or a known as football school or not as a 769 00:43:07,867 --> 00:43:11,387 Speaker 3: rowing school. This, I guess just streamlines it a little bit. 770 00:43:11,427 --> 00:43:17,267 Speaker 3: Where to wear sport is the number one focus more 771 00:43:17,427 --> 00:43:18,907 Speaker 3: high you can see what the Phoenix are doing here. 772 00:43:18,947 --> 00:43:21,227 Speaker 3: They already run their academy for players at Phraser Park. 773 00:43:21,267 --> 00:43:24,107 Speaker 3: Now they want to get government money to continue doing 774 00:43:24,267 --> 00:43:27,307 Speaker 3: what they do now, but calling it a charter school 775 00:43:28,307 --> 00:43:31,107 Speaker 3: and another interesting text, there is presently a clash in 776 00:43:31,227 --> 00:43:34,427 Speaker 3: time between the Phoenix Academy and school power struggle for 777 00:43:34,707 --> 00:43:37,227 Speaker 3: who kids play for. With kids on restrictive minutes for 778 00:43:37,267 --> 00:43:40,187 Speaker 3: their school teams, this charter school will pull kids away 779 00:43:40,187 --> 00:43:43,947 Speaker 3: from Maine single sex schools, so the Phoenix Academy doesn't 780 00:43:43,987 --> 00:43:47,507 Speaker 3: need to compete with schools. That's an interesting point of 781 00:43:47,587 --> 00:43:52,267 Speaker 3: view and last text on this matter. Maybe it's good 782 00:43:52,267 --> 00:43:54,667 Speaker 3: for the sort of kids that were good at sports 783 00:43:54,987 --> 00:43:57,747 Speaker 3: but only returning to year thirteen because of rugby and 784 00:43:57,827 --> 00:44:01,507 Speaker 3: not through anything else. Fascinating topic. I for one am 785 00:44:02,147 --> 00:44:05,627 Speaker 3: really interested to see how the school goes in Wellington 786 00:44:07,267 --> 00:44:09,347 Speaker 3: and whether it is a long term proposition and whether 787 00:44:09,387 --> 00:44:12,747 Speaker 3: they do diversify into other sports and what kind of 788 00:44:12,907 --> 00:44:15,987 Speaker 3: enrollment they get tacking up. It's going to intrigue this decision. 789 00:44:16,067 --> 00:44:18,147 Speaker 3: I'm sure we won text to last hour, so they 790 00:44:18,187 --> 00:44:22,107 Speaker 3: are they are enrolling now or considering enrolling doing the 791 00:44:22,107 --> 00:44:25,227 Speaker 3: boarding program since it was announced earlier in the week. 792 00:44:25,227 --> 00:44:27,467 Speaker 3: I'm sure that it's a conversation being had by a 793 00:44:27,507 --> 00:44:31,187 Speaker 3: number of kids and their parents around the country. Richard 794 00:44:31,227 --> 00:44:32,907 Speaker 3: with the final word that I did say I had 795 00:44:32,987 --> 00:44:34,667 Speaker 3: last text the final we'd go, so Richard, I bet 796 00:44:34,707 --> 00:44:39,547 Speaker 3: those teachers won't strike. Thank you, Richard. Ten after one 797 00:44:39,827 --> 00:44:42,947 Speaker 3: on news Talk ZBB, We're counting down to the NPC 798 00:44:43,147 --> 00:44:46,747 Speaker 3: final live commentary on Gold Sports with our team. Nick 799 00:44:46,787 --> 00:44:50,187 Speaker 3: Beuley are captaining our commentary team this say afternoon alongside 800 00:44:50,227 --> 00:44:53,427 Speaker 3: former All Black Matt Todd, who is alongside Craig Kerr 801 00:44:53,507 --> 00:44:57,107 Speaker 3: running sideline. Will chat with Nick Buley next hour on 802 00:44:57,187 --> 00:45:00,387 Speaker 3: the program. But first and foremostly it's headed into Cannabury 803 00:45:00,387 --> 00:45:02,507 Speaker 3: Camp here on news Talk ZEBB, and. 804 00:45:02,507 --> 00:45:05,947 Speaker 13: It's a one turnover Canterbury back with decision or Gardener 805 00:45:05,987 --> 00:45:07,907 Speaker 13: had not there's other short side left. Couldn't get the 806 00:45:07,907 --> 00:45:11,307 Speaker 13: offload free but here comes Jabe Hennah up over halfway, 807 00:45:11,587 --> 00:45:13,067 Speaker 13: gets to pass three to put a bye. 808 00:45:13,227 --> 00:45:15,867 Speaker 9: He's over the ten, he's over the twenty two. He 809 00:45:16,067 --> 00:45:18,067 Speaker 9: will not be stocks. 810 00:45:18,107 --> 00:45:22,427 Speaker 13: Canterbury's got the first try the day and it's ninety. 811 00:45:22,547 --> 00:45:25,467 Speaker 13: Put him by who runs the beast part of forty 812 00:45:25,507 --> 00:45:26,747 Speaker 13: mins at touch. 813 00:45:26,627 --> 00:45:28,467 Speaker 3: And he is the man that is joining us now 814 00:45:28,587 --> 00:45:32,027 Speaker 3: on News Talk ZIB Naney Poonavie, thanks for your time 815 00:45:32,067 --> 00:45:34,467 Speaker 3: this afternoon here on News Talk ZBB. 816 00:45:34,867 --> 00:45:35,987 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, thanks for having me. 817 00:45:36,187 --> 00:45:39,067 Speaker 3: The big dance ninety counting down to that again, otago 818 00:45:39,227 --> 00:45:42,507 Speaker 3: the Southern rivalry. How excited are you for the final 819 00:45:42,627 --> 00:45:43,347 Speaker 3: this afternoon? 820 00:45:44,027 --> 00:45:47,347 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know here that it's almost sold out so 821 00:45:47,427 --> 00:45:49,027 Speaker 14: it should be a good crowd. Hopefully it's a good 822 00:45:49,067 --> 00:45:51,907 Speaker 14: day and yeah, excited to play some finals footy. 823 00:45:52,547 --> 00:45:55,027 Speaker 3: How have you built it as a team this season Canterbury? 824 00:45:55,027 --> 00:45:56,707 Speaker 3: Obviously the one loss will get to that in a 825 00:45:56,747 --> 00:45:59,627 Speaker 3: moment or two. But what's been important for you as 826 00:45:59,667 --> 00:46:02,947 Speaker 3: a Canterbury side this season as you've gone through the campaign. 827 00:46:03,507 --> 00:46:05,627 Speaker 14: We've put it Yeah, well, I think we've put a 828 00:46:05,627 --> 00:46:09,067 Speaker 14: real emphasis on just really loving what we do each 829 00:46:09,147 --> 00:46:11,867 Speaker 14: day and enjoying every day were at work together and 830 00:46:12,707 --> 00:46:15,147 Speaker 14: just really connecting as a group off the field, so 831 00:46:15,187 --> 00:46:18,427 Speaker 14: that you know, when we're on the field, we're good 832 00:46:18,467 --> 00:46:20,467 Speaker 14: mates and we're willing to work hard for each other. 833 00:46:20,747 --> 00:46:23,467 Speaker 3: You're black said no to Sam Darry or George Bell 834 00:46:23,547 --> 00:46:26,587 Speaker 3: this week. How quickly do you not necessarily move on 835 00:46:26,707 --> 00:46:29,347 Speaker 3: from them not being there, but move into that next 836 00:46:29,387 --> 00:46:31,587 Speaker 3: man up mentality? How quickly is the team? Do you 837 00:46:31,627 --> 00:46:34,587 Speaker 3: welcome in Brian McAllister Hooker and the other changes that 838 00:46:34,627 --> 00:46:35,227 Speaker 3: you've made. 839 00:46:35,507 --> 00:46:39,067 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, no, we're absolutely staked for Dairy and Bally 840 00:46:39,547 --> 00:46:42,627 Speaker 14: to get the call up to the big black jersey, 841 00:46:42,667 --> 00:46:45,347 Speaker 14: and we're happy for them to go and do that. 842 00:46:46,147 --> 00:46:47,947 Speaker 14: But yeah, like you say, you know, we trust the 843 00:46:47,947 --> 00:46:51,947 Speaker 14: next man man up, and everyone's been working hard all season, 844 00:46:51,987 --> 00:46:54,267 Speaker 14: so no matter what who's wearing the jersey, we know 845 00:46:54,267 --> 00:46:55,067 Speaker 14: that they would do the job. 846 00:46:55,627 --> 00:46:57,547 Speaker 3: There have been some tough games along the way. A 847 00:46:57,547 --> 00:46:59,947 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, Counties Monaco pushed you right to 848 00:46:59,987 --> 00:47:02,627 Speaker 3: the limit into extra time, the Otago game where you 849 00:47:02,707 --> 00:47:05,867 Speaker 3: lost the shield as well. How have you dealt with 850 00:47:05,907 --> 00:47:10,147 Speaker 3: the challenge and the adversity that's been throwing your way. 851 00:47:10,627 --> 00:47:12,987 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think you know, each week we've we've learned 852 00:47:12,987 --> 00:47:16,307 Speaker 14: a lot about ourselves and and about who we are 853 00:47:16,507 --> 00:47:20,227 Speaker 14: as a team, and yeah, I think those those challenges, 854 00:47:20,267 --> 00:47:22,347 Speaker 14: as you say, have set us up nicely for for 855 00:47:22,387 --> 00:47:25,387 Speaker 14: whatever's going to come on this Saturday. So you know, 856 00:47:25,427 --> 00:47:28,267 Speaker 14: we feel that we're well prepared and we're really ready 857 00:47:28,307 --> 00:47:28,707 Speaker 14: take it on. 858 00:47:29,307 --> 00:47:32,867 Speaker 3: What are your expectations throw a Tigo in this afternoon's final. 859 00:47:33,627 --> 00:47:37,147 Speaker 14: You know they'll be full of confidence that they've had 860 00:47:37,147 --> 00:47:40,307 Speaker 14: a really good season and obviously last time they're up here, 861 00:47:40,307 --> 00:47:43,787 Speaker 14: they they they got the chocolates, So you know we're 862 00:47:43,787 --> 00:47:47,107 Speaker 14: expecting a really good battle and that they definitely won't 863 00:47:47,827 --> 00:47:48,987 Speaker 14: give it to us very easily. 864 00:47:49,067 --> 00:47:50,707 Speaker 8: So you know we're up for that. 865 00:47:51,267 --> 00:47:55,267 Speaker 14: We've been prepared all week and you know we're just 866 00:47:55,267 --> 00:47:56,987 Speaker 14: excited to get out there and play in front of 867 00:47:57,027 --> 00:47:57,507 Speaker 14: our fans. 868 00:47:58,027 --> 00:48:00,227 Speaker 3: Do you consider it maybe a little bit of revenge 869 00:48:00,267 --> 00:48:02,867 Speaker 3: for what happened with the Ranfilly Shield going their way 870 00:48:02,867 --> 00:48:04,867 Speaker 3: a few weeks back when they played last. 871 00:48:06,547 --> 00:48:09,267 Speaker 8: Well, you know, I'd be lying if it wasn't sitting 872 00:48:09,267 --> 00:48:10,187 Speaker 8: in the back of my mind. 873 00:48:11,347 --> 00:48:15,907 Speaker 14: You know, definitely want to repay them, I guess, But 874 00:48:16,027 --> 00:48:18,187 Speaker 14: you know, we've just really focused on what we're going 875 00:48:18,267 --> 00:48:20,987 Speaker 14: to do this week and how we're going to you know, 876 00:48:21,187 --> 00:48:22,347 Speaker 14: get the result that we want to. 877 00:48:22,787 --> 00:48:25,667 Speaker 3: Were there any lessons out of that game in terms 878 00:48:25,707 --> 00:48:27,947 Speaker 3: of how you might approach this afternoon or maybe even 879 00:48:27,947 --> 00:48:31,227 Speaker 3: o targo approach it, because there was what fifteen minutes 880 00:48:31,267 --> 00:48:33,147 Speaker 3: of the game they took away from you with some 881 00:48:33,187 --> 00:48:35,667 Speaker 3: really good rugby. Were there lessons that you can take 882 00:48:35,707 --> 00:48:37,707 Speaker 3: into this afternoon that will be valuable? 883 00:48:38,347 --> 00:48:40,547 Speaker 14: I think, well, well, we obviously know that they're not 884 00:48:40,587 --> 00:48:43,067 Speaker 14: going to go away, so no matter what the score is, 885 00:48:43,547 --> 00:48:45,267 Speaker 14: no matter the time on the clock, they're going to 886 00:48:45,347 --> 00:48:47,907 Speaker 14: keep coming and throwing everything at us. So we've just 887 00:48:47,947 --> 00:48:50,627 Speaker 14: got to be stay on for the whole eighty minutes 888 00:48:50,867 --> 00:48:53,587 Speaker 14: or one hundred minutes if that's what it takes, as 889 00:48:53,627 --> 00:48:56,467 Speaker 14: we saw a couple of weeks ago, So yeah, just 890 00:48:56,467 --> 00:48:58,947 Speaker 14: just knowing that they're never going to die, so we 891 00:48:59,547 --> 00:49:00,227 Speaker 14: can't die either. 892 00:49:00,467 --> 00:49:02,107 Speaker 3: How much did it take out of the leagues a 893 00:49:02,107 --> 00:49:04,347 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, that one hundred minute game against 894 00:49:04,347 --> 00:49:06,827 Speaker 3: Counties in the quarter finals end. Do you think it's 895 00:49:06,827 --> 00:49:09,027 Speaker 3: a good preparation that if today does come down to 896 00:49:09,027 --> 00:49:11,907 Speaker 3: an extra time scenario that you've been there before in 897 00:49:11,987 --> 00:49:12,747 Speaker 3: recent games. 898 00:49:13,187 --> 00:49:15,267 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think we've we've took a lot of confidence 899 00:49:15,307 --> 00:49:17,347 Speaker 14: out of it. You know that we can go that 900 00:49:17,467 --> 00:49:21,187 Speaker 14: deep and that we can handle that. So yeah, you know, 901 00:49:21,547 --> 00:49:23,947 Speaker 14: we're feeling really good with fresh and ready this week, 902 00:49:24,867 --> 00:49:26,707 Speaker 14: so if that's what it takes, then we're willing to 903 00:49:26,747 --> 00:49:27,067 Speaker 14: go there. 904 00:49:27,187 --> 00:49:30,147 Speaker 3: Well, I sold that crowd. As you mentioned this afternoon, 905 00:49:30,307 --> 00:49:32,627 Speaker 3: it's the last time as well Canterbury will play at 906 00:49:32,667 --> 00:49:35,427 Speaker 3: Apollo Projects Stadium. How much does that mean to you 907 00:49:35,507 --> 00:49:37,267 Speaker 3: and the team that you're getting this sort of send 908 00:49:37,267 --> 00:49:38,107 Speaker 3: off this afternoon. 909 00:49:38,907 --> 00:49:41,347 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's obviously, you know, something that we spoke about 910 00:49:41,347 --> 00:49:42,787 Speaker 14: at the start of the season with us been the 911 00:49:42,867 --> 00:49:46,787 Speaker 14: last ken every season at Apollo and you know, it's 912 00:49:46,827 --> 00:49:52,547 Speaker 14: been very special, and yeah, I think it's pretty cool 913 00:49:52,547 --> 00:49:54,867 Speaker 14: that we can play one one more game there and 914 00:49:55,587 --> 00:49:59,347 Speaker 14: hopefully it's a full house and it's going to be 915 00:49:59,347 --> 00:50:01,587 Speaker 14: a very special occasion to send off the stadium. 916 00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:04,947 Speaker 3: Canterbury wing Nandi Punavia with US on News Talk zib Naney. 917 00:50:04,987 --> 00:50:07,507 Speaker 3: I was looking at the stats a little bit. I 918 00:50:07,547 --> 00:50:10,107 Speaker 3: think you debuted in twenty seventeen in a Shield game 919 00:50:10,147 --> 00:50:12,787 Speaker 3: in pre season. Canterbury went on to win the title 920 00:50:12,827 --> 00:50:15,067 Speaker 3: that year, but I know you didn't play a further 921 00:50:15,107 --> 00:50:17,987 Speaker 3: part in that campaign, but you're obviously around the team 922 00:50:18,067 --> 00:50:20,867 Speaker 3: do you take much out of that eight years ago, 923 00:50:20,907 --> 00:50:23,067 Speaker 3: what it took to win a title on that occasion? 924 00:50:23,787 --> 00:50:27,467 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, No, that was very special to I remember 925 00:50:27,467 --> 00:50:29,107 Speaker 14: when on the stadium first went up and I was 926 00:50:29,187 --> 00:50:31,627 Speaker 14: a young fellow going along and watching the Canobary games 927 00:50:31,627 --> 00:50:34,067 Speaker 14: and then, like you say, to get my debut there 928 00:50:34,147 --> 00:50:38,347 Speaker 14: and be a part of that twenty seventeen group was 929 00:50:38,987 --> 00:50:43,107 Speaker 14: very special and I think if anything, I was just 930 00:50:43,347 --> 00:50:46,227 Speaker 14: not taking it for granted, you know, like finals, don't 931 00:50:46,227 --> 00:50:48,907 Speaker 14: get to be in a final that often. So it's 932 00:50:48,947 --> 00:50:52,747 Speaker 14: just been enjoying every moment this week and enjoying what 933 00:50:53,027 --> 00:50:53,787 Speaker 14: said today Wilbreen. 934 00:50:54,107 --> 00:50:56,347 Speaker 3: What did to touch on Tom Christy as well? His 935 00:50:56,467 --> 00:50:58,707 Speaker 3: last game for the province. He's been a workhorse for 936 00:50:59,227 --> 00:51:01,427 Speaker 3: a number of seasons for Canterbury. He was there in 937 00:51:01,427 --> 00:51:04,067 Speaker 3: that twenty seventeen winning team, so you've seen him up 938 00:51:04,067 --> 00:51:05,747 Speaker 3: close for a number of years. What does he mean 939 00:51:05,787 --> 00:51:06,547 Speaker 3: to cantor. 940 00:51:07,347 --> 00:51:08,307 Speaker 8: Yeah, Tom's massive. 941 00:51:08,347 --> 00:51:11,627 Speaker 14: He's you know, obviously with losing Cohen Grace earlier in 942 00:51:11,627 --> 00:51:15,027 Speaker 14: the season, Tom's just stepped into that cpancy role and 943 00:51:15,467 --> 00:51:18,067 Speaker 14: he's taken it in a stride and he just leaves 944 00:51:18,427 --> 00:51:19,987 Speaker 14: by example when it's easy to follow. 945 00:51:20,027 --> 00:51:20,227 Speaker 7: Him. 946 00:51:20,627 --> 00:51:23,507 Speaker 8: All the boys love playing alongside him because you just. 947 00:51:23,507 --> 00:51:24,947 Speaker 14: Know what you're going to get from him, and he's 948 00:51:25,267 --> 00:51:27,827 Speaker 14: he's going to go and give everything for us. So 949 00:51:28,267 --> 00:51:31,027 Speaker 14: hopefully we can send him off in style in the 950 00:51:31,027 --> 00:51:31,907 Speaker 14: way that he deserves. 951 00:51:32,227 --> 00:51:33,987 Speaker 3: What are going to be the key this afternoon? Is 952 00:51:33,987 --> 00:51:36,667 Speaker 3: it a quick start stamping your authority on the game 953 00:51:36,707 --> 00:51:37,667 Speaker 3: if you possibly can. 954 00:51:38,427 --> 00:51:40,707 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think you know, you always want to no 955 00:51:40,747 --> 00:51:42,187 Speaker 14: matter what the game is, you want to have a 956 00:51:42,187 --> 00:51:46,267 Speaker 14: good start and not be chasing. But we're prepared for 957 00:51:46,307 --> 00:51:48,987 Speaker 14: all situations and we know that it's going to take 958 00:51:48,987 --> 00:51:52,227 Speaker 14: the full eighty minutes to get a result that we want, 959 00:51:52,307 --> 00:51:54,067 Speaker 14: so just being prepared for that. 960 00:51:54,787 --> 00:51:57,547 Speaker 3: I know as a team you went to Lancaster Park 961 00:51:57,867 --> 00:52:01,627 Speaker 3: or Jade Stadium or Ami Stadium, depending on what generation 962 00:52:01,787 --> 00:52:04,587 Speaker 3: you grew up in, but you obviously didn't play at 963 00:52:04,627 --> 00:52:07,347 Speaker 3: that ground, But as a team going there in the week, 964 00:52:07,427 --> 00:52:10,027 Speaker 3: what was the reasoning behind that and what did you 965 00:52:10,067 --> 00:52:10,707 Speaker 3: get out of it? 966 00:52:11,707 --> 00:52:11,947 Speaker 8: Yeah? 967 00:52:11,947 --> 00:52:15,627 Speaker 14: That was, you know, pretty special to go there and 968 00:52:16,147 --> 00:52:19,947 Speaker 14: had guys like Ryan Croddy share a few memories there, 969 00:52:20,027 --> 00:52:24,227 Speaker 14: and obviously a few of the boys were young kids 970 00:52:24,347 --> 00:52:27,707 Speaker 14: going watching the Kennary games there, so it was was 971 00:52:27,707 --> 00:52:30,627 Speaker 14: pretty special to hear those sort of stories, and it 972 00:52:30,667 --> 00:52:33,587 Speaker 14: was more about just you know, connecting as a as 973 00:52:33,627 --> 00:52:37,587 Speaker 14: a team and knowing you know what Apollo actually. 974 00:52:37,867 --> 00:52:40,027 Speaker 8: Has sort of stood in for. 975 00:52:40,747 --> 00:52:44,507 Speaker 14: You know, Lancaster Park was a huge place and massive 976 00:52:44,587 --> 00:52:48,667 Speaker 14: part of Kennbury rugby and Crusaders rugby. So but then 977 00:52:48,827 --> 00:52:53,667 Speaker 14: acknowledging what the significance of a POLO standing in as 978 00:52:53,667 --> 00:52:58,507 Speaker 14: a sort of a long term makeshift stadium and just 979 00:52:58,987 --> 00:53:02,467 Speaker 14: recognizing the you know what it's done for our community, 980 00:53:02,587 --> 00:53:05,387 Speaker 14: especially through those those first couple of years of the earthquakes. 981 00:53:05,667 --> 00:53:07,947 Speaker 3: Do you have any of going along to that ground 982 00:53:07,987 --> 00:53:10,387 Speaker 3: as a youngster, Nai pre earthquakes? 983 00:53:10,827 --> 00:53:12,987 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I remember going to a couple of games 984 00:53:13,067 --> 00:53:18,387 Speaker 14: and yeah, just the crowds, you know, it used to 985 00:53:18,387 --> 00:53:20,787 Speaker 14: pack out and it was a huge stadium, and I 986 00:53:20,827 --> 00:53:23,747 Speaker 14: just remember being really inspired as a little kid watching 987 00:53:24,307 --> 00:53:28,107 Speaker 14: Canterbury go to work and score tries and win games, 988 00:53:28,147 --> 00:53:29,787 Speaker 14: and yeah, it. 989 00:53:29,747 --> 00:53:30,427 Speaker 8: Was pretty special. 