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Speaker 1: On the huddle of me this eving go Josephigani, Child

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Speaker 1: fun CEO and Trishurson. Shurson Willis pre Hello you too. Hello.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to sleep a train?

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Speaker 2: Josie?

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Speaker 3: I love them? Yeah, And actually, I mean the flights

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Speaker 3: have become so expensive. If it was reasonable, I would

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Speaker 3: definitely do that. Saves on a hotel. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: very romantic going on the train, but I don't want

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Speaker 3: it to be subsidized. And I think you made that

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Speaker 3: point about the train lines where you to?

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Speaker 1: Who are yeah to?

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Speaker 3: Who are you where?

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Speaker 1: It's basically subsidized eighty How much would you pay?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I would At the moment if you want to fly

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Speaker 3: you think, oh, I've got a meeting next week, I've

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Speaker 3: got to fly out in near New Zealand. I mean

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Speaker 3: you're paying the best part of two hundred hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty bucks one way. Anything less than that, yeah, would

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Speaker 3: be with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you stay on a hotel cost yet but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want a good night sleep? What about U?

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Speaker 2: Trisha? Well, I think you would be lucky to get

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Speaker 2: one way for two point fifty on in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: at the moment. Often when you look, you know prices

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Speaker 2: under three p fifty. You need to find anything under

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Speaker 2: three fifty. Would you go to Wellington last week? Booked

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Speaker 2: a week out? This is for business travel, but it's

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Speaker 2: a week out. It cost over eight hundred dollars wearing back,

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Speaker 2: and that's what the prices are like through Wellington, which

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Speaker 2: is a lot.

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Speaker 1: You consider jet Star.

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Speaker 2: I did consider jet Star, but probably like a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, when you've got airpoints with Air New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: you're like, well, hey, you know, but a jet Star.

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Speaker 2: My daughter is in Wellington at the moment you need.

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Speaker 2: We've been flying her up on jet Star and the

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Speaker 2: savings are really significant until.

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Speaker 3: Until it doesn't Until Jetstar doesn't turn up on time

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Speaker 3: and you have to book an urgent flight to get

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Speaker 3: somewhere because you go into a meeting, well, I'm just shot.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that either, because

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Speaker 2: that has been one of the biggest gripes that I've

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Speaker 2: had recently with a New Zealand is on time performance.

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Speaker 2: And for instance, last time I flew to Wellington, the

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Speaker 2: plane was forty five minutes taking late taking off getting

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Speaker 2: down there, and a couple of times in the last

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Speaker 2: year I've been on a flight to christ Church and

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Speaker 2: business travelers up the front in a in a kind

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Speaker 2: way have called the hostess over and said, I'm really sorry,

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Speaker 2: but I need to let you know I've now actually

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Speaker 2: missed all of the business meetings I was flying to

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Speaker 2: christ Church.

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Speaker 3: For Oh no, I stopped whinding, tosh no.

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Speaker 2: But this is this is this is, this is why

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Speaker 2: on time performances really all.

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Speaker 1: This is part of the reason people will be flying

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Speaker 1: down the night before and booking a hotel room. Right.

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Speaker 2: But back to the sleeper train that these are really

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Speaker 2: you go to Europe, a sleeper train really really popular.

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Speaker 2: I think in New Zealand it's probably a great idea

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Speaker 2: if you've got the price right, I think, and maybe you.

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Speaker 1: Have the right kind of bed because New Zealand they'll

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Speaker 1: they'll try to distinct version eight like a stretcher or something.

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of my youth going up and

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Speaker 2: down from Tomina Nui to Auckland on the Silver Fern.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and used to absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: It was a great trip.

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Speaker 1: There's a good time. Actually, listen, are you into the

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Speaker 1: drink driving crackdown, Josie?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think the evidence shows that if

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Speaker 3: you if you crack down on drink and drugs, you

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Speaker 3: are going to reduce crashes and fatalities and so on.

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Speaker 3: You could say the same about speed, and I know

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Speaker 3: there's always like evidence one way and the other. The

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Speaker 3: problem with the speed issue is that, yep, you can

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Speaker 3: if you reduce speed, it might be that there's more

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Speaker 3: like that. So I think this makes sense. And one

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Speaker 3: thing I was thinking about with this is that when

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Speaker 3: a good enough debate about what you do about drugs

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Speaker 3: and driving. There's a lot about alcohol and driving, but

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Speaker 3: actually in New Zealand, a lot of it is drugs

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Speaker 3: and driving to cause the accidents. And there was this

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Speaker 3: but what are we going to do if we legalize marijuana.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's driving, you know, doped up to their eyeballs and crashing.

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Speaker 3: So I do think it was I don't like the targeting.

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Speaker 3: Why targeting, the idea that you've got to you've got

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Speaker 3: a target to get enough you know, breathalyzers and whatever

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Speaker 3: it's really easy to you know, speed a little bit

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Speaker 1: So they're talking about the speeding tickets, the spending tickets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if they do it with this too, where

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Speaker 3: you've got to go.

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Speaker 1: The speeding tickets is different. The speeding tickets is you

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Speaker 1: must issue this many tickets, whereas the breath testing is

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Speaker 1: you must just do this many breath tests, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: you must ping as many people.

