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Speaker 1: biggest sports issues on and afterfield. It's all on Wee

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Speaker 1: Joe's Ford with Jason Vane on your home of Sport,

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Speaker 2: At Counting. Good afternoon and welcome into the Sunday edition

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Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks head Bat June thirty

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Speaker 2: July tomorrow, goodness May. Happy birthday, Mike Tyson, Happy birthday

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Speaker 2: twenty three time Olympic medallist swimmer Michael Phelps. I'm Jason

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Speaker 2: Pinehow producer Mark Kelly. Hope you've enjoyed your long weekend.

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Speaker 2: They're still a bit to squeeze into it or squeeze

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Speaker 2: out of it. Perhaps we're here until three talking some

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Speaker 2: sport with you. It would appear that rumors of the

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Speaker 2: Warrior's imminent demise were a little premature. He'll go might the.

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Speaker 3: In the thinking very soon as we see Martin kicking.

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Speaker 4: For what's understands who tesn't up the field goal?

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Speaker 5: Don't for the try.

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Speaker 2: I've just got four on the string heads and eck

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Speaker 2: to mighty Martin. He's so effective of his kicking game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah to mighty Martin, what a game from him. A

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Speaker 2: thirty two to sixteen win for the Warriors over the

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Speaker 2: Broncos last night, bouncing back from the horrendous showing on

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Speaker 2: the Gold Coast last weekend. Going to unpack that for

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Speaker 2: you very shortly with Foundation Warrior, longtime Super League player

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Speaker 2: and coach someone and Kiwi international will he poaching on

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Speaker 2: the show. The postmatch thoughts this hour too of Andrew

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Speaker 2: your calls, Warriors fans on how important this was, how

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Speaker 2: impressed you were, and I have a couple of selection

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Speaker 2: questions for you as well. In fact, I've got one

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Speaker 2: selection question in particular for you to ponder other matters around. Today,

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Speaker 2: our top triathlete Hayden Wilde is with us after one.

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Speaker 2: He is completing his preparations for the upcoming Olympics Bronze

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Speaker 2: and Tokyo. Of course last time out. He's targeting a

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Speaker 2: highest step this time. And speaking of the Games, our

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Speaker 2: Road to Powis feature continues after two o'clock today. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's best ever Olympic shooting result came in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: at Rio when Natalie Rooney won silver in the trap.

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Speaker 2: She'll join us to reminisce a bit about that after

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Speaker 2: two o'clock. The All White Surrens of the OFC Nations

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Speaker 2: Cup Final. This is the Oceania Nations Championship. They'll play

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Speaker 2: hosts Vanowatu and Port Villa this afternoon at four or

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Speaker 2: White striker Ben Wayne with us ahead of that James

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Speaker 2: mcconey and this regular slot around one forty five in

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Speaker 2: our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock, who normally joins us on

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Speaker 2: Saturday's got bumped yesterday for the All Blacks coach, so

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he won't mind. In fact, he's told me

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Speaker 2: five hours later than normal in the two to three

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Speaker 2: sporting matters from across the Tasman just on yesterday, thoroughly

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Speaker 2: enjoyable being out there at endz cis a terrific hour

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Speaker 2: spent with Scott Robertson. If you missed the chat, it's

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Speaker 2: really interesting chat with the All Blacks head coach yesterday.

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Speaker 2: coming up ten Bass.

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Speaker 1: Mid day week all weekends for us.

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Speaker 2: What a difference a week makes from the depths of

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Speaker 2: despair last weekend one of the worst defeats in Warrior's history.

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Speaker 2: They responded last night with well, you have to say,

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Speaker 2: what was one of their best performances of the year.

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Speaker 2: That's going to.

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Speaker 6: Get it done here at Mount Smart's Stadium, man Or

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Speaker 6: Warriors and.

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Speaker 7: Bounce back and fight fashion after Bahia show on the

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Speaker 7: Gold Coast take the two.

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Speaker 6: Points here against the Prisbane Broncos thirty two.

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Speaker 2: To sixteen, and they led from start to finish, produce

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Speaker 2: some sparkling tries and some tough defense to claim a

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Speaker 2: League player and coach, Foundation Warriors player, Sky Sports analyst

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Speaker 2: and very keen rugby league observer Willie po Ching is

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Speaker 2: with us on Weekend Sport. Willy, hindsight's a wonderful thing,

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Speaker 2: I know, But did you expect the bounce back you

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Speaker 8: Not to that degree. A positive response was needed, There's

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Speaker 2: What placed doubt in your mind that they would be

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Speaker 2: able to bounce Was it the possible ongoing effect of

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Speaker 8: That was the big thing for me. How deep the

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Speaker 8: the loss that was inflicted upon them. But to see

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Speaker 8: that they've put that aside and just gone about moving

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Speaker 8: on quickly and focus on last night's game was outstanding

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Speaker 8: for them. The Broncos were missing a couple of players,

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Speaker 8: but their effort, their energy and how they played the

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Speaker 2: What sort of conversations do you think happened in the camp,

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Speaker 2: particularly at the front end of the week, will you've played,

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Speaker 2: you've been a coach? What of the conversations would have

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Speaker 8: Probably mending emotions. There would have been some mental scarring

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Speaker 8: that was across the board. That was the hard thing

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Speaker 8: So I was just about trying to get everyone confident again,

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Speaker 8: would have been getting the half that appearance as soon

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Speaker 8: I think those were those would have been the biggest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got written down here, Chanelle, Harris Tavita and

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Speaker 2: What happens now when Sean Johnson comes back. There's there's

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Speaker 8: But there isn't for mine. They're playing well, they're working

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Speaker 8: they're winning games when they're together. So it's tough. It's tough,

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Speaker 2: Apart from six and seven, Who else impressed you or

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Speaker 8: Well, I really liked Dylan Walker in the middle, and

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Speaker 8: lot more energy. They played with a lot more pace

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Speaker 8: you know. But throughout their eighty minute performance was fantastic. Defensively,

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Speaker 2: And truly, you sat on the Sky broadcast last weekend,

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Speaker 2: you did worry about the possible ongoing effects of that

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Speaker 2: about what can go wrong if they're not fully focused.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And you've got to fall back on it every

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Speaker 8: now and again just as a reminder, and Kimi salves

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Speaker 8: and it's important that that sits there at some place.

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Speaker 8: You don't let it hurt you too much. You've got

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Speaker 8: to move on. But the way that they've moved on now,

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Speaker 8: and everyone's back and playing the way that they know

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Speaker 2: I guess when a team suffers a defeat like that,

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Speaker 2: players who got you know, who didn't play well last

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Speaker 2: We can ask them to turn around and put it right,

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Speaker 2: and that's the approach Andrew Webster talk minimal changes. Do

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Speaker 2: you still expect those some of the youngsters at his

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Speaker 8: I think so. I think so, and they've learnt it.

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Speaker 8: and injuries will dictate some of that too, which is

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Speaker 8: the case in the half backs. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 8: I think that the future of the side. I think

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Speaker 8: they're pushing the older and more experienced guys.

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Speaker 2: You reckon the Worries are a top eight side.

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Speaker 8: I think they are on their day. On the day,

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Speaker 8: they very much are the top eight side. They just

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Speaker 8: haven't been able to string enough of those days together.

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Speaker 8: And if they can do that in this back half

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Speaker 8: when they get in there, they'll be very dangerous if

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Speaker 8: they can continue playing like they did last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the tail of the tape, isn't it. Seven wins,

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Speaker 2: eight defeats in that drawer, of course, that they also

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Speaker 2: had outside the top eight, but only by a point

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Speaker 2: as things stand right now. I mean, it just seems

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Speaker 2: like it just seems tantalizingly close. For he just string

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's eventual losing the habit. Winning is a habit.

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Speaker 8: As they can get the right habit going, confidence and

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Speaker 8: everything else that clicks them to gear, who knows what

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Speaker 8: sort of run they could go on, very similar to

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Speaker 8: what they did last year.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, well, it's a much brighter Sunday today than it

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Speaker 2: was last Sunday. Trying to pick over the bones, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to religate it, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen anything like that from from the from

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Speaker 8: No, that's what hurt, yeah, Verding, and they were hurting

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Speaker 8: for the players, they were hurting for the coaching staff.

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Speaker 8: And I'm so happy that they got a sold out

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Speaker 8: crowd were really happy and they got to enjoy a

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Speaker 8: fantastic performance and a win.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Willie. WILLI poaching with his analysis of last night.

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Speaker 2: I know you'll have some to your chance to react now.

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Speaker 2: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It wasn't a must win,

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Speaker 2: Let's get straight to the lines, can I Matt?

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Speaker 4: Very good?

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Speaker 8: Matt?

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Speaker 2: What did you make of it?

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Speaker 5: Look, I think it was a good performance, but I

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Speaker 2: No, you're dead right. Look at yeah, I mean paynehasse

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Speaker 10: Well you wonder what would have happened off that. Look,

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Speaker 10: I would think it's not too far away from coming back.

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Speaker 10: So did Sean Johnson have been a player with Luke

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they played what three or four games at the

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Speaker 10: And I tweak you're looking at Andrew that he's very little.

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Speaker 9: That you haven't seen the.

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Speaker 2: what do you do you like Chanelle Harris to Veta

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Speaker 10: I like him in the fourteen Jumper. I think he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good, cool.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a really really good point.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, I got a couple of other calls to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Harris Devita, he's been been part of the interchange

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Speaker 2: I just thought he was good in the six didn't

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Speaker 2: Warriors have won. They did it against the Dolphins, they

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Speaker 2: are you, Chris, mate, nice to chat? Nice to chat

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Speaker 6: I think the Elephants rumors because I've watched a few

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Speaker 6: just because the superstar is available, it doesn't mean you

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Speaker 2: Do you think it might just be coincidence to a degree, Chris.

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Speaker 6: No, because if you look at the games that the

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Speaker 6: I'm not a professor in rugby league, but from what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what you can do, Chriss, you can. You

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Speaker 2: what are the results? And I think I think you're

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're right. When they beat the Panthers, it

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Speaker 2: When they beat the Cowboys, it was Martin. Last night,

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Speaker 2: When players like that are not there, then professional sports

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Speaker 2: then there is a decision to be made here twelve

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Speaker 2: NB plean you chat on the Warriors just on Luke Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: Producer Mark Kelly tells me late season for Luke Metcalf,

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Speaker 2: So read that anyway you like. But it feels as

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Speaker 2: feels like Shanelle Harris, Tavita and TOMIGHTI Martin and they're

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Speaker 2: next little while. How are you Troy morning.

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Speaker 9: Fining or afternoon next week?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Good? Magaway good. When the Warriors were on a Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I always feel like, yeah, yeah, I feel like a toy.

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Speaker 2: It happens with your sports team, So isn't it if

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Speaker 9: Yes, well, after last week's Yeah, they've got a bit

434
00:22:16,107 --> 00:22:18,107
Speaker 9: of a dilemma there. But you know, I think to

435
00:22:18,107 --> 00:22:21,147
Speaker 9: be fair to Sean, you know, prior to the Magic

436
00:22:21,227 --> 00:22:23,107
Speaker 9: Round game where he got intoed there. You know, at

437
00:22:23,107 --> 00:22:26,027
Speaker 9: the Magic Round game as well, it was fantastic. But

438
00:22:26,907 --> 00:22:29,187
Speaker 9: he's she's struggling with injuries and I hope they don't

439
00:22:29,187 --> 00:22:31,147
Speaker 9: bring him back too soon. I don't think he's been right.

440
00:22:31,187 --> 00:22:35,627
Speaker 9: He hasn't been training hardly anything during the week. You know,

441
00:22:35,747 --> 00:22:37,787
Speaker 9: he's getting on and I think he probably just needs

442
00:22:37,787 --> 00:22:39,547
Speaker 9: to freshen up a little bit and come back, and

443
00:22:39,787 --> 00:22:41,387
Speaker 9: you know, it'll be interesting to see you over the

444
00:22:41,387 --> 00:22:44,427
Speaker 9: next you know, if he's out for three weeks. You know,

445
00:22:44,467 --> 00:22:46,467
Speaker 9: I don't see it as the teams, but you know,

446
00:22:46,467 --> 00:22:49,387
Speaker 9: it's a good problem to have for we be probably, Yeah,

447
00:22:49,707 --> 00:22:52,107
Speaker 9: but I think he fe Sewan. He's a great player.

448
00:22:52,507 --> 00:22:54,347
Speaker 9: He's got a lot of knockers. He's certainly coughed it

449
00:22:54,427 --> 00:22:57,187
Speaker 9: during the week, I believe some of the stuff that

450
00:22:57,227 --> 00:22:59,467
Speaker 9: I read, and there's some certainly some pretty fair stuff

451
00:22:59,507 --> 00:23:01,867
Speaker 9: done around. But yeah, get to guy a chance, you know,

452
00:23:01,987 --> 00:23:04,187
Speaker 9: let him freshing up, get the injuries right, don't come

453
00:23:04,227 --> 00:23:08,067
Speaker 9: back too early and Metcalfin to Murray Martin playing fantastic

454
00:23:08,107 --> 00:23:10,427
Speaker 9: and you go back to for the major ground. In

455
00:23:10,427 --> 00:23:13,427
Speaker 9: my opinion, to Murray Martin was playing rubbish football and

456
00:23:14,027 --> 00:23:16,427
Speaker 9: I think he must have liked, you know, the warning

457
00:23:16,427 --> 00:23:18,547
Speaker 9: belt of there as Sean goes out injured and he

458
00:23:18,667 --> 00:23:23,307
Speaker 9: really picked up his game. But yeah, if Joel added

459
00:23:23,387 --> 00:23:25,787
Speaker 9: is finey. If the Ford don't go forward, the Hearts.

460
00:23:25,507 --> 00:23:27,907
Speaker 11: Can't do the work right, absolutely right.

461
00:23:28,187 --> 00:23:30,667
Speaker 2: It all starts up front, as they say, yeah, you're right.

462
00:23:30,787 --> 00:23:32,987
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's the same as rugby, isn't it. You

463
00:23:33,027 --> 00:23:35,987
Speaker 9: know the Ford fact don't get dominant, then then you

464
00:23:36,027 --> 00:23:37,827
Speaker 9: know the halves can't do the back line can't do

465
00:23:37,907 --> 00:23:40,667
Speaker 9: the work. So yeah, those guys, you know, they needed

466
00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:43,187
Speaker 9: a rev up and the panel Blake and having Barnett

467
00:23:43,227 --> 00:23:44,947
Speaker 9: and Capeball back there and tall who you know that

468
00:23:45,107 --> 00:23:47,027
Speaker 9: will needed to lift their game and they did. So

469
00:23:47,707 --> 00:23:49,707
Speaker 9: you know, it's a long season, but we're still down

470
00:23:49,747 --> 00:23:50,307
Speaker 9: in thirteenth.

471
00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:51,107
Speaker 2: You know, we beat the.

472
00:23:51,027 --> 00:23:54,307
Speaker 9: Broncos are in eighth place team, but without all these stars,

473
00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:57,307
Speaker 9: you know, and to me, the Broncos will be in

474
00:23:57,347 --> 00:23:59,107
Speaker 9: the in the in the top, they will get into

475
00:23:59,107 --> 00:24:01,467
Speaker 9: the top four. I think you bring back Reynolds. I

476
00:24:01,467 --> 00:24:04,667
Speaker 9: think he's two back in August. So yeah, that's a

477
00:24:04,667 --> 00:24:07,387
Speaker 9: good scalp to get. But you know, roll on next

478
00:24:07,387 --> 00:24:08,467
Speaker 9: week to the Tigers of It.

479
00:24:10,227 --> 00:24:12,027
Speaker 2: Bulldogs, Bulldogs. I think next week.

480
00:24:12,867 --> 00:24:16,227
Speaker 9: Bulldogs, right, Okay, so yeah, there's no easy games, isn't it.

481
00:24:17,907 --> 00:24:17,947
Speaker 16: No.

482
00:24:18,787 --> 00:24:22,507
Speaker 2: I think last week proved that didn't try unfortunately.

483
00:24:23,507 --> 00:24:25,307
Speaker 9: Yeah, accredit to the team and the management. You know,

484
00:24:25,307 --> 00:24:27,347
Speaker 9: it's pretty hard to pick yourself up from a flogging

485
00:24:27,347 --> 00:24:30,187
Speaker 9: of that. So I'm sure they would have had the

486
00:24:30,507 --> 00:24:32,627
Speaker 9: hardwork from them during the week, and you know, they

487
00:24:32,667 --> 00:24:35,707
Speaker 9: performed so well done one game at a time and.

488
00:24:35,747 --> 00:24:38,027
Speaker 2: Detroit good points, well made. It was always mate, Thanks

489
00:24:38,067 --> 00:24:40,867
Speaker 2: for calling callback anytime. Yeah, the whole I remember when

490
00:24:40,987 --> 00:24:44,507
Speaker 2: when Tomurri Martin was being talked about sort of in

491
00:24:44,547 --> 00:24:48,387
Speaker 2: that run of losses that the team had. They lost

492
00:24:48,387 --> 00:24:51,707
Speaker 2: to the Dragons, Titans, Knights, Roosters in consecutive games and

493
00:24:52,267 --> 00:24:54,387
Speaker 2: to Marty Martin was playing in the sixth jumper then

494
00:24:54,507 --> 00:24:56,987
Speaker 2: and then for the Panthers game, that's when Shawn Johnson

495
00:24:57,027 --> 00:24:59,267
Speaker 2: got injured and Martin got moved to the seven jumper,

496
00:24:59,347 --> 00:25:02,147
Speaker 2: and it almost it was almost as though something happened,

497
00:25:02,187 --> 00:25:04,347
Speaker 2: not because of the jersey change. And I saw it

498
00:25:04,387 --> 00:25:08,747
Speaker 2: suggested that the Martin Johnson combination was the problem or

499
00:25:09,147 --> 00:25:12,387
Speaker 2: just wasn't jelling as well as it might have. And

500
00:25:12,427 --> 00:25:15,347
Speaker 2: you look at the Harris ta Vita Martin combination, you think, well,

501
00:25:15,627 --> 00:25:18,947
Speaker 2: if you talk about combinations jelling, there's one right there.

502
00:25:19,227 --> 00:25:21,347
Speaker 2: It's jelling brilliantly. Hello, Lyle.

503
00:25:22,947 --> 00:25:26,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, Look, there's no room for sentiment and professional sport.

504
00:25:26,867 --> 00:25:29,747
Speaker 17: And I think webs is a good catch. But one

505
00:25:29,907 --> 00:25:33,507
Speaker 17: faire he had was probably bringing back Johnson too early

506
00:25:33,627 --> 00:25:36,707
Speaker 17: last week. And when Johnson has played this year at

507
00:25:37,387 --> 00:25:40,267
Speaker 17: fixed tackles or five tackles out and he kicked them,

508
00:25:40,267 --> 00:25:44,307
Speaker 17: it's always to the right. Tavita Harris and Murray Martin

509
00:25:44,587 --> 00:25:48,067
Speaker 17: one and kicked left foot, one on right foot. And

510
00:25:48,107 --> 00:25:50,707
Speaker 17: it's an old saying that it's a very true one.

511
00:25:50,907 --> 00:25:53,627
Speaker 17: It's not broke, you don't fix it. Every game that

512
00:25:53,947 --> 00:25:57,507
Speaker 17: those two played together, they've gone, well, they've won. Look,

513
00:25:57,547 --> 00:26:01,387
Speaker 17: I think Johnson fully fit would definitely be something. But

514
00:26:02,267 --> 00:26:04,627
Speaker 17: I don't know how Webster went to the guys that

515
00:26:04,747 --> 00:26:08,547
Speaker 17: did the job when he was available. And Shaun's coming back,

516
00:26:08,587 --> 00:26:15,707
Speaker 17: and because really it's ah, well going back, it's not broke,

517
00:26:15,987 --> 00:26:18,187
Speaker 17: you don't fix it, and the guys are getting the

518
00:26:18,347 --> 00:26:21,987
Speaker 17: job done. So hopefully he'll even when Johnson is that,

519
00:26:22,187 --> 00:26:24,667
Speaker 17: he'll bring him back in slowly off the bench.

520
00:26:25,907 --> 00:26:27,987
Speaker 2: I'll give you another adage. I'll give you another adage.

521
00:26:27,987 --> 00:26:30,227
Speaker 2: While then I think Andrew Webster goes by it, and

522
00:26:30,387 --> 00:26:32,387
Speaker 2: you're right. I mean, if it ain't broke down, fix it.

523
00:26:32,387 --> 00:26:34,907
Speaker 2: I think the adage he goes by his form as temporary,

524
00:26:35,307 --> 00:26:37,707
Speaker 2: class as permanent. And we know Shawn Johnson's a class

525
00:26:37,747 --> 00:26:40,147
Speaker 2: player at one hundred percent fitness.

526
00:26:41,587 --> 00:26:44,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, but he virtually hasn't been the entire season. But

527
00:26:44,907 --> 00:26:47,547
Speaker 17: I'll tell you what book this guy black out of

528
00:26:47,587 --> 00:26:50,227
Speaker 17: this selected right for the All BacT. He's played eight

529
00:26:50,307 --> 00:26:52,867
Speaker 17: games in two years because apparently he's like a beast,

530
00:26:52,907 --> 00:26:55,427
Speaker 17: he rips and destroys. But I've got to look at

531
00:26:55,427 --> 00:26:58,267
Speaker 17: it and go, well, eight games in two years, you're

532
00:26:58,267 --> 00:27:00,347
Speaker 17: good to us when you're on the field, but when

533
00:27:00,347 --> 00:27:02,667
Speaker 17: you're not on the field, you're not so personally. If

534
00:27:02,707 --> 00:27:05,107
Speaker 17: I was a rugby select I would have said, you know,

535
00:27:05,787 --> 00:27:07,827
Speaker 17: you need to down you're acting a bit more and

536
00:27:07,867 --> 00:27:11,867
Speaker 17: stop going to the emergency ward. Yeah, everything he's just

537
00:27:11,907 --> 00:27:14,987
Speaker 17: told me about Johnson is true. I'm modern not that

538
00:27:16,067 --> 00:27:18,307
Speaker 17: I think far other time. They're starting to catch up

539
00:27:18,307 --> 00:27:23,067
Speaker 17: with him. It's an incredibly physical sport and you need

540
00:27:23,147 --> 00:27:25,627
Speaker 17: to come back, probably through reserve grade. And if he

541
00:27:25,707 --> 00:27:28,627
Speaker 17: shows the form, put him on the bench. But until

542
00:27:28,707 --> 00:27:31,267
Speaker 17: the current two And as for the other bloke there

543
00:27:31,267 --> 00:27:34,947
Speaker 17: hasn't been there all season, I forget the name, but

544
00:27:35,827 --> 00:27:44,107
Speaker 17: he's incredibly fragile metcal you're you're you're only any good

545
00:27:44,147 --> 00:27:48,627
Speaker 17: mate to us when you're on the field. So until

546
00:27:48,707 --> 00:27:52,347
Speaker 17: the current too start to do things wrong or you

547
00:27:52,387 --> 00:27:55,467
Speaker 17: think Johnson is showing form through reserve grade, sorry you

548
00:27:55,627 --> 00:27:58,827
Speaker 17: stay with the status quote. It's only my humble opinion.

549
00:27:59,107 --> 00:28:01,187
Speaker 2: It's a good opinion, lot, And what I love about

550
00:28:01,187 --> 00:28:03,387
Speaker 2: it is that it's not personal. It's not a personal opinion.

551
00:28:03,387 --> 00:28:07,067
Speaker 2: You're not begging anybody, it's just completely fact based. You're

552
00:28:07,067 --> 00:28:11,507
Speaker 2: dead right, and I think if it ain't broke, don't

553
00:28:11,507 --> 00:28:15,187
Speaker 2: fix it. Trump's formers, temporary classes permanent. If we're having

554
00:28:15,187 --> 00:28:18,347
Speaker 2: a battle of the adages, it would be very, very

555
00:28:18,467 --> 00:28:22,507
Speaker 2: unfair to break up a winning combination. For example, if Chanelle, Harris,

556
00:28:22,507 --> 00:28:25,987
Speaker 2: Tavita and to Mighty Marsin continue to guide the warriors

557
00:28:25,987 --> 00:28:32,827
Speaker 2: around with success, then it would be extremely hard or

558
00:28:32,907 --> 00:28:36,067
Speaker 2: harsh rather for one or both of them to be dropped.

559
00:28:37,427 --> 00:28:38,987
Speaker 2: Go back again to what I said before about the

560
00:28:39,267 --> 00:28:45,667
Speaker 2: selection line, though, Richie mccau's an example came Williamson and

561
00:28:45,707 --> 00:28:48,307
Speaker 2: our test team as an example. Guys who when they're

562
00:28:48,307 --> 00:28:50,627
Speaker 2: fitting available play regardless. You just make room for them.

563
00:28:50,667 --> 00:28:54,027
Speaker 2: They come back in. Doesn't matter if the bloke who's

564
00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:57,547
Speaker 2: been in their position has been, you know, playing very

565
00:28:57,627 --> 00:29:00,747
Speaker 2: very well. Certain people live above the selection line, and

566
00:29:00,787 --> 00:29:02,907
Speaker 2: like I said, I think Shawn Johnson the twenty twenty

567
00:29:02,987 --> 00:29:05,867
Speaker 2: three version definitely did, and if he can recapture that

568
00:29:05,907 --> 00:29:08,667
Speaker 2: then the twenty twenty four version probably does too. But

569
00:29:08,707 --> 00:29:11,587
Speaker 2: as Lyyl pointed out, you gotta just just maybe hover

570
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,867
Speaker 2: above it a bit and say, right, get fit, get

571
00:29:14,907 --> 00:29:17,347
Speaker 2: some form back and come in and help us make

572
00:29:17,347 --> 00:29:19,267
Speaker 2: a bit of a charge at the back end of

573
00:29:19,267 --> 00:29:22,387
Speaker 2: the season. The timing actually might be perfect, good to

574
00:29:22,467 --> 00:29:25,227
Speaker 2: chat to you. Elila's always Paul. We spoke yesterday, didn't we.

575
00:29:25,307 --> 00:29:28,507
Speaker 2: You went to the game, you enjoy it? Yeah?

576
00:29:28,547 --> 00:29:31,907
Speaker 18: I did only Yeah, that was fantastic and it was

577
00:29:32,027 --> 00:29:34,707
Speaker 18: really good. The thing that themes song at the end

578
00:29:34,707 --> 00:29:37,867
Speaker 18: of the game. Finally it's in a long time between three.

