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Speaker 2: Welcome today show of Winners and Grinners. We got left

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Speaker 2: off in the classroom as the new phonics results, so

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Speaker 2: huge improvement. Our wine sales to the UK breaks records,

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Speaker 2: Tourism arrivals are up, so that's good. Matt Paine is

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Speaker 2: in the reel of Sunday at Bathurst Captain Field and

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Speaker 2: France Rod Liddall in Britain asking welcome to the day,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. A lot of congratulations and rightly so

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Speaker 2: for where we're at currently in the Middle East. But

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Speaker 2: Trump is nowhere further along if you think about it

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Speaker 2: and you know your history, the many others have been

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Speaker 2: before him. Nineteen seventy eight the Camp David Accords KRTI,

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Speaker 2: so that Bagan had worked until it didn't. Nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: one Madrid a conference the older Bush supported by James

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Speaker 2: Baker Gorbaschoff rolled along. Shamir wasn't interested, so that was that.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety three Oslo accord Clinton a two state solution.

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Speaker 2: This was designed to pick up on the Camp David efforts.

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Speaker 2: Israel would recognize the PLO, the PLO would renounce terrorism.

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Speaker 2: Sadly post the signing, violent protests exploded in the West Bank.

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Speaker 2: Israel went after them. That was that so fast forward

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Speaker 2: to today. Releasing prisoners and hostages is great. If the

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Speaker 2: bombing stops in the rubble that is Gaza, that's great.

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Speaker 2: But it's not over. Won't be over, can't be Never

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Speaker 2: has been the basis for what drives the hate is

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Speaker 2: still real today has come about largely because of exhaustion. Also,

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Speaker 2: Trump had guitars back and Katar got bomb by the Israelis.

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Speaker 2: Does Hamas drop weapons? Know is run all in favor

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Speaker 2: of the Israelis all of a sudden, No, what does

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Speaker 2: a two state solution territory wise and tail? The answer

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Speaker 2: is Jerusalem? Of course, is Israel giving up Jerusalem? Slicing Jerusalem?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: They are not. Never forgetting of course that the reason

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Speaker 2: that Yahoo, any Israeli leader is in power is not

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Speaker 2: because of any American president or any series of international

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Speaker 2: pressure groups, but because of the Israeli voter. And as

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Speaker 2: tight as elections have been the side that favors the

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Speaker 2: state has quil on Gaza and the Palestinians remains in power.

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Speaker 2: So what we have today is very good news, and

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Speaker 2: for the next day, days or weeks is very good news.

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Speaker 2: But as for much after that, well, history has already

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Speaker 2: written the story a number of times over.

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Speaker 4: News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety seconds, there's been a day of freedom and

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Speaker 2: praise in the Middle East. The hostages have been returned

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Speaker 2: to families at the summer. No for some though, they

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Speaker 2: will not be returned alive.

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Speaker 5: We were supposed to have all twenty eight parties return today,

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Speaker 5: there haven't been. That's unacceptable, that's against the agreement. And

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Speaker 5: so you know, my thoughts are with those families right

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Speaker 5: now who will be feeling very frustrated, angry.

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Speaker 2: Trump spoke to the kindess that he got standing emotions

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Speaker 2: and only a mindor amount of pushback from some of

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Speaker 2: the far left in there. But he's now in Egypt,

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Speaker 2: really momentous. I've never seen anything like that, the level

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Speaker 2: of love, the level of respect.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's it's peace in.

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Speaker 6: The Middle East that everybody said it's not possible to do,

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Speaker 6: and it's going to happen.

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Speaker 7: And it is happening.

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Speaker 8: Is before you very eye.

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Speaker 2: Next to him was Egypt's president.

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Speaker 9: I've been very confident that your excellency is the only

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Speaker 9: one post tree of've bringing this about and.

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Speaker 2: Rad a end to this room. Marco summed up. The

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Speaker 2: administration's view of the Boss.

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Speaker 9: Is clearly in my mind.

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Speaker 5: I think in the mind of everyone in the room,

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Speaker 5: probably one of the most important days for world peace

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Speaker 5: for fifty years.

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Speaker 7: That's not exaggeration, only fifty war.

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Speaker 2: We'll go to Jerusalem at to seven o'clock. Other Meataws

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Speaker 2: conference seation rolls on in the UK at this time.

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Speaker 2: It's the samp north of the border. Of course, Swen

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Speaker 2: he's running on another independence about if you can believe it,

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Speaker 2: and a lot less London.

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Speaker 10: We must not resign ourselves to a future defined by Brexit.

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Speaker 10: We are certainly not going to allow Ko Stamer or

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Speaker 10: any Westminster politician to define us by brett cards.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Clearly possible breakthrough in regenitive medicine this morning, scientists at

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Speaker 2: the University of Cambridge have lab grind embryo like structures

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Speaker 2: that replicate the early development of the heart. Not only

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Speaker 2: that they're able to produce blood, they're using the structures

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Speaker 2: to study immune developments. It's early stages, but significant, they say. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: could be the future using basically a patient's own cells

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Speaker 2: to repair damage tissue. News of the World in Mighty

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Speaker 2: Trump wasn't done with him Addle East. By the way

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Speaker 2: he was turning attention briefly to Ukraine. He's suggesting now

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Speaker 2: he might well supply tomahawks. That would be a new

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Speaker 2: step of aggression and possibly a game changer. So we

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Speaker 2: watched that with interest. Also, Tony Blair, as I tried

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Speaker 2: and now because hamas said, and the Palestinians generally said,

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Speaker 2: there is no way in the world that guy is

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Speaker 2: running anything to do with Gaza. So it looks like

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Speaker 2: Tony Blair might be Trump suggesting he might not be

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Speaker 2: quote unquote popular enough. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Eb Right China, September. I've got good news. Eight point

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Speaker 2: three percent exports more than they thought, so we'll take that.

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Speaker 2: And if you thought fifty for silver over the weekend

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Speaker 2: was interesting. Analysts are suggesting it's on its way to

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Speaker 2: one hundred. Watch of the Spaceball team pass if your

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Speaker 2: partners Andrew callaher and grew in morning. Very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: For the services, forty eight point three is not where

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Speaker 2: we want to be, not.

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Speaker 4: Really is it.

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Speaker 11: But look, you've got peace in the Middle East and

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Speaker 11: share markets are bouncing. So that's a good start to Tuesday,

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Speaker 11: isn't it. So we'll focus on that, not so much

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Speaker 11: on the performance of services sector. Look, it's a large

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Speaker 11: part of the economy, the services sector circa seventy two

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Speaker 11: seventy three percent of GDP, so this number is an

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd love to give you good news, Mic, but

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Speaker 11: up very, very slightly on the previous month. It's not

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Speaker 11: The measure has been in contraction for nineteen consecutive months.

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Speaker 11: Long term averages fifty two point nine, so he's still

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Speaker 11: be an international outlier.

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Speaker 4: At fifty two point eight.

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Speaker 11: forty eight and a half on a GDP weighted basis,

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Speaker 11: So still in control. If I'm just just think back

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Speaker 11: to the ensed I Quarterly Surveyed Business Opinion MIKE that

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Speaker 2: They need to see more.

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Speaker 11: Well, we're not seeing much of it, and you're not

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Speaker 11: seeing much of a positive response on demand in these

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Speaker 2: others are telling us a flat not backwards anyway. Immigration tourism.

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Speaker 11: I would have thought from the month provisional estimate for

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Speaker 11: way of comparison last year, we had gained fifty one thousand,

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Speaker 11: So we are not importing any more people anymore, Mike.

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Speaker 11: why we talk about needing a circuit breakup. But yes,

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Speaker 11: We might even get above it over the next twelve months.

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Speaker 11: That'd be a good thing, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: It would be a good thing, and they seem bullish

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Speaker 2: about summer. So fingers crossed. We do have light in

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Speaker 11: light traffic index. Heavy traffic index gives you a steer

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Speaker 11: on production. We've lost a little momentum there recently, zero

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Speaker 4: Well, here we go.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the markets have bounced back after that sort

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Speaker 2: New Zealand incause these latest net migration figures show, yes,

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Speaker 2: of sociologist, Back with us, Paul, Morning, Good morning. Make

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Speaker 2: the zero question. I always ask you when you're on

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Speaker 2: What worries you more the number of people leaving, all

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Speaker 12: The people leaving At the moment, people don't arrive during

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Speaker 12: so the numbers drop. As soon as we came out,

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Speaker 6: But we're also.

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Speaker 12: Seeing a growing number of people who are New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Well do we hit?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you say? I mean? Is everyone

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that's the push thing that the labor

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Speaker 12: Increasingly our thirty something, so people have been in our

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Speaker 2: Is it permanent once you land in Australia and you

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Speaker 12: Yep, both of those. I think that we've seen people

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Speaker 12: So we're beginning to see different dynamics in the migration.

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Speaker 4: Year than you are.

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Speaker 12: My employers playing twelve percent superincuation. Come on, join us,

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Speaker 2: Good on your poll. Always enjoy the insight, even if

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Speaker 2: Catlin Field, morning to you. Good morning mate. So Macron's

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Speaker 2: there's what's the vibe in the EU? What is the

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Speaker 2: future of the EU and all these countries? What are

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Speaker 2: you going to do for the Middle East? We have

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Speaker 2: a plan.

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Speaker 3: Well, very difficult for the EU to have a plan,

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Speaker 3: where in fact that the last couple of months, the

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Speaker 3: EU has been making it very clear about what they

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Speaker 3: think about Israeli actions in Gaza and on the West Bank.

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Speaker 3: Essentially they are sidelined so much so that now they're

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Speaker 3: just retrenching and looking at how they can help the

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Speaker 3: Palestinian authority get back some credibility, get some sort of

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Speaker 3: clamp down on the corruption, and of course what the

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Speaker 3: EU has always been doing in Palestine, Palestine and on

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Speaker 3: the West Bank that whole area has been financial support.

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Speaker 3: Over the last two years, they've put in around a

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Speaker 3: billion New Zealand dollars, so of course that's going to

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Speaker 3: be needed, particularly in Gaza. They're also training police and

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Speaker 3: they think that they will have to support those border

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Speaker 3: areas such as the raffi boarding crossings. So essentially back

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Speaker 3: to what it was on the sidelines, leaving everything to

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Speaker 3: the Americans and the Israelis.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, actually, while I've just got you on

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Speaker 2: the war, as war was the tomahawk comments from Trump

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Speaker 2: this morning, you might give the Ukrainians. Is that a

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Speaker 2: game changer? Do we still think about the Ukrainian War

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Speaker 2: was just obsessed with the Middle East of the moment.

