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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, news togs,

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Speaker 1: Dead b.

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Speaker 2: Billy, You're welcome today, A couple of new visas to

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Speaker 2: get more labor into the country, offshore wind in a

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Speaker 2: multi billion dollar project, to tell you about a new

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Speaker 2: hot job farming applications of booming. The Prime Minister tells

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Speaker 2: us how cold it was in Queenstown? Are the lads

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Speaker 2: in the commentry box? Charles Feldman does the state? Steve

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Speaker 2: Price he pops up in Australia pasking.

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Speaker 3: Here we go for the.

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Speaker 2: New week, seven past six in the old hope for

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Speaker 2: one thing, expect another scenario that makes up so much

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Speaker 2: of Lafe. The warriors dish up what you kind of

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Speaker 2: knew was coming, didn't they?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 2: Is it over? I think pretty much? It is. I

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Speaker 2: reckon we will end up with thirty seven is ish points.

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Speaker 2: That accounts for one more loss and a few more wins.

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Speaker 2: Is it good enough for the four? You'd hope so,

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Speaker 2: but probably not. Is it good enough for the eight?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, most certainly. As we said last week, in other seasons,

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Speaker 2: at this time of year, we're debating the eight. Aren't

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Speaker 2: we are we in?

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Speaker 5: Are we not?

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Speaker 2: We used to get excited about all that we make

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Speaker 2: the eight and who knows what's possible? That was the chat.

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Speaker 2: But that's the trouble with this, and of course we've

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Speaker 2: been so much better than that. The eight is not

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Speaker 2: the story. The four was the story, and it may

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Speaker 2: may still be. But no matter what the end number is,

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Speaker 2: the simple truth, the inescapable reality is we can't beat

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Speaker 2: top sides. We haven't they beat us. We don't beat them.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, there was some more concussion and injury the

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Speaker 2: beleagued side added to the beleaguedness. Replacements had replacements. But

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Speaker 2: it is what it is. I mean, I don't follow

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Speaker 2: the wider competition closely enough to know whether everyone carries

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Speaker 2: our level of injuries or for some reason we are

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Speaker 2: batted in a way no one can comprehend. But there

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Speaker 2: is no miracle cure. Depth only takes you so far

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Speaker 2: when you're dropping like flies. Now I could trouble you

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Speaker 2: with some fanciful nonsense about hope and maybe's and miracles.

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Speaker 2: I could say, hey, look at Penrith. They were bottom

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Speaker 2: of the table, they were useless. We beat them if

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Speaker 2: they can do it, so can we nine in a row.

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Speaker 2: But that's wasting everyone's time, isn't it. We have never

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Speaker 2: ever one nine in a row. My prediction for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the season, as you just heard, doesn't actually

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Speaker 2: have us winning four in a row. We're not, Sadly,

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Speaker 2: aside to defy history, we no teams don't win from

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Speaker 2: outside the four. We aren't in a position to rewrite

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Speaker 2: that stack. So was it the injuries that did us

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Speaker 2: in or do we need to take basically another complete

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Speaker 2: step up? In other words, yes, we are good, Yes

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Speaker 2: we improved. Yes this has been a great year, but

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Speaker 2: we are still always were just short of greatness. And

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Speaker 2: if that's the case, what's the answer. Well, this, sadly,

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Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you after thirty one goes is

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Speaker 2: not our you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, news of the world in ninety second.

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Speaker 2: Imagine moving on two walls when Alaska at the end

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Speaker 2: of the week. Of course, maybe Zelenski's involved, maybe he isn't.

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Speaker 2: Two Gaza and Yaho says he's all in.

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Speaker 6: Our goal is not to occupy Gaza. Our goal is

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Speaker 6: to free Gaza creed from kramas Terrace. The warking end tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: If Gaza, or rather if Kramas lays down its arms

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Speaker 6: and releases all the remaining hostages.

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Speaker 2: You can imagine what they're saying at the UN.

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Speaker 7: Decision by the Israeli government will do nothing to secure

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Speaker 7: the return of the hostages and the risk further endangering

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Speaker 7: their lives. It will also worsen the already catastrophic humanitarian

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Speaker 7: situation in Gaza and those a bit of this as well.

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Speaker 8: How on earth is Israel is still allowed to sit

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Speaker 8: around this table and in these United Nations. If it

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Speaker 8: was another country, you would have been imposing sanctions a

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Speaker 8: long time ago.

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Speaker 2: But also a bit of this.

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Speaker 9: Remarkably, instead of pressuring Hamas, members of this body have

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Speaker 9: encouraged and rewarded its intransigence, actively prolonging the war by

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Speaker 9: spreading lies about Israel, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and the

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Speaker 9: United States.

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Speaker 2: While at job by the White who exhausted there are

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Speaker 2: the ideas she remains unchanged.

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Speaker 10: We have a clear message for Israel. Urgently and permanently

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Speaker 10: lift all restrictions on a delivery is vital that the

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Speaker 10: UN and established humanitarian partners can operate safely and at scale.

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Speaker 2: But back to the other war, JD's been in Britain

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Speaker 2: over the weekend on holiday, but he did have time

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Speaker 2: to go fishing and catch up with his old mate

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Speaker 2: Lammy and reassure us all that's all under control.

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Speaker 5: The only way to make pieces to sit down and talk.

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Speaker 5: You can't finger point, you can't, you know why your

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Speaker 5: finger at somebody and say you're wrong, We're right. The

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Speaker 5: way to peace is to have a decisive leader, sit

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Speaker 5: down and force people to come together.

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Speaker 2: Finally, and the UK driver instructors have been given an

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Speaker 2: upper cut, so the Driver's Vehicle Standards Agency a little

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Speaker 2: bit worried about the marty. The grumpy instructors leading to

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Speaker 2: anxious tests cities, especially women. People generally are intimidated when

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Speaker 2: their examiner doesn't make any pleasantry. So the report says

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Speaker 2: men are likely to pass at the rate of forty

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Speaker 2: seven to fifty five percent, while women pass at the

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Speaker 2: rate of forty one to forty eight percent. The DBSA

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Speaker 2: wants all candidates to receive the highest level of customer experience.

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Speaker 2: Let us news the world and night if you missed it.

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Speaker 2: Over the weekend, a guy called Stephen Mirn. His name

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Speaker 2: is not nobly important in his job, as he's been

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Speaker 2: appointed to the FED. That woman Adriana Kogler who quit

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Speaker 2: the other day needs replacing. And you will be not

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Speaker 2: surprised to learn that mister Mirron is a close personal

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Speaker 2: friend of mister Trump, and we'll probably do what mister

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Speaker 2: Trump wants on the FED. His job lasts until January

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Speaker 2: of next year. It is twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Rest of the week is going to be made up

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Speaker 2: of a couple of things around the wall. Where are

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Speaker 2: the talks? I mean Alaska. I'm assuming it's a military base.

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Speaker 2: They haven't told us anything about it. But more importantly,

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Speaker 2: the Europeans working desperately hard to get Zelensky involved, So

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Speaker 2: fifteen Plass six Funds Management. Greg Smith, Morning to you, Moynes,

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Speaker 2: you Mike. How's the old results season going? Well, we've

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Speaker 2: gone mixed bag Gay.

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Speaker 11: Even of a mixed bag took you on the consumer front,

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Speaker 11: So let's look at Expedio. Americans still seem to be

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Speaker 11: splurging on travel, but sort of the cautious manner so

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Speaker 11: those years they jump four percent, they recommit any revenue

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Speaker 11: is going to increase three to five percent. It was

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Speaker 11: from a previous guard of two to four but a

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Speaker 11: bit of a split between the US international though, So

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Speaker 11: domestic sales are sixty percent of tatal revenue. They rose

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Speaker 11: three percent, where is international jump thirteen percent, So your

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Speaker 11: budget travelers are just sort of being a little bit

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Speaker 11: more cautious. It comes the enterprise business that did well.

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Speaker 11: They helped soilitate travel for credit card companies they saw

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Speaker 11: seeing quarter bookings grow seventeen percent. But yeah, US consumers,

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Speaker 11: consumers are just you take a little bit of a

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Speaker 11: look at things before they spurge too much on travel.

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Speaker 11: It's also consistent with what booking dot Com said as well.

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Speaker 11: They said consumers are taking shorter trips at lower rates,

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Speaker 11: but they're still spending on travel. But some areas of

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Speaker 11: discretion in retail are under a lot of precious so

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Speaker 11: she is an under armor. They were hammered by eighteen

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Speaker 11: decline six to seven percent in the current quarter, and

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Speaker 11: earnings of Judah have no surprises what due to tariffs

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Speaker 11: they get thirty percent of the mentionandise from Vietnam and

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Speaker 11: fifteen percent from Indonesia. But then on the positive front,

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Speaker 11: Americans still to be ordering in so delivery firm Instacart.

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Speaker 11: They had their strongest order growth since twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 11: and they also beat estimates, so they saw orders grow

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Speaker 11: seventeen eighty two point seven million, and then a line

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Speaker 11: so those years up four percent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then the gold where are we? I got

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Speaker 2: whiplash on the gold? What's happening?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, a lot going on the gold market, so just

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Speaker 11: all around tariffs of course, and a lot of confusion

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Speaker 3: And on the sedestion that.

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Speaker 11: They are, saw gold prices record highs almost three and

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Speaker 11: a half thousand an ounce. Then the White House came

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Speaker 11: Switzerland had temporary halted their shipments to the US, but

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Speaker 11: they said there's going to be an executive order to

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Speaker 11: the White House soon that would confirm they won't be

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Speaker 11: subject to tariff's. But yes, certainly a big deal for

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Speaker 11: Switzerland and it had been seduced to tariffs on gold

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Speaker 11: bars would be like them thirty nine percent Switzland. That's

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Speaker 11: obviously very relevant to them. The US Council around about

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Speaker 11: six of their total exports. They're being penalized for running

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Speaker 11: a thirty eight billion dollar bio actual trade surplus with

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Speaker 11: course the name for a lot of things, but it's

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Speaker 3: And so the exports to the US.