990 00:53:30,467 --> 00:53:32,267 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a doozy of the final. Nanni, thanks 991 00:53:32,307 --> 00:53:34,187 Speaker 3: so much of your time on News Talk ZEBB and 992 00:53:34,227 --> 00:53:37,107 Speaker 3: best luck as you try to send a Pollo Project 993 00:53:37,107 --> 00:53:39,787 Speaker 3: stadium off with a bang this afternoon. Thanks to your 994 00:53:39,787 --> 00:53:41,147 Speaker 3: time on news Talk ZB. 995 00:53:41,227 --> 00:53:43,907 Speaker 8: Appreciate it awesome, Thank you very much shoving me chairs. 996 00:53:44,067 --> 00:53:46,467 Speaker 3: Thank you Nanni for your time. On news Talk ZEB 997 00:53:46,627 --> 00:53:48,867 Speaker 3: Canterbury Wing Nanny put Avice, we count down to this 998 00:53:48,947 --> 00:53:54,387 Speaker 3: afternoon's NPC final. That was the Canterbury perspective on how 999 00:53:54,467 --> 00:53:57,907 Speaker 3: they hope it might unfold this afternoon. O Targa fans 1000 00:53:57,907 --> 00:54:00,867 Speaker 3: stand by. After the break we go into the camp 1001 00:54:00,867 --> 00:54:03,307 Speaker 3: of the Blue and Gold Jay Broomfield to join us 1002 00:54:03,307 --> 00:54:05,227 Speaker 3: here on news Talk ZB where it is coming up 1003 00:54:05,227 --> 00:54:08,787 Speaker 3: twenty after one. This weekend is going to be epic. 1004 00:54:08,867 --> 00:54:12,347 Speaker 3: Our guy Joseph Parker is fighting Farbigo Wardley at school. 1005 00:54:12,347 --> 00:54:15,907 Speaker 3: All going down tomorrow morning, Sunday morning, October twenty six. 1006 00:54:16,027 --> 00:54:19,627 Speaker 3: Catch all the action live only on Dezonne, the global 1007 00:54:19,707 --> 00:54:21,827 Speaker 3: home of boxing. If you're not up to speed, here 1008 00:54:21,907 --> 00:54:24,547 Speaker 3: is the run down. Park of the WBO Interim Heavyweight 1009 00:54:24,627 --> 00:54:29,307 Speaker 3: Champion has destroyed the competition. Mccoley, Zang and Wilder. Now Wardley, 1010 00:54:29,307 --> 00:54:33,187 Speaker 3: who's the WBA Interim Heavyweight Champion and British knockout Powerhouse, 1011 00:54:33,227 --> 00:54:35,827 Speaker 3: stands in his way. Only one will earn a spot 1012 00:54:35,867 --> 00:54:38,467 Speaker 3: at shot rather at tacking on Alexander Usik for the 1013 00:54:38,507 --> 00:54:42,107 Speaker 3: world heavyweight undisputed glory. There's nothing bigger, It's all nothing 1014 00:54:42,387 --> 00:54:44,227 Speaker 3: for our Here we said, come on New Zealand, let's 1015 00:54:44,227 --> 00:54:48,227 Speaker 3: get behind our champion. This Sunday, October twenty six, Joseph 1016 00:54:48,307 --> 00:54:51,307 Speaker 3: Parker versus Farbigo Wardley. Make sure you don't miss the action. 1017 00:54:51,427 --> 00:54:53,907 Speaker 3: Watch it live only on dezone dot com. That's da 1018 00:54:54,147 --> 00:54:57,027 Speaker 3: zend dot com. Download the Apple Watch on your TV, 1019 00:54:57,187 --> 00:55:01,507 Speaker 3: smartphone or gaming console. Daz end dot com. Download the 1020 00:55:01,547 --> 00:55:04,707 Speaker 3: Apple Watch on your TV, smartphone or gaming console. 1021 00:55:06,467 --> 00:55:09,227 Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred 1022 00:55:09,227 --> 00:55:13,347 Speaker 1: and eighty eighty weekends for with which GJ gunns New 1023 00:55:13,427 --> 00:55:17,667 Speaker 1: Zealand's lost trusted home builder News Talk ZENB fifteen. 1024 00:55:17,787 --> 00:55:20,067 Speaker 13: For the right wing, Chuch and Iago work it back 1025 00:55:20,067 --> 00:55:23,147 Speaker 13: open side left through their replacement prop lopezh. He's brought 1026 00:55:23,147 --> 00:55:24,547 Speaker 13: down right in front of the posts. They work it 1027 00:55:24,587 --> 00:55:26,427 Speaker 13: back to the right. They've got numbers here. Otager just 1028 00:55:26,467 --> 00:55:27,347 Speaker 13: got to get it to the Wager. 1029 00:55:27,427 --> 00:55:30,867 Speaker 9: Oh that is a spectacular pass. And I believe it's 1030 00:55:30,987 --> 00:55:32,787 Speaker 9: Jay Broomfield. 1031 00:55:32,147 --> 00:55:33,787 Speaker 3: And that's the man that we're about to talk to 1032 00:55:33,907 --> 00:55:37,067 Speaker 3: here on news Talk ZMB. We got the Canterbury side 1033 00:55:37,107 --> 00:55:39,507 Speaker 3: of things before the break and the man who'll actually 1034 00:55:39,547 --> 00:55:43,267 Speaker 3: be marking up against him this afternoon. Jay Broomfield for 1035 00:55:43,427 --> 00:55:47,147 Speaker 3: Otago joins the program. Now, Jay, thanks for your time 1036 00:55:47,227 --> 00:55:49,907 Speaker 3: house things as you build up to the big dance 1037 00:55:49,947 --> 00:55:51,227 Speaker 3: this weekend this afternoon. 1038 00:55:51,667 --> 00:55:54,307 Speaker 15: Yeah, no, it's all good. Five around. The group's are 1039 00:55:54,307 --> 00:55:56,427 Speaker 15: real good today, so pretty exciting times. 1040 00:55:56,507 --> 00:55:56,907 Speaker 7: I bet. 1041 00:55:56,947 --> 00:55:59,747 Speaker 3: How excited are you for this opportunity the final Eiggins 1042 00:55:59,787 --> 00:56:00,867 Speaker 3: Canterbury this afternoon. 1043 00:56:01,587 --> 00:56:03,907 Speaker 16: I mean, finals like this don't come right often, so 1044 00:56:04,187 --> 00:56:05,707 Speaker 16: it's pretty exciting for the boys. 1045 00:56:05,507 --> 00:56:08,427 Speaker 15: Just to be here and you have to experience this environment. 1046 00:56:08,787 --> 00:56:10,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the first time that Italia has 1047 00:56:10,867 --> 00:56:13,227 Speaker 3: been at a top final since two thousand and five. 1048 00:56:13,267 --> 00:56:15,667 Speaker 3: Have you talked about the history as a team this 1049 00:56:15,787 --> 00:56:17,827 Speaker 3: week and your chance to do something special? 1050 00:56:18,827 --> 00:56:19,427 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, a. 1051 00:56:19,387 --> 00:56:21,387 Speaker 16: Little bit obviously touching on it because it's been a while, 1052 00:56:21,427 --> 00:56:24,947 Speaker 16: but for us it's again it's just another week, another 1053 00:56:25,187 --> 00:56:26,747 Speaker 16: chance for us to get better as a team and 1054 00:56:27,067 --> 00:56:28,427 Speaker 16: at the end of the day, it's just another game 1055 00:56:28,427 --> 00:56:29,507 Speaker 16: of footy on that Saturday. 1056 00:56:29,907 --> 00:56:32,027 Speaker 3: What's been behind your success this season? How have you 1057 00:56:32,067 --> 00:56:35,507 Speaker 3: managed to build through the campaign? From the outside looking in, 1058 00:56:35,587 --> 00:56:38,227 Speaker 3: it feels like you've gained some confidence every week as 1059 00:56:38,267 --> 00:56:40,987 Speaker 3: you've gone on. But internally, how do you think you've 1060 00:56:41,027 --> 00:56:42,307 Speaker 3: built as a team this season. 1061 00:56:42,547 --> 00:56:43,987 Speaker 16: I think a massive one for us to see, and 1062 00:56:43,987 --> 00:56:47,027 Speaker 16: there has been that connection piece coming in. I was 1063 00:56:47,027 --> 00:56:49,587 Speaker 16: obviously a new person coming into the team, but as 1064 00:56:49,627 --> 00:56:51,507 Speaker 16: straight away it felt like I was welcome. 1065 00:56:51,227 --> 00:56:51,907 Speaker 15: With open arms. 1066 00:56:51,907 --> 00:56:54,867 Speaker 16: And then having this new group of coaching with Brownie 1067 00:56:55,067 --> 00:56:57,707 Speaker 16: and Bamas and Scottie all coming in and just adding 1068 00:56:57,707 --> 00:57:00,547 Speaker 16: their own little piece of knowledge and piece of expertise. 1069 00:57:00,547 --> 00:57:02,187 Speaker 16: I think it's really brought us together quite well as 1070 00:57:02,187 --> 00:57:02,507 Speaker 16: in group. 1071 00:57:02,827 --> 00:57:05,267 Speaker 3: Jay, take us through your path to playing for Otago 1072 00:57:05,347 --> 00:57:08,827 Speaker 3: this season, because I think you're a Hamilton boy initially 1073 00:57:08,907 --> 00:57:11,227 Speaker 3: and you've been playing club rugby and christ Church until 1074 00:57:11,227 --> 00:57:13,427 Speaker 3: a few months ago. So how did you end up 1075 00:57:13,467 --> 00:57:14,547 Speaker 3: in Otango this season? 1076 00:57:15,027 --> 00:57:17,747 Speaker 16: Yeah, so went to school up in St Paul's and Hamilton. 1077 00:57:18,747 --> 00:57:21,787 Speaker 16: After school, went down to the Crusades Academy down in 1078 00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:24,867 Speaker 16: christ Church the last couple of years, and then yeah, 1079 00:57:24,867 --> 00:57:27,627 Speaker 16: I had a conversation with Brownie earlier this season about 1080 00:57:27,627 --> 00:57:29,787 Speaker 16: potentially being able to come down here and get an 1081 00:57:29,787 --> 00:57:32,947 Speaker 16: opportunity here. So yeah, jumped at the opportunity to come 1082 00:57:32,987 --> 00:57:35,027 Speaker 16: down and it's worked out pretty well so fast so 1083 00:57:35,027 --> 00:57:36,867 Speaker 16: I'm pretty stoked, to be honest. 1084 00:57:36,867 --> 00:57:38,867 Speaker 3: Just playing Canterbury in the final of this afternoon make 1085 00:57:38,867 --> 00:57:41,307 Speaker 3: it a little bit more special given you've spent a 1086 00:57:41,307 --> 00:57:42,347 Speaker 3: fair bit of time there now. 1087 00:57:42,707 --> 00:57:42,907 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1088 00:57:42,987 --> 00:57:44,867 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean obviously got a few few mates and 1089 00:57:44,947 --> 00:57:48,067 Speaker 16: around the team, But for us it's obviously just another 1090 00:57:48,147 --> 00:57:50,307 Speaker 16: game and another opportunity to go out there and do 1091 00:57:50,387 --> 00:57:51,147 Speaker 16: our people proud. 1092 00:57:51,587 --> 00:57:53,467 Speaker 3: What did you as a team learn from the Shield 1093 00:57:53,547 --> 00:57:55,427 Speaker 3: Challenge a few weeks ago where you took the log 1094 00:57:55,467 --> 00:57:57,987 Speaker 3: the wood and beat canterbrou on that afternoon. What did 1095 00:57:58,027 --> 00:57:59,507 Speaker 3: you learn about yourselves that day? 1096 00:57:59,707 --> 00:58:01,907 Speaker 15: I think obviously that first aft for us is pretty tough. 1097 00:58:02,147 --> 00:58:04,547 Speaker 16: Probably struggled a little bit to get into the game, 1098 00:58:04,667 --> 00:58:06,827 Speaker 16: so come into this game, it's just sort of stacking 1099 00:58:06,827 --> 00:58:10,027 Speaker 16: those little moments or to lead to a bitter successful team. 1100 00:58:10,187 --> 00:58:13,667 Speaker 3: Would you describe that Rainfilly Shield Challenge as a turning point? 1101 00:58:13,747 --> 00:58:15,627 Speaker 3: You've had a very good season of course to that point, 1102 00:58:15,667 --> 00:58:18,707 Speaker 3: but did it elevate in terms of what the side 1103 00:58:18,747 --> 00:58:20,947 Speaker 3: could do as you head into the final few weeks 1104 00:58:20,947 --> 00:58:21,467 Speaker 3: of the season. 1105 00:58:21,787 --> 00:58:23,467 Speaker 16: Yeah, I think obviously it gave us a lot of 1106 00:58:23,467 --> 00:58:25,707 Speaker 16: belief and not in ourselves, but in our game plan. 1107 00:58:25,827 --> 00:58:27,627 Speaker 15: That if we can speak to that sort of stuff 1108 00:58:27,907 --> 00:58:28,507 Speaker 15: that can work. 1109 00:58:28,587 --> 00:58:31,227 Speaker 16: So yeah, for us, obviously it was a massive turning point, 1110 00:58:31,227 --> 00:58:33,587 Speaker 16: but it's just building on week on week and keep 1111 00:58:33,627 --> 00:58:36,707 Speaker 16: stacking those little moments that'll hopefully lead to our success. 1112 00:58:36,707 --> 00:58:37,907 Speaker 15: Success as some stay. 1113 00:58:38,347 --> 00:58:40,347 Speaker 3: I just want to ask you about the back line 1114 00:58:40,387 --> 00:58:42,947 Speaker 3: and obviously you're part of that. Dylan pledged your cam Miller, 1115 00:58:42,987 --> 00:58:45,627 Speaker 3: that combination you've got going at nine and ten, and 1116 00:58:45,667 --> 00:58:47,707 Speaker 3: how that's developed over the course of the season. What 1117 00:58:47,747 --> 00:58:50,427 Speaker 3: have you learned off those two players and noticed about 1118 00:58:50,427 --> 00:58:53,147 Speaker 3: the way that they've built that crucial nine ten axis 1119 00:58:53,547 --> 00:58:54,307 Speaker 3: over the campaign. 1120 00:58:54,827 --> 00:58:57,467 Speaker 16: I think for both of them obviously really talented footy 1121 00:58:57,467 --> 00:59:00,347 Speaker 16: players themselves, but the connection they've had to be able 1122 00:59:00,387 --> 00:59:03,107 Speaker 16: to start working off them and it's almost like you've 1123 00:59:03,107 --> 00:59:05,507 Speaker 16: built that build that connection about knowing where they're going 1124 00:59:05,547 --> 00:59:08,307 Speaker 16: to be on the field and obviously Pleasure his ability 1125 00:59:08,307 --> 00:59:10,827 Speaker 16: around the rucks and his ability with those box kecks 1126 00:59:10,867 --> 00:59:13,147 Speaker 16: fast as outside backs has been unreal and put us 1127 00:59:13,147 --> 00:59:14,507 Speaker 16: in good positions on the field. 1128 00:59:14,307 --> 00:59:16,907 Speaker 3: Giving you one in Christ won the shield. There does 1129 00:59:17,067 --> 00:59:19,747 Speaker 3: heading back to Canterbury hold any fears further sign you 1130 00:59:19,747 --> 00:59:22,747 Speaker 3: know you've already done it so far this season, Do 1131 00:59:22,787 --> 00:59:24,427 Speaker 3: you feel like you can go and do it again? 1132 00:59:24,867 --> 00:59:27,307 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, obviously the belief in this group is unreal, 1133 00:59:27,467 --> 00:59:29,427 Speaker 16: Like we've always had that belief in the matter where 1134 00:59:29,427 --> 00:59:31,547 Speaker 16: we are, who we're playing, that we've got the ability 1135 00:59:31,587 --> 00:59:33,107 Speaker 16: and the game plan to get the job done. So 1136 00:59:33,147 --> 00:59:35,827 Speaker 16: for us, again, it's just just another game on Saturday. 1137 00:59:35,827 --> 00:59:37,707 Speaker 16: If we can do do our things right then it 1138 00:59:37,707 --> 00:59:39,587 Speaker 16: will hopefully set us up well to succeed. 1139 00:59:39,827 --> 00:59:41,427 Speaker 3: What are those keys that you need to get right 1140 00:59:41,467 --> 00:59:42,907 Speaker 3: against Canterbury this afternoon? 1141 00:59:43,267 --> 00:59:44,947 Speaker 16: For us, just playing the right ends of the field, 1142 00:59:45,187 --> 00:59:48,067 Speaker 16: not trying to overplay our hand, especially with the team 1143 00:59:48,107 --> 00:59:50,067 Speaker 16: like Cannery, they're so good when they get in that 1144 00:59:50,107 --> 00:59:52,347 Speaker 16: twenty two areas. So for us year, just playing on 1145 00:59:52,387 --> 00:59:53,987 Speaker 16: the right ends of the field and making sure that 1146 00:59:53,987 --> 00:59:55,307 Speaker 16: we're looking after our own ball. 1147 00:59:55,507 --> 00:59:58,307 Speaker 3: Jay Broomfield, Otago wing with us on news talks, you'd 1148 00:59:58,307 --> 01:00:00,947 Speaker 3: be what would it mean to you to win the NPC. 1149 01:00:01,307 --> 01:00:04,587 Speaker 15: Oh, it'd be massive. I mean this is my first 1150 01:00:04,667 --> 01:00:05,267 Speaker 15: year in the team. 1151 01:00:05,467 --> 01:00:07,707 Speaker 16: We're also fairst year at this level and there's not 1152 01:00:07,747 --> 01:00:09,627 Speaker 16: many people that get the opportunity to win. 1153 01:00:10,147 --> 01:00:13,307 Speaker 15: Win a final, So for us it's just yeah, it's massive. 1154 01:00:13,347 --> 01:00:16,307 Speaker 16: It's a little bit nervous, but again just excited for 1155 01:00:16,307 --> 01:00:18,107 Speaker 16: the opportunity because it doesn't come around that often. 1156 01:00:18,187 --> 01:00:19,987 Speaker 3: And what do you see is Canterbury strengths for the 1157 01:00:20,027 --> 01:00:21,027 Speaker 3: final this afternoon. 1158 01:00:21,587 --> 01:00:23,787 Speaker 16: Yeah, obviously they're pretty structured in the way they play 1159 01:00:23,827 --> 01:00:26,587 Speaker 16: their foot, they know their identity, they've got a strong pack. 1160 01:00:26,667 --> 01:00:29,347 Speaker 16: But again, back for us, it's just making sure that 1161 01:00:29,347 --> 01:00:31,387 Speaker 16: we do our things right and making sure that we 1162 01:00:31,387 --> 01:00:33,587 Speaker 16: stick to our game plan that will hopefully leave for 1163 01:00:33,627 --> 01:00:34,307 Speaker 16: our success. 1164 01:00:34,507 --> 01:00:36,787 Speaker 3: I'm sure you've been obviously around and needing this week 1165 01:00:36,867 --> 01:00:38,987 Speaker 3: with Scott round. It's to sold out crowd and christ 1166 01:00:39,387 --> 01:00:41,627 Speaker 3: I'm guessing there's going to be a fair few locals 1167 01:00:41,827 --> 01:00:43,827 Speaker 3: are heading up to follow you and watch the final, 1168 01:00:43,907 --> 01:00:46,067 Speaker 3: so you'll have some support in the stands. I've got 1169 01:00:46,067 --> 01:00:48,067 Speaker 3: no doubt about that. That must be pretty special. 1170 01:00:48,387 --> 01:00:50,547 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, obviously that last couple of weeks we've 1171 01:00:50,587 --> 01:00:52,387 Speaker 16: had some one real support and they've been that sixteenth 1172 01:00:52,467 --> 01:00:54,787 Speaker 16: man on the field for us. So again hopefully this 1173 01:00:54,827 --> 01:00:57,107 Speaker 16: week we can get a good number of those supporters 1174 01:00:57,107 --> 01:00:58,747 Speaker 16: out and be able to hear them in the stands 1175 01:00:58,747 --> 01:01:00,267 Speaker 16: because they've been getting us over the line the last 1176 01:01:00,307 --> 01:01:02,427 Speaker 16: few weeks, so hopefully we can get that again. 1177 01:01:02,547 --> 01:01:05,147 Speaker 3: Good man, Jay, appreciate your time with us here on 1178 01:01:05,227 --> 01:01:07,747 Speaker 3: news talks. It'd be good luck this afternoon go well. 1179 01:01:08,427 --> 01:01:12,147 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you Jay Brimfield, Otago. When joining us 1180 01:01:12,187 --> 01:01:14,667 Speaker 3: so on news talk, zib I got some time for 1181 01:01:15,307 --> 01:01:17,427 Speaker 3: a few of your calls or texts. Who have you 1182 01:01:17,467 --> 01:01:21,827 Speaker 3: got in this afternoon's final Canterbury or Otago? Who wins? 1183 01:01:21,947 --> 01:01:25,347 Speaker 3: And y oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty ninety two 1184 01:01:25,467 --> 01:01:29,627 Speaker 3: ninety two for a tis message Otago fans, what chance 1185 01:01:29,667 --> 01:01:33,307 Speaker 3: have you got of heading up to Canterbury and upsetting 1186 01:01:33,307 --> 01:01:35,707 Speaker 3: the fearwell to Apollo Project Stadium. And I don't think 1187 01:01:35,707 --> 01:01:37,227 Speaker 3: there's so many locals that'll be sad to see the 1188 01:01:37,227 --> 01:01:40,307 Speaker 3: back of it. But what chance do you give yourself 1189 01:01:40,307 --> 01:01:44,187 Speaker 3: of going up this afternoon? Because I think i've I 1190 01:01:44,227 --> 01:01:46,987 Speaker 3: think Otago been the form team in the closing weeks 1191 01:01:46,987 --> 01:01:50,147 Speaker 3: of the competition. They don't have the home advantage necessarily, 1192 01:01:50,187 --> 01:01:52,267 Speaker 3: but the way that they're played in the last couple 1193 01:01:52,347 --> 01:01:55,307 Speaker 3: of weeks, the close round quarter final against Waikatso but 1194 01:01:55,347 --> 01:01:58,587 Speaker 3: I thought they were very, very effective last week at 1195 01:01:58,587 --> 01:02:01,827 Speaker 3: Dismantling Bay of Plenty and a game that I thought 1196 01:02:01,907 --> 01:02:06,067 Speaker 3: was going to be a toss up game Otago just 1197 01:02:06,067 --> 01:02:10,267 Speaker 3: blow away Bay of plenty? Who wins and why this afternoon? 1198 01:02:10,307 --> 01:02:13,587 Speaker 3: And neutral fans, if you're not from Otago or Canterbury, 1199 01:02:15,467 --> 01:02:17,307 Speaker 3: this is always a dangerous question. But who would you 1200 01:02:17,547 --> 01:02:20,067 Speaker 3: rather see win this afternoon? 