1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: For Mental Health Awareness Week, we catch up with Craig 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: wiggi Wigan. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Mental Health Awareness Week is great because it 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: brings a lot of stuff to the front of people's mind. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we spend every day working on mental health 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: and I think that's the most important thing that if 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: you can just take five minutes out of your day 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: and connect with somebody, especially somebody from your past, we 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: will just connect with yourself and find something to be 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: gracious about or something you'd like to change and work on. 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: That's really important. So every day is a mental health day, 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: just like it's a day where you eat food. It's 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: a day you should you should look at where you're 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: trucking and how you're trucking, and what changes you might 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: like to make, and what's achievable and what you can 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: control and what you can't control. 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: You've connected with many farmers with this Lean on a 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Gate over the years, but an exciting development which starts 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: right here in mid Canterbury. This month they partnership with 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Mates in Construction. Tell us about this. 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a labor of love for the last 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: two or three years. I've spent I've spent a lot 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: of time traveling around the country with Slade McFarland x 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: Mary all Black who work for Matson Construction, and we've 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: had a fair few of the Royal service industries and 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: stock agents and vents, agronomous et cetera have said to 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: me for a long time, you know, we're worried about 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: our clients and colleagues, but we're not trained to have 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: those conversations. And so for us it's been a big thing. 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: So there's no point just training people and then thrown 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: into the wolves. With the Mates and Construction program that 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: we've managed to get across the line, the memory and 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: of understanding and partnership is that we will actually have 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: some community awareness meetings. Then basically those people that want 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: to go on and have be connectors or safe talkers, 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: we can train them over four or five hours to 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: be in that space where they're not there to fax people, 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: but they're there to actually facilitate help and know how 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: to have those conversations. And then from there those that 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: really want to get involved and become a CIS train, 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: which is suicide Assist training, and that's a two day 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: program and that's fairly full on. 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: But that. 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: Helps the communities, help themselves and behind that there's eight 45 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: hundred numbers that the connectors can bring if they need help. 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: There is regular revisits from myself or makes Construction to 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: see how they're getting on and what they will, what 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: they're seeing out there, and also case management for anybody 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: that needs it as well. So this program is something 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: that's been proven in the construction industry and there's so 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: much energy between rural New Zealand and the construction industry. 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: It's just a good but I'm just I'm going to 53 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: beg you please take advantage of this. We've put a 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: lot of work into this and we really want to 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: help our communities help themselves. 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Have you done a bit of groundwork on this already? 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: I remember it was a couple of months ago you 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: had that function at the MESA. 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have, and we've been doing quite a bit 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: of work in this space and at the moment. On 61 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: the twenty ninth of October at the MSA, we will 62 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: be hosting the first community awareness training for all of 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: those smaller businesses that we can't get around. All of 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: the school boards of trustees or sports people that want 65 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: to come, and that's just a forty five minute to 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: an hour meeting and that will be at a half 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: past ten on the twenty ninth, and then a cup 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: of tea in the s gone afterwards, I guess. But 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: then from there we'll find out connectors and we'll bring 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 2: them back and train them in the future. So we're 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: also visiting some pretty big businesses as well, and I 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: know rain and irrigation and planes irrogation for example, both 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: those companies are shown some great interest. There's other companies 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: that are really really looking to be available in that space. 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: Hope for those bigger companies, we will actually come to 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: your workshop and do a toolbox meeting or a morning 77 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: meeting or a lunchtime meeting or something like that, and 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: do the whole the whole organization. So if you've got 79 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: you know, if you've got a fear few people, we 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: really need to do the whole lot and then find 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: where those strong people are that want to be in 82 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: that connector space and take them further on. Those people 83 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: then get populated throughout the community Lucan and they're available 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: to everybody and everyone, and they recognize people that need 85 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: to be helped. You know, it's a privilege to be 86 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: able to help some people that need help, logan, and 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: a lot of people want to be able to help. 88 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean, we've all been touched by suicide. You know, 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: somebody's either about to go through it, or have gone 90 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: through it or experienced it in some way in their life. 