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Speaker 2: So they've called for it to be ignored.

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Speaker 11: From the trade surplus calculations. Also, there is a small

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Speaker 11: matter of pharmaceuticals. The expert ran about ten billion of

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Speaker 11: But yeah, what could Switzerland do to try and get

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Speaker 11: trying to get their tariffroats. They're not about to go

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Speaker 11: unnutral and be a military ally. There's been suggestions they

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Speaker 11: a couple thousand people.

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Speaker 2: So stay tuned, Okay, give us a word on China.

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Speaker 11: China, so I've said there's been concerns around deflation and

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Speaker 11: price competition and the like, so there's some hopeful signs here.

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Speaker 11: So the CPI in July was unchanged from a year earlier,

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Speaker 11: so there have been expectations for a point one percent

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Speaker 11: decline in June that had broke a four month fallen streak.

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Speaker 11: Still a lot of factory deflation in there, mic of course,

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Speaker 11: cutthroat competition, so perhaps a little bit too early to

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Speaker 11: say whether this is working. And also noted that people's

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Speaker 11: perceptions of prices are still they're going to be in decline,

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Speaker 11: and that's been a case for a year or so now.

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Speaker 11: So I suppose the good news for China is that

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Speaker 11: used tariffs. But they really need to address this involution

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Speaker 11: Little way to go yet before that's address. But some

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Speaker 2: we rolled it off through the screaming. Now, big ideas

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Speaker 1: Setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The Mike

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Speaker 2: Peter Spencer is the country manager of park when New

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Speaker 14: It's real.

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Speaker 15: It's being built good time all around the world, including

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Speaker 2: To prove it do we have the regulatory framework set to.

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Speaker 2: How do you fit in to solar, onshore wind, geothermal, rain,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you went go tomorrow, how long would it

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Speaker 15: So we would be looking at about seven years of feasibility,

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Speaker 2: Okay, who's done it?

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Speaker 2: Good stuff will go well. Nice to talk to you,

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Speaker 16: for US.

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Speaker 2: John Hilman, This morning, Child's morning to you.

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Speaker 17: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm discipal. When are they going to tell us

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Speaker 2: where this meeting is? I mean, yes, it's Alaska, but

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Speaker 2: where I'm assuming it's a military basele somewhere.

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Speaker 17: I would presume so. And as for when I'm guessing

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Speaker 17: in the next couple of days, we'll learn. It's hard

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Speaker 17: to keep that kind of thing, you know, a secret.

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Speaker 17: But it is an interesting location because I kind of

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Speaker 17: wonder whether or not mister Trump intends to sell Alaska

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Speaker 17: back to the Russians, because of course the US bought

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Speaker 17: it from Russia back in the eighteen hundreds. But it

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Speaker 17: should be an interesting meeting. But it's controversial, as you know,

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Speaker 17: it's because so far it doesn't appear as if Ukraine

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Speaker 17: is going to be part of that, although that apparently

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Speaker 17: is still up in the air to some degree. But

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Speaker 17: you know, Trump and the White House have signaled a

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Speaker 17: willingness to make concessions to the Vladimir Prutin that I'm

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Speaker 17: that's so shor Zelensky Ukraine is willing to go along.

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Speaker 2: With exactly, And of course he'll be under Trump will

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Speaker 2: be onder tremendous pressure this week if he isn't already

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Speaker 2: with JD in Europe and the Europeans trying to get

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Speaker 2: Zelensky involved in all of this. I don't know where

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Speaker 2: this guy's meantime in Gaza. So the announcements been made,

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Speaker 2: vir role in the US is signing at the UN.

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Speaker 2: So does anything change here either? Childs For goodness, Psycho,

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Speaker 2: haven't we seen the story before?

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Speaker 17: We sort of have seen this story before. And of

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Speaker 17: course you're referring to the fact that Netnyahu has indicated

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Speaker 17: that they're going to go ahead with their plan to

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Speaker 17: occupy all of Gaza's city, but they already occupy most

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Speaker 17: of Gazas so that would kind of make it as

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Speaker 17: a facto occupation of that entire territory. But you're right,

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Speaker 17: I mean, the United States is not going along with

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Speaker 17: what seems to be pretty much an international condemnation of

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Speaker 17: Israel for doing this. And since the US has veto

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Speaker 17: power at the United Nations in the security count so

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Speaker 17: than any motions to condemn Israel at that level is

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Speaker 17: going to go nowhere. And in terms of Hamas, there's

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Speaker 17: no indication that Amas is backing down. So it looks

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Speaker 17: like this the fight is going to go on for

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Speaker 17: quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Right, And then we get to Higgs that I alluded

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Speaker 2: to this earlader on the program, Higgs saith in his video,

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Speaker 2: how weird is this?

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Speaker 14: Well, it's very weird.

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Speaker 17: I mean what we're talking about, of course, is that

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Speaker 17: he reposted a video from a pastor and a church

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Speaker 17: that he has an affinity for. He's a member of

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Speaker 17: one of the congregations, and in this video, you know,

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Speaker 17: they talk about, for one thing, women not having shouldn't

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Speaker 17: have the right to vote. So by reposting it, it

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Speaker 17: would suggest that the Defense Secretary is going along with that.

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Speaker 17: That's a very unusual thing for any US official, let

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Speaker 17: alone somebody at his level to post on social media.

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Speaker 17: So you know, he's getting criticism, but he's also getting

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Speaker 17: I should point out on Twitter X he's actually getting

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Speaker 17: a lot of people who are supportive of what he's done,

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Speaker 17: which is also surprising.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Charles catch up Wednesday. Appreciated very much, Charles Pelman,

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Speaker 2: and for Richard Arnold for this coming week.

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Speaker 12: Let me just give you this.

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Speaker 2: This was interesting that we've got numbers behind the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: I note that mclay's up there, having told us last week.

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Speaker 2: This is the Prime Minister having told us last week

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Speaker 2: we don't stand a hope in hell of reducing it

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Speaker 2: from fifteen to ten. And maclay also being on the

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Speaker 2: program saying that he was told by gris and not

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Speaker 2: to come up until later on the year. He's up

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Speaker 2: there now trying to twist their arms. So we'll get

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Speaker 2: the update on that shortly. But anyway, the Budget Lab

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Speaker 2: at Yale University has come up with some numbers. So

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Speaker 2: the average effect of tariff imposed by the US on

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Speaker 2: various countries around the world now is eighteen point six percent.

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Speaker 2: That's average, which is up from two point four so

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Speaker 2: there's been a material change. Tariff revenues twenty eight billion,

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Speaker 2: triple the monthly revenue scene in twenty twenty four, so

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Speaker 2: they're bringing the money in, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: But the Congressional Budget Office say it would reduce cumulative

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Speaker 2: government borrowing in ten years to twenty thirty five or

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Speaker 2: two and a half trillion. So far, so good, right. However,

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Speaker 2: they also judge that the tariffs would shrink the size

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Speaker 2: of the US economy relative to how it would perform

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Speaker 2: without tariffs, and that is the value of free trade,

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Speaker 2: of course, that we understand in this part of the world.

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Speaker 2: They also project that the additional revenues generated from the

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Speaker 2: tariff will be more than offset by the revenue lost

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Speaker 2: due to the Trump administration's tax cuts over the next decade.

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Speaker 2: So one of the impacts of Trump's trade war so

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Speaker 2: far has been to increase the number of imports into

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Speaker 2: the country. Because everyone panicked, of course, and stockpiled, US

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Speaker 2: exports have only increased modestly. The net result is that

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Speaker 2: the US goods trade deficit has not fallen. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it has blown out. It has reached a level of

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two billion dollars in March alone,

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Speaker 2: falling back to eighty six billion in June. So, in

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Speaker 2: other words, for all the noise about the money coming in,

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Speaker 2: it is true, but the full picture is only partially true,

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Speaker 2: and it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that

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Speaker 2: tariffs overall don't work.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven the Mike casting Breakfast with Rainthrow bun

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Speaker 1: use togged head Ben.

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Speaker 2: I am reading over the weekend that loud luxury is back.

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Speaker 2: Loud luxury will replace quiet luxury. And the only reason

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Speaker 2: we're replacing quiet luxury is because the world is facing

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Speaker 2: headwinds at the moment. People aren't spending as much on

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Speaker 2: quiet luxury. The thinking being that when you buy quiet luxury,

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Speaker 2: you can't be seen. You don't know what it is,

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Speaker 2: you don't know that it's luxury. Whereas if you slap

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Speaker 2: a great, big label and put it, make it yellow,

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Speaker 2: make it loud luxury, people will go, oh, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: He's obviously spend some money on his clothing. More importantly

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Speaker 2: than that is the share price of Crocs has tanked.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe this. They claim that North American consumers

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Speaker 2: are buying into a quote unquote clear athletic trend ahead

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Speaker 2: of next year's Football World Cup. Do you honestly believe

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Speaker 2: that fat Americans are going well? Next year we're going

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Speaker 2: to have the Football World Cup. I'm not gonna wear

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Speaker 2: any Crocs. I'm gonna go out and buy myself some poovers.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so anyway, Kroc sales around six and

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Speaker 2: a half percent quote unquote from them Crocs. There's a

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Speaker 2: concerning second half of the year China. They're still doing

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Speaker 2: all right because of the influences very big on the

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Speaker 2: old TikTok the Crocs. But I only started wearing Crocs

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Speaker 2: about three or four months ago, and I certainly don't

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Speaker 2: want to be caught out.

