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Speaker 2: eDV All, You're welcome to the Ethic Fury. Issues include

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Speaker 2: the cancelation of flights, the possibility of more fuel storage,

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Speaker 2: and the chances of schooling at home. Also the Fish

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Speaker 2: back Down, Jenny Smith will sing us a song. Joe

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Speaker 2: mckenn and Rod Liddle open us up to the world

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Speaker 2: as well postcarsday morning, here we go six minutes past

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Speaker 2: I'm shall we say seven minutes past? Let's say that

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Speaker 2: seven minutes past six. Now, the problem with people like

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Speaker 2: Paul Conway. You know Paul Conway. He's the chief economist

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Speaker 2: at the Reserve Bank. Problem with people like him is

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Speaker 2: they know some stuff and they sound good in a speech,

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Speaker 2: but their record exposes them badly. So he gives this

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Speaker 2: speech yesterday to the National Financial Advisor's Conference. He talks

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Speaker 2: about how expensive this country is, and he talked about

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Speaker 2: our lack of productivity. Now, if the speech have been

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Speaker 2: a school project, he probably would have got a good mark.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't argue with a lot of what he said,

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Speaker 2: we aren't very efficient, Things like construction cost more here

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Speaker 2: than anywhere in the OECD. We were once okay ish

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Speaker 2: at productivity, we aren't any more or in our real

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Speaker 2: ability to buy stuff. As going backwards, he noted, before

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, our purchasing power was growing faster than the

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Speaker 2: OECDS on average. Now ask yourself a question, what happened

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty In post twenty twenty, Well, that's right,

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Speaker 2: that's COVID. So COVID was no one's fault, well possibly

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Speaker 2: the Chinese. But the response was the key. And in

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Speaker 2: that response, as is well documented, we blew it, blew

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Speaker 2: at sky high and ended up with inflation north of

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Speaker 2: seven percent, some of which was overseen by mister Conway

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Speaker 2: and mister raw at the Reserve Bank. Inflation, argues Paul,

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Speaker 2: is critical. Given the cash rate helps anchor prices, does it?

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Speaker 2: He cites the prices that make us the most expensive

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Speaker 2: place in the world, rates, power, insurance. Did the cash

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Speaker 2: rate do anything for those?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Other prices he cited, like butter and lamb also expensive,

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Speaker 2: are expensive for obvious and well documented reasons, and ironically

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Speaker 2: expensive for good reasons for New Zealand Inc. Part of

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Speaker 2: the issue, of course, is market sizes why Walmart's successful.

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Speaker 2: It has a population base of over three hundred million.

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Speaker 2: We don't. Supply of goods always cheaper per unit when

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Speaker 2: you buy them by the million. We don't. The productivity question,

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Speaker 2: of course, has been bounced around for years, never really solved.

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Speaker 2: I mean many people don't even agree what productivity is.

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Speaker 2: Is it a robot replacing a human? Is it building

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Speaker 2: a road faster? Is it inventing a thing that changes

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Speaker 2: the world. Part of the reason the Reserve Bank Blue

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Speaker 2: COVID so badly is they write speeches like Conways. They

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Speaker 2: live in Wellington and small rooms, theorizing the moment you

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Speaker 2: give them a bit of real world. Look at what

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Speaker 2: they do with it.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds, things moving warwise.

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Speaker 2: We got to run the fifteen point plan publicly anyway.

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Speaker 2: They don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Our first and last word has been the same from

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Speaker 1: day one, and it will stay that way. Someone like

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Speaker 1: us will never come to terms with someone like you,

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Speaker 1: not now.

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Speaker 3: Not ever.

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Speaker 2: That's only half the story, of course, So more shortly meantime,

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Speaker 2: Antonio of the United Nations has decided he looks completely pointless,

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Speaker 2: of course, so he's appointed an envoy.

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Speaker 4: Visit has gone too far.

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Speaker 5: It's time to stop climbing the escalation leather and start

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Speaker 2: And also in the states of the whole shutdown, airport,

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Speaker 2: missiles going nowhere. The Speaker's got no doubt as to

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Speaker 6: I don't even think they would agree to vote on

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Speaker 6: a bill. They would simply restark our a munitions. We've

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Speaker 6: used some of those, as you know, in Operation Epic Fury,

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Speaker 6: and we've got to do that.

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Speaker 2: It's a necessity. Interesting vote yesterday, I'll give you a

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Speaker 2: result on in Flora didn't go well for the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Then in Britain, which is also busy busy bening crypto

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Speaker 7: We already have a strong toolkit to detect, disrupt and.

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Speaker 9: But as threats evolved, so too mass our protections busy.

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Speaker 2: Appointing Sarah as the first female Archrebiship.

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Speaker 10: Will you affirm your loyalty to this inheritance of faith

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Speaker 2: She said, yes, I'm assuming did she and busy confirming

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Speaker 2: Matt Britain is the new boss of the BBC.

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Speaker 3: He's a fan of doctor who. We know that he's

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Speaker 3: a former Olympic rower. If any job requires stamina, it

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Speaker 10: But most importantly he worked at Google for as a

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Speaker 2: So finally we've got some tips for your lunch today.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty six Shopper's Guide to Piste sides in

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Speaker 2: news the World of ninety one, the inflation Australia, Andrew

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Speaker 2: but more in a moment. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Evy, you want to start with the good news on

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Speaker 2: the war. A bunch of vessels got through the straight overnight.

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Speaker 2: Iran's now charging countries a fee, and if you pay

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Speaker 2: the fee, you can go through. Iran's rejected, as you know,

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Speaker 2: the peace plan. What they're saying publicly, I'll come to

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Speaker 2: this later. What they're saying publicly and what they're doing

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Speaker 2: privately are two completely different things. Of course, they've got

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Speaker 2: across all fronts, and payment of reparations. Of course, as

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Speaker 2: part of that plan, we don't know what the Americans want,

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Speaker 2: but you can probably guess oil's down, So there's some hope.

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Speaker 2: and partner's Andrew Kella her good morning, Yeah, very good morning.

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Speaker 2: Make this employment confidence thing. I mean, it's like all

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Speaker 3: The main driver to what was their modest lift and

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Speaker 3: the end that's was moving in the right direction, albeit slowly.

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Speaker 3: But let's look at the positive stuff and that forty

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Speaker 2: Right, inflation better but I mean still high, but better

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Speaker 3: What we really care about here, though, Mike, is that

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Speaker 3: this prompted a big drop in wholesale interstrates in Australia

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Speaker 3: which is great, but it's still quite volatile.

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Speaker 2: I know it's fifty to fifty on cash right move

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Speaker 2: real quick KMD. So we talked yesterday about rip curl

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Speaker 3: Could be not good news. They went into a trading

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Speaker 3: halt yesterday delayed the release of the results the day before.

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Speaker 3: As you said, they turned down a proposal to demos

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Speaker 3: rip CURL. They need to raise capital. It looks like

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Speaker 3: an emergency capital raising. This is not good news. Challenging

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Speaker 3: So the so Mike's are looking quite good. You know,

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Speaker 2: Shocking down court for Better and Google. They've been found liable.

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Speaker 2: Sam morning to you.

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Speaker 14: How are you well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? You're happy?

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Speaker 11: No, not in the slightest.

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Speaker 15: What it was.

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Speaker 2: You think they're trying to snooky you. Is this one

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Speaker 14: The opening line of the legislation says that it's to

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Speaker 2: Right, So when you will go to select committees still

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Speaker 14: No, it's definitely not over. And I think that's a

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Speaker 2: As passionate as people like you are, and we've had

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Speaker 14: Well, what I want everybody to start thinking about is

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Speaker 14: We don't sell it for a fortune. We sell our

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Sam, go well with it. Never the

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Speaker 2: excellent question, Graham. And in your question, of course, there

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Speaker 2: Nineteen to two the Mike.

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Speaker 2: in Florida District Seat eighty seven, Palm Beach County. Who

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Speaker 2: would one of the residents of that particular part of

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Speaker 2: the world be That's right, Donald Anyway, Emily won Emily Gregory.

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Speaker 2: Who's she, Well, she's a Democrat, so she's going to

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Speaker 2: beat John Maples. Who's John. He's the Republican. Did Trump

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Speaker 2: back John? Yes he did. Did they flip the seat, Yes,

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Speaker 2: they did so. Since Trump has been president, Republicans have

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Speaker 2: lost control of twenty nine seats in state legislatures around

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Speaker 2: the country to the Democrats. So they're starting to sweat.

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Speaker 2: Trump is an eleven plus district or marril Argo is

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Speaker 2: an eleven plus percentage district, and he's lost it. So

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Speaker 2: if you don't think he's ending the war on that

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Speaker 2: and that alone, you're not awake.

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Speaker 9: Six forty five International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance

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Speaker 9: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business Jo McKenna.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 17: I'm excited?

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Speaker 18: How are you? Well?

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm You're watching them drop like flies as we speak.

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Speaker 2: Let me get to the resignations this game. Are the

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Speaker 2: resignations that quitting the problems the issues? Are they all

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Speaker 2: directly tied to the referendum or are they completely separate.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely tied to the referendum. We're seeing a blood bath.

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Speaker 17: Prime Minister Georgia Maloney is on the war path and

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Speaker 17: she wants to clean up any mess that is potentially

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Speaker 17: damaging to her future as a prime minister.

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's deal with the refereendum. First of all,

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Speaker 2: she lost it. I'm the reading I did was and

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Speaker 2: we've talked about it, you know, over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of it suggested it was a difficult question for people

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Speaker 2: to get their head around. Is that fear or not?

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Speaker 2: That was partly it.

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Speaker 17: I think it's important to remember for many Italians the

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Speaker 17: constitution is really sancrosanct and they don't want it to

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Speaker 17: be touched in the first place. These reforms were a

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Speaker 17: little bit muddy and it looked like a grab for

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Speaker 17: power by the Maloney government. But on top of that,

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Speaker 17: I think there were other factors, particularly for young people,

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Speaker 17: a lot of disillusionment about Maloney's close relationship to the

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Speaker 17: US President Donald Trump. They didn't like that, as well

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Speaker 17: as the proposed constitutional change. And so the young people

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Speaker 17: in particular were the biggest surprise here, Mike. Sixty one

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Speaker 17: percent of Generation Z turned out to vote on this reform.

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Speaker 2: It was about sixty percent overall. I think is that

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Speaker 2: a good number for a referendum.

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Speaker 17: That's almost a record in Italy people were turning out

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Speaker 17: in huge numbers, both yes and no, so.

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Speaker 2: They were exercised right, So the Tourism Minister is just gone.

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Speaker 2: Who else is going.

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 17: We've also had two other resignations in the last twenty

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Speaker 17: four hours. There's the Justice Minister's chief of staff who

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Speaker 17: was saying some pretty outrageous things during the campaign, and

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Speaker 17: also the Justice Minister's under secretary, Andrea del Mastro. Now

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Speaker 17: that is something that George Maloney should have cleaned up

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Speaker 17: well before the referendum. He has been linked to a

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Speaker 17: scandal business links with a restaurant that's linked to the

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Speaker 17: Naples mafia. So that was making headlines. How can you

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Speaker 17: run a referendum on justice reform if you've got someone

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Speaker 17: like that in the Justice ministry.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not a bad sort of question. Is the

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Speaker 2: government in trouble.

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Speaker 17: It's a little bit early to tell. As we've talked

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Speaker 17: about many times, Georgia Maloney had a very strong lead

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Speaker 17: over the opposition. The opposition parties are still weak. At

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Speaker 17: A sign of that, I think is as soon as

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Speaker 17: we've got the referendum results, instead of saying she should go,

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Speaker 17: we're demanding her resignation. They were saying, Oh, we better

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Speaker 17: get our together and start running some primaries. So I

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Speaker 17: think they've got a bit of work to do there too.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, She's in Algeria, So what's happening with your petrol

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Speaker 2: and your royalty, your heating and stuff like that. Are

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Speaker 2: people freaking out?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, there's a lot of panic going on, and I

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Speaker 17: think she had that on her schedule, but I think

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Speaker 17: it was something she seized on as well to resume

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Speaker 17: her role as the international statesman. So she was in

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Speaker 17: Algeria trying to negotiate a new energy deal. They've had disruption,

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Speaker 17: of course, in the supply of gas from Kata, and

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Speaker 17: it looks like they've reached a deal on that today,

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Speaker 17: but still a lot of panic. I think about where

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Speaker 17: Italy is going to get its energy sources.

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Speaker 2: What's your big problem? Is it oil or get I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously it's both, but as oil gets the bigger of

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Speaker 2: the problems a bit of both.

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Speaker 17: Algeria has become one of Italy's top gas suppliers. Before

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Speaker 17: Italy was very dependent on Russian gas before the Moscow

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Speaker 17: invasion of Ukraine. Algeria now accounts for thirty percent of

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Speaker 17: gas consumption in Italy. So it's pretty important.

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Speaker 2: Is it springtime? You're feeling warmthed? Is this something to

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Speaker 2: talk about, Joe.

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Speaker 17: I had a feeling you'd ask me about that. Today

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Speaker 17: was beautiful, but I'm seeing that the temperature is going

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Speaker 17: to drop about ten degrees in the next couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Oh, for goodness sake, I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: All right, Nice to see you, Joe McKenna in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Springtime in Italy, by the way, So isn't it funny?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it funny? When Trump arrived in power the Eastern

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Speaker 2: Europe in particularly everyone. You know, if you acted like Trump,

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Speaker 2: you did well politically. You know, if you were aligned

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Speaker 2: to Trump, you're a hit. If you sort of talk

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Speaker 2: like Trump, you were going to win an election. Whereas

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Speaker 2: now the guy's poison Australia. By the way, yesterday we

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Speaker 2: should be paying attention to this. What I was worried

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Speaker 2: about yesterday with lux And I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: pick this up, but he gave and they didn't that

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Speaker 2: once again, either the clip they ran was truncated foolishly

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Speaker 2: or they didn't ask him the appropriate question. So he

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Speaker 2: talks with the South Korea, the Malaysians and Wong and Singapore.

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Speaker 2: The obvious question is was he reassured by them that

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Speaker 2: ships would continue to come? That's the question. All he

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Speaker 2: did was, oh, well, we talked about the world and

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Speaker 2: how difficult it is at the moment. Now that either

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Speaker 2: means he got no reassurances or we didn't ask him.

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Speaker 2: But meantime, and this is what you should be paying

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Speaker 2: attention to, is Australia dealing with Japan. Japan yesterday seemed

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Speaker 2: to indicate that they would be prepared to help out

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Speaker 2: Australia in terms of oil supply if things become a

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Speaker 2: bit crunchy. Japan keeps at least two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: days aside, and this is where we might fall by

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Speaker 2: the wayside. Unfortunately, Australia has LNG and they say to

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Speaker 2: the Japanese, tell you what we can do. We'll give

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Speaker 2: you a bit of al and G and you give

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Speaker 2: us a bit of oil. And the Japanese seemed to

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Speaker 2: think that's a good idea. We of course, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we can give them a leg of lamb I guess

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Speaker 2: or whatever the going currency out of this country is.

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Speaker 2: But new sources is the point of that ten minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven the make.

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Speaker 1: Hosking, breakfast with rainthrow a sport.

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Speaker 13: SV's to dead.

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Speaker 2: Garland's giving you a briefing at the White House. Here's

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Speaker 2: the clue. The Trump she meeting is now confirmed for

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Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen May, so you can work backwards from there. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: they're giving themselves some runway to get the wall sorted out,

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Speaker 2: open up the strait of a moose. In fact, in

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Speaker 2: many respects, if you think about it, forcing the straight

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Speaker 2: open is more problematic than agreeing to open the strait,

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Speaker 2: which I'm convinced now is going to happen within the

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Speaker 2: next week as the ceasefire. I'll get to the guy.

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Speaker 2: They've got the most fascinating thing I've read, probably certainly

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Speaker 2: this week from the Telegraph yesterday, the Iranians, the guy

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Speaker 2: they put forward, the speaker, the one the Americans are

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Speaker 2: talking to. He's got a fascinating background and the rationale

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Speaker 2: as to why he's there and not the Foreign Minister.

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Speaker 2: Of course, all the rest of dead is interesting in

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Speaker 2: and of itself. While I've got you the ev thing's real.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday for the new registrations one thousand and thirty

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Speaker 2: three EVS and p heabs compair it to two hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty five this time last year, so two twenty

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Speaker 2: five up to one thousand and thirty three. It's twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of new registrations in cars in this country. Normally

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Speaker 2: it's five or six. So a chunk of New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: have materially gone out and bought themselves. An ev byd

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Speaker 2: are telling us they're completely sold out, five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now, the US economy, which is the other reason, as

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Speaker 2: I've said all along, this was going to end sooner

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Speaker 2: rather than later, is economists this morning have pushed up

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Speaker 2: their risk assessments of a recession in the US, which

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Speaker 2: is exactly what Trump needs as he's losing all these

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Speaker 2: seats to the Democrats and approaching the midterms. So what

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Speaker 2: have we got to at any given time. The risk

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Speaker 2: of recession in America over a twelve month period is

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Speaker 2: about twenty percent, So Moody's this morning they raised that

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Speaker 2: recession to forty eight point six over the next twelve months.

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Speaker 2: Wilmington Trust have gone to forty five e y Parthman

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Speaker 2: at forty caveat being the odds will rise rapidly with

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Speaker 2: a prolonged Middle East conflict. Really, what a surprise, hope,

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Speaker 2: no one's paying the money for this. Goldman Sachs is

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Speaker 2: hit thirty, So there. I don't know where they optimistic.

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Speaker 2: I guess all of them say the cutoff where fuel

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Speaker 2: and oil needs to come down is Memorial Day, which

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Speaker 2: is May twenty five. So if oil stays where it

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Speaker 2: is by Memorial Day, the odds of a recession in

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Speaker 2: America go to more than eighty percent. So just work

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Speaker 2: that through in your mind. From Trump's point of view, right,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want Memorial Day at eighty percent chance of

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Speaker 2: recession leading into the midterms. That really is the beginning,

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Speaker 2: the middle and the end of the thinking around the walk.

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Speaker 2: Has it gone the way he thought it would?

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Speaker 7: Know?

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Speaker 2: Is the off ramp tricky?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Will he get there? Yes?

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Speaker 9: Why?

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Speaker 2: Because he can't afford not to? And that's the real issue. Now,

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Speaker 2: planes Jetstar if you were catching one of those, Auckland

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Speaker 2: to Wellington, Auckland to christ Due to Aukland to Brisbane,

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Speaker 2: Auckland to Sydney, they pulled some of the services back.

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Speaker 2: Is this a thing we're all going to have some

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Speaker 2: education at home sort of. COVID two point zero cover

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Speaker 2: all of the developments out of Epic Fury for you.

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Speaker 1: Right after the news, which is next, the newsmakers and

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Speaker 1: the personalities, the big names talk to Mike, the mic Hosking,

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with A, Veda, Retirement Communities, Life your Way, news

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Speaker 1: talk said.

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Speaker 2: Be only thing Carolyn said, morning, by the way, seven

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Speaker 2: past seven. The only thing Carolyn said, have note so

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Speaker 2: far at the White House is the Americans are loosening

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Speaker 2: up their standards on oil. In other words, slightly dirty

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Speaker 2: your oil is going to be utilized by the American public.

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Speaker 2: But the questions on the peace plan, the talks which

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Speaker 2: we understand to be set to go in the weekend

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Speaker 2: in Pakistan, we're not getting any detail from here on

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Speaker 2: that at the moment, but we'll keep you posted obviously.

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Speaker 2: Meantime back here, related matters, of course, getting on a

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Speaker 2: plane getting a bit harder as Epic Fury bites into

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Speaker 2: that jet fuel access. Jet Star's gone and can twelve

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Speaker 2: percent of their services in New Zealand's already cut flights.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Billy Moore is the chief executive of the

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Speaker 2: Airport's Association and is with us, Billy, good morning, good morning?

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Speaker 4: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: There's all?

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Speaker 19: Whether this came from well, look, we would expect if

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Speaker 19: the challenges go on for a bit longer, there might

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Speaker 19: be some rolling cuts like this, but hopefully not at

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Speaker 19: more of a scale that we've seen already.

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Speaker 2: Does it actually affect me or is it more about

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Speaker 2: the airline's bottom line? I mean, if I can still

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Speaker 2: get there short of having a choice of three, I

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Speaker 2: now have a choice of two that I don't care

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Speaker 2: do I?

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Speaker 19: Well, it will depend on frequency and schedule. At the moment,

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Speaker 19: New Zealand already doesn't have the flight capacity that it

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Speaker 19: needs for the economy, so these cuts do have an

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Speaker 19: effect across the country in terms of making things a

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Speaker 19: bit harder, making business connectivity a bit harder. They're probably

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Speaker 19: sensible and pretty reasonable reactions from the airlines at the moment.