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Speaker 3: If you're in Europe, you're still thinking about the Ukraine war.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you that, Mike. Yeah, it would be

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Speaker 3: a game changer. And we've also heard over the weekend

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Speaker 3: that the US military have provided the Ukrainian military with

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Speaker 3: targets within Russia, particularly strategics to targets such as oil refineries,

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing. So, yeah, the game is changing.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we're getting into winter. You know, it's been

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Speaker 3: a year since we were all worried about what was

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Speaker 3: going to happen. Russia has gained very little territory and

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Speaker 3: has lost a lot of its manpower. And we're also

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Speaker 3: starting to see a lot of reports from Russia, particularly

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Speaker 3: about things like petrol shortages, about people actually having to

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Speaker 3: get used to not having Wi Fi because a lot

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Speaker 3: of the Wi Fi the equipment has turned off to

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Speaker 3: try and use it for drones drone technology. So it's

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Speaker 3: starting to affect them in Russia. But as we've always said,

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Speaker 3: the war will go on until Pilton wants it to stop.

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Speaker 2: Explain how this work. So the guy who was there

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Speaker 2: for twenty seven days quits, then he gets reappointed, and

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Speaker 2: then in a sign of some hope that he had

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Speaker 2: revolutionized as cabinet, but he doesn't. So you've got the

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Speaker 2: same PM, the same cabinet. How does doing the same

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Speaker 2: thing change it?

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Speaker 3: Ah, you would be talking about France's second government in

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Speaker 3: a week, Mike. Yes, lots of tantrums going on over

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Speaker 3: the last week, but yes, we do have another government

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Speaker 3: and it's going to could well be a short lived one.

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Speaker 3: He came up with the new government yesterday. A lot

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Speaker 3: of the same figures there, but a few senior civil

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Speaker 3: servants brought in a couple of well regarded figures from

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Speaker 3: civil society and there. It's going to come to a crunch,

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Speaker 3: probably within about twenty four hours, Mike, because we're getting

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Speaker 3: to the point where the government has to put constitutionally

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Speaker 3: it has to put the budget for next year before Parliament.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to do that tomorrow. The new Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister is going to of a policy speech Deparliament on

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Speaker 3: Tuesday afternoon. The far left and the far right in Parliament,

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Speaker 3: who were left out of all the negotiations about who

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Speaker 3: was going to be in the new government, they have

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Speaker 3: already tabled a motion for a no confidence vote in

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Speaker 3: this new government.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we'll see how that one goes for you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that in and out of the EU

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Speaker 2: passport control and entry. Is that running like a Swiss

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Speaker 2: train or a knife.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're anywhere there where, it's working. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean this is the new entry and exit system. You're

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Speaker 3: going to really start noticing it for people who are

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Speaker 3: traveling into the external areas of Shingham, particularly from the

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Speaker 3: UK into France. Essentially, it's that enhanced passport check at

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Speaker 3: the external borders. That's going to mean facial scan and

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Speaker 3: fingerprints for people coming into the wider Shanan area.

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Speaker 2: I should talk Katherine Kefferfield in France for US this morning.

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Speaker 2: Just the other thing of night, by the way, and

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on this. The Dutch government have gone

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Speaker 2: and annexed a company called next Perier. They're Chinese dyeing

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Speaker 2: the chip maker. They're based in the Netherlands, so they're

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Speaker 2: looking to protect the supply of Europeans semiconductors. There are

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Speaker 2: quote unquote serious governance shortcomings. December last year, the US

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Speaker 2: government placed wing Tech. Wing Tech own next Perier. They

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Speaker 2: place wing Tech on their so called entity list. They've

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Speaker 2: identified the company as national security concerns, so there could

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Speaker 2: be some tension between the EU and China in the

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Speaker 2: next week ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vita Retirement Communities News togs headvs.

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Speaker 2: Final Nobel Prize this morning. The names won't mean anything

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Speaker 2: to you. Joel Makiv, Philipp Ellon and Peter Howard are

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Speaker 2: their Nobel Economics Prize winners, having explained innovation driven economic

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Speaker 2: growth basically how innovation and the forces of creative destruction

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Speaker 2: can drive economic growth, explaining how technology gives rise to

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Speaker 2: new products and production methods which replace old ones, resulting

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Speaker 2: in a better standard of living in health and quality

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Speaker 2: of life basically for everyone economic growth. And this is

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Speaker 2: an important point that the committee made. Stagnation, not growth,

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Speaker 2: has been the norm for most of human history. So

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Speaker 2: Makia is that north Western University in the state agjonna

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Speaker 2: Is with the College de France and also at the

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Speaker 2: London School of Economics, and how it's at Brown University. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Moki gets half the prize. I've not seen this before.

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Speaker 2: Three so once against three people doing the work. But

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Speaker 2: Maki gets half the prize. The other two split the

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Speaker 2: other half. So I don't know how that works. I

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Speaker 2: don't know whether they're happy with that. I don't know

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Speaker 2: whether it's even a thing, but they are your Nobel

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Speaker 2: Economics Prize winners for twenty twenty five, five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven, the.

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Speaker 4: In and the Ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the biz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: And the reference that. Briefly, we've got the numbers, the

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Speaker 2: QP House Index numbers out this morning. So what have

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Speaker 2: we got for the September quarter Q three average home

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Speaker 2: across the country's fall and a bit in value one

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Speaker 2: point one percent. That's on average national average is now

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Speaker 2: running at about nine hundred thousand. It's nine hundred thousand,

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Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty one dollars if you want the

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Speaker 2: Chichi precise figures. These reports still compare themselves to the

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Speaker 2: peak of jen of twenty two, so that means overall

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Speaker 2: we're down fourteen percent. Auckland down Big has dropped two

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Speaker 2: and a half percent for the quarter, Wellington down zero

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Speaker 2: point eight, Hamilton down one point six, christ Use down

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Speaker 2: zero point four, Dineedon down zero point two, Nelson one

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Speaker 2: point seven down. A couple of places down south went up.

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Speaker 2: Queenstown not surprisingly increasing one point eight for the quarter.

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Speaker 2: It's average year average price in that particular part of

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Speaker 2: the world now is one point eight eight six million dollars,

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Speaker 2: so it is the most expensive place in the country

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Speaker 2: by a mile. Invercargo was the other one, up one

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Speaker 2: point six percent, Morning Mike. Another consideration for New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: future is that Labor and Co. Will likely be back

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Speaker 2: in power from twenty six or twenty nine, enough to

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Speaker 2: put a shutter up any thinking New Zealand's spine. There's

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Speaker 2: all sorts of interesting things. The migration thing fascinates me endlessly.

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Speaker 2: One is I can mount you have done on this program.

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Speaker 2: I can mount you any number of statistics you want.

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Speaker 2: Steve I've asked him directly the other day said, as

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Speaker 2: Australia going Gangbuster is not not even close. But that

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Speaker 2: clearly isn't what really drives people's movement out of one

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Speaker 2: country and into another. Equally, I can argue, and I've

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Speaker 2: been thinking about this a lot too. Is Labor a

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Speaker 2: possibility in the election of next year? Yes, do I

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Speaker 2: think they're a likely possibility? No, now here's what I

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Speaker 2: think could happen. Don't think it will happen. Could happen, though,

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six Labour losers, that means the end

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Speaker 2: of Hipkins.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 2: Part of the problem with and why the texture is

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Speaker 2: so right is the possibility of labor the Maori Party

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Speaker 2: and the Greens is economically a disaster for this country.

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Speaker 2: So Labour losing twenty six does that mean they'll getting

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Speaker 2: in twenty nine better than even charts? Obviously government lasted

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Speaker 2: a couple of terms, maybe the last three if they

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Speaker 2: go really well, look at Alvin Eazy for goodness sake.

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Speaker 2: But once you get rid of Hipkins, does the labor

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Speaker 2: party view of the world, Because there are labor parties

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Speaker 2: and labor parties. There's a Bob Hawk labor party, there's

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Speaker 2: an Albanezy labor party, there's a Blair labor party, there's

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Speaker 2: a Starmer labor party. What labor party will it be

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Speaker 2: by say twenty twenty nine? That is probably worth thinking about.

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Speaker 4: Credible, compelling.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show, you can't bess it's the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Defender, Embraced the Impossible News Tomstad seven

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Speaker 1: past seven.

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Speaker 2: So you can't argue with the stat I don't think

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Speaker 2: we're rolling in education at the moment. Turnarounds on the

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Speaker 2: new Phonics Literacy program shows as term three fifty eight

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Speaker 2: percent fifty eight of the new entrance or above expectations,

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Speaker 2: which is up from thirty six, and term one forty

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Speaker 2: three percent exceeding expectations, which is double term one. Erica

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Speaker 2: Stanford's the Education Minister back with us, very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Did you have numbers by way of expectation where you

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Speaker 2: just didn't know?

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Speaker 13: We knew what we were probably going to see because

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Speaker 13: I had looked at schools who had already done this

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Speaker 13: for the last five years, and looked at the ADATA,

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Speaker 13: and we knew this is where we probably would be tracking.

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Speaker 13: But when you are rolling something out at scale across

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Speaker 13: the entire country and training over thirty thousand teachers is

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Speaker 13: in a brand new way of teaching reading, you just

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Speaker 13: don't know. So when we did see these figures come in,

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Speaker 13: it was a it was a good day.

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Speaker 2: Mike, is exactly is there more where that came from?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it is a huge amount?

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Speaker 13: This is only one very small snapshot of our little

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Speaker 13: wee tiny five year olds. If they just start school,

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Speaker 13: we track them through so we test them again on

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Speaker 13: the same test at forty weeks, and then of course

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Speaker 13: from next year twice a year every year and reading, writing,

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Speaker 13: and maths, there will be a progress monitoring check in.

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Speaker 13: I dare not call it a test, but we will

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Speaker 13: be essentially assessing every child from year three to make

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Speaker 13: sure that they're on track with their reading, writing, and maths,

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Speaker 13: and that includes high level literacy like comprehension and those other.

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Speaker 2: What we got yesterday, though, is that low hanging fruit?

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Speaker 2: Would you expect something if you change it up and

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Speaker 2: it's simple and it's easy to do or not? So

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Speaker 2: I say that again, is it low hanging fruit? In

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Speaker 2: other words, you're always anyone could do this.

