1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Allie Jones, Red pr good evening, Alie, gooday, how are 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: you right? Good? Thank you? And Nick Legget's with us 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: to Infrastruction New Zealand. Hey Nick, hello, So how do 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: we feel about taxpayer funding for a revamped a bit 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: of lipstick on Eden Park to the tune of one 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars? This is what they have proposed. Auckland 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: councils get to decide. They're going to decide on Thursday, Ali, 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: how do you feel? 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: Well? 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: Look, I'm stoked about our own what do you call it? Stadium? 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: Thank you? That's the word I'm looking for, which is 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: due to open next year. And I think one of 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: the things that a number of people have been saying 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: for a while is, because of course these things always 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: create conversations and arguments and disagreements, is that it's never 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: going to get me cheaper, right, So whatever the decision is, 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: I think it needs to be made. One of the 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: things that I've noticed just reading up a bit about this, 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: because you know, I don't really care about what's built 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: in Auckland, Ryan, is that the transport is a real 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: issue here. And you tell me this, but apparently there 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: are limited transport options and limited by the Kingsland station. 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: I do know where that is and I have used it, 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: and I would have thought that a stadium in the 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: middle of the city is the way to go. Isn't 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: that going to bring in many economic benefits? 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, although we do have the supposedly we do have 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: the City rail Link coming which should help, which should 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: help with with that situation. But the other issue here 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: is the one hundred million dollars from the government that 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: they're wanting that. 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean these things are expensive. 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: I agree with Ali though, that make it a decision 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: and get it going. 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: But I do care about what goes on in Auckland. 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: Such a massive part of our economy and a massive 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: part of our country, so they do need to get 38 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: this right. And also I think it I think being 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: connected to public transport and other transport, you know, you 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: think about connection to the shore, new connection hopefully to 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: the North Shore, another harbor bridge option or tunnel, and also, 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: as you say, the city rail link. 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: It's really important this is central. It's also really important that. 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: We don't just see it as a stadium in isolation. 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: What can go around it, Places for people to work, 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 4: places for people to shop, places for people to live. 47 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: We've got to stop thinking about these things as sort 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 4: of singular pieces of infrastructure. 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: It's about what can you grow around it? 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: And yeah, look, I'm city center all the way, and 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: we've got to build the sort of connections that we 52 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: need so people can get to it and get around it. 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: You are so right, though, Nick, about changing the mindset 54 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: about it just being a stadium. That was a big 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: part of what we did in christ Church. So you know, 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: we didn't even use the words stadium. We use the 57 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: phrase multi use arena or multi use stadium. And now 58 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: they're calling it a multi functional arena. And you're absolutely right. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: It cannot be a place that you know, lights up 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: when there's an event and then dies when there's nothing happening. 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: That's just not the way to do it. 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Hey, I've seem to remember a figure of about six 63 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars for Takaha. Is that on budget? And 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: how far far how far away is it from opening? 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, on budget, on time, six hundred and eighty three 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: million all up, and that was with government contribution as well. 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: So the council put four hundred and fifty three in 68 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: and government put in two hundred and thirty and that 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: came from a number of different funds and things after 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: the earthquakes. They started building it in April twenty twenty 71 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: two and it is on track to be open in 72 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: April twenty twenty six. 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: That sounds like a steal to me right now. I'm 74 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: just reading about in Brisbane, they've announced today their Olympic 75 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Stadium opening twenty thirty two. The cost is three point 76 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: eight billion Australian for a sixty thousand capacity. 77 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: But twenty twenty two it started, and you know how 78 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: construction costs have gone up, so you know, with those 79 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: sorts of figures, it's not unreasonable to expect that kind 80 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: of cost. 81 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. Ellie Jones read pr nic leg Get 82 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: back in just a few moments and we're going to 83 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: pick Allie's brain about some quite controversial comments on disability 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: car parks. Allie Jones and Nick Leggett on the huddle tonight. Nick, 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: you were obviously former mayor of Puttidor and some big 86 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: boundary electric boundary changes have taken place which will affect Mana, 87 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: which is where Pottidor is. Give people a sense of 88 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: what the change means for you know, you your average voter. 