1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The Rural Report on Heather Do for ce Allen. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Drive, Heather Fyi for Matimer. Trump couldn't have done anything 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: a year ago because he didn't become president until January 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: this year. Inconvenient fact, Tony very inconvenient sixteen past six. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: Hamish mackay filling in for Jamie mckaye on The Country 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: is with Us. 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Hello, Hamish, Hello Heather. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: It's the gene editing bill dead. 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: I think it's get pretty close to that. I mean 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: National will be the sort of slowgo here act in 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: New Zealand first now really sort of raising their concern. 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: Screens and Labor obviously have said about this in the past, 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: but it's just too many unknowns here, and you've got 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: groups like Beef and Land New Zealand. They want a 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: far more consultation. They feel, like chair Kate Ecklum was 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: on the show today, I feel like it's been rushed 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: through a bit Venison farmers the same. I mean, this 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: gene modification, I mean where could this potentially end? And 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I quite like, you know, taking the side of caution here. 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean you've got examples in America, got these cattle 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: mutations where cows were the cattle were bred to be hornless, 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: and suddenly they can't handle antibiotics. I mean, what next 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: do we breed it? Do we grow a super spud 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: here in New Zealand and all of a sudden that 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: causes men to grow more nasal here and bushy eyebrows? 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, all sorts of things could go wrong. So 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I think we've already got 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: a modification as it is, so I think this one's 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: a little way away for now. 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: So what is going on here is this? Is there 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: a move amongst the farming community to oppose this? 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, beef and lamb, I mean they'd be I think 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: that'd be fair to say that they speak for a 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: good percentage of farmers. Venison had Venison farmer dunk and 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Harmon today out of Mount Summers. So yeah, yeah, look, look, look, look, 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: just get it right through. I think that I think 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the feeling is get it right first. You know this, 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: You know, we don't really know what you know. We 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: can never be one hundred percent sure when you start 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: marking around with jeans, can you. So I think that's 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm quite surprised. I'm quite impressed, you know, 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: because certainly when you when we were talking about you know, 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: crops that we want to be pest resistant and herbicide 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: tolerant and all that. You know, surely, you know there's 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: certain things that we would like to progress more quickly 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: in the egg and hort sector. But yeah, I just 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: think it's a bit of a cautious approach here across 48 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: the board. 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So is there how much of our international reputation 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: gets a bit of a premium because we are GM free? 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. You know, you know, for instance, Venison 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: is one of those that trades on that, and you know, 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: I think it's like it's, you know, it's a bit 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: of a Pandora's box if we open this up, you know, 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: and you know, the potential for the spread of genetically 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: modified crops. There's all sorts of things here, But our 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: reputation is sort of clean and green and quite simple. 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: It would be massive, I think in terms of the 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: overall perception on a global basis. 60 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: Now, can I put it to you, homsh that the 61 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: reason I suspect the reason that New Zealand VERST has 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: piped up about this now is because they're preparing for 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: next year's election and they want to court the farmer's vote. 64 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: This is why they're doing this, This is why they're 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: starting to make noises about Fonterra. What do you think? 66 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: Oh? I can only but agree with you, Heather. I 67 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: think you're very astudent on the money there and starting 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: to make noise at the right time with the farmers 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: who they have, you know, to a certain degree, they've 70 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: got some of them in their court. So yeah, yeah, 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: I think you're right. 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: Oh, Hamish, thank you. I'll take that and run with it. 73 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to dispute you when you make 74 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: so much sense, you know, hand it back to you 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: on a plate. Thank you. 76 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Listen, you you're welcome, as I say, stay on the 77 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: show as long as you want. Hamus Mackay. Jamie's going 78 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: to come back. He better be very agreeable when he 79 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: comes back. I was just going to swap him out 80 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: for Hamish anyway he's feeling in. Hamish is filling in 81 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: for Jamie obviously on the country. 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 83 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: news talks they'd be from four pm weeks, or follow 84 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.