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Speaker 19: But it is a price issue right now, not a

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Speaker 19: supply issue with feel right So.

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Speaker 2: When you say this is what I'm trying to work out,

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Speaker 2: what could they bump the prices and carry on with

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Speaker 2: the flights or are they running to too big a

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Speaker 2: risk on demand or is it the access to jet

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Speaker 2: fuel they're worried about I.

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Speaker 19: Think they'll be thinks strategically about the path a head.

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Speaker 19: So yes, they could sump up the price, and that

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Speaker 19: is happening. We're seeing some fuel charges from your lines

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Speaker 19: as well, which are the reasonable thing to do. But

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Speaker 19: I think what they're doing is quite strategically looking at

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Speaker 19: where they can consolid flights, where there are flights that

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Speaker 19: could be merged into one, things like that. So we

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Speaker 19: can't really critcize that.

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Speaker 2: Are we seeing this all over the world. I mean,

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Speaker 2: are domestic Ish carriers in other parts of the world

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Speaker 2: doing the same sort of cutbacks, I know, United for example,

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Speaker 2: as cutting back stateside.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, not quite as much as we've seen here. I'd

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Speaker 19: say it has been a bit of a first mover

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Speaker 19: over here, and that might just be because there's a

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Speaker 19: bit less competition in New Zealand, so this kind of

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Speaker 19: reactions can be a.

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Speaker 11: Bit easier to do.

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Speaker 19: But look, it will happen.

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Speaker 10: There will be this.

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Speaker 19: Kind of trend overall. And look, so far it's good

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Speaker 19: to see, for instance, in New Zealand protecting some of

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Speaker 19: those small reasonal routes. Look, that's the key question is

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Speaker 19: how long it's going to last.

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Speaker 2: And we've just got to hope nobody knows the first

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Speaker 2: move of things? Interesting, Are we panicking a bit?

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Speaker 11: Look?

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Speaker 19: I don't think so. I mean these are for instance,

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Speaker 19: an Zeland cuts about four percent of their domestic network.

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Speaker 19: This is jet Star twelve percent.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, but they haven't got much of the network.

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Speaker 19: That's right, You're exactly right. And they did boost the

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Speaker 19: network by twenty percent already in the past twelve months,

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Speaker 19: so it is it isn't so bad a story on

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Speaker 19: that side. But look, the demand is there. I would

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Speaker 19: be very optimistic that the capacity will bounce back.

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Speaker 2: Is if jet fuel gets crunchy, what happens on the

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Speaker 2: flight that comes from London? Is there an international agreement

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Speaker 2: that we've got to refuel them? Or do we tell

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Speaker 2: them before they get here that we can't or won't

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Speaker 2: or whatever, and therefore they never come in the first place.

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Speaker 19: There are some really well worn processes for how aviations

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Speaker 19: deals with these kind of issues. There are fuel allocation

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Speaker 19: process users that help us look at what a slightly

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Speaker 19: smaller shoe door might look like. So people can be

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Speaker 19: very confident that if we did get to that stage,

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Speaker 19: and we're not there yet, if we did get to

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Speaker 19: that stage, it would be an organized and predictable process,

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Speaker 19: and that's what we're working with government to plan ahead

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Speaker 19: on now, just in case we get to get to

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Speaker 19: that point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Billy, appreciate it very much. Billy Moore, who's the

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Speaker 2: chief executive of New Zealand Airport's Association. Related matters. Eleven

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven as Mardin Point become the star of

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Speaker 2: the epic Fury Show A channel infrastructure run it of

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Speaker 2: course newest ideas they restore a bunch of tanks for

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Speaker 2: fuel storage. They've got around three hundred million leads currently

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Speaker 2: in use. There's another three hundred and fifty million leters

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Speaker 2: available for conversion. Robie Cannon is the chief executive and

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Speaker 2: he's with us. Rob morning, Good morning, Mike. You enjoying

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Speaker 2: your time in the Shane Jones Sun.

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Speaker 8: Well. Look, I think our role in all of this

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Speaker 8: is to keep our heads down as much as we

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Speaker 8: can and keep doing the job that we do, which

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Speaker 8: is to provide fuel residency for New Zealand through import

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Speaker 8: terminal services, storage and distribution down our pipeline.

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Speaker 2: As a big picture idea of the three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty million you got, is it worth converting anyway?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So those tanks. To be clear, we're all cleaned out

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Speaker 8: post conversion from a refinery to an important terminal, and

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Speaker 8: they are all excrude tanks, so they can't you can't

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Speaker 8: immediately put petrol or jet fuel in them. There are

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Speaker 8: tanks there that you can put diesel into much more quickly,

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Speaker 8: which is one of the options that we've been looking at.

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Speaker 8: Our perspective is and actually I think the government's own

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Speaker 8: fuel security investigation found that the best way to build

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Speaker 8: domestic fuel resilience is through increased storage. And obviously we've

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Speaker 8: got a lot of capacity there we can convert if needed.

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Speaker 2: And when you say you would you do it anyway

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Speaker 2: or do you need government help?

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Speaker 8: So to be clear, we've already been increasing our storage.

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Speaker 8: So since conversion to a terminal, we've added one hundred

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Speaker 8: million liters of new fuel storage and we've funded that

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Speaker 8: all ourselves. In terms of any further conversions of those tanks,

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Speaker 8: we would absolutely fund that ourselves. I think the key

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Speaker 8: issue is that we would need a customer for those

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Speaker 8: tanks at the end of it. So we're going to

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Speaker 8: spend the money and do the works to bring a

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Speaker 8: tank into service, we need somebody that wants to put

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Speaker 8: fuel in it.

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Speaker 2: Is there somebody outside the government.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think that that's the discussion that we want

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Speaker 8: to have, right and from our perspective, our role in

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Speaker 8: the supply chain is to provide the storage and do

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Speaker 8: that in a very resilient and safe way. And you know,

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Speaker 8: the fuel companies are the ones that own the fuel

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Speaker 8: and bring that into New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Well, at timeframe on this, if you've got the go

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Speaker 2: ahead right now? Timeframes?

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Speaker 8: What we think there's a couple of tanks in particular

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Speaker 8: that have current certificates and are in pretty good condition

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Speaker 8: that could be brought into service in the next two

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Speaker 8: or three months.

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Speaker 2: All right, good on, appreciate your time, Rob, you can.

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Speaker 2: Who's with cham My big question out of this whole thing,

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Speaker 2: We're not there yet, but we'll ask it eventually, is

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Speaker 2: do you think this is a tipping point moment in

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Speaker 2: which we will make some large, profound decisions, whether personally

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Speaker 2: or as a country, to become more self reliant and

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Speaker 2: less reliant on one government's and two international shipping channels,

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Speaker 2: Or if this thing in shortly, will we simply go

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Speaker 2: back to being the way we were previously fourteen past.

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Speaker 20: At b.

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Speaker 2: Levitz just wrapped up at the White House. She said,

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Speaker 2: the four to six week timeline is still their plan

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Speaker 2: sixteen past seven. So we've got to report into the

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Speaker 2: efficiency of our energy sector. It's called the re Energized

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Speaker 2: twenty six Framework. Warms Without the right skills and workers,

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Speaker 2: projects could be delayed, growth missed, this lack of coordination

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Speaker 2: across the sector. Blah blah blah. I mean they've written

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Speaker 2: a million pecket sector, they've written a report about it.

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Speaker 2: Louise Upston is the Minister for Social Development and Employment

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Speaker 2: and is with us. Louise morning, Good morning mine. Is

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Speaker 2: this sector any different from any other sector that doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the right skills or the right workers and things

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Speaker 2: could get delayed if you write a report and tell

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Speaker 2: everyone about it.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think one of the important thing is that

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Speaker 13: they're actually really recognizing that energy is an enormous growth sector.

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Speaker 13: New Zealand needs to ensure that we have electricity and

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Speaker 13: energy when we need it, and so they're thinking ahead,

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Speaker 13: which I think is really important. And often when we

817
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Speaker 13: think about electricity, we think about energy, we think about

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Speaker 13: towers and power plants and wire than those sorts of things.

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Speaker 13: But actually they're thinking about the people that are needed

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Speaker 13: and the skills that are needed when they're needed to

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Speaker 13: ensure we can build all of that. So I think

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Speaker 13: it's really sensible, and MB's been involved from a data

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Speaker 13: and analytics perspective just to help them. What's the work

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Speaker 13: they're already doing?

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon? The problem? Is is it school?

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Speaker 2: So in other words, school kids don't know anything about

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Speaker 2: this industry and never think about it. Is it a

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Speaker 2: job that no one wants any way even if they

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Speaker 2: did know about it, Or is it about people leaving

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Speaker 2: the country and the skills.

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Speaker 11: Left for all of that?

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Speaker 13: I think there's a combination of fect is one of

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Speaker 13: the subjects that definitely came up yesterday in the discussion was,

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Speaker 13: you know, how do we attract more people into the

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Speaker 13: energy sector as the MP for top or geo thermal

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Speaker 13: is a really exciting area. But actually I'm not sure

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Speaker 13: enough of our school kids locally, lit alone across the

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Speaker 13: country understand our critical energy is for our future. Gens

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Speaker 13: of every home, every business, every government agency, hospitals all

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Speaker 13: require energy and you know, being a country that's serious

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Speaker 13: about our climate emissions. We actually need to be developing

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Speaker 13: greater resilience as well. So yes, I think attraction is

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Speaker 13: one of the challenges and that was raised yesterday and

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Speaker 13: it's one of the key priorities in the report. It's

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Speaker 13: also about building the capability that's in the existing workforce.

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Speaker 13: How do they get people up to speed faster, And

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Speaker 13: when you've got a growing sector, one of the challenges

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Speaker 13: you might be attracting more people in, but then you've

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Speaker 13: got to have the existing workforce who are then freed

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Speaker 13: up to train and mentor and develop the new people

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Speaker 13: coming in. So and yes, retention is part of it.

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Speaker 13: But look, this is a really sensible move for a

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Speaker 13: workforce that is growing and will continue to grow, and

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Speaker 13: they have identified it early and have identified that actually

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Speaker 13: what is needed is coordination across the industry. So two

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Speaker 13: industry organizations have come together, the Electricity Engineers Association and

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Speaker 13: Energy Resources are CERROA working with mb to come up

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Speaker 13: with this plan. And then the intention is just to

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Speaker 13: make sure that they're working more together across the industry

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Speaker 13: and building a workforce together. So it makes a lot

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Speaker 13: of sense, and particularly when we know it's a growth

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Speaker 13: industry and energy will be so critical to growing the

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Speaker 13: economy overall and making sure there are more opportunities for

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Speaker 13: more new Zealanders.