1201 01:02:20,107 --> 01:02:20,227 Speaker 2: Oh? 1202 01:02:20,267 --> 01:02:23,507 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two for 1203 01:02:23,707 --> 01:02:27,267 Speaker 3: a text message? In some ways I think it would 1204 01:02:27,267 --> 01:02:29,547 Speaker 3: probably mean a little bit more to Otago. We talked 1205 01:02:29,547 --> 01:02:32,587 Speaker 3: to Brendan Laney on Sports Talk last night about it, 1206 01:02:32,627 --> 01:02:37,267 Speaker 3: and it's twenty seven years today to the day that 1207 01:02:37,347 --> 01:02:42,347 Speaker 3: they last won an NPC final. Twenty seven years they 1208 01:02:42,427 --> 01:02:45,147 Speaker 3: beat Wakato in that game forty nine to twenty. Brendan 1209 01:02:45,227 --> 01:02:49,707 Speaker 3: Laney Chainsaw scored a couple of tries that afternoon. It's 1210 01:02:49,747 --> 01:02:52,707 Speaker 3: been a long time waiting for Otago fans to return 1211 01:02:52,787 --> 01:02:56,787 Speaker 3: to the top of the NPC mantle. They got to 1212 01:02:56,827 --> 01:02:59,227 Speaker 3: a final in two thousand and five, were beaten by 1213 01:02:59,267 --> 01:03:03,427 Speaker 3: Auckland on that occasion Canterbury. Their wait hasn't been as 1214 01:03:03,507 --> 01:03:06,227 Speaker 3: long if you take out all the Super Rugby things. 1215 01:03:06,187 --> 01:03:09,467 Speaker 3: The last title came in twenty seventeen. As we discussed 1216 01:03:09,467 --> 01:03:13,707 Speaker 3: with Nani Punavi there a bit earlier on, it didn't 1217 01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:16,227 Speaker 3: feel quite as long as it probably has been because 1218 01:03:16,267 --> 01:03:18,667 Speaker 3: they had that incredible run for a number of years 1219 01:03:18,707 --> 01:03:21,627 Speaker 3: with a one what eight titles in a decade or 1220 01:03:21,667 --> 01:03:24,547 Speaker 3: something ridiculous like that. But it has been a long 1221 01:03:24,587 --> 01:03:27,347 Speaker 3: wait for Canterbury, and I know that they've underlined a 1222 01:03:27,387 --> 01:03:29,707 Speaker 3: lot of that history this afternoon as they prepare for 1223 01:03:29,747 --> 01:03:35,827 Speaker 3: that Apollo Project Stadium Farewell Lancaster Park. Obviously none of 1224 01:03:35,827 --> 01:03:38,347 Speaker 3: the current crop of players have played at that venue, 1225 01:03:38,347 --> 01:03:41,307 Speaker 3: but they went near this week to connect with that ground, 1226 01:03:41,347 --> 01:03:44,107 Speaker 3: to learn a bit about the history as they try 1227 01:03:44,147 --> 01:03:48,227 Speaker 3: and set their own history this weekend. So who wins 1228 01:03:48,267 --> 01:03:50,827 Speaker 3: and why this afternoon? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty 1229 01:03:50,947 --> 01:03:53,907 Speaker 3: nine two ninety two for a text message. I think 1230 01:03:53,947 --> 01:03:57,587 Speaker 3: Canterbury naturally go in as the favorites for this final 1231 01:03:57,627 --> 01:04:00,507 Speaker 3: because of the home advantage and the fact that their 1232 01:04:00,587 --> 01:04:04,867 Speaker 3: supporters should outnumber the Otaga fans in the stands. But 1233 01:04:04,907 --> 01:04:08,307 Speaker 3: from what I'm hearing around the traps and as we 1234 01:04:08,347 --> 01:04:11,267 Speaker 3: were discussing there with Jay before, I think there are 1235 01:04:11,307 --> 01:04:15,867 Speaker 3: a few convoys heading up from Dunedin from the Otago 1236 01:04:15,947 --> 01:04:19,947 Speaker 3: surrounds to Apollo Project Stadium this afternoon, making a long 1237 01:04:19,987 --> 01:04:21,867 Speaker 3: weekend of it, or it's certainly making a day of it. 1238 01:04:23,147 --> 01:04:24,987 Speaker 3: If you're on the way to the game and coming 1239 01:04:25,067 --> 01:04:26,787 Speaker 3: up from Denean, would love to hear from you. Oh, 1240 01:04:26,867 --> 01:04:29,347 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number nine 1241 01:04:29,427 --> 01:04:33,787 Speaker 3: two nine two for the text message. I know there 1242 01:04:33,827 --> 01:04:36,187 Speaker 3: was a bit of a gathering as well. One of 1243 01:04:35,947 --> 01:04:42,987 Speaker 3: the vintage Jersey operators that I know of Instagram, Boothy 1244 01:04:43,067 --> 01:04:46,027 Speaker 3: Dylan Booth Boothy's Rugby Relics is his name, was setting 1245 01:04:46,067 --> 01:04:48,947 Speaker 3: up a bit of a Otago meeting point in christ 1246 01:04:48,987 --> 01:04:50,947 Speaker 3: Huge at Tower Junction. I think there was about half 1247 01:04:50,987 --> 01:04:54,867 Speaker 3: past two, so I'm sure there'll be a few fans 1248 01:04:54,907 --> 01:04:57,827 Speaker 3: there looking to quench their thirst before they march on 1249 01:04:57,867 --> 01:05:02,307 Speaker 3: to the stadium for the four o'clock kickoff. One text 1250 01:05:02,307 --> 01:05:06,707 Speaker 3: to says this and put simply Otago with my multiple 1251 01:05:06,747 --> 01:05:10,787 Speaker 3: a's and multiple o's, thank you very much for the 1252 01:05:10,827 --> 01:05:13,307 Speaker 3: text this afternoon. It feels like the Neutrals might well 1253 01:05:13,347 --> 01:05:16,107 Speaker 3: be on this side. I think the rejuvenation this year 1254 01:05:16,147 --> 01:05:18,547 Speaker 3: in the NPC, and I know people will say it's 1255 01:05:18,587 --> 01:05:21,187 Speaker 3: always been good, but this year feels like it's been 1256 01:05:21,627 --> 01:05:26,587 Speaker 3: an NPC for the ages, the ran fairly shield changing hands. 1257 01:05:26,707 --> 01:05:28,987 Speaker 3: What will be up to five different teams I think 1258 01:05:29,067 --> 01:05:32,467 Speaker 3: had their hands on it at one point. This season, 1259 01:05:33,507 --> 01:05:38,147 Speaker 3: the quality of games right throughout has been really, really high. 1260 01:05:38,267 --> 01:05:40,227 Speaker 3: We had the permutations of who was going to make 1261 01:05:40,267 --> 01:05:46,187 Speaker 3: the playoffs right until the last weekend. This to me 1262 01:05:46,347 --> 01:05:50,347 Speaker 3: has set the scene for the NPC and it feels 1263 01:05:50,347 --> 01:05:54,107 Speaker 3: like it's been a while since we've had this. Last 1264 01:05:54,187 --> 01:05:55,947 Speaker 3: year was very good, Wellington Bay had plenty in a 1265 01:05:55,987 --> 01:05:58,587 Speaker 3: thrilling final, but the quality of rugby and I guess 1266 01:05:58,587 --> 01:06:03,267 Speaker 3: the uncertain nature of it all this year has really 1267 01:06:03,307 --> 01:06:06,187 Speaker 3: been entertaining and hopefully they've finally struck on the right 1268 01:06:06,387 --> 01:06:09,987 Speaker 3: after that Premiership Championship thing they tried to run for 1269 01:06:10,027 --> 01:06:13,147 Speaker 3: about a decade that everyone was just left confused by that, 1270 01:06:13,147 --> 01:06:16,227 Speaker 3: they finally struck on an idea that is going to 1271 01:06:16,227 --> 01:06:19,987 Speaker 3: set the NPC up for long term success. The broadcast 1272 01:06:19,987 --> 01:06:22,627 Speaker 3: TV broadcast deal changes after this year. It's going to 1273 01:06:22,627 --> 01:06:24,947 Speaker 3: be on TV and ZET a lot more from next year. 1274 01:06:24,987 --> 01:06:26,587 Speaker 3: More fans are going to be able to see that. 1275 01:06:26,707 --> 01:06:31,267 Speaker 3: So I think that's a positive eight hundred eighty ten 1276 01:06:31,347 --> 01:06:33,667 Speaker 3: eighty nine two nine two for a text message one 1277 01:06:33,707 --> 01:06:39,147 Speaker 3: textas is Canterbury when the game is when the game 1278 01:06:39,267 --> 01:06:41,227 Speaker 3: due to such an important last game, possibly that stadium 1279 01:06:41,227 --> 01:06:44,227 Speaker 3: hour advantage will be nothing, as there will be plenty 1280 01:06:44,227 --> 01:06:48,507 Speaker 3: of support for both sides. Certainly, what I'm hearing, I 1281 01:06:48,507 --> 01:06:50,547 Speaker 3: mean we're mentioning to see the numbers once we get 1282 01:06:50,587 --> 01:06:53,427 Speaker 3: to kick off four o'clock and we'll talk to Nick Buley, 1283 01:06:53,427 --> 01:06:55,987 Speaker 3: who's our gold Sport match commentator next hour about this 1284 01:06:56,067 --> 01:06:58,467 Speaker 3: as well as that the crowd starts to filter into 1285 01:06:58,987 --> 01:07:03,907 Speaker 3: a Polo Project stadium. What the splitters, whether O target 1286 01:07:03,907 --> 01:07:06,267 Speaker 3: fans have made that trip up the Blue and Gold 1287 01:07:07,067 --> 01:07:11,947 Speaker 3: in the stands O eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine 1288 01:07:12,027 --> 01:07:14,547 Speaker 3: two nine two this afternoon, Who are you supporting in 1289 01:07:14,587 --> 01:07:18,507 Speaker 3: the NPC final and why not? Often canabrig gets the 1290 01:07:18,547 --> 01:07:21,307 Speaker 3: neutral support I find on the text line that's usually 1291 01:07:21,827 --> 01:07:24,587 Speaker 3: anyone but canniby. That's fair enough, Oh eight hundred eighty 1292 01:07:24,587 --> 01:07:27,467 Speaker 3: ten eighty nine two nine two for a text message. 1293 01:07:27,507 --> 01:07:29,507 Speaker 3: I think the other thing from the NPC this season 1294 01:07:29,507 --> 01:07:31,747 Speaker 3: has been the quality of young players that have come through, 1295 01:07:33,787 --> 01:07:35,867 Speaker 3: and that happens every year. Players get tossed up. But 1296 01:07:35,907 --> 01:07:39,267 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would have expected, for example, Dylan 1297 01:07:39,307 --> 01:07:43,427 Speaker 3: Pledger to have the season that he did for Otago 1298 01:07:46,027 --> 01:07:47,867 Speaker 3: two or three months ago he had just come off 1299 01:07:47,907 --> 01:07:52,267 Speaker 3: that under twenties campaign and then he was seriously given 1300 01:07:52,307 --> 01:07:55,547 Speaker 3: his form was rightfully being considered as a player for 1301 01:07:55,547 --> 01:07:59,147 Speaker 3: the All Blacks End Tour. I can't think too many 1302 01:07:59,147 --> 01:08:01,787 Speaker 3: examples of that in recent times. That's been a storyline 1303 01:08:01,787 --> 01:08:03,947 Speaker 3: out of the NPC. He became a must watch player. 1304 01:08:05,547 --> 01:08:07,667 Speaker 3: Tune at the Gotar game. See what Dylan pledges doing. 1305 01:08:07,707 --> 01:08:13,707 Speaker 3: Lucas Casey another one like him, continued growth of Josh Jacom. 1306 01:08:13,747 --> 01:08:15,867 Speaker 3: I think it's just thrown up all sorts of storylines 1307 01:08:16,307 --> 01:08:21,227 Speaker 3: other season and let's hope it's fitting finale to a 1308 01:08:21,267 --> 01:08:23,907 Speaker 3: great MPC season. When now the final kicks off this 1309 01:08:23,947 --> 01:08:29,147 Speaker 3: afternoon at four pm. Nick Bewley will have the call 1310 01:08:29,187 --> 01:08:32,307 Speaker 3: on gold Spot and iHeartRadio. Matt Todd alongside Craig Kurt 1311 01:08:32,387 --> 01:08:36,667 Speaker 3: Running Touch will chat with Nick. Next hour. You're on 1312 01:08:36,747 --> 01:08:43,827 Speaker 3: News Talk ZIBB Devin with this ABC anyone but Canterbury. 1313 01:08:43,947 --> 01:08:45,707 Speaker 3: I've got Readding Black through my veins, Devin, But I 1314 01:08:45,747 --> 01:08:49,587 Speaker 3: do take your point. I accept that sometimes we've got 1315 01:08:49,627 --> 01:08:53,067 Speaker 3: to play the outsider Canterbury. Sometimes you've got to be 1316 01:08:53,067 --> 01:08:55,587 Speaker 3: the team that everyone hates, and that is something that 1317 01:08:55,627 --> 01:08:59,027 Speaker 3: falls on Canterbury quite a lot. I fear twenty two 1318 01:08:59,067 --> 01:09:01,947 Speaker 3: and a bit away from two used Talk ZIBB Adam 1319 01:09:01,947 --> 01:09:04,187 Speaker 3: Peacock on the way after this we'll check in and 1320 01:09:04,187 --> 01:09:07,827 Speaker 3: see what's happening in Australia Sport right after this on 1321 01:09:07,867 --> 01:09:08,867 Speaker 3: news Talk ZBB. 1322 01:09:09,427 --> 01:09:14,347 Speaker 1: It's more than just a game Weekend Sports with GJ. Guggos, 1323 01:09:14,427 --> 01:09:17,747 Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder News DOGSB. 1324 01:09:18,947 --> 01:09:22,267 Speaker 3: Twenty way from two on news Talk zibby plenty of 1325 01:09:22,307 --> 01:09:25,347 Speaker 3: texts flooding in. They're largely supporting a tag. I think 1326 01:09:25,387 --> 01:09:28,787 Speaker 3: it's fair to say Mark from christ Church with us 1327 01:09:28,827 --> 01:09:32,907 Speaker 3: high Elliott always love the anti anti Canterbury fluff. Go 1328 01:09:33,027 --> 01:09:35,547 Speaker 3: the Red and Blacks. Cheers Mark, Nice to hear from you. 1329 01:09:36,107 --> 01:09:40,107 Speaker 3: Another one I'm supporting Otago is that a lesser of 1330 01:09:40,187 --> 01:09:43,947 Speaker 3: two evils? Thank you very much, Rob with this high 1331 01:09:43,987 --> 01:09:47,147 Speaker 3: great show go Otago. Love your exciting commentaries. Cheer Rob, 1332 01:09:47,267 --> 01:09:49,307 Speaker 3: Cheers Rob. That's very nice, Rob, Thank you very much. 1333 01:09:50,867 --> 01:09:54,467 Speaker 3: This is from pat Hi. I think Otago will win 1334 01:09:54,747 --> 01:10:00,107 Speaker 3: for four reasons the numbers nine, ten, seven and fifteen. 1335 01:10:01,067 --> 01:10:03,027 Speaker 3: I think they could all be in the All Blacks now, 1336 01:10:03,227 --> 01:10:05,387 Speaker 3: not in years to Come watch and tell me I'm wrong, 1337 01:10:05,467 --> 01:10:12,467 Speaker 3: cheers Pat. So that's Pledger, Miller, Casey, and I assume Gilbert. 1338 01:10:14,867 --> 01:10:16,987 Speaker 3: I think Gilbert or Gilbert is definitely heading overseas to 1339 01:10:17,027 --> 01:10:19,667 Speaker 3: Connitt in Ireland at the end of the season. But 1340 01:10:20,347 --> 01:10:26,307 Speaker 3: the three that you mentioned there, Pledger, Miller and Casey, 1341 01:10:26,387 --> 01:10:29,747 Speaker 3: I think are all capable of being All Blacks down 1342 01:10:29,787 --> 01:10:32,067 Speaker 3: the track. I mean, Pledger, I would have taken at 1343 01:10:32,147 --> 01:10:36,067 Speaker 3: least on the All Blacks fifteen tour this year. Thanks Pat, 1344 01:10:36,147 --> 01:10:39,347 Speaker 3: nice text, Hi otarger to win down here. We all 1345 01:10:39,347 --> 01:10:41,547 Speaker 3: down here and need another glory day like nineteen ninety eight. 1346 01:10:41,547 --> 01:10:43,707 Speaker 3: Our team means so much to us and just lifts 1347 01:10:43,747 --> 01:10:46,027 Speaker 3: the spirits of the province. We've got so much better 1348 01:10:46,027 --> 01:10:48,067 Speaker 3: with each game and strengthen all positions with the bench 1349 01:10:48,107 --> 01:10:51,147 Speaker 3: to match. Hopefully injuries yellow recards don't play a part 1350 01:10:51,147 --> 01:10:53,747 Speaker 3: and spoil a great game too, right, Thanks very much 1351 01:10:53,787 --> 01:10:56,347 Speaker 3: for the text this afternoon, Let's go to the lines afternoon, Graham, 1352 01:10:56,387 --> 01:10:58,107 Speaker 3: how are you very good? 1353 01:10:58,347 --> 01:11:02,587 Speaker 2: Great day to hear. I know the whole country thinks 1354 01:11:02,587 --> 01:11:04,667 Speaker 2: the target is going to different wants them to but 1355 01:11:05,627 --> 01:11:08,947 Speaker 2: and that's part of the course. But you know, I'm confident, 1356 01:11:08,987 --> 01:11:11,867 Speaker 2: Tom Christie, you know the last game, I leave the 1357 01:11:11,867 --> 01:11:13,387 Speaker 2: Cannavary boys out to victory. 1358 01:11:14,467 --> 01:11:14,667 Speaker 1: You know. 1359 01:11:14,667 --> 01:11:18,107 Speaker 2: He took the shield offers Canterby, you know, and let 1360 01:11:18,107 --> 01:11:21,307 Speaker 2: themselves down in the last fifteen in that game, and 1361 01:11:21,667 --> 01:11:25,107 Speaker 2: a better side than that, And yeah, I ready believe that. 1362 01:11:25,747 --> 01:11:27,627 Speaker 2: But it's going to be a great game. 1363 01:11:27,587 --> 01:11:30,547 Speaker 5: Now out you're hitting a long grind of course. 1364 01:11:30,627 --> 01:11:34,067 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had a few days in hospital, so say, 1365 01:11:34,147 --> 01:11:36,707 Speaker 2: oh yeah, it was it six days. So I got 1366 01:11:36,747 --> 01:11:39,227 Speaker 2: out a couple of days ago, so very relieved and 1367 01:11:39,307 --> 01:11:44,347 Speaker 2: pleased to be back walking around christ Church and going 1368 01:11:44,387 --> 01:11:47,187 Speaker 2: to the game. Yes, but yeah, so that was a 1369 01:11:47,187 --> 01:11:49,947 Speaker 2: bit of a bit of a handicap last weekend. 1370 01:11:50,067 --> 01:11:51,907 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear that, but I hope you're better 1371 01:11:51,947 --> 01:11:54,427 Speaker 3: and can enjoy the finals afternoon, you know. 1372 01:11:54,627 --> 01:11:57,187 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to it and go Canterbury. 1373 01:11:57,347 --> 01:11:59,667 Speaker 3: Good man, Thanks grab nice to catch up. Let's go 1374 01:11:59,707 --> 01:12:03,627 Speaker 3: to Chris afternoon. Chris good how are you going yourself? 1375 01:12:03,827 --> 01:12:07,627 Speaker 3: Which way is the final guy this afternoon? Oh well, 1376 01:12:07,667 --> 01:12:08,627 Speaker 3: I'm not really bothered. 1377 01:12:08,707 --> 01:12:11,267 Speaker 17: I'm a Canterbury supporter, but as long as it stays 1378 01:12:11,267 --> 01:12:12,907 Speaker 17: in the South Island, I'm quite happy. 1379 01:12:12,987 --> 01:12:14,107 Speaker 3: It's a win win scenario. 1380 01:12:15,387 --> 01:12:17,187 Speaker 17: It is, Yeah, I can't lose. And I'm taking my 1381 01:12:17,227 --> 01:12:19,067 Speaker 17: wife with me and she's the targo, so one of 1382 01:12:19,107 --> 01:12:19,507 Speaker 17: us will one. 1383 01:12:19,587 --> 01:12:20,067 Speaker 7: Oh there you go. 1384 01:12:20,147 --> 01:12:22,547 Speaker 3: So you've both got the Cannabury and Otago jerseys on if. 1385 01:12:22,387 --> 01:12:26,987 Speaker 17: You Oh no, we haven't got any jerseys or anything 1386 01:12:27,027 --> 01:12:29,827 Speaker 17: like that. But we're one of the silent majority in 1387 01:12:29,867 --> 01:12:31,507 Speaker 17: the background that's just cheering. 1388 01:12:31,267 --> 01:12:31,827 Speaker 9: Them all the way. 1389 01:12:32,107 --> 01:12:34,747 Speaker 3: Good man. We well hopefully with it. Sounds like it's good. 1390 01:12:34,747 --> 01:12:36,107 Speaker 3: We're all ready to go for kickoff. 1391 01:12:37,147 --> 01:12:39,307 Speaker 17: Oh it's a beautiful christ Which day. It's the best 1392 01:12:39,347 --> 01:12:40,067 Speaker 17: place in the world. 1393 01:12:40,067 --> 01:12:40,267 Speaker 7: Mate. 1394 01:12:40,427 --> 01:12:43,267 Speaker 3: I couldn't disagree with that. Chris. Nice to hear from you. 1395 01:12:43,707 --> 01:12:47,267 Speaker 3: Look forward to the game and enjoy with you and 1396 01:12:48,187 --> 01:12:50,987 Speaker 3: your wife if it's a great occasion. I'm sure it 1397 01:12:51,067 --> 01:12:53,867 Speaker 3: is going to be nice to hear from you this afternoon. Chris. 1398 01:12:53,947 --> 01:12:55,787 Speaker 3: Last text on this one for the time being says 1399 01:12:55,827 --> 01:13:01,307 Speaker 3: I'm supporting Canterbury Revenge for the Steamers game. Thank you 1400 01:13:01,387 --> 01:13:02,907 Speaker 3: very much. We'll keep the text line open for the 1401 01:13:02,907 --> 01:13:04,507 Speaker 3: time being. Nine two down too, might get to a 1402 01:13:04,507 --> 01:13:07,627 Speaker 3: few more after we chat too. Adam Peacock, who's standing 1403 01:13:07,667 --> 01:13:11,627 Speaker 3: by from across the Tasman let's talk Australian sport as 1404 01:13:11,667 --> 01:13:15,147 Speaker 3: we do around this time every Saturday afternoon. Adam plenty 1405 01:13:15,187 --> 01:13:17,667 Speaker 3: to get stuck into as always, first and foremost, how 1406 01:13:17,747 --> 01:13:17,907 Speaker 3: are you? 1407 01:13:18,427 --> 01:13:18,747 Speaker 7: How are you? 1408 01:13:18,827 --> 01:13:19,027 Speaker 15: Vane? 1409 01:13:19,227 --> 01:13:22,587 Speaker 3: Very well, indeed very well well. The Pacific Championships in 1410 01:13:22,267 --> 01:13:25,587 Speaker 3: the nrral the rugby league in full swing. One not 1411 01:13:25,707 --> 01:13:29,507 Speaker 3: matter that Australia is over in London because some more 1412 01:13:29,587 --> 01:13:34,387 Speaker 3: and Tonga seem to have overtaken rugby league in Australia. 1413 01:13:34,667 --> 01:13:37,867 Speaker 10: Well, I will tomorrow afternoon up up at sun for 1414 01:13:38,067 --> 01:13:42,147 Speaker 10: it will be extraordinary scenes with forty five sixty thousand 1415 01:13:42,187 --> 01:13:44,987 Speaker 10: people there. So I had no open training sessions this 1416 01:13:45,067 --> 01:13:47,907 Speaker 10: week in Logan, which is just south of Brisbane, and 1417 01:13:47,947 --> 01:13:51,427 Speaker 10: there are thousands of people there. It's awesome that they're 1418 01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:57,547 Speaker 10: a huge diaspa in Southeast Queensland summer and Tongan expatriots 1419 01:13:57,787 --> 01:13:59,747 Speaker 10: and they're all getting behind it because they all love 1420 01:13:59,787 --> 01:14:02,867 Speaker 10: their footy and they've got so many big name players. 