1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: BARRISO senior political correspondence with US. Now, go on, Barris, 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: just get it out of your system. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Heather, Yeah, I was really interested in your editorial, very 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: good on Donald Trump and Carmela Harris and their first 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: debate the eating cats and dogs. I mean, what he 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: was doing was he was extrapolating that here was one 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: case and you mentioned that a cat Hiatian had taken 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: a cat and allegedly eaten it. One case, but that 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: to be the whole of the eleven million dollars in 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: immigrants that are there illegally in the United States. And 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: the other one is the baby is being executed. Now, 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: I've had a lot of email today on this, and 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: it's true that some babies do survive after an abortion, thankfully, 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: and unfortunately some die. But those that do survive there 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: is an attempt at that stage to keep them alive. 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: But abortions are dreadful in any situation, and so, but 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: they're not being executed as Donald Trump would have us believe. 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: So it's the way he presents it, and it's the 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: way his followers suck it up and say. 20 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: What are you taking issue with? Are you taking issue 21 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: with how he phrased language, or the very fact that 22 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: he claims that this is real. 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Well, no, what what he What he leaves the impression 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: of everyone one with is that, for example, on abortion, 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: that babies are being executed, you know, ad infinitum around 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: the United States, which is patently wrong. The other thing 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: is that eating cats and dogs. That's just crap. I mean, 28 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 2: he's seen one hang on, he's seen one television item, 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: and you know, he's extrapolated from that that that's going 30 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: on all over the country with these bids. 31 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: I didn't say it was. 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: No, but what I'm saying is that's what he's trying 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: to the impression. 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Well, what I was saying was happening was that there 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: is just enough evidence on the Internet to allow these 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: people who support him, some of them, to believe that 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: it really was happening. 38 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: They believe it on one case, you know, the. 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Totally misguarded Well okay, Barry, thank you, thank you for clarifying. 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: We didn't realize you didn't like Donald Trump, but now 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: we do. Okay, wonderful, Manky. What about Darlena, So she's 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: basically stitching together a story which I actually am quite 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: fascinated by that the Greens actually wanted to fire her 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: from the get go. They were never going to give 45 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: her a chance. 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: She says, well, her appropriately named lawyer, Sharon Green representing 47 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: her in court today, and this is the case that 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: prevented the Greens from meeting to decide whether to use 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: the walker jumping legislation. Look, it was interesting the argument 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: that you've put up Foratana being held accountable for her 51 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: husband's actions as a very dangerous path to head down, 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: because you know, no politician can be held for the 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: actions of their family members. But that's presupposing that this 54 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: report that was carried out on Darlene Tarma exonerated her 55 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: from any involvement in the exploitation of immigrants. So what 56 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: she would argue, Sharon Green, is that basically Chloe Swarbrick 57 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: and Madam and Davidson was essentially playing to the media 58 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: and they were providing the answers that they believed that 59 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: the media should have. And to that end, it was 60 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: really interesting in Parliament this afternoon. It was that Green's 61 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: case in court today that saw Chloe Swarbrick coming off 62 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: second best. When she was questioning our old mate Winston Peters, 63 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: who's acting for the Prime Minister today in Parliament, Swarbrick 64 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: was talking about the Treaty Principal's Bill, Peter's talked about 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: the Green's court case here they are. 66 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: Can the Prime Minister think of anything that is a 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: bigger waste of the public's time than allowing a six 68 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: month long select committee process on a divisive so called 69 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: Treaty Principles bill when the majority of government has already 70 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: committed to opposing that very bill. 71 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: I can think of all sorts of court cases which 72 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: are a grosser waste of the public's time and money, 73 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 4: and where the machi has been done when the person 74 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: not in here, And of course the court case is 75 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 4: now involving taxpayers paying for the court proceedings as we speak. 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: And that number from the Green Party would know all 77 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: about that case, wouldn't she. 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: Now we're talking about Trump earlier, hasn't Wiston got a 79 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: great way of turning the situation around to see his 80 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: own purpose. 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: He's done a good job. He's done a good little 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu on her. 83 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: There. 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this regulation ministry from David Sebells proving to be 85 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: quite costly, isn't it? 86 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: Well? It is four hundred thousand dollars in consultants. It's 87 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: replacing the old Productivity Commission, so they're producing at a 88 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: lot of money for consultants there is, but also the 89 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: ninety people that are thought to be going to be 90 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: end up being employed by them as other public servants 91 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: being laid off. Are they getting an average of one 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty k a year? So let's hope that 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: this regulation Commission undoes a lot of the red tape 94 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: that David Seymour says it'll do once it's set up 95 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: and running. 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Chris has suggested we should pre book Saint John and 97 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: for a be later for you for election day. How 98 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: do you feel about you ready for that? 99 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: Very good, Thank you very much, Chris. 101 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: If Trug comes in, if Trump comes in, your checking out. 102 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: They got an email from him today and not a 103 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: particularly pleasant one either. 104 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: Thanks Verry so for senior political correspondens. 105 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 106 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio.