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Speaker 1: Barry, so senior political correspondents with us.

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Speaker 2: Allo Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Right, So Tamoth Pool's got to Tamoth Pool's got to

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Speaker 1: grill the police commissioner, which is kind of ironic because

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Speaker 1: she wants to defund the police.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, it struck me is yes, rather strange that

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Speaker 2: here she was sitting there. It is what do they

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Speaker 2: call it, the week at parliaments, basically putting all the

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Speaker 2: government departments up scrutiny. That's what I'm looking for, scrutiny week.

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Speaker 2: So for heads of government departments at times it must

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Speaker 2: be difficult. This for the Commissioner of Police, Richard Chambers,

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Speaker 2: must have been quite difficult tamotha Paul because from the Greens,

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Speaker 2: of course, she'll he'll be quite aware of her view

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Speaker 2: of the police and that their job could essentially be

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Speaker 2: done by Maori Warden's Council, Warden's community initiatives and other

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Speaker 2: management practices that I think she said that having more

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Speaker 2: police on the beat essentially makes people more afraid because

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Speaker 2: they see the cops about and I think there's trouble.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, that's the background to her today. She was

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Speaker 2: firing questions at Richard Chambers, but taking up the case

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Speaker 2: for Maldy, who she says are disproportionately being charged for

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Speaker 2: cannabis offenses.

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Speaker 3: Here she is Mary in the last year are now

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Speaker 3: more highly charged with possession of cannabis than Parker, despite

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Speaker 3: the fact that we are only fifteen percent of the

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Speaker 3: population and partire other majority. So how does that work out?

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Speaker 3: How is there such a massive difference in the discharging

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Speaker 3: of discretion, if not systemic races.

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Speaker 4: I would want to understand beyond just those high level statistics.

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Speaker 4: It's too simplistic to sort of say that, oh, that

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Speaker 4: must equate to meaning this, But it.

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Speaker 3: Does correlate with police being granted more discretion on cannabis

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Speaker 3: convictions and possession directly correlates with Malory being more highly

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Speaker 3: convicted despite the population differences.

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Speaker 4: But I think we'd need to have a closer look

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Speaker 4: at the circumstances. Frankly, I joined New Zealand place thirty

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Speaker 4: years ago to be the best policeman I can. That

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Speaker 4: hasn't changed. That means I can still get my hands day.

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Speaker 2: What he was saying is that about that particular comment

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Speaker 2: was that look, somebody put it pointed out to him

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Speaker 2: that at a couple of stages he stopped when he's

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Speaker 2: seeing the police frontline police having a few issues with people,

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Speaker 2: he stepped out and walked over to them and take

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Speaker 2: taking the people into custody himself, as the police commissed.

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Speaker 1: As the police commission where does he do this when

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Speaker 1: he's out on the town having a drug?

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Speaker 2: Who knows, But it was put to him that that's

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Speaker 2: what he does on the old occasion. I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people would say that's bloody good that a

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Speaker 2: police commissioner can come down to their level and assist

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Speaker 2: them when they're having problems with people on the street.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, maybe Tamitha Paul should consider more Mildy

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Speaker 2: have been caught for smoking dope rather than us, rather

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Speaker 2: than a racial issue being involved in this. It's easy

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Speaker 2: to apply the racist comment but and she did it

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Speaker 2: against the police today. It's easy to say. But honestly,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's I don't think there's racism in

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Speaker 2: the police at all.

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Speaker 1: Listen, have we got an update on Andy Coster that

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Speaker 1: suggests they've almost managed to sack him.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about sacking them.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Well, I would.

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Speaker 2: Imagine they are.

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Speaker 1: But he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Of course, at scrutiny week this week. His deputy had

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Speaker 2: to sit in for him, But David wrote, David Roach

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Speaker 2: Brian So, Brian Roach was on his way into the

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Speaker 2: committee today and he stopped to have a word to journalists.

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Speaker 2: If you listen to Roach, the inquiry is definitely in

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Speaker 2: his final stages.

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Speaker 5: I don't have an exact date, but I'm really confident

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Speaker 5: that we're going to get there and remove the uncertainty

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Speaker 5: that everyone has. I recognize this has got a high

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Speaker 5: level of public interest. We have had to do it

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Speaker 5: properly according to the law, and I'm confident that we've

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Speaker 5: done that. We'll get to the end. We get to

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Speaker 5: the end. I want it done as soon as I

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Speaker 5: possibly can.

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Speaker 2: So I think essentially what he's saying there is a

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Speaker 2: decision on Costa's futurism. In't it a.

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Speaker 1: Decision on Costa's future? Barry, they're sacking him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I'm just listening to what so Brian.

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Speaker 1: Roach's still decision. It's basically it's them trying to actually

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Speaker 1: get to the back of the end of it. And

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Speaker 1: he keeps on putting up a fight by the looks

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, now listen, No, I don't think Brian Roach is

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Speaker 2: putting up a fight.

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Speaker 1: I think, hey, what do you make of this business

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Speaker 1: of the EU funding Instagram posts attacking our government?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think what this young woman should have been

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Speaker 2: put before was a candidate school and all the parties

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Speaker 2: have them, and if she's been through that should know

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Speaker 2: that you don't appear on behalf of anybody else, certainly

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Speaker 2: an outside influence like the European Union. I think you

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Speaker 2: know she's made a major mistake here. But don't forget

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Speaker 2: Hither you You've had an interview in the past with

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Speaker 2: school strike for Climate New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Don't, Barry, don't are you mentioning? Are you going to

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Speaker 1: mention Izzy?

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Speaker 2: I was going to mention Izzy, Yeah, that's young, that's young.

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Speaker 1: I got the BSA told me often I have to

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Speaker 1: pretend it.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, I thought. I thought it was a good

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Speaker 2: interview and it was certainly warrant.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, some people did enjoy it at

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Speaker 1: the time and didn't leave it there. Thank you, Barry,

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Speaker 1: Barry sober jeez, honestly, senior political correspondent.

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