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Speaker 2: That is the truth. Nice to talk to you, Louise Upston.

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Speaker 2: Let me come back to the F one fuel in

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Speaker 2: a moment to watch this video. They grow grass turn

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Speaker 2: it into petrol. It's incredible. All scientists, all scientists. So

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Speaker 2: there's a future of energy anyway more. Shortly seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: Now you're going to want to look this up. Very

873
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: few developments that genuinely make you stop and take notice.

874
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: Pillars is one of them. So just twitty homes across

875
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: two architecturally striking buildings. They're overlooking Saint Mary's Bay, which

876
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: is as good as it gets. You're talking water front

877
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: the city, some of Auckland's best neighborhoods right on your doorstep.

878
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 2: This has been developed by Precinct and designed by jazz Max.

879
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: They're generously proportioned two and bedroom home, all approximately two

880
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: hundred squares with dual aspect layouts, drawing a natural light

881
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: from morning through to the evening. Now depending on the

882
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: home you choose, you'll enjoy either a north facing private

883
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: landscape garden or a harbor facing balcony. Upper level residents

884
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: is enjoying sweeping views across the white matter in the

885
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: city skyline, and where a quarter of the homes already sold.

886
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: Interest is going to be strong. So if this sounds

887
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: a bit of you, Pillars dot co dot nz brilliant

888
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: website spent some time on it this morning. The display

889
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: suite Fortintonbury's Road both open on the weekend eleven to one.

890
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: You can arrange a private viewing through Louise Stringer or

891
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: Dominic Donahey. This is at Bailey's licensed under the re

892
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: double A Act of two thousand and eight, but the

893
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: website see if you don't love it Pillars dot co

894
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: dot Nz Husky sevent twenty four. I note the winging

895
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: has started from the ev owners already, as their fixed

896
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: price deals for recharging their leafs at home has come

897
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: to an end. Some claim the new deals being offered

898
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: by the power company is going to be fifty percent higher.

899
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: How can you possibly be surprised? Did you think you

900
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: would get away with it forever for a while. The

901
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: more deluded you may remember lauded the road tax loophole

902
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: as well, until that got closed. Anyway, the power companies

903
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: see EV owners work this out. They see you as

904
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: a new revenue stream, as petrol may or may not

905
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: become a commodity not worth bothering with anymore, at least

906
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: for cars. Car dealers will be licking their lips that

907
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: a product three and a half short weeks ago they

908
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: couldn't shift for love nor money may have awake time

909
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: as the desperadoes clamber in for something that unshackles them

910
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 2: from the tyranny of oil. But equally, if it becomes

911
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: a thing. It is way too early to say whether

912
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: or not it is, of course, but if it does,

913
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: power companies will not believe their luck in almost entirely

914
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: new revenue stream, not just from a whole new series

915
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: of customers, but old customers paying way more. Now that

916
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: they've got you hooked in. We must remember power prices

917
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: arising because renewable investment and basicline maintenance. Of course, the

918
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: Commerce Commission has allowed big increases for you and me

919
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: to upgrade the infrastructure. So maybe the way to see

920
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: an EV is not about the cost, although it is

921
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: still cheaper, but more about the convenience. Despite the doom merchants,

922
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: we are no longer running out of power, So don't

923
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: text me ever again about if we all get EV's

924
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: we're going to run out of power. We're not. In fact,

925
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: one of the country's most upbeat stories. We've seemingly transitioned

926
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: or will pretty well in terms of baseload and meeting ongoing,

927
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: if not growing demand. It's why Sri Lanka overnight has

928
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: turned the kneon signs off and told office workers to

929
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: kill the ac. They don't have Clyde, they don't have Tapo, getherrmal.

930
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 2: They need oil.

931
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 21: Now.

932
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: This won't be a moment, by the way, in case

933
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: you're thinking of it, this won't be a moment for

934
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: public transport. They've blown that it's too unreliable. So the

935
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: current burst of patronage we're seeing that'll vanish as quickly

936
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: as it arrived. But evs might be having their moment,

937
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: and once you're in you might not go back. That

938
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: critical tipping point might have been provided by a war

939
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: pasking is switchgrass is what it is. You grow a

940
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: field of switch grass and you can make fuel that

941
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: at this point anyway runs if one cars and if

942
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: it can run an F one car. It's to be

943
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: eventually able to run yours. It's hideously expensive, as I

944
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: explained yesterday, but switchgrass grows in crappy soil and you

945
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: don't have to turn the soil over very often either.

946
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: You can grow crop after crop after crop after crop.

947
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: It's all done in the lab. It's all science and scientists,

948
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: but those are the sort of This is the sort

949
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: of future. If you can grow a crappy old crop

950
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: and turn it into petrol, and that solves our problem.

951
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: We've got something bright to look forward to, but well

952
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: worth looking up. Kim Illman is his name. He's done

953
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: the piece on it and it started off my I

954
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: alluded to it yesterday. It costs like forty thousand dollars

955
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: to fill in F one car. So the cost is

956
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: the issue at the moment, but it won't always be.

957
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: Jenny Smith, musician, got a song from her.

958
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,879
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959
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,000
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960
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961
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: Jenny Smith has got her David Weldon. It's coming up tomorrow,

962
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: so we're getting her in today, and she was going

963
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: to come on the program a couple of years ago.

964
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the story on ear was the telling

965
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: other people anyway, you mentioned it in passing at the

966
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: end of the timeime, So if another sent me flowers

967
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: and I don't remember that, and I have no idea

968
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: why he sent me flowers, but he did apparently. And

969
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: then COVID came along and she never came in, and

970
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: I've been sitting here pining, wondering whatever happened to her. Anyway,

971
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: they've they've got her back, and her debut Welden is

972
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: out tomorrow, so she isn't for a song after eight. Meantime,

973
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: the government, speaking tomorrow, are going to be letting us

974
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: know if the oil becomes a real issue, what the

975
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: plan is. But meantime, the Ministry of Education apparently is

976
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: working on some remote learning options now. The Associate Minister

977
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: of Education is, of course David Seymour, who's with us.

978
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning mate. The stories I'm hearing relief

979
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: teachers canceling, How real is that? How big a problem

980
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: is this in education at the moment.

981
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 21: I think whenever you have a situation like this, it's

982
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 21: always tempting to take an example of something that may

983
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 21: happen every day, view it through the lens of a

984
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 21: perceived crisis, and then and fate it further. That's how

985
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 21: this momentum gets going. I'm determined that we're going to

986
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 21: learn the lessons of COVID and be sensible. In the

987
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 21: last week, we've had days where school attendance across the

988
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 21: country was ninety one percent. That is very very good

989
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 21: because we and it's possible to know that because we

990
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 21: track attendance daily now. So I think it's important to

991
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 21: keep your head on the eye on the data and keep.

992
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: A call head.

993
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: And is everyone keeping the call head or just you?

994
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: Within government?

995
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 21: I think the government has been very very calm, working

996
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 21: through what the scenarios are, making sure that if we

997
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 21: need to go to a demand side plan, and that's

998
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 21: a long way in the future and it's hypothetical, we

999
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 21: will have done it properly. Our predecessors through COVID very

1000
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 21: good at making the announcements, not so good at the

1001
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 21: follow up. We are taking a stance of making sure

1002
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 21: we get the work done in the background before we

1003
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 21: rush off twenty podiums.

1004
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: I dread the idea of kids going back home to learn.

1005
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you do too. What would it take for

1006
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: that to happen?

1007
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 21: Well, first of all, is a very strong sense in

1008
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 21: our cabinet that we're not going to repeat the mistake

1009
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 21: of putting education down the totem pole of priorities.

1010
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: For that to happen, we would have to get to.

1011
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 21: A scenario where there were severe fuel disruptions and we

1012
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 21: were reduced to maintaining essential life supporting services ambulances, police

1013
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 21: hospitals and essential food supply. But we're not even close

1014
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 21: to that, and the government's response is to work on

1015
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 21: the supply side first. So I've had the Prime Minister

1016
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 21: talk to the Prime Minister of South Korea, sorry, President

1017
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 21: of South Korea, Prime Minister of Singapore, tracking the ships,

1018
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 21: making sure the supply is working with like minded friends

1019
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 21: such as the Australians, and I think that we can

1020
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 21: avert that. But we're very clear that in the scenario

1021
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 21: where we had to start restricting, we will not be

1022
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 21: sacrificing education the way that it was done last time,

1023
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 21: because there will be a long term future for New

1024
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 21: Zealand and a lot of that future will be determined

1025
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 21: by how well educated the population is that will be

1026
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 21: determined by how many children went to school.

1027
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 2: You raise very important point Luckson's discussions, which wasn't covered

1028
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: properly in the media at all yesterday. Did he get

1029
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: reassurance that we're okay for now? So, in other words,

1030
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: beyond the stuff on the water, that beyond that there

1031
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: is something for us to be hopeful about or not,

1032
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: we don't know.

1033
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 21: Look, I think it's positive that the thing is the

1034
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 21: way I think about this, You've got to look at

1035
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 21: the military situation. Then on top of that layer is

1036
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 21: the fuel supply situation, and then on top of that

1037
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 21: is the policy responses and the business responses that you see.

1038
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 15: In New Zealand.

1039
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 21: The challenge, of course is the military situation. Nobody I suspect,

1040
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 21: including the people involved in it, can predict what is

1041
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 21: going to happen tomorrow, let alone next week. So with

1042
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 21: that uncertainty in the background, we're in a very good position,

1043
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 21: as good as could be.

1044
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Okay, The other thing we got you on this morning,

1045
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: this search out thing is I mean, what the hell's

1046
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: going on?

1047
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 11: Is it on?

1048
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: Or it's off? Look, it's off right, So David Seymour says,

1049
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: it's off. Full stop correct. Yes, that's right, So Scott

1050
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 2: Simpson can put out all the press releases he wants.

1051
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: He's wrong.

1052
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 21: Well, what he said is he's continuing to work on

1053
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 21: options to reduce those charges, and that's always been the

1054
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 21: desire because people hate these charges. What's come back to

1055
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 21: us very very strongly is that if it was to

1056
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 21: be banned the way initially proposed, all it would do

1057
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 21: is put costs on to small businesses. So you imagine

1058
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 21: a motel perhaps a husband and wife team put their

1059
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 21: life savings into a million bucks a year through the

1060
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 21: payment system, you take two percent fee that that comes

1061
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 21: out of their bottom line, and that is something that they.