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Speaker 12: Well, but that's the problem. I mean, you've you've been

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Speaker 12: wearing them for that long.

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Speaker 5: Any signs of wear and tear on them add.

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Speaker 2: No sign of willness here. They are a quality vehicle.

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Speaker 12: So maybe they've made a ride for their own back there.

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Speaker 5: Nobody's buying new Crocs because the old crucks are still going.

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Speaker 2: Katie said, it's the ripoffs because you can buy Crocs

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Speaker 2: and aren't Crocs and they're a lot cheap. And she

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Speaker 2: I think she's probably right, She's all right.

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Speaker 12: Not crocks.

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Speaker 2: YEA, let's be honest, She's always right. Five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the inns are the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of food trouble supply costs. This is the

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Speaker 2: older in metrics grossery supply cost index this morning, and

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Speaker 2: average increase of two point two percent. It's not bad

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Speaker 2: two point two percent. The good news is increases aren't

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Speaker 2: spreading to as many items. We got about three thousand

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Speaker 2: items seeing an increase, which is down considerably on where

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Speaker 2: it once was. Butchery now, butchery costs are up. So

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Speaker 2: meats increased two point one percent. Beef and lamb prices

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Speaker 2: up across the board, particularly statements and roasts. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: that's international prices because we're selling like we never had.

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Speaker 2: But also livestock prices are up twenty percent year on year,

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Speaker 2: so the farmer is doing well. Fish pillating costs so

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Speaker 2: whoever's filleting fish is charging more.

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Speaker 5: Is this all knife related?

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Speaker 2: It looks like knife related, doesn't it. And probably if

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Speaker 2: you looked into knives, knives are probably more expensive as well.

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Speaker 2: Blade costs. Oh my god. Other notable increases continue in chocolate.

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Speaker 2: We've heard that story before. Toilet paper and paper towels.

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Speaker 2: You really need a paper towel, I mean, honestly, you

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Speaker 2: really need a payper twel.

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Speaker 5: Well, what do you put over your plate in the

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Speaker 5: microwave to stop it from scattering?

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Speaker 2: The fear coup I was going to say, toilet paper.

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Speaker 2: But that's just stupid, isn't it? If you avoid the chocolate,

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Speaker 2: what have we got? What's cheaper? Broccoli yum yum, Cauliflower

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Speaker 2: not so young, capsicum, oh super young. They're all down.

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Speaker 2: They're all cheaper. So don't freak out because constant creases

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Speaker 2: chilled food, so buy fresh. You see you chilled thing,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it. Child is up three point six percent.

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Speaker 2: What's that about? Bad news for oils, your veggie oils,

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Speaker 2: your palm. You shouldn't use palm, peanut you shouldn't use

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Speaker 2: peanut either. Olive oil and we all know about that.

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Speaker 2: That's up twenty four percent globally. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: you can do about that. You do need paper towels,

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Speaker 2: don't you. I just I was thinking about soup yets.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do we still use sub We like a

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Speaker 2: good suit, we speak. You're using a lot of oil.

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Speaker 2: You we need your towel, and you're dribbling visas. We've

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Speaker 2: got some more visas coming your way to them. We'll

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Speaker 2: give you the details and just a couple of mosie.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the know,

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Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfast with a Vita, retirement, Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News, tog's head be.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven more movement over the weekend in attracting

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Speaker 2: the right people into the country to fill labor gaps.

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Speaker 2: This is the Global Workforce VISA will target specialized workers

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Speaker 2: over a three year period, allowing them to basically come

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Speaker 2: and go. Pig Seasonal VISA will focus on short term

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Speaker 2: agri and agriculture things like that for up to seven months.

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Speaker 2: David Cooper as the CEO director at to Malcolm Pacific

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Speaker 2: Immigration and is with it's David, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning mate, makes sense and fill the gaps absolutely.

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Speaker 18: Look the Minister of Immigration Ericus Stanford, she's listened to

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Speaker 18: industry and she's mailed it. She solved a big problem.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't we solve a big problem before? Because what

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Speaker 2: she's done, although sensible, doesn't strike me as particularly complex

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Speaker 2: or is it.

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Speaker 18: Well, it's not complex if you're listening. But if you're

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Speaker 18: not listening and you're doing what you think is right

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Speaker 18: and you're not listening to industry, then things don't get fixed.

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Speaker 18: And for the last eighteen months in the immigration space,

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Speaker 18: the Minister's been fixing all the problems.

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Speaker 2: The come and go. Aspect of it was that a

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Speaker 2: key is he to move?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, look these particularly if you look at something

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Speaker 18: like the snow industry, for example, these are young people.

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Speaker 18: They come in, they do a season, and then they

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Speaker 18: head away. And that's no different to what kiwis.

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Speaker 17: Do.

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Speaker 18: You go to Aspen, you go to Hofgarten, you'll hear

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Speaker 18: Kiwi's working on the ski slopes, right, Just what happens

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Speaker 18: in that particular industry.

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Speaker 2: The agri stuff is, have we given up on the

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Speaker 2: unemployed in this country? We have more of than five

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Speaker 2: point two percent as of last week. Have we given

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Speaker 2: up on getting locals to do it? It's just too hard?

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Speaker 18: Well, I don't think it's that, Mike. I think it's

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Speaker 18: the seasonal nature of the job. They're in places where

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Speaker 18: not a lot of keywis particularly want to be. It's

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Speaker 18: messy work, it's not particularly pleasant and it's hard to

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Speaker 18: attract people. So that's why these employers are having to

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Speaker 18: bring people in from offshore.

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Speaker 2: What's your sense of demand? Are we still attractive?

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Speaker 18: Take a look at our Golden visa. We're up to

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Speaker 18: the only two hundred and seventy applications and four months

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Speaker 18: were at over one point six billion dollars and four months.

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Speaker 18: The best this visa ever did in the past was

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Speaker 18: a billion dollars a year. We are attractive, people want

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Speaker 18: to come here.

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Speaker 2: Good. Would it help if they could buy a house?

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Speaker 4: You bet?

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Speaker 18: It would supercharge the interest in this visa. And it

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Speaker 18: wouldn't help just the interest, Mike. It would get people

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Speaker 18: committed because they'd spend time in our communities and they'd

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Speaker 18: do more for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: More common sense, David, always enjoy your company, David Couber,

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Speaker 2: the CEO director of Malcolm Pacific Immigration. If we can

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Speaker 2: get this sorted out the way he claims we have

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Speaker 2: once again, you know Erica Stanford strikes. I mean, how

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Speaker 2: many good op eds did she get herself last week

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Speaker 2: with the NCAA stuff. So she seems to have solved immigration.

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Speaker 2: If it's that easy and we have now done the

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Speaker 2: right thing, why is it taking us till twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: ten minutes past seven tasking Now I got some travel

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Speaker 2: at north Police putting more resource into Northland, had a

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Speaker 2: burst of violent crime officers currently being sent on five

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Speaker 2: week rotation. Superintendent to Matt Sir Huey is the Northland

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Speaker 2: District commander and as well as Matt. Very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, morning mate. Is that the four homicides that's

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Speaker 2: tipped you over resource wise?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 14: I suppose it was the tipping point for us. Might

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Speaker 14: we had four on quite quick succession. They take up

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Speaker 14: a huge amount of investigative resource.

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Speaker 2: So that's the aftermath of the event and working through

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Speaker 2: the investigation, the paperwork, tidying it up, that's what would

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Speaker 2: suck you drive you didn't have the extra people coming

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Speaker 2: into the region.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right, and we have to draw obviously our

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Speaker 14: investigative polls from other inquiries that they're working on to

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Speaker 14: complete that. So you know, it's quite unusual to have

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Speaker 14: that many in such a short space of time. So

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Speaker 14: when we put the call out, I think it's the

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Speaker 14: real blessing and advantage I think of having a a

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Speaker 14: national police force.

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Speaker 2: Given that it is unusual. Does that mean this is

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Speaker 2: kind of a one off and you wouldn't expect it

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Speaker 2: to become a thing?

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Speaker 14: I certainly hope. So, Mike, you know, there's obviously, you know,

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Speaker 14: no guarantees about some of these things. Some of these

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Speaker 14: things can be a bit random. But yeah, definitely, it

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Speaker 14: was definitely unusual.

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Speaker 2: Have you got a time frame when things can go

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Speaker 2: back to normal so to speak.

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Speaker 14: It's, you know, we're in a much better space at

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Speaker 14: the moment over the last three months, with the support

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Speaker 14: we've had from around the country. It's, you know, given

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Speaker 14: us a chance to sort of, I suppose, get back

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Speaker 14: on top of things, a little bit of it to

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Speaker 14: continue as long as it can. But you know, obviously

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Speaker 14: these are busy people that are giving up their time

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Speaker 14: and their districts are giving up their people to come

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Speaker 14: and support us. So at some point they've got to

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Speaker 14: get back to their place.

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Speaker 2: Well, good luck with it. Appreciate it very much. Mats

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Speaker 2: So has the Northern District commander twelve and it's past seven,

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Speaker 2: for instance, said when you show twenty one to five,

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Speaker 2: as in May foreign buyers announcement will not be in

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Speaker 2: the budget but will be announced soon. Luckson said, on

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Speaker 2: your show twenty eight to seven, announcement will be with

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Speaker 2: than a week or two. How hard can this be?