579
00:29:39,787 --> 00:29:42,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, looked, I looked awesome on the telly, everyone belding

580
00:29:42,467 --> 00:29:44,707
Speaker 2: it out. That's a cool moment, isn't it.

581
00:29:44,707 --> 00:29:48,507
Speaker 18: It is a cool moment. And the legions that were

582
00:29:48,507 --> 00:29:51,467
Speaker 18: there were so good to see those faces. I think

583
00:29:51,507 --> 00:29:55,187
Speaker 18: the happiest person was my son who passed the ball.

584
00:29:55,267 --> 00:29:57,387
Speaker 18: You know, he's got a ball for Logan Swan a

585
00:29:57,467 --> 00:29:59,427
Speaker 18: sign and the Logan passed it to the next guy.

586
00:29:59,547 --> 00:30:02,387
Speaker 18: So I went around the whole legends and then back again.

587
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,227
Speaker 18: So he was very happy, my son.

588
00:30:04,947 --> 00:30:09,227
Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's all. Yeah, those those days are really cool,

589
00:30:09,227 --> 00:30:11,787
Speaker 2: aren't they. And you see guys like Logan Swan, one

590
00:30:11,827 --> 00:30:14,387
Speaker 2: of the best looking sportsmen in Newsdale industry, just quietly

591
00:30:14,947 --> 00:30:16,787
Speaker 2: but you see all those guys out there and you think,

592
00:30:17,067 --> 00:30:19,107
Speaker 2: I think it's it must just be awesome for them,

593
00:30:19,267 --> 00:30:21,587
Speaker 2: but also great that the crowd get to sort of

594
00:30:21,587 --> 00:30:23,747
Speaker 2: remember those those days. You know that's very cool.

595
00:30:24,267 --> 00:30:26,987
Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely, you know there were Simon Manoring City, you

596
00:30:27,227 --> 00:30:29,827
Speaker 18: just names from the past, fantastic. But I think one

597
00:30:29,907 --> 00:30:33,707
Speaker 18: hundred percent finely regarding Shawn Johnson, you know, it's not

598
00:30:33,747 --> 00:30:36,747
Speaker 18: a matter of begging the guy or anything. He's obviously

599
00:30:36,867 --> 00:30:39,267
Speaker 18: had been under an injury cloud for a while now.

600
00:30:39,307 --> 00:30:44,027
Speaker 18: And you know, Chanelle and Tomida, they were absolutely fantastic tonight.

601
00:30:44,067 --> 00:30:45,547
Speaker 18: You know, she now was out on the left edge

602
00:30:45,587 --> 00:30:50,027
Speaker 18: there and slice through three times. It's undeniable that combination,

603
00:30:50,227 --> 00:30:53,187
Speaker 18: you know, so there's absolutely no way that he can

604
00:30:53,227 --> 00:30:55,387
Speaker 18: go back to anyone else. And I actually ran into

605
00:30:56,387 --> 00:31:00,267
Speaker 18: Metcalf and he said he's six weeks away, so you know,

606
00:31:00,307 --> 00:31:04,467
Speaker 18: hopefully we've sticks with that combination. I thought the pack

607
00:31:04,547 --> 00:31:08,107
Speaker 18: Dylan Walker was fantastic and and the guys you could

608
00:31:08,147 --> 00:31:11,227
Speaker 18: just see that came out with intent like they did

609
00:31:11,267 --> 00:31:14,547
Speaker 18: against the Cowboys a few weeks ago. Was just you

610
00:31:14,587 --> 00:31:17,987
Speaker 18: could just see the urgency and the ferocity and everything

611
00:31:18,387 --> 00:31:21,347
Speaker 18: in the game. So that's that's what we need every

612
00:31:21,387 --> 00:31:21,947
Speaker 18: single week.

613
00:31:23,027 --> 00:31:25,867
Speaker 2: Toy Yep, love it, Paul, good stuff, mate. Can you

614
00:31:25,907 --> 00:31:27,507
Speaker 2: tell who all the can you tell who all the

615
00:31:27,507 --> 00:31:29,627
Speaker 2: signatures are on your son's ball?

616
00:31:31,387 --> 00:31:34,027
Speaker 18: I'm sure if you had a look around you could tell.

617
00:31:34,187 --> 00:31:36,467
Speaker 18: But it was really good to see those legends and

618
00:31:36,547 --> 00:31:38,227
Speaker 18: what a good way to honor them, you know, Henry

619
00:31:38,227 --> 00:31:41,987
Speaker 18: Farv Feeley and Lance back from the States, and Steve

620
00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:45,387
Speaker 18: Price was over from Ozzie and Kevin Campion and it

621
00:31:45,427 --> 00:31:45,987
Speaker 18: was really good.

622
00:31:45,987 --> 00:31:46,387
Speaker 19: Mate.

623
00:31:46,707 --> 00:31:48,627
Speaker 2: Oh, the memory is brilliant, Paul, how good the chatter

624
00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:50,387
Speaker 2: is always, mate. We'll do it. We'll do it again

625
00:31:50,387 --> 00:31:52,187
Speaker 2: over the next eight or nine weeks, no doubt. Good

626
00:31:52,187 --> 00:31:54,307
Speaker 2: to chat to you, man, I'm glad, glad you had

627
00:31:54,307 --> 00:31:56,427
Speaker 2: a great experience at Mount Smart last night. Sounds like

628
00:31:56,467 --> 00:31:58,467
Speaker 2: it was an absolute cracker. We've got to break in

629
00:31:58,507 --> 00:32:01,067
Speaker 2: a minute. Just on text from Joe good bounce back

630
00:32:01,067 --> 00:32:03,947
Speaker 2: from Royals last night after last week's shocking effort. I

631
00:32:03,947 --> 00:32:06,307
Speaker 2: feel like Andrew Webson needs to stick with Timmighty Martin

632
00:32:06,387 --> 00:32:09,067
Speaker 2: and Shanell Harris Devita. The team just looks way better

633
00:32:09,067 --> 00:32:12,027
Speaker 2: and plays with real purpose with those two at the Helm.

634
00:32:12,107 --> 00:32:14,227
Speaker 2: Next week is a four point game against the Bulldogs

635
00:32:14,227 --> 00:32:17,107
Speaker 2: before the next by a tough game ahead as they're

636
00:32:17,147 --> 00:32:20,267
Speaker 2: going great guns but of an next Panther coach Derby

637
00:32:20,427 --> 00:32:23,187
Speaker 2: should be a real test for both teams good stuff, Joe. Yeah,

638
00:32:23,307 --> 00:32:27,707
Speaker 2: so Bulldogs next week, then the bye. I think we'll

639
00:32:27,747 --> 00:32:31,307
Speaker 2: just check that. I'm pretty sure that's the case. Yeah, Bulldogs,

640
00:32:31,347 --> 00:32:34,427
Speaker 2: then the bye that's Bulldogs is away, then the Raiders

641
00:32:34,427 --> 00:32:37,827
Speaker 2: away and then back home on Friday, the twenty sixth

642
00:32:37,827 --> 00:32:42,027
Speaker 2: of July against the Tigers. So yeah, Bulldogs will be tough.

643
00:32:42,027 --> 00:32:46,547
Speaker 2: They're fifth, Raiders currently eleventh, Tiger's currently sixteenth, and then

644
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Speaker 2: it's the Eels currently seventeenth. So without wanting to put

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Speaker 2: the mockers on it, it feels like they could go

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Speaker 2: on a bit of a run. And there are only

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Speaker 2: one point outside the top eight as we look at

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Speaker 2: the table right now. So as I said to someone earlier,

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Speaker 2: you just kind of need to get one a few games,

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Speaker 2: and I was willy poaching, just got to win a

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Speaker 2: couple of games, and all of a sudden, you're right

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Speaker 2: up there. Back in a moment with more calls, eighteen

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Speaker 2: away from one US talk sab the.

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Speaker 1: Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend Sport

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Speaker 1: with Jason GJ. Gunn Homes New Zealand's most trusted home

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Speaker 1: builder News talks be.

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Speaker 2: Called It to one. Back to the phones in a moment.

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Speaker 2: A couple of postmatch comments though from Andrew Webster after

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Speaker 2: the game last night. Was he confident of a bounce

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Speaker 2: back performance from his team after what happened on the

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Speaker 2: Gold Coast.

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Speaker 7: I'm always confident in these boys. Yeah, I just think.

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Speaker 16: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: The way we.

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Speaker 7: Trained it was pretty obviously we weren't going to turn

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Speaker 7: up and dish that up again.

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Speaker 2: I think that was pretty clear.

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Speaker 7: But I thought again when we're playing the Titans through

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Speaker 7: our preparation was good, but there was something different there

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Speaker 7: this week. Until that the boys are on prepared and

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Speaker 7: we just got to add a little bit of detail

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Speaker 7: to our muscle tonight because we didn't get that right.

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Speaker 2: On a similar topic, how much was last week mentioned

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Speaker 2: in the build up to this week.

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Speaker 16: When we left Australia.

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Speaker 7: We we didn't mention it or not all week because

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Speaker 7: if you were in the hotel room the next morning

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Speaker 7: when we watched it back, we made a deal that

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Speaker 7: we were, you know, we were going to walk not

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Speaker 7: walk past it, and be real accountable right here right now,

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Speaker 7: and then our actions this week have to be looking

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Speaker 7: forward because he turned up with a hangover this week

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Speaker 7: and down on confidence, and the only way we're going

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Speaker 7: to build confidence is the way we trained and prepared.

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Speaker 7: And people might think that's a bit of a selft

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Speaker 7: option not to bring it up constantly, but we just

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Speaker 7: didn't see it. And we're going to give us what

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Speaker 7: we wanted, and we wanted to win tonight, and the

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Speaker 7: best way to do that was to look forward. And

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Speaker 7: after we were made accountable, I was too.

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Speaker 2: We were all in it together. And finally from Andrew

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Speaker 2: Webster the Harvest combo, what did he make of the

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Speaker 2: performance of Chanelle, Harris, Tavita and to Mighty Martin thought

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Speaker 2: they did lots of good things.

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Speaker 7: I thought they need to work on things. Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: was happy with them, and I I think we need

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Speaker 7: to stay grounded here. I think I think as boys

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Speaker 7: would say that they were wrapped in a lot of

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Speaker 7: the things they didn't thinks they didn't want to improve on.

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Speaker 7: But I could say they probably about every positional group tonight.

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Speaker 7: It's funny like the amount of the amount of possession

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Speaker 7: we created it from our aggression and the way we

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Speaker 7: wanted to defend, but then we still found it, found

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Speaker 7: some way to give them like a sniff. And I

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Speaker 7: think every single position group, I've got something to say

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Speaker 7: about that tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's the voice of Andrew Webster some of us post

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Speaker 2: match comments last night. Thanks for holding Mark, how are you?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Good good interviews today. It's quite refreshing having is the

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Speaker 11: all black coach. He's certainly a lot more personable in

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Speaker 11: the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoy I must say, Mark,

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed your calls into the show as well. I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed chatting to Raise. It was the first chance I've

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Speaker 2: had to do it. I've met him a couple of

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Speaker 2: times in media situations, but being based in christ Church

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Speaker 2: with the Crusaders, haven't had a heck of a lot

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Speaker 2: to do with them. But yeah, I found them to

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Speaker 2: be honest, personable, funny. Yeah. I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be going to be an interesting, interesting four years under

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Speaker 2: his watch, at least four years hopefully.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, no. As I said, it is good

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Speaker 11: to have a bit of a change and hopefully he

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Speaker 11: doesn't get jaded over all the pressure of the job.

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Speaker 11: I actually noticed they show Christopher Leuxin on the big

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Speaker 11: screen last night and he's got a bit of a

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Speaker 11: boo from them.

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Speaker 2: I saw that, I saw it. I reckon. Politicians must

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Speaker 2: hate it when must hate it when they get flashed

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Speaker 2: on that they're in a no one situation. No one's

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Speaker 2: ever going to cheer for them, are they. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that's you know, but unfair on the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 11: Actually yeah, it was a big tool by the camera

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Speaker 11: and I think hopefully yeah you said a stolen most

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Speaker 11: thunder a bit about Shawn Johnson to know Madam that

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Speaker 11: I guess it has given the choice at the moment

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Speaker 11: currently and Shawn Johnson isn't the twenty twenty three Seawn

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Speaker 11: Johns at the moment for whatever reason. And weirdly, I

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Speaker 11: guess people were so surprised how good Shawn Johnson was

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Speaker 11: last year. This year he's been a disappointment and whether

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Speaker 11: that's for injury or whatever, I just think the team

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Speaker 11: is going better with Martin and Harris de Vita in

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Speaker 11: the house. And I mean half combinations sometimes take quite

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Speaker 11: a long time to build in rugby league, and I

746
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Speaker 11: think the more those two play together going forward and

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Speaker 11: if they are to make a real challenge this year,

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Speaker 11: I think to me, Martin and Tabida a better choice

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Speaker 11: than Martin and Johnson, because I don't think Martin is

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Speaker 11: anywhere near the player he is playing his number seven

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Speaker 11: as he is taking a backwards seat at six and

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Speaker 11: letting Sean Johnson lead the team around.

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Speaker 2: It's a good observation, Mark, and I don't think you'll

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Speaker 2: get too many people who disagree. In fact, as I

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Speaker 2: said before, you know, leading into the time when Shaw

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Speaker 2: Johnson and got injured the first time, when he and

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Speaker 2: Martin had been paired up right up until the Panthers game,

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Speaker 2: there were calls for Tomighty Martin to you know, to

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Speaker 2: be dropped because because he just wasn't effective and you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe you can have rebovelance. Actually it was the combination

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Speaker 2: that wasn't affect rather than one or other of the players.

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Speaker 2: But you have to say, look, you're right to Mighty

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Speaker 2: Martin looks better when he's not playing with Shawn Johnson.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason.

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Speaker 11: I think it's just the energy of the team. If

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Speaker 11: it's a weird sort of e theoreal thing to say,

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Speaker 11: you know what I mean, but the team just feels

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Speaker 11: better when Martin is at number seven and leading them

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Speaker 11: around the field.

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Speaker 8: Day.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the difference in the team between last night

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Speaker 11: and the week before was day. I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 11: playing an under strength Bronco side, but they still needed

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Speaker 11: to get up and put in that performance for any

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Speaker 11: minutes last night, and I thought they were pretty damn solid.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I agree. I thought that it really was.

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Speaker 2: Even though we say it wasn't a must win, and

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Speaker 2: we can talk about that in mathematical terms, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: If they've lost last night, they're still in contention for

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Speaker 2: the top eight. But I think it was a must

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Speaker 2: win for the morale of the team to absolutely put

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Speaker 2: the Titans defeat behind them. For example, if the Broncos

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Speaker 2: had come back from what were the Warriors leader and

784
00:39:26,947 --> 00:39:28,747
Speaker 2: they were ten to twelve point lead at one stage,

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Speaker 2: if the Broncos had come back with as you've said,

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Speaker 2: missing a few guys, some important guys, and beaten the

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Speaker 2: Warriors last night, then even if they'd played better, and

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Speaker 2: they did play better than last week, I still think

789
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Speaker 2: that it would have hung over them. You know, they

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Speaker 2: would have been in a situation there where they then

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Speaker 2: lost three in a row. Instead, they can now say

792
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Speaker 2: we've won four of our last six. So actually, you

793
00:39:50,627 --> 00:39:52,347
Speaker 2: know that the stats aren't too bad if you look

794
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Speaker 2: at it that way.

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Speaker 11: And I think with Mars and his number number seven,

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00:39:56,827 --> 00:40:00,787
Speaker 11: they're looking better every time he starts at that position too.

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Speaker 11: You know, the Narl competition this year is the tightest

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Speaker 11: I've seen it. I don't think I've ever seen a

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Speaker 11: competition where the bottom team can you know, has a

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Speaker 11: chance to beat one of the top teams, you know

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Speaker 11: what I mean. Every game game this year it's really

802
00:40:15,947 --> 00:40:19,267
Speaker 11: been hasn't been like, oh, this team's going to definitely

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Speaker 11: beat that team, you know what I mean? And I

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00:40:20,827 --> 00:40:24,067
Speaker 11: think that gives the Warriors hope that they can actually

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Speaker 11: make the top eight and maybe at an outside push

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Speaker 11: for the top four.

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Speaker 6: Chant Well, they've.

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Speaker 2: Got seventeen points, mark, and they're thirteenth and the team

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Speaker 2: that's eighth, the Broncos, have got eighteen points, so they're

810
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Speaker 2: one point behind the team in eighth spot and yet

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Speaker 2: they're currently thirteenth. So that tells you all you need

812
00:40:40,867 --> 00:40:42,747
Speaker 2: to know about the titness of the of the points table.

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Speaker 6: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Good on your mark. Good the chat has always mate.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, indeed seven away from one stalks.

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Speaker 1: It bo from the drag field and the court on

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Speaker 1: your home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason vine B.

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Speaker 2: Four to one. Thanks for your calls and your messages

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Speaker 2: regarding the Warrior. Sorry we couldn't get everybody on the air,

820
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Speaker 2: but it's good to know that there's plenty to chat

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Speaker 2: about when it comes to the Wars. Next up the

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Speaker 2: Bulldogs next weekend of course after one o'clock, want to

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Speaker 2: shift our focus in a couple of directions. First of all,

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Speaker 2: to our top triathlete Hayden Wild as he targets the

825
00:41:17,347 --> 00:41:19,947
Speaker 2: top of the podium in Paris. You'll remember he won

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Speaker 2: bronze at the Tokyo Olympics. He won silver at the

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Speaker 2: Birmingham Commonwealth Games with a time penalty that scuffed his chances.

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Speaker 2: He's targeting gold in Paris. Don't you worry about that?

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Speaker 2: Hayden Wild on the show after one and the All

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Speaker 2: Whites take on Vanowatu this afternoon in the final of

831
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Speaker 2: the Oceanian Nations Cup. Ben Wayne is with US James

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Speaker 2: mcconi two Between one and two.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

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Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on We James Ford with

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Speaker 1: Jason Vain on your home of sport.

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Speaker 2: US Talk one oh seven. This is Weekend Sport on

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine, Mark Kelly as show producer. Today we're with

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Speaker 2: you till three footballs out. Ben Wayne's on the show.

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Speaker 2: He's got four goals and two games for the All

840
00:42:04,907 --> 00:42:07,027
Speaker 2: Whites at the OFC Nations Cup as they've made their

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00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:10,027
Speaker 2: way all the way to the final. They'll take on Vanuatu,

842
00:42:10,107 --> 00:42:12,867
Speaker 2: the host nation, in Port Villa this afternoon from four.

843
00:42:12,907 --> 00:42:15,627
Speaker 2: Ben Wains on the show, speaking of Ben's who played football.

844
00:42:16,067 --> 00:42:18,747
Speaker 2: He might have just caught that item in our sports

845
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Speaker 2: news with Elliott at one or read it in the Herald. Perhaps.

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Speaker 2: Ben Old, Wellington Phoenix midfielder, also part of this All

847
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Speaker 2: White side. Actually that's going to play this afternoon against Vanuatu,

848
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Speaker 2: is looking like he's going to France Saint Ettien, who

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Speaker 2: have just got promoted up into League. I think that's

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Speaker 2: what they call it over there. It's the top league

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Speaker 2: in France. League on. Yes, some pretty strong male that

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Speaker 2: Ben Old will be joining Saint Etien, which is a

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00:42:46,867 --> 00:42:50,867
Speaker 2: terrific move for him. They often say, you know, there

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Speaker 2: are five or six top European leagues, and the French

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Speaker 2: one are certainly there. Yes, it's a little but it's

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00:42:54,947 --> 00:42:57,987
Speaker 2: not the Premier League. It's not La Liga or serri Are,

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00:42:58,107 --> 00:43:01,747
Speaker 2: but man the top French league. For Ben Old, you know,

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00:43:01,827 --> 00:43:06,147
Speaker 2: a product, another product of Wellington Phoenix. After Alex Paulson's

859
00:43:06,147 --> 00:43:09,347
Speaker 2: side with Bournemouth. We've seen Ben Wayne himself was a

860
00:43:09,347 --> 00:43:12,707
Speaker 2: Phoenix player, go over and plan in the UK. Many

861
00:43:12,747 --> 00:43:16,307
Speaker 2: others as well coming through that system, Liby Cacacci, Sarpret

862
00:43:16,467 --> 00:43:20,587
Speaker 2: Singh and earning moves off shore. Ben Old feels like

863
00:43:20,587 --> 00:43:23,747
Speaker 2: he's the latest one. So yeah, as I understand it,

864
00:43:23,787 --> 00:43:26,667
Speaker 2: I've sort of had a couple of conversations with people

865
00:43:26,707 --> 00:43:30,507
Speaker 2: around this. This may well be confirmed in the next

866
00:43:30,507 --> 00:43:33,307
Speaker 2: week or so. Interestingly, Ben Old will be going to

867
00:43:33,347 --> 00:43:36,027
Speaker 2: Paris for the Olympics as part of the New Zealand

868
00:43:36,067 --> 00:43:38,187
Speaker 2: side for the Olympic Games. So he might just stay

869
00:43:38,227 --> 00:43:40,187
Speaker 2: in France. He might just not come home. I hope

870
00:43:40,187 --> 00:43:43,427
Speaker 2: he's packed all of his clothes. Anyway, we'll wait and

871
00:43:43,467 --> 00:43:45,267
Speaker 2: see about that Ben Wayne this hour. As I say,

872
00:43:45,347 --> 00:43:47,867
Speaker 2: James mcconey as well. But I want to start with

873
00:43:48,627 --> 00:43:52,307
Speaker 2: triathlon and official confirmation at the start of this week

874
00:43:52,347 --> 00:43:55,747
Speaker 2: that our top triathlete Hayden Wilde is heading to his

875
00:43:55,827 --> 00:43:58,627
Speaker 2: second Olympic Games. Of course, he got on the podium

876
00:43:58,667 --> 00:44:02,707
Speaker 2: in Tokyo. What a magical finish and ye will take

877
00:44:03,147 --> 00:44:06,787
Speaker 2: silver for great Britain and what about that Hayden Wild

878
00:44:07,427 --> 00:44:10,987
Speaker 2: the Bruins bronze medalist and the men's individual event at

879
00:44:10,987 --> 00:44:13,427
Speaker 2: the last Olympic Games, and two years ago at the

880
00:44:13,467 --> 00:44:17,267
Speaker 2: Birmingham Commonwealth Games he was a silver medallist.

881
00:44:17,387 --> 00:44:20,467
Speaker 3: So Hayden Wild makes a turn for home. He is

882
00:44:20,507 --> 00:44:23,627
Speaker 3: in the lead. Is he aware of the penalty? Who knows?

883
00:44:23,867 --> 00:44:26,707
Speaker 3: But for now Hayden Wild of New Zealand is going

884
00:44:26,747 --> 00:44:30,027
Speaker 3: to come through and lead alex Ye just by the

885
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:34,227
Speaker 3: smallest of margins. But unfortunately for Hayden Wild, he will

886
00:44:34,227 --> 00:44:37,147
Speaker 3: have to serve this ten second penalty and look at

887
00:44:37,147 --> 00:44:40,027
Speaker 3: that for sportsmanship. I think we'll look back on that

888
00:44:40,147 --> 00:44:44,347
Speaker 3: moment with botanists. Hayden Wild has high five alex Ye.

889
00:44:44,467 --> 00:44:47,467
Speaker 3: He's well aware of the penalty. He's clapped the home

890
00:44:48,227 --> 00:44:52,747
Speaker 3: town hero Home. Hayden Wild is now coming through to

891
00:44:52,947 --> 00:44:58,987
Speaker 3: finish second and silver just fourteen seconds behind, having served

892
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,547
Speaker 3: that excruciating ten second penalty.

893
00:45:01,707 --> 00:45:05,187
Speaker 2: O yes, So bronze and Tokyo silver and Birmingham Targeting

894
00:45:05,267 --> 00:45:09,387
Speaker 2: gold no doubt. In Paris and overnight, Hayden Wild has

895
00:45:09,547 --> 00:45:14,267
Speaker 2: cruised to victory in Bordeaux, his last race before next

896
00:45:14,267 --> 00:45:17,707
Speaker 2: month's Olympic Games. I spoke to Hayden Wild earlier this week.

897
00:45:17,747 --> 00:45:22,627
Speaker 2: He was at altitude in Andorra as he was continuous preparations,

898
00:45:22,667 --> 00:45:24,467
Speaker 2: and I asked Hayden while, first of all, what the

899
00:45:24,467 --> 00:45:27,947
Speaker 2: final few weeks of his build up to Paris will

900
00:45:27,987 --> 00:45:28,507
Speaker 2: consist of.

901
00:45:29,347 --> 00:45:31,947
Speaker 13: Yeah, thanks for having me on the show. I think

902
00:45:31,987 --> 00:45:33,947
Speaker 13: the next few weeks is, Yeah, it's going to be

903
00:45:33,987 --> 00:45:37,147
Speaker 13: the most important parts. You know, got to race in

904
00:45:37,227 --> 00:45:41,227
Speaker 13: actually the south of France and this weekend just to

905
00:45:41,307 --> 00:45:44,387
Speaker 13: kind of do the final preparations and see where everything

906
00:45:44,467 --> 00:45:47,267
Speaker 13: is at. And then yeah, here up in altitude at

907
00:45:47,267 --> 00:45:50,307
Speaker 13: two thy four hundreds until the end of about the

908
00:45:50,307 --> 00:45:53,547
Speaker 13: seventeenth of July, just kind of getting those little marginal

909
00:45:53,547 --> 00:45:56,387
Speaker 13: gains kind of before the big dance, and it's just

910
00:45:56,467 --> 00:45:59,907
Speaker 13: kind of fine tuning the things like soomboy, you can

911
00:45:59,987 --> 00:46:02,467
Speaker 13: run this shop and the tools upper bits of the

912
00:46:02,507 --> 00:46:05,907
Speaker 13: top end speed, and then yeah, just make sure I

913
00:46:05,947 --> 00:46:08,747
Speaker 13: wrap my up in bubble wrap and get myself at

914
00:46:08,747 --> 00:46:10,067
Speaker 13: the start line and one hundred percent.

915
00:46:10,507 --> 00:46:12,907
Speaker 2: How much of the preparation that led to your Bronze

916
00:46:12,907 --> 00:46:16,707
Speaker 2: and Tokyo are you looking to replicate for Paris or

917
00:46:16,747 --> 00:46:18,907
Speaker 2: was it just entirely different because of COVID et cetera.

918
00:46:20,667 --> 00:46:25,667
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's completely different with COVID and whatnot.