1062
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: Can ill afford.

1063
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 21: What's more, they're likely to somewhat if they can put

1064
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 21: prices up, and that's going to be paid by people

1065
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 21: who use cash and fos. So there's a bunch of

1066
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 21: reasons why you wouldn't do it this way. Pamji Palmer,

1067
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 21: the ACTMP in the Select Committee, proposed to a work

1068
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 21: through which was that, look, you can still charge the

1069
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 21: fees so long as you also give your customers a

1070
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 21: free option. And that's fair because look, if you want

1071
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 21: payway good, I mean I like using it too, but

1072
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 21: it doesn't seem fair to put the costs of that

1073
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 21: use onto other people.

1074
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: So can I say that both of you are right?

1075
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: Then yep.

1076
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: And often that's the case.

1077
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 21: People like to catastrophize politics, but sometimes you've got to

1078
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 21: recognize most people, most of the time, they're trying to

1079
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 21: do the right thing, reacting as they get information, just

1080
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 21: as you've seen with this fish thing. So you know

1081
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 21: that's politics and it's no bad thing.

1082
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: Right just before you go tomorrow. I don't know if

1083
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: it's at one o'clock, but tomorrow's big reveal on what

1084
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: the next stages could be. Given your optimistic outlook that

1085
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: you've expressed this morning, is tomorrow going to be anything

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Speaker 2: that people are going to spend the weekend getting freaked

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Speaker 2: out about or not.

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Speaker 21: I think the point of tomorrow will be to make

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Speaker 21: sure it's very clear to everybody what would happen if

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Speaker 21: there was a major disruption and supply to our country.

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Speaker 21: It would be comp depletely reckless not to prepare for that,

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Speaker 21: So of course we're doing it, and there's a lot

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Speaker 21: of hard work going on talking to businesses about how

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Speaker 21: it would work, so that we make sure we prioritize

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Speaker 21: really well. But it's also important to emphasize that that's

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Speaker 21: not the plan. We're making the plan so we're ready,

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Speaker 21: and frankly, we're being prepared so we don't have to

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Speaker 21: use it rather than heading off into disaster management politics,

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Speaker 21: which cost this country so dearly and we're still paying

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Speaker 21: for it just around years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeh and d all right, appreciate it. David Seymore, the

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Speaker 2: Associate Education Ministry. Yeah, the media yesterday and I can't

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Speaker 2: remember who it was. I think there might have been

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Speaker 2: a couple of them, since we're down to eleven or

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Speaker 2: twelve days of diesel, which isn't true. I mean on

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00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: land they never go. You know, it's all the small print.

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00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: On land, it might be, but of course the rest

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Speaker 2: is coming, and that's the key to all of this.

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Speaker 2: And what I don't want to see is a lot

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Speaker 2: of alarmism going on because we're predisposed. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a certain percentage of New Zealanders who are predisposed to panic.

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Speaker 2: And the last thing we need is that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Phil Rosenthaler was on the program Tuesday, Somebody feed Phil.

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Speaker 2: So he was talking about the tourism groups and all

1115
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, and I said, well, you know,

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why Tourism New Zealand wouldn't get behind you,

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: and you know, get him to New Zealand and get

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Speaker 2: YouTube slash Netflix to New Zealand. He can do a

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Speaker 2: show about New Zealand and put us on the map,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Anyway, we tagged it or sent it out

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Speaker 2: on the socials. That's what we did. Tag Pure in

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00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: New Zealand account. That's their global branding initiative. And they

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Speaker 2: came back and said, hint, taken on it with emojis. Now,

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Speaker 2: I always think that's an exciting thing. So let's watch

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Speaker 2: the Space sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio now

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Speaker 1: ad By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be thirteen away from Mike. Why are Watts and

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Speaker 2: McCain shutting? Wages or power prices?

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Speaker 22: Will all of that?

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Speaker 2: If you can be bothered, and you should. Actually, it

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00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: was a very good piece. The newsroom site. A couple

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Speaker 2: of maybe only a week ago, possibly two did a

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Speaker 2: one of their They write link the old pieces that lot.

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Speaker 2: But you know, often they're interesting and they provide a

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Speaker 2: level of detail no one else does. They looked at

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Speaker 2: what happened. It wasn't McCain's at that point. It was Watties,

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Speaker 2: but it appeared to me to go back to the

1139
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: days you can blame PAMs and house brands essentially, so

1140
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of stuff was going on. But what

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00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: happened to Watties was a decade in the making. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing new about it. It's not the sudden cost of

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Speaker 2: living crisis. It's not COVID, there's nothing. It's been a

1144
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Speaker 2: decade in the making, and it's got access to supermarkets.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole bunch of stuff that they explain. None

1146
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Speaker 2: of it, unfortunately, should be a surprise. So McCain's problem

1147
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Speaker 2: will be what's problem, which is just generally a manufacturing

1148
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Speaker 2: problem in this country. Westpac yesterday, I'm afraid to tell

1149
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Speaker 2: you this is our good mate Kelly as an ech old.

1150
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Speaker 2: They've revised down their forecast for the country. How they

1151
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: know this, I don't know this for Q two, which

1152
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Speaker 2: is April, May and June, which hasn't even happened yet,

1153
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Speaker 2: but they're obviously forecasting some that would sort of flow

1154
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: through from epic fury. They think the GDP is going

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Speaker 2: to fall zero point four in the June quarter. There's

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Speaker 2: going to be a dropping household spending. I think that's

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Speaker 2: a fair guess. There's going to be an increase in

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00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: living costs, that's an even more fair guess. And there's

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Speaker 2: going to be falls in consumer confidence. I reckon that's

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Speaker 2: probably already happened. I mean the numbers they gave you

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Speaker 2: out of Australia yesterday, their quote was death spiral. Consumer

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Speaker 2: confidence numbers came out. Yes, it's in a death spiral.

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Speaker 2: So they were forecasting for the year GDP of three

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Speaker 2: point three and that really is by anyone's standards, extremely good.

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Speaker 2: And they were forecasting three points something for next year

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Speaker 2: as well. So the labor market would now remain weak,

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Speaker 2: they say, until the middle of the unemployment peaks at

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Speaker 2: five point six, ending twenty six at five point four.

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Speaker 2: House price is now expected to fall. So for the

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Speaker 2: year four So depending on who you ask, house prices

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Speaker 2: were going up a bit or a smedge. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think somebody had them like rising by seven percent

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Speaker 2: this year. Then they pull it back to five and

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Speaker 2: then we're around about three or four. Now they think

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Speaker 2: it'll fall zero point nine for the year. Inflation to

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Speaker 2: peak at four went one, which is not Australia. Charmers

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Speaker 2: are saying five plus for Australia, but here four point one.

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Speaker 2: It'll remain above three percent through the first quarter of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. So, in other words, if Kelly's right,

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Speaker 2: you're reimagining the look of the economy and election year,

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Speaker 2: which is no small thing. Nine away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks.

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Speaker 2: There'd be Mike predictions for laws on this weekend. How's

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Speaker 2: he going to do? Good question? I think, well, I

1185
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Speaker 2: think it's a good car. He loves the track. He's

1186
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: got good experience of the track. He was in the

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Speaker 2: Super Series, of course, and they did a lot of

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Speaker 2: racing in that particular part of the world. I'll come

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Speaker 2: back to that in the moment, because the fai IS

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Speaker 2: announcesday investor n investigation into Mercedes this morning. Seven away

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Speaker 2: from eight. Right, if m A financial markets authorities had

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Speaker 2: to look at our ability to access financial advice, turns

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Speaker 2: out most of us don't. Just twenty eight percent did

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Speaker 2: something about it. Nick Carr Haykes is the CEO of

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Speaker 2: Financial Advice to New Zealand and is with US Nicker,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Could it be the twenty eight percent did it because

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Speaker 2: they wanted to need it to and the rest of

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Speaker 2: us just getting on with life and we're fine, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much.

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Speaker 15: I mean, what the report said is that people do

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Speaker 15: want it because they think about it at least every month,

1204
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Speaker 15: and we interact with financial products every day of our lives,

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Speaker 15: and so people do want it. But what their review

1206
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 15: said is that they don't really know how or potentially

1207
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Speaker 15: what it is, and so clearly there's an opportunity for

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Speaker 15: people to go and seek financial advice.

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Speaker 2: Are there two groups and the ones I need help

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00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: because I'm in trouble versus the I wouldn't mind knowing

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Speaker 2: what to do with my money and things I haven't

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Speaker 2: thought about in type group?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely a bit of both, you know. I think,

1214
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 15: let's be honest, we're not very good talking about money,

1215
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 15: no matter what ap situation. Money is often the biggest

1216
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 15: cause of stress, no matter what a situation, and a

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Speaker 15: little bit similar to our health complaint is that if

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Speaker 15: we sweep it under the carpet until it's too late.

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Speaker 15: When people do get financial advice, they usually say I

1220
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Speaker 15: wish i'd started a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are young people a problem in terms of excess.

1222
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Speaker 15: All age groups are a problem. That's what the review

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Speaker 15: has identified. Help people younger people interact and start engaging

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Speaker 15: with financial advice is going to be different to people

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Speaker 15: at the other end of the spectrum, who are, you know,

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Speaker 15: maybe transitioning into retirement. And I think that's the challenge

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Speaker 15: and the opportunity for the advice profession is to meet

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Speaker 15: people where they're at.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's on you, guys, really,

1230
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Speaker 2: isn't it, Because at the end of the day, I

1231
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: find you ever seek advice and things don't go well

1232
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: for me, that's on me. But if you can get

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Speaker 2: to me and convince me, then you know, A you've

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Speaker 2: got business and B you've helped me out.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, let's start with the latter. Is that if we

1236
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 15: get you earlier, we know that you will be better off.

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Speaker 15: And so that is the challenge for the financial advice profession,

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00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 15: and you know, that's why we're driving a lot of

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00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 15: the initiatives in the public space to build that awareness

1240
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Speaker 15: and address some of the findings of the fma's review.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nick nick Haiks, who was the chief financial

1242
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: officer at the Financial Advice in New Zealand Group four

1243
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: minutes away from Ete past. Might I think that worked out?