89 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: Well, yes, I mean Mana was formed in nineteen ninety 90 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: six when MMP came on the scene, and it was 91 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 4: great because we finally had an electorate that covered the 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: whole of put into a city which is now a 93 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: city of approaching sixty thousand people. Not insignificant, and actually 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: I think it helped bring the city together because Mana, 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: well Putty door is very diverse, lots of different socioeconomic groups, 96 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: lots of different cultural and ethnic groups, and I think 97 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: we've been more together as a result of having one electra. 98 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: So I'm not wrapped at This takes us back to 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: first pass the post days when the northern part of 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: the city went up to Carpody Carpety Coast has its 101 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: own electric now with this new bit of put it on, 102 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: and obviously the or Hardy electorate really gets sort of. 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: Split three three ways. 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: But it goes to South, it goes to Wellington Central, 105 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: and then quite a big bit goes into Mana. So look, 106 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: I've got no problem with unifying North Wellington and put 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: it on. I mean, I'm a big fan of amalgamation 108 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: in the region. We only need one council here, so 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: you know, perhaps that might bring things along there. 110 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, so sad for me, but I sort of understand. 111 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 4: You know, Wellington of the region is not growing like 112 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: other parts of the country, so we've lost an electric seat. 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: That's the consequence people when when you don't grow your 114 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: population and you don't grow your economy and you don't 115 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: get it together as a region, you lose stuff. 116 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: And we've got to do better there. 117 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Ellie, I want to talk to you about the disability 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: car parks thing. So is how's you? 119 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: It's been challenging. Thanks for asking. My god, the pearl 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: necklace clutching and outcry was just extraordinary. 121 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: Ryan. 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what you understood from from what was reported? 123 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: Why was it even a story? What I said was, 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: does anyone ever see these five or so car parks 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: mobility car parks along Rolston av in christ Church? Does 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: anyone ever see them used? Because you know, I'm down 127 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: there a bit. I cycle down there just quietly and 128 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: go to the Loomier Cinema and the Art Center and 129 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: the gardens, and I never or very very rarely see 130 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: any vehicle in there at all. So I just posted it. 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: Does anyone ever see it? It's crazy if they're not used, well, 132 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: I've been told to resign. My behavior is appalling. I've 133 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: been despicable, behaved in an entitled and privileged way. And 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: the echo chamber pylon was what you'd expect on something 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: like Facebook. So what I did was engage with everyone. 136 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: I don't do the post and ghost things. So aged 137 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: and I repeated back what people were accusing me of. 138 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: So are you saying that elective members should not ask 139 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: questions about et cetera? Set do you know? I had 140 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: people just not even bother responding. So they have a poke, 141 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: they have a go, and then they just don't engage 142 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: and it's just cowardly. 143 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Really, did you get an answer to your question? Did? 144 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean? It has anyone's yes? 145 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: Right? 146 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: So what is it? 147 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: And it was great and it was great. The answer 148 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: was yes. So I had one person come on and 149 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: say no, I'd never seen anyone in them, and then 150 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: I had about half a dozen to eight come on 151 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: and say yes I use them, or yes, my husband 152 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: and I use them when we go to the gardens. 153 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: Another woman said yes, and we need more at the 154 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: hospital because I can never find one there. And so 155 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: it was actually a really good conversation on my page 156 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: until we got these bloody pearl necklace handbag clutching, you know, 157 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: outraged people just turning it into a political storm that 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: it didn't need to. So yes, it was useful. 159 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: I think. I Look, I'm with you, Nick. I don't 160 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: know about you, but I'm with Ali. You should be 161 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: able to ask questions like that. You know, it doesn't 162 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: matter how controversial it might seem. You need to be 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: able to ask some basic questions about whether a city 164 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: is functioning well or not. 165 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: I'm completely with Ali that the job of an elected representative. 166 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: We want to ask more questions in this country. There's 167 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: too much head nodding. Now. 168 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: I don't know whether what the answer to Ali's question is, 169 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. The principle is that you're elected to 170 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: ask questions on half of your community, and there's no 171 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 4: You shouldn't assume any agenda from a question. 172 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: You should just take out at face value and answer it. 173 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: So Ali, congratulations. We need more people like you in 174 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: public office, and all power to you. 175 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: Thank you. 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: There you go. 177 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: How's that does work? 178 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to yeah, I'm going to run for there now. Thanks. 179 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: That's awesome, all right. 180 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: Ellie Jones Red pared Nicleiget Infrastructure New Zealand on the 181 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: huddle tonight. Thanks guys for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 182 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 183 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio