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Speaker 1: We're moving on and into the huddle we go. And

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Speaker 1: in the hudder we have Tris Chesson from Sharson, Willis

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Speaker 1: p R and Josie PEGANI, the CEO of child Fun.

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Speaker 2: Hello people, Andrew, Happy New Year?

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Speaker 3: What about that?

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Speaker 1: James?

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Speaker 4: I think it's too late to say that trash, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: Is It almost too late?

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Speaker 2: No first show first, when you first see people, I

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Speaker 2: go through to the end of January. I think it's fine.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I only packed down my Christmas tree

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Speaker 1: two days ago because I've been on holidays, you know.

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Speaker 1: So frankly, the New Year hasn't really happened for me.

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Speaker 1: That James Meager fellow Josie PEGANI, he seems pretty good.

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Speaker 4: He's pretty impressive, isn't he. First time MP, first term MP.

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Speaker 4: And look, if anyone can make this ghost Chips ministerial

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Speaker 4: portfolio into something that means something, it's probably him.

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Speaker 1: I do think the problem why do you say it's

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Speaker 1: a ghost chip portfolio?

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Speaker 4: Because I'll tell you why, Andrew, Because when in the

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Speaker 4: last government we had a minister for Auckland and the

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Speaker 4: problem with these kind of slightly vanity minister portfolios is

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Speaker 4: that they sound great but they've got no leavers to pull,

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Speaker 4: they've got no ministry, so they can't actually do much

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Speaker 4: and all they can do is kind of represent Auckland

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Speaker 4: or represent the South Island. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: a it's a portfolio that means much other than that.

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Speaker 4: You know, someone like James Meagher if he can make

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Speaker 4: something of it, if he can make something of promoting

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Speaker 4: the South Island, he will, But it's a ghost chips portfolio.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with that, Trish?

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Speaker 2: I do agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Actually.

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Speaker 2: I think if the job is being done by the

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Speaker 2: senior ministers in the key portfolios, that means it's a

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Speaker 2: job that's being done for New Zealanders in the places

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Speaker 2: they care about, like can I get an operation? Am

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Speaker 2: I safe? Is the economy growing regardless of whether you're

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Speaker 2: in the South Island or the North Island. And it

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Speaker 2: seems odd to me that you would have a minister

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Speaker 2: for the South Island. There's no minister for the North Island.

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Speaker 2: The Minister for Auckland issues was done away with, and

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Speaker 2: as an Auckland I agree. I sense it's about actually

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Speaker 2: showing the South Island some love and that there is

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Speaker 2: some focus there. I don't know that it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a huge vote winner because I think you know,

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Speaker 2: as you've seen with Nationals reshuffle that's been signaled this year,

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Speaker 2: it is all about the economy and it's all about growth,

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Speaker 2: and that's not actually about the government's books. That's about

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Speaker 2: the government getting out of the way of New Zealand

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Speaker 2: business and get help, you know, making sure they can

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Speaker 2: get cranking.

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Speaker 1: And Josie, the reshuffle is all about Sybby and Brown.

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Speaker 1: He's the new mister fix it. He's the new Stephen Joyce.

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Speaker 1: He's the new let's give a guy a job and

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Speaker 1: even if it's a bad one, he's going to go. Yep,

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Speaker 1: I'm up for it and I'm ready to go. But

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Speaker 1: is this a sign that they don't have anybody else

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Speaker 1: in their cabinet, in their in their caucus.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you make a good point because I think they

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Speaker 4: came into government with quite a small caucus, you know

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Speaker 4: that is in opposition, it was a small caucus and

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Speaker 4: they've come into government with one. So they do lack

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Speaker 4: a bit of talent in that in the in the

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Speaker 4: back seats there and Simeon Brown is the kind of

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Speaker 4: mix it, mister fix it guy there. I mean, he's

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Speaker 4: certainly made some inroads and reframing local government, transport, energy,

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Speaker 4: and he's got a reputation for kind of holding holding

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Speaker 4: government government departments accountable, making it really clear what his

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Speaker 4: expectations are. He's quite tough, so I think he's a

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Speaker 4: good choice for health. And certainly the drums were out

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Speaker 4: for Shane Retty. A nice guy, but not wrong diagnosis.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's a doctor, but he just wasn't quite

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Speaker 4: sort of getting his teeth into the right problem for health.