1421 01:14:02,867 --> 01:14:04,267 Speaker 10: I mean you have a look at the two forward 1422 01:14:04,267 --> 01:14:07,587 Speaker 10: packs just to set the prop splaceicarly going out each other, 1423 01:14:07,667 --> 01:14:09,987 Speaker 10: and then you look at the third ends Junior Paulow 1424 01:14:10,067 --> 01:14:14,387 Speaker 10: and Jason toal Malolo. It's it's pain haa Stefan Ta Kamano. 1425 01:14:14,507 --> 01:14:17,387 Speaker 10: There's so many great players that are going to rip 1426 01:14:17,387 --> 01:14:19,587 Speaker 10: into each other and it'll be spectaclely more ways than one. 1427 01:14:19,747 --> 01:14:22,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, and origin still remains I guess that the pinnacle 1428 01:14:23,027 --> 01:14:24,667 Speaker 3: for rugby league. But when you've got players that are 1429 01:14:24,667 --> 01:14:28,827 Speaker 3: playing both like this and representing their country and playing, 1430 01:14:28,907 --> 01:14:32,547 Speaker 3: you know, for the Pacific Islands, the emotions there, the 1431 01:14:32,587 --> 01:14:35,107 Speaker 3: passions there, and boy they delivered. We saw that last 1432 01:14:35,147 --> 01:14:37,507 Speaker 3: week in the kiwis in some organ I'm sure it's 1433 01:14:37,507 --> 01:14:41,187 Speaker 3: going to be the same tomorrow afternoon, Yeah, exactly. 1434 01:14:41,227 --> 01:14:44,427 Speaker 10: And a throw forward for the Rugby League World Cup 1435 01:14:45,227 --> 01:14:47,067 Speaker 10: next year, I think it is that if you want 1436 01:14:47,067 --> 01:14:50,187 Speaker 10: a World Cup, you need more than probably three nations 1437 01:14:50,187 --> 01:14:53,907 Speaker 10: and then some lowly ranked nation making the semi finals 1438 01:14:53,907 --> 01:14:55,027 Speaker 10: and just making up the numbers. 1439 01:14:55,067 --> 01:14:55,547 Speaker 11: Now with some. 1440 01:14:55,587 --> 01:15:00,067 Speaker 10: Oatma, Pigi's ever improving as well. They've got that attachment 1441 01:15:00,067 --> 01:15:03,707 Speaker 10: to some great rugby players, and then Australia, England, New 1442 01:15:03,787 --> 01:15:07,707 Speaker 10: Zealand the established ones. Now that the NRL is going 1443 01:15:07,707 --> 01:15:10,667 Speaker 10: to go into PMG, that's going to improve over the years. Yeah, 1444 01:15:10,747 --> 01:15:12,467 Speaker 10: and now you're talking about a World Cup with some 1445 01:15:12,587 --> 01:15:16,427 Speaker 10: intrigue beyond the semi finals and the good thing for 1446 01:15:16,507 --> 01:15:20,427 Speaker 10: the competition, adds another layer for everyone to get excited about. 1447 01:15:20,547 --> 01:15:23,987 Speaker 10: Fill some holes on the calendar worthy ones as well. 1448 01:15:24,027 --> 01:15:27,267 Speaker 10: So yeah, there's not many. There's not many downsides to 1449 01:15:27,587 --> 01:15:29,387 Speaker 10: what's going on at the moment with that in that. 1450 01:15:29,307 --> 01:15:32,787 Speaker 3: Regard, certainly isn't Moody Valley. I'm sure we'll be jumping 1451 01:15:33,347 --> 01:15:37,187 Speaker 3: later today the cox plates going on. Does I still 1452 01:15:37,187 --> 01:15:39,307 Speaker 3: hold the plot prior to place? I guess in the 1453 01:15:39,307 --> 01:15:40,707 Speaker 3: build up to the Melbourne Cup. 1454 01:15:41,747 --> 01:15:44,587 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's always regarded as the best wait for h 1455 01:15:45,227 --> 01:15:50,107 Speaker 10: race in Australia and now this year isn't a cracking edition, 1456 01:15:50,267 --> 01:15:51,787 Speaker 10: but it still got to be a Sestina who won 1457 01:15:51,787 --> 01:15:54,307 Speaker 10: the race by seven links last year, so it's still 1458 01:15:54,347 --> 01:15:57,307 Speaker 10: got some quality. Antino near enough to favorite with her 1459 01:15:57,747 --> 01:16:00,947 Speaker 10: as well. But yeah, just the edge has been taken 1460 01:16:00,987 --> 01:16:02,467 Speaker 10: off a little bit by the fact that last week 1461 01:16:02,467 --> 01:16:04,507 Speaker 10: we had a massive Dame City with the Everest and 1462 01:16:05,027 --> 01:16:07,747 Speaker 10: Corfield Cup days a great day out as well. This 1463 01:16:07,987 --> 01:16:09,547 Speaker 10: is the last year for a few years. 1464 01:16:09,427 --> 01:16:10,107 Speaker 7: At Mooney Valley. 1465 01:16:10,107 --> 01:16:14,827 Speaker 10: They're actually redeveloping it and reconfiguring it as well. But yeah, 1466 01:16:15,307 --> 01:16:17,147 Speaker 10: I take what edge has. 1467 01:16:17,067 --> 01:16:17,507 Speaker 7: Gone off it. 1468 01:16:17,627 --> 01:16:19,787 Speaker 10: But when the race comes around it it will still 1469 01:16:19,827 --> 01:16:23,307 Speaker 10: be a fantastic race and one with a lot of intrigue, 1470 01:16:23,307 --> 01:16:25,547 Speaker 10: and we'll get a lot of notes over here. It's 1471 01:16:25,587 --> 01:16:28,947 Speaker 10: near enough to six o'clock over here later this afternoon. 1472 01:16:29,027 --> 01:16:32,987 Speaker 10: So yeah, those who at Mooney Valley who are still standing, yeah, 1473 01:16:33,027 --> 01:16:34,627 Speaker 10: they're going to enjoy it. 1474 01:16:34,787 --> 01:16:37,707 Speaker 3: Still standing as a very very good question. James McDonald 1475 01:16:37,707 --> 01:16:42,307 Speaker 3: A Kiley on vas Sustaina goes in as the favorite, Yeah. 1476 01:16:42,147 --> 01:16:45,667 Speaker 10: Yeah, and deservedly so. Look, we probably the favorite was 1477 01:16:45,707 --> 01:16:48,387 Speaker 10: the Delius, but he got ruled out because they're not 1478 01:16:48,387 --> 01:16:50,867 Speaker 10: happy with his bone scans the hor so they'd have 1479 01:16:50,947 --> 01:16:53,467 Speaker 10: to stell it out of the Melbourne Cup as well. 1480 01:16:54,027 --> 01:16:57,147 Speaker 10: But hasn't been as dominant as she has been in 1481 01:16:57,187 --> 01:17:00,267 Speaker 10: the last couple of campaigns. This campaign, she's taken a 1482 01:17:00,307 --> 01:17:01,827 Speaker 10: bit of a while to get going and she I 1483 01:17:01,867 --> 01:17:05,027 Speaker 10: think she's a little bit vulnerable with Antina today. That yeah, 1484 01:17:05,107 --> 01:17:08,227 Speaker 10: j Macki's yeah, it seems to be around the mark. 1485 01:17:08,307 --> 01:17:11,467 Speaker 10: You haven't had the dominant spring so far, but you're 1486 01:17:11,507 --> 01:17:14,027 Speaker 10: just waiting for someone like this to go and ride 1487 01:17:14,027 --> 01:17:15,907 Speaker 10: five winners on a day like Cocks Play Day and 1488 01:17:16,387 --> 01:17:18,667 Speaker 10: the major winner as well. So yeah, Joe Mack will 1489 01:17:18,707 --> 01:17:22,187 Speaker 10: be there close enough, if good enough in all of 1490 01:17:22,187 --> 01:17:23,227 Speaker 10: these races. 1491 01:17:22,827 --> 01:17:24,867 Speaker 3: Where are they going to move the cox plate too? 1492 01:17:24,867 --> 01:17:28,907 Speaker 3: While Mooney Valley gets a research, I reckon. 1493 01:17:28,787 --> 01:17:31,507 Speaker 10: It's flooding to next year that they decided on. They 1494 01:17:31,587 --> 01:17:33,587 Speaker 10: might shift it around, they might go out the corefield, 1495 01:17:33,747 --> 01:17:36,147 Speaker 10: but I think, yeah, flooding to this year. I don't 1496 01:17:36,187 --> 01:17:38,227 Speaker 10: know how many years they was out to play of 1497 01:17:38,467 --> 01:17:41,187 Speaker 10: a couple of years, but yeah, it's a bit of 1498 01:17:41,187 --> 01:17:43,347 Speaker 10: a shame because Mooney Valley, if you don't know your 1499 01:17:43,347 --> 01:17:48,427 Speaker 10: horse racing, is this uniquely shaped venue whereas it's like 1500 01:17:48,467 --> 01:17:53,227 Speaker 10: an anti sitter and the horses go away, the side 1501 01:17:53,267 --> 01:17:55,387 Speaker 10: straights are long, and the home straight and the back 1502 01:17:55,387 --> 01:17:59,387 Speaker 10: straight very short, so it's like almost like cricket oval shape. 1503 01:17:59,947 --> 01:18:01,587 Speaker 10: So yeah, I don't know if they're going to come 1504 01:18:01,587 --> 01:18:05,147 Speaker 10: back with that configuration, but it's it's got its unique characteristics. 1505 01:18:04,867 --> 01:18:07,187 Speaker 10: And it's a close setting as well, So they come 1506 01:18:07,227 --> 01:18:09,067 Speaker 10: around the turn and everyone's on top of each other, 1507 01:18:09,187 --> 01:18:11,667 Speaker 10: forty thousand people, and it holds the noise. So it's 1508 01:18:11,667 --> 01:18:13,467 Speaker 10: a great atmosphere there and I'm sure it will be 1509 01:18:13,787 --> 01:18:14,427 Speaker 10: light at the data. 1510 01:18:14,587 --> 01:18:17,267 Speaker 3: We'll speaking of cricket ovals, the ashes not too far 1511 01:18:17,347 --> 01:18:20,627 Speaker 3: away we're on the countdown. Look, there's some you know 1512 01:18:20,627 --> 01:18:24,107 Speaker 3: obviously news around the squad where Pet Cummings you know 1513 01:18:24,147 --> 01:18:27,187 Speaker 3: in question as well. So what three or four weeks 1514 01:18:27,227 --> 01:18:29,627 Speaker 3: out from that first tiste, how is the preparations going 1515 01:18:29,627 --> 01:18:30,227 Speaker 3: for Australia. 1516 01:18:31,067 --> 01:18:34,227 Speaker 10: Yeah, Patty's running, which is good. It's a good sign, 1517 01:18:34,227 --> 01:18:36,467 Speaker 10: but he's not bowling yet. You've got to build up 1518 01:18:36,467 --> 01:18:39,027 Speaker 10: to be able to then get the running part right. 1519 01:18:39,067 --> 01:18:42,427 Speaker 10: And then because he's got to lower back, little hotspot 1520 01:18:42,707 --> 01:18:46,587 Speaker 10: that'll signed early early sign of a stress fracture. So 1521 01:18:46,627 --> 01:18:49,387 Speaker 10: you had to ease right off and with those things 1522 01:18:49,627 --> 01:18:51,547 Speaker 10: I know about lower backs unfortunately, like a lot of 1523 01:18:51,627 --> 01:18:55,427 Speaker 10: middle age men, if you start to twist and turn 1524 01:18:55,987 --> 01:18:59,667 Speaker 10: before the things one hundred percent, you'll know you are 1525 01:18:59,867 --> 01:19:03,347 Speaker 10: absolutely no hope. So yeah, bowling be able to twisting 1526 01:19:03,347 --> 01:19:06,827 Speaker 10: and turning it when you're running in it as an hour, 1527 01:19:06,947 --> 01:19:09,187 Speaker 10: So yeah, it's not great for a lower back. 1528 01:19:09,227 --> 01:19:10,267 Speaker 5: So he's got to make sure of it. 1529 01:19:10,307 --> 01:19:12,267 Speaker 10: But that's the big story. And then the other story, 1530 01:19:12,387 --> 01:19:14,667 Speaker 10: who's going to back to Australian Marnus Lavashane has come 1531 01:19:14,667 --> 01:19:16,907 Speaker 10: good again, so it looks like he'll be back in. 1532 01:19:17,987 --> 01:19:19,747 Speaker 10: I think the top six will be decided by the 1533 01:19:19,747 --> 01:19:22,587 Speaker 10: fact that if Cameron Green can bowl. If he can bowl, 1534 01:19:22,627 --> 01:19:26,267 Speaker 10: he'll probably play six manus three another opener needed. If 1535 01:19:26,307 --> 01:19:29,907 Speaker 10: Cameron Green can't bowl, he backed at three, Marnus opens 1536 01:19:30,147 --> 01:19:32,867 Speaker 10: and Doe Webster plays at six. That's the general thought 1537 01:19:32,987 --> 01:19:34,347 Speaker 10: over here, but it was a little bit of cricket 1538 01:19:34,347 --> 01:19:35,507 Speaker 10: to play before the first Test. 1539 01:19:35,587 --> 01:19:37,267 Speaker 3: One of the things I love, finally, Adam, is all 1540 01:19:37,307 --> 01:19:38,507 Speaker 3: the predictions pretty serious. 1541 01:19:38,507 --> 01:19:38,667 Speaker 8: Think. 1542 01:19:38,707 --> 01:19:41,187 Speaker 3: David Lloyd said this week five mil England, Stewart broad 1543 01:19:41,267 --> 01:19:43,907 Speaker 3: seeds some oflar. I think Glen mcgrat always is five 1544 01:19:43,947 --> 01:19:46,147 Speaker 3: mil Australia. This has when the pun that's really make 1545 01:19:46,227 --> 01:19:48,507 Speaker 3: their They die with these predictions. 1546 01:19:49,227 --> 01:19:52,507 Speaker 10: Yeah, we Lloyd and McGrath are just like stupid de 1547 01:19:52,587 --> 01:19:58,427 Speaker 10: biased and I emphasized closers there, but no, you understand it. 1548 01:19:58,467 --> 01:20:01,147 Speaker 10: I mean David Lloyd was just doing it for cause 1549 01:20:01,147 --> 01:20:03,547 Speaker 10: and effects because for glenmc grath. But the only reason 1550 01:20:03,547 --> 01:20:05,147 Speaker 10: why he said that, I think he's going to be 1551 01:20:05,187 --> 01:20:08,747 Speaker 10: a really clot serious hope webstays or these two sides, 1552 01:20:08,987 --> 01:20:12,307 Speaker 10: especially England, like the movie game on. So if we 1553 01:20:12,387 --> 01:20:17,027 Speaker 10: get the big thing is is actually what the services 1554 01:20:17,067 --> 01:20:21,587 Speaker 10: throw up now Historically you think Australia flat bouncy wickets. 1555 01:20:21,627 --> 01:20:25,347 Speaker 10: You know, batters really prosper if they get through the 1556 01:20:25,387 --> 01:20:29,067 Speaker 10: tough initial period. But last year and maybe the year before, 1557 01:20:29,067 --> 01:20:31,227 Speaker 10: there's there's been a big in him. They've had the 1558 01:20:31,267 --> 01:20:34,467 Speaker 10: profile more of the wicket you might find over your 1559 01:20:34,467 --> 01:20:37,387 Speaker 10: way or in England. So yeah, I'll be interested to 1560 01:20:37,427 --> 01:20:39,547 Speaker 10: see what is served up and that will determine the 1561 01:20:39,587 --> 01:20:41,067 Speaker 10: length of the game, So we could see some three 1562 01:20:41,107 --> 01:20:41,947 Speaker 10: day tests for sure. 1563 01:20:42,267 --> 01:20:44,587 Speaker 3: Watch the space. Adam Peacock, thanks very much for joining 1564 01:20:44,627 --> 01:20:46,467 Speaker 3: us as always on a Saturday. I appreciate it. Catch 1565 01:20:46,507 --> 01:20:49,787 Speaker 3: up soon, good one, good one. Adam Peacock joining us 1566 01:20:49,827 --> 01:20:52,587 Speaker 3: says he does around this time. You've really Saturday afternoon 1567 01:20:52,627 --> 01:20:56,467 Speaker 3: on US talks. He'll be quite the globe trotters. Globrotter 1568 01:20:56,507 --> 01:20:57,987 Speaker 3: is not the right word with Adam Peacock. But I 1569 01:20:58,027 --> 01:20:59,907 Speaker 3: was in Perth a couple of weeks ago for the 1570 01:21:00,027 --> 01:21:03,627 Speaker 3: All Blacks tests and see's fronting Premier League coverage on 1571 01:21:03,867 --> 01:21:05,947 Speaker 3: Channel nine and stand over there. I think he's on 1572 01:21:05,987 --> 01:21:08,587 Speaker 3: the olymp box and everything like that. Well across all 1573 01:21:08,627 --> 01:21:11,667 Speaker 3: the sporting landscape is Adam Peacock. Ways enjoy catching up 1574 01:21:11,707 --> 01:21:15,067 Speaker 3: with him, getting his perspective on Australian Sport. We'll take 1575 01:21:15,107 --> 01:21:17,187 Speaker 3: a break, come back wrap up the hour after this 1576 01:21:17,307 --> 01:21:21,307 Speaker 3: on News Talk ZBB. Seven and a half away from two. 1577 01:21:21,827 --> 01:21:24,107 Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call 1578 01:21:24,267 --> 01:21:27,747 Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty weekend for it News 1579 01:21:27,787 --> 01:21:28,307 Speaker 1: Talk ZEBB. 1580 01:21:29,147 --> 01:21:31,707 Speaker 3: It's five away from two on News Talk ZEBB. Been 1581 01:21:31,747 --> 01:21:35,347 Speaker 3: a bowlers morning in the Ford Trophy. Wellington bowled out 1582 01:21:35,347 --> 01:21:38,347 Speaker 3: for one hundred and ninety nine against Central District, So 1583 01:21:38,467 --> 01:21:42,267 Speaker 3: Tigo's two hundred and two for eight against Canterbury at 1584 01:21:42,307 --> 01:21:45,547 Speaker 3: Hagley Oval and Northern District's one sixty one for eight 1585 01:21:45,587 --> 01:21:48,947 Speaker 3: after forty five overs against Auckland Aces at the Eden 1586 01:21:48,987 --> 01:21:51,107 Speaker 3: Park for Oval. So the ball is having a little 1587 01:21:51,107 --> 01:21:53,867 Speaker 3: bit of fun around the country this afternoon. And the 1588 01:21:54,027 --> 01:21:58,227 Speaker 3: LA Dodgers leading Toronto Blue Jays one nil at the 1589 01:21:58,347 --> 01:22:01,027 Speaker 3: bottom of the second in the opening game of the 1590 01:22:01,027 --> 01:22:04,187 Speaker 3: World Series. After two o'clock, we're going to go to 1591 01:22:05,347 --> 01:22:08,267 Speaker 3: go Media Mount Smart Stadium to use the full tongue 1592 01:22:08,267 --> 01:22:12,107 Speaker 3: twisted title as Auckland FC began their second season at 1593 01:22:12,187 --> 01:22:14,667 Speaker 3: least from a home perspective, Nick Becker, their CEO, on 1594 01:22:14,707 --> 01:22:16,947 Speaker 3: the program, Chris Midland Formula one Juno gives this the 1595 01:22:17,067 --> 01:22:20,587 Speaker 3: latest on Liam Lawson as well, and a sporting chants 1596 01:22:20,627 --> 01:22:22,667 Speaker 3: your chance to win a one hundred and fifty dollars 1597 01:22:22,667 --> 01:22:26,707 Speaker 3: tab bet. That is all coming up after two o'clock News, 1598 01:22:26,747 --> 01:22:29,387 Speaker 3: Sport and weather here on News Talk z B. 1599 01:22:30,507 --> 01:22:34,787 Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues, 1600 01:22:35,467 --> 01:22:40,947 Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on 1601 01:22:41,067 --> 01:22:45,587 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport on your home of sport, News Talk zed B. 1602 01:22:50,267 --> 01:22:54,627 Speaker 3: Welcome back in seven after two final hour of Weekend 1603 01:22:54,867 --> 01:22:58,547 Speaker 3: Sport this afternoon. It still a lot to come on 1604 01:22:58,587 --> 01:23:04,947 Speaker 3: the program. Nick Becker, the boss of AUCKLANDFC. From the 1605 01:23:05,027 --> 01:23:07,907 Speaker 3: heights they reached last year, how can they do it 1606 01:23:07,947 --> 01:23:11,507 Speaker 3: again this year and go that little bit better? What 1607 01:23:11,547 --> 01:23:13,787 Speaker 3: are the keys for them this year? Nick Becker, the 1608 01:23:13,907 --> 01:23:17,667 Speaker 3: chief executive of Auckland FC. Out at Mount Smart Stadium 1609 01:23:17,707 --> 01:23:22,227 Speaker 3: their first home game of the season this afternoon. Pretty 1610 01:23:22,227 --> 01:23:24,987 Speaker 3: good crowd they're expecting as well, I believe for a 1611 01:23:25,187 --> 01:23:29,947 Speaker 3: labor day weekends. Do you ever quite know with Auckland's 1612 01:23:30,147 --> 01:23:32,747 Speaker 3: can empty out of it? They've got the Western sydy waterers. 1613 01:23:32,787 --> 01:23:35,627 Speaker 3: At five o'clock, mc becker will join us to talk 1614 01:23:35,627 --> 01:23:38,267 Speaker 3: about how they build on that first season and get 1615 01:23:38,267 --> 01:23:41,947 Speaker 3: ready for season suit. Chris Midlands Formula Ones you know, 1616 01:23:42,107 --> 01:23:46,747 Speaker 3: joins us as crunch time for Liam Lawson. Will he 1617 01:23:46,867 --> 01:23:51,827 Speaker 3: get a seat next year? Sounds like this weekend at 1618 01:23:51,947 --> 01:23:56,107 Speaker 3: Mexico is pretty crucial in terms of Red Bull Racing 1619 01:23:56,147 --> 01:24:00,507 Speaker 3: Balls making that decision around their lineup for twenty twenty six. 1620 01:24:00,547 --> 01:24:03,427 Speaker 3: So what does Liam Lawson need to do and how 1621 01:24:03,507 --> 01:24:09,067 Speaker 3: much can this weekend really in fla Once the decision 1622 01:24:09,067 --> 01:24:12,467 Speaker 3: makers at Red Bull, Chris Medland on the way your 1623 01:24:12,587 --> 01:24:16,027 Speaker 3: chance to win as well with a tab sporting chance 1624 01:24:17,547 --> 01:24:20,347 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars tab bet. We'll give you 1625 01:24:20,467 --> 01:24:24,707 Speaker 3: three options, your chance to pick one of those a 1626 01:24:24,707 --> 01:24:27,027 Speaker 3: bit later on in the hour as well, and we'll 1627 01:24:27,027 --> 01:24:31,467 Speaker 3: take you to Apollo Projects Stadium in christ Church. Match 1628 01:24:31,547 --> 01:24:34,587 Speaker 3: commentator Nick Buley will give us a sense of how 1629 01:24:34,667 --> 01:24:38,187 Speaker 3: things are tracking not long out from kickoff in this 1630 01:24:38,267 --> 01:24:43,387 Speaker 3: afternoon's NPC Final Canterbury and Otago plenty to cram and 1631 01:24:43,507 --> 01:24:45,907 Speaker 3: the text line does remain open ninety two nine two 1632 01:24:46,147 --> 01:24:48,107 Speaker 3: if there's anything you want to get off your chest 1633 01:24:48,627 --> 01:24:51,667 Speaker 3: this afternoon. But as we do after two o'clock on 1634 01:24:51,707 --> 01:24:54,987 Speaker 3: a Saturday and a Sunday, we kick off the hour 1635 01:24:55,547 --> 01:25:01,467 Speaker 3: with in case you missed it all right, well the 1636 01:25:01,507 --> 01:25:03,427 Speaker 3: Premier League can turn you. With a hot start for 1637 01:25:03,587 --> 01:25:05,987 Speaker 3: Leeds it was enough to bank the points against west Ham. 1638 01:25:06,027 --> 01:25:06,427 Speaker 7: This morre. 1639 01:25:09,187 --> 01:25:12,947 Speaker 3: Watch out and Choe road On. I think it is 1640 01:25:13,267 --> 01:25:16,347 Speaker 3: who reels away. He's claiming the goal. 1641 01:25:16,787 --> 01:25:20,547 Speaker 18: There is traffic for once again fear the question marks 1642 01:25:20,587 --> 01:25:24,587 Speaker 18: about west Hammy and Icey is defending and inside fifteen 1643 01:25:24,667 --> 01:25:28,907 Speaker 18: minutes achieve. At times we questioned this season can they score. 1644 01:25:28,707 --> 01:25:32,267 Speaker 3: Goals or the two little yeah there's two on final score. 1645 01:25:32,307 --> 01:25:34,387 Speaker 3: Things not going well for west Ham, even though they're 1646 01:25:34,387 --> 01:25:37,267 Speaker 3: already changed their manager. Maybe they'll do the Nottingham Forest 1647 01:25:37,347 --> 01:25:40,067 Speaker 3: and change it again and see what happens. Let's stick 1648 01:25:40,067 --> 01:25:42,387 Speaker 3: with football and go to the A League. The Newcastle 1649 01:25:42,467 --> 01:25:45,307 Speaker 3: Jets piling on the goals to beat Melbourne Victory. 1650 01:25:45,667 --> 01:25:47,507 Speaker 9: They come again as through Daniel Wilmury. 1651 01:25:47,747 --> 01:25:50,467 Speaker 19: He looked really good, particularly in this second half, and 1652 01:25:50,587 --> 01:25:54,187 Speaker 19: after that closed his Oscar Pryor who gets his first 1653 01:25:54,307 --> 01:25:55,187 Speaker 19: daily goals. 1654 01:25:56,507 --> 01:26:00,867 Speaker 3: The nineteen year old seals the deal. The Newcastle Jets. 1655 01:26:00,907 --> 01:26:03,507 Speaker 3: They ran home winners five to two. Big one over 1656 01:26:03,507 --> 01:26:05,627 Speaker 3: at Melbourne victory. Right, we've got a bunch of NBA 1657 01:26:05,827 --> 01:26:08,747 Speaker 3: action to get through. This is all on court stuff. 1658 01:26:09,627 --> 01:26:13,027 Speaker 3: I should point out not hearing from Cash Patel, from 1659 01:26:13,027 --> 01:26:14,987 Speaker 3: the FBI or anyone involved here. 1660 01:26:15,067 --> 01:26:15,267 Speaker 9: Right. 1661 01:26:15,547 --> 01:26:17,227 Speaker 3: Two games in the Thunder have had to go to 1662 01:26:17,307 --> 01:26:20,587 Speaker 3: double overtime twice, most recently to beat the Pacers. 1663 01:26:21,667 --> 01:26:24,667 Speaker 20: Two point lea for the Thunder, Killess Alexander the drive, 1664 01:26:24,787 --> 01:26:29,787 Speaker 20: I've finish off the glass, fifty one points for Sgah 1665 01:26:29,867 --> 01:26:33,907 Speaker 20: Kildas Alexander has it nold foulon the Bull's coming down 1666 01:26:34,107 --> 01:26:35,267 Speaker 20: and this one's gonna be all. 1667 01:26:35,187 --> 01:26:38,267 Speaker 3: It Thunder winning the NBA Final rematch one forty one, 1668 01:26:38,347 --> 01:26:42,187 Speaker 3: one thirty five the Denver Nuggets. Aaron Gordon scored fifty 1669 01:26:42,627 --> 01:26:44,547 Speaker 3: and shot ten of eleven for three in a Korea 1670 01:26:44,627 --> 01:26:48,347 Speaker 3: game against the Warriors. Lord He's been hold on the. 1671 01:26:50,347 --> 01:26:50,547 Speaker 13: Top. 1672 01:26:50,707 --> 01:26:54,667 Speaker 3: Three pointers for Gordon that protect the lay. But Steph 1673 01:26:54,667 --> 01:26:56,907 Speaker 3: Curry had to last laugh as he led the Golden 1674 01:26:56,907 --> 01:26:59,707 Speaker 3: State Warriors to a one thirty seven one thirty one 1675 01:26:59,827 --> 01:27:00,867 Speaker 3: overtime victory. 1676 01:27:01,507 --> 01:27:05,387 Speaker 20: You'll get to answer, go go, Curry s JERSA. 1677 01:27:08,267 --> 01:27:10,267 Speaker 3: Nobody picks up, Curry takes it all. 1678 01:27:10,187 --> 01:27:13,947 Speaker 20: The way and Lisa forty points for Curry. 1679 01:27:15,987 --> 01:27:18,547 Speaker 1: The scoot from the track field and the court on 1680 01:27:18,747 --> 01:27:21,227 Speaker 1: your whole of sport Weekend Sport. 1681 01:27:22,187 --> 01:27:24,387 Speaker 3: And the La Dodgers turned in love the top of 1682 01:27:24,427 --> 01:27:26,667 Speaker 3: the third in the game against the Toronto Blue Jazz 1683 01:27:26,707 --> 01:27:30,107 Speaker 3: World Series Game one. Let's turn our attention to football 1684 01:27:30,187 --> 01:27:32,827 Speaker 3: on Weekend Sport as it ticks over twelve past two, 1685 01:27:37,227 --> 01:27:38,347 Speaker 3: bring out the play. 1686 01:27:39,467 --> 01:27:46,787 Speaker 21: And Linga's celebrations figgures on. These are a league premius, 1687 01:27:47,947 --> 01:27:51,507 Speaker 21: emulating the Western Sydney Wanderer side of twenty twelve thirteen 1688 01:27:52,147 --> 01:27:55,267 Speaker 21: by winning the regular season. So they out as an 1689 01:27:55,267 --> 01:27:59,387 Speaker 21: expansion club in their very first season, and they are. 1690 01:27:59,427 --> 01:28:00,227 Speaker 9: Not done yet. 1691 01:28:00,867 --> 01:28:04,787 Speaker 3: Unfortunately they didn't go on to win the title, of course, 1692 01:28:04,867 --> 01:28:09,147 Speaker 3: losing to Melbourne victory in the semi finals last season. 1693 01:28:09,227 --> 01:28:13,147 Speaker 3: So can they go one better and advance to the 1694 01:28:13,187 --> 01:28:16,427 Speaker 3: final and lift the trophy itself this year? Joining us 1695 01:28:16,467 --> 01:28:19,627 Speaker 3: now is the chief executive of Auckland f C. Nick 1696 01:28:19,667 --> 01:28:23,227 Speaker 3: Becker on Weekend Sport Afternoon, Neck, thanks sir for your time. 1697 01:28:23,427 --> 01:28:24,347 Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having me. 1698 01:28:24,707 --> 01:28:27,387 Speaker 3: How ready are you for the second season at least 1699 01:28:27,507 --> 01:28:29,347 Speaker 3: when it comes to to home games And I'll get 1700 01:28:29,427 --> 01:28:32,827 Speaker 3: underway last week. But home game starting the season this afternoon? 1701 01:28:32,827 --> 01:28:33,307 Speaker 3: How ready? 1702 01:28:34,187 --> 01:28:34,427 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1703 01:28:34,467 --> 01:28:37,027 Speaker 7: They were really excited to be about go media. Of course, 1704 01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:41,627 Speaker 7: it's our spiritual home, it's our fortress's fativa fied up. 1705 01:28:41,627 --> 01:28:43,507 Speaker 7: I think we're pretty we're looking good in terms of 1706 01:28:44,627 --> 01:28:46,987 Speaker 7: fitness for all the players. We should have a full 1707 01:28:47,027 --> 01:28:50,987 Speaker 7: squad available. Other than I think Pionakerer Nando's out for 1708 01:28:50,987 --> 01:28:55,307 Speaker 7: a little bit. We're very It is a good kind 1709 01:28:55,347 --> 01:28:59,507 Speaker 7: of labor weekend crowd. I think half of Augland's gone 1710 01:28:59,507 --> 01:29:01,787 Speaker 7: away that the other half of here hope you're going 1711 01:29:01,827 --> 01:29:03,027 Speaker 7: to make it along to the game today. 1712 01:29:03,467 --> 01:29:06,627 Speaker 3: Ticket sales are pretty hell healthy bad. 1713 01:29:06,627 --> 01:29:09,947 Speaker 7: They're not bad, but especially given it's the first long 1714 01:29:09,947 --> 01:29:13,347 Speaker 7: weekend for people, so understandably a few of a few 1715 01:29:13,347 --> 01:29:16,787 Speaker 7: have hited out, but really kind of positive response from 1716 01:29:16,787 --> 01:29:19,547 Speaker 7: everybody who's been here. The port sold out so there'd 1717 01:29:19,547 --> 01:29:22,027 Speaker 7: be full voice in there, so you really looking forward 1718 01:29:22,067 --> 01:29:22,547 Speaker 7: to be back. 1719 01:29:22,827 --> 01:29:25,227 Speaker 3: How much did you at the end of last season 1720 01:29:25,347 --> 01:29:28,027 Speaker 3: sit back, take a deep breath and look back and 1721 01:29:28,267 --> 01:29:30,467 Speaker 3: what lessons did you take out of that first campaign? 1722 01:29:31,547 --> 01:29:33,267 Speaker 7: Wow? When we to be honest, when we lost the 1723 01:29:33,267 --> 01:29:36,187 Speaker 7: City finals, absolutely gutted And it's kind of really weird 1724 01:29:36,187 --> 01:29:38,107 Speaker 7: feeling because you've got all these plans on about a 1725 01:29:38,107 --> 01:29:41,027 Speaker 7: Grand final and then suddenly you know, you've got nothing 1726 01:29:41,067 --> 01:29:43,627 Speaker 7: to do and no one's calling you. But after that 1727 01:29:43,707 --> 01:29:45,867 Speaker 7: we got over that. You sort of took a bit 1728 01:29:45,907 --> 01:29:48,987 Speaker 7: of time to step back and reflect, and we're all 1729 01:29:49,067 --> 01:29:53,427 Speaker 7: super proud of what we're achieved last season. I think 1730 01:29:53,467 --> 01:29:55,107 Speaker 7: the fact that we didn't go all the way through 1731 01:29:55,147 --> 01:29:58,587 Speaker 7: to a Grand Final and when that was was sort 1732 01:29:58,627 --> 01:30:01,747 Speaker 7: of motivation for us this season. And I think, you know, 1733 01:30:01,827 --> 01:30:05,507 Speaker 7: also the way that Auckland responded to us, and you know, 1734 01:30:05,547 --> 01:30:08,267 Speaker 7: we said right from the we wanted to make Auckland 1735 01:30:08,267 --> 01:30:10,307 Speaker 7: proud as a club for both what we did on 1736 01:30:10,347 --> 01:30:12,507 Speaker 7: the pitch and off it, and the fact that we 1737 01:30:12,587 --> 01:30:15,387 Speaker 7: got that response from from Ukander's turning up at our games, 1738 01:30:15,387 --> 01:30:17,267 Speaker 7: you know, two hundred and forty thousand people through our 1739 01:30:17,267 --> 01:30:20,947 Speaker 7: gates last season. We just want to really repay that 1740 01:30:21,027 --> 01:30:23,507 Speaker 7: support and that faith and kind of just go again 1741 01:30:23,627 --> 01:30:26,427 Speaker 7: this season and kind of go for the go for 1742 01:30:26,467 --> 01:30:29,387 Speaker 7: the double if we can, but just try try and 1743 01:30:29,427 --> 01:30:31,227 Speaker 7: do everything that we can on and off the pitch. 1744 01:30:31,547 --> 01:30:34,587 Speaker 3: Was there anything that surprised you last season about the 1745 01:30:34,587 --> 01:30:39,587 Speaker 3: competition or the way that maybe Aucklanders embrace this team. 1746 01:30:40,627 --> 01:30:45,107 Speaker 7: I think, you know, we're really happy with the fact 1747 01:30:45,107 --> 01:30:48,707 Speaker 7: that we you know, we play on a Saturday at 1748 01:30:48,707 --> 01:30:51,227 Speaker 7: five pm or a Sunday at three pm, so you 1749 01:30:51,267 --> 01:30:53,107 Speaker 7: get that kind of like weekend where a whole family 1750 01:30:53,147 --> 01:30:56,227 Speaker 7: can come along, the sun shining and playing across summer. 1751 01:30:56,547 --> 01:30:58,667 Speaker 7: And it was just offering something different to Aucklanders and 1752 01:30:58,947 --> 01:31:00,627 Speaker 7: they sort of, you know, they came along and tried 1753 01:31:00,707 --> 01:31:03,027 Speaker 7: it and saw what we're all about and kind of 1754 01:31:03,027 --> 01:31:04,907 Speaker 7: loved the match that experience and came back. And I 1755 01:31:04,907 --> 01:31:07,147 Speaker 7: think that was already you know, big thing for us 1756 01:31:07,267 --> 01:31:09,867 Speaker 7: was just to do something differently, to be bold and 1757 01:31:10,507 --> 01:31:12,947 Speaker 7: to be creative with what we did at Go Media, 1758 01:31:13,307 --> 01:31:14,827 Speaker 7: and I think Orkinder just loved it when they came 1759 01:31:14,827 --> 01:31:16,747 Speaker 7: along and saw it, and you know, I was just 1760 01:31:16,747 --> 01:31:18,787 Speaker 7: absolutely buying away with a number of families and kids 1761 01:31:18,827 --> 01:31:21,907 Speaker 7: that were in our games, and then suddenly blown away 1762 01:31:21,907 --> 01:31:24,747 Speaker 7: with the fact that we saw our shirt on kids 1763 01:31:24,787 --> 01:31:27,267 Speaker 7: all across Auckland and you saw them everywhere. You know, 1764 01:31:27,387 --> 01:31:29,787 Speaker 7: it's it's really impressive. 1765 01:31:29,907 --> 01:31:31,307 Speaker 3: Well, I came back last year. I was I was 1766 01:31:31,307 --> 01:31:32,787 Speaker 3: away with the covering the all blacks and the end 1767 01:31:32,827 --> 01:31:35,067 Speaker 3: of the year too, and that was what late October 1768 01:31:35,227 --> 01:31:38,947 Speaker 3: early to late November came back and they were everywhere. 1769 01:31:38,987 --> 01:31:40,347 Speaker 3: When I got back and it was something I really 1770 01:31:40,347 --> 01:31:41,947 Speaker 3: noticed is that in the month I had been gone, 1771 01:31:41,987 --> 01:31:43,867 Speaker 3: the season had really started by before I left, but 1772 01:31:44,347 --> 01:31:46,547 Speaker 3: Auckland had picked up this team that embraced it. The 1773 01:31:46,587 --> 01:31:48,987 Speaker 3: jerseys were selling, people were wearing them out and about, 1774 01:31:49,027 --> 01:31:50,267 Speaker 3: and very quickly caught on. 1775 01:31:51,147 --> 01:31:52,947 Speaker 7: Yeah it did, it did, And I think that was 1776 01:31:52,947 --> 01:31:54,707 Speaker 7: the thing. And I think what we did is, you know, 1777 01:31:54,707 --> 01:31:56,987 Speaker 7: there was a real energy on the pitch. We're playing 1778 01:31:57,307 --> 01:31:59,787 Speaker 7: exciting football. We were winning games in the last minute. 1779 01:31:59,907 --> 01:32:01,787 Speaker 7: You know, the team's made up with a lot of 1780 01:32:01,827 --> 01:32:04,387 Speaker 7: Kiwis and a lot of Aucklanders in the squad, and 1781 01:32:04,387 --> 01:32:06,987 Speaker 7: then a bit of exciting you know todaytional flare on 1782 01:32:07,067 --> 01:32:09,667 Speaker 7: there too. And then you get along to the matchday experience. 1783 01:32:09,747 --> 01:32:12,507 Speaker 7: You go think, well, that's interesting. I'm seeing the shirt everywhere. 1784 01:32:12,507 --> 01:32:13,827 Speaker 7: I'll go along to a game. You go to the 1785 01:32:13,867 --> 01:32:16,307 Speaker 7: game and you said, there's a big inflatable slide down 1786 01:32:16,347 --> 01:32:19,627 Speaker 7: the hill. You've got this hardcore fan group who are 1787 01:32:20,067 --> 01:32:22,627 Speaker 7: who have that kind of bring that atmosphere, the color 1788 01:32:22,667 --> 01:32:24,947 Speaker 7: and the noise, and they're chanting and singing the whole game. 1789 01:32:25,227 --> 01:32:27,147 Speaker 7: And it's not anything like what you see in New 1790 01:32:27,227 --> 01:32:30,427 Speaker 7: Zealand sport. It's completely different, and that's what we set 1791 01:32:30,427 --> 01:32:33,027 Speaker 7: out to do, and we delivered that last season, and 1792 01:32:33,067 --> 01:32:34,827 Speaker 7: we're just going to keep on doing it this season. 1793 01:32:34,867 --> 01:32:37,067 Speaker 7: You know, we're constantly looking to tweak it. 1794 01:32:37,907 --> 01:32:38,147 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1795 01:32:38,267 --> 01:32:40,707 Speaker 3: I mean people talk about the second season syndrome or 1796 01:32:40,747 --> 01:32:42,787 Speaker 3: the second album when it comes to musicians and that 1797 01:32:42,827 --> 01:32:45,227 Speaker 3: sort of thing. Backing it up can be difficult. How 1798 01:32:45,227 --> 01:32:47,187 Speaker 3: have you approached that this season? How have you built 1799 01:32:47,267 --> 01:32:48,707 Speaker 3: on what you did last season? I guess from a 1800 01:32:48,747 --> 01:32:49,947 Speaker 3: fan experience. 1801 01:32:50,147 --> 01:32:52,507 Speaker 7: Yeah, you should know what. That's also a real key 1802 01:32:52,547 --> 01:32:54,027 Speaker 7: wee thing to do, isn't it is? It's kind of 1803 01:32:54,067 --> 01:32:55,667 Speaker 7: go all else. It's going to be hard to do 1804 01:32:55,787 --> 01:32:58,587 Speaker 7: that again. But you know, for us, I think it's 1805 01:32:58,627 --> 01:33:00,827 Speaker 7: actually like it's a bit of a challenge. It's a 1806 01:33:00,827 --> 01:33:03,787 Speaker 7: bit of an opportunity, Like we are gonna, Yeah, we 1807 01:33:03,827 --> 01:33:05,547 Speaker 7: may not go as well as we did last season, 1808 01:33:05,547 --> 01:33:07,307 Speaker 7: but we're going to try hard as we did, and 1809 01:33:07,347 --> 01:33:08,627 Speaker 7: we're going to work as hard as we did, and 1810 01:33:08,627 --> 01:33:10,987 Speaker 7: we're gonna we're going to continue to do things differently 1811 01:33:11,027 --> 01:33:13,547 Speaker 7: and continue to kind of like look at challenge, what 1812 01:33:13,947 --> 01:33:16,107 Speaker 7: is just the normal? I think that's all that we 1813 01:33:16,147 --> 01:33:18,027 Speaker 7: can do as long as we can sit back and 1814 01:33:18,067 --> 01:33:19,907 Speaker 7: go yeah, what at the end of the season, we 1815 01:33:19,987 --> 01:33:22,867 Speaker 7: gave that absolutely everything. I think the fans will respond 1816 01:33:22,907 --> 01:33:25,347 Speaker 7: really well. I think football fans are a bit different too. 1817 01:33:25,387 --> 01:33:28,907 Speaker 7: They that tribal and they and they you know, they 1818 01:33:28,947 --> 01:33:31,547 Speaker 7: pick their team and they stick with it through you know, 1819 01:33:31,667 --> 01:33:33,987 Speaker 7: thick and thin, rain or sun, whatever it may be, 1820 01:33:34,907 --> 01:33:36,747 Speaker 7: and so you kind of have that that hopefully we 1821 01:33:36,747 --> 01:33:39,347 Speaker 7: will have that hardcore attitude which is like Awk of 1822 01:33:39,387 --> 01:33:42,427 Speaker 7: their Sea is my team, and hopefully that just seeps 1823 01:33:42,427 --> 01:33:44,587 Speaker 7: out and resonates across the whole the whole fan base 1824 01:33:44,627 --> 01:33:45,067 Speaker 7: as well. 1825 01:33:45,227 --> 01:33:46,827 Speaker 3: Do you think you've got the squad capin will of 1826 01:33:46,867 --> 01:33:47,987 Speaker 3: going all the way this year? 1827 01:33:49,027 --> 01:33:50,747 Speaker 7: I do? I do? You know? We made it. We 1828 01:33:50,867 --> 01:33:54,587 Speaker 7: brought in five players left, so we lost Alex Poulsen. 1829 01:33:54,907 --> 01:33:57,627 Speaker 7: He was probably our biggest loss in terms of a 1830 01:33:57,747 --> 01:33:59,307 Speaker 7: keeper of it. But then we brought in an Oly Sale. 1831 01:33:59,307 --> 01:34:01,667 Speaker 7: We've got two great keepers with Michael Food who's at 1832 01:34:01,747 --> 01:34:04,267 Speaker 7: number one and only sal who's going to constantly challenge 1833 01:34:04,307 --> 01:34:07,827 Speaker 7: him all season. We brought in a new so Max 1834 01:34:07,867 --> 01:34:11,867 Speaker 7: Madda left and we've he went back on loan to Shrewsby, 1835 01:34:11,867 --> 01:34:14,947 Speaker 7: and we brought in a guy called Sam Cosgrove because 1836 01:34:14,947 --> 01:34:18,227 Speaker 7: he is a classic big point man, you know sort 1837 01:34:18,227 --> 01:34:21,947 Speaker 7: of he's he's about six foot five. He'll be enter 1838 01:34:21,947 --> 01:34:23,827 Speaker 7: and around the box if he if he gets on 1839 01:34:23,867 --> 01:34:26,867 Speaker 7: it and start scoring goals, I mean, look out, look 1840 01:34:26,867 --> 01:34:29,507 Speaker 7: out to all the other team's defenses. And we brought 1841 01:34:29,507 --> 01:34:32,187 Speaker 7: it exciting new winger and two a guy called lockey 1842 01:34:32,227 --> 01:34:36,267 Speaker 7: Brook and Lockie has been you know, he set the 1843 01:34:36,427 --> 01:34:39,107 Speaker 7: A League alight a few seasons ago when the MLS. 1844 01:34:39,587 --> 01:34:41,667 Speaker 7: He's come back to do the same again here with us. 1845 01:34:41,707 --> 01:34:45,067 Speaker 7: So I think we brought in some young and attacking 1846 01:34:45,387 --> 01:34:47,867 Speaker 7: quality into the side, and then the rest of the team. 1847 01:34:47,987 --> 01:34:49,707 Speaker 7: You know that was a team around last season. They 1848 01:34:49,747 --> 01:34:52,507 Speaker 7: already know what it's like to win silverware and they 1849 01:34:52,547 --> 01:34:55,427 Speaker 7: also which just importantly is they know what it's like 1850 01:34:55,507 --> 01:34:57,507 Speaker 7: to lose in the semi final and they're going to 1851 01:34:57,547 --> 01:35:00,107 Speaker 7: have to They're going to want to kind of come 1852 01:35:00,107 --> 01:35:01,467 Speaker 7: back and go one better this year. 1853 01:35:01,707 --> 01:35:04,107 Speaker 3: The first derby a couple of weeks away in November 1854 01:35:04,227 --> 01:35:08,027 Speaker 3: down in Wellington. How important are they as the centerpiece 1855 01:35:08,587 --> 01:35:10,787 Speaker 3: of the season, having that three times a campaign. 