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Speaker 13: No, not anyone could do this because for decades we

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Speaker 13: have been following the three queuing men of look at

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Speaker 13: the picture, guess the word, and the previous government would

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Speaker 13: not put the little liron in the sand and say

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Speaker 13: we're not doing that anymore. We are going to switch

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Speaker 13: to phonics and sounding out the word and learning the

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Speaker 13: code and understanding a letter makes a sound. Now, you

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Speaker 13: can't get these results unless you are a government that's

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Speaker 13: prepared to stand up and say we're going to follow

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Speaker 13: the science and the evidence. James Chapman and New Zealand

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Speaker 13: has been fighting this for thirty years. It looks simple,

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Speaker 13: it looks easy. People are like, oh, it's just phonics.

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Speaker 13: But unless you have a government that's prepared to say

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Speaker 13: we're not going to look at the picture against the

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Speaker 13: word anymore, you don't get these results. So no, it's

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Speaker 13: not easy.

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Speaker 2: So the Kaiapois thing you referenced in the press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 2: where did that come from? And why weren't we doing it? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Because the question that came out to be Kiapoy answer

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Speaker 2: was a good one. Why aren't we or haven't we

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Speaker 2: been doing it?

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Speaker 13: Because we new Zealand was the home of balanced literacy

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Speaker 13: and reading recovery, which was look at the picture and

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Speaker 13: guess the word. And we grew that movement and spread

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Speaker 13: it around the rest of the world. And we've been

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Speaker 13: hanging on to it desperately, even in the face of

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Speaker 13: declining data and evidence to show that it didn't work.

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Speaker 13: And I don't honestly, I don't know why, because there

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Speaker 13: are people who have been fighting it forever, but principles

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Speaker 13: like Jason Miles at Kayapoy and many others took that

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Speaker 13: step and did it themselves anyway, which helped me give

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Speaker 13: me the confidence in the data I needed to do it.

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Speaker 13: But look, I can't answer why we haven't done this earlier.

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Speaker 13: It's just honestly, it probably needed a government that was

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Speaker 13: prepared to, like I say, put that line in the sand,

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Speaker 13: and we did that.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time very much, Erica Stamp for Education Minister.

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Speaker 4: Ten past seven Pasky.

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Speaker 2: At least, so far, so good. Twenty living hostages back

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Speaker 2: via the Red Cross. Israel released nearly two thousand prisoners.

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Speaker 2: The US President left Israel and as you've heard, has

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Speaker 2: been in Egypt as part of the so called peace process.

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Speaker 2: Steve Linder is with CBS Radio in Jerusalem, is back

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Speaker 2: with this morning.

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Speaker 7: Hello from Jerusalem.

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Speaker 2: How did it feel.

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 16: It today felt like really a very dramatic day here

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Speaker 16: in Israel. For the first time, I personally felt like

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Speaker 16: I could breathe. After the war was over after two

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Speaker 16: really long, harrowing years, and Israel's twenty live hostages were freed,

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Speaker 16: four bodies were released, even though there's still another twenty

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Speaker 16: four that are being delayed for some reason. And Israel,

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Speaker 16: for its part, three two thousand Palestinian prisoners, many of

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Speaker 16: them convicted terrorists.

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Speaker 7: So all in all, it was an incredibly dramatic day.

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Speaker 16: And now they're having a big summit in Sharmel, in

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Speaker 16: sharmal Seche, the resort town in Egypt where I've just

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Speaker 16: come from, and it.

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Speaker 7: Should be a very dramatic time.

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Speaker 16: But yes, the highlight probably was the hostage release from

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Speaker 16: Israel's point of view, the Palestinian prisoner released from the

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Speaker 16: Palestinian point of view, and the end of the war

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Speaker 16: from the point of view of the hole.

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Speaker 2: At least, plenty of standing evotions in the Kanesse for

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Speaker 2: the US president. Is he a hero, was seen as

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Speaker 2: a hero locally there at the moment.

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Speaker 16: Well, he certainly was given a heroes welcome in the Casset,

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Speaker 16: and he spoke for a very long time, over an hour.

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Speaker 16: But there were a couple of interruptions, including from two

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Speaker 16: members of Knesset from the left to try to interrupt,

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Speaker 16: and they were very quickly evicted from the parliamentary building.

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Speaker 16: But otherwise he was given a standing ovation all the

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Speaker 16: way through, and literally everything he said, and he said

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Speaker 16: some crazy things.

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Speaker 7: Was well received in Israel.

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Speaker 2: This the next few days, the next few weeks, whatever

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Speaker 2: has Diday been the easy part? In other words, does

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Speaker 2: piece hold, is the war really over? Do they rebuild Gaza?

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Speaker 2: Is the agnaflow and all the other questions.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think the fact, seriously that President Trump has

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Speaker 16: put the full weight of his office behind the steal

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Speaker 16: is very significant, and it's taken a while, but he

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Speaker 16: really has shown that together with Qatar and Egypt and

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Speaker 16: the other media mediators, he can push them all to

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Speaker 16: make a deal. So yes, for the first time, there

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Speaker 16: is hope, hopeful feeling in the air, but you can

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Speaker 16: you can never tell, you know, the Middle East is

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Speaker 16: a very volatile place and literally anything can spark it

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Speaker 16: off again. And I'm just hoping from Israel's point of

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Speaker 16: view that the rest of the bodies are found and returned,

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Speaker 16: because that could be problematic. And from the Palestinian point

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Speaker 16: of view, you know, I hope that they don't feel

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Speaker 16: it necessary now to resume some of the terrorist campaign

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Speaker 16: against Israel, because you know, this has been a really

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Speaker 16: terrible two years for both sides.

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Speaker 2: To appreciate Steveland, who's with CBS in Jerusalem this morning,

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes past seven, Erica Stafford's amazing, so passionate and

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Speaker 2: enthusiastic labour didn't like to test our children as they

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Speaker 2: wanted them all the same level. Brilliant new she succeeding. Wow,

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Speaker 2: look at what happens Mike when your test kids get

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Speaker 2: rid of the wok idea that it stresses them out,

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Speaker 2: and focus on what's actually going to set these kids

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Speaker 2: up for a future, Michae. All we can hope is

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Speaker 2: that if we go back to a labor government, all

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Speaker 2: of Erica's great work is not undone out of spite. Well,

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Speaker 2: history tells us an interesting story there. Go back Minister

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Speaker 2: of Education Christopher Hipkins and have a look at what

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Speaker 2: he did to charter schools, and that was out of spite.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen past the High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: At be looking forward to the catch up with Matt Paine.

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Speaker 2: What a weekend, What a history changing, career changing weekend

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Speaker 2: it was for Matt Paeney's with us live out of Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: After eight o'clock this morning, seventeen past New Incite meantime

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Speaker 2: into our wine industry, things look well, they look awesome

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Speaker 2: as far as they can work out. In Britain, simming

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Speaker 2: on blanc Shipment's ten year high, sports are up twenty

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Speaker 2: one percent year on year. We now own about half

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Speaker 2: of the two and a half billion dollar UK sab

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Speaker 2: blanc market. Tim Lightbourn is of course co founder of

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Speaker 2: ban Biever and he's back with us.

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Speaker 4: Tim Morning home, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Do you do well in the UK as well as

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Speaker 2: the industry, Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 9: It's one of our biggest markets actually and it's going

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Speaker 9: really well for us.

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Speaker 2: And so how does it work? Is it just serving

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Speaker 2: you on blanc or is it a few bits and

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Speaker 2: pieces as well?

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Speaker 9: It's pretty much just seven on blancs doing a majority

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Speaker 9: of the volume up there. You know, UK had a

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Speaker 9: really good summer in New Zealand and seventy was it

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Speaker 9: go to you talked about August? We sent or the

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Speaker 9: industry sent one point one million cases up there, so

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Speaker 9: about thirteen point two million bottles just in August.

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Speaker 2: Wowsers. And is it weather related economy because I would

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Speaker 2: have told you the British economy is a bit problematic.

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Speaker 9: It was they had good weather. We would we could

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Speaker 9: track their weather once it we went over about twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty two degrees you could see New Zealand and Sevenyon

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Speaker 9: firing over the till on that day, So that.

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Speaker 2: Great great weather.

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Speaker 9: But also shift away from heavy reds. So we can

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Speaker 9: see Malbeck, Charraz, Mirlow, Cabinet seven, Yaron all down as well,

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Speaker 9: and chadone is down too. So New Zealand's avenyone has

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Speaker 9: become the go.

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Speaker 2: To fantastic who competes with us in the Serbinion bloc

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Speaker 2: market in that part of the world. Wars that come

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Speaker 2: from South Africa or Chili or where.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, South Africa and Chili are sort of our main

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Speaker 9: competitors really a back from the US, but mainly from

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Speaker 9: South Africa.

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Speaker 2: And what price point do we unload this stuff to

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Speaker 2: your average palm?

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Speaker 9: So the positive is that we're premium to the whole category, right,

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Speaker 9: so we're about seventeen percent higher than the average bottle price,

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Speaker 9: so we're not giving the stuff away. We're still commanding

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Speaker 9: a premium, which is key.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. I talked to Philip greg In a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago. We seem to grow now a lot

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Speaker 2: of grapes. The last season we had a tremendous number

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Speaker 2: of gropes. A lot of them got left on the vine.

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Speaker 2: Are we growing too many grapes or not?

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Speaker 9: It's a balance, I think, you know, with its demand

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Speaker 9: at the moment and if we can keep cracking the US,

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Speaker 9: we may not have enough, but it is a balance

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Speaker 9: every year, so we're just going to keep an eye

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Speaker 9: on it and not not lie the price too much.

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Speaker 2: And what's your vibe on the Serving yon Blanc story

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Speaker 2: And you know, in a multi decade success story, is

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Speaker 2: the world ever going to get sick of what we do?

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Speaker 2: In the Serving Yon Blanc department, thigive an indication.

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Speaker 9: I was with two of the largest retailers in the

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Speaker 9: UK last week and they just want to keep the

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Speaker 9: pump on. They don't talk about sevenynths at a getting saturated.

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Speaker 9: They want to keep going. Next week we're in the

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Speaker 9: US and they're the same. So but we're only half

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Speaker 9: half markets of Australia at the moment, so there's still

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Speaker 9: plenty of wrenth to grow.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic good to catch up. Appreciate it very much to Lightbourn,

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Speaker 2: who's out of in Vibo problems and broadcasting at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Among the Maori department, I have a solution I think

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Speaker 2: MARI television news. Right, a couple of programs are facing

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Speaker 2: The reality for media that is funded by the state,

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Speaker 2: How is it, as we have seen this past week,

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00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: that all we ever get when funding gets adjusted is

869
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: a complaintethon. Basically a lot of moaning and bitching people

870
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: bemoaning their lot, fearing change. Here's your solution. If these

871
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: programs are of value as they claim they are, what

872
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: is stopping? What is ever going to the commercial sector

873
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: to get advertising or sponsorship support? Why is the government

874
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: the taxpayer the only source of income? If the Mari

875
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: news programs are so valuable, where's the Marie economy? The

876
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: Marie economy I have read any number of times, is booming.