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: And you do anything to be able to help somebody 92 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: that's got poor mental health, just like you would open 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: the door for somebody on crutches. So I mean, let's 94 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: get on with it. You know, Mid Canterbury. We're trialing 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: this here because we know it's needed here and this 96 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: is as I said, I've worked really hard for this 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: along with Slade, and we just really want to make 98 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: sure that this works and then we can spread it 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: out throughout the rest of the communities in New Zealand. 100 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: To take a bit deep on that, Wigi, what are 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: you seeing and hearing in the sense that often we 102 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: consider ourselves rather isolated here in Mid Canterbury, which in 103 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: a way can be a good thing. 104 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Made look honestly, when we actually analyzed per head 105 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: capita results and mental health and well being, Mid Canterbury 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: actually struggles in that space. You know, we have a 107 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: lot of reasons. Yeah, you wouldn't you would think that 108 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: that wouldn't be the case. But we have a lot 109 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: of reasons for that. You know, the isolation that the 110 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: poor price is up to now, just a lot of 111 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: things getting to a doctor for example. You know there's 112 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: a synergy between the Northwestern and mental health. There's all 113 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: sorts of things that you can actually put down to 114 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: Mid Canterbury. And I mean you've only got to talk 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: to someone like Pup Chamberlain or some of the counselors 116 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: and they'll tell you that the workload's not reducing. So 117 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: if we can help by strengthening our community in that 118 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: space and then hopefully reduce some of those effects on people, 119 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: I think I think that would be a good thing 120 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: to get across the line here. So yeah, the results, 121 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: not wanting to scare people, but the results for Mid 122 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Canterbury aren't that great. And that's why you say, I 123 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: live in this area and we're starting it here because 124 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: it's easy. It's actually probably well needed in this area. 125 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of transient workers, there's a lot of 126 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: migrant workers. There's a lot of pressure on those people. 127 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure on just mums and dads 128 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: and people in general. You know, the cost of living 129 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: huge and you know, just to drive from Methano to 130 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: es Burden for a child's sports day or something like that, 131 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: that there's a cost involved in that. So there's plenty 132 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: of things that put tax on people's mind and nobody's 133 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: immune to that. And at any one time in life 134 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: you may may struggle and that can be a whole 135 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: lot of effects. So you know, there's there's like I say, 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: it's it's nobody's immune to mental health. We've all got 137 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: it and at times we just need a little bit 138 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: of help through the doors. 139 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: So pretty keen to prove this concept and see it 140 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: rolled out through the rest of the country. How do 141 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: we help y out? How do we hook into this WIGI? 142 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, well, basically send me an email Wiggy at lean 143 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: on Agate dot Co, Dottie and said, and register your 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: interest in this and we'll get a community training into 145 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: your business or you can attend that one on the 146 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: twenty nine at the MSA. So once again, just get 147 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: in touch with me and we'll make that happen. But 148 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: just reach out and you know, we're I hate to 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: beg for money, but we could do with some finance 150 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: and fold in this too. So you're a big company 151 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: and want to get behind this or a small company 152 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: even and you want to help out. You know that 153 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: would be great too. But honestly, you know, we have 154 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: the ethos that strong people make strong communities, and strong 155 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: communities make stronger people. So if we can do that, 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: if we can put that into gear here and lead 157 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: by example in that space, I'd be pretty proud of that. 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, right on. Is there a cost to register for 159 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: that session on the twenty ninth, No, not at this. 160 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: Stage, not for the smaller businesses and in company. So 161 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: we are looking to see what what will happen in 162 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: the big company space later on. But you know, you 163 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: can't put I asked Brad Olsen from him from Metrics 164 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: one day, what sort of price do you put on 165 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: poor mental health and well being in a business? And 166 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 2: he said, we can't quantify it, but he said it's huge, 167 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: and that's one of the biggest changes you can make 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: to businesses. Have a better culture and have a better 169 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: mental health program. You know, at any one time, you know, 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: up to six or seven percent of people are thinking 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: about suicide. If you have a program in place, that 172 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: can be halved. So it's it's a it's a you 173 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: know this is These are that that that we can 174 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: quantify too. So it's a matter of taking that taking 175 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: that step through the door. And the door's open now. 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: And as I said, we're offering it to everybody and 177 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: anybody just please just reach out. 178 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: Let's get a lot of people through the doors of 179 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the m s A in a couple of weeks time. 180 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: Look forward to keeping tabs on this one. Will you 181 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: got on you mate? 182 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks very much, And like I said, this is 183 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: for you guys, so please take advantage of it.