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Speaker 2: Harder than you think? Clearly, I pepper Luxon every time

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Speaker 2: he walks into the studio off here. I pepper him

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Speaker 2: every single week and go, where the hell are you

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Speaker 2: with this? They're negotiating around the numbers. It is, They're

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Speaker 2: all across the line. It's just a time frame thing.

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Speaker 2: But it's a classic example of why things don't have

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Speaker 2: to be as hard as they sometimes appear to be.

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Speaker 2: Willo jen Prime what a rock star. So, having been

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Speaker 2: exposed so shockingly on Friday to be a combination of

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Speaker 2: incompetent and lazy, she then goes and doubles down. So

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Speaker 2: unfortunately for criss Hipkins, they have a meeting over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party get together. So the only question anyone

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Speaker 2: asks him about that is how useless as Willow gene Prime,

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Speaker 2: or words to that effect. So her defense appears to

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Speaker 2: be that she was busy, far too busy, engaging with

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Speaker 2: the sector to reply to an email from Erica Stanford.

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Speaker 2: She was engaging with the sector. She came away with

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Speaker 2: the impression, and this is how to be blunt, this

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Speaker 2: is how thick she is. She came away with the

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Speaker 2: impression that they the sector did not know what the

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Speaker 2: government was doing. Quote it was very secretive. Quote nobody

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Speaker 2: knew anything or could not speak to anything. So my

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Speaker 2: and of course no one at this point asked her this.

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Speaker 2: My question would have been given you came away Willow

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Speaker 2: Jean from the sector with the impression that everything was secretive.

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Speaker 2: Would it not behoove you to engage with Minister Stanford?

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Speaker 2: Who oh, hang on has invited you to engage, so

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Speaker 2: you don't have to be in the dark anymore. Oh look,

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Speaker 2: I probably could have said, this is why I need

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Speaker 2: to take my time, and please assure me or assure

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Speaker 2: me that I can have the time that I need

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Speaker 2: to do this. Does any of that make any sense? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: The upshot of it all was by the time Hipkins

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Speaker 2: turned up on the station yesterday, she apparently had learnt

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Speaker 2: a lot. I don't believe a word of that. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: past seven.

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Speaker 2: Chris Lackson after do we really want to ask about

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Speaker 2: Albanezi over the weekend? Literally? Did anything happen there? I

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Speaker 2: mean apart from the two of them got together in

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Speaker 2: a room. Good on them, I mean, there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with catching up. But yet again we asked for a

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Speaker 2: ceasefire on Gaza. Yet again we say how cold it is,

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Speaker 2: We lay a wreath, we say we're good friends, then

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Speaker 2: we go home. That was about It wasn't it? Was

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Speaker 2: there something more that I missed? I got more good

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Speaker 2: news on farming. Not surprisingly, we're seeing a search and

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Speaker 2: young people wanting to be farmers. Should I ask him

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Speaker 2: about whether Chloe Swarbrick should become the finance minister Growing

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Speaker 2: Future Farmers. He can say anything and get on the

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Speaker 2: news these days. I'd like to be a finance minister.

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Speaker 2: Chloe's Warbrick announcers, she'd like to be a finance min is.

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Speaker 2: Growing Future Farmers has received a record one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty student applications for its intake next year that exceeds

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Speaker 2: demand by the way, by nearly ninety percent. Wendy Paul

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Speaker 2: is the CEO of Growing Future Farmers. Wendy morning, than

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Speaker 2: good morning, mikeel you. I'm very well indeed, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Is this just an on flow of everyone looking at

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Speaker 2: a farm and going to tell you what life looks

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Speaker 2: good on the farm. I'll be a farmer. Is that

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Speaker 2: what's happening?

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Speaker 4: I think there's a bit more to it than that, Mic,

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Speaker 4: but it's a good, good news story for agriculture.

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Speaker 2: It's good. Do you have the people to train them?

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Speaker 2: At a ninety percent increase.

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Speaker 4: No, Unfortunately, that's our constraint at the moment. We've got

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Speaker 4: some amazing farmers all around the country who do this

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Speaker 4: out of the goodness of their heart to make sure

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Speaker 4: we've got a future for the industry. But at the moment, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we've got a constraint. We've only got eighty placement and

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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty young people wanting to get out

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Speaker 4: there in farming. So yeah, be call out to say

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Speaker 4: if you are interested to please just get hold of us,

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Speaker 4: because yeah, we don't want to turn so many young

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Speaker 4: people away.

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Speaker 2: No, you do not how much of what you do

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Speaker 2: as opposed to what's done on a farm, Like I

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Speaker 2: mean the sun comes to dad and goes dad, I

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Speaker 2: want to carry on and they just train them there

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Speaker 2: and you'd never interface with them. How much what you

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Speaker 2: do is actual putting people into farms.

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Speaker 4: Well, all of our students are on real working farms

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Speaker 4: all around the country and they spend two years on

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Speaker 4: the farm, forty four weeks a year. They on the farm,

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Speaker 4: they do some practical skills that are linked to their

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Speaker 4: academic studies, and then obviously been in a rural community

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Speaker 4: in a farming environment, they learn a lot of really

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Speaker 4: good life skills, getting up early work ethic, good attitude. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they are on farm for forty four weeks of the year.

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Speaker 4: They're not learning in a classroom.

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Speaker 2: Well, by the time they get to you, are they

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Speaker 2: cognizant sort of of what's required, ours, dedication, heartbreak, weather,

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Speaker 2: the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: There's a real max mark because we have some that

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Speaker 4: are all farms and have had some flying background, and

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Speaker 4: then we get a couple out of the urban centers

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Speaker 4: that have never been on a farm in their life.

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Speaker 4: So I'd say even some of the farming kids sometimes

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Speaker 4: realize it's a little bit more than what they see

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Speaker 4: they're doing or assume dare to do or mom I

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Speaker 4: should say, But yeah, they part of the onboarding is

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Speaker 4: very much that first three months when they're on farmers,

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Speaker 4: getting them used to farm last and realizing what it's

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Speaker 4: all about.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can't beat a boom and demand. I wish

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Speaker 2: you well with you call out for some help there.

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Speaker 2: Wendy Wendy Paul, who's the Growing Future Farmer CEO, thoroughly

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the supercars yesterday at Ipswich. I hadn't seen Ipswich

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Speaker 2: the competition for a while, but the race yesterday. The

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Speaker 2: two on Saturday were okay, but the one yesterday was

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Speaker 2: she is your new counselor in the car Huranaki seat

871
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: Hastings District Council. So she was standing against one person.

872
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: That person withdrew, so she wins by default. She got

873
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: no experience. You put a hand up, one person standing, congratulations,

874
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: jobs yours. What a stupid system. So this story is

875
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: far from unique. Of course, plenty of elections aren't even

876
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: held because no one stands, or people who may or

877
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: may not be any good don't get opponents, so they

878
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: win by default. So here's an idea, excepting we are

879
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: fantastically over governed, and clearly there are nowhere near the

880
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: number of people interested in filling the jobs. How about

881
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: we run a system whereby you have a minimum number

882
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: of candidates, like a quorum. If you don't get that

883
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: number of the voters off, the people if there are any,

884
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: do not contest that seat, and either the seat is

885
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: left vacant for a term, and or a commissioner or

886
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: overseer is appointed, like they've done in places like Towering

887
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 2: around that areas when the council falls apart. In other words,

888
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: you appoint an experienced expert. Having a vacant seat might

889
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: lead to more interest next time, or it might lead

890
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: to the realization there are too many seats. Having an

891
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: expert or a commissioner might lead to a realization that

892
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: amateur hour is no way to run a city or

893
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: a town or a district. We don't hand out regular

894
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: jobs by default. Why on earth do we do it

895
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: at the highest level of civic leadership. The scenario is

896
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: so desperate. We literally take anyone that's not smart running

897
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: a raffle far less a population, And yet here we

898
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: are with any number of councils, mide and debt and

899
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: handing out cost plus accounting rate rises because they don't

900
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: have a clue how to run anything properly. If someone

901
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: from Mars came down to review the way we do this,

902
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: they would fall over laughing at our stupidity. So it's

903
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: a contest, it's a quorum, or we do some appointing

904
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: of some actual talent. Now you tell me that's not

905
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: a bad idea. Asking as an MP for northernd Prime

906
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: might achieve very little, no treaty settlement, no roading, continue

907
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: poverty in housing, increased crime and unemployment. But she did

908
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: build herself a nice earth house, did she? Isn't it

909
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: true that Will a genius just as lazier Hipkins might

910
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: too early? Hasn't read that or this consistent disinterest until

911
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: challenged good leadership material yere right. It's not a bad point.

912
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean they've been exposed very very badly, Hipkins. It

913
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: was when we left your Friday Hpkins wouldn't get up

914
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: four six o'clock to appear on Ryan's program. This going

915
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: wants to be the prime minister of a country doesn't

916
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: get up before six o'clock in the morning. Mike Erica

917
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: Stanford for Prime minister? Just before you keep texting me

918
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: that and thank you Sir. A lot of people say

919
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: that they're very impressed with Erica Stamford at the moment,

920
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: asn't he They should be just because she and I

921
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: don't know she isn't. But just because she's a good

922
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: minister doesn't means you be a good leader. Doesn't means

923
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: you be a good prime minister. She may well be,

924
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: but some people have skill sets in specific areas, like

925
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, you can be good at one thing, but

926
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're good at being the boss. Mike another

927
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: pole with Labor a head. So your prediction doesn't stack up, Well,

928
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: it does stack up because I'll be proven to be right.

929
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: And a poll is but a snapshot in time if

930
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: you missed it. The latest Careier poll's got Labor overtaking national,

931
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: but it also has a lot of other random parties

932
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: like the top party booming and what were the other parties?