877
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: There are any number of success stories in the Marie economy.

878
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: It's a growth sector. It is by some reports, indeed,

879
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: a booming sector. Investment has led to expansion and reinvestment

880
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: and riches. Where are they? Why aren't they advertising or

881
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: sponsoring these maor products? Can they not see the synergies?

882
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: How is it the connection has not been made? Business

883
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: is always looking for advertising or marketing outlets. Why are

884
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: the makers, producers and hosts of these programs not looking

885
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: to the commercial sector for an ongoing and stable level

886
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: of support. Why is the taxpayer the sole provider of

887
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: their paychecks? If you've got a product worth its salt,

888
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: if you are what you claim, relevant, popular and good

889
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: at what you do, there's always an answer. Asking now,

890
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: a couple of things on last night's pole. What I

891
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: like about last night's poll is it reminds us why

892
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: we really need to pay very little attention to holes.

893
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: So point number one are just to take one reference

894
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: out of last night's pole, National remained steady on thirty

895
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: four percent. Do they well they might last week there

896
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: were twenty nine. So the Careier poll last night. Last

897
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: week had them on twenty nine. Last night had them

898
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: on thirty four. That's a five point difference. That's the

899
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: difference between government and opposition. That's a difference between a

900
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: win and a loss, and a big one at that

901
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: or indeed, it could be anywhere in between. And of

902
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: course it's outside of the plus or minus three percent.

903
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: So therefore the credibility of poles once again has to

904
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: be you know, at least asked about. So the margin

905
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: of era is the interesting and this poll last night

906
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: the current government retains power and by some margin. The

907
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: other interesting thing was the subsession the media seems to

908
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: have with the Prime minister. Who's the popular prime minister?

909
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: Luxon's underwater? Tell you who else is underwater? Elbow? Look

910
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: at the numbers yesterday, Elbow's a mile underwater. Australian's allegedly

911
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: hate Elbow. He's a negative territory. But hold on, wait

912
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: a minute. Didn't Elbow hold an election? Yes he did?

913
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: And did Elbow win that election? Yes he did. Did

914
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: Elbow win by a record of margin, Yes he did.

915
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: So what people tell you in a poll bears no

916
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: relevance or reference whatsoever to what they will do on

917
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: election day. And that is why we keep saying that

918
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: election day is the only poll that counts. How is

919
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: it that Elbow can be so negative? And yet when

920
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: an election by so much so successful was Elbow, they

921
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: now talk of them not only two but three terms

922
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: and counting. And yet he's still negative. So a little

923
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: bit of perspective is required. So which is the right number,

924
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 2: and given it could be any one of them last night's,

925
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: last week's or any number in between, that currently is

926
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: the value of polls news. And then we'll get into tourism.

927
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate, the my casking

928
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the buyers.

929
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: Others can't use togs dead body.

930
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: Three minutes away from mad Pain to relive Baptists for

931
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: us after eight o'clock this morning. Meantime, excuse me, we

932
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: might have some real hope and tourism here. I think

933
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: international visitors were up seven and a half percent in August,

934
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: so we now set at eighty eight percent pre COVID.

935
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: It's all Australia that is over half of all arrivals

936
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: of fifty two percent. China's at nine, the US is

937
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: at five. Grant Webster is the chief executive Tourism Holdings

938
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: and is with us. Grant morning, Good morning. How bullish

939
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: are you?

940
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 8: Yeah? Really bullish. Let's get excited about tourism at the time.

941
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Good So some talk that summer could see us back

942
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: at one hundred. Do you think that's true?

943
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 8: No, not the summer. But you know we're well on track.

944
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 8: Look at that percentages that you were just talking about.

945
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 8: So we're well on track. We're heading to the right place.

946
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: Do you think we're overly reliant on Australia or.

947
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 8: Is just what it is now? It's a time of

948
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 8: the year and it's where some of the campaigns have been.

949
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 8: So if you look at the forwards from some of

950
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 8: our more traditional markets that are all well up as well.

951
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 8: So now that's just a time of year and things

952
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 8: that are being focused on at the moment.

953
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: Okay, good, So the campaigns I was going to ask about,

954
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: do campaigns work and if they do, should we do

955
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: more of them?

956
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 8: Yes? And yes, and the funding is there to do

957
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 8: more of them. And we've just got to make sure

958
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 8: that we're not taking a sugar hit, sugar rush kind

959
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 8: of approach to things and making sure that we're getting

960
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 8: sustainable about that something.

961
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: Because we did an interview a couple of weeks ago,

962
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: there was a regional initiative representing the North Island. Should

963
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: we be selling New Zealand as New Zealand or can

964
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: individual bits of New Zealand sell themselves internationally without splitting

965
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: the market too much?

966
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 8: Again, it's and both. So the South Island's been campaigning

967
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 8: in that way for a number of years, so great

968
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 8: to see the North Island respond accordingly. You do get

969
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 8: customers that do one island all the other, so that's fine.

970
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, tourist of New

971
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 8: Zealand sells New Zealand and they sell it well, so

972
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 8: let's just keep supporting them and keep going. It's good

973
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 8: for the economy.

974
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: We know that I read some Golden Week's stats the

975
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: Chinese are moving again, particularly to the UAE. But we

976
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: were in there is there something coming with the Chinese?

977
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: Are they back ish?

978
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 8: I think that coming back? I think you know, the

979
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 8: Minister went up there a couple of weeks ago. Everything

980
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 8: I heard from that trip was extremely positive. Air capacity

981
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 8: starting to come back, Visa situations have been pretty well sorted.

982
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 8: So yeah, that's another one of those momentum points. So

983
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 8: I think you're going to see the next twelve months

984
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 8: really positive for newsialterers good.

985
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: So is the government doing all they can on those visas,

986
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: pulling all those leaders they can?

987
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Administer APS has listened really really well to

988
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 8: the industry and when you look at the event funding

989
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 8: that was announced a few weeks ago, when you look

990
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 8: at the visa changes, yes, is the simplanswer to that.

991
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: And the capacity on airlines where are we at with it?

992
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 8: So we still want more. So we've only got small

993
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 8: single digit growth in their capacity this calendar year. Australia

994
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 8: is outstripping us in their capacity and that's something we

995
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 8: have to continue to watch. It'd be great to see

996
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 8: the government lean into that as their next initiative. And

997
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 8: then that would set us up again for a much

998
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 8: much better calendar twenty six and we can get back

999
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 8: to that one hundred percent sooner than what some of

1000
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 8: us are anticipating.

1001
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: And your company is doing, how New Zealand is doing

1002
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: or have you got to do diferent story?

1003
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 8: No, from an international tourism into New Zealand, we are

1004
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 8: doing the same more better than the broader stats. I mean,

1005
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 8: from an employment perspective, Mike, we're looking at employing right

1006
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 8: at the moment, We've got about one hundred and fifty

1007
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 8: people we're looking to employee it this summer and that's

1008
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 8: up about close to twenty percent on last year. Wow,

1009
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: that gives you a pretty good indication of the difference

1010
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 8: that this industry can make to the economy.

1011
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Fantastic, And are people easy to get or not?

1012
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 8: It's much easier than what it's been historically. Now obviously

1013
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 8: is not necessarily a good indicator for the broader economy,

1014
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 8: but no, we're happy with large, large number of applicants

1015
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 8: for all sorts of roles.

1016
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 17: Good.

1017
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: And what do you make of the dollar? I mean,

1018
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: if you're handing over forty three p or whatever it

1019
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: is at the moment, I mean that we've got to

1020
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: look at bargain, don't.

1021
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 8: We exactly right? You're on it again. We are, we are,

1022
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 8: We are a bargain. Australia is a bargain, so this

1023
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 8: region in particular when you think that the US still

1024
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 8: hasn't got the mojo back yet. So you know, we've

1025
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 8: got to make the most of that at the moment,

1026
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 8: and we are well done.

1027
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: I know you're in a part of the world where

1028
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 2: it's four thirty in the morning, so I do appreciate

1029
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: you getting up early for us very much. Nice to

1030
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: Nice to talk to your Grant Webster, who is the

1031
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 2: chief executive Tourism Holdings four thirty five here Wednesday. Simon

1032
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: Watts Award for appearing on the program at an inopportune

1033
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: moment twenty one. No, it's not nineteen minutes away from

1034
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 2: eight kers being to the Ordland to go to doubtful sound.

1035
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: Tourists everywhere, full boats, full buses, good good, good, Mike.

1036
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: What's wrong with Australians. You made it sound like it

1037
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: was a bad thing. No, I didn't mean for that.

1038
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, in any given market, you want

1039
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: to diversify when your entire world is potentially your customer base.

1040
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 2: To have fifty two percent from a singular country makes

1041
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: you overly reliant on that singular country. And if that

1042
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: country wakes up one day and decides that we're no

1043
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: fun anymore, that's a lot of market share to lose.

1044
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: So diversifications, the key, eggs and baskets, all that stuff.

1045
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Eighteen two Good The Mike Asking Breakfast a full show

1046
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,959
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1047
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: It'd be.

1048
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: I was somewhat in Bolden yesterday when I saw Brian

1049
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: Tommicky had failed to get permission to walk across the

1050
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge in Auckland for another one of his protests.

1051
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: The sooner we get. I just don't know why we

1052
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: don't have rules in this country around these sort of things.

1053
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: They do it all the time in Australia, it ends

1054
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: up in court. Nothing seems to end up in court

1055
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: in this country. Nobody seems to go to court and

1056
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: there seems to be no rules around. There are certain

1057
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: things or certain places. They had the Sydney Opera House

1058
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: the other day that they weren't allowed to go for

1059
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: a pro Palestinian march. The police went to court and

1060
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: said it's insane. It's just trouble waiting to happen. So

1061
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: the judge rule in their favor. Why don't we have

1062
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: rules whereby there are certain plants, yeah, like State Highway one.

1063
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: Blocking people from going about their business is not part

1064
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: of your protest movement. So anyway, Tamicky was going to

1065
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: go across the Auckland Harbor Bridge on Labor weekend, but

1066
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: they said forget it. He claims he had postponed it. Anyway,

1067
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: But back and forth it goes. So the fear of that,

1068
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: that sort of nonsense. We have the better from the

1069
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: n ZBA, the Banking Association. I think I've got good

1070
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: news on money generally this morning. The first town buyers

1071
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 2: very much back in the housing market, which is good.

