1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US High Barry. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Halo Heller thoughts on that, well, you know, not only 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: with Todd McLay, he's having it with Chris Luxon publicly. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Chris Luckson said that Winston was wrong. Under the Coalition agreement, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: they do have a beg to differ arrangement where New 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: zealanfest doesn't have to vote for the legislation to bring 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: in this FTA. But you know, FTA covers what the 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: most populous nation on Earth now and you know the 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: fact that Winston also opposed the Free Trade Agreement with China. Now, 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: I was up in Beijing when that was signed by 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: Phil Golf and Helen Clark, and he was opposed to 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 2: it because he said that essentially China investment will now 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: flood New Zealand. He said there was not enough in 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: it for New Zealand. The lead in time was to long. 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: New Zealand's exports to China from two thousand and eight 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: to twenty four grew from two point five to eight 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: billion to twenty point eight five billion in that time. 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: So I think we've done pretty well out of the 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: China Free Trade Agreement. You know, when you look at 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: the one with India. Now, I've talked to Tom McClay 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: this afternoon about it and said, you know, does he 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: have some concerns and raised them with Todd McClay about immigration, 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: the number of Indians who will be able to flood 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: into the country, and Tod mclair went through it point 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: by point. He said, no, it's not going to happen. 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: This is pure politicking. Now, Todd McClay and Winston Peter's 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: get on very well. Winston used to employ Tod mcclay's 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: father in his offers, so they are pretty good mates. 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: And I said, why don't you sit down with Winston 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: and start explaining. 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Because it's not about the true visitors about But here's 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: a thing. 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: If the National Party is not telling the truth, well 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: this is. 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: And that is exactly what I was going to come to. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: So Autre Young has written a piece for The Herald 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: this afternoon saying this is a reasonable problem, like this 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: is trouble brewing because the comments go and I'm going 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: to quote it, these comments go a lot further than 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: just to disagreement over a point of view. They suggest 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: New Zealand First's coalition partners are being deceitful. He is 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: accusing them of actually trying to hide things from the public, 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: which does Audrey's right does go a step up. 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: So indeed it does. Well, you know, it's politicking and the. 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: Man petician to let him do this, aren't they? 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh well why not? I mean, you know they're talking 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: to Labor at the moment because they want to pass 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: this legislation. They want to have it before the House 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: for the next couple of months, and they want it 50 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: passed before the year ends, before the election essentially, and 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: if they don't get the agreement out of New Zealand first, 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: then they will need another party, and that other party 53 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: to be Labor. I see that they've put a few 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: restrictions on although they haven't announced what they are before 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: they give support. But I would imagine those restrictions won't 56 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: prevent Labor from going down the track of supporting the 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: National Party on this one, just as National supported Labor 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: on the free trade agreement with China. You reckon homelessness 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: is going to become an election issue? Well, yes, I do, 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: because you know, Labor bangs on about homelessness all the time, 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: and I think it will be an election issue, particularly 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: those people sleeping in the streets and here in Auckland 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: was the issue that was raised in Parliament today. The 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Labor suggested that the tofts and Auckland's Remuweer and New 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Lynn and Epsom will end up hosting their beautifully hosting 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: the homeless on their beautifully manicured burms and their pavements 67 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: when they get moved on from the central city. The 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: party's Apputy leader, Carmel Ceppoloni was taking the Minister for Auckland, 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: Simeon Brown, to task for the nine hundred and forty 70 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: city dwellers who bear down on the streets in this 71 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: city every night. Brown though, was not having a bar 72 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: of it here. 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Where does he expect them to go when he kicks 74 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: them out of the CBD? 75 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: What I stated the opposition is we are very focused 76 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: on making sure our Auckland Central Business District is safe, 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: it is welcoming to people who work there, who live there, 78 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: and who visit there, because we know how important it 79 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: is to our economy, to jobs and opportunities in New Zealand, 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: and we're focused on doing what's needed to fix the 81 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: basics and build the future. 82 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is that you know something has to 83 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: be done about the homeless in Auckland. I mean, you know, 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: we walk down the street every day and you see 85 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: somebody in a street door, or you see the remnants 86 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: of sleeping overnight in the city. So you know, I 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: think the city has to be cleaned up, just like 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: every city in the Country's. 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: Louise upstill excite about the surfing of. 90 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: The surfing event. 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Well you should be, You'll be except what you'll. 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: Be excited being a surfer here? What does it mean? 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: A left point break that's the corect way right, so 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: you break left rather than right. 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: It breaks in a certain way. 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I see, so it would count you out. 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: You've only had the right break waves. 98 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: No, no, no beach breaks, so they break in all directions. 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: And what you will testify to is I just go 100 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: in whatever direction. There's no actual surfing that happens. 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: Louise us and she could only contain herself that we've 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: secured such a prestigious surfing event. 103 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 4: Mister speaker, we've had a wave of positive feedback. Surfing 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: New Zealand CEO Ben Kenning said, this is huge for 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: New Zealand and we can't wait to host these best 106 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: surfers in the world. It's going to be pretty spectacular. 107 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: Mustter speaker. This announcement is already showing very positive signs 108 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: and means we're building a reputation internationally as a world 109 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: class destination for sports culture and entertainment. 110 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: I hope Little Raglan can cope with it all. 111 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, they will be absolutely fizzing for it. 112 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: She's bogan a lou Upstein is a Boguin. 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 1: She's into surfing in Lincoln Park. 114 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, in that case, not into Lincoln Parks. 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for that, Barry, barryso Ober, Senior political correspondent. 116 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 117 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: news Talks. 118 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 119 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.