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Speaker 1: Afternoon, the governments announced the biggest changes to driver licenses

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Speaker 1: since at least twenty eleven. The lunar period's going to

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Speaker 1: double to twelve months. For kids who are under the

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Speaker 1: age of twenty five, it's going to stay six months

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Speaker 1: for over twenty fives. Once you've got your restricted all

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Speaker 1: you need to do is wait another twelve months and

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Speaker 1: avoid any demerits, because the demerits will add time to

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Speaker 1: the period that you're on the restricted license, and then

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Speaker 1: you'll not have to sit a test to get a

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Speaker 1: full license, just walk in and ask for it once

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Speaker 1: the way it is up. Motorsport champ and road safety

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Speaker 1: advocate Greg Murphy is with us on this high Greg. Hi, Heather,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about this?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a bit mixed.

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Speaker 3: There's some reasonable additions and some obvious ones. The zero

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Speaker 3: alcohol situation is a pretty clear and obvious one, and

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Speaker 3: a good one. The demerit points on restricted and learners.

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Speaker 2: Is also.

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Speaker 3: I suppose somewhat of a deterrent to add time onto

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Speaker 3: their license. I don't think it's gone far enough in

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Speaker 3: respect of forcing people into getting proper training effectively. You

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Speaker 3: know you can go through two years, really do next

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Speaker 3: to nothing, not look to go and do a prescribed

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Speaker 3: training course of course that can get six months off

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Speaker 3: your learners basically not drive, and at the end of

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Speaker 3: those two years you can walk in and get a

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Speaker 3: full license. And to me, that's that's not going far

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Speaker 3: enough because it's not not actually meaning we're going to

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Speaker 3: have safer drivers on the road.

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Speaker 2: It just means it's going to cost you a little

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Speaker 2: bit less.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about, and this is the thing

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Speaker 1: that I think a lot of most people will be

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Speaker 1: interested in, how do you feel about the dropping of

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Speaker 1: the test for the full license.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was for it in the submission process only

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Speaker 3: if drivers were along the process of learners and restricted

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Speaker 3: forced to go and actually get some proper practical driver

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Speaker 3: training and not just going with a driving instructor. You know,

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Speaker 3: we need more controlled environment stuff around, you know, stopping distances,

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Speaker 3: emergency stopping, getting some cognitive awareness around you know, some

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Speaker 3: of these things that you need to be prepared for

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Speaker 3: that most people aren't prepared for when they happen.

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Speaker 2: Most of the crashes and incidents, injuries.

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Speaker 3: Deaths that are happening on our roads are by people

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Speaker 3: that don't know what to do in certain situations. Cannot

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Speaker 3: read the situations, cannot read the weather conditions, don't realize

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Speaker 3: they're going too fast, don't realize you know, the potentials

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Speaker 3: of the safety features of their cars, all this kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff. And unless you go and learn that, you're

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Speaker 3: not offered it as part of the process of getting

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Speaker 3: your learners getting your driver's license.

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Speaker 1: So can I just say that defensive driving course I

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Speaker 1: did one when I think I might have been on

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Speaker 1: my restricted that is one of the most helpful courses

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Speaker 1: you can put a cat.

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Speaker 2: On a well, it is if you are doing it

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Speaker 2: for the right reason.

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Speaker 3: So and the defensive driving courses now being is not

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Speaker 3: being used now as a carrotter to reduce the restricted

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Speaker 3: license time. I mean, the restrict license time is only

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Speaker 3: twelve months, which is not a long time anyway. The

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Speaker 3: defensive driving course has some great stuff in it, but

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Speaker 3: it's not been a pass or a fail.

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Speaker 2: It's basically been a.

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Speaker 3: Participation certificate to get six months off your license. So

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's actually been working as good as

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Speaker 3: it could have if it was compulsory and it was

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Speaker 3: a pass or a fail, because I think there is

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Speaker 3: some really good stuff in there, but also it's predominantly

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Speaker 3: very much a theory process. I'm still a big advocate

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Speaker 3: for practical, practical stuff in controlled environments to understand emergency breaking,

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Speaker 3: what it's like to put your foot on the break

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Speaker 3: and experience abs what you can do with that, and

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Speaker 3: it'll just understand better dynamics and physics of a motor

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Speaker 3: vehicle and why they can be so dangerous in lots

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Speaker 3: of situations.

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Speaker 2: So we haven't gone far enough in that respect to

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 3: You know there is going to be nt TA are

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Speaker 3: going to have the powers to look to prescribe more

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Speaker 3: training courses as part of that. Can be part of

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Speaker 3: that getting six months taken off your learn license.

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Speaker 2: So that is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: But you know, what I believe is important in those

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Speaker 3: courses is maybe not the same as what other people

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Speaker 3: think it should be done. So you know, it's it's

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Speaker 3: it's a big it's a shift, it's a change in

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Speaker 3: my mind.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to produce safer drivers on

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Speaker 2: our roads.

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Speaker 1: Greg, it's always good to talk to you. Thank you, mate.

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Speaker 1: This is Greg Murphy Key, we motorsport champion and our

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