1072
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: Hardship status is down, so that's encouraging. Only six seven

1073
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen people were in some sort of trouble

1074
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: in the first six months of this year, which is

1075
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 2: hardly anybody. Once I tell you how many home loans

1076
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: were put out about the place. Home loan areas as

1077
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: steady hard leaning ones and home loan arears one point

1078
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: five percent, so that's encouraging. And there were sixty for

1079
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: the period there were sixty thousand, two hundred and forty

1080
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: nine new home loans. Twenty five percent of them were

1081
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: first home buyers. So don't tell me that the first

1082
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: home buyers can't afford a home, because they can. Carl

1083
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: came around to the house yesterday. You'll be thrilled to know.

1084
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: I know you spent a bit of the time yesterday

1085
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: worrying about me and my coffee machine. But I'm here

1086
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: to report it to all good news. As it turns out,

1087
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: it was an interesting emotional day for me because the

1088
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: other thing that came out of Carl is Carl's been

1089
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: to our place before, and he's done the coffee machine before.

1090
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: But Katie put out a bit of a call for

1091
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: a couple of other people to come around and maybe,

1092
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: you know, enjoy the business at our place of fixing

1093
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: my constantly broken coffee machine away I know, and ring

1094
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: back and so in a cost of living crisis, once again,

1095
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: I reiterate the business to people want business or not?

1096
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: Is it really that hard, honestly to ring back and

1097
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: say I'm busy or I'm flat out, or I've got

1098
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: so much business I don't have time for yours, or

1099
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yes, I can come around in a week, say,

1100
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: or just ring back. Is it that hard? Can't be

1101
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: that hard, But people find it too hard to ring back.

1102
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: If you find it too hard to ring back, you'll

1103
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: be amazed at how slow your business can be. Anyway,

1104
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: cartoons up, and I'm in a relationship with my machine.

1105
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: And without sounding like too big a pratt, I have

1106
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: now three machines. So one machine he offered to take away,

1107
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: which is in a cupboard that needs a part, and

1108
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: he offered to take it away, get the part, put

1109
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 2: it back together in all its glory, and I thought,

1110
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: that's a good idea, so we'll do that. The other

1111
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: machine I had, which I bought when the first machine

1112
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: and the cupboard broke down, is an okay machine. It's

1113
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: not a great machine. It's a fine machine. It's a

1114
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: machine that coffee snobs are going you go one of those,

1115
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: Hey loser anyway, So I've got one of those machines.

1116
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: So I'm not emotionally attached to that machine. But the

1117
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: one at home I am attached to because I worked

1118
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: out it's a two thousand and eight model, so I've

1119
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: had it for whatever number of years that is, and

1120
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: it's still going and there comes a point in life,

1121
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: and it's like relationships. There comes a point in life

1122
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: where you go, you know what, You're quite good. I

1123
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: quite like you. And this one at home's a commercial machine,

1124
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: and so it's got that. I'm a serious machine. I'm

1125
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: not to be messed with. Yes, I'll break down a

1126
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: lot because I was made in Italy, but all things

1127
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: made and literally breakdown a lot. But stick with me

1128
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: because I'm quite good looking, and I've got a personality,

1129
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: and I'm quirky, and you've known me for a while

1130
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: and you've come to lost it.

1131
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 9: Hang on, is this the machine?

1132
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 8: Are you trying to convince the listeners to keep listening

1133
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 8: to you?

1134
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: It's the machine, right, it's the machine. And so when

1135
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: Carl came around, he's starting with very negative Carl. Initially

1136
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: he started indicating that things might not be able to

1137
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: go well anymore. And I thought, oh my god, it's

1138
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: the end of the machine, machine exactly. My default position

1139
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: immediately is twofold one is right, had a good time

1140
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: with it, no problems. That's the life of the machine.

1141
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: Fifteen sixteen years. We'll move on. Second reaction default position

1142
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: is oh cool, I could buy a new machine. Then

1143
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: he said, don't worry, I can fix it. Went oh,

1144
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: So then I thought I'm stuck with the old machine.

1145
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: But then I went, no, but I love my machine.

1146
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: It's such a cool machine. So anyway, put it back

1147
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: together again, and it's working fantastically, and so I've got it.

1148
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 2: Next time, no exactly, and there will be next time.

1149
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 2: There will be a next time. But I am now

1150
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: so in love with my machine. I am determined to

1151
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: keep it alive for as long as I'm alive. I

1152
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: want to die with my machine.

1153
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 8: So I've sort of going a coffee style Terry Shivo situation.

1154
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: There's something weird going on. Did I sound weird and

1155
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: offering that explanation? Or is everyone with a coffee machine going?

1156
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: I hear you, brother? Ten minutes away from eight.

1157
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 4: The mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender and news Togs

1158
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: dead b.

1159
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: Right, I was having away from Matt Paine is going

1160
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: to be with us after right. But he isn't the

1161
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: only young young New Zealander whos made a bit of history.

1162
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: Riley James is your new youngest ever New Zealander to

1163
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: win the National super Championships average age of the competitors.

1164
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: He was fifty one, Riley sixteen Riley James as well

1165
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: this morning. Good morning and Warmer's congratulations. Tell us about

1166
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: the tournament. What did you think your chances were going in?

1167
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 8: I think my.

1168
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 17: Chances were always high from the practice table. I always

1169
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 17: knew if I was in the right head space. I

1170
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 17: play some of the best snooker in the country.

1171
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: So how much time do you spend practicing.

1172
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 15: I've actually not been.

1173
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 17: Playing a lot of snooker for the last month. I've

1174
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 17: been playing just eight ball, Paul as I have a

1175
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 17: lot of poll tournaments, and so I actually haven't spent

1176
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 17: a lot of time practicing snooker. But if I do,

1177
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 17: maybe two to three.

1178
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 15: Hours a day.

1179
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: Because I watched your final, and to get to the

1180
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: final you beat the number one ranked player and the

1181
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: number two ranked players, so it's not like you weren't

1182
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: tests today.

1183
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, and I and I was behind them both

1184
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 15: of the game.

1185
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: So fantastic.

1186
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 15: How to pull it out?

1187
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: You're not professional? Will I take it?

1188
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 15: Are you?

1189
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 17: I'm not professional?

1190
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: Do you think you will be?

1191
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 17: I will definitely be a professional and a Q sport discipline.

1192
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 17: I don't know if it will be snooker, but I'll

1193
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 17: definitely be a prayer at something.

1194
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: When do you think you'll turn pro?

1195
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 17: Hopefully by the age of eighteen to twenty, so.

1196
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: You've got a couple of years to go. Where do

1197
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: you think you are form wise? Currently? You still improving?

1198
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: I'm always improving, good mind you? What was eleven frames?

1199
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: Was the format? What was your average break? Were you

1200
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: scoring well?

1201
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 17: I was struggling quite a bit throughout the tournament, but

1202
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 17: I'm always a heavy score so I think I'd be

1203
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 17: averaging thirty plus every time someone leaves me on, hopefully

1204
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 17: or I like to think that.

1205
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: So how did you get into Q sports?

1206
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 8: Through my dad?

1207
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: My dad?

1208
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 17: My dad used to play a bit of Paul so

1209
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 17: I can play one day and I wanted to pick

1210
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 17: up a queue.

1211
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: What do you reckon it is? Do you reckon it's

1212
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: God given it's natural or anyone can really learn it?

1213
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 17: I think to a certain extent is natural ability. But

1214
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 17: anyone could pick up a Q and be pretty good

1215
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 17: at it.

1216
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: And back next year to defend your title.

1217
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 14: One.

1218
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: What's your top break?

1219
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 17: By the way, my highest break, and I've practiced by

1220
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 17: myself as I've had multiple one four sevens well in

1221
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 17: a game, it's one hundred and thirty.

1222
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty is very good score at the

1223
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: best of times. In the one four seven's given you

1224
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: playing with nobody, you wouldn't freak yourself out, would you.

1225
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 17: No?

1226
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: No, it's normal you reckon you do one four seven

1227
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: under pressure.

1228
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 17: Maybe I'd like to say the highest I've ever got

1229
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 17: to and a one four seven is about the eighty

1230
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 17: and ninety range.

1231
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: What's the prize? By the way, do you get a

1232
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: player trophy?

1233
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 17: Yeah? I got a big trophy that I can't take

1234
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 17: to my house, but I did get two miniature trophies.

1235
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: But the big one's got your name on it, and

1236
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: that's all that counts.

1237
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, that stays there forever.

1238
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: Good on your mate, Well done Riley James, New Zealand

1239
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: Snooker Champion sixteen unreal overnight in China. Mark Williams boat

1240
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: sure murphy in the current final of that particular tournament.

1241
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: Mark Williams is fifty, so he's at the other end

1242
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: of the spectrum of Riley. But if you ever want

1243
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: to see, if you ever want to see a style

1244
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: of player, I mean, Ronnie's your ultimate and just about

1245
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: every aspect of snooker obviously, But if you ever want

1246
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: to see a guy walk a table with confidence and

1247
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: strike a ball with just an ease that you wonder

1248
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: how it's possible. He looks that fluid, that good, that relaxed,

1249
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: that cool. Mark Williams as your man now, Matt Paine,

1250
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: if talking of success over the weekend, this Bathhurist thing was,

1251
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't just Bathhurst. It wasn't just a win. It

1252
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: was a win for the ages. Given the circumstances. We

1253
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: relived the magic with Matt Payne next.

1254
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast with

1255
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: a Vita, retirement, communities, life your way, news talk said?

1256
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: Be it a seven past day Sunday on the mountain

1257
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: in New Zealand Sports Story of the year so far.

1258
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: Matt Payne wins Bathhurstay started eighteenth and yet another lesson

1259
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: that one hundred and sixty one laps is a long

1260
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: way and when the rain arrives, it's all on. He

1261
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: joins the greats Murphy, Van Gisbergen and McLaughlin. He's still

1262
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: only twenty three and Matt Payne is with us. Matt,

1263
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, Mike.

1264
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 8: How are you very well?

1265
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: Indeed you're back home?

1266
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 15: I am back home. I just we drove back from

1267
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 15: Bathurst back to Melbourne yesterday.

1268
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: Fantastic. What was Sunday night?

1269
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 3: Like?

1270
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 15: It was cool? It was really awesome too, Yeah, so great.