1244
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: What media means manufacturer, extreme drama, ideologically aligned. It's not bad,

1245
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, it's the weather. That's some weather in the

1246
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: northern part of the country. This morning's bit of rain

1247
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: in Northland. I hope in the very specific area weather's

1248
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: a red warning. The media now report just warnings. So

1249
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: it used to be it used to be there's a

1250
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: storm coming, or there's windcoming or something. Now they just

1251
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: say warnings. There's fifteen warnings out there, as though that's

1252
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: a thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they used to have colors.

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Speaker 23: You see now that they've got colors exactly exactly what

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Speaker 23: kind of warning they are.

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Speaker 2: You're read and there are fifteen of them. They were

1257
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: saying that yesterday, as though though I give them monkeys.

1258
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: It's like the met Service issues warnings like there's no tomorrow.

1259
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,959
Speaker 4: They should say all green today, guys, go for your life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's like sooner or later we'll get

1261
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: it too. Shell Pass is my great hope. Now I've

1262
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: worked myself up and I have don't have time to

1263
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: tell you about Mercedes anyway Mercedes if one potentially got trouble.

1264
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: I FIA is investigating their their wings front end back

1265
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: accusation that they're a bit Dodge and that will come

1266
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: to play potentially in Japan this coming weekend Music Shortly

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Speaker 2: with Jenny Smith.

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Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 4: Heead b you're a great so sylvesberration.

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Speaker 16: That it's up my imagine soon.

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Speaker 2: Hit is seven minutes past eight. Exciting times for Jenny Smith.

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01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: She's well, she almost got on the show in twenty

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01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: twenty one, then Covid Heath. But tomorrow her debut album

1276
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: drops and a tour ensues. She's been in music since

1277
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: she was twelve, got the Songwriter of the Year Country

1278
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: Music Awards back in twenty eighteen. Her singles from the

1279
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 2: album are already charting. Jenny Smith was with us lovely

1280
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: to see you mate at last, lovely to see you.

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Speaker 2: What have you been doing? First of all, let's celebrate Mirror,

1282
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: which is number one on the hot charts. I mean

1283
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: number one, it's number one.

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Speaker 22: It's crazy.

1285
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: You can't argue with that. No, do you get up

1286
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: every morning and look at the charts to see where

1287
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: you are?

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 7: No?

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01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 16: No, they they tagged me on Instagram and it just

1290
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Speaker 16: blew my mind.

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Speaker 2: No way, isn't that exciting? Good on you? What have

1292
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: you been doing in the ensuing? So you did you

1293
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: hear twenty twenty one? It's a long time ago. What

1294
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: have you done since then?

1295
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 16: I graduated my songwriting degree at Auckland University, and then

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01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 16: I started teaching music and took a slight break from releasing,

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Speaker 16: and then I started releasing again in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 16: and I released.

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Speaker 22: An EP in.

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Speaker 16: Twenty twenty four. So, yeah, I'm releasing my debut album.

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Speaker 16: It comes out at midnight to night?

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Speaker 2: Really, how exciting is it?

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Speaker 16: It's I've been working on it for three years, So

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Speaker 16: exciting is like a less a word for it.

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Speaker 9: Is it good?

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Speaker 22: The album? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So the reason I ask is we feature music on

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Speaker 2: this program, and they often put in things like this

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Speaker 2: album was recorded in two weeks. This album was recorded

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Speaker 2: in a mass session lasting twenty four And I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: to myself, I wouldn't say that publicly yet You've gone

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Speaker 2: for three years. Do you run the risk of overthinking it.

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Speaker 16: It was less about overthinking and more about the fact

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Speaker 16: that I'm an independent artist, so I have to find

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Speaker 16: the time to go to record, but I also fund

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Speaker 16: it myself.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's hard work. The graduation in teaching or

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Speaker 2: learning music officially, does that help in terms of performance,

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Speaker 2: artistry creativity?

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Speaker 16: I definitely learned a lot in my time studying songwriting.

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Speaker 16: I think it made me think a little bit more

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Speaker 16: in depth about what I'm writing. It arguably made my

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Speaker 16: songwriting process slower because I go back and tweak things

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Speaker 16: multiple times, but I think it paid off.

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Speaker 2: So literally, what do you learn in writing? Is there

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Speaker 2: a structure to it that they would teach you to follow.

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Speaker 16: So not really a structure. They teach you different routes

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Speaker 16: of creativity, so they give you different criterias, so they'll

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Speaker 16: be like, today, you're going to write a song about

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 16: something that you've heard on the news and then present

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01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 16: it to us next week when you've edited it kind

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Speaker 16: of thing. And just doing that and learning that there

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Speaker 16: are different ways to write songs was really beneficial.

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Speaker 2: Can I believe you're a Taylor Swift fan?

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Speaker 8: Is that right?

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Speaker 16: Huge?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: Right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm a massive Taylor Swift fan, but not

1341
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Speaker 2: in the way that you probably are, in the sense

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Speaker 2: what I admire her. She's clearly a genius with words.

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: Would that assessment be fair? Just talking about songwriting stuff?

1344
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Speaker 2: The stuff she comes out with verbally is little short

1345
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Speaker 2: or brilliant at times.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm a Swift you because of her music. Primarily.

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Speaker 16: I don't go into her life or anything. No, and

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Speaker 16: I definitely got into songwriting because of Taylor. I remember

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 16: being seven or eight years old watching C four all

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01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 16: the music videos and Taylor Swift came on and I

1351
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 16: was like, that is what I want to do. And

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Speaker 16: then I beg my mum to get me the CD

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Speaker 16: with the Romeo and Juliet song on it, and.

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Speaker 2: There you go, and yeah, here I am, and it's

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Speaker 2: become real. Yeah, that's fantastic. Now you've the first guest,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I've been doing the show for eighteen years,

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Speaker 2: you are the first guest who has ever bought me

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Speaker 2: baking You're kidding. I wish I was, Mike.

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Speaker 10: I know.

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Speaker 2: So I haven't opened it because I don't like to

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Speaker 2: open gifts in front of people.

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Speaker 8: What is it?

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Speaker 16: It is biscuit slice, But what's that mean, it's a

1364
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 16: fudge with biscuits in it.

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01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: Wow, and you made that? Is it your recipe?

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Speaker 22: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is it delicious?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 16: You never had any complains?

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Speaker 2: That fair enough to Now what your videos? I watched

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Speaker 2: one yesterday Mirror, which I believe, as we've said, is

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Speaker 2: number one on the hot charts at the moment, And

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Speaker 2: the other one I watched was the bloke in the supermarket.

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Speaker 2: Your videos seem to have I don't know what they

1375
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: would like, a quirkiness to it, like a touch of

1376
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: humor to them. That's obviously deliberate.

1377
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Speaker 22: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: I love having a bit of humor in there. It

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 16: just keeps everything white. But I do wonder what will

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Speaker 16: happen the day that I write a really sad song

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Speaker 16: for a single. I don't know what I'm going to

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01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 16: do with that as a music video, but I'll figure

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Speaker 16: out something.

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: Well, good on you. What are you going to play

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Speaker 2: for us after the break?

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01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 16: I'm going to play Mirror for you?

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 7: Now?

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: Is Mirror the song that's number one on the hot

1389
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: charts of the moment? Yes, that's the one. More from

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Speaker 2: Jenny Smith in a twelve past date.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zippy News Talk Zibby. It's coming up a quarter past eight. Mike, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: this is a text for you. Jenny. Jenny is an

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Speaker 2: amazing musician. She teaches me the banjo and is so

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Speaker 2: lovely and encouraging.

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Speaker 13: I know exactly who that is.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, how many people do you

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Speaker 2: teach the banjo too?

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Speaker 16: I've currently got one banjo student, but I've.

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Speaker 1: Taught a for you.

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Speaker 2: That'll be Who is it?

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Speaker 16: Paula?

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01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: So it's Paula's Paula any good.

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 16: She's doing really well with her She's making a lot

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Speaker 16: of progress.

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Speaker 13: Good.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastically again, good tonight. So you're a wonderful music

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Speaker 2: she Paula loves you. Everybody loves you, and you bought

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Speaker 2: in baking so God right. So number one on the

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Speaker 2: hot shots is mirror hit me.

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Speaker 18: I can see that you have already found a remplacement

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01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 18: for me. Is she from the city and you're shoving

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Speaker 18: her around?

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Speaker 9: Stop up?

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Speaker 22: And I even had a type, didn't think, God, mean

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01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 22: what you mean? I bet she's into Disney, doesn't like Bisky.

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01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 22: She's dressed a little nice little I don't know her.

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Speaker 9: She don't know me, but.

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Speaker 22: I think I've seen her before.

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01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 18: That brunette dressed in red looks familiar.

1422
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 22: I think of seen her.

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Speaker 18: I bet you'll think, out of all of the place,

1424
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 18: is that me meant to? And you'll act like it's

1425
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 18: brand new, and for a while it won't.

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Speaker 22: Feel the daye of him.

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Speaker 18: You said all your friends, she's so different from me,

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01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 18: booming more similar the stranger should be. They'll call her

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Speaker 18: my name, look in my.

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Speaker 22: Picture, friend and leander how she's loved me. Don't let

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Speaker 22: I don't know her, she don't know me, but I

1432
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 22: think I've seen her before.

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Speaker 18: That the brunette dressedine red looks familiar.

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Speaker 22: I think I've seen her.

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Speaker 20: Re loove me, Bob, you're just nack On't burn me, baby.

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Speaker 22: She's your idea of me dead. I couldn't Well, I

1437
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 22: don't know her and she don't know me, but I

1438
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 22: think i've seen her before.

1439
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 18: That brunet dressing bed looks familiar.

1440
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 22: I think I've seen her.

1441
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 9: Re loove you.

1442
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 22: I don't know she don't tell me, but I think

1443
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 22: I've seen her before.

1444
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 20: That burnet dressing bad looks familiar.

1445
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 22: I think I've seen her. Relove you.

1446
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,879
Speaker 4: I know I've seen her before.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, well done. Congratulations on the album Mount Tomorrow, The

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Speaker 2: Girl next Door, The Girl next Door, from which that

1449
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: is the single, because that's how it works these days,

1450
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 2: you release singles before the album come out. Now the

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01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: show you've got to show on Saturday in Auckland. I

1452
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: will stick all that on a website. You're going to

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: christch later in April and Wellington as well. So there's

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Speaker 2: a two. There's the old and there's a single. Life

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Speaker 2: seems good.

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Speaker 16: Dinner, It's amazing at the moment.

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you. Lovely to see you at last.

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Speaker 22: Yes, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Jenny Smith. It's nineteen past eight.

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Speaker 2: two things going I've told you about. You've got if you,

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Speaker 2: if you purchase you go and to win the fabulous

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Speaker 2: four thousand dollars luxury trip to to Queenstown.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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Speaker 2: co dot n z. Tasking Mike isn't my imagination, but

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01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 2: all the singing artists you have on your show seem

1488
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: to be female, Chris, it is your imagination. It is

1489
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: simply not true. I'm thinking of what was his name

1490
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: was Cory Cayman, who yeah, courty Ken. He wasn't a female,

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Speaker 2: was he?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: John Mayer, I remember Luke Colmes, I remember no females

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Speaker 2: there By the way, the campaign already and although the

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Speaker 2: campaign hasn't really begun, the election care paign of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, I can see where this is going. Things

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Speaker 2: are going to get ugly.

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Speaker 24: So this election year, we not only are asking people

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Speaker 24: obviously for their votes, but we are also reminding people

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Speaker 24: of their power, because politics belongs to those who turn up.

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Speaker 24: And we would just remind all of those renters across

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Speaker 24: Altiero on New Zealand. Your landlord is voting, your employer

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Speaker 24: is voting, my costing is voting, so you better be too.

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Speaker 2: She's got a thing for me, hasn't she, Erica, And

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Speaker 2: she's correct, though, to be fair, I am voting, and

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: I know who I'm voting for, Chloe. Now, mortgages, things

1507
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: aren't looking good. I'm afraid to tell you. The mortgages

1508
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: are going in the wrong way. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they're going to rectify. What's happening internationally is of course,

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01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: money's getting more expensive. It's not good for the country

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: because we are a fortune and the cost of ent

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Speaker 2: is going up and up and up. Hence we couldn't

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Speaker 2: hand out more money than we were going to yesterday.

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Speaker 2: One of the questions I forget to ask Nicola Willis

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Speaker 2: when she was on the program yesterday, is if things

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01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: were materially different, if you didn't inherit a broken country

1517
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 2: with a skyrocketing debt and ridiculous inflation and all the

1518
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 2: accouterments that went with it, would you have done something

1519
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: materially different in terms of helping New Zealanders. Because I

1520
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: was right, as much as it pains me to say so,

1521
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: a couple of days earlier when I said there's no

1522
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: winning on this one. For whatever you do, no one's

1523
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 2: going to be grateful, and there's going to be a

1524
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: long line of people going what about me, what about me?

1525
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: And what about me? Because that's the sort of country

1526
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: unfortunately we are. So would it have been materially different

1527
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 2: if she had the wherewithal to do it? Anyway? One

1528
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: of the artworkings of all of this is money's getting

1529
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: a bit tight around the world, and so being z

1530
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: yesterday as the latest, they're going up ten points, which

1531
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: isn't a mutt, but if you are a lot, it's

1532
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, it's something to think about one year out

1533
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: four five nine, eighteen at four seven nine, four year

1534
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: at five five nine, and five years at five seven nine.

1535
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: So you're getting longer term money's heading towards six, which,

1536
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: if you want a glass half full scenario, is not America.

1537
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: In America you're playing well in excess of six for

1538
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: thirty years. Britain's up there as well. Certainly Australia is

1539
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: not going particularly well with their inflation numbers at the moment. Bing'

1540
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: zi kiwibank four eight nine two years the best in

1541
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: the market most competitive eighteen months is asb's four to

1542
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: seven five b and z's four seven nine. Bing's in

1543
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: Westpac for longer money at five two nine for three

1544
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: years and Westpac cheapest of the four year rates at

1545
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: five three nine. Five year terms at Westpac five five

1546
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: nine and am z's six one nine. So what do

1547
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: you do at the moment day for a while there

1548
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 2: the bottom. What we do know for a factor is

1549
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: the bottom has most definitely been reached and it's on

1550
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: the way up unfortunately. So maybe you lock in. I mean,

1551
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: I'm not giving your advice to do whatever you want,

1552
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 2: but you know, at the end of the day poll

1553
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: out in Britain this morning. I can tell you about

1554
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: rod shortly. So the Welsh elections are coming up in May,

1555
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 2: early part of May. Labour and Our third. This is

1556
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: a country or a part of the United Kingdom that

1557
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 2: they've controlled with alacrity for one hundred years. They're now third.

1558
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: They're behind Plaid Cumery which is the local party of course,

1559
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 2: and Reform. We don't seem to do particularly well in Wales,

1560
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: but in certain electorates they are suggesting the Labor Party

1561
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: might in fact be fourth. Played at this point will

1562
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: be the largest party in Wales. They'll get forty three

1563
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 2: seats they think, out of the ninety six in the

1564
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: Welsh Parliament. That's a minority. But the Plaid Comeries, the

1565
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: Plaid coomeryes, they go, we're going to go minority. Very Crusipkins,

1566
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: isn't it. We're going to go minority. We could do

1567
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: business with the Greens, but we may or may not.

1568
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: But if we can't do business with the Greens, we're

1569
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 2: going to run Wales by ourselves as a minority. So

1570
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: anyway that in other matters with Roden, just a couple

1571
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: of moments here are news talks.

1572
01:14:54,240 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: They've been with the new systems, opinionated, informed, unapologetic, the

1573
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: mic asking, breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, life your way,

1574
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: news talks, head.

1575
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: Be Who do I blame im? Just trying to work

1576
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: out who I blame for this? So Imeraken Judge, we

1577
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: covered it quite substantially at the time, number of weeks ago,

1578
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: fundly enough, just yesterday afternoon, I was thinking, whatever happened

1579
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: to this case? So the Amerakan judge, she's a Northern

1580
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: club Winston Peters. She pops ahead and she yellow dress.

1581
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeow dress, dont forget yellow dress, yellow dress, fetching, look beautiful.

1582
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 2: That was the New Zealand first super important, very very good,

1583
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: beautiful dress. She came into the room radiant, fabulous. That

1584
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 2: came from the New Zealand first Witness, not Casey Costello,

1585
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: but the other mind of the New Zealand first minder.

1586
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: She may or may not have yelled at Winston Peter's.

1587
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 2: She may or may not have recognized Winston Peters. She

1588
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 2: may or may not have had two glasses of champagne.

1589
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: Doctor was a celebrity doctor. There was a celebratory doctor

1590
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: who was her partner in the room. Next door there

1591
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: was the KC clearly several sheets to the wind who

1592
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: was filmed later going don't you come to host me

1593
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 2: because I'll sue you.

1594
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 4: This is late last season. It is on the judge.

1595
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: Anyway, we come to the bill this morning, which hasn't

1596
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 2: quite been settled, but it's sitting at about a million

1597
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: dollars in counting. So let me come back to who

1598
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: I blame for this in a moment.

1599
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 9: Twenty two to nine International correspondence with ins Inn Eye

1600
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,520
Speaker 9: Insurance Peace of Mind for New Zealand.

1601
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 2: Business Willis and Britain. Roderick, good morning, Good morning.

1602
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 11: I have to say this to you first. It was

1603
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 11: difficult for me to get in touch with you because

1604
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 11: my phone has decided to update itself and won't accept

1605
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 11: any incoming calls. Listen, listen, this is what will happen

1606
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 11: with AI. It's one take over the world. It'll just

1607
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 11: tell you to get stuffed. It does what it wants

1608
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 11: to do.

1609
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: That's how it works. Well, welcome to the on Moby

1610
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 2: World technology. Hey, what is what is Reeb's going to do?

1611
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: By?

1612
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: Why have we've got some relief in the last couple

1613
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: of days working for families as a system we have.

1614
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: If you're a low income owner with a couple of kids,

1615
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: you get fifty dollars a week for the next year

1616
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: until ninety one pittrel goes below three dollars a liter

1617
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: for four weeks in a row. So that's what we've done.

1618
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 22: What are you doing.

1619
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 11: If you're earning anything, you're stuffed. Basically, this is a

1620
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 11: bailout of benefits claimants only, and that is the thing.

1621
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 11: And now it kind of makes sense, which is a

1622
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 11: benefit claimants are the least renewitity people in the country.

1623
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 11: But it just exascerbates that huge problem that labor has,

1624
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 11: which is that benefits claimants get the NOD and the

1625
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 11: people who do the right thing and work hard and

1626
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 11: go out every day and stop it cuts out for

1627
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 11: twenty eight grand a year don't get any thing, and

1628
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 11: that will be a huge problem for them.

1629
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 2: Is part of it, and it was part of it

1630
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: for us. Is they're constrained by the fact they owe

1631
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: so much money they can't afford to Basically, there's no dough.

1632
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 11: There's no dough. But if there is, or at least

1633
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 11: very little dough, and that which they put aside, you

1634
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 11: might think that they would think of the people who

1635
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 11: are trying to do the right thing and who go

1636
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 11: out to work to provide for their families and they'll

1637
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 11: get nothing. And it's just this stark divide we have

1638
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 11: in Britain at the moment between this massive and growing

1639
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 11: welfare bill of people who are either claiming depression or

1640
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 11: anxiety or ADHD and are living off the state and

1641
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 11: getting much more than people who are in entry level

1642
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 11: jobs in you know, fairly horrible warehouse jobs, and the

1643
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 11: cold calling and so it is a massive problem. I

1644
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 11: don't think anyone's really grasped how big it is yet.

1645
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: Not entry level, But what are the doctors going on

1646
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 2: strike for more money? I'm assuming Yeah, that's right.

1647
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, Normaley. It's another problem which the kear Starmer wouldn't

1648
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,480
Speaker 11: have wanted to have, given that he's got wet Streeting

1649
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 11: as you know, a perfect competent health secretary and who

1650
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 11: we thought had one this battle over the doctors. They're

1651
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 11: going on strike again next month April the seventh, just

1652
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 11: after Easter. They have risen. You know, they're going to

1653
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 11: be out for six days and it will cause it

1654
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 11: will it's not the worst time of the year to

1655
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 11: go on strike. It's it's it's probably not going to

1656
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 11: cripple the country, but it's just another indication that this

1657
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 11: government isn't succeeding in doing even what it's said it

1658
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 11: would do easily within the first three months of taking office.

1659
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 2: I gave just before the news, I gave out a poll.

1660
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: There's a Welsh poll out you go or not, you guys,

1661
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 2: but the Welsh advising in May and labor accounting. Third,

1662
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 2: if the election nationally wasn't so far away, would the

1663
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: government be in meltdown given the current standing and the

1664
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: polls and their general predicament.

1665
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 11: Kind of, But it's slightly more complex than that because

1666
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 11: in a general election there would be all these people

1667
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 11: who wish to vote for Nigel Faraj in the Reform

1668
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 11: UK Party and then matched against that, and it's difficult

1669
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 11: to know how it would happen. In a general election.