1856 01:35:11,867 --> 01:35:15,947 Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, everyone loves a derby, right, we certainly do, 1857 01:35:16,147 --> 01:35:18,547 Speaker 7: and and it's also good to see that that kind 1858 01:35:18,547 --> 01:35:20,587 Speaker 7: of New Zealand sports fans have embraced it as well. 1859 01:35:20,667 --> 01:35:23,827 Speaker 7: You know, we had two sold out derbies at go 1860 01:35:23,947 --> 01:35:27,107 Speaker 7: Media last season. I'm sure they'd be great. So we 1861 01:35:27,227 --> 01:35:29,067 Speaker 7: only get one this season, but there'll be two down 1862 01:35:29,067 --> 01:35:31,587 Speaker 7: in Wellington and I'm sure the Wellington fans will turn out. 1863 01:35:31,587 --> 01:35:33,547 Speaker 7: I've got no doubt we'll sell odd hours up here 1864 01:35:33,747 --> 01:35:36,107 Speaker 7: and it shows that the fans want that. There was 1865 01:35:36,147 --> 01:35:40,787 Speaker 7: a great level of kind of i'd call it respectable 1866 01:35:40,867 --> 01:35:44,507 Speaker 7: band if that's not Noxy Warren and and well, you know, 1867 01:35:44,507 --> 01:35:46,427 Speaker 7: we had we had a good dig at each other, 1868 01:35:47,147 --> 01:35:49,187 Speaker 7: but there was a line and nobody crossed it and 1869 01:35:49,667 --> 01:35:51,107 Speaker 7: it was kind of it was a lot of fun 1870 01:35:51,227 --> 01:35:52,987 Speaker 7: and it kind of, you know, it kind of got 1871 01:35:52,987 --> 01:35:55,587 Speaker 7: back into that good old rivalries that New Zealand sport 1872 01:35:55,747 --> 01:35:56,987 Speaker 7: probably hasn't seen for a while. 1873 01:35:57,787 --> 01:36:01,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, and and yeah it's pretty raary, rare at 1874 01:36:01,427 --> 01:36:04,907 Speaker 3: other sports levels obviously as well. Just finally, Nick Becker 1875 01:36:04,947 --> 01:36:06,547 Speaker 3: with us on News Talk Z. But you mentioned the 1876 01:36:06,587 --> 01:36:09,587 Speaker 3: port earlier. How important to have them is a sort 1877 01:36:09,587 --> 01:36:11,507 Speaker 3: of focal point. I know you have families that come 1878 01:36:11,547 --> 01:36:13,667 Speaker 3: along as well, but knowing the port are going to 1879 01:36:13,707 --> 01:36:15,747 Speaker 3: be there week in, week out, as you said, Rain 1880 01:36:15,787 --> 01:36:16,867 Speaker 3: Haill Shine. 1881 01:36:17,307 --> 01:36:20,547 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, we all love the port. The port 1882 01:36:20,547 --> 01:36:23,667 Speaker 7: have built up an amazing connection with with our players 1883 01:36:23,947 --> 01:36:25,547 Speaker 7: but also with the rest of the fan base, and 1884 01:36:25,587 --> 01:36:28,027 Speaker 7: they do bring that color, They do bring something that's 1885 01:36:28,067 --> 01:36:31,347 Speaker 7: hostally unique to New Zealand sport. And they sing and 1886 01:36:31,387 --> 01:36:33,027 Speaker 7: they make noise, and they bring the atmosphere and they 1887 01:36:33,067 --> 01:36:35,267 Speaker 7: just really add to the to the whole match they 1888 01:36:35,307 --> 01:36:36,987 Speaker 7: experience absolutely well. 1889 01:36:37,027 --> 01:36:39,107 Speaker 3: Next question, the best of this afternoon as you kick 1890 01:36:39,107 --> 01:36:41,107 Speaker 3: off your home campaign and indeed for the rest of 1891 01:36:41,147 --> 01:36:42,547 Speaker 3: the season as well. Great to catch up. 1892 01:36:42,627 --> 01:36:43,307 Speaker 7: Thank you very much. 1893 01:36:43,427 --> 01:36:46,427 Speaker 3: Nick Becka joining ours five o'clock kick off this afternoon 1894 01:36:46,667 --> 01:36:50,027 Speaker 3: for that game against Western Sydney Wanderers. I think they're 1895 01:36:50,027 --> 01:36:53,627 Speaker 3: expecting a pretty decent crowd, is he mentioned at the top, 1896 01:36:54,147 --> 01:36:59,107 Speaker 3: Hard and a long weekends in Auckland to see how 1897 01:36:59,107 --> 01:37:01,627 Speaker 3: many people are actually in the city, but decent old 1898 01:37:01,667 --> 01:37:04,667 Speaker 3: crowd for this opening game at five o'clock of course, 1899 01:37:04,707 --> 01:37:08,667 Speaker 3: to Wellington Phoenix played tomorrow against the Brisbane Raw Phoenix fans, 1900 01:37:08,707 --> 01:37:10,827 Speaker 3: we haven't forgotten you. Alex Rufe is going to join 1901 01:37:10,907 --> 01:37:13,587 Speaker 3: us tomorrow on the program to give us their perspective 1902 01:37:13,627 --> 01:37:16,307 Speaker 3: that come off. Of course, the two or draw against 1903 01:37:16,307 --> 01:37:19,147 Speaker 3: Perth Glory in their away trip last week, so we'll 1904 01:37:19,187 --> 01:37:22,667 Speaker 3: get the Phoenix side of things tomorrow afternoon here on 1905 01:37:22,707 --> 01:37:26,547 Speaker 3: news Talk zeb their first home game of twenty twenty five. 1906 01:37:26,747 --> 01:37:30,347 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six its twenty one after two on news 1907 01:37:30,387 --> 01:37:33,547 Speaker 3: Talk ZB. Right, is Liam Lawson going to have a 1908 01:37:33,587 --> 01:37:37,067 Speaker 3: Formula one seat next year? Chris Midland's going to join us. 1909 01:37:37,107 --> 01:37:41,107 Speaker 3: He's at the Mexican grom Prix this weekend, close to 1910 01:37:41,147 --> 01:37:43,307 Speaker 3: the track. He'll have his heir to the ground here 1911 01:37:43,387 --> 01:37:46,707 Speaker 3: to the track. I'm sure he'll give us all the 1912 01:37:46,707 --> 01:37:49,387 Speaker 3: oil after this here on news Talk ZB twenty two 1913 01:37:49,547 --> 01:37:51,107 Speaker 3: after twoe the. 1914 01:37:51,147 --> 01:37:56,147 Speaker 1: Tough questions after turf weekend Sport with GJ gunomes New 1915 01:37:56,227 --> 01:37:58,387 Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder News. 1916 01:37:58,267 --> 01:38:02,267 Speaker 3: Talg z MB twenty four after two on news Talk ZEBB. 1917 01:38:02,427 --> 01:38:04,547 Speaker 3: We've got your chance to win. Shortly with the sporting 1918 01:38:04,667 --> 01:38:07,467 Speaker 3: chants of the tab one hundred and fifty dollars Beck 1919 01:38:07,627 --> 01:38:10,587 Speaker 3: becoming your way, We're going to turn our attention to 1920 01:38:10,867 --> 01:38:15,707 Speaker 3: Formula One. Big weekend for Liam Lawson in the context 1921 01:38:15,787 --> 01:38:18,187 Speaker 3: of his Formula One career, and you go the Mexican 1922 01:38:18,227 --> 01:38:21,307 Speaker 3: Grand Prix. How is that bag well, Chris Midland's going 1923 01:38:21,347 --> 01:38:23,347 Speaker 3: to join us to explain because it's crunch time in 1924 01:38:23,427 --> 01:38:26,627 Speaker 3: terms of making a decision as to whether Liam Lawson 1925 01:38:26,707 --> 01:38:29,507 Speaker 3: is going to have a Formula One seat next year. 1926 01:38:29,587 --> 01:38:32,747 Speaker 3: Chris Midland Formula one Genus with us on the program. 1927 01:38:32,827 --> 01:38:35,187 Speaker 3: Chris Howse Thing, thanks for joining us on News Talk 1928 01:38:35,267 --> 01:38:37,107 Speaker 3: z MB. Yeah, not to be bad for you mate much. 1929 01:38:37,147 --> 01:38:40,107 Speaker 22: You joined in a very noisy Mexico City as one 1930 01:38:40,107 --> 01:38:42,227 Speaker 22: of the most vibrant race weekends of the year gets underway. 1931 01:38:42,267 --> 01:38:44,587 Speaker 3: Well, fantastic time and it feels like a crunch weekend 1932 01:38:44,547 --> 01:38:46,347 Speaker 3: for at least from a New Zealand perspective, where of 1933 01:38:46,387 --> 01:38:50,187 Speaker 3: course following Liam Lawson very very closely, and it feels like, 1934 01:38:50,227 --> 01:38:52,947 Speaker 3: at least from our perspective, all eyes are on this 1935 01:38:53,027 --> 01:38:56,387 Speaker 3: weekend because it feels like a decision is imminence with 1936 01:38:56,507 --> 01:39:00,107 Speaker 3: Liam Lawson's future next year, is it. 1937 01:39:00,107 --> 01:39:02,107 Speaker 22: It seems like way not just about Liam no, but 1938 01:39:02,107 --> 01:39:04,307 Speaker 22: about all the Red Bull drivers. Lian was asked about 1939 01:39:04,307 --> 01:39:06,667 Speaker 22: it actually joining the media sessions yesterday and said, I 1940 01:39:06,707 --> 01:39:08,827 Speaker 22: know nothing at this point, and I feel like we 1941 01:39:08,867 --> 01:39:11,747 Speaker 22: would know if something had happened, because you just get 1942 01:39:11,987 --> 01:39:14,227 Speaker 22: words from within the team. Somebody would pass on the 1943 01:39:14,227 --> 01:39:17,467 Speaker 22: information that a decision had been made. But Red Bull 1944 01:39:17,547 --> 01:39:19,187 Speaker 22: don't have to rush anything they want to do with 1945 01:39:19,227 --> 01:39:21,547 Speaker 22: their drivers. They have them all under contract. They can 1946 01:39:21,587 --> 01:39:23,747 Speaker 22: wait as late as they want in the season. But 1947 01:39:23,867 --> 01:39:25,627 Speaker 22: I think they're aware that for a few of them 1948 01:39:25,827 --> 01:39:28,787 Speaker 22: it would really help give them some certainty. The problem 1949 01:39:28,827 --> 01:39:30,827 Speaker 22: we've got with not just Liam but his teammate either 1950 01:39:30,867 --> 01:39:33,067 Speaker 22: haadchat and with Yuki Snoda in the red Ball alongside 1951 01:39:33,067 --> 01:39:36,707 Speaker 22: Maxistappan is that no one of them is performing consistently 1952 01:39:36,827 --> 01:39:39,507 Speaker 22: at a high enough level to guarantee where they will be. 1953 01:39:39,867 --> 01:39:42,467 Speaker 22: But also none of them are performing consistently low that 1954 01:39:42,507 --> 01:39:44,387 Speaker 22: you think they're going to get replaced. So I do 1955 01:39:44,387 --> 01:39:46,307 Speaker 22: think it's actually quite a tough decision for Red Bull, 1956 01:39:46,307 --> 01:39:48,827 Speaker 22: and I wouldn't be surprised if they review it after 1957 01:39:48,867 --> 01:39:51,027 Speaker 22: this race. But don't actually they make a final call. 1958 01:39:51,347 --> 01:39:54,307 Speaker 22: How much will this weekend really influence it? Because as 1959 01:39:54,347 --> 01:39:56,387 Speaker 22: you say, no one's putting the hit up and going 1960 01:39:56,467 --> 01:39:58,867 Speaker 22: I am the definitive choice. So does it get to 1961 01:39:58,867 --> 01:40:01,747 Speaker 22: the point where little margins can really count in their 1962 01:40:01,747 --> 01:40:05,307 Speaker 22: favor like a good result this weekend? Absolutely, I mean 1963 01:40:05,347 --> 01:40:08,107 Speaker 22: every result matters, every session matters, and just the way 1964 01:40:08,147 --> 01:40:10,427 Speaker 22: you go about your business at this time when decisions 1965 01:40:10,547 --> 01:40:12,427 Speaker 22: being made, we'll really have a bigger influence. 1966 01:40:12,507 --> 01:40:12,667 Speaker 4: You know. 1967 01:40:12,707 --> 01:40:15,507 Speaker 22: Teams would love to say they don't, but recently, buyers 1968 01:40:15,547 --> 01:40:17,827 Speaker 22: always plays into it. And if you're seeing signs of 1969 01:40:17,827 --> 01:40:20,067 Speaker 22: progress as well. For example, you know Liam when he 1970 01:40:20,147 --> 01:40:22,987 Speaker 22: went back to ring balls earlier this year, took him 1971 01:40:22,987 --> 01:40:24,227 Speaker 22: a little while to get that spring back in his 1972 01:40:24,267 --> 01:40:26,147 Speaker 22: step and that confidence back up after the hit of 1973 01:40:26,507 --> 01:40:28,747 Speaker 22: being dropped by Red Bulls so quickly. But the reason 1974 01:40:28,787 --> 01:40:30,187 Speaker 22: they put put him back in that car is they 1975 01:40:30,227 --> 01:40:32,027 Speaker 22: believed in him and his talent that he could still 1976 01:40:32,067 --> 01:40:34,267 Speaker 22: find his feet, and once he did, he's performed very 1977 01:40:34,267 --> 01:40:36,227 Speaker 22: well in the second half of the year. So if 1978 01:40:36,267 --> 01:40:39,027 Speaker 22: your form's improving, that bodes well looking forward, and that 1979 01:40:39,107 --> 01:40:41,107 Speaker 22: might give you a better chance of a team kind 1980 01:40:41,147 --> 01:40:43,507 Speaker 22: of either sticking with you or promoting you. If your 1981 01:40:43,507 --> 01:40:45,907 Speaker 22: form is declining, then you can kind of extrapolate that 1982 01:40:45,947 --> 01:40:49,347 Speaker 22: out and saying maybe the long term because the trend 1983 01:40:49,387 --> 01:40:51,747 Speaker 22: isn't so good both. It's a bit of a tricky 1984 01:40:51,747 --> 01:40:54,507 Speaker 22: one for Red Bull to make, but it's definitely imperative 1985 01:40:54,507 --> 01:40:56,507 Speaker 22: that the drivers that are performing well at this moment, 1986 01:40:56,947 --> 01:40:58,947 Speaker 22: and I'd say the smart money had been on Isaac 1987 01:40:58,987 --> 01:41:01,427 Speaker 22: catcha i've been put to tread ball. I'd say he's 1988 01:41:01,427 --> 01:41:03,147 Speaker 22: still a favorite to get that, but he had a 1989 01:41:03,147 --> 01:41:04,947 Speaker 22: messy weekend last time out in Austin. 1990 01:41:06,347 --> 01:41:08,627 Speaker 3: A few more question marks, what are the scenario is 1991 01:41:08,667 --> 01:41:11,187 Speaker 3: it's effectively? Is it just one seat that's up for grebs. 1992 01:41:11,187 --> 01:41:12,827 Speaker 3: I know they haven't announced the full lineup, but this 1993 01:41:12,907 --> 01:41:16,027 Speaker 3: feels like just a one seat scenario. Preps a shootout 1994 01:41:16,027 --> 01:41:17,547 Speaker 3: with with Lawson and Day in Sonda. 1995 01:41:19,027 --> 01:41:21,507 Speaker 22: Well, now I feel like it's more four drivers into 1996 01:41:21,507 --> 01:41:24,267 Speaker 22: three seats, and it's not maxis Stappin involved in that. 1997 01:41:24,307 --> 01:41:25,387 Speaker 3: Maxis Stappen is locked in. 1998 01:41:25,507 --> 01:41:28,347 Speaker 22: He's definitely staying, But it's who drives alongside Max, and 1999 01:41:28,387 --> 01:41:30,947 Speaker 22: then who is the lineup at racing balls alongside him? 2000 01:41:31,347 --> 01:41:34,667 Speaker 22: And the drivers Sonoda currently in the Red Bull, who 2001 01:41:34,747 --> 01:41:36,987 Speaker 22: I personally think is most at risk of being replaced. 2002 01:41:37,427 --> 01:41:39,507 Speaker 22: Then you've got Isaac and Liam in the Racing Balls, 2003 01:41:39,547 --> 01:41:42,427 Speaker 22: which one of those would replace Uki if Youki's replaced. 2004 01:41:42,587 --> 01:41:44,307 Speaker 22: And as I say, I think that is the way 2005 01:41:44,347 --> 01:41:47,627 Speaker 22: it's headed, and you'd probably start. Isaac was slightly ahead 2006 01:41:47,667 --> 01:41:49,707 Speaker 22: because of the way the Red Bull went with Liam 2007 01:41:49,707 --> 01:41:51,267 Speaker 22: at the started this year and now they're going to 2008 01:41:51,267 --> 01:41:53,227 Speaker 22: see if Isaac can handle it next year as well, 2009 01:41:53,427 --> 01:41:56,747 Speaker 22: but it's not a guarantee. And then alongside whoever stays 2010 01:41:56,747 --> 01:41:58,987 Speaker 22: at Racing Balls, it would be Arvid Lindblad, the young 2011 01:41:59,067 --> 01:41:59,907 Speaker 22: drivers currently. 2012 01:41:59,747 --> 01:42:01,587 Speaker 3: F two stepping up in that seat. 2013 01:42:01,947 --> 01:42:03,627 Speaker 22: He was actually running an FP one here in Mexico 2014 01:42:03,627 --> 01:42:06,067 Speaker 22: earlier today, showing that they're trying to prepare him for 2015 01:42:06,067 --> 01:42:08,907 Speaker 22: a step up to F one. So Red Bull are 2016 01:42:08,907 --> 01:42:10,587 Speaker 22: looking at they want to get lin Blad into a 2017 01:42:10,667 --> 01:42:12,267 Speaker 22: race seat when they can. So that's why I feel 2018 01:42:12,267 --> 01:42:14,987 Speaker 22: like it's four into three around maxist happened and the 2019 01:42:14,987 --> 01:42:16,907 Speaker 22: most at risk feels like a Yuki Sanoda. 2020 01:42:16,987 --> 01:42:19,267 Speaker 3: What's your read on how Lawson's adapted to this year 2021 01:42:19,307 --> 01:42:22,347 Speaker 3: because it started obviously so strong in the Red Bull seat, 2022 01:42:22,347 --> 01:42:24,147 Speaker 3: then he moved to racing balls. Has he taken it 2023 01:42:24,147 --> 01:42:24,907 Speaker 3: in his stride? 2024 01:42:25,427 --> 01:42:27,427 Speaker 22: I'd say he has by the middle of the season, 2025 01:42:27,507 --> 01:42:29,227 Speaker 22: shall I say, For a lot of drivers, it could 2026 01:42:29,227 --> 01:42:30,667 Speaker 22: really have broken them and it could have been a 2027 01:42:30,707 --> 01:42:33,427 Speaker 22: downward spiral having just two races in one seat and 2028 01:42:33,467 --> 01:42:35,947 Speaker 22: then being moved, but Liam kind of took that on 2029 01:42:35,947 --> 01:42:37,467 Speaker 22: the chin, went back to a team that he knows 2030 01:42:37,467 --> 01:42:39,907 Speaker 22: well he likes and a car that he's comfortable in 2031 01:42:40,147 --> 01:42:43,267 Speaker 22: and enjoys driving, and thought, right, I can rebuild from here, 2032 01:42:43,507 --> 01:42:45,347 Speaker 22: and we saw it. It took a little while because Hajjar 2033 01:42:45,507 --> 01:42:47,187 Speaker 22: was performing well at the starts of the year. That 2034 01:42:47,227 --> 01:42:49,267 Speaker 22: puts a bit of pressure on Lawson alongside him because 2035 01:42:49,267 --> 01:42:52,387 Speaker 22: he's slightly more experienced than Hadjar is. But then once 2036 01:42:52,627 --> 01:42:55,107 Speaker 22: Liam really did kind of give his confidence back, essentially 2037 01:42:55,227 --> 01:42:57,387 Speaker 22: by the summer, we saw some really really strong results 2038 01:42:57,427 --> 01:42:59,907 Speaker 22: and I think that's impressed red Ball because it surely 2039 01:42:59,907 --> 01:43:02,667 Speaker 22: has that mental fortitude to kind of fight back from 2040 01:43:02,667 --> 01:43:05,267 Speaker 22: a tough position earlier in the year. The thing they're 2041 01:43:05,267 --> 01:43:07,547 Speaker 22: still always looking for though, it's raw speed and the 2042 01:43:07,827 --> 01:43:10,987 Speaker 22: final end product, and that's something where no driver has 2043 01:43:10,987 --> 01:43:12,627 Speaker 22: actually shown it all the way through the year yet. 2044 01:43:12,667 --> 01:43:13,667 Speaker 22: So that's why I think it's a bit more of 2045 01:43:13,667 --> 01:43:15,667 Speaker 22: a question mark over who might get the NOD to 2046 01:43:15,667 --> 01:43:18,867 Speaker 22: replace Yuki, assuming Uky is replaced, and it just feels 2047 01:43:18,867 --> 01:43:21,507 Speaker 22: like it's an Oda that's trending most likely to lose 2048 01:43:21,547 --> 01:43:23,827 Speaker 22: their seat. But I think Liam has done enough to 2049 01:43:23,907 --> 01:43:26,067 Speaker 22: warrant keeping his current at racing balls at least. 2050 01:43:26,307 --> 01:43:28,827 Speaker 3: When do they need to make this decision by I mean, 2051 01:43:28,987 --> 01:43:30,627 Speaker 3: obviously they've got a bit of time, but it feels 2052 01:43:30,707 --> 01:43:32,627 Speaker 3: like it's imminent. Could they kick it down the road 2053 01:43:32,667 --> 01:43:35,547 Speaker 3: for a few more weeks, Y'd oh, absolutely. 2054 01:43:35,587 --> 01:43:37,307 Speaker 22: I mean, if they really wanted to, they could kick 2055 01:43:37,307 --> 01:43:39,107 Speaker 22: it down the road until the end of January when 2056 01:43:39,147 --> 01:43:41,227 Speaker 22: we go testing to the start of twenty twenty six. Now, 2057 01:43:41,267 --> 01:43:43,107 Speaker 22: I don't think they'll do that because you need to 2058 01:43:43,107 --> 01:43:44,467 Speaker 22: have the seat fits done, you want to have the 2059 01:43:44,547 --> 01:43:46,587 Speaker 22: drivers in the simulator, you want to have them preparing 2060 01:43:46,587 --> 01:43:49,387 Speaker 22: with their engineers before the new season gets underway. And 2061 01:43:49,467 --> 01:43:51,987 Speaker 22: it is earlier next year because of new regulations, so 2062 01:43:52,067 --> 01:43:54,027 Speaker 22: normally testing would be mid to late February that it 2063 01:43:54,067 --> 01:43:57,067 Speaker 22: starts next year, it starts in late January and then 2064 01:43:57,107 --> 01:43:58,827 Speaker 22: has some more going on in February two before we 2065 01:43:58,907 --> 01:44:00,867 Speaker 22: head to Melbourne for the first race. So I think 2066 01:44:00,867 --> 01:44:02,867 Speaker 22: it call will be earlier than it usually would be. 2067 01:44:03,227 --> 01:44:04,907 Speaker 22: As we saw last year, they made a change after 2068 01:44:04,907 --> 01:44:07,467 Speaker 22: the final round in Abidabi when they dropped Surgio Peris 2069 01:44:07,507 --> 01:44:09,427 Speaker 22: and cut Liam into that seat at Red Bulls. So 2070 01:44:10,147 --> 01:44:11,867 Speaker 22: they have these drivers on the contract, it's up to 2071 01:44:11,907 --> 01:44:13,707 Speaker 22: them where they want to place them between the teams. 