919
00:46:25,707 --> 00:46:28,627
Speaker 13: But in some ways we have similarly replicated some of

920
00:46:28,667 --> 00:46:32,467
Speaker 13: the training in a positive light, some of the trainings

921
00:46:32,467 --> 00:46:35,147
Speaker 13: that we have replicated, I'm doing a heck of a

922
00:46:35,187 --> 00:46:39,547
Speaker 13: lot better now, which is really positive and satisfying. I

923
00:46:39,547 --> 00:46:42,947
Speaker 13: guess the major difference is obviously I'm based here in Europe.

924
00:46:44,027 --> 00:46:48,547
Speaker 13: I'm able to race and have competitions before the Olympics,

925
00:46:48,667 --> 00:46:52,947
Speaker 13: not like Tokyo. And yeah, the biggest change would probably

926
00:46:52,987 --> 00:46:56,467
Speaker 13: be the altitude, trying to get those extra gains up here.

927
00:46:56,827 --> 00:47:00,267
Speaker 2: When you're looking for marginal gains, but what could be

928
00:47:00,307 --> 00:47:04,467
Speaker 2: really important gains come paris What do you drill down

929
00:47:04,547 --> 00:47:07,867
Speaker 2: into where are you looking to make those those important gains?

930
00:47:08,787 --> 00:47:12,067
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's it's extremely hard to know, you know, Alex

931
00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:15,627
Speaker 13: and I think you know, if we do come off

932
00:47:15,627 --> 00:47:19,107
Speaker 13: the bike together, it's we're very evenly matched. But for

933
00:47:19,187 --> 00:47:23,787
Speaker 13: me has been a really high focused area has been

934
00:47:23,787 --> 00:47:27,467
Speaker 13: probably the swim. I guess personally, like whenever I get

935
00:47:27,507 --> 00:47:29,307
Speaker 13: onto a start line. In some ways, my kind of

936
00:47:29,387 --> 00:47:31,627
Speaker 13: race does come down to chance, and you know, we

937
00:47:31,747 --> 00:47:34,187
Speaker 13: just hope and cross our fingers that I get to

938
00:47:34,187 --> 00:47:37,427
Speaker 13: the front pack and you know, I'm really you know,

939
00:47:37,547 --> 00:47:40,747
Speaker 13: stoked and positive. That's ninety percent of the time. Ninety

940
00:47:40,747 --> 00:47:43,707
Speaker 13: five percent of time it does all come together. And

941
00:47:43,787 --> 00:47:47,347
Speaker 13: I'm super, super lucky to have real good bike legs

942
00:47:47,427 --> 00:47:50,387
Speaker 13: and run run off the bike with you know, a

943
00:47:50,427 --> 00:47:52,867
Speaker 13: pretty hard bike in the legs. So I'd like to

944
00:47:52,947 --> 00:47:58,027
Speaker 13: hopefully change that. And you're obviously having a full focus

945
00:47:58,067 --> 00:48:02,547
Speaker 13: and having a really big swim base coming into this one.

946
00:48:03,107 --> 00:48:05,507
Speaker 13: You know, I obviously spend less energy, might be a

947
00:48:05,547 --> 00:48:08,347
Speaker 13: bit more efficient, the water, be a bit more efficient

948
00:48:08,427 --> 00:48:10,067
Speaker 13: on the bike to then give me the good legs

949
00:48:10,067 --> 00:48:14,107
Speaker 13: on the day to hopefully put out a performance, hopefully

950
00:48:14,107 --> 00:48:16,267
Speaker 13: too better than I did in Tokyo.

951
00:48:16,867 --> 00:48:18,787
Speaker 2: There's doubt, of course, around the swim leg with the

952
00:48:18,827 --> 00:48:20,907
Speaker 2: Sane River being cleaned up. I think they're spending about

953
00:48:20,907 --> 00:48:22,787
Speaker 2: one point five billion to try and get it clean.

954
00:48:23,267 --> 00:48:27,267
Speaker 2: Is there any possibility the triathlon might become a jew athlon?

955
00:48:27,427 --> 00:48:29,227
Speaker 2: What are you hearing? What's the latest you're hearing on that?

956
00:48:30,227 --> 00:48:32,747
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've kind of actually just been staring away a

957
00:48:32,747 --> 00:48:36,827
Speaker 13: bit from the media about it's just because I you know,

958
00:48:37,027 --> 00:48:39,307
Speaker 13: I don't want to be an Olympic champion as a

959
00:48:39,347 --> 00:48:41,987
Speaker 13: jew athlete. I want to be an Olympic champion as

960
00:48:42,027 --> 00:48:45,387
Speaker 13: a triathlon So I haven't changed any of my training

961
00:48:46,827 --> 00:48:48,947
Speaker 13: thinking about us a jewathlen or anything about that. I've

962
00:48:48,987 --> 00:48:51,347
Speaker 13: just kind of been really working on my process and

963
00:48:52,067 --> 00:48:55,547
Speaker 13: you know, just just staying positive and being confident that

964
00:48:56,187 --> 00:48:58,987
Speaker 13: the Paris will be ready for us in forty days time.

965
00:48:59,267 --> 00:49:00,707
Speaker 2: And I think you swum in the scene in the

966
00:49:00,747 --> 00:49:02,667
Speaker 2: test event last year, didn't you. How did you find it?

967
00:49:03,667 --> 00:49:06,747
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was great. It was actually didn't get which

968
00:49:06,787 --> 00:49:12,107
Speaker 13: is positive. And yeah, I think it's a very it's

969
00:49:12,187 --> 00:49:17,227
Speaker 13: actually a very tough swim technically and mentally. It's a

970
00:49:17,587 --> 00:49:21,867
Speaker 13: it's a it's actually currently assisted going into the water.

971
00:49:22,067 --> 00:49:26,507
Speaker 13: So for example, if you know your swim splits, we

972
00:49:26,587 --> 00:49:30,627
Speaker 13: did four hundred and fifty meters in four minutes, which

973
00:49:30,707 --> 00:49:33,307
Speaker 13: is you know, for example, if you look at swimming pool,

974
00:49:33,347 --> 00:49:35,907
Speaker 13: it's you know, it's fast than the world record in

975
00:49:35,947 --> 00:49:38,387
Speaker 13: the four hundred meter and we did, you know, four

976
00:49:38,467 --> 00:49:42,347
Speaker 13: hundred and fifty meters, So it's extremely quick, current assisted,

977
00:49:42,707 --> 00:49:46,147
Speaker 13: but we turn around and we get hit by a

978
00:49:46,187 --> 00:49:49,027
Speaker 13: lot of flowing water, which makes life hard. So it's

979
00:49:49,067 --> 00:49:52,707
Speaker 13: extremely important to be in a really good position in

980
00:49:52,747 --> 00:49:54,587
Speaker 13: that first kind of boy turn at four hundred and

981
00:49:54,627 --> 00:49:58,027
Speaker 13: fifty meters, knowing where you are trying to kind of

982
00:49:58,067 --> 00:50:00,907
Speaker 13: hide yourself behind other athletes to kind of get their

983
00:50:00,987 --> 00:50:04,067
Speaker 13: wake to set you up pretty well for the obviously

984
00:50:04,147 --> 00:50:05,867
Speaker 13: for the rest of the race. So yeah, I think

985
00:50:05,907 --> 00:50:08,267
Speaker 13: position is going to be extremely important when it comes

986
00:50:08,307 --> 00:50:08,867
Speaker 13: to the swim.

987
00:50:08,987 --> 00:50:11,267
Speaker 2: You mentioned Alex before Great Britain to Alex Ye, of

988
00:50:11,267 --> 00:50:14,227
Speaker 2: course your main rival. Two of you have been stride

989
00:50:14,227 --> 00:50:16,667
Speaker 2: for stride many times over the last few years in

990
00:50:16,747 --> 00:50:18,827
Speaker 2: various different events. What are you going to have to

991
00:50:18,827 --> 00:50:20,427
Speaker 2: do really well to beat them?

992
00:50:21,587 --> 00:50:21,827
Speaker 8: Yeah?

993
00:50:21,907 --> 00:50:24,387
Speaker 13: I think. You know, we had a race about a

994
00:50:24,387 --> 00:50:29,507
Speaker 13: month ago in Kagliari, and I came away from that

995
00:50:29,627 --> 00:50:32,747
Speaker 13: race second place, with the sprint finish once again just

996
00:50:32,787 --> 00:50:35,547
Speaker 13: a second behind. But I came away with that race

997
00:50:35,587 --> 00:50:39,027
Speaker 13: with a lot of knowledge, and I think personally, I

998
00:50:39,147 --> 00:50:41,907
Speaker 13: know what I need to do to you know, if

999
00:50:41,907 --> 00:50:44,267
Speaker 13: Alex and I do come off the bike together, I

1000
00:50:44,267 --> 00:50:46,707
Speaker 13: think I know what I need to do. So, you know,

1001
00:50:46,947 --> 00:50:50,387
Speaker 13: the last month of training that I've had here in Andorra,

1002
00:50:50,467 --> 00:50:55,267
Speaker 13: it's been like really specific, but I think it's really

1003
00:50:55,307 --> 00:50:59,107
Speaker 13: coming down to being more efficient in the water to

1004
00:50:59,187 --> 00:51:02,507
Speaker 13: save more energy on the bike and then coming onto

1005
00:51:02,507 --> 00:51:05,747
Speaker 13: the run as being as good as possible. There are

1006
00:51:05,827 --> 00:51:10,347
Speaker 13: so many I guess uncontrollers you cannot control in a trithlon.

1007
00:51:10,427 --> 00:51:12,387
Speaker 13: You know we have It's not just that, I guess

1008
00:51:12,387 --> 00:51:14,267
Speaker 13: that Alex and Hayden show you know we have. We

1009
00:51:14,347 --> 00:51:16,987
Speaker 13: come and we're in France and we've got three world

1010
00:51:17,067 --> 00:51:21,067
Speaker 13: champions on the French team. We've got the ex Olympic

1011
00:51:21,147 --> 00:51:23,667
Speaker 13: medalist from Tokyo. He's going to be there as well, Christian,

1012
00:51:23,747 --> 00:51:27,347
Speaker 13: And yeah, I think personally it's going to be They're

1013
00:51:27,387 --> 00:51:29,387
Speaker 13: going to do all they can to not let us

1014
00:51:29,427 --> 00:51:31,027
Speaker 13: get into the front group, to make it a to

1015
00:51:31,067 --> 00:51:33,747
Speaker 13: make it a running battle between Alex and I. But yeah,

1016
00:51:33,827 --> 00:51:35,667
Speaker 13: as it said, like, if it does come down to

1017
00:51:36,347 --> 00:51:39,547
Speaker 13: the transition and Alex and I are in the front

1018
00:51:39,547 --> 00:51:41,307
Speaker 13: group and we're side by side, it's going to be

1019
00:51:41,387 --> 00:51:42,267
Speaker 13: quite the battle.

1020
00:51:42,027 --> 00:51:45,227
Speaker 2: I think absolutely. And of course you'll join Dylan McCulloch,

1021
00:51:45,427 --> 00:51:47,867
Speaker 2: Nicole Vander Kay and Ainsley Thorpe in the in the

1022
00:51:47,907 --> 00:51:50,947
Speaker 2: mixed teams relay as well. How do you rate your

1023
00:51:50,987 --> 00:51:53,787
Speaker 2: chances of improving on the twelfth place that you achieved

1024
00:51:53,827 --> 00:51:54,307
Speaker 2: in Tokyo.

1025
00:51:55,347 --> 00:51:57,667
Speaker 13: Yeah, for me, personally, it's going to be a lot different,

1026
00:51:59,107 --> 00:52:01,307
Speaker 13: you know this this this time coming around. It's really

1027
00:52:01,387 --> 00:52:04,627
Speaker 13: nice how world trifle and does it where every Olympic

1028
00:52:04,707 --> 00:52:10,147
Speaker 13: cycle the relay gets reversed. So for example, I was

1029
00:52:10,347 --> 00:52:14,147
Speaker 13: actually the finishing league in Tokyo, and you know we

1030
00:52:14,187 --> 00:52:17,667
Speaker 13: were a bit behind at that point. But this year, sorry,

1031
00:52:17,667 --> 00:52:19,867
Speaker 13: this cycle round, it's actually the lady's finishing it off,

1032
00:52:19,907 --> 00:52:21,347
Speaker 13: which is kind of gives it a little bit of

1033
00:52:21,467 --> 00:52:27,307
Speaker 13: a unique standpoint. So, yeah, like the ladies in really

1034
00:52:27,347 --> 00:52:29,187
Speaker 13: good shape at the moment. I think in mixed team

1035
00:52:29,227 --> 00:52:32,067
Speaker 13: relay form. I know I've talked to them a few

1036
00:52:32,067 --> 00:52:33,987
Speaker 13: times and they haven't been too happy with their long

1037
00:52:34,027 --> 00:52:37,867
Speaker 13: distance performances, but I've seen how they've been doing their

1038
00:52:37,907 --> 00:52:40,747
Speaker 13: relays and it looks, you know, they're looking extremely well,

1039
00:52:41,147 --> 00:52:43,027
Speaker 13: and you know, I think we've actually got a good

1040
00:52:43,107 --> 00:52:46,227
Speaker 13: chance of them keeping us into the race. And Nicole,

1041
00:52:46,267 --> 00:52:49,347
Speaker 13: the way she's running at the moment is phenomenal. You know,

1042
00:52:49,427 --> 00:52:51,987
Speaker 13: she's posted some of the fastest run times over the

1043
00:52:52,067 --> 00:52:54,947
Speaker 13: last couple of races. So it's actually really satisfying and

1044
00:52:55,067 --> 00:52:57,067
Speaker 13: nice to see that we've got a really good anchor

1045
00:52:57,147 --> 00:53:01,387
Speaker 13: league potentially, And yeah, Dylan as well. You know, he's

1046
00:53:01,387 --> 00:53:03,907
Speaker 13: had an absolute blinder of the end of season in

1047
00:53:03,947 --> 00:53:06,547
Speaker 13: twenty twenty three, and he had a great start to

1048
00:53:06,587 --> 00:53:09,627
Speaker 13: the New Zealand season and the Oceanian season and this

1049
00:53:09,667 --> 00:53:11,707
Speaker 13: will be his first Olympics as well, so that new

1050
00:53:11,747 --> 00:53:14,827
Speaker 13: experience and just being hungry and just going for it,

1051
00:53:14,827 --> 00:53:17,067
Speaker 13: I think is going to be really nice. And yeah,

1052
00:53:17,067 --> 00:53:20,547
Speaker 13: of course, like if anything happens between Dylan and I,

1053
00:53:20,907 --> 00:53:23,067
Speaker 13: we've got Taylor there as a reserve, and you know,

1054
00:53:23,107 --> 00:53:27,587
Speaker 13: he's extremely experienced and he's a very very good relay athlete.

1055
00:53:27,587 --> 00:53:29,547
Speaker 13: So I feel like we've got a really good opportunity

1056
00:53:29,827 --> 00:53:32,027
Speaker 13: if everything goes right in the Really, I think we've

1057
00:53:32,067 --> 00:53:34,827
Speaker 13: got a good chance of doing something special as this team.

1058
00:53:34,987 --> 00:53:36,507
Speaker 2: All right, and you've got Saam Tanner with you. I

1059
00:53:36,587 --> 00:53:39,107
Speaker 2: know you've been training with him at various stages to

1060
00:53:39,147 --> 00:53:41,827
Speaker 2: see puts the final preparations on his fifteen hundred meter

1061
00:53:41,827 --> 00:53:44,307
Speaker 2: of preparation to see with you at altitude up there

1062
00:53:44,307 --> 00:53:44,747
Speaker 2: in Andorra.

1063
00:53:45,467 --> 00:53:47,587
Speaker 13: Yeah, he actually just arrived a few days ago with

1064
00:53:47,707 --> 00:53:51,707
Speaker 13: coach Craig, so yeah, he'll be here for another few days.

1065
00:53:51,747 --> 00:53:54,227
Speaker 13: He's had it, but more of a different preparation staying

1066
00:53:54,227 --> 00:53:56,787
Speaker 13: at home for a little bit longer. But yeah, I

1067
00:53:56,787 --> 00:54:00,507
Speaker 13: think he's really pumped to be here. And we did

1068
00:54:00,507 --> 00:54:02,187
Speaker 13: it last year and he was in good shape here

1069
00:54:02,227 --> 00:54:04,987
Speaker 13: and I wish him all the best. And we'll be

1070
00:54:04,987 --> 00:54:08,667
Speaker 13: training side by side and I'll be helping him expand

1071
00:54:08,747 --> 00:54:12,067
Speaker 13: his engine on the run and he would be helping

1072
00:54:12,107 --> 00:54:15,067
Speaker 13: me expand my toping speed. So we really cater for

1073
00:54:15,187 --> 00:54:16,707
Speaker 13: both of both of each other.

1074
00:54:16,707 --> 00:54:18,907
Speaker 2: Outstanding and just to finish if we circle back as

1075
00:54:18,907 --> 00:54:21,547
Speaker 2: we sit here today, Hayden, with the Olympics, you know,

1076
00:54:21,627 --> 00:54:25,867
Speaker 2: starting to loom large overall. Are you where you want

1077
00:54:25,867 --> 00:54:26,867
Speaker 2: to be? How do you feel?

1078
00:54:26,867 --> 00:54:27,027
Speaker 8: Man?

1079
00:54:27,907 --> 00:54:31,147
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've actually really satisfied of where I am. If

1080
00:54:31,187 --> 00:54:34,147
Speaker 13: I was actually talking to a friend a couple of

1081
00:54:34,227 --> 00:54:36,587
Speaker 13: days ago, and you know, if the Olympics was tomorrow

1082
00:54:37,147 --> 00:54:40,147
Speaker 13: and I looked at my prip my builds, I honestly

1083
00:54:40,187 --> 00:54:44,587
Speaker 13: wouldn't change anything. I've been really enjoying the process. I

1084
00:54:44,667 --> 00:54:47,467
Speaker 13: feel super confident in my ability where I am at

1085
00:54:47,507 --> 00:54:50,547
Speaker 13: the moment, and just really happy and just enjoying the

1086
00:54:51,027 --> 00:54:53,627
Speaker 13: training and just enjoying the process and the people around me.

1087
00:54:53,667 --> 00:54:55,827
Speaker 13: And we've got such a great environment up here, and

1088
00:54:56,307 --> 00:54:59,107
Speaker 13: just learning a lot about myself and coming into this

1089
00:54:59,187 --> 00:55:01,747
Speaker 13: and I just don't feel I just don't feel that pressure.

1090
00:55:02,147 --> 00:55:04,987
Speaker 13: I feel there's other athletes in the race that have

1091
00:55:05,027 --> 00:55:06,547
Speaker 13: actually got a lot more prescied than I I have.

1092
00:55:06,667 --> 00:55:10,547
Speaker 13: Like you know, the French have the home, the home

1093
00:55:10,627 --> 00:55:15,347
Speaker 13: nation Christians, the Olympic bronze medallists and the Olympic middalist.

1094
00:55:15,387 --> 00:55:19,227
Speaker 13: Sorry got Tokyo, and I think Alex has got that

1095
00:55:19,347 --> 00:55:22,067
Speaker 13: kind of hot favorite coming into this one. And I

1096
00:55:22,107 --> 00:55:24,827
Speaker 13: just feel like I'm in a great position and just

1097
00:55:24,907 --> 00:55:26,467
Speaker 13: going to be just going to do what I need

1098
00:55:26,467 --> 00:55:27,067
Speaker 13: to do on the day.

1099
00:55:27,387 --> 00:55:30,867
Speaker 2: Exciting times, all the best for the remainder of repreparation. Hayden,

1100
00:55:30,867 --> 00:55:32,387
Speaker 2: thanks for having a chat. We can't wait to see

1101
00:55:32,427 --> 00:55:34,827
Speaker 2: how Paris turns out for you, mate. Thanks for the chat.

1102
00:55:35,187 --> 00:55:36,107
Speaker 13: Yes, thank you.

1103
00:55:36,347 --> 00:55:38,587
Speaker 2: That is Hayden Wild who I spoke to earlier this week.

1104
00:55:38,587 --> 00:55:40,827
Speaker 2: He couldn't chat live to us because he had that

1105
00:55:40,987 --> 00:55:43,067
Speaker 2: race in Bordeaux and the timing was a bit It's

1106
00:55:43,227 --> 00:55:44,667
Speaker 2: for God, but great to get the chance to chat

1107
00:55:44,667 --> 00:55:47,787
Speaker 2: to one of our real gold medal prospects. He really

1108
00:55:47,867 --> 00:55:51,507
Speaker 2: is Bronze and Tokyo. That was probably unexpected and you

1109
00:55:51,507 --> 00:55:54,547
Speaker 2: could even tell I think when he got the bronze medal.

1110
00:55:54,707 --> 00:55:58,587
Speaker 2: You remember that very emotional post race interview that he

1111
00:55:58,627 --> 00:56:02,507
Speaker 2: did having lost his father and just the enormity of

1112
00:56:02,507 --> 00:56:06,587
Speaker 2: what he had achieved. But now fast forward to twenty

1113
00:56:06,627 --> 00:56:09,947
Speaker 2: twenty four and he is an absolute gold medal hope.

1114
00:56:10,187 --> 00:56:13,427
Speaker 2: He and Alex ge have just gone stride for stride

1115
00:56:13,427 --> 00:56:16,547
Speaker 2: in so many different triathlon events over the last two

1116
00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:20,867
Speaker 2: or three years, So yeah, he is absolutely one to watch.

1117
00:56:21,107 --> 00:56:24,587
Speaker 2: Dylan McCulloch is the other male competitor in the men's

1118
00:56:24,627 --> 00:56:28,747
Speaker 2: individual triathlon. Nicole van de Kay and Ainsley Thorpe are

1119
00:56:28,787 --> 00:56:31,947
Speaker 2: in the women's individual. The men's is first, the women's

1120
00:56:31,987 --> 00:56:33,947
Speaker 2: the following day, and then about five days after that

1121
00:56:34,507 --> 00:56:36,947
Speaker 2: it's the team's event and all four of them Dylan McCulloch,

1122
00:56:36,987 --> 00:56:40,027
Speaker 2: Haylen Wild, Nicole Vanderkay and Ainsley Thorpe will line up

1123
00:56:40,067 --> 00:56:42,147
Speaker 2: in the teams event as well, so looking forward to

1124
00:56:42,147 --> 00:56:45,867
Speaker 2: seeing how they go when Paris rolls around. Speaking of Paris,

1125
00:56:45,867 --> 00:56:48,627
Speaker 2: our Road to Paris feature continues after two o'clock today.

1126
00:56:48,987 --> 00:56:52,067
Speaker 2: Natalie Rooney's on the show. She is a silver medallist

1127
00:56:52,547 --> 00:56:55,227
Speaker 2: from twenty sixteen in the women's trap shooting. It is

1128
00:56:55,267 --> 00:56:58,067
Speaker 2: our best ever Olympic result by a key we shooter.

1129
00:56:58,227 --> 00:57:02,547
Speaker 2: So I'll have a chat to Nicole Rooney after two o'clock.

1130
00:57:02,787 --> 00:57:04,707
Speaker 2: But when we come back, we're off to the islands,

1131
00:57:04,747 --> 00:57:08,467
Speaker 2: the Pacific Islands, that is, I said Nicole Rooney. Natalie Rooney,

1132
00:57:08,467 --> 00:57:11,707
Speaker 2: My apologies, Natalie, Natalie Rooney. We're off to the Islands,

1133
00:57:11,747 --> 00:57:15,387
Speaker 2: to Port Villa in Vanuatu. With this afternoon at four

1134
00:57:15,387 --> 00:57:18,187
Speaker 2: o'clock it'll be the All Whites up against Vanuhatu for

1135
00:57:18,267 --> 00:57:22,507
Speaker 2: the Oceania Nations Cup. It's the grand final. Ben Wayne

1136
00:57:22,627 --> 00:57:24,427
Speaker 2: or White striker with us. Right after this.

1137
00:57:25,867 --> 00:57:29,307
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields call oh eight

1138
00:57:29,347 --> 00:57:34,027
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Fine and GJ. Gunderholmes,

1139
00:57:34,227 --> 00:57:37,627
Speaker 1: New Zealand's first trusted home Milder News Talk Baby.

1140
00:57:37,827 --> 00:57:40,067
Speaker 2: One twenty five on the Dot. The All Whites are

1141
00:57:40,107 --> 00:57:44,307
Speaker 2: into the OFC Nations Cup Final. They'll play hosts Vanuatu

1142
00:57:44,347 --> 00:57:48,067
Speaker 2: and Port Villa four o'clock this afternoon. New Zealand Timers kickoff.

1143
00:57:48,067 --> 00:57:51,067
Speaker 2: Striker Ben Wayne is New Zealand's top scorer at the

1144
00:57:51,067 --> 00:57:52,267
Speaker 2: tournament with four.

1145
00:57:52,547 --> 00:57:57,027
Speaker 20: Kacachi Wonderful is broken clear since the class New Zealand

1146
00:57:57,187 --> 00:58:02,267
Speaker 20: four noil Ben Wain second brace for him in this tournament,

1147
00:58:02,987 --> 00:58:03,827
Speaker 20: Ben Waen.

1148
00:58:03,947 --> 00:58:06,307
Speaker 2: Ben Wayne's whether us out of Vanuhatou. Thanks for your time, Ben,

1149
00:58:06,347 --> 00:58:08,787
Speaker 2: And it all seems to have gone to plan really,

1150
00:58:08,867 --> 00:58:11,387
Speaker 2: three nil and four nil wins in Paul Play, a

1151
00:58:11,507 --> 00:58:15,147
Speaker 2: five nil win in the semi final, comfortably into the finals.

1152
00:58:15,187 --> 00:58:17,227
Speaker 2: So how do you assess the way the team's been

1153
00:58:17,227 --> 00:58:18,467
Speaker 2: playing at this tournament so far?

1154
00:58:19,547 --> 00:58:22,947
Speaker 21: I think the best way to describe would be professional.

1155
00:58:23,227 --> 00:58:25,947
Speaker 21: It's never easy to come over here. I mean, I

1156
00:58:26,027 --> 00:58:29,667
Speaker 21: think probably teams so people do assume that it's going

1157
00:58:29,747 --> 00:58:31,267
Speaker 21: to be a walk in the park, but it is

1158
00:58:31,387 --> 00:58:33,787
Speaker 21: never the case. You know, the Island teams put up

1159
00:58:33,787 --> 00:58:36,107
Speaker 21: a really good fight and they have been tough games.