933
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: Don't even remember what the parties were, but they came

934
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: from now the living outside of pat exactly. There's about

935
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: four or five percentage points in that pole of parties

936
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: you've never heard of that have suddenly rocketed up, and

937
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: of course none of it makes any sense. So it's

938
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: a hung parliament at sixty one cents each. Mike seven

939
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: o'clock News Swarbrick would like to hold the finance portfolio.

940
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: You've got to be kidding me, Terry, I wish I was.

941
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: The news aforementioned is next, and then we will welcome

942
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister to the studio.

943
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 17: In't you.

944
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

945
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: The Mike Husking breakfast with Raindrover, Leading by example news,

946
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Tom's dead b.

947
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: Three minutes away from Monday morning went to Prime Ministers

948
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: in the studio. Very good morning to you.

949
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 5: Good morning, Mike. I've just come from TV and ZEAD.

950
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 5: They said they'd take you for celebrity treasure roll all

951
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 5: they did today.

952
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: And I know, I bus said, I don't think you'll survive. No,

953
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: I know, I know if I enter, I win, I've

954
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: got a one.

955
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: Mine, you'd be hopeless at it. Let's be honest about it.

956
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 5: You come in here, well, no, no, you've got to

957
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 5: help me with all your questions.

958
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: I got to say.

959
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 5: I think, I mean, it's nice you're going to give

960
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 5: it a go, but I can't see you surviving without

961
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: your pig screen TV ranting and raving it.

962
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

963
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: No, that's probably it's probably true. To be fair, did

964
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: you no insultant tendered at all? But did anything tangible

965
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: come out of the weekend with all? I mean apart

966
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: from we're all good friends and we all agree that

967
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 2: there needs to be a CE sprid et cetera.

968
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, here, and I've got quite a lot of sort

969
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 5: of regular contact their respective these sort of formal set

970
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: piece meetings. But the big thing was saying, hey, listen,

971
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 5: we've had this single economic market, we've had this cr

972
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: thing going for a while. We've got good you know,

973
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: we've made good progress on that over thirty years or so,

974
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 5: but we actually should revisit all of that and actually

975
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 5: say why on earth are our standards? And so we've

976
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: got our New Zealand standards, Australian standards bodies working together.

977
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 5: You've seen things like chartered accountancy bodies come together as

978
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 5: one organization. But he's got challenges within the states, within

979
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: the Australia that they sort of have differences of standards

980
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 5: and regulations and stuff. And if we can get rid

981
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 5: of some more of that stuff, it's not sexy stuff,

982
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 5: but it's actually does.

983
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: So we will come out of that.

984
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

985
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 5: So we've got the leaders We met with the Australian

986
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 5: News Old Leadership Forum, which is CEOs on both sides

987
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 5: of big businesses on each side of the Tasman and

988
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 5: we've tasked them to think through what more we could

989
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: be doing just the dumb stuff that's just idiolic that

990
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 5: we should get rid of.

991
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: Okay, P and G. Since you were last ye year

992
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: up there and we've got looking for an embassy, Now,

993
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: what was the point of that?

994
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 5: Well, P and g's quite important in the Pacific. It's

995
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: three quarters of the Pacific land mass, three quarters of

996
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: the Pacific population, and it's sort of I think I

997
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 5: said to eleven to fifteen million people did they have

998
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 5: to be on their census? And it's in the middle

999
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: of Asia and Pacific, and so it's actually quite an

1000
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 5: important country in the region. And you know, we've it's

1001
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 5: got growth, potentially young population and so there's actually New

1002
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 5: Zealand businesses that have actually been doing quite well up

1003
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 5: there and core infrastructure building and some development that's taking place.

1004
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: A lot was made of the fact you were there

1005
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: when you could have been in the cooks but you're

1006
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: not for obvious reasons.

1007
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 5: Was that deliberate? Well, I mean our message very clearly

1008
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: to the Coxes. We've got an issue with Cook Island's government. Actually,

1009
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 5: there's no political contact at this point where any officials

1010
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 5: work through what we can do to mitigate the risks

1011
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 5: that we see in those comprehensive strategic partnerships signed with

1012
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 5: China we had. Our issue is not with the Cook

1013
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: Islands people, but it is definitely with the Prime Minister

1014
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 5: and with the government there, and we expect them to

1015
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 5: engage with us on that conversation. So fifty year celebration,

1016
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: fifty year anniversary of P and G independence and you

1017
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 5: I was there.

1018
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: Right, mixed message from you last week you said the

1019
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: chances are fifteen percent, isn't coming down to ten. There's

1020
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: not a lot we can do about it. Fair enough.

1021
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: Why is McLean now in Washington?

1022
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: Then?

1023
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 5: I think our official trade officials, and I thought McLay

1024
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 5: was going, No, he's just he's been Indonesia.

1025
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: And ind just signed that I wanted, So he's not

1026
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: going to Washington. Well, he will go, but I just.

1027
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 5: Say it's not actually just about the tariffs. We actually need.

1028
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 5: What I'm trying to do with our relationship with the

1029
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: US since I started was to say it's not just

1030
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: leaders to leader, you know, Trump and I, it's actually,

1031
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 5: you know, it's actually making sure we know there's fifteen

1032
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 5: to twenty people that we've got to build out across

1033
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: that system. And so having ongoing dialogue conversation with him

1034
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 5: is the right thing to keep doing, irrespective of, you know,

1035
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 5: the fact we don't like the fifteen percent tariffs, and

1036
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 5: we can keep talking about it, but we also have

1037
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 5: to sort of accept I don't think it's changing, as

1038
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 5: I said last week, Okay, fair, but him having an

1039
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: ongoing dialogue is something I really want to see, Mike,

1040
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 5: because I think in the past we've just been very

1041
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 5: reliant on a prime minister and a president occasionally being

1042
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 5: able to talk. And in there, you need to talk.

1043
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: Pick up the phone to big senators, you need to

1044
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 5: pick up the phone to other sectories in the cabinet.

1045
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Indonesia, what did we get out of that? By

1046
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: the way, because that got no coverage? Is and agricultural deal?

1047
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: Was that dollars? Is it actual dollars?

1048
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1049
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 5: I mean Indonesia's one that we really want to work

1050
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 5: quite hard at. And I was due to go there

1051
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 5: earlier in the year and for a number of reasons,

1052
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: domestic issues, it didn't happen. I met with Praboo, who

1053
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 5: I got on very well with. But that's a massive economy.

1054
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 5: It's the largest economy in Southeast Asia. And the Australians

1055
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: have always done a good job since Keating and hawk

1056
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: On building out their relationship with Indonesia, and we've been

1057
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 5: you know, not haven't done that, and so we've got

1058
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 5: to build the relationship and get the connectivity in their

1059
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 5: Winston's got a good relationship with the team, the leadership there,

1060
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 5: Todd's building of the trade relationships, and it's a bit

1061
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: like the Indian experience, like we had to build that

1062
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 5: relationship back over a year period before we could then

1063
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 5: get in and do the I'm to do more conversationship.

1064
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: Shane Jones met with the gas users, Big gas users

1065
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: on is there anything coming out? I mean, what's the

1066
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: point We're out of gas, We're running out of gas.

1067
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: What's the point of a meeting?

1068
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1069
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, well, first thing is we've put in

1070
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: place of strategic coal reserve to make sure we don't

1071
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 5: end up in the disaster that we've had in the past.

1072
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 5: So people may not like the coal, but welcome. New

1073
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: Zealand's now the only country doing the transition from domestic

1074
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 5: guess international coal by virtue of the problems of the

1075
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 5: previous administration, and we've put the legislation in place to

1076
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: end the oil and gas band. There are real challenges

1077
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: about how do you actually get someone here incentivized to

1078
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: actually explore for and actually get gas out of New Zealand.

1079
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 5: That's been the chilling effect of that decision of any

1080
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 5: oil and gas. If you're a big global multinational, you're

1081
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: not putting hundreds of millions of dollars of assets in here.

1082
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: So we've had to design that legislation to make sure

1083
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Speaker 5: they understand that, you know, we're happy to co invest

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Speaker 5: with them to actually build back that.

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Speaker 2: Top two hundred million dollars. But equally, Balance announcers last

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Speaker 2: week they're running out of gas in September. They've got

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Speaker 2: a contract problem at that point. So is moderately important

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Speaker 2: given way I don't know a farming nation.

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Speaker 5: So there are two big gas supplies, you know, Balance

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Speaker 5: and also Methanathma, and both of them have actually been

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Speaker 5: running down their production over the last four years.

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Speaker 2: You can't have companies closing.

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Speaker 5: But this is what the point I've been trying to

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Speaker 5: make is it's a lovely bumper sticker. It really is

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00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 5: great to say you want to end the oil and

1096
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: gas bad but when you don't think through the second

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Speaker 5: and third order consequences of that, people end up losing

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Speaker 5: their jobs and good people. We don't want people coming

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Speaker 5: out of that sector and losing their jobs. So what

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Speaker 5: they can do at the moment is the gas that

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Speaker 5: they have, they've got to ration and reallocate and use

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Speaker 5: and all that sort of stuff. But that doesn't get

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Speaker 5: you far.

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Speaker 1: It does not.

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Speaker 2: Jones also mused about special economic zones, particularly up in Northland.

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Speaker 2: You did that late last week. It's not a coalition thing,

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Speaker 2: but is there something in that.

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Speaker 5: I've looked at specially economic zones because I was quite

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00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 5: a fan, you know, years ago. But the reality is

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00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 5: we're actually quite small and we should be able to say,

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00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: for goodness, say what we do in a special economic zone,

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00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 5: we should be able to do across the whole of

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Speaker 5: New Zealand. So, you know, getting the RMA sorted, I

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00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 5: personally think taking out regional councils, you know, that stuff

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Speaker 5: that Bishop will introduce by the end of the year.

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Speaker 5: The stuff that he's doing in the next week or

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00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 5: two around what's called Amendment Bill two will sort of

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Speaker 5: help get the thing moving a bit quicker.

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Speaker 2: Before you went to Queenstown, Hipkins was in Queenstown alluding

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Speaker 2: to the fact he may well run on capital gains tax.

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Speaker 2: Would you be happy to run a campaign.

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Speaker 5: I'll bring that on. I mean, like, you know, honestly,

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Speaker 5: if you seriously think a wealth tax, a capital gains

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Speaker 5: tax or inheritance tax. The thing that I was quite

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Speaker 5: alarmed about. You had Chloe Swarbrooks saying she wants to

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Speaker 5: be Finance Minister, and you didn't have Chriss Hipkins defend

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Speaker 5: Barb Redmonds. He didn't say he didn't rule it. He

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Speaker 5: didn't rule it out right, and that you know she

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Speaker 5: wants to add what forty four billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 5: more debt eighty eight billion dollars worth of taxes. I'm

1131
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 5: telling you it's very interesting. I know, if you've followed

1132
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 5: what's happening in the UK some of the changes that

1133
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 5: haven't made with their taxes. I've had CEOs and wealthy

1134
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Speaker 5: people leave with capital very very quickly, and that would

1135
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Speaker 5: happen here in his Zealand hard day, two billion pound

1136
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 5: our wealth creators and our generators. I'm telling you people

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 5: don't want to hear it, but they would take off well.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, the Maori Party would provide the balance.

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Speaker 5: Then with that three will it would be a wonderful

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Speaker 5: cabinet with Chloe as your Finance minister, co prime minister's

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Speaker 5: Rowori Debbie who else? We got to the mrama.

1142
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Speaker 2: As much as you may laugh the Qurier poll out

1143
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: the smaller has labor in front of you, explain it.

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Speaker 5: Well, pretty tough time. I mean I don't go into

1145
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 5: poles because every time there is a different pole every

1146
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: week in this country, and people don't want me to

1147
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 5: talking about myself for poles. I think the big trend

1148
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 5: is pretty obvious. People expect us to fix the economics

1149
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 5: as simple as that. So fix it and then in

1150
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six they'll make that call.

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Speaker 2: The boot camps eight out of ten reoffended. You guys, still,

1152
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: so it's a success. How do you defend it?

1153
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 5: Well, I mean the point is these are the toughest

1154
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: kids in the country. We've got to do something different

1155
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Speaker 5: because we were in a pretty bad place. The boot camps.

1156
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Speaker 5: There are elements of it worked well. When the kids

1157
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Speaker 5: are actually in the academies that went great, we'd probably

1158
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 5: want to extend that time to give them more that

1159
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 5: we clearly didn't manage the there's more work to do

1160
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 5: and manage them back into the community. And yes, there

1161
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 5: was reoffending that took place, But I just say, look,

1162
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 5: I mean people say I'll give up on the boot

1163
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 5: camps with points, Well we should. We've got to try

1164
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 5: doing something right. I mean, you just can't care leaving.

1165
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 2: No, you can't. But then the cost was the fact

1166
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: that I mean the amount of money you're pumped into,

1167
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: which it was enormous, it.

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Speaker 5: Was I get it, and it was a good you know.

1169
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 5: So we've got to take the learnings out of that

1170
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 5: pilot and actually sort of you know, get I think

1171
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: a longer academy phase and better community support for these

1172
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 5: tough kids. They've actually got a choice to make. All

1173
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 5: we're trying to do is give them an option to say,

1174
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: you know, we know where your life's going. It's a

1175
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 5: bad trajectory. You've got a chance to turn it around

1176
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Speaker 5: and do something different. This is that intervention to do it.

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Speaker 5: But I just say, the thing that's really encouraging is

1178
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Speaker 5: that actually our youth offending is down thirteen percent, ram

1179
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 5: raids are down almost sixty percent, and so that a

1180
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 5: general approach that we've had around consequences as got through

1181
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Speaker 5: to young people. And that's a good thing to see.

1182
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Speaker 2: I appreciate good see Prime Minister fourteen.

1183
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Speaker 1: To wait the Vike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

1184
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio now at News Talks.

1185
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Speaker 2: It'd be interesting thing I read over the weekend on parking.

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Speaker 2: You know where you go to a hospital in this

1187
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Speaker 2: country and of course you can't find parking anywhere because

1188
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: the local council's killed the parking, so you've got to

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Speaker 2: use the building near as the hospital, and the building

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Speaker 2: near is the hospital charges you're and so they put

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Speaker 2: some numbers around that. And the claim is that Health

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Speaker 2: New Zealand is working to quote unquote standardize its approach

1193
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: to car parking across the country, whatever that means. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: they brought in twenty three million dollars from parking chargers.

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00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: So you're not there because you're going shopping, you're there

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00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: to visit a relative. And the unfortunate thing about parking

1197
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Speaker 2: at hospitals is by and large nothing happens in a

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Speaker 2: hospital quickly, and therefore you're there for ages. Therefore the

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Speaker 2: bill goes through the roof. And we every single one

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Speaker 2: of us know somebody who's been in hospital and or

1201
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Speaker 2: had people visiting people in hospital that they had to

1202
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Speaker 2: go back day after day after day after day after day,

1203
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: and they basically ran themselves bankrupt. Parking the worst, not surprisingly,

1204
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: is white Matter in Auckland. Are They're two separate places.

1205
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Speaker 2: By the way, white Matter pulled in six point six

1206
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: million dollars. Now here's the thing I ask you. Last

1207
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: year they pulled in five point nine million dollars in parking,

1208
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: right this past year it was six point six. So

1209
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: when from five point nine to six point six, why

1210
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 2: what happened? Apart from the fact you put the price

1211
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: up because you can Auckland went from four point two

1212
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: to five point eight that same massive increase. Why apart

1213
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: from the fact you could round the rest of the country,

1214
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: it's not as bad. Canterbury one point five to one

1215
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: point seven, Capitol and Coast two point eight to three

1216
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: point one. Hut Valley actually went backwards. How come the

1217
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: Hut Valley went backwards but everyone else went out? I

1218
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: just don't care about the relatively it could be there

1219
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: no one visits. Ohs Nana's in there. Oh well we

1220
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: went last time. That was boring. We're not going again.

1221
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: But something's not right about parking. Are they gouging or

1222
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: is it just the cost of living? And it's not

1223
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: really their fault that there aren't parks on the street

1224
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: because the council's gone and destroyed it. It's a lot

1225
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: of money though, wasn't it eight minutes away from it?

1226
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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news dogs

1227
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Speaker 1: they'd be well.

1228
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Speaker 2: In Mike hung Parliament. How desperate are some of these

1229
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: polsters for a winter headline? Well that you can't barbar

1230
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: you can't blame them. They don't make it up. I

1231
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: question sometimes their methodology, but nevertheless they don't make it up.

1232
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Speaker 2: Morning Mike, I think this was one of your better

1233
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: interviews with the Prime ministeries growing in confidence, answering your questions.

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Speaker 2: Don't believe the Poles national will be thirty seven to

1235
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: forty two percent range by the election, Gary, there'll be

1236
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 2: more thirty seven to forty twos. Think about this friendly

1237
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: enough this morning. I think we've got to get past,

1238
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: and I don't think most people have caught up with

1239
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: a modern political reality, and that is that your Greens

1240
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: and act in New Zealand first. These days are here

1241
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: for the long haul. The days when we have an

1242
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: election where we go, oh, do you think they'll make

1243
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: the five percent? Maybe they will, maybe they won't, those

1244
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: days are gone. I can confidently sit here eighteen months

1245
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: out from an election and tell you that the Greens

1246
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: act in New Zealand First, without a shadow of a doubt,

1247
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: will be back now and depending on how far back

1248
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: they will be. But I mean, you've got to realistically

1249
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: look at the Greens. The Greens consistently poll at ten

1250
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: nine ten. They don't pull so well on the day itself,

1251
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: so they're a good eight. I reckon, they're all roughly

1252
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: within a margin. They're about eight each rough So you're

1253
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: suddenly at twenty four to twenty five percent. So think

1254
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: about it that way. You've only got seventy five percent

1255
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: of the vote left. So the days of the major

1256
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: parties getting to forty two percent had gone short of

1257
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: one of the major parties completely collapsing. I mean of hipkins,

1258
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, quetes and as a vacuum or if Luxon

1259
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: gets rolled and we all get sick of national and

1260
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: in fighting the way history tells us we have previously. Yes,

1261
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: a major party can collapse, but all things being equal,

1262
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: I think Hipkins will go to the election. I think

1263
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: Luxem will go to the election. So nothing dramatic is

1264
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: going to happen. So, all things being equal, the days

1265
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: of the major parties being at forty plus percent are gone.

1266
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: So the media has got to stop that they're nowhere

1267
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: near the forty percent mark. They're never going to be

1268
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: near the forty percent mark again. This is the maturation

1269
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: basically of MMP, where there's a good number of parties

1270
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: to select from. They're all reasonably and safely above the

1271
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: five percent threshold. They are in play. You listen to

1272
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: their policies, you look at the masinations and you work

1273
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: out who's going to run the country center left or

1274
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: center right. That's basically what it boils down to. So

1275
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: you're back down to seventy five percent for the rest

1276
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: of the parties once you've got rid of the Greens

1277
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: the Act New Zealand. First, you've got the Mari Party

1278
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: in there, which is sort of a problem given that

1279
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: there are an electric type party as opposed to a

1280
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: five percent, but they're worth two maybe three percent, So

1281
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: you're down into the low seventies. Now you've got a

1282
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: couple of percent at any given time for the wacko

1283
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: parties that'll be vote that's burned down. So you're really

1284
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: down at seventy percent. Split it evenly, it's thirty five max.

