1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: And ABC per Dollie Peterson is with us this afternoon. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Happy Australia Day, Happy Australia Day, Jack. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Although it's becoming less and less popular to actually say that. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Even this morning, I was at my bike bar class 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: and its let's play all this Australian music to celebrate 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: the public holiday. It's just so divisive. And when he 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: has played that clip in the world wise and that's 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: what we've got. We've got these rallies across the country, 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: either for Australia Day, the March for Australia or then 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: these Invasion Day rallies. It's it actually is becoming quite uncomfortable. Jack. 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, how Missy have the protests been so far 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: today compared to previous years, because, like you say, it 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: sort of feels like it gets more contentious every year. 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: It does get more contentious. I'd say that we've almost 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: become a little numb to the rallies. To be perfectly 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: blunt about it. Of course it'll make good pitches on 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: the television news tonight, but look at message is trying 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: to come across about unifying the country and we've been 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: through a pretty bruisy patch in these last couple of 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: months if you think back to what happened in Bondi. 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Just before Christmas. 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: So that's the message from the Prime Minister about healing, 23 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: but you can't really create that on Australia Day anymore. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: There hasn't been, to. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Be perfectly honest with you, too many issues apart from 26 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: the obvious, and again, as I say, the pitches you'll 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: see on the television news tonight might paint a bit 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: of a different story. But you've got the political opportunists 29 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: out today like Pauline Hansen with the pro Australia Day 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: rallies and trying to say she's all about Australian values 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: and the fact that she's surging in the polls obviously 32 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: she's not going to miss out on this opportunity and 33 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: she was given a rock Stars reception where she appeared 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: earlier today. Then as you played that clip in the 35 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: world wise, there is certainly no reason to celebrate, particularly 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: for the Indigenous Australians. So I don't think it has 37 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: quite had the same level of inflammatory, protesting language and 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: events today as we've seen in previous years. We're just 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: trying to ignore the day and get to tomorrow and 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: carry on, which is really ultimately what we don't want 41 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: this day to be about. We want it to be 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: what it was, you know, the barbecues, the celebrations, the 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 2: fact we live in a great place. 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the thing is that, like history 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: contains multitude day and you sort of hope that that, 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, maybe people are in a position where they 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: can acknowledge the terrible grievances of the past and also 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: acknowledge the things that do make Australia great. I mean, 49 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: the thing we did in New Zealand, not to want 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: to lecture you about it, is we've now gone to 51 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: just having two days. So we have White Tongue Day, 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: which is a day of protest for some people and 53 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,279 Speaker 1: a day you know, of reflection. But we also have Matabiki, 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: which is a kind of a more of a celebratory, 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: kind of unifying day for people, which also has really 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: significant indigenous meaning in New Zealand. So I don't know, 57 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: maybe not not to throw you too many suggestions only, 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: but next time you've got someone's ere, maybe you could 59 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: suggest a couple of days an extra holiday. No one's 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: going to argue about that. Now the hunt continues, and 61 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: it's been going for some time now for an alleged 62 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: triple murderer. 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and this is, you know, really horrible. We're 64 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: talking about Mount Hope, which many people have probably never 65 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: heard of before, but is in the outback of New 66 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: South Wales. It's only got a population of sixteen. And 67 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: this search continues property to property at the moment where 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: there are lots of sheds. That's what's complicated. And we're 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: bringing in the bomb squad. We're bringing in very tactical 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: police officers to be searching for Julian Ingram. Now he 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: is of course accused of shooting dead he's heavily pregnant 72 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: former partner Sophie Quinn, her friend John Harris, and then 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: killing Sophie's aunt, Narrator Quinn. Now they are yet to 74 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: find the whereabouts here of Julian Ingram, but that police 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: operation continues, and as you say, it has been going 76 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: on for some time, and it is a delicate police 77 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: operation at the moment, but they do continue that search 78 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: and no doubt family members of the queens that are 79 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: looking for some answers here and some sort of justification 80 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: about what exactly went down. 81 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a hideous story. Isn't it. Hey, I'll tell 82 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: you what. I have been loving the Australian Open, as 83 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: I do every year. Honestly, it might be my favorite 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: of the majors. What I haven't been loving is the 85 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: number of people hosting these kind of little smeary photos 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: from the upper reaches of the Australian Open stands, trying 87 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: to imply that they're really you know, socially significant, or 88 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: they're in it he or she of the moment. Are 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: there too many influencers that the Australian Open, Well, this 90 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: is what's frustrating fans. 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: I haven't seen so much interest in the cues at 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: the Australian Open this year. Some people claiming that to 93 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: wait for about five hours to get into the main 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: arena to actually be able to watch a little bit 95 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: of tennis. So they're taking it out on the fact 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: that the Australian Open organizers have decided to deploy. 97 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: As you said, there jack dozens and dozens. 98 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: Of influencers who are able to post a TikTok at 99 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Instagram and the like, the fact that they were there, 100 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: they were at center Court, and this is rubbing the 101 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: noses the wrong way of the thousands and thousands of 102 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: fans who not only are waiting in those cues but 103 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: have missed out on tickets. Isn't it just the way 104 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: of the world though? Now, I mean, if you're trying 105 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: to look at trying to appeal to a new audience 106 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 2: or the next generation, you've got to all these leaders 107 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: of social media. It's the necessary evil unfortunately, So I 108 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: don't know. I think, you know, hats off to probably 109 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: the Australian Open ultimately to try and get as much 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: coverage and as many people interested as possible and get 111 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: the Australian Open trending. That's probably their goal, the KPIs 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: and the communications director, and he or she's probably succeeding. 113 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the mere fact that they're popping up on 114 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: my feed would suggest that, Yeah, from a marketing perspective, 115 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: they're probably doing on run. I'm just not sure that 116 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: it's necessarily aspirational. So are they actually are they giving 117 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: these people free tickets? Is that it? Are they? Are 118 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: they paying the post? Yeah? Right? Okay, now, well. 119 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: There is some suggestion some may be paid for their posts, 120 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: and maybe Jack, this is just your way of trying 121 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: to get some free tickets in Australia. Over next year, 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: work on your social media. 123 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Raz Olie, you need a few more followers than I 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: can boast. I'm afraid, no, no, thank you very much, 125 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: but very much enjoying the competition to appreciate your time. 126 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: This afternoon Olie Peterson from ABC Perth for more from 127 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news talks. It'd 128 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays. Follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.