1160
00:58:36,147 --> 00:58:38,387
Speaker 21: I think we've just been we're being clinical and like

1161
00:58:38,427 --> 00:58:41,427
Speaker 21: I said, professional to get the job done.

1162
00:58:41,467 --> 00:58:43,147
Speaker 16: So that's been really really important.

1163
00:58:43,627 --> 00:58:46,667
Speaker 2: New Zealand's taking the lead inside ten minutes in each

1164
00:58:46,667 --> 00:58:49,027
Speaker 2: of the three games. How important has that been to

1165
00:58:49,187 --> 00:58:52,347
Speaker 2: kind of settle any possible nerves and to get off

1166
00:58:52,347 --> 00:58:53,507
Speaker 2: to a good positive start.

1167
00:58:55,107 --> 00:58:56,747
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it is really important.

1168
00:58:56,867 --> 00:58:59,467
Speaker 21: I mean, whether that happens in the final or not,

1169
00:58:59,547 --> 00:59:01,107
Speaker 21: I don't know, but I don't I don't think it

1170
00:59:01,147 --> 00:59:03,707
Speaker 21: matters where we're a good enough team to deal with

1171
00:59:03,747 --> 00:59:06,947
Speaker 21: that without scoring in the first ten minutes. But to

1172
00:59:07,027 --> 00:59:10,107
Speaker 21: do that is I think it just lets the team

1173
00:59:10,147 --> 00:59:13,227
Speaker 21: get into a rhythm early on. And you might, yeah,

1174
00:59:13,227 --> 00:59:14,907
Speaker 21: I might say it takes a little bit of away

1175
00:59:14,907 --> 00:59:18,107
Speaker 21: off everyone's shoulders, but I mean to still put three, four,

1176
00:59:18,187 --> 00:59:20,987
Speaker 21: five away, it's I think it's impressive from a team's

1177
00:59:21,027 --> 00:59:21,587
Speaker 21: point of view.

1178
00:59:22,067 --> 00:59:25,867
Speaker 2: What's it like in terms of conditions being hot and

1179
00:59:25,907 --> 00:59:28,427
Speaker 2: what are the pitchucks? I can TV, but it's always

1180
00:59:28,427 --> 00:59:30,507
Speaker 2: had to tell what are conditions.

1181
00:59:30,187 --> 00:59:33,147
Speaker 16: Like very hot and very humored?

1182
00:59:34,027 --> 00:59:36,787
Speaker 21: To be fair against the HEDI there's a bit of

1183
00:59:36,867 --> 00:59:39,427
Speaker 21: rain and that was just blessing in disguise. That was

1184
00:59:40,347 --> 00:59:44,507
Speaker 21: helped a lot the pictures. Okay, it's a little bit bobby,

1185
00:59:44,627 --> 00:59:48,947
Speaker 21: but better than I thought it would be. But I

1186
00:59:49,027 --> 00:59:51,387
Speaker 21: mean by the end of the tournament, I know there's

1187
00:59:51,387 --> 00:59:53,507
Speaker 21: a game before us, so it could be a little

1188
00:59:53,507 --> 00:59:56,347
Speaker 21: bit a little bit questionable, but that's something we just

1189
00:59:56,427 --> 00:59:57,707
Speaker 21: deal with and it won't be a.

1190
00:59:57,707 --> 01:00:00,987
Speaker 2: Problem personally for you. You're a striker, your currency or

1191
01:00:01,227 --> 01:00:04,067
Speaker 2: you know, big party currency as goals, how pleasing has

1192
01:00:04,107 --> 01:00:05,987
Speaker 2: it been for you to get four of them? In

1193
01:00:06,107 --> 01:00:08,267
Speaker 2: your two games at the tournament so far.

1194
01:00:09,507 --> 01:00:12,987
Speaker 21: Oh, it's been amazing. I've honestly in general just missed

1195
01:00:13,187 --> 01:00:15,267
Speaker 21: playing for New Zealand. It was really really nice to

1196
01:00:15,267 --> 01:00:16,667
Speaker 21: have the opportunity to come out here and play for

1197
01:00:16,707 --> 01:00:18,907
Speaker 21: New Zealand, but to score for your country, you know,

1198
01:00:19,027 --> 01:00:21,187
Speaker 21: it's it's been a while for me, so I've kind

1199
01:00:21,227 --> 01:00:23,787
Speaker 21: of forgotten that feeling, and it's an awesome feeling.

1200
01:00:25,027 --> 01:00:26,707
Speaker 16: But like I said, at the end of the day,

1201
01:00:26,747 --> 01:00:29,187
Speaker 16: it's just good that we're in the final. That's what

1202
01:00:29,267 --> 01:00:30,827
Speaker 16: we're here to do, win a trophy, and you know,

1203
01:00:30,947 --> 01:00:31,787
Speaker 16: let's hope we can do that.

1204
01:00:32,427 --> 01:00:34,427
Speaker 2: Tell us about coming together as a team. You all

1205
01:00:34,507 --> 01:00:36,787
Speaker 2: know each other obviously, but you don't spend a heck

1206
01:00:36,827 --> 01:00:39,187
Speaker 2: of a lot of time together in a footballing sense,

1207
01:00:39,227 --> 01:00:41,627
Speaker 2: and you have a pretty limited build up to tournaments

1208
01:00:41,707 --> 01:00:44,587
Speaker 2: like this. How quickly are you able to re establish

1209
01:00:44,627 --> 01:00:46,827
Speaker 2: connections with one another in a footballing sense.

1210
01:00:48,707 --> 01:00:50,187
Speaker 16: It's pretty easy.

1211
01:00:50,227 --> 01:00:51,907
Speaker 21: With boys I've played with, you know, the well into

1212
01:00:51,947 --> 01:00:54,227
Speaker 21: Phoenix boys, it's really easy to just carry on and

1213
01:00:55,107 --> 01:00:57,427
Speaker 21: get back to playing with them. But I mean it's

1214
01:00:57,787 --> 01:01:00,227
Speaker 21: awesome to meet new people as well here and it

1215
01:01:00,347 --> 01:01:02,347
Speaker 21: takes a training or two or a few meetings. I

1216
01:01:02,387 --> 01:01:04,547
Speaker 21: mean the meetings that we have here I think are

1217
01:01:04,587 --> 01:01:07,307
Speaker 21: really important to help us connect with people that were

1218
01:01:07,387 --> 01:01:10,787
Speaker 21: you know, played with before, but to connect with new

1219
01:01:10,867 --> 01:01:14,427
Speaker 21: people as well. So I think that has just been really,

1220
01:01:14,507 --> 01:01:18,627
Speaker 21: really helpful. And the teams are, you know, really together

1221
01:01:18,667 --> 01:01:20,107
Speaker 21: at the moment, so that's awesome.

1222
01:01:20,467 --> 01:01:24,227
Speaker 2: So van To are your opponents in the in the final?

1223
01:01:24,307 --> 01:01:26,427
Speaker 2: Did you did you half expect fee g to come

1224
01:01:26,507 --> 01:01:27,387
Speaker 2: through from the other Semi?

1225
01:01:29,907 --> 01:01:31,987
Speaker 21: Honestly, I didn't know what to expect from that game.

1226
01:01:32,027 --> 01:01:33,987
Speaker 21: I was really interested. I thought it was going to

1227
01:01:33,987 --> 01:01:36,227
Speaker 21: be a tight game, and that's what it turned out

1228
01:01:36,267 --> 01:01:39,507
Speaker 21: to be. But I mean, Vanuatu in the final against

1229
01:01:39,587 --> 01:01:41,147
Speaker 21: US will be awesome. There's going to be a I

1230
01:01:41,227 --> 01:01:42,907
Speaker 21: can assume there's going to be a big crowd and

1231
01:01:43,427 --> 01:01:44,707
Speaker 21: the atmosphere is going to be good.

1232
01:01:44,787 --> 01:01:46,307
Speaker 16: So I'm really looking forward to it.

1233
01:01:46,627 --> 01:01:49,907
Speaker 2: Obviously, second game against them, how do you put any

1234
01:01:50,227 --> 01:01:54,387
Speaker 2: possibility of complacency to one side having already beaten them comfortably?

1235
01:01:54,467 --> 01:01:55,827
Speaker 2: Four Nilo and Paul play.

1236
01:01:57,387 --> 01:02:00,547
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean it's the same same in any other tournament.

1237
01:02:01,107 --> 01:02:03,467
Speaker 21: Just I mean, you can take confidence from that, don't

1238
01:02:03,467 --> 01:02:04,947
Speaker 21: get me wrong, But at the end of the day

1239
01:02:04,987 --> 01:02:07,307
Speaker 21: when that whistle goes, it's it's knockout football.

1240
01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:10,147
Speaker 16: It's a final game, like anything can happen.

1241
01:02:10,307 --> 01:02:13,587
Speaker 21: So I don't think there'll be any complacency at all

1242
01:02:13,667 --> 01:02:16,067
Speaker 21: from from what I've seen within this group and the

1243
01:02:16,147 --> 01:02:16,867
Speaker 21: coaching stuff.

1244
01:02:17,747 --> 01:02:20,307
Speaker 16: They'll be right right on us and know we'll be

1245
01:02:20,347 --> 01:02:20,747
Speaker 16: ready to go.

1246
01:02:21,147 --> 01:02:23,867
Speaker 2: As you're together in a situation like this, and as

1247
01:02:23,907 --> 01:02:25,867
Speaker 2: I said before, it you don't get together that often,

1248
01:02:25,947 --> 01:02:28,747
Speaker 2: so presumably you discuss a wide range of things when

1249
01:02:28,747 --> 01:02:31,787
Speaker 2: you're together. Are you talking about the World Cup cycle

1250
01:02:32,347 --> 01:02:35,427
Speaker 2: that is ahead and your possible path to the twenty

1251
01:02:35,547 --> 01:02:36,827
Speaker 2: twenty six World Cup?

1252
01:02:38,227 --> 01:02:38,387
Speaker 16: Oh?

1253
01:02:38,587 --> 01:02:42,387
Speaker 21: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think it would be silly

1254
01:02:42,467 --> 01:02:45,427
Speaker 21: not to say that that is major goal to get

1255
01:02:45,467 --> 01:02:47,507
Speaker 21: to a World Cup. And I know that's in the

1256
01:02:47,587 --> 01:02:50,067
Speaker 21: future and we still need we still need to qualify

1257
01:02:50,147 --> 01:02:52,987
Speaker 21: for that, and for now we're focused on winning this trophy.

1258
01:02:53,107 --> 01:02:55,827
Speaker 21: But yeah, that's one hundred percent. There's a there's definitely

1259
01:02:55,867 --> 01:02:58,667
Speaker 21: a plan in place with that being the major target.

1260
01:02:58,787 --> 01:03:01,387
Speaker 21: But to get there, you've got to, you know, take

1261
01:03:01,427 --> 01:03:03,707
Speaker 21: it step by step, and one of these steps is

1262
01:03:03,747 --> 01:03:04,547
Speaker 21: to win this tournament.

1263
01:03:04,987 --> 01:03:07,787
Speaker 2: Is there an internal optimism that you know that that

1264
01:03:08,147 --> 01:03:11,227
Speaker 2: you can do that, that you can qualify for that

1265
01:03:11,347 --> 01:03:12,187
Speaker 2: World Cup in a couple of.

1266
01:03:12,227 --> 01:03:15,387
Speaker 16: Years, one hundred percent. No.

1267
01:03:15,547 --> 01:03:17,427
Speaker 21: I think everyone in the room believes that we can

1268
01:03:17,507 --> 01:03:21,747
Speaker 21: do it. But it's never it's never as easy as

1269
01:03:21,787 --> 01:03:23,467
Speaker 21: just saying it, you know. But I think that's the

1270
01:03:23,707 --> 01:03:26,867
Speaker 21: really important part of all of this planning and these

1271
01:03:27,227 --> 01:03:29,307
Speaker 21: these games that we're taking part and now this tournament

1272
01:03:29,307 --> 01:03:31,147
Speaker 21: that we're playing, and it's it's all part of it,

1273
01:03:31,147 --> 01:03:33,387
Speaker 21: and it's all going to prepare everyone to try and

1274
01:03:33,667 --> 01:03:35,587
Speaker 21: be in the best place we can be, you know,

1275
01:03:35,907 --> 01:03:37,147
Speaker 21: when when that time comes.

1276
01:03:38,147 --> 01:03:40,227
Speaker 2: And again, I know we're only focusing on this tournament,

1277
01:03:40,307 --> 01:03:42,187
Speaker 2: but the Olympics are coming up and less of the month,

1278
01:03:42,787 --> 01:03:45,227
Speaker 2: less than a month rather. The squad's named on Tuesday.

1279
01:03:45,627 --> 01:03:47,667
Speaker 2: I don't think it's any secret to anybody that you'll

1280
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Speaker 2: be in that squad. Are you looking forward to the

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Speaker 2: possibility of playing in Olympic Games in Paris?

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Speaker 21: I mean, to be able to go to Paris and

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Speaker 21: play in my second Olympics would be amazing, and that's

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Speaker 21: what I'm striving to learn. Hopefully, like you said, when

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Speaker 21: that team gets announced, hopefully I'm on that lot. I

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01:04:07,427 --> 01:04:09,147
Speaker 21: think my first one it was a bit of a

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01:04:09,227 --> 01:04:12,507
Speaker 21: shame because Tokyo, you know, there's COVID and whatnot. I

1288
01:04:12,547 --> 01:04:14,707
Speaker 21: didn't feel like a proper Olympics, and I think we

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01:04:14,787 --> 01:04:16,987
Speaker 21: still did really well as the team. But if I

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Speaker 21: get the chance to go again, I think, you know,

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Speaker 21: I really really take him the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to that squad being announced on Tuesday. Plomothard

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Speaker 2: Goals your club. Now, of course you've been there a

1294
01:04:26,787 --> 01:04:28,907
Speaker 2: season and a half. How do you as see your

1295
01:04:28,947 --> 01:04:31,107
Speaker 2: football growth being in your time in the UK?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, no, I've loved it, Don't get me wrong. It's

1297
01:04:35,347 --> 01:04:37,267
Speaker 21: been a it's been a challenge. You know, you move

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Speaker 21: away from home and then the football level. I mean

1299
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Speaker 21: I was, I was in League One for six months

1300
01:04:43,787 --> 01:04:46,467
Speaker 21: and then all of a sudden, I'm playing in the Championship.

1301
01:04:46,547 --> 01:04:48,947
Speaker 21: So you know, there was two massive step ups that

1302
01:04:48,987 --> 01:04:51,507
Speaker 21: I had to had to adjust to, and if I'm

1303
01:04:51,547 --> 01:04:54,227
Speaker 21: being honest, it probably took me at least at least

1304
01:04:54,227 --> 01:04:55,987
Speaker 21: a year of that time I've been away to you

1305
01:04:56,067 --> 01:04:58,987
Speaker 21: know say, actually, i feel like I'm at the level

1306
01:04:58,987 --> 01:05:02,667
Speaker 21: where I'm I'm training well and I'm playing well. So no,

1307
01:05:02,787 --> 01:05:05,507
Speaker 21: I'm just excited to see what happens next. And you know,

1308
01:05:05,667 --> 01:05:07,987
Speaker 21: I'll go back in a few five or six days

1309
01:05:08,027 --> 01:05:10,587
Speaker 21: back to Plymouth and start pre season all over again.

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Speaker 16: I'm looking forward to it.

1311
01:05:11,827 --> 01:05:15,467
Speaker 2: And he got a new boss, Wayne Rooney. How much

1312
01:05:15,547 --> 01:05:18,507
Speaker 2: you're looking forward to coming under his guidance when you

1313
01:05:18,547 --> 01:05:21,787
Speaker 2: get back to the UK. One of England's greatest ever strikers.

1314
01:05:22,187 --> 01:05:26,027
Speaker 21: Yeah, I couldn't believe it, and I mean, yeah, I

1315
01:05:26,187 --> 01:05:28,547
Speaker 21: just I'm just looking forward to being able to pick

1316
01:05:28,587 --> 01:05:30,587
Speaker 21: his brain, to be honest. I mean, well, I think

1317
01:05:30,627 --> 01:05:33,987
Speaker 21: he's Main United's all time top goal scorer or something

1318
01:05:34,067 --> 01:05:36,547
Speaker 21: like that, and he's definitely high up on the England ranks.

1319
01:05:36,587 --> 01:05:39,187
Speaker 21: He might just be behind Harry Kane now, but just

1320
01:05:39,307 --> 01:05:42,227
Speaker 21: the knowledge that he has in the game, and yeah,

1321
01:05:42,307 --> 01:05:46,627
Speaker 21: the way he played in his career, I'm really looking

1322
01:05:46,667 --> 01:05:46,907
Speaker 21: forward to.

1323
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Speaker 16: I don't really know what to say. I'm still a

1324
01:05:48,307 --> 01:05:49,107
Speaker 16: bit shocked, to be honest.

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01:05:49,267 --> 01:05:53,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it'll be something that as a fellow striker,

1326
01:05:53,067 --> 01:05:56,027
Speaker 2: will be extremely helpful to you. When you think about

1327
01:05:56,027 --> 01:05:58,307
Speaker 2: the last you know, eighteen months or or whatever it's

1328
01:05:58,307 --> 01:06:00,907
Speaker 2: been since you left Wellington for your you know, for

1329
01:06:00,987 --> 01:06:04,147
Speaker 2: the next chapters in your career, how different a player

1330
01:06:04,227 --> 01:06:06,947
Speaker 2: do you perceive yourself to be now or are you

1331
01:06:07,107 --> 01:06:09,987
Speaker 2: just doing certain things better? How do you assess the

1332
01:06:10,067 --> 01:06:11,707
Speaker 2: way you are now compared to them.

1333
01:06:13,347 --> 01:06:16,147
Speaker 21: I definitely think there's been a mess of like growing

1334
01:06:16,267 --> 01:06:21,147
Speaker 21: period for me in terms of mentality and probably how

1335
01:06:21,227 --> 01:06:22,107
Speaker 21: the game's played over here.

1336
01:06:22,347 --> 01:06:22,947
Speaker 16: It's different.

1337
01:06:23,027 --> 01:06:27,027
Speaker 21: There's a higher level intensity, you know, there's more physicality.

1338
01:06:27,347 --> 01:06:30,027
Speaker 21: It takes time to adjust and I think even to

1339
01:06:30,347 --> 01:06:32,467
Speaker 21: adjusting when I first signed in the A League, it

1340
01:06:32,547 --> 01:06:34,667
Speaker 21: took me a year to you know, get right to

1341
01:06:34,747 --> 01:06:35,107
Speaker 21: the level.

1342
01:06:35,227 --> 01:06:38,027
Speaker 16: So for me, I'm really happy with where I am

1343
01:06:38,067 --> 01:06:38,387
Speaker 16: at now.

1344
01:06:39,827 --> 01:06:43,067
Speaker 21: Mentally, I'm definitely become stronger when you have to look

1345
01:06:43,107 --> 01:06:45,747
Speaker 21: after yourself and all of that, you know, deal with

1346
01:06:45,907 --> 01:06:48,907
Speaker 21: the ups and downs and there's so many games and whatnot.

1347
01:06:49,427 --> 01:06:51,827
Speaker 21: It's it's definitely helped me a lot, and I think

1348
01:06:51,907 --> 01:06:54,827
Speaker 21: I'm in a good place. So no, I mean, I

1349
01:06:54,947 --> 01:06:57,027
Speaker 21: think I've improved as a player one hundred percent, and

1350
01:06:57,787 --> 01:07:00,187
Speaker 21: the mental aspects of the game as well. I've definitely

1351
01:07:00,307 --> 01:07:01,787
Speaker 21: I've definitely matured a bit.

1352
01:07:01,827 --> 01:07:03,867
Speaker 2: I think, did you get the chance to get home

1353
01:07:03,947 --> 01:07:06,187
Speaker 2: in between the end of the season and hitting off

1354
01:07:06,187 --> 01:07:07,027
Speaker 2: to the Nation's Cup?

1355
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Speaker 8: Yeah? I did.

1356
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Speaker 21: Me and my girlfriend came back for three weeks and

1357
01:07:12,827 --> 01:07:16,667
Speaker 21: surprised mum and dad on the doorsteps. So it was awesome,

1358
01:07:16,827 --> 01:07:19,827
Speaker 21: really nice to come back and I definitely miss New Zealand.

1359
01:07:20,067 --> 01:07:23,147
Speaker 2: Amazing your Phoenix boys did. Okay, did you get manage

1360
01:07:23,147 --> 01:07:24,867
Speaker 2: to keep tabs on the last d League season?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, so I definitely watched. I mean some of the

1362
01:07:27,827 --> 01:07:29,867
Speaker 21: games were at shocking times at three in the morning

1363
01:07:30,027 --> 01:07:32,267
Speaker 21: for me. Yeah, but I mean there was there was

1364
01:07:32,387 --> 01:07:34,067
Speaker 21: four or five that were at you know, seven am

1365
01:07:34,147 --> 01:07:35,707
Speaker 21: a am. And I managed to watch them and to

1366
01:07:35,747 --> 01:07:37,467
Speaker 21: see how well they had done was awesome and I

1367
01:07:37,547 --> 01:07:40,267
Speaker 21: was to be honest, I was gutted that the semi

1368
01:07:40,347 --> 01:07:42,547
Speaker 21: final was so early. I was playing on being back

1369
01:07:42,627 --> 01:07:45,347
Speaker 21: and being back to watch them live. But I managed

1370
01:07:45,387 --> 01:07:48,387
Speaker 21: to watch on the phone and just a real shame that,

1371
01:07:48,627 --> 01:07:50,387
Speaker 21: you know, they didn't make it to the final, but

1372
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Speaker 21: it was just awesome to see.

1373
01:07:52,707 --> 01:07:52,867
Speaker 16: Well.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of finals, you've got one to look forward to

1375
01:07:54,627 --> 01:07:57,547
Speaker 2: in the OFC Nations Cup. All the best against against

1376
01:07:57,587 --> 01:08:00,667
Speaker 2: Manawatu in the final. Ben look forward to to seeing

1377
01:08:00,787 --> 01:08:03,107
Speaker 2: if Paris is your next destination on how you go

1378
01:08:03,227 --> 01:08:06,307
Speaker 2: under Wayne Rooney's guidance in the in the month. Thanks

1379
01:08:06,507 --> 01:08:07,027
Speaker 2: taking the time for.

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Speaker 16: A chat mate, Oh, cheers, pony, thank you very much.

1381
01:08:09,747 --> 01:08:12,027
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Ben Ben Wayne there. Yeah, Wayne

1382
01:08:12,107 --> 01:08:15,987
Speaker 2: Rooney's his new boss. It's that I'm not have mentioned

1383
01:08:16,027 --> 01:08:17,587
Speaker 2: this a couple of weeks ago. Wayne Rooney, it doesn't

1384
01:08:17,587 --> 01:08:20,467
Speaker 2: have a great track record as a manager, it would

1385
01:08:20,507 --> 01:08:22,987
Speaker 2: be fair to say, but one of the all time

1386
01:08:23,067 --> 01:08:25,227
Speaker 2: greats of English football and one of the old time

1387
01:08:25,867 --> 01:08:30,427
Speaker 2: great strikers of modern times. So for Ben Wayne, you know,

1388
01:08:30,787 --> 01:08:33,907
Speaker 2: a striker still in many ways learning has trade to

1389
01:08:33,987 --> 01:08:36,747
Speaker 2: come under the guidance of Wayne Rooney. How good is

1390
01:08:36,747 --> 01:08:39,027
Speaker 2: that going to be for him? So I'll play this

1391
01:08:39,147 --> 01:08:42,187
Speaker 2: afternoon back to the UKRS. You had Ben say four

1392
01:08:42,227 --> 01:08:45,947
Speaker 2: preseason training, but I think we can all assume, without

1393
01:08:45,987 --> 01:08:48,627
Speaker 2: fear of contradiction, that he'll be in the Olympic squad.

1394
01:08:48,867 --> 01:08:51,107
Speaker 2: That's a squad of under twenty three players, of course,

1395
01:08:51,147 --> 01:08:54,747
Speaker 2: with three overage players. Ben Wayne is still under twenty three,

1396
01:08:54,867 --> 01:08:58,547
Speaker 2: so definitely qualifies for that squad named on Tuesday. As

1397
01:08:58,587 --> 01:09:01,107
Speaker 2: I understand it, the second of July is that Tuesday. Yeah,

1398
01:09:01,587 --> 01:09:05,107
Speaker 2: that's when they'll announced the squad, the eighteen strong squad

1399
01:09:05,147 --> 01:09:08,707
Speaker 2: for both the New Zealand men's team and the Football Ferns.

1400
01:09:08,947 --> 01:09:11,787
Speaker 2: That's just a normal senior side. So both of those

1401
01:09:11,827 --> 01:09:17,507
Speaker 2: teams named. On Tuesday on text from Steve No from James,

1402
01:09:17,667 --> 01:09:20,827
Speaker 2: a great interview with Hayden. We take special interest in

1403
01:09:20,947 --> 01:09:23,467
Speaker 2: this fine young man due to his connection to or Corney,

1404
01:09:23,507 --> 01:09:26,107
Speaker 2: where we live. I knew his dad, Andrew, and I

1405
01:09:26,227 --> 01:09:28,227
Speaker 2: know he would be very, very proud of his son.

1406
01:09:28,547 --> 01:09:31,227
Speaker 2: Sending this message from the house that Andrew Wild grew

1407
01:09:31,347 --> 01:09:34,547
Speaker 2: up in, which we now own and live in. Thanks James,

1408
01:09:34,587 --> 01:09:40,467
Speaker 2: brilliant stuff. Yeah, Hayden Wild, Yeah, terrific, terrific, terrific keiwek

1409
01:09:40,787 --> 01:09:43,067
Speaker 2: great human being. Looking forward to seeing how he goes

1410
01:09:43,107 --> 01:09:46,227
Speaker 2: in Paris twenty three, twenty three to two when we

1411
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:48,787
Speaker 2: come back. James mcconey with a bumper edition of his

1412
01:09:48,907 --> 01:09:50,827
Speaker 2: Sunday segment here on Weekend Sport.

1413
01:09:51,107 --> 01:09:56,707
Speaker 1: One Grudge Hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Tame and GJ.

1414
01:09:56,867 --> 01:10:00,147
Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's I was Trusted Homebuilder.

1415
01:09:59,747 --> 01:10:02,987
Speaker 2: News Talk Baby just on nineteen Away from two. James

1416
01:10:03,067 --> 01:10:05,947
Speaker 2: mcconey joins us around this time every Sunday. Although I've

1417
01:10:05,987 --> 01:10:08,227
Speaker 2: come to your slightly early today because I've got a

1418
01:10:08,307 --> 01:10:10,387
Speaker 2: number of questions to ask you, James, you can just

1419
01:10:10,427 --> 01:10:12,107
Speaker 2: add it to your and voice. Is that okay?

1420
01:10:12,787 --> 01:10:15,547
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's fine, But like Jin, you've got some questions

1421
01:10:15,587 --> 01:10:20,627
Speaker 11: on your man, you know, smash mouth, come on, someone

1422
01:10:20,707 --> 01:10:23,867
Speaker 11: please in the library.

1423
01:10:24,187 --> 01:10:27,147
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's part of one of my Spotify playlists.

1424
01:10:27,227 --> 01:10:27,747
Speaker 8: I know it is.

1425
01:10:28,627 --> 01:10:31,667
Speaker 11: That's proof I'm just going to get kicked out of

1426
01:10:31,707 --> 01:10:34,107
Speaker 11: South Auckland, which is where I'm talking to you from XMA.

1427
01:10:35,507 --> 01:10:37,667
Speaker 11: I'm here Pat Toma Hooye Rugby Club. I'm going to

1428
01:10:37,707 --> 01:10:40,067
Speaker 11: be here for a for an event at lunch next

1429
01:10:40,107 --> 01:10:41,507
Speaker 11: weekend next Friday.

1430
01:10:42,107 --> 01:10:44,147
Speaker 2: Excellent. Well you're just scoping the place out.

1431
01:10:44,747 --> 01:10:46,427
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm scoping out. I'd like to have a look

1432
01:10:46,427 --> 01:10:48,827
Speaker 11: around and you know, see see what the what the

1433
01:10:48,867 --> 01:10:50,907
Speaker 11: speakers are like, you know, just to make sure it's

1434
01:10:50,907 --> 01:10:51,667
Speaker 11: all tickety boo.

1435
01:10:52,267 --> 01:10:54,627
Speaker 2: Excellent. Well, while we've got you can I move on

1436
01:10:54,707 --> 01:10:58,827
Speaker 2: to my list of topics, the first of which is unselected.

1437
01:10:58,867 --> 01:11:01,587
Speaker 2: All blacks, or those who might have thought they were

1438
01:11:01,627 --> 01:11:03,987
Speaker 2: in the frame, probably were in the frame for selection

1439
01:11:04,267 --> 01:11:06,147
Speaker 2: in the first all Black squad of the year. Didn't

1440
01:11:06,187 --> 01:11:09,347
Speaker 2: he their names read out earlier this week? So what

1441
01:11:09,587 --> 01:11:12,067
Speaker 2: now for them? And I'll give you a specific example.

1442
01:11:12,467 --> 01:11:16,107
Speaker 2: What does Hoskin Satutu do now, Well.

1443
01:11:16,267 --> 01:11:19,227
Speaker 11: For Hoskins, I think it's going to be tempting to go.

1444
01:11:20,947 --> 01:11:24,587
Speaker 11: He's got options. He could play for Fiji because because

1445
01:11:24,587 --> 01:11:27,667
Speaker 11: of his dad, Wisaki, who could play for England because

1446
01:11:27,707 --> 01:11:29,947
Speaker 11: of his mum. So he qualifies for either and he

1447
01:11:29,987 --> 01:11:32,627
Speaker 11: could be playing for either nation by the end of

1448
01:11:32,707 --> 01:11:35,467
Speaker 11: next year. It means he had missed out on the Lions.

1449
01:11:36,387 --> 01:11:39,467
Speaker 11: Imagine that him turning up in Australia playing for the Lions.

1450
01:11:39,547 --> 01:11:42,147
Speaker 11: But that could be his future. And if you break

1451
01:11:42,227 --> 01:11:45,067
Speaker 11: it down, like his dream was to be an All Black,

1452
01:11:45,147 --> 01:11:46,907
Speaker 11: he became an All Black, but it was also his

1453
01:11:47,027 --> 01:11:49,187
Speaker 11: dream to become a great All Black and that's really

1454
01:11:49,587 --> 01:11:53,627
Speaker 11: you know, to solidify his position now and in a

1455
01:11:53,747 --> 01:11:56,907
Speaker 11: nation of five million that it's still a big deal.

1456
01:11:57,267 --> 01:12:00,307
Speaker 11: And if you break it down even further, says two

1457
01:12:00,427 --> 01:12:04,427
Speaker 11: million rugby fans hard called rugby fans. That's who you're

1458
01:12:04,987 --> 01:12:08,027
Speaker 11: you know, that's who you play if you like. Whereas

1459
01:12:08,747 --> 01:12:10,307
Speaker 11: as soon as you step on that plane and you

1460
01:12:10,387 --> 01:12:14,107
Speaker 11: go overseas, you broaden your horizons and you know you're

1461
01:12:14,147 --> 01:12:18,147
Speaker 11: playing for England, country of sixty million, and maybe that

1462
01:12:18,347 --> 01:12:24,547
Speaker 11: becomes what your perspective. You change your sights and it

1463
01:12:24,747 --> 01:12:27,987
Speaker 11: becomes playing under and listen to the annoying English fans

1464
01:12:28,027 --> 01:12:31,027
Speaker 11: singing Sweeten Swinglows, sweet Chariot, that becomes your life.

1465
01:12:31,707 --> 01:12:32,427
Speaker 2: Do you think he'll go?

1466
01:12:34,467 --> 01:12:34,907
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1467
01:12:35,187 --> 01:12:38,387
Speaker 11: I mean, I know he'd be tempted to stay and

1468
01:12:38,507 --> 01:12:41,187
Speaker 11: prove people wrong, but I don't know. I think at

1469
01:12:41,267 --> 01:12:43,427
Speaker 11: twenty five you could go and have a really great

1470
01:12:43,507 --> 01:12:46,667
Speaker 11: Test career overseas. To me, England would be the landing

1471
01:12:46,707 --> 01:12:50,067
Speaker 11: spot if you really want to go and do something

1472
01:12:50,267 --> 01:12:53,027
Speaker 11: where that you know, they've got a really great Test season,

1473
01:12:53,067 --> 01:12:56,587
Speaker 11: You've got six nations to look forward to. There's nothing

1474
01:12:56,627 --> 01:12:58,907
Speaker 11: wrong with playing for Fiji either, but they just don't

1475
01:12:58,947 --> 01:13:00,987
Speaker 11: have the same test calendar that England have, you know,

1476
01:13:01,147 --> 01:13:04,027
Speaker 11: the Autumn Internationals and all that sort of thing as well,

1477
01:13:04,467 --> 01:13:07,387
Speaker 11: and the potential to play for the Lions. So maybe

1478
01:13:07,467 --> 01:13:11,227
Speaker 11: that would be enough to entice them. But sometimes Kiwi

1479
01:13:11,347 --> 01:13:15,067
Speaker 11: kids have to look elsewhere and get their their motivation

1480
01:13:15,347 --> 01:13:19,267
Speaker 11: or their drive or their you know, reassess their goals.

1481
01:13:20,267 --> 01:13:21,947
Speaker 2: I know that there was a lot of clamor for

1482
01:13:22,067 --> 01:13:24,627
Speaker 2: him to be included after a terrific Super Rugby season.

1483
01:13:24,667 --> 01:13:26,827
Speaker 2: No one's arguing with the way he played for the

1484
01:13:26,867 --> 01:13:29,947
Speaker 2: Blues in a title winning season. But Artie Savia is

1485
01:13:29,987 --> 01:13:32,907
Speaker 2: by daylight the best number eight probably in the world

1486
01:13:33,067 --> 01:13:36,267
Speaker 2: and certainly in New Zealand. So would Hoskins actually have

1487
01:13:36,347 --> 01:13:38,387
Speaker 2: played a lot for the All Blacks anyway in the

1488
01:13:38,427 --> 01:13:38,907
Speaker 2: big games.

1489
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe not, but then you're

1490
01:13:41,787 --> 01:13:46,667
Speaker 11: comparing different players. Artie Savier is an undersized, small number eight,

1491
01:13:46,747 --> 01:13:49,907
Speaker 11: an amazing athlete and that's why he plays big. But

1492
01:13:50,067 --> 01:13:53,827
Speaker 11: then Hoskinstutu, I think at test level, the temptation would

1493
01:13:53,827 --> 01:13:56,747
Speaker 11: better use them because he's just got those other physical

1494
01:13:56,827 --> 01:14:00,067
Speaker 11: tools that we haven't seen at number eight for a

1495
01:14:00,147 --> 01:14:03,467
Speaker 11: while for New Zealand. So look, I think he can

1496
01:14:03,507 --> 01:14:05,427
Speaker 11: play other position. I think he could play at number

1497
01:14:05,507 --> 01:14:10,187
Speaker 11: six as well, but then he's pretty much fashioned himself

1498
01:14:10,227 --> 01:14:15,107
Speaker 11: as a specialist number eight. In a country like England

1499
01:14:15,627 --> 01:14:18,347
Speaker 11: or Fiji, we'red just I'd love to have him, So

1500
01:14:18,907 --> 01:14:21,467
Speaker 11: why not go with somewhere where you're totally in demand

1501
01:14:21,507 --> 01:14:23,387
Speaker 11: and when people would welcome you with open arms.

1502
01:14:23,707 --> 01:14:25,627
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a very good point. We'll wait and

1503
01:14:25,707 --> 01:14:29,667
Speaker 2: see what the next move is for Hoskins Stutu. Over

1504
01:14:29,707 --> 01:14:31,307
Speaker 2: the last week, in fact, over the last four or

1505
01:14:31,347 --> 01:14:34,107
Speaker 2: five days, we've seen the bounce back ability of a

1506
01:14:34,187 --> 01:14:36,747
Speaker 2: couple of rugby league sides. We saw New South Wales

1507
01:14:36,827 --> 01:14:39,747
Speaker 2: reverse what happened in Game one against Queensland in the

1508
01:14:39,787 --> 01:14:42,227
Speaker 2: second game of State of Origin, and then yesterday we

1509
01:14:42,267 --> 01:14:44,867
Speaker 2: saw the Warriors bounce back from a sixty point defeat

1510
01:14:45,227 --> 01:14:47,587
Speaker 2: to beat last year's Grand finalist, albeit without a couple

1511
01:14:47,587 --> 01:14:51,187
Speaker 2: of players the Broncos in reasonable, reasonably comfortable fashion at

1512
01:14:51,227 --> 01:14:54,827
Speaker 2: Mount Smart. So what can we take from this? You know,

1513
01:14:55,067 --> 01:14:57,987
Speaker 2: a team is very good one game and then or

1514
01:14:58,067 --> 01:14:59,747
Speaker 2: not that good one game and then very good the next.

1515
01:14:59,827 --> 01:15:01,267
Speaker 2: What can we take from this?

1516
01:15:02,067 --> 01:15:04,107
Speaker 11: Yeah, I was mugling this over Pineer. I do remember

1517
01:15:04,147 --> 01:15:05,987
Speaker 11: you did a great segment on your radio show with

1518
01:15:06,027 --> 01:15:09,147
Speaker 11: that performance coach from Australia, So maybe you need to

1519
01:15:09,187 --> 01:15:11,987
Speaker 11: get someone with a few bit more expertise than me.

1520
01:15:12,147 --> 01:15:17,627
Speaker 11: But it really piqued my interest because of the massive defeat,

1521
01:15:17,907 --> 01:15:20,547
Speaker 11: the sixty point defeat, and then of course New South

1522
01:15:20,587 --> 01:15:25,947
Speaker 11: Wales really absolutely spanking Queensland, who are considered, you know,

1523
01:15:26,147 --> 01:15:30,867
Speaker 11: the elite team in the sport. Really so I think

1524
01:15:30,907 --> 01:15:34,147
Speaker 11: it just shows the fine margins that anything can upset

1525
01:15:34,227 --> 01:15:38,067
Speaker 11: the apple cart. And if the Warriors just not firing,

1526
01:15:38,507 --> 01:15:41,947
Speaker 11: not finding their mojo over it on the Gold Coast

1527
01:15:42,507 --> 01:15:45,667
Speaker 11: to come back and play that well. Yes, the Brisbane

1528
01:15:45,707 --> 01:15:48,667
Speaker 11: were missing a few stars, but that again points to

1529
01:15:48,667 --> 01:15:51,427
Speaker 11: the fine margins. So for me, as a Chiefs fan,

1530
01:15:51,547 --> 01:15:55,027
Speaker 11: I was so gutted by that Super ABI final. But

1531
01:15:55,067 --> 01:15:57,187
Speaker 11: I look at it and think, well, if you don't

1532
01:15:57,267 --> 01:16:00,147
Speaker 11: have things in place, for example, you two best hookers,

1533
01:16:00,507 --> 01:16:03,187
Speaker 11: if you don't have you know, a great game plan

1534
01:16:03,427 --> 01:16:07,347
Speaker 11: in the wet weather conditions, then everything can snowball against you.

1535
01:16:07,867 --> 01:16:10,387
Speaker 11: And all these teams are so good that they will

1536
01:16:10,467 --> 01:16:13,107
Speaker 11: make you pay time and time again, in the same

1537
01:16:13,147 --> 01:16:16,747
Speaker 11: way that maybe a referee can then effect you and

1538
01:16:17,307 --> 01:16:20,067
Speaker 11: that can decide again. But I think this really says

1539
01:16:20,147 --> 01:16:24,547
Speaker 11: that the fine margins between success and failure, the fine

1540
01:16:24,587 --> 01:16:27,307
Speaker 11: line between pleasure and pain. Piney, you know, have you

1541
01:16:27,387 --> 01:16:27,987
Speaker 11: got that song?

1542
01:16:28,427 --> 01:16:28,627
Speaker 8: I do?

1543
01:16:28,787 --> 01:16:30,627
Speaker 2: I know that song a very fine line. Was it

1544
01:16:30,707 --> 01:16:31,427
Speaker 2: the the Vinyls?

1545
01:16:32,467 --> 01:16:34,227
Speaker 11: Yes? Yeah, I think it was?

1546
01:16:34,787 --> 01:16:38,587
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or did they sing that one about they say

1547
01:16:38,667 --> 01:16:41,667
Speaker 2: I touched myself? Yes, I wonder why I gravitated to

1548
01:16:41,707 --> 01:16:46,027
Speaker 2: that particular artist. I'm not sure. Indeed, Let's move on

1549
01:16:46,187 --> 01:16:48,907
Speaker 2: to some football. The football Funds will be heading to

1550
01:16:48,947 --> 01:16:51,747
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympic Games. But they won't have their head

1551
01:16:51,787 --> 01:16:55,787
Speaker 2: coach Yetka klum Kova has not resigned, but stepped down

1552
01:16:56,027 --> 01:16:59,547
Speaker 2: as coach. Michael Maine, the assistant coach who took them

1553
01:16:59,827 --> 01:17:02,987
Speaker 2: in their recent window against Japan, will again take the

1554
01:17:03,107 --> 01:17:06,867
Speaker 2: reins in Paris. This is a very, very curious situation.

1555
01:17:06,987 --> 01:17:09,467
Speaker 2: I've tried my hardest to get some answers out of

1556
01:17:09,467 --> 01:17:11,027
Speaker 2: New Zealand football and get somebody to come on the

1557
01:17:11,067 --> 01:17:13,427
Speaker 2: air and talk about it. But without any joy, what

1558
01:17:13,547 --> 01:17:14,347
Speaker 2: have you made of all of this?

1559
01:17:15,427 --> 01:17:18,467
Speaker 11: Well, I guess I can only talk about rumored conjecture.

1560
01:17:18,507 --> 01:17:20,907
Speaker 11: But I mean you and I both got I guess,

1561
01:17:21,067 --> 01:17:24,027
Speaker 11: contacts close to the team. I mean I heard that

1562
01:17:24,147 --> 01:17:27,347
Speaker 11: Yitka just lost the dressing room. So that was the situation,

1563
01:17:27,587 --> 01:17:30,147
Speaker 11: And a lot of traditionalists out there will say we'll

1564
01:17:30,147 --> 01:17:33,107
Speaker 11: play powers out of control. But in a situation like this,

1565
01:17:33,267 --> 01:17:36,667
Speaker 11: you've got some people who've probably got more experienced than

1566
01:17:36,787 --> 01:17:40,267
Speaker 11: Yika in the in the sport, and it's quite hard

1567
01:17:40,307 --> 01:17:43,027
Speaker 11: to argue your point when someone's saying, well, I'm getting

1568
01:17:43,027 --> 01:17:46,427
Speaker 11: told something completely different from my club, who's got one

1569
01:17:46,467 --> 01:17:48,907
Speaker 11: of the greatest coaches of all time. So and I

1570
01:17:48,987 --> 01:17:51,907
Speaker 11: think this is where it started to unravel and there

1571
01:17:51,947 --> 01:17:55,387
Speaker 11: were some really bad selections. I feel like even before

1572
01:17:56,547 --> 01:17:58,987
Speaker 11: this came to a head, I think a year ago

1573
01:17:59,107 --> 01:18:02,547
Speaker 11: before the World Cup, was it Mikaela Moore Pony helped

1574
01:18:02,587 --> 01:18:03,227
Speaker 11: me out here.

1575
01:18:03,267 --> 01:18:06,827
Speaker 2: I think it's yes, yes, it wasn't. So what wasn't

1576
01:18:06,827 --> 01:18:08,387
Speaker 2: selected for the World Cup? Yep, yep?

1577
01:18:08,467 --> 01:18:08,667
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1578
01:18:08,707 --> 01:18:11,107
Speaker 11: And I know she's famous for scoring an own a

1579
01:18:11,187 --> 01:18:13,467
Speaker 11: hat trick of own goals, but there was no doubt

1580
01:18:13,507 --> 01:18:15,147
Speaker 11: that she was one of the senior pros and one

1581
01:18:15,187 --> 01:18:18,067
Speaker 11: of the top players in that team. So things like

1582
01:18:18,187 --> 01:18:20,867
Speaker 11: that really started to raise eyebrows. But I think there's

1583
01:18:20,947 --> 01:18:25,147
Speaker 11: more that. I don't think they believe in her coaching philosophy.

1584
01:18:25,227 --> 01:18:28,107
Speaker 11: It's really tough for them to gel in any way.

1585
01:18:28,747 --> 01:18:32,587
Speaker 11: And look, the football fans, they are a tight unit,

1586
01:18:32,787 --> 01:18:36,827
Speaker 11: and I think they've contributed to her downfall.

1587
01:18:36,867 --> 01:18:39,827
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I tend to agree that's the that's the

1588
01:18:39,947 --> 01:18:42,747
Speaker 2: kind of the the Yeah. The guts of the rumors

1589
01:18:42,787 --> 01:18:45,307
Speaker 2: that I hear as well is that there's there's by

1590
01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:47,267
Speaker 2: the sounds of it just been a complete breakdown in

1591
01:18:47,307 --> 01:18:50,747
Speaker 2: communicator or break down in the relationship, sorry, between a

1592
01:18:50,827 --> 01:18:55,147
Speaker 2: cohort of players and their coach. And look, I don't

1593
01:18:55,227 --> 01:18:57,107
Speaker 2: know what you think, but it just doesn't seem to

1594
01:18:57,147 --> 01:18:59,627
Speaker 2: me as though there's any way back now for Yetka

1595
01:18:59,707 --> 01:19:02,227
Speaker 2: Klimkover into this role. I mean, she's been given a

1596
01:19:02,307 --> 01:19:05,027
Speaker 2: six year deal which takes her through to the next

1597
01:19:05,067 --> 01:19:10,187
Speaker 2: World Cup, which in itself is a pretty interesting contract length.

1598
01:19:10,227 --> 01:19:12,107
Speaker 2: But I just don't know that I see your way

1599
01:19:12,147 --> 01:19:12,707
Speaker 2: back for her.

1600
01:19:14,027 --> 01:19:16,307
Speaker 11: Well, the only way back is really for a whole

1601
01:19:16,387 --> 01:19:18,947
Speaker 11: swaye of senior players maybe to leave and then she

1602
01:19:19,027 --> 01:19:21,347
Speaker 11: can work with the with the young ones coming through.

1603
01:19:21,427 --> 01:19:24,147
Speaker 11: But I think this is going to be It's going

1604
01:19:24,227 --> 01:19:26,107
Speaker 11: to be tough, and I think they'll be going through

1605
01:19:26,227 --> 01:19:29,387
Speaker 11: some pretty serious negotiations to work out a way to

1606
01:19:29,547 --> 01:19:33,267
Speaker 11: move forward, because this is a problem with these things.

1607
01:19:33,347 --> 01:19:36,987
Speaker 11: We just don't know how how broken. The relationship is.

1608
01:19:37,147 --> 01:19:40,547
Speaker 11: Obviously pretty bad, but also where the coaching philosophy doesn't

1609
01:19:40,587 --> 01:19:44,827
Speaker 11: deal with with what we you'd say is modern or

1610
01:19:45,187 --> 01:19:47,947
Speaker 11: you know, up to date methods of coaching. That's where

1611
01:19:47,987 --> 01:19:51,667
Speaker 11: I feel like there's really a big divide there, and

1612
01:19:52,867 --> 01:19:54,707
Speaker 11: and it's hard for one person just to sort of

1613
01:19:54,787 --> 01:19:57,707
Speaker 11: call their way back when when the team, especially if

1614
01:19:57,707 --> 01:20:00,667
Speaker 11: the team flourishes without her having said that, they're in

1615
01:20:00,707 --> 01:20:03,987
Speaker 11: a Group of Death over there and the Olympics. So

1616
01:20:04,147 --> 01:20:05,307
Speaker 11: I mean it's going to be tough for them.

1617
01:20:05,627 --> 01:20:07,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, tough to get out

1618
01:20:07,227 --> 01:20:09,067
Speaker 2: of that growth they got. Yeah, they got a real

1619
01:20:09,147 --> 01:20:11,347
Speaker 2: tough time of things. I just want to finish on football,

1620
01:20:11,347 --> 01:20:14,387
Speaker 2: actually the Euros. I watched Germany beat Denmark too neil

1621
01:20:14,427 --> 01:20:18,307
Speaker 2: this morning, and also watched with great interest Switzerland beat Italy.

1622
01:20:18,707 --> 01:20:21,187
Speaker 2: This is a pretty poor Italian side, it must be said,

1623
01:20:21,187 --> 01:20:22,987
Speaker 2: and maybe they're win at the last Euros was a

1624
01:20:22,987 --> 01:20:24,587
Speaker 2: bit of an outline because they haven't been that good

1625
01:20:24,627 --> 01:20:28,387
Speaker 2: for quite a while. Now England plays Slovakia tomorrow morning

1626
01:20:28,467 --> 01:20:31,627
Speaker 2: for the right to take on Switzerland in the quarter finals.

1627
01:20:32,027 --> 01:20:36,667
Speaker 2: England have not exactly reached any great heights at this

1628
01:20:36,747 --> 01:20:39,507
Speaker 2: European Championship. Do you think they're about to to be,

1629
01:20:39,707 --> 01:20:41,987
Speaker 2: you know, to surprise us all with a run to

1630
01:20:42,027 --> 01:20:42,427
Speaker 2: the final?

1631
01:20:43,787 --> 01:20:46,027
Speaker 11: Look I hope. So I've got a soft spot for

1632
01:20:46,067 --> 01:20:49,227
Speaker 11: the England football team and that team alone really on

1633
01:20:49,387 --> 01:20:51,867
Speaker 11: English women's rugby team's kind of cool too, But the

1634
01:20:52,627 --> 01:20:56,387
Speaker 11: issue there is I've crofton splutted through but they have

1635
01:20:56,667 --> 01:21:00,067
Speaker 11: been pretty tight on defense. I'm so worried about their

1636
01:21:00,147 --> 01:21:02,827
Speaker 11: keeper Jordan Pickford, but he hasn't really been called into

1637
01:21:02,867 --> 01:21:05,947
Speaker 11: action much so heets off to the defense and I

1638
01:21:06,027 --> 01:21:08,347
Speaker 11: guess the way they do keep the ball a bit

1639
01:21:08,387 --> 01:21:11,987
Speaker 11: better than previous sides, it still will be tough for them.

1640
01:21:12,227 --> 01:21:17,507
Speaker 11: They haven't found their mojo. It's a strange I guess

1641
01:21:17,827 --> 01:21:21,627
Speaker 11: the way they formed that club, so that team with

1642
01:21:22,227 --> 01:21:25,467
Speaker 11: all eyes on still on Harry Kane, means that they

1643
01:21:25,587 --> 01:21:30,027
Speaker 11: can't really you can't see those other talented players express themselves.

1644
01:21:30,347 --> 01:21:33,467
Speaker 11: The biggest issue for me, though, Piney of the Euros recently,

1645
01:21:33,787 --> 01:21:38,067
Speaker 11: was an incredible yellow card for a guy who passed

1646
01:21:38,107 --> 01:21:40,427
Speaker 11: the ball, put his foot down, what he's onto, what

1647
01:21:40,547 --> 01:21:43,227
Speaker 11: he thought was the ground, and it was the foot

1648
01:21:43,267 --> 01:21:46,547
Speaker 11: of another player, and he got a second yellow and

1649
01:21:46,667 --> 01:21:50,267
Speaker 11: it was a red card. And I just thought, even

1650
01:21:50,307 --> 01:21:53,187
Speaker 11: though we complain about rugby, we complained about league and

1651
01:21:53,267 --> 01:21:57,747
Speaker 11: some of the decisions, football is almost even more broken really,

1652
01:21:57,947 --> 01:22:01,147
Speaker 11: with VARs been called into action for some things and

1653
01:22:01,267 --> 01:22:04,107
Speaker 11: not for others. And then a player simply imagine this,

1654
01:22:04,307 --> 01:22:07,467
Speaker 11: passing the ball, puts his foot down and another player's

1655
01:22:07,827 --> 01:22:10,347
Speaker 11: appears underneath it. I mean, I guess that's how you

1656
01:22:10,827 --> 01:22:16,747
Speaker 11: me and or MESSI send off now stepping underneath them.

1657
01:22:17,627 --> 01:22:20,307
Speaker 2: Yes, just put your foot where you suspect his foot

1658
01:22:20,547 --> 01:22:21,227
Speaker 2: will be next.

1659
01:22:21,307 --> 01:22:23,067
Speaker 22: And that's it.

1660
01:22:24,147 --> 01:22:27,747
Speaker 2: I can report that pleasure and pain was performed by

1661
01:22:27,827 --> 01:22:30,827
Speaker 2: the the Vinyls. So I think we can. We can

1662
01:22:30,907 --> 01:22:33,987
Speaker 2: finish there. Unless there's anything else you'd like to take up.

1663
01:22:35,347 --> 01:22:38,387
Speaker 11: No, I don't want anybody else. When I think about you, Poney,

1664
01:22:38,627 --> 01:22:41,027
Speaker 11: I touch myself. So thank you very much for that.

1665
01:22:41,267 --> 01:22:46,987
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm out, Okay, thank you, James. A good

1666
01:22:47,067 --> 01:22:48,707
Speaker 2: time to leave it. I think six and a half

1667
01:22:48,787 --> 01:22:49,867
Speaker 2: to two News Talks.

1668
01:22:49,747 --> 01:22:54,347
Speaker 1: NB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

1669
01:22:54,547 --> 01:22:56,827
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason ye.

1670
01:22:59,067 --> 01:23:02,267
Speaker 2: Talk just on three and a half to two. After

1671
01:23:02,347 --> 01:23:05,747
Speaker 2: two o'clock our road to Paris feature continues our best

1672
01:23:05,787 --> 01:23:09,947
Speaker 2: ever olymp shooting result Natalie Rooney in twenty sixteen. She's

1673
01:23:10,027 --> 01:23:10,947
Speaker 2: with us after two.

1674
01:23:11,947 --> 01:23:16,147
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1675
01:23:16,907 --> 01:23:21,787
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1676
01:23:21,947 --> 01:23:25,707
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport.

1677
01:23:26,187 --> 01:23:27,307
Speaker 1: News Talks had been.

1678
01:23:28,987 --> 01:23:31,907
Speaker 2: Two o seven. Welcome back in This is Weekend Sport

1679
01:23:31,987 --> 01:23:34,747
Speaker 2: until three. Then Tim Beverbridge takes over with the Sunday

1680
01:23:35,267 --> 01:23:39,787
Speaker 2: installment of the Weekend Collective. I'm Jason Pine, Mark Kelly alongside.

1681
01:23:39,947 --> 01:23:41,427
Speaker 2: As I say, we're here for another hour or so.

1682
01:23:41,827 --> 01:23:45,747
Speaker 2: Our Road to Paris feature continues shortly with Natalie Rooney,

1683
01:23:46,267 --> 01:23:50,387
Speaker 2: who in twenty sixteen achieved our best ever Olympic shooting

1684
01:23:50,467 --> 01:23:53,947
Speaker 2: results silver in the trap. She's with us to reminisce

1685
01:23:53,947 --> 01:23:56,187
Speaker 2: a bit about that. She also was selected in twenty

1686
01:23:56,307 --> 01:23:59,547
Speaker 2: twelve for the Olympics but didn't end up going, and

1687
01:23:59,667 --> 01:24:03,467
Speaker 2: it was quite a controversial decision at the time. Will

1688
01:24:03,707 --> 01:24:06,707
Speaker 2: unpack that with Natalie Rooney shortly. Adam Peak is our

1689
01:24:06,747 --> 01:24:10,667
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent on Weekend Sport. Normally he's on a Saturday.

1690
01:24:10,747 --> 01:24:12,947
Speaker 2: Yesterday we couldn't fit him in. We bumped him for

1691
01:24:12,987 --> 01:24:15,347
Speaker 2: the All Blacks coach. So I suggested to him that

1692
01:24:15,427 --> 01:24:18,267
Speaker 2: perhaps we could talk Australian Sport today, which he agreed to.

1693
01:24:18,507 --> 01:24:21,267
Speaker 2: So we'll do that. This out your causing correspondents continue

1694
01:24:21,267 --> 01:24:23,547
Speaker 2: to be welcome at any time, oh eight hundred and

1695
01:24:23,587 --> 01:24:26,147
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty or nine two ninety two if you

1696
01:24:26,187 --> 01:24:28,787
Speaker 2: would prefer to correspond by text. But as we approach

1697
01:24:29,347 --> 01:24:31,587
Speaker 2: seven and a half past two, as we always do,

1698
01:24:31,667 --> 01:24:34,347
Speaker 2: it around about this time that music can only mean

1699
01:24:34,427 --> 01:24:37,387
Speaker 2: one thing. It's time to catch you up on the

1700
01:24:37,467 --> 01:24:39,227
Speaker 2: things you might have missed in case you missed it

1701
01:24:39,307 --> 01:24:42,707
Speaker 2: on weekend sports. Let's start with stage one of the

1702
01:24:42,787 --> 01:24:47,747
Speaker 2: Tour de France. Veteran cyclist Roman bad Day has claimed

1703
01:24:47,787 --> 01:24:51,507
Speaker 2: the first yellow jersey of the tour, attacking fifty kilometers

1704
01:24:51,547 --> 01:24:54,947
Speaker 2: from the line on the road from Florence to Elimini,

1705
01:24:55,347 --> 01:24:56,187
Speaker 2: two hundred and.

1706
01:24:56,347 --> 01:24:59,747
Speaker 4: Fifty meters to go, Roman Bye Day Lex it is

1707
01:24:59,827 --> 01:25:03,667
Speaker 4: teammates now they just need to spread. The paloton are

1708
01:25:03,787 --> 01:25:06,947
Speaker 4: a matter of a few meters by, but it's a

1709
01:25:07,187 --> 01:25:08,667
Speaker 4: far day blockbuster.

1710
01:25:09,267 --> 01:25:11,147
Speaker 2: Stage one fast.

1711
01:25:10,907 --> 01:25:12,987
Speaker 4: Over yellow jersey for the Frenchman.

1712
01:25:13,347 --> 01:25:16,267
Speaker 2: The breakaway makes it yeah by Day crossing the line

1713
01:25:16,267 --> 01:25:21,027
Speaker 2: alongside teammate Frank Vanderbrook five seconds ahead of the chasing peloton.

1714
01:25:22,227 --> 01:25:24,667
Speaker 2: One of the greatest catches of all time has helped

1715
01:25:24,747 --> 01:25:27,827
Speaker 2: India to a seven run win over South Africa in

1716
01:25:27,947 --> 01:25:31,747
Speaker 2: the T twenty Cricket World Cup Final in Barbados. Why

1717
01:25:32,307 --> 01:25:35,387
Speaker 2: Mona gets it and he gets plenty of a jersey.

1718
01:25:39,907 --> 01:25:40,707
Speaker 5: I don't believe it.

1719
01:25:40,747 --> 01:25:42,507
Speaker 14: I've just seen athleticism and.

1720
01:25:42,587 --> 01:25:43,827
Speaker 16: It's very very best.

1721
01:25:45,107 --> 01:25:50,347
Speaker 2: That's quite an incredible moment. Folks, you won't believe well,

1722
01:25:50,427 --> 01:25:51,187
Speaker 2: you've just seen.

1723
01:25:51,907 --> 01:25:54,347
Speaker 12: It is just the best piece of skull I think

1724
01:25:54,427 --> 01:25:55,107
Speaker 12: I've ever.

1725
01:25:55,027 --> 01:25:57,267
Speaker 2: Seen in the game of cricket. Chasing one hundred and

1726
01:25:57,307 --> 01:25:59,627
Speaker 2: seventy seven for their first ever white ball title, the

1727
01:25:59,747 --> 01:26:01,987
Speaker 2: pro tear is rocked in the final over by that

1728
01:26:02,147 --> 01:26:07,307
Speaker 2: scarcely believable catch on the boundary by Sarah Kumar Yadav

1729
01:26:07,867 --> 01:26:11,627
Speaker 2: denying a six and dismissing the dangerous David Miller, India

1730
01:26:12,027 --> 01:26:15,387
Speaker 2: winning by seven runs. To the NRL, the Knights face

1731
01:26:15,467 --> 01:26:17,947
Speaker 2: the Eels and a Newcastle nail by the last night.

1732
01:26:18,027 --> 01:26:20,907
Speaker 2: They lead just twenty eight twenty six, with a minute

1733
01:26:20,947 --> 01:26:23,347
Speaker 2: to go and Parramatta in possession.

1734
01:26:23,547 --> 01:26:24,627
Speaker 7: Gufferson with a pull.

1735
01:26:24,907 --> 01:26:27,347
Speaker 2: He's gotta be hurt. He checked it alone. But the

1736
01:26:27,467 --> 01:26:28,747
Speaker 2: darts who carried.

1737
01:26:32,107 --> 01:26:36,627
Speaker 8: Pass on his way Hello on the Jon, stand on

1738
01:26:36,827 --> 01:26:40,067
Speaker 8: his back and you know what, and he's strong enough

1739
01:26:40,147 --> 01:26:41,067
Speaker 8: to carry them all.

1740
01:26:41,747 --> 01:26:43,227
Speaker 22: Parabo forgot that.

1741
01:26:43,347 --> 01:26:45,907
Speaker 2: A win here Bradman bears scoring late together. The Knights

1742
01:26:45,947 --> 01:26:47,027
Speaker 2: are thirty four to twenty six.

1743
01:26:47,107 --> 01:26:47,227
Speaker 8: Win.

1744
01:26:47,387 --> 01:26:50,987
Speaker 2: Meantime, the Storm beat the Raiders sixteen to six in Melbourne,

1745
01:26:51,027 --> 01:26:53,627
Speaker 2: all the scoring in the first fifty one minutes of

1746
01:26:53,667 --> 01:26:56,347
Speaker 2: the game, the Storm opening up a four point lead

1747
01:26:56,387 --> 01:26:58,787
Speaker 2: at the top, Humes calling the shots.

1748
01:26:58,667 --> 01:27:01,787
Speaker 3: On a gost to Howard muscles his way over Cha

1749
01:27:02,267 --> 01:27:05,747
Speaker 3: with Kenstrop and he gets his first career.

1750
01:27:05,667 --> 01:27:08,867
Speaker 2: Try the Mari. All Blacks have overcome limited preparation to

1751
01:27:08,947 --> 01:27:12,627
Speaker 2: beat at Japan fifteen thirty sixteen in Tokyo, six tries

1752
01:27:12,707 --> 01:27:15,347
Speaker 2: to two. Here's their skipper, Billy Harmon, on the style

1753
01:27:15,427 --> 01:27:17,427
Speaker 2: that their Japanese opponents brought to the game.

1754
01:27:17,587 --> 01:27:20,467
Speaker 4: It was fast, it was detailed and you can tell

1755
01:27:20,467 --> 01:27:21,907
Speaker 4: they've really leveled up from last year.

1756
01:27:21,987 --> 01:27:25,107
Speaker 2: So awesome for them and I hope they keep continuing.

1757
01:27:25,547 --> 01:27:29,307
Speaker 2: A very rare visit to Gaelic football, where Galway have

1758
01:27:29,467 --> 01:27:33,707
Speaker 2: blown the All Ireland Senior Football Championship wide open with

1759
01:27:33,867 --> 01:27:38,307
Speaker 2: a remarkable come from behind went Overholders Dublin at Croke Park,

1760
01:27:38,947 --> 01:27:43,067
Speaker 2: securing a shock semi final place and prompting one of

1761
01:27:43,147 --> 01:27:46,667
Speaker 2: the best pieces of commentary of the year. Have a

1762
01:27:46,787 --> 01:27:47,267
Speaker 2: listened to this.

1763
01:27:49,307 --> 01:27:53,587
Speaker 15: God, everyone, mister graces dam the gone with football, the

1764
01:27:53,707 --> 01:28:00,667
Speaker 15: scene and only two decades everybody child starts to approad.

1765
01:28:01,267 --> 01:28:05,787
Speaker 23: Barry Joyce, I'm his color, gone with it, sweet bother

1766
01:28:05,947 --> 01:28:06,667
Speaker 23: of gesus.

1767
01:28:06,987 --> 01:28:08,027
Speaker 2: They have pulled up.

1768
01:28:08,467 --> 01:28:12,347
Speaker 23: They n think of a forget about Taylor Swift shaken

1769
01:28:12,467 --> 01:28:13,347
Speaker 23: off with the a feva.

1770
01:28:13,667 --> 01:28:17,747
Speaker 15: They come over here to twelve because you're witnessing the

1771
01:28:17,867 --> 01:28:18,587
Speaker 15: west Wee.

1772
01:28:19,227 --> 01:28:23,907
Speaker 2: Dahlia of one of the great and finally to the

1773
01:28:23,947 --> 01:28:27,507
Speaker 2: European Football Championship. We have our first two quarter finalists,

1774
01:28:27,907 --> 01:28:31,947
Speaker 2: Switzerland stunning defending champions Italy. They led, won the little

1775
01:28:31,987 --> 01:28:37,067
Speaker 2: half time and then double their lead. Fuckers beauty that

1776
01:28:37,307 --> 01:28:38,987
Speaker 2: is a Swiss diamand.

1777
01:28:39,907 --> 01:28:43,707
Speaker 20: Barely half a minute into the second half and they

1778
01:28:43,907 --> 01:28:48,507
Speaker 20: have climbed most of the mountain into the quarter.

1779
01:28:48,387 --> 01:28:51,427
Speaker 2: Finals and joined there by Germany who beat den Mark

1780
01:28:51,467 --> 01:28:54,987
Speaker 2: tonill to chase from Mussiela. Muciana is going to get

1781
01:28:55,027 --> 01:28:55,987
Speaker 2: there with rochters fur.

1782
01:28:58,187 --> 01:28:58,707
Speaker 4: Turned out.

1783
01:28:59,587 --> 01:29:02,627
Speaker 20: It's a beautiful finish simn aleicant player.

1784
01:29:06,507 --> 01:29:09,467
Speaker 2: And it might just pay to Danish huts.

1785
01:29:09,187 --> 01:29:10,227
Speaker 22: In this match tonight.

1786
01:29:11,787 --> 01:29:13,827
Speaker 2: New Zealand and the home straight.

1787
01:29:16,267 --> 01:29:17,587
Speaker 14: Jeewe's have won all.

1788
01:29:21,467 --> 01:29:21,907
Speaker 19: Weekends.

1789
01:29:21,987 --> 01:29:24,267
Speaker 10: Fourth Road to Paris twenty.

1790
01:29:24,107 --> 01:29:24,747
Speaker 5: Twenty four.

1791
01:29:26,187 --> 01:29:29,027
Speaker 2: At the Paris Olympic Games are drawing ever closer, and

1792
01:29:29,147 --> 01:29:31,587
Speaker 2: as we travel the road to Paris, we're looking back

1793
01:29:31,667 --> 01:29:34,907
Speaker 2: on some of the great Olympic moments from games past.

1794
01:29:35,107 --> 01:29:38,587
Speaker 2: New Zealand's best ever Olympic shooting result came in twenty

1795
01:29:38,667 --> 01:29:42,747
Speaker 2: sixteen at Rio, when Natalie Rooney won silver in the trap.

1796
01:29:43,187 --> 01:29:46,947
Speaker 2: Having competed internationally since two thousand and six, she was

1797
01:29:47,027 --> 01:29:50,347
Speaker 2: fifth at the twenty ten Deli Commonwealth Games and fourth

1798
01:29:50,467 --> 01:29:54,427
Speaker 2: at the twenty fourteen Glasgow Commonwealth Games. At the Rio Olympics,

1799
01:29:54,627 --> 01:29:58,307
Speaker 2: she successfully negotiated a shoot off to reach the final,

1800
01:29:58,627 --> 01:30:02,787
Speaker 2: where she won silver, beaten narrowly by Australian Catherine Skinner.

1801
01:30:03,067 --> 01:30:05,987
Speaker 2: The following year, Natalie Rooney claimed the number one world

1802
01:30:06,107 --> 01:30:09,467
Speaker 2: rank in trap shooting. She also competed at the Tokyo

1803
01:30:09,547 --> 01:30:14,107
Speaker 2: Olympic Games, where she placed eleventh. Natalie Rooney is with us. Natalie,

1804
01:30:14,107 --> 01:30:16,627
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time to wander down memory lane

1805
01:30:16,627 --> 01:30:19,707
Speaker 2: of it back to twenty sixteen. What stands out most

1806
01:30:19,787 --> 01:30:23,507
Speaker 2: vividly when you remember back to to Rio twenty sixteen.

1807
01:30:25,427 --> 01:30:31,867
Speaker 24: Obviously winning silver, which was pretty pretty amazing, and really

1808
01:30:32,027 --> 01:30:36,347
Speaker 24: just the experience. I've been to a couple of comm

1809
01:30:36,427 --> 01:30:41,707
Speaker 24: Weth Games, but the Olympics just like this next level

1810
01:30:42,147 --> 01:30:47,987
Speaker 24: and just being in that New Zealand team, it's such

1811
01:30:48,067 --> 01:30:53,187
Speaker 24: a special special thing to be part of and just

1812
01:30:54,067 --> 01:30:57,587
Speaker 24: being in awe of all the athletes that you're surrounded by.

1813
01:30:57,667 --> 01:31:01,587
Speaker 2: Really tell us about the shoot off to reach the

1814
01:31:01,707 --> 01:31:04,267
Speaker 2: gold medal match. How did the whole in fact take

1815
01:31:04,307 --> 01:31:06,507
Speaker 2: us back? How did the whole competition play out up

1816
01:31:06,547 --> 01:31:07,907
Speaker 2: to the shoot off, and then we can talk about

1817
01:31:07,947 --> 01:31:08,307
Speaker 2: the final.

1818
01:31:09,347 --> 01:31:15,667
Speaker 24: Yep, I it was so long ago now, that so

1819
01:31:15,947 --> 01:31:18,547
Speaker 24: back when I was back in two thousand and sixteen.

1820
01:31:18,587 --> 01:31:22,187
Speaker 24: I've changed our program quite a few times since then,

1821
01:31:23,707 --> 01:31:27,107
Speaker 24: but that back then, we only shot one day for ladies,

1822
01:31:27,907 --> 01:31:31,987
Speaker 24: and we were shooting twenty five, three rounds of twenty

1823
01:31:32,027 --> 01:31:37,867
Speaker 24: five out of seventy five targets. And for me, I

1824
01:31:38,107 --> 01:31:42,147
Speaker 24: just remember waking up that day and knowing I'm ready

1825
01:31:42,187 --> 01:31:46,507
Speaker 24: to go, which is quite a good day really when

1826
01:31:46,547 --> 01:31:48,467
Speaker 24: you wake up and you're like, yep, I'm ready to go.

1827
01:31:50,107 --> 01:31:54,227
Speaker 24: And yeah, everything went pretty smoothly until my last round

1828
01:31:54,267 --> 01:31:56,587
Speaker 24: of competition, and there was a bit of like a

1829
01:31:58,707 --> 01:32:01,107
Speaker 24: windstorm that kind of came through when I was shooting,

1830
01:32:02,107 --> 01:32:06,707
Speaker 24: which I ended up missing a few targets, putting a

1831
01:32:06,787 --> 01:32:09,987
Speaker 24: bit more pressure on me because leading into that round,

1832
01:32:10,067 --> 01:32:13,427
Speaker 24: I was probably placed about second or third, I think,

1833
01:32:14,107 --> 01:32:17,507
Speaker 24: and yeah, and then the wind came through, I missed

1834
01:32:17,547 --> 01:32:19,907
Speaker 24: a few targets which put quite a lot of pressure

1835
01:32:19,947 --> 01:32:24,507
Speaker 24: on me, but managed to give through to the final. Luckily.

1836
01:32:24,587 --> 01:32:26,867
Speaker 24: I think I made it through in like fourth place

1837
01:32:26,987 --> 01:32:31,987
Speaker 24: or something like that. Yeah, and then final, the final,

1838
01:32:32,027 --> 01:32:34,707
Speaker 24: which is top six of the competition make it through

1839
01:32:34,787 --> 01:32:40,587
Speaker 24: to the final, And I just remember I was so

1840
01:32:40,747 --> 01:32:44,387
Speaker 24: ready for that final. I had spent two months prior

1841
01:32:45,187 --> 01:32:49,907
Speaker 24: over in Ashley training with my coach, and yeah, that

1842
01:32:50,107 --> 01:32:54,547
Speaker 24: training all just really came into practice and I was

1843
01:32:54,627 --> 01:32:58,947
Speaker 24: so ready for it. And yeah came what I shot

1844
01:32:59,227 --> 01:33:02,147
Speaker 24: thirteen out of fifteen I think in this single barrel.

1845
01:33:02,347 --> 01:33:06,187
Speaker 24: When you come to the final and had to shoot

1846
01:33:06,227 --> 01:33:11,987
Speaker 24: off against Corey Godrill from the USA to make it

1847
01:33:12,067 --> 01:33:17,107
Speaker 24: into the final, I want Gold Beetle match, So yeah,

1848
01:33:17,747 --> 01:33:18,787
Speaker 24: shooting extremely well?

1849
01:33:19,227 --> 01:33:22,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean silver medal beast ever result by

1850
01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:24,467
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Should I think you actually even lad in

1851
01:33:24,507 --> 01:33:28,867
Speaker 2: the final, didn't you? It was eventually a thriller twelve eleven. Yeah,

1852
01:33:29,547 --> 01:33:31,347
Speaker 2: how close did you feel to winning that gold?

1853
01:33:32,347 --> 01:33:32,587
Speaker 22: It was?

1854
01:33:32,867 --> 01:33:34,387
Speaker 24: It was very very close.

1855
01:33:34,507 --> 01:33:34,707
Speaker 16: It was.

1856
01:33:36,147 --> 01:33:40,147
Speaker 24: I just I think in that last gold Beetle match,

1857
01:33:40,227 --> 01:33:46,667
Speaker 24: I actually dropped two lots of till in a row

1858
01:33:46,707 --> 01:33:51,147
Speaker 24: I remember, which just really came down to the nerves.

1859
01:33:51,707 --> 01:33:56,067
Speaker 24: That was all really, I was shooting so well. But yeah,

1860
01:33:56,827 --> 01:34:01,907
Speaker 24: shooting is such a huge mental game. And yeah it

1861
01:34:02,067 --> 01:34:03,707
Speaker 24: kind of fouled me a little bit on the end,

1862
01:34:03,787 --> 01:34:07,867
Speaker 24: but I can't really complain. Walking away was still the middle.

1863
01:34:08,107 --> 01:34:10,347
Speaker 2: Absolutely. When you talk about it being a mental game,

1864
01:34:10,867 --> 01:34:12,947
Speaker 2: just just unpack that for us. What how do you

1865
01:34:13,067 --> 01:34:16,347
Speaker 2: feel when you're shooting really really well? Is it just

1866
01:34:16,387 --> 01:34:17,867
Speaker 2: a serenity that comes over you.

1867
01:34:19,227 --> 01:34:23,187
Speaker 24: Yeah, you're kind of in this like No, it's like

1868
01:34:23,227 --> 01:34:28,347
Speaker 24: a real flow state where you're everything is, you know,

1869
01:34:29,147 --> 01:34:34,067
Speaker 24: working really well. You're because once you've got the skill

1870
01:34:34,187 --> 01:34:37,947
Speaker 24: down and you train and train and train, it's all

1871
01:34:37,947 --> 01:34:43,147
Speaker 24: about red repetitions and making sure everything is working perfectly.

1872
01:34:43,227 --> 01:34:46,867
Speaker 24: And when that actually happens, it's an amazing feeling. And

1873
01:34:47,667 --> 01:34:51,587
Speaker 24: it's not as if you're even trying. And yeah, so

1874
01:34:52,227 --> 01:34:57,427
Speaker 24: so that to actually happen it's very rare. So yeah,

1875
01:34:57,707 --> 01:35:01,067
Speaker 24: it's it's quite a it's an awesome feeling to happen,

1876
01:35:01,147 --> 01:35:02,387
Speaker 24: but it doesn't happen very often.

1877
01:35:03,547 --> 01:35:04,907
Speaker 2: How did you get into the sport.

1878
01:35:06,587 --> 01:35:10,747
Speaker 24: Family. I've got three brothers and a dad that all

1879
01:35:11,587 --> 01:35:15,947
Speaker 24: had shot, not all shooting at the moment, but they

1880
01:35:16,627 --> 01:35:20,027
Speaker 24: we grew up shooting. Really my older brother Sam, he

1881
01:35:20,107 --> 01:35:23,667
Speaker 24: got us all into it. He was born as Spina visita,

1882
01:35:24,467 --> 01:35:27,147
Speaker 24: but absolutely loved sport and that was kind of the

1883
01:35:27,227 --> 01:35:30,907
Speaker 24: sport that he started at school and then from there

1884
01:35:31,027 --> 01:35:32,307
Speaker 24: we all kind of followed along.

1885
01:35:33,627 --> 01:35:36,467
Speaker 2: And there were several different disciplines in the sport of shooting,

1886
01:35:36,467 --> 01:35:38,427
Speaker 2: aren't they. How did you settle on trap shooting?

1887
01:35:40,267 --> 01:35:44,707
Speaker 24: That was really what we did. We mainly did trap shooting.

1888
01:35:45,267 --> 01:35:48,067
Speaker 24: There's we started with what we called down the line,

1889
01:35:48,387 --> 01:35:52,587
Speaker 24: which is like an easier version, and it wasn't until

1890
01:35:52,827 --> 01:35:56,387
Speaker 24: I was eighteen, I think that I got selected for

1891
01:35:56,547 --> 01:36:00,907
Speaker 24: a team from the school shooting to do a Youth

1892
01:36:00,987 --> 01:36:05,307
Speaker 24: Olympic Games over in Sydney, and from there that was

1893
01:36:05,347 --> 01:36:08,427
Speaker 24: my first taste of what we call i w cfield

1894
01:36:08,507 --> 01:36:12,987
Speaker 24: or the Olympic trap. So from there that's what I

1895
01:36:13,107 --> 01:36:16,787
Speaker 24: started doing, the Olympic trap, and yeah, I just got

1896
01:36:16,827 --> 01:36:20,467
Speaker 24: that taste and wanted more and wanted that challenge.

1897
01:36:21,387 --> 01:36:24,347
Speaker 2: Of course, four years before Rio, the New Zealand Shooting

1898
01:36:24,387 --> 01:36:27,827
Speaker 2: Federation nominated you as their sole competitor for London twenty twelve,

1899
01:36:28,427 --> 01:36:31,147
Speaker 2: but then prime rifle shetter Ryan Taylor appealed to the

1900
01:36:31,187 --> 01:36:34,907
Speaker 2: sports tribunal had the decision overturned in his favor. How

1901
01:36:34,987 --> 01:36:37,067
Speaker 2: difficult a time was that for you being selected and

1902
01:36:37,147 --> 01:36:38,547
Speaker 2: then being unselected?

1903
01:36:39,987 --> 01:36:41,667
Speaker 24: Yeah, that was very tough.

1904
01:36:43,147 --> 01:36:44,027
Speaker 19: Yeah it was.

1905
01:36:44,307 --> 01:36:46,787
Speaker 24: It wasn't an easy time, but it kind of worked

1906
01:36:46,827 --> 01:36:51,667
Speaker 24: in like in hindsight, it's worked in my favor. Like

1907
01:36:52,667 --> 01:36:55,187
Speaker 24: if I'd gone to those games, I don't know if

1908
01:36:55,227 --> 01:36:56,907
Speaker 24: I would have been in the position that I was

1909
01:36:57,107 --> 01:37:01,987
Speaker 24: for Reo. Yeah, it's kind of It's a tricky one

1910
01:37:02,067 --> 01:37:07,987
Speaker 24: because that non selection in the end drove me harder,

1911
01:37:08,587 --> 01:37:11,787
Speaker 24: like and made me recist what I was doing and

1912
01:37:12,947 --> 01:37:16,267
Speaker 24: want to be Like I like, I set that goal

1913
01:37:16,347 --> 01:37:18,347
Speaker 24: that I had to be at that next Olympics, then

1914
01:37:19,027 --> 01:37:22,027
Speaker 24: what was going to get me there? And that got

1915
01:37:22,067 --> 01:37:26,587
Speaker 24: me to change what I was doing, head over to Italy,

1916
01:37:26,827 --> 01:37:31,867
Speaker 24: get my coach and yeah, really nail it down and

1917
01:37:32,867 --> 01:37:36,587
Speaker 24: it definitely works. So you know, if I had gone

1918
01:37:36,627 --> 01:37:39,707
Speaker 24: to London, I don't know as much it would have changed.

1919
01:37:40,547 --> 01:37:42,827
Speaker 24: So I'm quite in thean thankful for that.

1920
01:37:42,987 --> 01:37:45,347
Speaker 2: Really tell us a bit about your training regime. You

1921
01:37:45,427 --> 01:37:48,027
Speaker 2: talked before about the couple of months heading into Rio.

1922
01:37:48,707 --> 01:37:51,267
Speaker 2: What does what does a training regime day to day

1923
01:37:51,347 --> 01:37:53,387
Speaker 2: look like? In the in the lead up to a

1924
01:37:53,467 --> 01:37:55,347
Speaker 2: big event like an Olympic Games.

1925
01:37:56,787 --> 01:38:02,267
Speaker 24: Yes, so prior to COVID, should I say prior to

1926
01:38:02,507 --> 01:38:05,267
Speaker 24: the Rio Games? I would be open at lea quite

1927
01:38:05,267 --> 01:38:08,147
Speaker 24: a lot obviously for my coach who was based there,

1928
01:38:08,307 --> 01:38:12,907
Speaker 24: so I would travel work to Italy for any competition. Really,

1929
01:38:12,947 --> 01:38:15,587
Speaker 24: i'd spend probably one to two months over there prior

1930
01:38:16,107 --> 01:38:20,267
Speaker 24: training leading up to it, which would consist of me

1931
01:38:20,387 --> 01:38:24,027
Speaker 24: shooting I think three to four days on one day off,

1932
01:38:25,947 --> 01:38:28,387
Speaker 24: and then that would be out at the shooting range

1933
01:38:28,387 --> 01:38:31,427
Speaker 24: at eight point thirty in the morning, shooting all the

1934
01:38:31,467 --> 01:38:34,587
Speaker 24: way out to lunchtime, having maybe an hour an hour

1935
01:38:34,627 --> 01:38:37,027
Speaker 24: and a half for lunch, and then you carry on

1936
01:38:37,107 --> 01:38:39,547
Speaker 24: shooting to about five or five o'clock in the afternoon,

1937
01:38:41,947 --> 01:38:44,507
Speaker 24: as well as doing gym work and that around that

1938
01:38:44,707 --> 01:38:45,067
Speaker 24: as well.

1939
01:38:45,947 --> 01:38:48,587
Speaker 2: How mentally draining is all of that training.

1940
01:38:49,587 --> 01:38:53,107
Speaker 24: It's very mentally draining. That's why only we kind of

1941
01:38:53,707 --> 01:38:56,467
Speaker 24: played around, and I think for me the best was

1942
01:38:56,547 --> 01:38:58,907
Speaker 24: shooting three to four days and then one day off.

1943
01:38:59,347 --> 01:39:01,867
Speaker 24: I needed that day off just to re energize so

1944
01:39:01,987 --> 01:39:04,387
Speaker 24: then I could come back the next day and be

1945
01:39:05,467 --> 01:39:08,227
Speaker 24: ready to train gain or if we had a competition,

1946
01:39:08,387 --> 01:39:13,467
Speaker 24: go and do that I personally couldn't shoot seven days

1947
01:39:13,507 --> 01:39:15,627
Speaker 24: a week. There are some people that can do it,

1948
01:39:15,747 --> 01:39:19,027
Speaker 24: but it's yeah, it's just a mental drain of it.

1949
01:39:19,307 --> 01:39:23,587
Speaker 24: Like it's especially when you're in these hot countries as well.

1950
01:39:23,667 --> 01:39:27,667
Speaker 24: You're just out there all day every day and it's

1951
01:39:27,707 --> 01:39:32,467
Speaker 24: not like a hugely physical sport, but you know, it's

1952
01:39:32,587 --> 01:39:35,787
Speaker 24: it's just that mental capacity to be able to be

1953
01:39:35,987 --> 01:39:38,747
Speaker 24: there present for that whole time.

1954
01:39:39,427 --> 01:39:43,107
Speaker 2: And how does that drainage manifest itself? Liked you get headaches?

1955
01:39:43,267 --> 01:39:46,107
Speaker 2: Do your eyes get sore? What happens when you when

1956
01:39:46,147 --> 01:39:48,347
Speaker 2: you overshoot? If you did shoot seven days in a row,

1957
01:39:48,667 --> 01:39:49,987
Speaker 2: you know, end on end?

1958
01:39:50,987 --> 01:39:55,107
Speaker 24: Yeah, so I are we contact lenses for shooting just

1959
01:39:55,187 --> 01:40:00,547
Speaker 24: because my eyes aren't one hundred percent anymore. So, yeah,

1960
01:40:00,947 --> 01:40:07,187
Speaker 24: they would get extremely dry for being in the sunlight

1961
01:40:08,227 --> 01:40:11,107
Speaker 24: streaming in onto your eyes as well, like and just

1962
01:40:12,067 --> 01:40:15,547
Speaker 24: you're looking. It's it's a weird thing you're looking so

1963
01:40:15,827 --> 01:40:21,187
Speaker 24: hard all the time that you're over using your eyes,

1964
01:40:21,747 --> 01:40:25,307
Speaker 24: if that makes sense. And yeah, it's just like a

1965
01:40:25,387 --> 01:40:28,587
Speaker 24: continual drain. And yeah, I would get quite bad headaches

1966
01:40:30,027 --> 01:40:32,907
Speaker 24: and nighttime as well as I was doing too much

1967
01:40:33,787 --> 01:40:39,907
Speaker 24: as well as just you get very sore shoulders and

1968
01:40:40,187 --> 01:40:47,907
Speaker 24: nicks just from the continual shooting and the the you know,

1969
01:40:48,147 --> 01:40:52,467
Speaker 24: the compounding of the gun going off all the time.

1970
01:40:53,187 --> 01:40:56,987
Speaker 2: When the target comes out. Has there been studies done?

1971
01:40:56,987 --> 01:40:58,907
Speaker 2: Do you know how long you have it? How long

1972
01:40:58,947 --> 01:41:02,067
Speaker 2: your reaction time is before you see it and you

1973
01:41:02,147 --> 01:41:04,067
Speaker 2: pull the trigger. It must be a fraction of a

1974
01:41:04,107 --> 01:41:04,587
Speaker 2: second aser.

1975
01:41:05,787 --> 01:41:09,227
Speaker 24: So when we call for a target at instant so

1976
01:41:09,667 --> 01:41:12,107
Speaker 24: when you call pull that target or come out straight away,

1977
01:41:12,947 --> 01:41:17,987
Speaker 24: there's no delay. And from the it is like I

1978
01:41:18,067 --> 01:41:23,347
Speaker 24: think it's point like if you're really onto, it's zero

1979
01:41:23,347 --> 01:41:25,747
Speaker 24: point five or second or something like that when you

1980
01:41:26,387 --> 01:41:27,707
Speaker 24: fire your first barrel.

1981
01:41:27,947 --> 01:41:29,027
Speaker 17: Wo wow.

1982
01:41:30,027 --> 01:41:34,027
Speaker 2: What I've often wondered as well about about international travel.

1983
01:41:34,507 --> 01:41:36,147
Speaker 2: If you're a runner, you just chuck your shoes in

1984
01:41:36,147 --> 01:41:38,387
Speaker 2: your bag, aren't you. You're and you're running gear. What

1985
01:41:38,507 --> 01:41:41,827
Speaker 2: are the extra layers of complication when you're traveling with firearms?

1986
01:41:42,787 --> 01:41:47,867
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's not easy. That's the other thing. Like you

1987
01:41:47,987 --> 01:41:52,507
Speaker 24: can't just plan to pack up and go somewhere next week.

1988
01:41:53,187 --> 01:41:58,027
Speaker 24: It's months in advance of getting permits, both for the

1989
01:41:58,107 --> 01:42:01,187
Speaker 24: countries that you're going to as well as the airlines.

1990
01:42:01,907 --> 01:42:04,227
Speaker 24: You know, there's a lot of restrictions around the airlines

1991
01:42:04,267 --> 01:42:07,827
Speaker 24: that you can travel with. Now you can't travel with

1992
01:42:07,987 --> 01:42:11,307
Speaker 24: two different airlines. You have to have one airline going

1993
01:42:11,347 --> 01:42:14,587
Speaker 24: the whole way because they don't transfer guns between airlines.

1994
01:42:16,707 --> 01:42:19,187
Speaker 24: And then the countries that you go to, you have

1995
01:42:19,267 --> 01:42:22,987
Speaker 24: to get pyramits for every country that you're going into.

1996
01:42:23,107 --> 01:42:29,307
Speaker 24: Because being from New Zealand, we have a firearms license,

1997
01:42:29,427 --> 01:42:33,307
Speaker 24: but our license doesn't have our gun on our license

1998
01:42:34,267 --> 01:42:38,107
Speaker 24: like in Europe, all their licenses is their gun is

1999
01:42:38,267 --> 01:42:41,267
Speaker 24: licensed to them right whereas we don't have our gun

2000
01:42:41,387 --> 01:42:43,947
Speaker 24: license to us. We can just well, now for the

2001
01:42:44,027 --> 01:42:46,987
Speaker 24: firearms registry, you have a license to you, but you

2002
01:42:47,067 --> 01:42:49,667
Speaker 24: can have as many guns as you want, whereas over

2003
01:42:49,707 --> 01:42:51,947
Speaker 24: in Europe they have a firearms license that's got their

2004
01:42:51,987 --> 01:42:55,467
Speaker 24: gun on it at least cerial number. So for us,

2005
01:42:55,747 --> 01:42:58,987
Speaker 24: I've had issues places like going into Cypress or the

2006
01:42:59,027 --> 01:43:01,427
Speaker 24: European Urine Union, where they go how do I know

2007
01:43:01,547 --> 01:43:02,547
Speaker 24: that this gun is yours?

2008
01:43:04,027 --> 01:43:04,987
Speaker 19: So you know?

2009
01:43:05,907 --> 01:43:11,387
Speaker 24: And then also restrictions in that from every country is

2010
01:43:11,387 --> 01:43:15,467
Speaker 24: different with their rules and regulations. Some places you can

2011
01:43:17,187 --> 01:43:19,747
Speaker 24: pick your gun up at the airport and just carry

2012
01:43:19,827 --> 01:43:23,347
Speaker 24: on and do whatever you want with it. Other hunteries

2013
01:43:23,467 --> 01:43:27,587
Speaker 24: you can't have your gun on you in that country,

2014
01:43:27,667 --> 01:43:29,467
Speaker 24: it has to be taken straight away to the gun

2015
01:43:29,507 --> 01:43:32,947
Speaker 24: club or the armory or wherever it's being kept, and

2016
01:43:33,067 --> 01:43:35,067
Speaker 24: you can only have it when you're shooting.

2017
01:43:36,187 --> 01:43:36,387
Speaker 8: Wow.

2018
01:43:36,387 --> 01:43:40,067
Speaker 24: So it's very different for every country that you go to.

2019
01:43:40,427 --> 01:43:42,547
Speaker 2: Well, just an extra hour of complication even before you

2020
01:43:42,587 --> 01:43:46,987
Speaker 2: start thinking about competing. Yeah, are you still involved, Natalie?

2021
01:43:47,027 --> 01:43:48,067
Speaker 2: You still do you still shoot?

2022
01:43:49,147 --> 01:43:49,347
Speaker 22: Yes?

2023
01:43:49,867 --> 01:43:52,747
Speaker 24: I am a little bit. I'm very much involved with

2024
01:43:52,787 --> 01:43:56,467
Speaker 24: the timmorw Gun Club timor Clayte Club should I say,

2025
01:43:56,547 --> 01:44:02,387
Speaker 24: and at home, but I've just had a son who's

2026
01:44:02,587 --> 01:44:05,867
Speaker 24: turning nine months old tomorrow, so I've tried to be

2027
01:44:06,387 --> 01:44:10,787
Speaker 24: as present as I can for him, and he's kind

2028
01:44:10,827 --> 01:44:12,827
Speaker 24: of at that tricky age where I can't really do

2029
01:44:12,987 --> 01:44:17,467
Speaker 24: too much without him, so going shooting doesn't really has

2030
01:44:17,507 --> 01:44:22,147
Speaker 24: it really been easy? But yeah, I'm never I don't

2031
01:44:22,187 --> 01:44:24,267
Speaker 24: think it's a sport that I'm never going to be

2032
01:44:24,307 --> 01:44:27,347
Speaker 24: able to step away from completely, to be honest, It's

2033
01:44:27,467 --> 01:44:28,387
Speaker 24: just it's going to.

2034
01:44:28,387 --> 01:44:31,267
Speaker 2: Always be there, absolutely. And I've asked all of the

2035
01:44:31,387 --> 01:44:33,947
Speaker 2: guests we've had on the segment the same question, where

2036
01:44:33,987 --> 01:44:35,187
Speaker 2: do you keep your silver medal?

2037
01:44:35,347 --> 01:44:35,787
Speaker 11: Where is it?

2038
01:44:38,307 --> 01:44:41,427
Speaker 24: I'm not one hundred percent sure I have a feeling

2039
01:44:41,467 --> 01:44:46,267
Speaker 24: it might be in my gum safe but something long

2040
01:44:46,307 --> 01:44:46,827
Speaker 24: those lines.

2041
01:44:46,987 --> 01:44:49,467
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm sure it's somewhere. I'm sure it's somewhere.

2042
01:44:51,267 --> 01:44:51,587
Speaker 8: Natalie.

2043
01:44:51,587 --> 01:44:54,107
Speaker 2: It's been great to get the chance to chat to you. Incredibly,

2044
01:44:54,147 --> 01:44:57,227
Speaker 2: we've lasted fifteen minutes without being interrupted by your son,

2045
01:44:57,267 --> 01:44:58,147
Speaker 2: which is amazing.

2046
01:45:01,387 --> 01:45:01,547
Speaker 8: Good.

2047
01:45:01,587 --> 01:45:05,467
Speaker 2: We've scheduled brilliantly. Hey, congratulations on that wonderful moment back

2048
01:45:05,507 --> 01:45:08,267
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen in Rio. It's been awesome to get

2049
01:45:08,267 --> 01:45:10,987
Speaker 2: the chance to chat and to reminisce a little.

2050
01:45:10,747 --> 01:45:11,027
Speaker 11: Bit with you.

2051
01:45:11,107 --> 01:45:13,587
Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time, no worries, thank you,

2052
01:45:14,027 --> 01:45:16,307
Speaker 2: Thank you, Natalie. Natalie Rooney there, silver medalist in the

2053
01:45:16,307 --> 01:45:18,707
Speaker 2: trap shooting in twenty sixteen, the latest guest on our

2054
01:45:19,187 --> 01:45:23,347
Speaker 2: Road to Paris, which actually is coming to an end.

2055
01:45:23,387 --> 01:45:25,187
Speaker 2: We're going to be in Paris before you know it.

2056
01:45:25,507 --> 01:45:27,147
Speaker 2: In terms of the Olympic Games, they start on the

2057
01:45:27,187 --> 01:45:30,067
Speaker 2: twenty sixth of July. It's the first of July tomorrow,

2058
01:45:31,387 --> 01:45:35,867
Speaker 2: so yeah, we're nearly there, less than four weeks away

2059
01:45:35,867 --> 01:45:37,827
Speaker 2: from the start of it. Our news talks he'd B

2060
01:45:38,027 --> 01:45:41,107
Speaker 2: is an official radio partner of the Olympic Games and

2061
01:45:41,267 --> 01:45:44,707
Speaker 2: our sister station gold Sport gearing up to bring you

2062
01:45:45,067 --> 01:45:50,107
Speaker 2: through the night commentary right across the Olympic Games. We'll

2063
01:45:50,587 --> 01:45:52,667
Speaker 2: keep an eye in an ear on all of the

2064
01:45:52,747 --> 01:45:56,227
Speaker 2: New Zealand athletes heading to Paris and bring you basically

2065
01:45:56,347 --> 01:46:00,427
Speaker 2: water wall commentary of the Paris Olympic Games on gold Sport.

2066
01:46:00,587 --> 01:46:03,347
Speaker 2: Presumeable start at about eight o'clock each night New Zealand time,

2067
01:46:03,627 --> 01:46:06,827
Speaker 2: go through the night into the breakfast hours when some

2068
01:46:06,947 --> 01:46:08,947
Speaker 2: of the finals are in the swimming and the athletics

2069
01:46:08,987 --> 01:46:11,067
Speaker 2: and things like that. So yeah, rarely looking forward to

2070
01:46:11,107 --> 01:46:14,267
Speaker 2: bringing the Olympic Games, the Paris Olympic Games to you

2071
01:46:14,547 --> 01:46:17,227
Speaker 2: on gold Sport and also here on news Talk. Sa'd

2072
01:46:17,267 --> 01:46:19,907
Speaker 2: be two twenty nine on text, Pinty, have you picked

2073
01:46:19,947 --> 01:46:23,627
Speaker 2: up on the fact that John Gallah's son Matt has

2074
01:46:23,747 --> 01:46:27,227
Speaker 2: been named in the Italy rugby squad to play games

2075
01:46:27,267 --> 01:46:30,707
Speaker 2: against some more, Tonga and Japan next month. He may

2076
01:46:30,867 --> 01:46:33,707
Speaker 2: end up playing against the All Blacks in November. Divided

2077
01:46:33,787 --> 01:46:38,387
Speaker 2: loyalties for kipper perhaps John Gallaha. What a player, My god,

2078
01:46:38,907 --> 01:46:40,587
Speaker 2: what a rugby player he was. Yeah, I have picked

2079
01:46:40,667 --> 01:46:42,827
Speaker 2: up on that, actually that Matt's in that team. He's

2080
01:46:42,867 --> 01:46:45,987
Speaker 2: eligible not only for Italy but also for England. I

2081
01:46:46,027 --> 01:46:49,227
Speaker 2: think he's played under twenties for England, Ireland and New Zealand,

2082
01:46:49,947 --> 01:46:53,107
Speaker 2: but he's in the thirty nine man training squad named

2083
01:46:53,147 --> 01:46:55,787
Speaker 2: for those test matches, So yeah, it wouldn't be beyond

2084
01:46:55,787 --> 01:47:00,307
Speaker 2: the realms of possibility that he is he is up

2085
01:47:00,347 --> 01:47:03,067
Speaker 2: against the All Blacks later in the year, the team

2086
01:47:03,147 --> 01:47:07,827
Speaker 2: that his dad represented with such distinction forty one matches,

2087
01:47:07,867 --> 01:47:10,387
Speaker 2: eighteen tests and part of the eighty seven side that

2088
01:47:10,387 --> 01:47:12,227
Speaker 2: won the very first Rugby World Cup. We'll keep an

2089
01:47:12,227 --> 01:47:14,387
Speaker 2: eye on Matt Gallaha. And I guess if you are

2090
01:47:14,507 --> 01:47:17,027
Speaker 2: John Gallaher, if your son's playing against the team you

2091
01:47:17,107 --> 01:47:19,187
Speaker 2: used to play for, you, I mean you're back the

2092
01:47:19,227 --> 01:47:22,587
Speaker 2: team your sons, and don't you surely half past two

2093
01:47:22,627 --> 01:47:25,627
Speaker 2: when we come back across the Tasman are we a

2094
01:47:25,747 --> 01:47:28,507
Speaker 2: day later than normal? Catch up with our Australian correspondent

2095
01:47:28,827 --> 01:47:30,027
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock right after this.

2096
01:47:32,027 --> 01:47:34,947
Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

2097
01:47:34,947 --> 01:47:39,747
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekends Sport with Jason Pain and GJ. Guvnerholmes,

2098
01:47:39,947 --> 01:47:42,387
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs.

2099
01:47:42,427 --> 01:47:46,067
Speaker 2: They'd be just coming up twenty six away from three

2100
01:47:46,267 --> 01:47:49,347
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent to Adam Peacock is with us a day

2101
01:47:49,547 --> 01:47:51,867
Speaker 2: later than usual, but with heaps to cover off on

2102
01:47:52,507 --> 01:47:54,067
Speaker 2: that side of the Tasman. I didn't want to miss

2103
01:47:54,107 --> 01:47:57,227
Speaker 2: the chance. We bumped you yesterday, Adam, because we had

2104
01:47:57,267 --> 01:48:00,027
Speaker 2: an hour with the All Blacks coach, so we didn't

2105
01:48:00,027 --> 01:48:01,227
Speaker 2: really want to break that up. Do you think it

2106
01:48:01,307 --> 01:48:04,587
Speaker 2: was the right move to bump you for razor.

2107
01:48:06,947 --> 01:48:13,467
Speaker 19: Another blatant disregard of Australianism from Kaways and everything like that.

2108
01:48:13,627 --> 01:48:16,547
Speaker 19: Now completely understand mate. I hope it all went well

2109
01:48:16,587 --> 01:48:16,747
Speaker 19: with it.

2110
01:48:17,427 --> 01:48:19,347
Speaker 2: It didn't makes you I think you're half right actually,

2111
01:48:19,427 --> 01:48:23,187
Speaker 2: But let's move on anyway to Joe Schmidt, Scott Robertson's

2112
01:48:23,227 --> 01:48:27,347
Speaker 2: counterpart and soon to be opponent in the coaching box,

2113
01:48:27,387 --> 01:48:29,947
Speaker 2: getting ready for his first test as Wallaby's coach. Australia

2114
01:48:29,947 --> 01:48:32,867
Speaker 2: played Wales and Sydney next Saturday, Melbourne the following Saturday,

2115
01:48:33,347 --> 01:48:36,947
Speaker 2: then Rugby Championship. Of course, How are optimism levels among

2116
01:48:37,267 --> 01:48:38,547
Speaker 2: Australian rugby fans.

2117
01:48:39,187 --> 01:48:41,667
Speaker 19: Yeah, not great, given what happened in the World Cup

2118
01:48:41,827 --> 01:48:45,827
Speaker 19: last year, and given I mean there's Joe Swili, He's

2119
01:48:45,907 --> 01:48:49,067
Speaker 19: coming over from rugby league next year. But conversely we've

2120
01:48:49,107 --> 01:48:52,067
Speaker 19: lost Markey Park and Carter Gordon to rugby league the

2121
01:48:52,187 --> 01:48:56,387
Speaker 19: Wallabies I'm talking about. So yeah, it's a difficult time

2122
01:48:56,427 --> 01:48:59,307
Speaker 19: for Joe Schmidt because he's got a few things to

2123
01:48:59,347 --> 01:49:02,267
Speaker 19: weigh up about. How much does he rely on the

2124
01:49:02,347 --> 01:49:04,867
Speaker 19: overseas players, how much does he rely on players that

2125
01:49:04,907 --> 01:49:08,427
Speaker 19: aren't going to be here next year, Like where's the

2126
01:49:08,467 --> 01:49:10,187
Speaker 19: priority to get it right now, to get it right

2127
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Speaker 19: in twenty twenty five, to get it right to the

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01:49:11,867 --> 01:49:14,547
Speaker 19: next World Cup. So I think he's he's made a

2129
01:49:14,707 --> 01:49:16,467
Speaker 19: fair call with the guys that are going to the

2130
01:49:16,587 --> 01:49:20,347
Speaker 19: league just leave him out. But even though he said

2131
01:49:20,387 --> 01:49:22,747
Speaker 19: Cardi Goodon might not have been in the squad full

2132
01:49:22,787 --> 01:49:24,827
Speaker 19: stop because the other fly Hearts are going okay in

2133
01:49:24,947 --> 01:49:28,867
Speaker 19: his opinion, But yeah, it's a really tough one to balance.

2134
01:49:28,907 --> 01:49:32,347
Speaker 19: He's chosen, he's gone wide, he's gone thirty eight, So yeah,

2135
01:49:32,747 --> 01:49:35,307
Speaker 19: he's picked apart what's happened in Super rugby so far,

2136
01:49:35,387 --> 01:49:37,027
Speaker 19: and he's going to go with this and it's a

2137
01:49:37,067 --> 01:49:39,947
Speaker 19: good way to Wales will be a good opponent. Georgia

2138
01:49:40,467 --> 01:49:45,267
Speaker 19: the opponent as well, especially in the forward battle. But yeah,

2139
01:49:45,427 --> 01:49:48,107
Speaker 19: it's expectations aren't exactly an all time high.

2140
01:49:48,187 --> 01:49:50,027
Speaker 2: Let me say that pointy, all right, was is there

2141
01:49:50,027 --> 01:49:52,027
Speaker 2: any school of thought around that he can't possibly be

2142
01:49:52,107 --> 01:49:53,067
Speaker 2: worse than the last blake?

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 19: I think everyone in the rugby is thankful that the

2145
01:49:59,187 --> 01:50:02,547
Speaker 19: circus that came with Eddie in the last twelve months

2146
01:50:03,107 --> 01:50:03,747
Speaker 19: is not apparent.

2147
01:50:04,427 --> 01:50:05,267
Speaker 8: It's just not there.

2148
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Speaker 19: So this guy, it's just a rugby coach and sure

2149
01:50:08,987 --> 01:50:10,387
Speaker 19: he's going to be good with the press, is going

2150
01:50:10,427 --> 01:50:13,507
Speaker 19: to be forthright with his opinions, but all the other

2151
01:50:13,587 --> 01:50:16,827
Speaker 19: stuff that's going on, like for him standing in a

2152
01:50:16,907 --> 01:50:19,987
Speaker 19: kubra at the departure gate saying that it's the worst

2153
01:50:19,987 --> 01:50:22,547
Speaker 19: press conference he's ever had. I can't imagine a world

2154
01:50:22,667 --> 01:50:26,987
Speaker 19: we live in in which Joe Smith does that. So yeah,

2155
01:50:27,307 --> 01:50:30,107
Speaker 19: I think everyone's now trying to move on quickly because

2156
01:50:30,187 --> 01:50:31,987
Speaker 19: Australia Rugby needs a bit of help at the moment.

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01:50:32,067 --> 01:50:34,147
Speaker 19: They need to want is to be successful as part

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Speaker 19: of it.

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Speaker 2: All right, look forward to seeing how they go in

2160
01:50:36,667 --> 01:50:40,387
Speaker 2: their first couple of assignments. State of Origin two almost

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01:50:40,427 --> 01:50:43,107
Speaker 2: a complete reversal of Game one. You South Wales bouncing

2162
01:50:43,187 --> 01:50:45,907
Speaker 2: back from a thirty eighteen loss in Game one to

2163
01:50:45,987 --> 01:50:48,987
Speaker 2: win thirty eight eighteen in Game two. Obviously a lot

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01:50:49,027 --> 01:50:51,147
Speaker 2: easier to play rugby league with thirteen not twelve.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, made that point. Yeah, it was a fantastic performance.

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Speaker 19: A lot of people are saying it's the greatest ever

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01:50:59,667 --> 01:51:03,107
Speaker 19: half of origin football that one team has produced, and

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Speaker 19: it's hard to think of a better one in terms

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01:51:05,307 --> 01:51:09,547
Speaker 19: of just outrageously good play wherever you look at it

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01:51:09,667 --> 01:51:12,827
Speaker 19: without the ball, the things they were doing to set

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01:51:12,907 --> 01:51:15,747
Speaker 19: up opportunities, the things that were doing to nullifly opportunities

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01:51:15,787 --> 01:51:18,907
Speaker 19: with Queensland, it was just brutal and they just tanked

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01:51:18,947 --> 01:51:22,827
Speaker 19: up the middle of the of the field. They outdid

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Speaker 19: them for run meetings in that first half by double

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01:51:25,347 --> 01:51:27,707
Speaker 19: and yeah, they got on a roll and Queensland just

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01:51:27,747 --> 01:51:31,107
Speaker 19: couldn't compete. So yeah, it's a hard one away up

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Speaker 19: there for the second the third game because a lot

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01:51:33,467 --> 01:51:35,907
Speaker 19: of people thinking, oh, well, the Queensland did well in

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01:51:35,987 --> 01:51:38,027
Speaker 19: the second half and that carries on to the third game.

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Speaker 19: Queensland have some colt stadia and to look forward to

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01:51:41,347 --> 01:51:42,787
Speaker 19: New South Wales and now I just got to back

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01:51:42,867 --> 01:51:44,267
Speaker 19: that up. Can they back that up?

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01:51:44,667 --> 01:51:44,787
Speaker 10: All?

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01:51:44,827 --> 01:51:47,107
Speaker 19: But with questions it set it up beautifully for the

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Speaker 19: third game in a couple of weeks time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a stand and you've probably seen similar

2187
01:51:51,907 --> 01:51:55,947
Speaker 2: stats that New South Wales haven't won an Origin Decider

2188
01:51:56,227 --> 01:51:59,067
Speaker 2: in Brisbane since two thousand and five. But I mean

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01:51:59,307 --> 01:52:01,267
Speaker 2: these things only mean so much, don't that. I mean

2190
01:52:01,307 --> 01:52:02,827
Speaker 2: New South Wales may well go there and win.

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01:52:03,667 --> 01:52:03,787
Speaker 8: Well.

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01:52:03,827 --> 01:52:06,827
Speaker 19: Michael maguire, the coaches asked about that right up the game.

2193
01:52:06,947 --> 01:52:09,987
Speaker 19: He said, well, the proves it's been done, so yeah,

2194
01:52:10,267 --> 01:52:13,627
Speaker 19: I get that. I mean we can send them, we

2195
01:52:13,747 --> 01:52:15,707
Speaker 19: can send people to the moon. Just because it hasn't

2196
01:52:15,747 --> 01:52:17,307
Speaker 19: been done. Well, it doesn't mean we can't do it.

2197
01:52:17,587 --> 01:52:20,987
Speaker 19: So yeah, I guess you're taking that route. But yeah,

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01:52:21,027 --> 01:52:23,867
Speaker 19: it's not like all of history hecks that is on

2199
01:52:23,987 --> 01:52:25,667
Speaker 19: your south West, but it's a plenty long time and

2200
01:52:25,667 --> 01:52:28,227
Speaker 19: there's a reason for it, and that's because Queen Bland

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01:52:28,387 --> 01:52:30,107
Speaker 19: lift like you would not believe at that ground.

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01:52:30,307 --> 01:52:30,507
Speaker 22: Yeah.

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01:52:30,707 --> 01:52:32,827
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait for a decide. Everyone loves a decider,

2204
01:52:33,107 --> 01:52:35,627
Speaker 2: Everyone loves a Game three decider. We look forward to

2205
01:52:35,707 --> 01:52:37,907
Speaker 2: that T twenty Cricket World Cup and you're a champion

2206
01:52:37,987 --> 01:52:40,667
Speaker 2: beating South Africa this morning. Australia didn't make it out

2207
01:52:40,667 --> 01:52:42,587
Speaker 2: of the Super Eights into the Simneys, I guess there

2208
01:52:42,627 --> 01:52:45,307
Speaker 2: has to be considered a bit of a mediocre tournament,

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Speaker 2: does it not making the final four?

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01:52:47,347 --> 01:52:48,067
Speaker 19: No, it's a failure.

2211
01:52:48,467 --> 01:52:48,667
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2212
01:52:48,747 --> 01:52:52,267
Speaker 19: For Australia, not making a semi final of any cricket competition,

2213
01:52:52,387 --> 01:52:54,827
Speaker 19: men's or women's is a failure and that's what that is.

2214
01:52:54,987 --> 01:52:57,627
Speaker 19: And to me, it all came down to one selection.

2215
01:52:57,707 --> 01:53:00,067
Speaker 19: They left out Mitch dark to the game against Afghanistan,

2216
01:53:00,187 --> 01:53:02,507
Speaker 19: preferring to go with two spinners, which you know, it's

2217
01:53:02,507 --> 01:53:04,427
Speaker 19: fine if they want to, but don't leave out Mitch

2218
01:53:04,507 --> 01:53:08,027
Speaker 19: Darker takes wickets in the powerplay up and Afghanistan put

2219
01:53:08,067 --> 01:53:09,867
Speaker 19: on a century partnership at the top of the order

2220
01:53:09,947 --> 01:53:12,107
Speaker 19: with their two best batters that they don't have the

2221
01:53:12,227 --> 01:53:14,907
Speaker 19: greatest depth to their batting. They've got a really good

2222
01:53:14,947 --> 01:53:16,867
Speaker 19: bowling unit and they're very good in the field now,

2223
01:53:17,067 --> 01:53:21,667
Speaker 19: but batting is not their strength. And for some unknown

2224
01:53:21,747 --> 01:53:24,187
Speaker 19: reason the Australian selector has left out Mitch Stalker's taken

2225
01:53:24,267 --> 01:53:26,267
Speaker 19: more white ball wickets than any other bowler in the

2226
01:53:26,347 --> 01:53:29,867
Speaker 19: history of Australian cricket. Anyway, digressed, Australia were good enough

2227
01:53:29,907 --> 01:53:33,027
Speaker 19: to get through, that's fair enough. Afghanistan played their final

2228
01:53:33,067 --> 01:53:35,907
Speaker 19: in that game got builded by South Africa and South

2229
01:53:35,947 --> 01:53:39,587
Speaker 19: Africa they did thirty or thirty to win the final overnight.

2230
01:53:39,707 --> 01:53:43,707
Speaker 19: Never won an ICC final I think since Champions Trophia

2231
01:53:43,747 --> 01:53:46,987
Speaker 19: ninety ninety eight. But they've failed in World Cup finals

2232
01:53:47,267 --> 01:53:49,227
Speaker 19: semi finals all the time. So they finally got through

2233
01:53:49,267 --> 01:53:52,067
Speaker 19: the final. But then India found a way with Jasper Bomber,

2234
01:53:52,867 --> 01:53:54,787
Speaker 19: player of the tournament. If he wasn't played at the tournament,

2235
01:53:54,827 --> 01:53:57,787
Speaker 19: don't know who officially was he doesn't he wasn't plarted

2236
01:53:57,827 --> 01:54:00,667
Speaker 19: of the tournament. Well, the people who are watching and

2237
01:54:01,067 --> 01:54:03,907
Speaker 19: giving a reward were. We got caught up in the

2238
01:54:03,947 --> 01:54:06,787
Speaker 19: old caravan rum. I think because he was spected Akula.

2239
01:54:07,347 --> 01:54:11,107
Speaker 19: He was so good and basically carried India to a

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Speaker 19: big victory.

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01:54:11,867 --> 01:54:13,987
Speaker 2: South Africa should have won that game. Though they should

2242
01:54:14,027 --> 01:54:15,827
Speaker 2: have won the game. They had it, They had it.

2243
01:54:16,867 --> 01:54:21,227
Speaker 19: Yeah, but that's South Africa in big cricket game and

2244
01:54:21,387 --> 01:54:23,707
Speaker 19: India like, okay, we can, we can bag out South

2245
01:54:23,747 --> 01:54:28,667
Speaker 19: Africa for bottling it, but I mean Jasper Boomra when

2246
01:54:28,707 --> 01:54:30,867
Speaker 19: he's got the ball in this tournament, he's proven that

2247
01:54:30,987 --> 01:54:34,507
Speaker 19: he's the man and he makes it very very hard.

2248
01:54:34,547 --> 01:54:36,667
Speaker 19: And they got someone sept of their bowling India and

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01:54:37,067 --> 01:54:39,307
Speaker 19: look overall, I think the d got what they wanted

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Speaker 19: because they fixed the draw to make sure they knew

2251
01:54:42,587 --> 01:54:45,547
Speaker 19: when India were playing we and they fixed the drawer

2252
01:54:45,587 --> 01:54:48,067
Speaker 19: to make sure that the biggest TV audience in India

2253
01:54:48,107 --> 01:54:51,467
Speaker 19: could be aggregated, and they got what they wanted.

2254
01:54:51,547 --> 01:54:52,147
Speaker 10: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, just to finish one of just check

2256
01:54:54,907 --> 01:54:58,347
Speaker 2: in on the SOCCA Rus. They have had the qualifying

2257
01:54:58,467 --> 01:55:01,907
Speaker 2: path to the next FIFA World Cup solidified. They're in

2258
01:55:01,987 --> 01:55:06,867
Speaker 2: a sixteen group with Japan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, China and Indonesia.

2259
01:55:07,027 --> 01:55:09,227
Speaker 2: There are three groups of sex. What do they have

2260
01:55:09,267 --> 01:55:11,467
Speaker 2: to do to qualify because there's about a million teams

2261
01:55:11,467 --> 01:55:12,267
Speaker 2: of the World Cup now.

2262
01:55:13,267 --> 01:55:16,507
Speaker 19: So they're breaking it really down. I think it's top

2263
01:55:16,587 --> 01:55:20,427
Speaker 19: two goes great through so that's fixed, and then the

2264
01:55:20,507 --> 01:55:24,747
Speaker 19: other three I think whittle themselves down through other spots

2265
01:55:25,947 --> 01:55:28,947
Speaker 19: or no, the next two in the group go through.

2266
01:55:29,467 --> 01:55:31,507
Speaker 19: I don't know. Top two that's what you need to

2267
01:55:31,547 --> 01:55:34,347
Speaker 19: do straighta. They're not worry about all that other garbage

2268
01:55:35,067 --> 01:55:37,027
Speaker 19: in a couple of years time, but it's not going

2269
01:55:37,067 --> 01:55:41,947
Speaker 19: to be easy. It's Saudi Arabia away Japan, wherever you

2270
01:55:42,067 --> 01:55:45,667
Speaker 19: play them difficult and some tricky opponents away from home,

2271
01:55:45,787 --> 01:55:49,187
Speaker 19: like Indonesia and China as well. So yeah, it's not

2272
01:55:49,347 --> 01:55:51,987
Speaker 19: the it's not skate through, but that's Asian all at

2273
01:55:51,987 --> 01:55:53,667
Speaker 19: the moment. It's improving all the time. A lot of

2274
01:55:53,707 --> 01:55:57,507
Speaker 19: the Southeast Asian nations are putting money into developing players,

2275
01:55:57,667 --> 01:55:59,787
Speaker 19: like Indonesia. As we saw at the last Asian Cup,

2276
01:55:59,827 --> 01:56:02,307
Speaker 19: they were pretty good. So yeah, it won't be a

2277
01:56:02,387 --> 01:56:04,107
Speaker 19: case of just rocking up to the bridge. I'll have

2278
01:56:04,187 --> 01:56:06,947
Speaker 19: to have their best players available all the time and

2279
01:56:07,427 --> 01:56:09,227
Speaker 19: in order to be able to qualify automatically.

2280
01:56:09,387 --> 01:56:11,227
Speaker 2: So it's home and away against other five team So

2281
01:56:11,227 --> 01:56:13,307
Speaker 2: it's a ten team, a ten game group basically in

2282
01:56:13,347 --> 01:56:17,587
Speaker 2: top two go automatically through so on rankings, Japan and Australia.

2283
01:56:17,707 --> 01:56:21,587
Speaker 19: Long while road. Yeah, Japan and Australia. But Saudi Arabia

2284
01:56:21,707 --> 01:56:24,307
Speaker 19: have fallen off a cliff that they can turn things

2285
01:56:24,347 --> 01:56:27,147
Speaker 19: around with the right coach. I think Roberto Manchini was

2286
01:56:27,267 --> 01:56:28,787
Speaker 19: the coach last time I checked. I don't know if

2287
01:56:28,827 --> 01:56:30,307
Speaker 19: he's still a case because they change him all the

2288
01:56:30,347 --> 01:56:33,387
Speaker 19: time over there. But yeah, it won't be an easy

2289
01:56:33,587 --> 01:56:36,147
Speaker 19: proposition because Saudi football has got so much money going

2290
01:56:36,187 --> 01:56:37,627
Speaker 19: into it at the moment, so you can't help but

2291
01:56:37,747 --> 01:56:40,227
Speaker 19: think that that's going to improve their national team eventually.

2292
01:56:40,387 --> 01:56:43,267
Speaker 19: So wait and see what happens, but it'll be I've

2293
01:56:43,267 --> 01:56:44,427
Speaker 19: just got a feeling it will come down to the

2294
01:56:44,507 --> 01:56:46,947
Speaker 19: last game as usual for the SOCCERUS and see what happens.

2295
01:56:47,027 --> 01:56:49,107
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll like keeping ony on that as

2296
01:56:49,147 --> 01:56:52,027
Speaker 2: we will all Australian sporting matters with you. Back to

2297
01:56:52,067 --> 01:56:54,347
Speaker 2: your regular slot on Saturday next weekend, mate, we'll catch

2298
01:56:54,427 --> 01:56:55,747
Speaker 2: up the sounds good.

2299
01:56:55,787 --> 01:56:56,867
Speaker 19: Pint it Cheersoe, Thank you.

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01:56:56,907 --> 01:57:00,547
Speaker 2: Adam Adam piccotck our Australian correspondent normally Saturday's one forty five,

2301
01:57:01,027 --> 01:57:03,707
Speaker 2: but later and on a different day this week. But

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01:57:03,747 --> 01:57:06,947
Speaker 2: back to his regular slot next Saturday seven Away from

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01:57:06,987 --> 01:57:09,107
Speaker 2: Three News Talks. He'd be back on weekend Sport after this.

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01:57:09,987 --> 01:57:13,387
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game weekends for it with

2305
01:57:13,627 --> 01:57:17,667
Speaker 1: Jason Vine and GJ. Garnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home

2306
01:57:17,707 --> 01:57:18,987
Speaker 1: builder News Talks.

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01:57:18,827 --> 01:57:22,547
Speaker 2: MB fourteen Away from Three. John on Tex says Jason,

2308
01:57:22,547 --> 01:57:24,427
Speaker 2: I've only been listening for some of the show, but

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01:57:24,467 --> 01:57:26,707
Speaker 2: since the All Black Squad was named, I've heard nothing

2310
01:57:26,747 --> 01:57:29,547
Speaker 2: about the non selection of Sam Kain. He said it

2311
01:57:29,627 --> 01:57:31,067
Speaker 2: was available, just not as captain.

2312
01:57:31,347 --> 01:57:31,547
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:57:31,547 --> 01:57:33,347
Speaker 2: I think the problem John with Sam Kain was that

2314
01:57:33,387 --> 01:57:35,427
Speaker 2: he's had no rugby. He picked up that injury early

2315
01:57:35,507 --> 01:57:38,667
Speaker 2: in the Japanese season and hadn't had any rugby at

2316
01:57:38,707 --> 01:57:42,107
Speaker 2: all really from which he could be considered for selection.

2317
01:57:42,307 --> 01:57:44,547
Speaker 2: But I can tell you he was at the official

2318
01:57:44,627 --> 01:57:47,427
Speaker 2: launch on Wednesday. He's attached to the All Blacks team

2319
01:57:47,467 --> 01:57:49,907
Speaker 2: at the moment, as are a couple of others. They

2320
01:57:50,067 --> 01:57:53,427
Speaker 2: named the thirty two man squad plus four training partners,

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01:57:53,467 --> 01:57:55,467
Speaker 2: but there are others there as well. Sam Kaine is

2322
01:57:55,507 --> 01:57:58,907
Speaker 2: one of them. Will Jordan is another. So I think

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01:57:58,947 --> 01:58:02,347
Speaker 2: you will see Sam Kain in an official capacity in

2324
01:58:02,387 --> 01:58:04,907
Speaker 2: an All Black squad at some stage this season, but

2325
01:58:04,987 --> 01:58:07,587
Speaker 2: he's not among the official third two for the upcoming

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01:58:07,627 --> 01:58:11,627
Speaker 2: test matches against England and Fiji. One man who is, though,

2327
01:58:11,987 --> 01:58:15,227
Speaker 2: is one of the new Camps, Hurricanes midfielder Billy Proctor.

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01:58:15,707 --> 01:58:17,867
Speaker 2: I spoke with Billy Proctor at the All Black season

2329
01:58:17,907 --> 01:58:20,027
Speaker 2: launchoh on Wednesday to find out how he was feeling

2330
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Speaker 2: about his first ever All Blacks call up. Billy Proctor

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01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:25,827
Speaker 2: All Black? Well almost, how does that sound, mate?

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01:58:26,707 --> 01:58:29,627
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's pretty cool, you know, to be named in

2333
01:58:29,667 --> 01:58:32,387
Speaker 14: the squad. You know, it's the work to do. But

2334
01:58:32,787 --> 01:58:35,067
Speaker 14: over the past few days being able to process it,

2335
01:58:36,427 --> 01:58:38,547
Speaker 14: you know, I've had a you know, signs of effect

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01:58:38,587 --> 01:58:40,547
Speaker 14: and yeah, as I said, process and you know, it's

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Speaker 14: been awesome, awesome to see you know that we're paying

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Speaker 14: off and I guess being yeah, picked to be being

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Speaker 14: the squatters. Yeah, something pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: So, Nuts and Bolts, how did you find out?

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Speaker 14: It was just at home watching it on TV with

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Speaker 14: my whole family, my partner, appearents and brothers, and yeah,

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Speaker 14: just just waiting to the so let's started naming the

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Speaker 14: names and obviously mine mine got read out and there's

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Speaker 14: a few cheers gone on in the household. And it's

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Speaker 14: a pretty special way of finding out instead of like

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Speaker 14: a phone call. It's pretty cool just not knowing and

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Speaker 14: waiting and hearing it on TV and finding out.

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Speaker 2: They were very cool. I spoke to Jason Holland on

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Speaker 2: the radio the other day and he said, you just

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Speaker 2: kept on banging on the door. The reason that you

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Speaker 2: got chosen. You just kept on banging on that door.

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Speaker 2: Did you did you feel like you were in the frame?

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Speaker 14: A yeah, I didn't think too much about about the

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Speaker 14: All Blacks during the season. You know, I was just

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Speaker 14: trying to do my part for the Hurricanes, trying to

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Speaker 14: play the best I can, and yeah, do my part

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Speaker 14: for the Hurricanes and just trying to get bit each

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Speaker 14: week and yeah, improve my game and get better. So yeah,

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Speaker 14: that was that was I guess my focus. And it's

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Speaker 14: pretty cool to be here now and this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it like now that you've had the chaster

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Speaker 2: process that the team got read out? As you say

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Speaker 2: on the TV on Monday, what are we now Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: You've had forty eight hours or so. You're in the environment.

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Speaker 2: You got to your new gear on as I stunder

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Speaker 2: thinking now what's about to unfold?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I guess so, you know, I had the few

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Speaker 14: days to process it, and you know, he don't quite

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Speaker 14: realize how big of a the elderness until you see

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Speaker 14: all the messages coming, and I guess you see the

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Speaker 14: reactions of your family and how proud they are. But yeah,

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Speaker 14: now now in the environment, you know, we've only had

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Speaker 14: a couple of hours to give them. Still still rubbing

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Speaker 14: shoulders every un and uh, you know, connecting with everyone.

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Speaker 14: But I'm sure over the next few days. You know,

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Speaker 14: it would be called to I guess get the core

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Speaker 14: experience of what it's like to be in the all

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Speaker 14: black environment and I guess learning and get to work

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Speaker 14: with with with the squad and coaches.

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Speaker 2: So looking forward to it. I'm not sure what the

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Speaker 2: cheers were like when you went from p for prop

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Speaker 2: and carried on. Did you were you had you calm

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Speaker 2: down by the time Pussily or Tossi's name was called?

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Speaker 2: What about that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: That was awesome too to hear his name and you

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Speaker 14: know see how far he's coming. Uh to be I

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Speaker 14: guess named in this squad with him as you know,

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Speaker 14: pretty cool. Yeah, so a happy stake for him and

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Speaker 14: him and his family. So yeah, it's a cool moment.

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Speaker 2: Your partnership with Jordy Barrett's been an eye catching part

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Speaker 2: of the hurricane success this year. How keen are you

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Speaker 2: to replicate that with a black jersey on?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it'd be awesome. You know, it's awesome to see

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Speaker 14: him him get I guess recognized and and him to

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Speaker 14: get his role as vice captain. You know, it's an

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Speaker 14: awesome achievement, achievement for him and he you know, it's

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Speaker 14: awesome to play alongside him, and you know I played

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Speaker 14: with him for the last couple of years and really

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Speaker 14: enjoyed it. He's awesome player. So yeah, so you see

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Speaker 14: what happens in the next next couple of weeks or yeah,

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Speaker 14: next week or two. But you know it would be

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Speaker 14: awesome to be able to run out there with him

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Speaker 14: a fair opportunity position stuff.

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Speaker 2: Just to finish. How long has this been a goal?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how old was Billy Proctor when he first

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Speaker 2: started thinking about we're in the All Black jersey?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't know if he started thinking about wearing

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Speaker 14: the All Black jersey, but you know, he's always been

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Speaker 14: a team that you look up to, you ever since

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Speaker 14: a young boy. And you know, I've been playing rugby

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Speaker 14: since I with just a little kids, so you know,

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Speaker 14: you always look up to All Blacks and you know,

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Speaker 14: it's always been an awesome team and I guess a

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Speaker 14: big part of New Zealand. So yeah, it's been you know,

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Speaker 14: it's like a little kid's dream come true. So it's yeah,

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Speaker 14: pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: That is Billy Proctor one of the new faces in

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks. So the first test is next weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's going to rush up quick as well. Next Saturday

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Speaker 2: night Dunedin against England five past seven. We'll have a

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Speaker 2: full commentary here on News Talks EDB and Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: will come to you out of Test City Dunedin next

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Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday, so we'll preview it all for you

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Speaker 2: next Saturday and then break it all down on Sunday

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Speaker 2: with your help here on Weekend Sport eight and a

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Speaker 2: half to three News Talks EB.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

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Speaker 1: on eight Weekend Sport with Jason Paine News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EDB just on five to three that is asked for

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Speaker 2: another weekend of Weekend Sport. Huge thanks to Mark Kelly

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Speaker 2: for producing the show both today and yesterday when we

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Speaker 2: came to you from inside the All Blacks training camps.

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Speaker 2: Rap pleasure to be able to do that. Thanks Mark

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you spending some of your long weekend with

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Speaker 2: us I'm back on Sports Talk tomorrow night between seven

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Speaker 2: and eight weekend. Sport returns next weekend, obviously from Test City,

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Speaker 2: dned and looking forward to the first All Blacks Test

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. Song to take Us Out Today, Well,

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Speaker 2: it seems like everywhere I go these days, into a

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Speaker 2: service station, my own car, when my kids are in

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Speaker 2: It seems to have monstered every single radio station in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and overseas. So I thought, well, if it's

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Speaker 2: good enough for them, it's good enough for News talks

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Speaker 2: 'b as well. American singer Shipboozy with a quite a

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Speaker 2: catchy little diddy called a bar song taking Us Out Today,

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Speaker 2: see tomorrow night five an hour everybody and by.

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Speaker 10: Everybody had the barn.

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Speaker 22: Get a text, text.

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Speaker 12: Everybody had the bar, get a tips funny he comes

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Speaker 12: the two, so of the three to the four when

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Speaker 12: it's last call and the kicken shout the dark skin

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Speaker 12: kind of lay.

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Speaker 14: But the ladies want some morn Oh.

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Speaker 22: My good lord, telling him drink something some I'm gonna

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Speaker 22: put me up a double shotting.

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Speaker 12: With They're on me and Jack Dale's got a history.

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Speaker 22: There's a part of downtown near Fifth Street. Everybody had

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Speaker 22: the bar get test. Some I'm gonna put me up.

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Speaker 7: A double shot.

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Speaker 2: This they on me at jack Dale's. Got his sixt

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Speaker 2: You got the bottom.

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Speaker 14: Of a bottom doll, missess.

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Speaker 22: Everybody had the bar get test. Everybody had a bargain test.

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Speaker 22: Everybody had the bargain test.

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