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Speaker 4: And I think this is a problem what Simeon is

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Speaker 4: going to have to face here in the health portfolio.

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Speaker 4: We're all blim and terrified of something happening to us

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Speaker 4: or our families because can't see a GP, can't get

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Speaker 4: an appointment. I've got an appointment for an MRI. I've

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Speaker 4: got to wait about a year, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just crazy at the moment. So I think people

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Speaker 4: are really terrified of this. And it can't just be

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Speaker 4: chuck more money at it, and neither can it be

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Speaker 4: cut spending and just rearrange the dack chairs and you know,

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Speaker 4: cut spending in the health putment. It just got to

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Speaker 4: be structural change and you've got to find a way

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. My neighbor actually just found out she

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Speaker 1: has blood cancer and there's no way that she's getting

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Speaker 1: anywhere near any treatment or any on cologies for six months,

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Speaker 1: and she's going what was going to happen in that

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Speaker 1: six months? That is the primal fear that mister Brown

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Speaker 1: is going to have to counter. It is eleven to six.

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Speaker 1: This is the huddle on news talks heb.

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Speaker 3: Fat too us rutily suggestion of the huddle with.

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Speaker 1: Tris Sheerson and Josey PEGANI. And it's inauguration day tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So I actually had a fellow saying, Josie no sor Trisian,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Tristan now, a fellow on

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Speaker 1: the radio just before saying, this will be the most

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Speaker 1: powerful United States president ever because he owns the House,

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Speaker 1: he owns the Senate, he's got the vote, and he's

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Speaker 1: also got all of corporate America falling at their feet.

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Speaker 1: And of course the Supreme Court says you can't actually

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Speaker 1: sort of prosecute him. So do you agree with that?

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Speaker 2: Well, someone much smarter than me over the weekend, the

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Speaker 2: analogy that this is like when when Caesar took Rome

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Speaker 2: effectively for all of those reasons that you've said, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, he can't be he can't be prosecuted. He

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Speaker 2: will have incredible power over everything. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: one of the great spectacles this week will be all

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Speaker 2: of the all of the tech bros bending the knee

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Speaker 2: to Trump. You know, Corporate America throwing you know, it's

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Speaker 2: sort of like terrible, terrible mental image, but you know

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Speaker 2: they'll be sort of throwing undies and money at him

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Speaker 2: is as fast as they can and and it just

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Speaker 2: I think from here it's a it's a hold on

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Speaker 2: to your hats moment. There has also been talk that

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to sign something like one hundred executive

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Speaker 2: orders in the first twenty four hours of office. So

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Speaker 2: you know what an absolute lucky dip that's going to be.

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Speaker 4: And I love it, Andrew, I mean talking about the

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Speaker 4: tech bros, I mean, they really have been sucking up,

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Speaker 4: haven't they? To Trump? At Mara Lago and someone described

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Speaker 4: Elon Muskers as channeling a kind of top gun meets

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Speaker 4: goldfinger vibe, which, when you think about it, that's exactly

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Speaker 4: what he looks like. And even like Mark Zuckerberg, you

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Speaker 4: know who seemed like this kind of serial killer look

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Speaker 4: that he had his dead fish eyes, you know, Julius

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Speaker 4: Caesar haircut, and now he's become the simpering baggy T shirted,

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Speaker 4: gold chain wearing kind of white wrapper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people have been watching too many movies. But yes,

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Speaker 1: I agree. It's going to be very cinematic at six

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Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow and we'll have full courage. Thank you so much,

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