1285
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 2: And if one does better than the other, it's thirty

1286
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: six thirty four something like that. So the days are

1287
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: the big numbers for the major parties are well and

1288
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: truly gone right. You want to do the numbers for

1289
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: the Warriors sitting this morning at thirty win three of four,

1290
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: thirty six, thirty eight. Maybe are we top four? Top eight?

1291
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: Is it over the lads? In the commentary box? Next

1292
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Speaker 2: after the news, the news talks heading.

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Speaker 1: The news and the newsmakers the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural.

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Speaker 2: News talks head been Jersprung Room, It's into room, no run.

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Speaker 12: Carl will be the hapside bothmor you finish on twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Who will take the wind?

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Speaker 3: Big win.

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Speaker 19: Has been forty nine from other work two seventeen May

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Speaker 19: Queen teen go two from two in the NBC thirty

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Speaker 19: nine twenty two over County's Monago, and.

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Speaker 3: That's a convincing one to care debury feeding the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike asking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Go from Pine Andrews trouble both with us Monday Morning

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Speaker 2: Money fellas Mike Andrew Peter Lester, you will have known him, well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I did. Got to know him obviously during America's

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Speaker 3: Cup time, especially more so here when it was held

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Speaker 3: on Auctum what three or four years ago. Great man,

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Speaker 3: great sailor, great sailing brain, but was able to put

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Speaker 3: that great sailing brain to use for the general public.

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Speaker 3: Always really good at explaining things in layman's terms, if

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Speaker 3: you like Mike's. So yeah, what a what a great loss?

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Speaker 2: Did you know?

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason over the weekend.

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Speaker 20: Only through interviewing him and having him on many times.

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Speaker 20: Mike never got the chance to meet Peter Lester. But

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Speaker 20: exactly what sav said. I think his great strength which

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Speaker 20: not all former athletes and sports people have when they

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Speaker 20: come across the broadcasting as his ability to break it

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Speaker 20: all down to take the jargon out and there's a

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Speaker 20: lot of jargon and sailing as we know, and make

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Speaker 20: us all understand it. So yeah, a real loss, and

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Speaker 20: as I understand it, you know, was in great shape.

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Speaker 20: A real shock to everybody who found this news out

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Speaker 20: over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventies a bit makes you feel a bit mortal.

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Speaker 3: Sav You'd always see him walking through the viaduct, Mike

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Speaker 3: hannd Trim and in his jandles. He loved a good

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Speaker 3: pair of jandles. The Lester name synonymous with sailing in

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Speaker 3: Littleton and Banks Peninsula. And he was a huge Rugby

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Speaker 3: found a huge Crusaders fan. So yeah, big, big loss.

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Speaker 2: Jason the Warriors. It's over so pardon no, it's over.

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Speaker 2: Do it's top eight, top four. I mean, do you do,

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Speaker 2: either of you guys do the numbers in the sceense?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we'll win the three of the

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Speaker 2: last four. Let's say that we should win four or four.

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Speaker 2: But say we win three, we'll end up at thirty six.

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Speaker 2: That will that get us top four? I mean I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at the top four now, the Panthers on thirty one,

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Speaker 2: they're only a point above us and we get an

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Speaker 2: easy run.

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Speaker 3: The problem is you've got the Bronco, Sharks, Dolphins, Regina

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Speaker 3: and a couple of those teams are running into real

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Speaker 3: strong form.

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Speaker 20: I would say, though, the Panthers the Panthers, and I've

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Speaker 20: decided to be positive about this, Mike. The Panthers have

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Speaker 20: the Storm, the Raiders and the Bulldogs over the next

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Speaker 20: three weeks, so they play the other three teams in

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Speaker 20: the top four. They are only one point ahead of

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Speaker 20: the Warriors. The Panthers look, they're in great form nine

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Speaker 20: in a row and they could easily win all three

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Speaker 20: of those games, but they have a tough run. And

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Speaker 20: ye Warriors though they don't feel like a top four

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Speaker 20: side anymore, do.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't.

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Speaker 12: That's the main problem.

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Speaker 2: And if we're not top four. First of all, if

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Speaker 2: you're not top four, you don't win the competition.

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Speaker 3: That's that's right, yep.

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Speaker 2: And that's just a statement of fact. And even if

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Speaker 2: you look, we're not good enough.

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Speaker 3: The injuries have been well known. But now I think

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Speaker 3: you know that heavy loss to the Bulldogs over the

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Speaker 3: weekend some worrying signs that they'll make. Don't look, thirty

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Speaker 3: points usually gets you into the eight.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we'll be in the eighth, but that's not the

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Speaker 2: point of the eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're top we're top four and nothing as

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Speaker 2: far as I can say, I mean, that's that's I

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Speaker 2: think ultimately, Jason, what will take out of the season,

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Speaker 2: isn't it if we end up top four, maybe win

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Speaker 2: a playoff game, and that's about it. You've got to

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Speaker 2: be honest and say, that's a pretty decent season, all

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Speaker 2: things being considered with the other thirty, but apart from that,

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Speaker 2: it's not what it could have been should have been.

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Speaker 12: No, that's the thirteenth last season, Mike.

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Speaker 20: So look at the start of the season, say to

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Speaker 20: Warriors fans, you're going to make the eight, bite your

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Speaker 20: handoff for it.

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Speaker 12: Take Yep, we'll take that. That's great.

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Speaker 20: But having lived in the top four since what round six,

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Speaker 20: I think, mid eight, just when they entered the top

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Speaker 20: the top four, haven't haven't been out of the top

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Speaker 20: four since it is sort of petering out a little bit.

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Speaker 12: And yeah, look, I think now you're.

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Speaker 20: Aim for fifth or sixth, which means you get that

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Speaker 20: home playoff against the one of the one of the

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Speaker 20: teams in seventh.

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Speaker 12: Or eighth, but you're right outside of the top four.

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Speaker 20: I think Raided Storm, Bulldogs Panthers will be the top

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Speaker 20: four one of them, and deservedly so too.

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Speaker 3: And we've been saying it for a few weeks. Micer

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Speaker 3: is that you look at the top three or four

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Speaker 3: teams and the way they're playing differently, and add the

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Speaker 3: Broncos and the Roosters into that especially, it's a different lea,

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Speaker 3: a different thing.

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Speaker 2: The I've got a bit of pushback on this, sad,

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Speaker 2: but I just Richie Muwanga is so good that that

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Speaker 2: you want to trapes around to Japan and say please

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Speaker 2: come home, and he does and you want to cut

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Speaker 2: him a deal, then why not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd have an issue with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they should be able to come and go play,

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Speaker 2: should be able to do whatever they want. And if

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Speaker 2: they're available for the All Blacks, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they resign a deal with injured art and

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Speaker 3: then they should be available eligible. I'd be very surprised

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Speaker 3: if he doesn't see game time in July or in

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Speaker 3: that Springbok two next year. Kevin. The injury rate we

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Speaker 3: have in rugby these days, super rugby. I'd be very

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Speaker 3: surprised if we don't see him midyear.

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Speaker 2: Don't you reckon though, Jason, You've got to allow these guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this whole sabbatical. I mean, but they've sort

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Speaker 2: of angsted their way through what is just really just

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Speaker 2: a professional era where people go and imply their trade

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Speaker 2: for the best deal.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Richie molong The difference is he's not on sabbatical.

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Speaker 20: He not like Jordie and Ardie who are able to

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Speaker 20: come back and go straight back. And that's the reason

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Speaker 20: he isn't theoretically available to play for the All Blacks

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Speaker 20: until next October. But you're right, Mike, I mean, this

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Speaker 20: is like it or not, this is the professional era.

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Speaker 20: Richie Molonger can play three years in Japan, come back

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Speaker 20: for an NPC and Super Rugby campaign, go to a

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Speaker 20: World Cup, win the World Cup, and then go back

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Speaker 20: to Japan for another three or four years after that.

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Speaker 12: He's played a blinder, absolute blinding.

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Speaker 2: And if you're good enough, then good luck to you.

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Speaker 2: More in a moment, Andrew Cevil Jason Pine thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 10: It be.

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Speaker 2: News Talks at me sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Is Luke Littler stailing staying with you? Sev?

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Speaker 3: Who was that?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Luke Littler fellow PASTI eater?

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Speaker 3: Is he's staying with me? What do I remind am

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Speaker 3: I at all?

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Speaker 2: Just you know, certain guys like a beer and a

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01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: pasty sort of hang out at the ginner.

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Speaker 3: Now he's not staying with me. I wouldn't be getting

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Speaker 3: much sleep.

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Speaker 2: Probably he was, well, here's here's my problem. What would

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Speaker 2: you do if you were in my shoes? So he

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01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: so Chris Hopkins wouldn't get up for Ryan Bridge before

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Speaker 2: six o'clock to do an interviews. Now that's bad enough.

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Speaker 2: Luke Littler won't get up and do interviews before ten

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Speaker 2: in the morning, said about.

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Speaker 3: For God's sake, he's a finely tuned athlete.

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Speaker 2: No he's not. He's overweight and he tosses darts. It's

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Speaker 2: like I do want to I mean, what am I

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Speaker 2: supposed to do? And then come on? I mean ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: That's pathetic.

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Speaker 3: When when you're nineteen with the body of a sixty

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Speaker 3: year old, you need your sleep.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon? And I've got a dart But have

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Speaker 2: you got a dartboard? Jason, Yes, I have.