2072 01:44:14,027 --> 01:44:15,947 Speaker 22: Red Bull could really wait as late as the Abbi 2073 01:44:15,987 --> 01:44:18,507 Speaker 22: Dabi Grand Prix in early December, but I do think 2074 01:44:18,507 --> 01:44:20,907 Speaker 22: they'll probably have made a decision before then, or at 2075 01:44:20,987 --> 01:44:22,907 Speaker 22: least be very clear in their minds what they're planning 2076 01:44:22,947 --> 01:44:24,787 Speaker 22: on doing before then, so they can prepare. 2077 01:44:24,987 --> 01:44:27,107 Speaker 3: Chris Midland with us in the tims are the overall 2078 01:44:27,187 --> 01:44:29,867 Speaker 3: race for the title. How much can the duo of 2079 01:44:29,907 --> 01:44:32,987 Speaker 3: Pistri and Norrisfield mex A step and breathing down the 2080 01:44:33,067 --> 01:44:36,147 Speaker 3: nick after the events of last week. Oh absolutely. 2081 01:44:36,147 --> 01:44:37,467 Speaker 22: I think they've been feeling that for a number of 2082 01:44:37,507 --> 01:44:40,187 Speaker 22: race weekends actually, but certainly Austin is the one that 2083 01:44:40,267 --> 01:44:42,267 Speaker 22: really brought it into sharp focus because it's such a 2084 01:44:42,347 --> 01:44:45,747 Speaker 22: quick swing between Oscar and Max. Twenty three points that 2085 01:44:46,027 --> 01:44:48,547 Speaker 22: Max took out of the championship leave and I say 2086 01:44:48,547 --> 01:44:50,427 Speaker 22: he's only forty points back now, and that's in the 2087 01:44:50,427 --> 01:44:52,627 Speaker 22: context of four races earlier he was one hundred and 2088 01:44:52,627 --> 01:44:53,347 Speaker 22: four points back. 2089 01:44:53,587 --> 01:44:56,187 Speaker 3: But forty points is still more than a race victory. 2090 01:44:56,227 --> 01:44:58,307 Speaker 22: That's winning a race and finishing third in a race 2091 01:44:58,547 --> 01:45:01,787 Speaker 22: with Oscar not scoring at all to raise that gap. 2092 01:45:01,827 --> 01:45:03,787 Speaker 22: And we've only got five rounds left, so Max needs 2093 01:45:03,827 --> 01:45:05,907 Speaker 22: to keep the pressure on. He's going to stay attacking, 2094 01:45:05,907 --> 01:45:08,547 Speaker 22: He's going to st aggressive. That's red bulls approach now 2095 01:45:08,627 --> 01:45:10,667 Speaker 22: and they've got nothing to lose and it is putting 2096 01:45:10,707 --> 01:45:11,667 Speaker 22: pressure on McLaren. 2097 01:45:11,907 --> 01:45:13,227 Speaker 3: The problem McLaren have is. 2098 01:45:13,187 --> 01:45:15,067 Speaker 22: The fact that it's both drivers fighting each other too, 2099 01:45:15,307 --> 01:45:17,027 Speaker 22: and Oscar is in the best place because he has 2100 01:45:17,027 --> 01:45:18,787 Speaker 22: the points on the board, but the GAP's been. 2101 01:45:18,667 --> 01:45:19,787 Speaker 3: Coming down to Lando as well. 2102 01:45:19,827 --> 01:45:22,027 Speaker 22: That's down to fourteen points and they're looking at each 2103 01:45:22,027 --> 01:45:23,587 Speaker 22: other as well as at Max and that adds a 2104 01:45:23,587 --> 01:45:26,307 Speaker 22: strange dynamic to it where they can't really afford to 2105 01:45:26,307 --> 01:45:28,867 Speaker 22: get too caught up in certain scenarios and open the 2106 01:45:28,907 --> 01:45:31,107 Speaker 22: door for a sappen I think this is actually a 2107 01:45:31,107 --> 01:45:34,267 Speaker 22: crucial weekend. We saw something similar last year in Brazil. 2108 01:45:34,347 --> 01:45:36,587 Speaker 22: We arrived there, Land and I have been chipping away 2109 01:45:36,667 --> 01:45:38,347 Speaker 22: quite consistently and we thought we were going to get 2110 01:45:38,347 --> 01:45:39,907 Speaker 22: a type of fight potentially to the end of the 2111 01:45:39,987 --> 01:45:40,627 Speaker 22: year against Max. 2112 01:45:40,667 --> 01:45:41,187 Speaker 7: Hastappened. 2113 01:45:41,427 --> 01:45:43,707 Speaker 22: Went to Brazil and after qualifying on the Sunday morning 2114 01:45:43,707 --> 01:45:46,267 Speaker 22: with dodgy weather, he had Norris on pole for Stappord. 2115 01:45:46,267 --> 01:45:49,187 Speaker 22: Starting way back in the field, everyone's thinking, here we go, 2116 01:45:49,267 --> 01:45:51,027 Speaker 22: this title fight has got to get blown wide open. 2117 01:45:51,267 --> 01:45:53,827 Speaker 22: But the race went totally differently. Max won with a 2118 01:45:53,867 --> 01:45:57,747 Speaker 22: brilliant drive, comfortably outscored Norris and that basically ended it 2119 01:45:57,747 --> 01:45:59,347 Speaker 22: there and then because there were only three races to 2120 01:45:59,347 --> 01:46:01,707 Speaker 22: go after that point and that turnaround, that swinging points 2121 01:46:02,107 --> 01:46:04,507 Speaker 22: was hugely damaging to Norris having any chance of drawing 2122 01:46:04,547 --> 01:46:07,387 Speaker 22: it back again. So McClaren will know one strong weekend 2123 01:46:07,467 --> 01:46:09,787 Speaker 22: is all they really need to really hold that momentum. 2124 01:46:09,867 --> 01:46:12,747 Speaker 22: It could really hurt Max's ability to get back into 2125 01:46:12,787 --> 01:46:14,907 Speaker 22: the title fight. So that's why the Stappen has to 2126 01:46:14,947 --> 01:46:17,187 Speaker 22: say stay perfect, but it must be said over the 2127 01:46:17,267 --> 01:46:18,947 Speaker 22: last four races that's exactly what he's done. 2128 01:46:19,107 --> 01:46:22,707 Speaker 3: Final question, Chris, do McLaren need to put the eggs 2129 01:46:22,707 --> 01:46:24,987 Speaker 3: into one basket for the title race? Is it possible 2130 01:46:25,067 --> 01:46:27,947 Speaker 3: or is that just a not you know, something they 2131 01:46:27,947 --> 01:46:30,427 Speaker 3: can consider with those both those drivers right up there. 2132 01:46:31,587 --> 01:46:33,147 Speaker 22: Yeah, I don't think they can consider it now. It's 2133 01:46:33,147 --> 01:46:35,427 Speaker 22: too tight. There's only fourteen points between them. You're really 2134 01:46:35,547 --> 01:46:37,387 Speaker 22: robbing one of a chance to try and win a 2135 01:46:37,427 --> 01:46:39,747 Speaker 22: title if you do that. But also you've given them 2136 01:46:39,747 --> 01:46:42,627 Speaker 22: equal opportunities all season and they're still pretty closely matched, 2137 01:46:42,827 --> 01:46:44,827 Speaker 22: so you've got to see that through. And I dare 2138 01:46:45,027 --> 01:46:47,347 Speaker 22: say it, I think you slightly devalue a championship if 2139 01:46:47,347 --> 01:46:49,387 Speaker 22: you do that from this position. I get it if 2140 01:46:49,387 --> 01:46:50,827 Speaker 22: that's been your approach all the way through that you've 2141 01:46:50,827 --> 01:46:52,787 Speaker 22: had a clear number one and number two, but you've 2142 01:46:52,867 --> 01:46:54,867 Speaker 22: let these two drivers fight it out amongst each other, 2143 01:46:55,147 --> 01:46:56,987 Speaker 22: and then you've got maxis stappend in the frame two. 2144 01:46:57,387 --> 01:46:58,707 Speaker 22: I think it means a heck of a lot more 2145 01:46:58,747 --> 01:47:01,427 Speaker 22: if you win a driver's title against maxistappen in a 2146 01:47:01,467 --> 01:47:04,067 Speaker 22: straight fight. If, for example, Landon NRIs was asked to 2147 01:47:04,067 --> 01:47:07,587 Speaker 22: support Oscar Piastre, then it feels like, you know, Zappa 2148 01:47:07,587 --> 01:47:08,267 Speaker 22: would have been kind. 2149 01:47:08,147 --> 01:47:08,747 Speaker 7: Of doing on his own. 2150 01:47:08,787 --> 01:47:10,427 Speaker 22: He's not had the second car up there with him 2151 01:47:10,587 --> 01:47:12,867 Speaker 22: throughout most of this season, and I think it's a 2152 01:47:12,867 --> 01:47:14,507 Speaker 22: better way for the clurrent and go about their racing. 2153 01:47:14,787 --> 01:47:17,267 Speaker 22: It's just let them go for themselves, try and keep 2154 01:47:17,267 --> 01:47:19,627 Speaker 22: it clean between the two McLaren drivers, which is the 2155 01:47:19,667 --> 01:47:22,227 Speaker 22: tricky part. But if you can do that, then whoever 2156 01:47:22,267 --> 01:47:24,947 Speaker 22: wins it will be a really, really deserving champion. Certainly 2157 01:47:24,987 --> 01:47:26,907 Speaker 22: in the face of that pressure from this happened. But 2158 01:47:27,147 --> 01:47:28,787 Speaker 22: I think it's just too late now, with five races 2159 01:47:28,827 --> 01:47:31,027 Speaker 22: to go, just fourteen points in it. It would take 2160 01:47:31,067 --> 01:47:33,707 Speaker 22: something dramatic, like one driver failing to finish the next 2161 01:47:33,707 --> 01:47:36,027 Speaker 22: two races that might open the door. If it really 2162 01:47:36,067 --> 01:47:38,307 Speaker 22: looked unrealistic for one of them to win, then they 2163 01:47:38,347 --> 01:47:40,267 Speaker 22: might be asked to support. But as it stands, I 2164 01:47:40,307 --> 01:47:41,387 Speaker 22: think we're going to the end like this. 2165 01:47:41,547 --> 01:47:44,587 Speaker 3: Well, it's an endlessly fast ending weekend coming up. Enjoy it, Chrysler, 2166 01:47:44,587 --> 01:47:47,307 Speaker 3: look forward to catching episode. Thanks for your time, will do, 2167 01:47:47,387 --> 01:47:49,947 Speaker 3: Thanks very much. Chris Middland joining US Formula one journalist 2168 01:47:50,027 --> 01:47:54,307 Speaker 3: from Mexico's City, So pretty crunch we keen for Liam 2169 01:47:54,547 --> 01:47:58,507 Speaker 3: Lawson in the scheme of his Formula one career. Right 2170 01:47:58,827 --> 01:48:02,427 Speaker 3: your chance to win now on news talk Zibby is 2171 01:48:02,547 --> 01:48:06,267 Speaker 3: a sporting chance with the tab will take all of 2172 01:48:06,467 --> 01:48:11,107 Speaker 3: five on oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty through to Andy, 2173 01:48:12,347 --> 01:48:15,947 Speaker 3: and he's cooked up three bets for you, a short 2174 01:48:15,947 --> 01:48:20,907 Speaker 3: one and even one, a long odds one, some interesting 2175 01:48:20,947 --> 01:48:24,027 Speaker 3: ones that he's cooked up as well. So one hundred 2176 01:48:24,067 --> 01:48:26,747 Speaker 3: and fifty dollars of a bonus bent goes on your 2177 01:48:26,987 --> 01:48:30,347 Speaker 3: chosen bet of the three options. If it comes in 2178 01:48:30,387 --> 01:48:34,187 Speaker 3: the winner winnings brother minus the steake go to you 2179 01:48:34,787 --> 01:48:36,747 Speaker 3: the winner as well, gonna be eighteen to take part, 2180 01:48:36,947 --> 01:48:39,827 Speaker 3: of course, so call in now. Andy's at the ready, 2181 01:48:39,867 --> 01:48:43,187 Speaker 3: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZEBB, 2182 01:48:43,707 --> 01:48:46,747 Speaker 3: it's a sporting chance with the tab after this at 2183 01:48:46,787 --> 01:48:48,107 Speaker 3: twenty five away from three. 2184 01:48:48,547 --> 01:48:52,147 Speaker 1: The biggest seams in sport are on Weekend Sport with 2185 01:48:52,467 --> 01:48:56,867 Speaker 1: GG Gunnos, New Zealand's lost trusted home builder News Talk ZBB. 2186 01:48:58,947 --> 01:49:01,987 Speaker 1: It's time for a sporting chance thanks to TAB. 2187 01:49:02,907 --> 01:49:05,067 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, thanks to our friends at the tav Are 2188 01:49:05,107 --> 01:49:09,347 Speaker 3: Sporting h San Leoni has called in one hundred and 2189 01:49:09,387 --> 01:49:13,147 Speaker 3: fifty dollar bits on the line. Will give Leoni three 2190 01:49:13,267 --> 01:49:16,667 Speaker 3: options and she can choose which one she wants to take. 2191 01:49:16,707 --> 01:49:20,507 Speaker 3: Andy's cook them up afternoon, Leone, welcome in, Hi. 2192 01:49:20,627 --> 01:49:21,147 Speaker 6: How you going. 2193 01:49:21,227 --> 01:49:23,587 Speaker 3: I'm good, having yourself a good long weekend. 2194 01:49:23,987 --> 01:49:26,187 Speaker 6: I'm very excited to even get through, so I feel 2195 01:49:26,267 --> 01:49:27,227 Speaker 6: like I've want to read again. 2196 01:49:27,347 --> 01:49:30,547 Speaker 3: Awesome. Well, I'll give you the three options that Andy 2197 01:49:30,587 --> 01:49:34,987 Speaker 3: has come up with. The short option is the Joseph Parker. 2198 01:49:35,067 --> 01:49:37,307 Speaker 3: Surely he'll get a title shot now special. So that's 2199 01:49:37,547 --> 01:49:42,107 Speaker 3: Joseph Parker to win by Ko. TKO orders qualification at 2200 01:49:42,147 --> 01:49:44,067 Speaker 3: two dollars that we'll see you win one hundred and 2201 01:49:44,107 --> 01:49:46,987 Speaker 3: fifty dollars if it comes through. The even option is 2202 01:49:47,507 --> 01:49:51,147 Speaker 3: Auckland f C versus Western Sydney Wanderers over under total 2203 01:49:51,187 --> 01:49:54,307 Speaker 3: goals one point five this afternoon. That's at three seventy 2204 01:49:54,387 --> 01:49:57,667 Speaker 3: so that's four hundred and five dollars. And the long option, Leoni, 2205 01:49:57,867 --> 01:50:01,027 Speaker 3: is the Rand Phillip Shield deja vu special that Andy's 2206 01:50:01,027 --> 01:50:04,107 Speaker 3: called it, which is the Canterbury Otigo n PC Final. 2207 01:50:04,427 --> 01:50:08,347 Speaker 3: Canterbury to lead at halftime Otago to win it. That's 2208 01:50:08,387 --> 01:50:11,107 Speaker 3: paying eight point fifty with the potential winnings of one 2209 01:50:11,667 --> 01:50:15,027 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five dollars. What do you reckon leone? 2210 01:50:15,947 --> 01:50:16,507 Speaker 12: Oh why not? 2211 01:50:16,587 --> 01:50:18,867 Speaker 6: Let's go big. Let's go for the Kentry Ochigo game. 2212 01:50:18,947 --> 01:50:20,547 Speaker 3: There we go. Can it be to lead at half 2213 01:50:20,627 --> 01:50:24,667 Speaker 3: time Otago to win it? Leoni? Thanks for player, have 2214 01:50:24,787 --> 01:50:26,707 Speaker 3: a good weekend and we've got our fingers cross for 2215 01:50:26,747 --> 01:50:29,107 Speaker 3: you much awesome, Leoni. Hang on there and he's going 2216 01:50:29,147 --> 01:50:30,747 Speaker 3: to put that bet on star on the line there, 2217 01:50:31,187 --> 01:50:34,467 Speaker 3: Good luck with that going long, going for the win. 2218 01:50:35,307 --> 01:50:37,467 Speaker 3: He's got to put one hundred and fifty dollars tab 2219 01:50:37,707 --> 01:50:40,107 Speaker 3: bonus bit on for you in a couple of moments. 2220 01:50:40,147 --> 01:50:42,667 Speaker 3: We'll keep our fingers crossed of course for you over 2221 01:50:42,707 --> 01:50:45,707 Speaker 3: the weekend later on this afternoon. Of course, if you 2222 01:50:45,707 --> 01:50:48,267 Speaker 3: get a result the winnings minus a stake, all leonis 2223 01:50:48,307 --> 01:50:51,307 Speaker 3: and we'll do it again next week. Thanks to our mates. 2224 01:50:51,467 --> 01:50:56,107 Speaker 3: The tab As always bet responsibly and are a team. 2225 01:50:56,187 --> 01:50:59,147 Speaker 3: And as that final, we turn our attention to back 2226 01:50:59,187 --> 01:51:01,987 Speaker 3: again here on news Talk ZMBIG at twenty away from three, 2227 01:51:02,067 --> 01:51:05,187 Speaker 3: let's take you to Apollo Projects Stadium and our gold 2228 01:51:05,187 --> 01:51:09,027 Speaker 3: sport commentator this after Neck Bewley. Afternoon, Neck, how are you? 2229 01:51:10,067 --> 01:51:12,987 Speaker 9: I'm very well, thank you, Smithy. Yeah, all in readiness here. 2230 01:51:13,027 --> 01:51:17,227 Speaker 13: In fact, the gates have just flung open, and interestingly, 2231 01:51:17,267 --> 01:51:19,627 Speaker 13: as we kept an eye on during the week, this 2232 01:51:19,707 --> 01:51:23,707 Speaker 13: game sold out and there've been general admission tickets right 2233 01:51:23,747 --> 01:51:25,707 Speaker 13: from the get go, so it's very old school here. 2234 01:51:25,707 --> 01:51:28,627 Speaker 13: It's like a lolly scramble to get your best seats. 2235 01:51:28,667 --> 01:51:32,147 Speaker 13: There's about five hundred allocated seats for members to my 2236 01:51:32,227 --> 01:51:34,787 Speaker 13: left here in the south stand, but otherwise there's about 2237 01:51:34,787 --> 01:51:38,307 Speaker 13: fifteen and a half thousand general admission seats, first in 2238 01:51:38,507 --> 01:51:41,667 Speaker 13: best dressed and here at halfway where we are in 2239 01:51:41,707 --> 01:51:43,587 Speaker 13: the south stand, it's starting to fill up already. 2240 01:51:43,627 --> 01:51:45,067 Speaker 9: Lot of Otago jerseys too. 2241 01:51:45,187 --> 01:51:46,707 Speaker 3: I was going to ask if they made their way 2242 01:51:46,787 --> 01:51:50,427 Speaker 3: up from Dunedin from Otago for this big dance they 2243 01:51:50,507 --> 01:51:50,987 Speaker 3: centainly have. 2244 01:51:51,187 --> 01:51:51,427 Speaker 9: Yeah. 2245 01:51:51,507 --> 01:51:53,547 Speaker 13: I was having a ushat to one of the ladies 2246 01:51:53,587 --> 01:51:55,547 Speaker 13: at Canary Rugby during the week and she mentioned on 2247 01:51:55,627 --> 01:51:58,107 Speaker 13: Wednesday that's when they had about twelve thousand tickets sold 2248 01:51:58,387 --> 01:52:00,187 Speaker 13: in terms of what they could see from ticket tech. 2249 01:52:00,227 --> 01:52:02,467 Speaker 13: In terms of where the po boxes and addresses were, 2250 01:52:02,867 --> 01:52:06,707 Speaker 13: about a third were down south in Otago. They have 2251 01:52:06,867 --> 01:52:09,707 Speaker 13: made their way up over the White Ducky Durga River 2252 01:52:10,067 --> 01:52:13,107 Speaker 13: and come here to Apollo Project Stadium in christ Church 2253 01:52:13,187 --> 01:52:16,187 Speaker 13: and big numbers and rightly so, you know, twenty seven 2254 01:52:16,267 --> 01:52:19,707 Speaker 13: years since their last n PC title. It's been a 2255 01:52:19,707 --> 01:52:22,267 Speaker 13: long time even since they've been in a final. So 2256 01:52:22,907 --> 01:52:26,267 Speaker 13: there's a real romanticism around Otago rugby the way they're 2257 01:52:26,307 --> 01:52:28,907 Speaker 13: playing their rugby and now they're just one went away 2258 01:52:28,987 --> 01:52:31,627 Speaker 13: from what would be a famous season in their history. 2259 01:52:31,667 --> 01:52:34,387 Speaker 13: Already sign up the Ranfilly Shield for the summer. Can 2260 01:52:34,467 --> 01:52:36,987 Speaker 13: they do the double? It's all in readiness Smith, they 2261 01:52:36,987 --> 01:52:37,347 Speaker 13: can't wait. 2262 01:52:37,667 --> 01:52:40,387 Speaker 3: You've been around the Cantory camp this week was the 2263 01:52:40,467 --> 01:52:43,507 Speaker 3: cential getting from them their confidence levels that they can 2264 01:52:43,827 --> 01:52:46,507 Speaker 3: reverse what happened a few weeks ago on that Renfhilly 2265 01:52:46,507 --> 01:52:47,387 Speaker 3: Shield challenge. 2266 01:52:47,667 --> 01:52:49,787 Speaker 9: Yeah, very confident group, very confident group. 2267 01:52:49,827 --> 01:52:52,907 Speaker 13: They've been in finals, they hosted a final in twenty 2268 01:52:52,947 --> 01:52:54,267 Speaker 13: twenty two against Wellington. 2269 01:52:54,267 --> 01:52:55,907 Speaker 9: Didn't get the job done on that occasion. 2270 01:52:55,907 --> 01:52:58,587 Speaker 13: There's a lot of experienced players who have played in 2271 01:52:58,667 --> 01:53:01,547 Speaker 13: big matches, whether they be Super Rugby Finals earlier in 2272 01:53:01,587 --> 01:53:04,587 Speaker 13: the year. Guys like Tom Christi who captains this Canterbury 2273 01:53:04,587 --> 01:53:07,907 Speaker 13: team this afternoon and what's his game before heading away 2274 01:53:07,947 --> 01:53:11,627 Speaker 13: to England. So look, they've acknowledged that five weeks ago 2275 01:53:12,107 --> 01:53:14,467 Speaker 13: they didn't get it right in a twenty minute burst. 2276 01:53:14,507 --> 01:53:17,707 Speaker 13: Effectively it was thirty six twenty one with twenty five 2277 01:53:17,707 --> 01:53:20,227 Speaker 13: minutes to go. An actual fact Otago went down to 2278 01:53:20,267 --> 01:53:23,867 Speaker 13: fourteen men Will Tucky yellow carded in that Ranfy Shield match. 