1670
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 11: There would be an enormous convocation of people who would

1671
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 11: vote for anyone, even me Mike against Nauta Farage. And

1672
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 11: it's the anti Farage vote which is beginning to determine

1673
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 11: what will happen at the next election. But no mistake

1674
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 11: about it. The next the council elections in May reform

1675
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 11: will make loads and loads of gains, so I think

1676
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 11: were the Greens. Incidentally, another poll she may not have seen,

1677
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 11: which is at thirty eight percent of Green supporters feel

1678
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 11: a sympathy for the Aya Toller Okay.

1679
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: In the early hours of this morning when I arrived

1680
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: about three o'clock, I was watching the archbishop being I

1681
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,879
Speaker 2: had to look up the word is an archbishop anointed

1682
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: or appointed and the answers appointed. So she was getting appointed.

1683
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: Yet she was she is she going to be transformers

1684
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 2: that just changed the face of the church.

1685
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,879
Speaker 11: Not in a million years. She is an exact despite

1686
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 11: being of a different gender for the first time in

1687
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 11: what what is it, a thousand years? She is exactly

1688
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 11: the same as the people have come before. Someone whose

1689
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 11: first comment was to say, I've got to stamp out

1690
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 11: sexism in the church. Now, your job, Sarah Molalley, who

1691
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 11: is the new archbishop, is to try to inculcate the

1692
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 11: values of Jesus Christ a must your congregation' that's your job.

1693
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 11: It's not to stamp out sexism or to make sure

1694
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 11: that transgender people have equal right. It's to do that.

1695
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 11: And so it's more of the same middle class left

1696
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 11: dish and pretty much as tame. Actually this is a

1697
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 11: new director general of the BBS ah yes, the same day.

1698
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 11: This is Matt written from Google who's also left Dish

1699
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 11: and I just think our institutions are lagging way behind

1700
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 11: where the political parties are at at the moment, because

1701
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 11: even Labours dropped all this stuff.

1702
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: Good to see you, mate, good luck with the pine

1703
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: up dight and we'll catch up with you on Tuesday. Yeah,

1704
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: Met Britain, Rod Little, Met Britain's been confirmed. Are they've

1705
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: risched two men by the way, they think there's a third.

1706
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: There was a third on the CCTV. This is the

1707
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: Jewish ambulance attack that we were talking with Rod about

1708
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. So they've got two men overnight. One's forty seven,

1709
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: gotam in Northwest London. One's forty five Godom and Central London.

1710
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: Both are British nationals. They're aware of a third so

1711
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: they're trying to track him down in a sort of

1712
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: the interest of this country. As I was still Ryan

1713
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: earlier on the Small they voted the other day in

1714
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: Britain not to ban kids from social media. So there's

1715
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 2: a thing moving started in Australia, gone to den Mark, France, etc.

1716
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: We're looking at it. In Britain they decided not to

1717
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 2: do it. But what they are doing and it will

1718
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: runs alongside government consultation. It will be led by the government.

1719
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 2: Three hundred teams involved will have their social apps disabled

1720
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: entirely or blocked overnight or capped to one hour's use,

1721
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: alongside a bunch of teams who will just carry on

1722
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: as per normal. So this is a pilot. At the

1723
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: end of the pilot, the children and the parents will

1724
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: be spoken to get some feedback that runs until the

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Speaker 2: end of May, and they will make a decision from there.

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Speaker 2: So some are acting, some are doing a pilot. A

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Speaker 2: forty five.

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Speaker 2: B Yes, Emma Aiken. So we've got a million dollars

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Speaker 2: worth of legal bills at this particular point in time,

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Speaker 2: and we've got no What I was thinking earlier on

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Speaker 2: was to myself quietly as I prepared myself for the

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Speaker 2: day in my on suite, was if I was listening

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Speaker 2: to this I was on the panel, I will have

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Speaker 2: made up my mind by the end of it. Like

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Speaker 2: I board it everybody, I'm thinking what am I going

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Speaker 2: to do with this? And I'm assuming this would be

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Speaker 2: relatively quick. We'd get together with the other panel members

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Speaker 2: and I go, well, I heard this, and therefore as

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Speaker 2: a result of that, I think this, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: And they'll do it and then we'd massage something together

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Speaker 2: and come out with a decision. Anyway, that hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 2: So one million dollars by the Ministry of Justice and

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Speaker 2: Crown Law on the Judicial Conduct Panel as of mid

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Speaker 2: March five hundred and four thousand, but over five hundred

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Speaker 2: and four thousand of that. Three hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 2: thousand went on the judges' legal costs, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twelve thousand on the panel members fees, travel, accommodation and

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Speaker 2: it support. Under Section twenty seven Brackets two of the

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Speaker 2: Judicial Conduct Commissioner and Judicial Conduct Panel Act of two

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Speaker 2: thousand and four, reasonable costs of representation in respect of

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01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: the inquiry must be met by the Office of the Commissioner.

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01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: So in the Good Judge's case, three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: two thousand dollars Crown Law Senior Crown Council as funding

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Speaker 2: the professional fees and disbursements of the special Council, and

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Speaker 2: the council assisting and the research assistance. We've got to bill.

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Speaker 2: There are four hundred and twelve thousand dollars or four

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand dollars traveling accommodation currently sitting at

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Speaker 2: eleven and a bit thousand dollars. You add all that together,

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Speaker 2: you've got a million dollars in counting. So I've decided

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Speaker 2: I'm blaming New Zealand first because what she did, Judge Akin,

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01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: is unbecoming. It's certainly not a sackable offense. In my

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Speaker 2: humble opinion, It's something she shouldn't have done, and she

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Speaker 2: should have kept her sticky beak out of it and

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Speaker 2: simply carried on to her function. Equally, if I was

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Speaker 2: in the room with New Zealand first, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: elevated it as it was to Judith Collins, who then

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Speaker 2: elevated it to the people, who then elevated it to

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Speaker 2: the panel. Hence we're a million dollars down the drain

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Speaker 2: for what really I mean, If what I'm right, if

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Speaker 2: I'm right in saying that she's going to not get sacked,

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Speaker 2: which I don't think she will or should, then what

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Speaker 2: have we achieved he said, she said, never the twain

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01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 2: shall meet. She wore a nice yellow dress. There was

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Speaker 2: a pissed case KC. Her husband's a celebrity doctor. And

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Speaker 2: we were moderately entertained on this program for about three

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Speaker 2: or four days.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, so quite a lot of content, great content. I mean,

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Speaker 23: if we're charging that out at at an hourly rate.

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Speaker 2: How how many days was I entertained for? It's three

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Speaker 2: or four? Wasn't it was at least four?

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Speaker 4: Well, went over a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but but I didn't get interested into

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Speaker 2: the latter part. So let's let's say six or seven days.

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Speaker 2: I saw one hundred thousand dollars a day, ebbs easily

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Speaker 2: in front of how many people listen to the show, five, six,

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Speaker 2: seven hundred thousand. It's like a bucket person.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you think about what your hourly raiders alone.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 4: Am I onto it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But I'm quality? I mean, was that quality? It

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Speaker 2: was moderately entertained? Anyway, we'll see. Well, all I want

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Speaker 2: now is for them to make a decision, and then

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Speaker 2: the next question is can it be appealed? Give me

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Speaker 2: that answer. Go to the research department, give me that answer.

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Speaker 2: Nine minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Research department fail. They can't get an answer. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why. How does ask Grock groc can if if

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Speaker 2: Judge Akin loses her case, can she appeal? Research? The

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Speaker 2: jobs produce? This job has never been easier since Ai

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Speaker 2: R I've never been easier. If Judge Akin loses, can

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Speaker 2: she appeal? Simple question? Is it ironic or is it

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Speaker 2: just me that while we all fixate on the price

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Speaker 2: of petrol and the Middle East and the strait of

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Speaker 2: her moves, we've completely forgotten about Gaza. Of course, by

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Speaker 2: the way, Iran's going to end up the same as Gaza.

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Speaker 2: They're going to declare a ses fire. Whether or not

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Speaker 2: that actually happens or not, everyone moves on right. Am

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Speaker 2: I right about Gaza? Or am I right about Garza?

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Speaker 2: No one knows what's going on, and Gaza no one

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Speaker 2: cares the clear far that was the end of that.

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Speaker 2: Same will happen with Iran. And yet overnight there were

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Speaker 2: nine hundred and forty eight drone attacks on Ukraine by Russia,

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Speaker 2: and that was the biggest attack period in five years

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Speaker 2: of war and it barely got mentioned five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, through a judicial review. You see it when that

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Speaker 2: hut Grok. If Judge Akin loses the case, Yes, throw

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Speaker 2: a judicial review.

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Speaker 2: This is speaking of lawyers. Mike Lenia is the lawyer

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Speaker 2: for the woman in this mesa case in LA Today

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Speaker 2: she's won three million dollars. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 7: It's a very great importance to a generation of people

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Speaker 7: who have been affected. We've had a number of family

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Speaker 7: members who have been so diligent to be here to

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Speaker 7: lend moral support, prayer support, emotional support during this trial.

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Speaker 7: There are so many families who've been tragically hurt through

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Speaker 7: the addition of social media. Regardless of whether the children

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Speaker 7: are getting sent pornographic pictures, regardless of whether they're being sexploitated,

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Speaker 7: regardless of those types of issues, just because of the

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Speaker 7: features alone that drive addiction, these companies can be held accountable.

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Speaker 4: That's a huge message.

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Speaker 2: Are you sexploitated? It's a good use of the word

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Speaker 2: if it is a word, fifteen hundred others are looking

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Speaker 2: to file suit now, so this is an avalanche, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Meta does about it. The others settled,

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Speaker 2: and you can see now why they settled. Now, obviously

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01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: you could argue they're as guilty as Meta as in

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Speaker 2: this particular case. But nevertheless they stayed out of court.

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Speaker 2: As I said earlier on, I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: high hurdle that they deliberately set out to make an algorithm,

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01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: but you know, three millions three million, and a win's

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Speaker 2: a win, and they've been found liable, and there it is.

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Speaker 2: They will appeal on assuming like everything else, they'll appeal

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Speaker 2: their appeal in New Mexico, the second part of the

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Speaker 2: New Mexico case, by the way, so they're appealing that,

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Speaker 2: and they'll appeal this. I'm assuming, but they've got made

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Speaker 2: of trouble. Back tomorrow morning from six o'clock on the

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