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Speaker 1: First though, we had two brand new sub unmanned submarines

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Speaker 1: launched in Devenport today. The new ships are named Tahi

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Speaker 1: and Rua, and they're going to be used to intercept

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Speaker 1: Class A drugs before the drugs get into the country. Now,

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Speaker 1: Casey Cascalo is the customs minister. Hey Casey, hi, he

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Speaker 1: how are you very well? Thank you? So these subs

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Speaker 1: are they just surveillance subs, are they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So they're uncrewed vessels, so they have solar powered,

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Speaker 2: they're wind powered. Say, I think the maximum they've been

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Speaker 2: out to sea without any staff at one hundred days,

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Speaker 2: So there can do long distances for long periods of

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Speaker 2: time doing surveillance. So they're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And then what happens? What if they see something dodgy

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Speaker 1: going on out there? What do we do?

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Speaker 2: So they're all linked up through cameras and data so

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Speaker 2: they're always monitored. They're effectively at crew back at their

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Speaker 2: control command post, which monitor all their activity and send

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Speaker 2: information back real time. So yeah, we're really really excited

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Speaker 2: because they can reach a lot further and a lot

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Speaker 2: less risk to people and a lot cheaper to run.

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Speaker 2: So they're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And so what happens is let's say they see somebody

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Speaker 1: dumping gigantic bag of pea in the ocean to be

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Speaker 1: picked up photos come back. Do we then send out

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Speaker 1: a boat to go pick it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a part of a response. It's about

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Speaker 2: intel networks, it's about monitoring the oceans, about early warning

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Speaker 2: of vessels that maybe haven't reported in a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of monitoring and data intelligence that they gather as well

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Speaker 2: around activity. And you know, we have the eleventh largest

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Speaker 2: maritime border in the world, so you know we need

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Speaker 2: to do a lot smarter and a lot better about

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Speaker 2: how we cover those distances.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's going to ask you, I mean, if we've

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Speaker 1: got we've got this massive area that we've got a

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Speaker 1: patrols two, enough do we need.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is this has been part of a trial.

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Speaker 2: So seven months ago we were trialing this to see

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Speaker 2: what we could do. And now we've got these first

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Speaker 2: tours of MoU between Defense and Customs and it's just

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Speaker 2: one of another tool and toolbox kind of thing. So

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Speaker 2: it will be allowing us to stretch out towards so

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Speaker 2: if they can do a lot more support and yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's just you know, we're building up capability, and

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Speaker 2: this is part of the Defense capability plan that Minister

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Speaker 2: Collins has put out. We'll just keep growing out our

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Speaker 2: capacity and working with customs and defense. This is a

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Speaker 2: big part of what we've been talking about as our

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Speaker 2: agency working cooperatively.

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Speaker 1: Casey, listen on this business of ordering the Health New

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Speaker 1: Zealand guys to start saying pregnant women instead of pregnant people.

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Speaker 1: How's that gone down with them?

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Speaker 2: Well, this is where it's sort of trading me by surprise.

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Speaker 2: That was such a novel response because I mean, actually

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Speaker 2: there's been no pushback. It's just about the fact that

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Speaker 2: we have a woman's health strategy. I'm the Minister in

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Speaker 2: charge of women's health, so to suggest that we're just

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Speaker 2: talking about women when we're dealing with women's specific issues

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Speaker 2: seemed logical and practical option to do. So, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure why there's this adverse reaction.

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Speaker 1: Was I mean, because I'm just trying to get a

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Speaker 1: handle on exactly what was going on in Health Easyland.

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Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it was it was a hard

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Speaker 1: and fast post there to use phrases like pregnant people

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Speaker 1: or people with the cervix, right, It felt like they

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Speaker 1: were kind of using it interchangeably with pregnant women, Is

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Speaker 1: that right?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this was the part you know that really

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Speaker 2: it just came down to, well, when we're talking about

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Speaker 2: specific issues, you know, cervix, you know, cervical cancers, things

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Speaker 2: like this, we need to be recognizing that these are

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Speaker 2: very significant women's health issues and if there's anything we

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Speaker 2: can do to better connect with women, and we know

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Speaker 2: statistically with Martyr pacifica other ethnic communities, we are seeing

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Speaker 2: them connecting with health services. Later in pregnancies, we're not

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Speaker 2: seeing them connect with you know, those regular checks and

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Speaker 2: things that we need to do that are very specific

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Speaker 2: women's health issues. So we need to be clear about

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Speaker 2: we are targeting women and we want women to reach

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Speaker 2: out and connect as much as possible with health services.

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Speaker 2: And if there's other demographics that we need to connect

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Speaker 2: with better, then let's let's work out specific programs and things.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we have a woman's health strategy and

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Speaker 2: they're the targeting women and that's what I want to

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Speaker 2: focus on.

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Speaker 1: Casey, thanks very much for you time. Appreciate It's Casey Costello,

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