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Speaker 1: Afternoon. The Prime Minister has met King Charles for the

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Speaker 1: first time. They're both at the Commonwealth Heads of Government

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Speaker 1: meeting and some more, and Christopher Luxen says his meeting

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Speaker 1: with the King went well.

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Speaker 2: He was very knowledgeable about a number of issues, very

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Speaker 2: knowledgeable about New Zealand, very interested in New Zealand. And

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Speaker 2: you know, it was a very natural conversation and it

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Speaker 2: was just the two of us sitting outside and having

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Speaker 2: a chat on a couple of seats.

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Speaker 1: News dogs be political leaders. To Jason wools is in

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Speaker 1: some war for us? Hey, Jason, good afternoon, Heather. Do

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Speaker 1: we know what the two of them talked about?

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Speaker 3: We have very little information as to what actually they

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Speaker 3: talked about. I mean, there is this apparently, according to

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister, there is a bit of a royal

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Speaker 3: protocol where you don't actually talk about what was said,

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Speaker 3: but you can kind of give a sort of vague

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Speaker 3: implication as what they talked about. And as you just

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Speaker 3: heard in that clip, they talked about how much the

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Speaker 3: King likes New Zealand, how much he has a deep

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Speaker 3: knowledge for it, and the Prime Minister said that he

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Speaker 3: was quite charming. So we don't we know quite a

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Speaker 3: lot of surface level information such as that, but anythink

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Speaker 3: a little bit deeper, we probably.

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Speaker 1: Won't know apologize over the navy ship sinking.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, he's sort of always has apologized in a sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's said from the beginning. He said, he's

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Speaker 3: made his apologies clear to the Samoan governments and that

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Speaker 3: has been a theme throughout this whole time he's been

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Speaker 3: in Samoa for the Commonwealth Heads Forum. He talked about

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Speaker 3: it yesterday when he was addressing press. He talked about

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Speaker 3: it again today. But interestingly, interestingly, on the other side

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Speaker 3: of town, we're talking to Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters

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Speaker 3: who said that there is no apology necessary essentially, and

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Speaker 3: we just got finished with that stand up. So it

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Speaker 3: sounds like the tour on a slightly different footing when

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Speaker 3: it comes to that. But of course the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: says he's already conveyed those apologies, so it's already been done.

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Speaker 1: So tell me what's the vibe that you're getting there

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Are they angry about the thing going down?

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Speaker 3: Oh? But the thing is it's a it's literally on

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Speaker 3: the other side of the island, so we can't physically

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Speaker 3: see it, and so there isn't this looming shadow from

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Speaker 3: where we're sitting. However, obviously it is metaphorically looming over this,

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Speaker 3: over Choggham. I mean there is a New Zealand Navy

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Speaker 3: vessel that sunk in their waters. I mean there is

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Speaker 3: a lot of climate mitigation work going on. Luxon was

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Speaker 3: very clear yesterday that it has not been as bad

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Speaker 3: as he thought it was or any of the initial

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Speaker 3: estimates in terms of the environmental damage, and he said

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Speaker 3: he's talking that up to a big a good win

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Speaker 3: and of course the fact that nobody died. So at

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Speaker 3: this stage, because there is a very limited environmental damage,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like there is overwhelming upset. There was,

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Speaker 3: as I understand, supposed to be a protest planned around that,

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Speaker 3: but that didn't even go ahead today. So you know,

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Speaker 3: if a protest doesn't go ahead, you can't really assume

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Speaker 3: that things are really out of control with anger.

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Speaker 1: There's some very interesting that Charles and his speech actually

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Speaker 1: addressed this issue of his government over in the UK

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Speaker 1: paying reparations for slavery, historic slavery. Has it been any

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Speaker 1: reaction to that.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the Prime Minister. No, we were pretty

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Speaker 3: focused on just I mean, there was a lot of

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Speaker 3: climate change chat that commentary that King Charles had in

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Speaker 3: his speech, and we briefly try to bring it up

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Speaker 3: with Winston Peters, who is less than forthcoming to reporters

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Speaker 3: about whether New Zealand has to or what his reaction

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Speaker 3: was to that. But it's the sort of thing. You know,

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Speaker 3: you have these deliberate lines in these set piece speeches,

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Speaker 3: especially from a monarch, that are specifically designed to set

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Speaker 3: a news agenda and start a conversation, and you can

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Speaker 3: bet your bottom dollar that's exactly what the press team

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Speaker 3: and the royal in Castle Windsor we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant. Jason, thanks very much, enjoy your time. There's news Talks.

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Speaker 1: He'd be political leader to Jason Woolsey.

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