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Speaker 2: Trish, I really love this one. I'm all about the targets.

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Speaker 2: I think that's great. Two, if you step in and

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Speaker 2: think about what this is about overall with the police,

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Speaker 2: it's about visibility. So this government has been all about visibility.

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Speaker 2: Say go into Central Auckland, which I did recently on

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Speaker 2: a Saturday. There were police on the beach everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's a completely different experience, which.

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Speaker 2: Was I immediately thought, wow, there's a lot of police

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Speaker 2: came under a flyover. There were the police setting up.

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Speaker 2: I think what was going to be a booze bus

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Speaker 2: and I thought, actually, that's that is excellent. And I

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Speaker 2: completely agree with Josie about the need for the drug testing,

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Speaker 2: but I think that is a big part of this.

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Speaker 2: Now there is the technology, there's a way to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fantastic. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Agree, Okay, guys will take a break, come back shortly. Right,

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Speaker 1: you're back with a huddle. We've got Trishuson and Joseph Agani. Trish,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of act not being at the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a real shame either way, whether

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Speaker 2: and turned it down. I think now more than ever,

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Speaker 2: to be able to do it in a really adult

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Speaker 2: way and just to show respect for each other by

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Speaker 2: you know, being at these at these major events and

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Speaker 2: hearing what everyone's going to say. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it's a real shame. You know, often with these things

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Speaker 2: it is cock up over conspiracy. But either way, I

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Speaker 2: think it's it's a real shame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Josie, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a little bit he said, She said,

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Speaker 3: I mean that absolutely, it looks like ACT weren't invited.

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Speaker 3: But the noise, it'll just be noise to most in

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Speaker 3: the public. But I think because the bigger issue really is,

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Speaker 3: as you say, Trish, that they're just not really talking

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Speaker 3: to each other. And that's Party Marty too, who are

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Speaker 3: winding up the genocidal government and so on. So the

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Speaker 3: best thing you can do if you're being accused of

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Speaker 3: being a genocidal racist government is just front up and

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Speaker 3: be reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so totally.

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Speaker 3: If I was ACT, I would have I mean, okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe they just found out, but I would.

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Speaker 1: Have weakened found I would go I would have asked

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Speaker 1: and called them up and canceled everything and gong because

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Speaker 1: I think that show is the most important thing I've

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Speaker 2: But in David Siemour's defense. I've never known him not

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Speaker 2: to be prepared to turn up, and I think about

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Speaker 2: you know, Whitehungy, even earlier this year, he is always

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Speaker 3: I think there's a bigger issue here about what the

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Speaker 3: hell is going on with this Treaty Principals bill that

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Speaker 3: will never go anywhere because no one's going to vote

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Speaker 3: for it. And I think ACT they've got to realize

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Speaker 3: and to Party Marty too. But ACT and to Party

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Speaker 3: Marty have more in common than they think they do.

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Speaker 3: And it is that devolution thing. We're one of the

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Speaker 3: most centralized governments in the OECD in terms of tax

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Speaker 1: You just basically spelled out how to kill both parties

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, hate though, I mean, think about charter schools.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly that fits perfectly. Into that. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately it ends up where we are.

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Speaker 1: How sure are you, Trish though, that Chris Luxen is

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Speaker 1: going to kill it. If it came to the point

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Speaker 2: I think, but I don't want.

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Speaker 1: To have a big fight about it.

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Speaker 3: And it's the same with the race issue. They're going

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Speaker 3: this is not us, and they don't like it when

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Speaker 3: to Party Marty do it, and they don't like it

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Speaker 3: when Act does it. So that step down, you know,

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Speaker 3: calms the farm. Then National do not want where this

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Speaker 2: I think that's the bigger thing. I think they've got

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Speaker 2: the line. But they've been very clear from the start

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Speaker 2: and I haven't heard any of them dev eight from that.

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Speaker 3: And John Luxon's got John Key in his ear.

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Speaker 2: It's no, it's not a surprise to me because we're boring. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know me. I just love Auckland. I've always adored Auckland.

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Speaker 2: It's my home city and I've always thought it was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But but, but the grand Lady has lost a lot

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Speaker 2: of sparkle since the pandemic, and I'm not sure that

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Speaker 2: pumping at the moment. It's really awesome. But when you

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Speaker 2: put it up against some of the cities on the list,

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Speaker 2: we're not quite there yet. Look, there's a.

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Speaker 3: Been a nightlife in Raratonga than there is in any

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Speaker 3: New Zealand city as today. Yeah, I mean there's more

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Speaker 3: going on there right. It's just so depressing and you

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Speaker 3: feel like going, oh, why is that?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: You know, oh New York doesn't have the books.

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Speaker 1: But have we have we ever? Haven't we always been

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Speaker 1: the place that you come home to have your children here,

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Speaker 1: you know?

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Speaker 3: Such a pressing though, be a bit better than that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be the place you come right there.

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Speaker 2: I want to put in a big plate here though,

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Speaker 2: I'd have to say, yeah, you cannot beat a night

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Speaker 2: out in Coordoradika Russell, a night out at the Joke

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Speaker 2: of Olbra. I mean that's we make my view with

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Speaker 2: the beast in the world we make it.

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Speaker 3: Just say that we do make our fun wherever WEE can.

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