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Speaker 1: Integrity Sports and Recreation Commission launches today. This is a

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Speaker 1: new Crown entity. It will take responsibility for safeguarding sport

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Speaker 1: and recreation in this country. The chief Executive is Rebecca

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Speaker 1: Roles who is with us. Rebecca, good morning, Marian and Mike.

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Speaker 1: You take over from who do you simply replace drug Free?

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Speaker 2: So drug Free becomes part of the Commission, which will

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Speaker 2: be a bigger organization than Drug Free Sports Zealand was.

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Speaker 2: So their staff twenty four people will come over and

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Speaker 2: then the Commission will build on that to discharge its

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Speaker 2: obligations around other functions.

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Speaker 1: Will you be doing things that nobody else has been

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Speaker 1: doing before?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely extent. I mean anti doping has been going

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Speaker 2: really well obviously for many years now, so that will continue.

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Speaker 2: But the Commission brings together services around complaints mediation, looks

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Speaker 2: at safeguarding and competition manipulation, on match fixing, so a

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Speaker 2: lot of the things that have been potentially reactive or

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Speaker 2: not dealt with at all. The legislation provides the mechanisms

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Speaker 2: for the Commission to actually start investigating and doing something

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Speaker 2: about those things.

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Speaker 1: And are you forced on sport so or does sports

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Speaker 1: have to sign up to you?

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Speaker 2: No? There is a code for integrity which will be

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Speaker 2: released later in the year, and that's a voluntary code,

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Speaker 2: so it is support and recreation organizations to make that decision.

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Speaker 2: But so far, the intent, the opinions we've heard is

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Speaker 2: that everyone's very, very supportive. So it'll be a process

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Speaker 2: of a year or two while people sort of work

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Speaker 2: through what that means. But yeah, I think you know,

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Speaker 2: after a couple of years it will start to settle

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Speaker 2: down and be able to be up and running properly.

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Speaker 1: And how much of that actual code is out there

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Speaker 1: and people know of it and have time to soak

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Speaker 1: it up and react to it.

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Speaker 2: Look, there'll be plenty of time. We've done some initial

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Speaker 2: sort of testing with specific support and recreation organizations, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll release an exposure draft, probably within the next

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Speaker 2: couple of months, so that people will have time with it,

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Speaker 2: and that'll be open for six weeks initially, and if

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Speaker 2: we need longer, we'll we'll keep it open longer and

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Speaker 2: we'll start processing the feedback. But ideally they'll put us

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Speaker 2: in a good position to release by the end of

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 1: How much subtlety, isn't it? In other words, max fixing,

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Speaker 1: We're all against probably I'm assuming at the other end

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Speaker 1: of the spectrum, how nuance does it get and how

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Speaker 1: nuanced do you have to be to bring sports on boards,

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Speaker 1: you know, instead of them saying, i'll tell you what's

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Speaker 1: a bit it's a bit too much for us. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a really good question, and that's kind of

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Speaker 2: fed in quite a lot into the code and it's drafting.

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Speaker 2: Is making something that people can see themselves in and

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Speaker 2: organizations can actually realistically implement, but also as a massive

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Speaker 2: awareness raising and education piece as well. In competition manipulation

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Speaker 2: is a really good idea, a really good example of

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Speaker 2: that because other than a criminal act in that respect,

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Speaker 2: there's not much legislation or none until today that actually

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Speaker 2: makes it against the rules. So some some of the

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Speaker 2: lower level stuff like passing inside of information and that

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. So a lot of nuance, a lot

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Speaker 2: of education. He's the reason why we need to take

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Speaker 2: sport and recreation organizations along with us.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Rebecca go well with the job. Appreciated very much.

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Speaker 1: Rebecca Roles, chief executive of this New Integrity Sports and

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