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Speaker 1: Right, Jammy McKay Hosts of the Countries with me now, hey,

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Speaker 1: Jomie evening. Ever, so it's becoming more and more apparent,

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Speaker 1: isn't it that the climate plan is just there are

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Speaker 1: holes all over this thing and it's not going to work,

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Speaker 1: is it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, this story I think I read it on

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Speaker 2: to be fair. I think it was on Farmers Weekly

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Speaker 2: this morning and it was news to me that a

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Speaker 2: critical part of the government's plan for cutting greenhouse gas

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Speaker 2: emissions over the next five years appears to have fallen

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Speaker 2: over because we are a chunk of the government's climate

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Speaker 2: success rested on a single project which the owner now

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Speaker 2: says probably won't happen because it doesn't stack up commercially

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Speaker 2: so full. You know, a third of the reductions they

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Speaker 2: needed between now and twenty thirty were supposed to come

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Speaker 2: from carbon dioxide being stashed permanently underground in Taranaki at

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Speaker 2: the Caperny gas field. Coperney's owner, Todd Energy, says the

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Speaker 2: project as future is uncertain unless it gets some kind

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Speaker 2: of extra incentive or subsidy from the government, something that's

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Speaker 2: not likely in this week's budget, I wouldn't think. And

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Speaker 2: apparently carb and capture and storage. I was unaware of this, heather.

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Speaker 2: You capture it in your store at underground and reservoirs

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Speaker 2: like empty gas fields, hopefully forever. The several multi billion

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Speaker 2: dollar projects underway overseas with mixed success, including one in

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Speaker 2: Australia that's looking a bit dodgy at the moment. So

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Speaker 2: there you go. Another one bites the dust.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you'll be aware that Simon Watts has apparently

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Speaker 1: been going around and assuring people who are concerned, and

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Speaker 1: I would suggest the people who are probably most concerned

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Speaker 1: about this climate plan will be farmers, assuring them that

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Speaker 1: actually this is just an ambition, right, We're not actually

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Speaker 1: going to meet these targets.

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Speaker 2: You know about that? A, yeah, absolutely, And so we've

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Speaker 2: got this ambition. We've got these targets. But it would

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Speaker 2: appear to me at this stage anyhow, if we don't

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Speaker 2: meet them, we get slapped over the risk with the

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Speaker 2: West Wet bus tickets, right, I have them in the

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Speaker 2: first place, They're not going to be held to account.

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Speaker 2: It seems rather bizarre, and which leads me on to

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Speaker 2: what's in the budget for the farmers Heather, and I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: hopefully nothing. We've moved on from the days of the

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Speaker 2: bear and backy budgets from Rob Muldoon. What farmers don't want,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you this right away is unrealistic emissions

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Speaker 2: reductions targets that will only serve to hamstring the primary

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Speaker 2: sector and of course the nation's economy and the other

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Speaker 2: interesting one Field Day's coming up next month. I'm expecting

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Speaker 2: Heather dairy conversions to be the topic da jour or

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Speaker 2: one of them at field Days.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Hey, Jamie, good to talk to you. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you so much. We'll bring Jamie mckaie,

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