2279 01:53:23,987 --> 01:53:27,307 Speaker 13: Yet they still piled on seventeen unanswered points to get 2280 01:53:27,307 --> 01:53:28,027 Speaker 13: the job done. 2281 01:53:28,067 --> 01:53:30,307 Speaker 9: So they know if they can tighten a few things up. 2282 01:53:30,427 --> 01:53:32,147 Speaker 13: One of the key things Tom Christy spoke to me 2283 01:53:33,067 --> 01:53:38,227 Speaker 13: Elliott about slowing down Otago is creating more pressure around 2284 01:53:38,227 --> 01:53:41,147 Speaker 13: the breakdown, slowing their clean ball. We've seen such crisp 2285 01:53:41,707 --> 01:53:44,867 Speaker 13: distribution from young Dylan Pledger at half back for Otago, 2286 01:53:44,907 --> 01:53:48,667 Speaker 13: allowing Cameron Miller to get Otago up on the front foot. 2287 01:53:48,707 --> 01:53:51,427 Speaker 13: So that was an area of focus for Canterbury. But 2288 01:53:51,747 --> 01:53:53,947 Speaker 13: they very much feel that they've been building for this 2289 01:53:54,027 --> 01:53:56,747 Speaker 13: moment and of course it's the last ever MPC match 2290 01:53:56,747 --> 01:53:59,947 Speaker 13: here at the temporary stadium in Addington and they're determined 2291 01:53:59,987 --> 01:54:01,867 Speaker 13: to end what's been a bit of a drought for 2292 01:54:01,907 --> 01:54:04,027 Speaker 13: them really by their standards Canterbury. As I look over 2293 01:54:04,107 --> 01:54:07,987 Speaker 13: at the Northwest Tower twenty seven team, the last time 2294 01:54:08,507 --> 01:54:11,147 Speaker 13: Canterbury lifted the NPC title trophy. 2295 01:54:10,907 --> 01:54:13,667 Speaker 3: How much is a different How much of a difference 2296 01:54:13,747 --> 01:54:16,067 Speaker 3: is no George Bowell, no Sam Dowry going to make 2297 01:54:16,107 --> 01:54:17,227 Speaker 3: to Canterbury this afternoon. 2298 01:54:17,667 --> 01:54:19,307 Speaker 9: I think it can't be understated Elliott. 2299 01:54:19,547 --> 01:54:22,227 Speaker 13: Those two, given they weren't involved in the All Blacks 2300 01:54:22,307 --> 01:54:25,427 Speaker 13: Rugby Championship campaign other than a couple of training sessions, 2301 01:54:25,627 --> 01:54:28,307 Speaker 13: they have been key contributors to getting Canterbury this far 2302 01:54:28,387 --> 01:54:28,907 Speaker 13: this season. 2303 01:54:29,107 --> 01:54:31,707 Speaker 9: In fact, Sam Dowry, by my understanding, is. 2304 01:54:31,667 --> 01:54:33,827 Speaker 13: Going to win the Dwayne Monthly Medal for the best 2305 01:54:33,827 --> 01:54:36,547 Speaker 13: player in the Buddings NPC this season, such has been 2306 01:54:36,587 --> 01:54:39,747 Speaker 13: his influence. George Bowell ever since he shook off that 2307 01:54:39,827 --> 01:54:42,827 Speaker 13: injury mid season, has been in tremendous form and is 2308 01:54:42,907 --> 01:54:45,467 Speaker 13: utterly deserving of his place on that All Blacks End 2309 01:54:45,507 --> 01:54:49,427 Speaker 13: of Year tour. So I think their loss is significant. However, 2310 01:54:50,027 --> 01:54:53,587 Speaker 13: pretty handy replacements to come in, and Brody McAllister's effectively 2311 01:54:53,747 --> 01:54:56,227 Speaker 13: unseated by George Bowell on that All Blacks End of 2312 01:54:56,267 --> 01:54:56,747 Speaker 13: Year tour. 2313 01:54:56,907 --> 01:54:57,987 Speaker 9: Hasn't played a lot of rugby. 2314 01:54:57,987 --> 01:55:00,667 Speaker 13: Brody McAllister, he'll be determined to show that he should 2315 01:55:00,707 --> 01:55:03,307 Speaker 13: still be in that All Blacks conversation. And young Liam 2316 01:55:03,427 --> 01:55:06,987 Speaker 13: Jack the surname Jack prity synonymous in these parts for rugby, 2317 01:55:06,987 --> 01:55:10,347 Speaker 13: with his father Graham Jack playing for Canterbury uncle Chris 2318 01:55:10,427 --> 01:55:12,987 Speaker 13: Jack playing for the All Blacks. He's really a talent 2319 01:55:13,027 --> 01:55:15,467 Speaker 13: to watch for the future. And he'll start this afternoon 2320 01:55:15,707 --> 01:55:18,027 Speaker 13: at Locke for Canterbury. So I don't think they lose 2321 01:55:18,147 --> 01:55:21,307 Speaker 13: too much. However, such has been the influence of Dowry 2322 01:55:21,347 --> 01:55:23,747 Speaker 13: and Boo has to be set it as a blow. 2323 01:55:23,707 --> 01:55:26,267 Speaker 3: Otago as they come up with plenty of confidence. Obviously 2324 01:55:26,267 --> 01:55:28,387 Speaker 3: they've already done it once this season. What have you 2325 01:55:28,827 --> 01:55:31,467 Speaker 3: been impressed by in their campaign? A lot of headlines 2326 01:55:31,667 --> 01:55:33,787 Speaker 3: for Dylan pled during the way that he's played and 2327 01:55:33,787 --> 01:55:35,547 Speaker 3: in some of the other members of that side. But 2328 01:55:35,787 --> 01:55:37,907 Speaker 3: what's impressed to you about so the way Otago have 2329 01:55:37,947 --> 01:55:39,867 Speaker 3: gone about their business this NPC season. 2330 01:55:40,107 --> 01:55:41,427 Speaker 13: Yeah, a lot a lot of head lines for Dylan 2331 01:55:41,427 --> 01:55:44,187 Speaker 13: Pledger are understandably so so to Lucas Casey. The pair 2332 01:55:44,227 --> 01:55:46,147 Speaker 13: of them the open side flanker in the halfback. Would 2333 01:55:46,187 --> 01:55:49,627 Speaker 13: you believe it's scoring eight tries each in an NPC season. 2334 01:55:49,667 --> 01:55:52,667 Speaker 13: But I've really been impressed by the summer their parts. 2335 01:55:52,707 --> 01:55:56,107 Speaker 13: Guys like Will Stoddard at blindside flanker, who actually just 2336 01:55:56,147 --> 01:55:58,747 Speaker 13: took out Otago's four to the year at this Season 2337 01:55:59,107 --> 01:56:01,867 Speaker 13: Awards earlier in the week. Cameron Miller has come a 2338 01:56:01,907 --> 01:56:04,987 Speaker 13: long way in the first five eighth position and is 2339 01:56:05,107 --> 01:56:08,067 Speaker 13: just very a goalkicker as well, which is handy in 2340 01:56:08,107 --> 01:56:10,467 Speaker 13: these big games. And gods like Sam Gilbert as well 2341 01:56:10,467 --> 01:56:13,387 Speaker 13: at fullback, who plays his last game for Otago this 2342 01:56:13,467 --> 01:56:17,427 Speaker 13: afternoon before heading away to Conducht in Ireland. So they've 2343 01:56:17,467 --> 01:56:21,187 Speaker 13: had key contributions from a lot of experienced players and 2344 01:56:21,227 --> 01:56:25,747 Speaker 13: that has allowed them to play this free flowing, unshackled 2345 01:56:25,787 --> 01:56:29,067 Speaker 13: style of rugby. They've scored forty points. Can you believe 2346 01:56:29,067 --> 01:56:32,307 Speaker 13: in their last four games. So first year head coach 2347 01:56:32,347 --> 01:56:34,947 Speaker 13: Mark Brown has influence too. He's got this team humming, 2348 01:56:34,987 --> 01:56:37,747 Speaker 13: he's got them confident. I don't think they have any fear. 2349 01:56:38,187 --> 01:56:40,427 Speaker 13: And with that and with conditions, it's a bit of 2350 01:56:40,427 --> 01:56:42,987 Speaker 13: a Northwest breeze, but it is a blue bird day 2351 01:56:43,307 --> 01:56:45,027 Speaker 13: here in christ there's not a cloud in the sky. 2352 01:56:45,427 --> 01:56:47,867 Speaker 13: It has all set up for Otago to play to 2353 01:56:47,987 --> 01:56:50,787 Speaker 13: their strengths, to shift the ball wide and give this 2354 01:56:50,867 --> 01:56:51,667 Speaker 13: a red hot crack. 2355 01:56:51,827 --> 01:56:53,707 Speaker 3: What's your sense about what this game is going to 2356 01:56:53,747 --> 01:56:55,947 Speaker 3: come down to this afternoon from four. 2357 01:56:56,987 --> 01:57:00,267 Speaker 13: Just moments, big moments late in this game. I think 2358 01:57:00,307 --> 01:57:02,107 Speaker 13: we're going to get a grand stand finish. It's the 2359 01:57:02,107 --> 01:57:04,907 Speaker 13: two best teams all season long. We saw in that 2360 01:57:05,027 --> 01:57:08,747 Speaker 13: Ran Frilly Shield game five weeks ago thirty eight thirty six, 2361 01:57:08,787 --> 01:57:11,267 Speaker 13: it was an absolute nail bier, and I just think 2362 01:57:11,307 --> 01:57:14,267 Speaker 13: it's going to be who can be composed, who can 2363 01:57:14,347 --> 01:57:18,067 Speaker 13: keep a blue head and those key, critical, high pressurized moments, 2364 01:57:18,427 --> 01:57:21,907 Speaker 13: whether it's a breakdown, turnover or a line break. It's 2365 01:57:21,947 --> 01:57:24,387 Speaker 13: just it feels like to me that it's going to 2366 01:57:24,387 --> 01:57:28,027 Speaker 13: be whoever can capitalize and keep their cool in the 2367 01:57:28,027 --> 01:57:31,027 Speaker 13: furnace of a Bunning's MPC Finals. Such, there's so few 2368 01:57:31,107 --> 01:57:34,827 Speaker 13: margins when you look at all the key statistical areas here. 2369 01:57:34,827 --> 01:57:37,107 Speaker 13: We've got the top two teams in terms of points 2370 01:57:37,107 --> 01:57:38,187 Speaker 13: scored in the competition. 2371 01:57:38,707 --> 01:57:39,147 Speaker 9: Canterbury. 2372 01:57:39,187 --> 01:57:41,147 Speaker 13: Yes, they go about in a slightly different way where 2373 01:57:41,187 --> 01:57:46,147 Speaker 13: they suffocate and scramble defensively and make the opposition wilts 2374 01:57:46,227 --> 01:57:49,107 Speaker 13: under pressure. Then you've got to target a bit more enterprising. 2375 01:57:49,187 --> 01:57:51,947 Speaker 13: But it's just the finest of margins. I feel like 2376 01:57:51,947 --> 01:57:54,387 Speaker 13: are going to decide the game today, Elliott, as is 2377 01:57:54,387 --> 01:57:57,667 Speaker 13: always the case in a big final. And yeah, look, 2378 01:57:57,827 --> 01:57:59,427 Speaker 13: as you can probably tell by the excitement of my 2379 01:57:59,547 --> 01:58:01,867 Speaker 13: voice with still an hour twenty up from kickoff, but 2380 01:58:01,947 --> 01:58:03,067 Speaker 13: I am absolutely buzzing. 2381 01:58:03,067 --> 01:58:04,187 Speaker 9: I need to keep it lit on things. 2382 01:58:04,307 --> 01:58:06,667 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Look, I'm sure we'll have some company in the 2383 01:58:06,707 --> 01:58:08,667 Speaker 3: other south stand for once as well, which will be 2384 01:58:08,667 --> 01:58:10,187 Speaker 3: be nice to you because I know you've has been 2385 01:58:10,227 --> 01:58:11,187 Speaker 3: lonely there this season. 2386 01:58:12,107 --> 01:58:14,747 Speaker 13: It is a very unique experience commentating in an empty 2387 01:58:14,787 --> 01:58:15,627 Speaker 13: south stand, Elliott. 2388 01:58:15,707 --> 01:58:17,627 Speaker 9: So already I think I've got about. 2389 01:58:17,587 --> 01:58:21,107 Speaker 13: Five hundred plus people around me here in between aisles 2390 01:58:21,147 --> 01:58:22,947 Speaker 13: twenty three to twenty four on the south stand. 2391 01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:24,027 Speaker 9: It is fantastic. 2392 01:58:24,067 --> 01:58:26,267 Speaker 13: It is befitting of the occasion the last year a 2393 01:58:26,267 --> 01:58:28,547 Speaker 13: provincial match here at a Polo Project Stadium in christ 2394 01:58:28,627 --> 01:58:30,787 Speaker 13: Church and it is going to be full to the brim. 2395 01:58:30,827 --> 01:58:33,107 Speaker 13: It has already full in and around where I am 2396 01:58:33,147 --> 01:58:35,147 Speaker 13: here in the south stand, so we're in for a treat. 2397 01:58:35,267 --> 01:58:36,587 Speaker 3: What time do you kick off? And who's in your 2398 01:58:36,627 --> 01:58:37,707 Speaker 3: commentary team this afternoon? 2399 01:58:37,747 --> 01:58:37,907 Speaker 7: Nick? 2400 01:58:38,187 --> 01:58:41,587 Speaker 13: Coverage begins at ten two four three point fifty. I'm 2401 01:58:41,667 --> 01:58:45,587 Speaker 13: joined by former All Black and multiple NPC title winning 2402 01:58:45,667 --> 01:58:49,307 Speaker 13: player Matt Todd and Craig Kerr will be stalking the 2403 01:58:49,347 --> 01:58:53,627 Speaker 13: sidelines providing analysis and coverage at halftime in postmatch from 2404 01:58:53,627 --> 01:58:55,947 Speaker 13: both camps as well. So an all star cast to 2405 01:58:56,307 --> 01:58:57,667 Speaker 13: bring you this one this afternoon. 2406 01:58:57,667 --> 01:58:59,467 Speaker 3: I certainly does have a great call this afternoon. I 2407 01:58:59,507 --> 01:59:00,427 Speaker 3: I appreciate your time. 2408 01:59:00,787 --> 01:59:01,547 Speaker 9: Thank you, Elliott. 2409 01:59:01,667 --> 01:59:04,867 Speaker 3: That is Nick Buley, our Gold Sports lead commentator for 2410 01:59:04,987 --> 01:59:09,067 Speaker 3: this afternoon's in PC final Canterbury and Otargan is Nick 2411 01:59:09,147 --> 01:59:11,627 Speaker 3: mentioned there? You can catch the full final on Gold 2412 01:59:11,667 --> 01:59:15,627 Speaker 3: Sport and through your iHeartRadio at this afternoon. I'm with Nick. 2413 01:59:15,707 --> 01:59:17,187 Speaker 3: I don't think there's going to be too much in 2414 01:59:17,227 --> 01:59:19,547 Speaker 3: it this afternoon. I think it's going to come down 2415 01:59:19,667 --> 01:59:23,147 Speaker 3: to some key moments late in the game and who 2416 01:59:23,147 --> 01:59:27,027 Speaker 3: can hold their head the most, and hopefully it's not 2417 01:59:27,107 --> 01:59:29,907 Speaker 3: down to a referees decision, it's down to the players 2418 01:59:29,907 --> 01:59:33,627 Speaker 3: on the park and showing their wars the most. Very 2419 01:59:33,707 --> 01:59:37,067 Speaker 3: much looking forward to that game this afternoon. As I said, 2420 01:59:37,107 --> 01:59:40,547 Speaker 3: kickoff at four to five, and we'll keep you, of 2421 01:59:40,547 --> 01:59:42,827 Speaker 3: course updated as well here on News Talk ZB if 2422 01:59:42,827 --> 01:59:46,827 Speaker 3: you're sticking with us, it's coming up ten away from three. 2423 01:59:46,827 --> 01:59:48,587 Speaker 3: I did want to mention as well, I had this 2424 01:59:48,667 --> 01:59:51,947 Speaker 3: in my notes that interestingly, if you're in keen on 2425 01:59:51,987 --> 01:59:55,787 Speaker 3: the ashes, the cricket so the rugby league ashes overnight, 2426 01:59:55,867 --> 01:59:58,787 Speaker 3: it's not on Sky. Just thought i'd mentioned that two 2427 01:59:58,947 --> 02:00:02,347 Speaker 3: fifteen am or two thirty am kickoff, it's three. You 2428 02:00:02,387 --> 02:00:07,667 Speaker 3: can watch it on NRL dot com overnight. NRL dot 2429 02:00:07,707 --> 02:00:10,107 Speaker 3: com is how you watch that. They've got the live 2430 02:00:10,147 --> 02:00:12,027 Speaker 3: stream of that game from two point fifteen if you 2431 02:00:12,067 --> 02:00:14,547 Speaker 3: are looking forward to that. It's not on Sky's sport 2432 02:00:14,907 --> 02:00:18,907 Speaker 3: but from my understanding, it's a free live stream on 2433 02:00:19,067 --> 02:00:22,867 Speaker 3: NRL dot com and the game kicking off at two 2434 02:00:22,907 --> 02:00:25,667 Speaker 3: thirty that opening game, which will be fascinating to see 2435 02:00:26,027 --> 02:00:28,427 Speaker 3: how the kangaroos are maild together under their new coach 2436 02:00:28,547 --> 02:00:31,787 Speaker 3: Kevin Walters. As soon, there'll be some highlights on NRO 2437 02:00:31,907 --> 02:00:33,547 Speaker 3: dot com. If you are not planning to be up 2438 02:00:33,587 --> 02:00:35,547 Speaker 3: at that time of the morning, which I'm not sure 2439 02:00:36,067 --> 02:00:39,467 Speaker 3: many will be around the country. Gent away from two 2440 02:00:39,627 --> 02:00:41,707 Speaker 3: three brother on News Talk z. But we'll come back 2441 02:00:41,707 --> 02:00:42,827 Speaker 3: wrap up the show after. 2442 02:00:42,667 --> 02:00:47,027 Speaker 1: This, breaking down the hail Mary's and the emp fails 2443 02:00:48,667 --> 02:00:51,107 Speaker 1: weekends for it as News Talk ZB. 2444 02:00:52,027 --> 02:00:56,107 Speaker 3: It is coming up six away from three on News 2445 02:00:56,147 --> 02:00:59,547 Speaker 3: Talk ZIB then about does us for Saturday afternooner, don't 2446 02:00:59,587 --> 02:01:03,267 Speaker 3: forget that final four o'clock kickoff Canterbury and Otago on 2447 02:01:03,387 --> 02:01:06,787 Speaker 3: Gold Sport. We will look at that final, I'm sure 2448 02:01:06,867 --> 02:01:09,227 Speaker 3: tomorrow on Weekends Sport wrap it up. Whether it goes 2449 02:01:09,267 --> 02:01:13,627 Speaker 3: Canterbury's way or Otago's. It's all locked up. And incidentally 2450 02:01:13,667 --> 02:01:16,987 Speaker 3: in the World Series as well to a piece at 2451 02:01:17,027 --> 02:01:19,387 Speaker 3: the bottom of the fifth and the opening game between 2452 02:01:19,427 --> 02:01:22,867 Speaker 3: the Dodgers and the Blue Jays. Also tomorrow on the program, 2453 02:01:23,307 --> 02:01:27,107 Speaker 3: the black Caps one day series against England gets underway. 2454 02:01:27,987 --> 02:01:31,747 Speaker 3: He says, weather permitsing. Let's hope so the weather I 2455 02:01:31,787 --> 02:01:34,467 Speaker 3: think looks all right at Bay Overland. Total will take 2456 02:01:34,467 --> 02:01:37,427 Speaker 3: you inside black Caps camp tomorrow as well. We've got 2457 02:01:37,467 --> 02:01:41,027 Speaker 3: the Phoenix to come to and plenty more besides that, 2458 02:01:41,147 --> 02:01:45,147 Speaker 3: but it'll roughly do us for a Saturday afternoonton beverage 2459 02:01:45,147 --> 02:01:49,147 Speaker 3: and next. And Andy, you've been assessing how we're going 2460 02:01:49,187 --> 02:01:51,467 Speaker 3: to go out this afternoon the musical finish. What have 2461 02:01:51,507 --> 02:01:52,027 Speaker 3: you got for us? 2462 02:01:52,187 --> 02:01:55,227 Speaker 23: You alluded it to, alluded to it earlier during in 2463 02:01:55,307 --> 02:01:57,787 Speaker 23: case you missed a basketball action on the court, but 2464 02:01:57,827 --> 02:02:00,747 Speaker 23: a lot of it off the court, well, poker action, 2465 02:02:00,867 --> 02:02:03,387 Speaker 23: if you will, illegal gambling and whatnot. So naturally I've 2466 02:02:03,467 --> 02:02:06,427 Speaker 23: chosen the only appropriate song I could think for it. 2467 02:02:06,507 --> 02:02:09,347 Speaker 23: The Gambler says, all right, pay. 2468 02:02:09,227 --> 02:02:14,387 Speaker 3: Kenney and David see tomorrow, Thanks Andy, And we can't 2469 02:02:14,387 --> 02:02:15,147 Speaker 3: sport down in dust. 2470 02:02:15,787 --> 02:02:18,587 Speaker 9: And the mist that you can hope for is to 2471 02:02:18,787 --> 02:02:20,347 Speaker 9: die and to sleep. 2472 02:02:21,227 --> 02:02:25,987 Speaker 19: And when he finished speaking, he turned back forward the window, 2473 02:02:27,347 --> 02:02:32,227 Speaker 19: crushed out his cigarette. We did off to sleep, and 2474 02:02:32,427 --> 02:02:38,067 Speaker 19: somewhere in the darkness the gambler he broke even But 2475 02:02:38,267 --> 02:02:41,987 Speaker 19: in his final words, I found the age that I 2476 02:02:42,027 --> 02:02:47,547 Speaker 19: could keep. You got no when the hole, No when 2477 02:02:47,667 --> 02:02:52,307 Speaker 19: the fall though, no when the war the weak, and 2478 02:02:52,467 --> 02:02:56,507 Speaker 19: no when in the run you need count your money 2479 02:02:57,187 --> 02:03:01,187 Speaker 19: when you're sitting at the table, There'll be timing up. 2480 02:03:01,347 --> 02:03:06,707 Speaker 24: The count when the deed's done. You got no when 2481 02:03:06,827 --> 02:03:11,627 Speaker 24: the hold, when the whole, No, wind the fold, No, 2482 02:03:11,907 --> 02:03:15,507 Speaker 24: when to walk away, no, when to run. 2483 02:03:15,987 --> 02:03:17,867 Speaker 3: You never count your. 2484 02:03:17,987 --> 02:03:21,107 Speaker 19: Money when you're sitting at the table. 2485 02:03:21,467 --> 02:03:26,547 Speaker 24: There'll be timing up counting when the dealing's done. 2486 02:03:26,907 --> 02:03:29,787 Speaker 8: You got no when the holder. 2487 02:03:30,667 --> 02:03:36,187 Speaker 24: No, when the folder, No, when to walk away, no, 2488 02:03:36,427 --> 02:03:37,547 Speaker 24: when to run. 2489 02:03:37,827 --> 02:03:41,227 Speaker 15: You never count your money when. 2490 02:03:41,067 --> 02:03:42,947 Speaker 9: You're sitting at the table. 2491 02:03:43,307 --> 02:03:46,267 Speaker 4: There'll be timing up the counting. 2492 02:03:46,987 --> 02:03:48,627 Speaker 9: When the deal comes. 2493 02:03:52,027 --> 02:03:55,267 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen Life 2494 02:03:55,307 --> 02:03:58,587 Speaker 1: to news talks It be weekends from midday, or follow 2495 02:03:58,627 --> 02:04:00,187 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio