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Speaker 1: We have at last arrived at the real deal. The

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Speaker 1: America's Cup has a go, Team New Zealand versus Anyos

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Speaker 1: early Sunday morning our time. It's the first time in

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Speaker 1: sixty years, by the way, a British shot has been

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Speaker 1: challenging for the Cup itself. Team New Zealand's Grant Dalton

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Speaker 1: back with this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: So, pre regatta, if you believed all the hype it

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Speaker 1: was going to be you and Lunar Rossa. What did

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Speaker 1: Aenios do well?

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Speaker 2: Pre regatta hype included us. Actually, we pretty much expected

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Speaker 2: it would be Lunar Roster as well, and until the

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Speaker 2: last race, I still thought it was probably going to

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Speaker 2: be Lunar Rosa. I think actually Lunarrosi didn't sail very well.

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Speaker 2: I mean it starts looked a bit not very good,

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Speaker 2: and when they broke their traveler earlier on in the regatta,

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Speaker 2: I think they put some structural restraints on the boat

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Speaker 2: so that they couldn't sheet on in that amount of

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Speaker 2: breeze quite as much as they would normally. Now that's

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Speaker 2: just our feeling for it, so that impaired the speed

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Speaker 2: a little bit. But to be fair to any of

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Speaker 2: us band through massively through around and I credit that

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Speaker 2: to first of all the quality of the people, but

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Speaker 2: also to the connection with Messi's Formula one team and

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Speaker 2: their ability to diagnose data and make improvement by from

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Speaker 2: the data.

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Speaker 1: So you had been able to see on a screen

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Speaker 1: on a bit of paper whatever them improving, and where

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Speaker 1: they've improved, and probably how they've improved.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've only got the data from when they race,

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Speaker 2: and of course unless you've got your own data in

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Speaker 2: the same time, you've really got no judge. Now we

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Speaker 2: have a little bit of that, but not a lot,

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Speaker 2: and we can see that the boats are pretty equal,

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Speaker 2: and that's no surprise really at this level. You know,

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Speaker 2: you'd expect the boats, particularly in the second generation of

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Speaker 2: the at seventy fives, to be quite close. But we've

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Speaker 2: really only seen them in one condition, in their sort

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Speaker 2: of fast form, which is in windy conditions. And we're

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Speaker 2: headed into the weekend. Now back to the more normal,

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Speaker 2: which is light conditions. And to be fair to learn

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Speaker 2: a rossa there both looked like it was set up

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Speaker 2: for the light conditions. You know, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: be halfway house because you sort of need official foul

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Speaker 2: and they ended up with really windy conditions, so they're

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Speaker 2: a bit unlucky in that way too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how much window is there for variability in

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Speaker 1: conditions on any given day?

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Speaker 2: Not a lot, because you know, really the night before,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's one or two knots. But if it's

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Speaker 2: going to be misstrou through the Gulf of Lyon or

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Speaker 2: in the area, then you know it's going to be windy.

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Speaker 2: And you know that two or three days before, and

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Speaker 2: we know that there's a mistral that has just left

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Speaker 2: the area basically over the last twenty four hours, and

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Speaker 2: now we're going into a lighter period. We're also quite

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Speaker 2: late in the year, being October, so it's autumn, and

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Speaker 2: that tends to stop the sea breeze coming in very

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Speaker 2: strong because the land doesn't heat up as much.

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Speaker 1: Aniosa's talk of being shagged worn out a lot of

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Speaker 1: racing taking a lot out of it. Is that real

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Speaker 1: or is that sort of hype?

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Speaker 2: Well, it'll be easy to say it's tight, but they

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Speaker 2: did have a hell of a series and they will

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Speaker 2: have taken a little bit out of them. I guess,

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Speaker 2: having been in this position that position ourselves, you've got

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Speaker 2: to put the lous Verton cupp as greater than it

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Speaker 2: is to win it behind you pretty quickly, and remember

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Speaker 2: that's only just a stepping stone along the way. And

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Speaker 2: I think we were guilty in two thousand and seven

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Speaker 2: of winning the Louis Vuton kind of certing for me

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Speaker 2: on a first try and then really we peek through

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Speaker 2: the Louis Verton. So although they're very conscious of that

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Speaker 2: and it's a very obvious thing, it is quite hard

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Speaker 2: to get up again. Now you look at the clip

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Speaker 2: side of that point. We haven't raced for the month,

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Speaker 2: so it's quite hard for us to get up as well.

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Speaker 2: But I think they will be tired, yes.

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Speaker 1: So if you had that was where I was leading.

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Speaker 1: If you had to choose between having raced and being

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Speaker 1: tired versus being free not having race, where would you rather.

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Speaker 2: Be race and being tired and you know race and

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Speaker 2: niney you're tired and rotating your guys enough to make

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Speaker 2: sure that you know you're still ready for the Cup.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's definitely an advantage with racing because you racing.

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Speaker 2: Racing training is training. But the flip side of that

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Speaker 2: is that we get to develop our boat and we

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Speaker 2: have a different boat marginally different boat than we had

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Speaker 2: in around Robins that we won. We most definitely have

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Speaker 2: a faster boat than we had, I think more significantly

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Speaker 2: from the way I see it is that it was

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Speaker 2: and it needs to be. This is a much improved

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Speaker 2: team that attended the Cup in twenty twenty one, a

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Speaker 2: significantly better team than won the Cup in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: one on Auckland. And we'll, you know, let's wait and

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Speaker 2: see how that goes for us come Saturday. But we'll

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Speaker 2: need to be sharp too, because these in their tails

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Speaker 2: are up and you know they're going to be hard

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Speaker 2: to be with.

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Speaker 1: What level of confidence do you go in.

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Speaker 2: Crickyx, that's question. I'm confident in the work that we've done.

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Speaker 2: We're as well prepared as we can be. We're comfortable

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Speaker 2: with the boat I think as a yachting and now

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Speaker 2: it's up to the sailors. Right as a sailing team.

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Speaker 2: We are infinitely better than we were in Auckland. So

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Speaker 2: my confidence in where we are is as high as

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Speaker 2: it can be. Whether that translates into actually being quicker

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Speaker 2: than any of us on the water, I really don't

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Speaker 2: know yet. We'll find out soon enough.

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Speaker 1: I reckon you will go well, we're on your side

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Speaker 1: and good use of the term criky Dix Grant Dalton

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Speaker 1: out of Barcelona this morning.

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