1271
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 15: What was an amazing day with all the team and

1272
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 15: all the guys and girls. They really enjoyed it. Yeah,

1273
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 15: we had a good celebration in some of them. Yeah,

1274
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 15: went a little bit harder than myself, but I think

1275
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 15: they deserved it.

1276
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: There are so many parts of it that I can relive.

1277
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: I mean, did it feel at the time in any way,

1278
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: shape or form enjoyable like this was something profoundly brilliant

1279
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: that was unfolding.

1280
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 15: That's a good question. There was a lot of moments

1281
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 15: during that last phase where I was in the car

1282
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 15: and it was really wet where it was it was

1283
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 15: actually really sketchy in those conditions, Like there was a

1284
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 15: couple of times where all I was thinking was just

1285
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 15: actually trying to just stay on the road there was

1286
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 15: that much water down. But there were parts, you know,

1287
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 15: obviously before I got in and watching the battles that

1288
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 15: the race was already having when it just started to rain,

1289
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 15: and I think, you know, thinking about it from a

1290
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 15: punter's point of view. I think it would have been

1291
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 15: pretty enjoyable to watch, but being and the cop it was, yeah, pretty.

1292
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: Hard work at the end of it. When the cloud

1293
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: came over the top of the mountain as well as

1294
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: the rain, was that unnerving.

1295
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 15: No, I don't think so, Like we've done so many laps,

1296
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 15: you know at that point, so we were you know,

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Speaker 15: I think everyone everyone just was built in on muscle

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01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 15: memory and just driving around. But yeah, every lap I

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Speaker 15: was going over it was getting slightly worse. So I

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01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 15: think if we were out there for maybe another ten minutes,

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01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 15: it could have got quite quite sketchy and quite dangerous.

1302
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: What did you make and a couple of laps to go?

1303
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: Golding and Murray are in front of you, and you're

1304
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: going up the hill and they take each other, well,

1305
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: they sort of take each other out, tap you get

1306
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: your big break? Did you think something like that could happen?

1307
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: Did you have a plan at that point?

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01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, well I initially tried to have a guy at

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 15: Cooper and I kind of knew that I was I

1310
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 15: needed to do it quite cleanly because I've sort of

1311
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 15: race coupe for a while and you know, obviously with

1312
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 15: that amount of pressure on and and the wind right

1313
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 15: there for him. I knew he was going to race

1314
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 15: really hard, so I kind of knew that Golding was

1315
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 15: going to I knew he was going to have a crack,

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01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 15: and he was really fast, so I kind of had

1317
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 15: a feeling something was going to happen. But when I

1318
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 15: saw him get a really good run out of turn one,

1319
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 15: and I knew he's probably going to have a go here,

1320
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 15: and I knew it was it was going to be

1321
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 15: dicey trying to pass into turn two, and yeah, as

1322
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 15: soon as the as as he turned him, I just thought, shit,

1323
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 15: I'm going to do a Bradbury.

1324
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: Once you hit the lead, do you become nervous or

1325
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: does your mindset ads in any way, shape or form

1326
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: or not.

1327
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 15: Oh, it definitely adjusted a bit. I knew that. I

1328
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 15: knew that I really still had to keep pushing, you know.

1329
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 15: And and it's really hard when you're out in front

1330
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 15: because you don't have any reference from the car in

1331
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 15: front of you, so it's really hard to pick where

1332
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 15: you're going to break how much grip do he thinks

1333
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 15: at the corner, especially because it actually was drying up

1334
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 15: a little bit, and that made it quite hard to

1335
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 15: find a little bit extra speed, and James behind me

1336
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 15: was was obviously he was really fast and he was

1337
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 15: able to sort of break off me and catch up

1338
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 15: to me as well as Dave as well. So yeah,

1339
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 15: there certainly was a mindset shift, but especially you know

1340
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 15: the last lap, you know, was I don't think I

1341
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 15: was thinking about anything.

1342
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: I was trying to survive, so as your engineer in

1343
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: your ear a lot at that point or.

1344
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 15: No, Yeah, he actually did a really good job. You know,

1345
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 15: like if if you were to listen back to the

1346
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 15: radio coms, you know, just of our last twenty laps,

1347
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 15: it probably wouldn't sound like we were, you know, trying

1348
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 15: to win the death of this one tho. Isn't it

1349
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 15: sounds like he was we were just out of practice

1350
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 15: day and he was we were just doing the race

1351
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 15: run or something like that. He was he was awesome

1352
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 15: at staying carm and that makes it difference when you're

1353
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 15: so in the heat at the moment and you're just

1354
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 15: trying to make all the right decisions, And that certainly

1355
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 15: is definitely a good thing to have.

1356
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: The fascinating thing for I mean, I suppose all of

1357
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: us is is the shootout which you'll want to be

1358
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: part of and all that sort of stuff, and you've

1359
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: had last time you're on this program, we talked about

1360
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: your quality speed, which is great, and it wasn't that

1361
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: great that day. But I mean, the shootout is sort

1362
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: of a separate event, isn't it, because it doesn't matter

1363
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: where you start, its literally anything can happen.

1364
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 15: Yeah, certainly, I definitely still knew that, you know, even

1365
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 15: starting from eighteenth that we were always you know, within

1366
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 15: a shot, and everyone knew the weather was going to

1367
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 15: be up and down that day, so it was it

1368
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 15: was always a bit of an unknown, you know, heading

1369
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 15: into the race, and as soon as it started raining,

1370
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 15: that's when everything sort of.

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01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: Turned up a notch.

1372
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 15: But yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately this year we just didn't have

1373
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 15: We didn't have a great Friday. Our car speed just

1374
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 15: wasn't very good. It was, Yeah, it's quite difficult to

1375
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 15: drive at points, so it made it hard to try

1376
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 15: and get everything out of it over one lap, and

1377
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 15: especially when you have so many sets of ties thrown

1378
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 15: at you and with the margins thing so close, you

1379
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 15: can't afford to be slightly behind the eight ball. So yeah,

1380
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 15: unfortunately we just got caught out, which was a bit

1381
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 15: of a bumber. I always liked be in the top

1382
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 15: ten there, Yeah.

1383
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: Exactly, but it worked out well. And then hold on, mate,

1384
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: we'll come back with more in a moment. Matt Pains

1385
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: with us Live Out of Melbourne thirteen past.

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01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: It be News Talks a B sixteen past eight Bethurs Champion.

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: Matt pain is with the Sound of Melbourne this morning.

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01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: You can't at the end, Mat in what state was it?

1391
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: I mean I looked at Brown, for example, driving his

1392
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: car back with his bonnet missing, and I watched Feenie

1393
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: in the fence and a sawcer sticky in about a

1394
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: million pieces? What shape was your current?

1395
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 15: By the end, it was it was actually all right.

1396
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 15: We did had a lot of other cars. Garth had

1397
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 15: a lot of cars as well, but it was actually

1398
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 15: not too bad. You know, a bit of front and

1399
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 15: rear damage. He did run over a damper that came

1400
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 15: out of the Yeah, the DJ car out of the

1401
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 15: out of the elbow, which, yeah, it wasn't great. I

1402
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 15: think it did a bit of damage to the underfloor,

1403
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 15: but relatively unscathed. Unlike my teammates Kar kai.

1404
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 13: He was.

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01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 15: He was a bit of a punching bag for a

1406
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 15: lot of guys out there, I think, so he is

1407
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 15: looking pretty secondhand.

1408
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: You've mentioned Garth Tander his value and his role in

1409
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: your success over the weekend.

1410
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 4: Oh it was.

1411
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: It was incredible.

1412
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 15: You know, he's he's such an iconic character of the sport.

1413
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 15: You know, he's got a he's got a pretty funny personality.

1414
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 15: But I think he's he was really good.

1415
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 17: You know.

1416
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 15: Obviously doing it second time round with him was was

1417
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 15: pretty cool. So there was there was no change from

1418
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 15: last year, and I really did want to, you know,

1419
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 15: improve on last year. It was a bit of a

1420
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 15: shock of for us and I sort of wanted to

1421
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 15: redeem myself a little bit. But you know, in the

1422
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 15: in the heat of the moment and in the weekend,

1423
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 15: you know, you don't really think about that. But yeah,

1424
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 15: he's really good. You know, he's got so much knowledge

1425
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 15: and experience around that place. And we actually didn't really

1426
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 15: end up giving him too many laps in practice because

1427
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 15: we were trying to make our race card betters.

1428
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 8: But he was still he was still good in the race.

1429
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: So, yeah, did your success this season And we've talked

1430
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: about the side of it before. Did your success this

1431
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 2: season lead you mentally arriving at Bethhurst with a belief

1432
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: that you can be a winner? Does that bit help?

1433
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: Oh?

1434
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 15: One. You know, we've had some really good speed this year,

1435
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 15: some really cool wins. But but also I think our

1436
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 15: consistency over the years has been really strong, you know,

1437
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 15: and I sort of we sort of go to each

1438
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 15: track now knowing that you know, we're going to be

1439
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 15: okay when we roll out of the truck. It's just

1440
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 15: about it's just about making it great. But unfortunately we

1441
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 15: we just didn't quite get onto it early enough, you know,

1442
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 15: on the on the Thursday practice we just went that strong.

1443
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 15: But if I actually look back at at Sunday when

1444
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 15: it was dry, I think our race car and the

1445
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 15: dry was still pretty quick as well, so which was

1446
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 15: good news.

1447
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: Do you like the wet?

1448
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.

1449
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 12: I love it.

1450
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 15: I knew it was going to be raining, and I

1451
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 15: knew I knew it was going to be really tough.

1452
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 15: You know, that's probably one of the toughest tracks to

1453
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 15: drive around in the wet, especially when it was really wet,

1454
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 15: and those conditions were pretty pretty hard. But yeah, I

1455
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 15: always love it. We don't really get many opportunities over

1456
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 15: here to race in the wet let alone driving it,

1457
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 15: so it was it was pretty enjoyable.

1458
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: Because I think that's the thing. You can't have it back.

1459
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, the first sixty something laps were they

1460
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: were fine, but it was just another dry day race

1461
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: and not a lot was happening. There were no there

1462
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: were safety cars, and then the rain came and it

1463
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: was all on, I mean, and that's what turned that

1464
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: victory into something special, didn't I mean, that's it had

1465
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: it all?

1466
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, absolutely. The wet weather just creates another sort

1467
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 15: of level playing field. I guess you could say, I

1468
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 15: think there's still is always going to be your set

1469
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 15: up is going to have a big factor, you know

1470
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 15: when especially we all pretty much had dry race setups

1471
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 15: in the cars and then it starts raining, so it's

1472
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 15: not going to handle the best. So you're trying to

1473
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 15: do changes in the pet stop to make it a

1474
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 15: little bit better, and so everyone was doing that. But

1475
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 15: it certainly made it more entertaining for the fans. I

1476
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 15: think they think everyone enjoyed it, and everyone I've spoken

1477
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 15: to has said it's been one of the greatest races

1478
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 15: they've seen for a very long time, you know, probably

1479
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 15: almost on par was Bathurst twenty fourteen, but that's pretty

1480
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 15: hard to top exactly.

1481
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: How do you do you think people see you differently

1482
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: now within the paddock and outside the panic.

1483
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 15: I don't think so, you know, it's it's obviously great

1484
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 15: to get on the resume, and you know, to have

1485
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 15: had that achievement so early on, you know, obviously really

1486
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 15: grateful to you know, the race played out how it

1487
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 15: did because I was thinking when I was in the car,

1488
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 15: it's it. There's so so many decisions throughout those even

1489
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 15: the last thirty laps. There's so many different phases of

1490
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 15: it where it could have so easily gone wrong and

1491
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 15: I could have just been sitting here with a ninth,

1492
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 15: eighth or a fifth, you know, and nothing would have changed.

1493
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 15: But yeah, I don't think anyone would have would see

1494
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 15: me any different now. I'm still still just mad in

1495
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 15: the paddock and I still feel like I'm a pretty

1496
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 15: friendly guy.

1497
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, And so you've got Gold Coast

1498
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: sand down and Adelaide's still to come. And no matter

1499
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: what really happens now that you I mean, this has

1500
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 2: been the season of your life, hasn't.

1501
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 15: It absolutely, you know, like to be able to win

1502
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 15: the JR Trophy first, you know, and now Bathurst. It's

1503
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 15: it's literally been a dream year for us as a team.

1504
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 15: You know, there's a there's a few races there I

1505
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 15: wanted to tick off on my list and luckily we

1506
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 15: have done that basically already, you know, in our third year,

1507
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 15: which is really cool. But like you said, there's there's

1508
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 15: still three more rounds ago and the championship has always

1509
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 15: been the goal.

1510
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: Family super happy.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, they were stoked. Yeah, I've had so many messages

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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 15: from people and in New Zealand and people I haven't

1513
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 15: heard from for a long time. It's it's pretty cool

1514
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 15: to hear all the support and you don't you don't

1515
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 15: really realize how many people watch Bathurst. It's it's it's

1516
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 15: an event that I think captures a lot of a

1517
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 15: wider audience than probably usual races, and it was just

1518
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 15: good that it was obviously that entertaining and I think

1519
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 15: people really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: They did indeed, and we have were catching up with

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Speaker 2: you mate, warmest congratulations again, go well for the rest

1522
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: of the season. But ierviick. Thanks Mike, good onn you mate,

1523
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: Matt Paine out of Melbourne this morning for US eight twenty.

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Speaker 1: Two the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News

1525
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: Talk Zby.

1526
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Speaker 2: Here's a bit of history for you. Back in nineteen

1527
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: forty seven, Defender built something different. Defender built a vehicle.

1528
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't just about luxury, it was about possibility. It

1529
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: was a machine that could go where others stopped. And

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: that basically is the Defender. Seven decades on, it still

1531
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 2: owns the space here in the country. You'll know what

1532
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. You know, the gravel roads and the

1533
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: beaches and a little bit of snow, maybe the weekend

1534
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 2: run to the batch, all that sort of stuff. Most

1535
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: vehicles struggle with that sort of thing, but Defender doesn't.

1536
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: It thrives on it. Remote terrain, harsh conditions, become your playground,

1537
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: tackles the journeys most people wouldn't even try. And today

1538
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: it's smarter than ever as well. Got terrain response that

1539
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 2: adjusts for you, safety tech that keeps you sort at

1540
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: even hybrid efficiency. Yes, you get the capability basically without

1541
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 2: the compromise. But here's the kickert Defender isn't just about

1542
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: the muscle. It's about purpose and all over the world

1543
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: that packs conservation and sport and community stands for something bigger.

1544
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: It's not just a vehicle. It's heritage, it's prestige, it's

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: belonging to something bigger than yourself. That is the defender.

1546
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 2: So visit your local retailer today for your rain drove defender.

1547
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: Asking honestly, what a lovely, humble and mature young man.

1548
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: He'll go a long way. I think that's true, bathurist, Mike.

1549
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: The Melbourne Cup of Motorsport. It's good way of putting it. Mike,

1550
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: thanks for getting matt On. He's a great young man.

1551
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: Thrilled for him. Him and Ryan ryan Wood will have

1552
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: a great future. I think that's true too. Is there

1553
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: any such thing Mike is in inarticulate motor racer? Very

1554
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: good question. You like Riley James as well. That young

1555
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: fellow playing snooker was quite amazing, Mike. Mike Williams maybe,

1556
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: but he's no Eddie Charlton, mature sounding young man. Amazing

1557
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: what being committed to something does for a young person.

1558
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: New Zealand needs more of it, and so it goes.

1559
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: Starmer Is along with the rest of them. In charmel

1560
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: shape in Egypt and so Britain's Roland is what is it?

1561
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: And that another UK matters for us. Right after the

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: news here on the Mike Hosking Breakfast, you just talk ZEDB.

1563
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 4: Opinion, edit, informed, und apologetic.

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: The My Hosking Breakfast with the Defender embraced the impossible

1565
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: news talks EDB in.

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01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: Our discussion earlier on reference once again all the people

1567
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 2: leaving New Zealand. Of course in one of the attractions

1568
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: in Australia is your twelve percent and your superannuation and

1569
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. But as always by we

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01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: we're just yesterday, Charm Jim Charms. The Treasurer six changes

1571
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: to the superannuation legislation going to be dropping the taxing

1572
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: of unrealized gains, bringing in indexing for balances over three

1573
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: million dollars going to be a forty percent tax rate

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: on balances over ten million dollars. Earnings on balances above

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01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 2: three million dollars going to be taxed at thirty percent. So,

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: in other words, it's the classic thing you think it's

1577
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: set to go until it isn't. And they're going to

1578
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: extend the little five hundred dollars gift to eight hundred

1579
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: and ten dollars for the under thirty seven thousand people

1580
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: and are a little bit different for the people over

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: forty five. So in other words, it's a classic labor policy.

1582
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that for all of the bright

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: times and good rules and fun things you can do

1584
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: in Australia, even they in a superannuation scheme that you

1585
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: would have think or thought was sorted, they're still mucking

1586
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: around with it. And the people who do the mucking

1587
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: are always the government. Twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 14: Nine international correspondence with Insit Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 14: for New Zealand business in the.

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Speaker 15: UK rod little, good morning to you, good molling to you.

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Speaker 2: Mate, mister Starmer is of course in Egypt along with

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01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: all the rest of them. What are you guys going

1593
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: to be doing with us? I mean, are your boots

1594
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: on the ground? Are you giving money to Gazi handing

1595
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: them bricks? What happens?

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01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 6: I think we are of similar importance in the Peace

1597
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 6: Steel unveiled in by Donald Trump today and signed in Egypt.

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01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 6: We're in a similar position too. I think Kiribati and

1599
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 6: Guinea Bissau in terms of our influence and input towards

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01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 6: peace in the region. We've pledged twenty million quid, which

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 6: will just about buy you a tower block for a

1602
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 6: few Palestinians. We've been excluded from all of the peace talks.

1603
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 6: All we've done is applaud from.

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: The sidelines, exactly, and that would be have something to do.

1605
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: I suspect in Trump's mind anyway, that when you recognize Palestine,

1606
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: you'd be on the wrong side of us.

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 6: I think that's exactly it. I think recognizing Palestine was

1608
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 6: a decision which was made purely for domestic reasons, purely

1609
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,520
Speaker 6: for secure Stalma's own domestic purposes, to keep his backbenches

1610
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 6: at bay, and actually meditated against their being a piece

1611
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 6: in the middle of East. It was a counterproductive act.

1612
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 6: And I think Starmer probably knows that if we're honest,

1613
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 6: so we have played no role whatsoever in this, can

1614
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 6: take no credit from it, will not have boots on

1615
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 6: the ground, will not be will probably bug the Palestine

1616
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 6: into a bit more than twenty million quid. I mean

1617
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 6: twenty million quid is roughly what we'd already ear marked

1618
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 6: to give to them in order videause, of course, Palestine

1619
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 6: gets enormous amounts of money from guilty looking Western countries

1620
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 6: every year and that's what we were going to give

1621
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 6: this year. I don't think o're involved with He's going

1622
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 6: to be much more than that.

1623
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: To be honest, Mike, No, Tommy Robinson in court. Is

1624
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: Elon Musk playing his bills? I mean, is that, drue?

1625
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 7: Do we know?

1626
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 6: Don't know for certain, However, Tommy Robinson idol of the

1627
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 6: British right or the far right, and I think we

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01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 6: can say that in fairness. On Tommy Robinson arrested as

1629
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 6: he tried to get onto Channel Tunnel train in a

1630
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 6: very very expensive Bentley car and with fifteen thousand quid

1631
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 6: in the glove box which he was apparently taken to

1632
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 6: a mate in Bennydorm. He's been charged under the terrorism

1633
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 6: offenses questionably, you might add, but because he refused to

1634
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 6: give his pin number to the police. He says it

1635
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 6: this is a case of persecution. But he hasn't asked

1636
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 6: for money from his followers. He says that the bills

1637
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 6: will be paid by Evon Musk. I don't have any

1638
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 6: confirmation from for that, but it wouldn't surprise me husually

1639
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 6: there has been contact between them in the past.

1640
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: Now when we said on the program. I referenced briefly

1641
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: as business of the Chinese case. British guys, a couple

1642
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: of young British guys who are alleged to have been

1643
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: spying for China, and suddenly the case collapses. And I

1644
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 2: know that bed Knock since we last took bed Knock's

1645
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: written to the Prime Minister and said, I've got a

1646
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: few questions for you. Has she got some Is she

1647
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: going to get some traction out of us?

1648
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 6: I think she will get traction out of this. I

1649
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 6: think it is a problem for the government. No matter

1650
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 6: what the Security Minister Dan Jarvis says, there is a

1651
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 6: real problem for the government here that the case collapsed

1652
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 6: when there was ample evidence from m I five and

1653
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 6: from the security services generally that China is, indeed, were

1654
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 6: any evidence needed a threat to the UK. You know,

1655
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 6: the the boss of NI five has pointed out that

1656
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 6: there are two thousand outstanding investigations into Chinese spying against

1657
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 6: Britain and the ten thousand British firms were at risk

1658
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 6: from losing valuable data to the Chinese. So it simply

1659
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 6: doesn't stack up that China wasn't a threat. The question

1660
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 6: which remains and This will come when the various government officials,

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 6: including Jonathan Powell, are interviewed as to whether they were

1662
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 6: directed to say that China wasn't a threat by the government,

1663
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 6: or came to that conclusion themselves without telling the government,

1664
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 6: which seems a bit far fetched to me, or what

1665
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 6: exactly transpired between them and the Crown Prosecution Service. Either way,

1666
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 6: the Speaker of the House, Lindsay Hoyle, is enraged because

1667
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,839
Speaker 6: he thinks it brings the safety of House of Commons

1668
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 6: members into doubt because one of the spies worked for

1669
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 6: a House of Commons MP, and this won't go away,

1670
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 6: even though it's possibly too complex and our cane to

1671
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 6: grab kind of mass cultural attention.

1672
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 2: Interesting. Well, we're not into mess cultural attention. We're just

1673
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: into interesting stuff, which is why we've got you. It's

1674
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: just a couple of quickies if you wouldn't mind the

1675
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: SMP and the conferences. I mean this fascination with the

1676
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 2: second vote. Starmer's got to tick off a second vote.

1677
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: Does that put him in a corner or would you

1678
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: just tell them that?

1679
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 6: Nef Off, I think the people who are in the

1680
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 6: corner of the SNP, I think they are on the run.

1681
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 6: Partly because the maladministered Scotland for the best part of

1682
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 6: a quarter of a century, partly because the last administration

1683
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 6: was seen to be corrupt, and partly because they only

1684
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 6: really have one policy now, which is independence, and independence

1685
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 6: isn't terribly popular at the moment. So I think it

1686
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 6: wouldn't surprise me if, if desperate are in the polls

1687
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 6: of the moment, if they possibly took SNP seats in

1688
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 6: a fuse coming election, the SNP are on their uppers,

1689
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 6: do you know.

1690
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing that I completely forgotten this

1691
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: because I assume when he left leadership he left the Parliament,

1692
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: but he didn't. But this is Rushiek who's still an MP.

1693
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: How is it as an MP you get to take

1694
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 2: a pay gig with Microsoft and not have a monumental

1695
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: conflict of interest.

1696
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 6: No, I think there will be a conflict of interest

1697
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 6: somewhere down the line. I think that people will dig

1698
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 6: this up at the moment he's got away with it,

1699
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 6: because because this is what former former prime ministers have done.

1700
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 6: Every former prime minister, with the noble exception of Gordon Brown,

1701
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 6: have taken humongous fee paying jobs with multinational companies, the

1702
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 6: difference being that in most cases they weren't still serving MPs.

1703
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 6: I think this will come back to bite Rishie Sonapes

1704
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 6: when as.

1705
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: Weirdest rule in the world. Rod always a pleasure. We'll

1706
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: see you see you next week. Rod Little out of Britain.

1707
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 2: Yssumed he had gone, but he's the MP for Richmond.

1708
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 2: And so just think about the MP four. You know,

1709
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: pick an electorates in New Zealand, your local MP from

1710
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: your electorate and they announced that not only are they

1711
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 2: an MP, that they've now got a job with Microsoft

1712
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: that they're being paid for. I mean, how would that

1713
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: sit here? I think the answers on your behalf not

1714
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,440
Speaker 2: very well. Six eight, let's make it eight forty.

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Speaker 1: Five The Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: At B nice reminder of the email morning, Michael, love

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01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: the show. Your enthusiasm with motorsport. Not sure if you

1719
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: caught up with Earl winning. Your boys supported him, particularly

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01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: in the early days, Jack Aiken, Earl Bamba, Frederick Vesty

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Speaker 2: Cadillac second success of particularly Mom victory now I completely

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Speaker 2: forgotten about. That's a very good point. I appreciate it, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I was in Auckland over the weekend. When are you

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Speaker 2: going to give up on that overpriced rat race and

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Speaker 2: move down here to christ you to get twice as

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Speaker 2: much of your money in less traffic. Ben very good question.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at one roof yesterday, three very nice

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Speaker 2: houses listed in christ Church just yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Question.

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Speaker 2: We had a conversation would you live in a high

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Speaker 2: rise in christ Church? Given the scenario, would you go

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01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: if you could buy anywhere in christ Church? Would you

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Speaker 2: live in a high rise off the ground given the circumstances,

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01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: and the answer you go, oh yeah, no construction, blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. But would you still do it? Because a

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Speaker 2: couple of beautiful apartment buildings in christ Church these days,

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Speaker 2: and obviously christ Church, with its topography, you just get

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 2: spectacular views. And I lived in a pre quake. I

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Speaker 2: lived in an apartment in christ Church, briefly in the

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01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: air until one on the ground became available. And the

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Speaker 2: one on the ground I like better than the one

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Speaker 2: in the air. So I went on the ground, not

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Speaker 2: because of anything to do with earthquakes, because it was many,

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Speaker 2: many years ago. But the ground had a bit of

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Speaker 2: outdoor space, and I thought, oh yeah, that's not bad.

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01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: But the views up in the air in christ Church.

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01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: But would you live happily in christ Church? How many

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Speaker 2: eggs do you eat a year? That's the other thing

1749
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: that caught my attention yesterday. I don't eat eggs. I

1750
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 2: don't like eggs. I don't like anything to do with eggs.

1751
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 2: And I put that down to well, it's not my

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01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 2: mother's fault. But as a little child, at two three

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01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: four years old, I used to eat a boiled egg

1754
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: every day, literally, and Mum made the mistake of saying

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Speaker 2: things like what do you want for lunch? Instead of

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Speaker 2: just giving me food like a proper parent, She go

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01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: what do you want for lunch? And I'd always say

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: boiled eggs? So I ate so many boiled eggs. I'm

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Speaker 2: convinced that's the reason I hate them. Now, did you

1760
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: go hard boiled soft boiled soldiers in Glean? I was four.

1761
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what I did, but anyway, we did

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Speaker 2: it every day. Anyway, I hate them down, I don't

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Speaker 2: eat them, and in fact, I don't think i'd eat

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Speaker 2: any eggs at all this in a year. Anyway, I

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01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: don't eat Keisha don't need it. I've gone through this.

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01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't need onmelet don't eat keichhe don't eat it.

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01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: For Tata, don't eat any of that. I mean, I

1768
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 2: don't eat baking. If you put a bit of egg

1769
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: and baking, don't eat baking either. So I'd probably literally

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: eat no eggs all year, which, given we eat on

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01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: average two hundred and twenty nine, it's a lot of

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01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 2: eggs in a two hundred and twenty nine a year,

1773
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: and it's up from two sixteen, so we're eating more

1774
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: and more eggs. That cafe thing, does everyone who goes

1775
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 2: to a cafe? I don't go to cafes either very often.

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01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: But when I go to cafes, does everyone egg ordered

1777
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: the eggs?

1778
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 15: Benny?

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01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 2: That just is that just a go to New Zealand?

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01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 8: Does there any matter what you order, you get an

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01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 8: egg on it?

1782
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: You get an egg? Well that's smash comes to an egg. Yeah,

1783
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: that's true. So that's where your two twenty one comes from, basically,

1784
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: doesn't it? So I mean someone's eating my it's nine

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Speaker 2: away from nine The Mike.

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Speaker 2: co dot z asking. Sam just walked and said, when

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Speaker 2: I was on my German bulking diet, it's a sort

1812
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Speaker 2: of random crap that you eat gem and bulking, Jim,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was German. I thought it was German,

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Speaker 2: but gym and bulking, so so even more weird when

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Speaker 2: I was on my gym and bulking diet and he

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Speaker 2: was doing this in Fukatani. A lot of strange stuff

1817
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Speaker 2: goes on in Katani, a lot of germ and bulking. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I was eating forty three eggs a week, raw raw eggs,

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from.

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Speaker 2: So in Texas, we've got the eighteenth Congressional district, we've

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Speaker 2: got Valentina go meet and she's she's looking for attention.

1824
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Speaker 2: She's put out a video shooting a dummy in the head,

1825
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Speaker 2: pretending it was an illegal migrant. She burned a copy

1826
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Speaker 2: of the Koran that got a band on most of

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Speaker 2: the socials barrecks, and now she's put this out.

1828
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Speaker 18: I am America first, not benefiting my purse. I never

1829
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Speaker 18: sell out the people to raise my network. The Second

1830
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Speaker 18: Amendment is there to always protect my first a better

1831
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Speaker 18: rapper than Loupe, and.

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Speaker 13: I don't even have to curse.

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Speaker 18: Let's keep the American gream alive and put an end

1834
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Speaker 18: to all lives. BLM raised billions, and what did they

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Speaker 18: do for black lives? Politicians promise you the whole world,

1836
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Speaker 18: then they backslide.

1837
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Speaker 11: What happens Hunter's laptop?

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Speaker 18: You know I'm always strapped up.

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Speaker 3: Gun rights?

1840
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Speaker 18: Are women's rights?

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Speaker 1: Feminists beIN Solo Live.

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Speaker 18: You can miss around and find out these stupid games.

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Speaker 10: Win a super price.

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Speaker 18: God bless the whole USA, even the ones who hate me.

1845
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Speaker 18: I'm still fighting for you today and not super pact paid.

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Speaker 4: America First, America First.

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Speaker 7: The people are hurt the treatment and know what it worked?

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong to say that if more candidates in

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Speaker 2: the local body election had done that sort of stuff, Absolutely,

1850
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 2: you turn out at twenty one percent or twenty eight

1851
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: percent or whatever pathetic number it was in your particular

1852
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: part of the country would have been completely different. And

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01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 2: what the Prime Minister said on this program was one

1854
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: hundred percent correct. What we need are vibrant, interesting people,

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Speaker 2: people with purpose, people with ideas people want to improve

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01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: the country and people who put out call videos.

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Speaker 7: My party, but not a party like it's my party.

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01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Sew Zealand first two. That's one party that's been really

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01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 2: listantly improving in our polls the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Who's right, New Zealand, give me my party, build it back.

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Speaker 2: We want a candidate's like some more videos as simple

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Speaker 2: as that. I've cracked it just at the end of

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Speaker 2: the show. Took me all day, but I finally cracked

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Speaker 2: it back tomorrow morning. From six Happy.

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