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Speaker 12: It's not up. We have one.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's it doesn't count mine's up as yours up, Andrew, yep. Right,

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Speaker 2: So when you throw, and do you measure back from

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Speaker 2: the board to the professional length? Yeah? Yeah, I do too,

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Speaker 2: So I can if you ask me to get a ten,

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Speaker 2: any ten, not a double or a triple, but just

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Speaker 2: a ten within three darts, I reckon. I could get

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Speaker 2: a ten nine times out of ten, right, yes, so,

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Speaker 2: because I don't know that darts, Yeah, I couldn't do

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Speaker 2: a double or a triple would be more luck. But

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Speaker 2: I could give you a ten and I could get

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Speaker 2: close to a double. If you said do a double,

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Speaker 2: I get close to a double. But my point being

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Speaker 2: this darts doesn't strike me as being particularly complicated, and

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Speaker 2: I reckon. And it's not physical, And so I reckon.

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Speaker 2: If I practice really hard, I could get moderately. Okay,

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Speaker 2: at it so.

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Speaker 3: Proves it's repetition, isn't it. You'd have to just train

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Speaker 3: and train it.

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Speaker 2: It must be you must be a robot. But also

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Speaker 2: the ability then it's all psychological to not freak out

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Speaker 2: under pressure.

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Speaker 3: And also you need to find a triple that takes

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Speaker 3: the edge off.

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Speaker 17: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: That's it? If you had just a couple of swigs,

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Speaker 2: you'd be just a bit more relaxed. Double ten so

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Speaker 2: much easier.

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Speaker 3: To My problem is that I throw my best starts

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Speaker 3: when there's no one around.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and do you tell that story? Do you go

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Speaker 2: I was really good and you go, jeez, that was

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Speaker 2: a good session.

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Speaker 3: In triple triple twenties all over the place, and then

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Speaker 3: when there's a crowd it just fall apart.

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Speaker 2: Well, I rest my case. That's the psychological. You've got

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Speaker 2: no mess, have you? If you ever put your board

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Speaker 2: up at Jason, would you be able.

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Speaker 3: To hit it?

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Speaker 12: I think so? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 20: It's the checkouts of the thing, aren't they And you

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Speaker 20: talk about the pressure. They've got to finish up a

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 20: double obviously, and they can you know, they can top

1508
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 20: you know, double tops or double six all day long

1509
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 20: when when there's no pressure on.

1510
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 12: But you know, when when they're up there and it's

1511
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 12: to win a leg or to win a match, sure.

1512
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 20: Now I've seen those top guys miss you know, three

1513
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 20: darts at double tops, So yeah, I think it's all

1514
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 20: about the pressure. Probably like a lot of other sports,

1515
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 20: it must be. Yeah, I think if you practiced, you

1516
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 20: might get quite good at it. A lot of guys

1517
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 20: are having a go at it now, aren't they.

1518
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's accessible, that's what That's my point. The

1519
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: point is there's no real restriction to you being able

1520
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: to play it at a reasonable level.

1521
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 3: Is that you just check check it up and you

1522
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 3: get way out to the reasonable leave it have to

1523
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 3: play a lot right to get to a reasonable like

1524
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,879
Speaker 3: a national title, Laura.

1525
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: Are you held because the guy's not there giving you

1526
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 2: the score? Do you have to add it up in

1527
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: your head and therefore it takes so much longer?

1528
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and minusing stuff as well. I can add but

1529
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: minus single them.

1530
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: Going from five oh one downs hard work.

1531
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: But you loot me. You know you've in your sporting career,

1532
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 3: you've mastered what were you like an NBA point guard

1533
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 3: at one stage or should have been?

1534
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was good from the outside arc.

1535
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: You're in the ATP top three thousand in the world

1536
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: for tennis, was it?

1537
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 11: I was.

1539
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 2: I played for the region, I'd play. Yeah, I've done

1540
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: a lot of really good sport actually.

1541
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 3: In Gold and then and then you you you reach

1542
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: your peak and then it's like, oh, I don't need

1543
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 3: to do this anymore. I'm too good. I reckon if

1544
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 3: you stuck to darts, I mean, look at Paul is

1545
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 3: it sorry? Snooker?

1546
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, snooker, Oh yeah, there's nothing holding me back on snooker.

1547
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: I've got some very good shots going these days. And sticker.

1548
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: But that's the other thing.

1549
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: Are you do you? Are you concerned or does your

1550
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 3: family concern that you it's all indoor like snooker, darts?

1551
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: Any FL preseason games on a Friday afternoon, you actually

1552
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: never get out of the house.

1553
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: Tell me both of you. NFL season, the pre seasons underway.

1554
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: I can see none of it. It's none of it's

1555
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: available in New Zealand preseason. I'm I'm seriously worried. I

1556
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: think TV ands it's got some NFL occasionally.

1557
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 5: Do you have that this year?

1558
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: You know?

1559
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: SAP and more importantly not to.

1560
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: I think, I think, I think so it's all it

1561
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: always does well. But isn't it on a NFL game

1562
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 3: day pass or something? Yeah?

1563
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: You got to buy a part. You gotta buy an

1564
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: app now. So not only do I have all my

1565
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: streaming service and now going to buy an app for

1566
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 2: the NFL design I was looking up this morning. You know,

1567
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: it's four hundred dollars. Four hundred dollars on design for

1568
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: the NFL season.

1569
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 12: You get every game, don't you get?

1570
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: Well, of course, of course you don't get every game,

1571
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: But I mean four hundred dollars to watch a singular

1572
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: sport for a singular season, while I'm already paying for

1573
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the streaming.

1574
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 3: Looking at a stat the other day, Mike and I

1575
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 3: think the TV revenue and streaming revenue that the NFL

1576
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: gets makes up about seventy percent of your revenue. You

1577
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 3: look at other americ you look at other American sports,

1578
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: and it's in the twenties and thirties. The amount of

1579
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: money because everyone wants a cut, right, everyone wants to

1580
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: screen a game or to stream a game. The amount

1581
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: of money is just compete. You could just pretty much

1582
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:04,839
Speaker 3: a almost add up the NBA ice hockey and baseball

1583
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: a baseball and it hardly gets close to NFL.

1584
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 2: Unreal. Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to I think

1585
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to poney up because I can't.

1586
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 3: I might make an investment.

1587
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Can't help cart pony in your coverage anyway. Nice to

1588
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: see you. Nice to see you guys. Catch up next week.

1589
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: Jason Pin Andrews Sevil.

1590
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Speaker 1: It's say twenty two the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vita

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities News.

1592
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Speaker 2: Togs Head b. Here's a question. Never landed from a

1593
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Speaker 2: long flight only to join a very slow moving queue

1594
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Speaker 2: at the rental desk. Well Avers knows that feeling, so

1595
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: they've done something about it. What they're introducing is these

1596
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Speaker 2: straight two car pickups. It's the first for New Zealand's

1597
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Speaker 2: rental car industry. It's smarter, faster. If you're an AVERS

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Speaker 2: Preferred member using the Avis app, you can skip the

1599
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Speaker 2: counter altogether, no paperwork, no delays, just unlocked the rental

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Speaker 2: car from your phone. Hit the roads. That easy. How

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Speaker 2: free to join. Whether you're a key we, heading on

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Speaker 2: holiday or traveling for business. You simply sign up, book

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Speaker 2: your car and your reservation appears in the app. Avers

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Speaker 2: then check she licensed electronically before you travel. When you arrive,

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Speaker 2: go straight to the car, unlocket in the app, grab

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Speaker 2: the keys inside and drive away. How good's this? It's

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Speaker 2: almost like they should have done it before. The services

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Speaker 2: available that selected locations conditions apply. So download the aviscar

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Speaker 2: rental app, go to Avis dot co dot in zed

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Speaker 2: faster Pasky twenty six. How about the mushroom crocker? Do

1614
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: you read about that over the weekend and you wondered

1615
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: what was going on behind the scenes that we didn't

1616
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: know about? It was all the suppressed stuff that got

1617
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:41,480
Speaker 2: made public. Simon husband, she'd fed him a little something beforehand.

1618
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: We didn't know about any of this. And the trial

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01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: three incidents twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, Simon was

1620
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: hospitalized with mysterious never explained illnesses after allegedly eating meals

1621
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: prepared by Erin, including she did them with the bolgnasy,

1622
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 2: did him with the chicken curry corma and also the

1623
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: vegetable curry rap.

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01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 5: So she's an adventurous shift.

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01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 14: You got to head it to her.

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 2: Does it reminded me as I was thinking about that.

1627
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: Did Steve ever apologize to me for me being wrong

1628
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: and me being right because he said she was getting

1629
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: off but he went on holiday and then he came

1630
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: back in island on holiday. I don't think we've ever

1631
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: had the official because he had. The conspiracy gets even deeper.

1632
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 2: Where was he? What was going on there? So Steve

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: Price is but moments away with what I'm assuming is

1634
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: a Philly grand apology for being completely and utterly wrong.

1635
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 2: That is after the news, which is next how News.

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 18: Talk to him?

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day, My

1638
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: casting Breakfast with our leader, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way

1639
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: News togs Hea'd.

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01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: Be Mike, great analysis of the party polling. Just now.

1641
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: If what you say is true, I agree with you.

1642
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: Then a consideration with thinking about it. We want to

1643
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: have center left or center right. Does the leader of

1644
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: the main party have the management skills to keep that

1645
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: coalition going on a full term on and that Luxon

1646
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 2: does well. I just don't think that Hipkins has the

1647
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: ability to manage the Greens and TMP. I'd go as

1648
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: far as to say that I don't think they would

1649
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: ever want to be compliant coalition partners. I think that's

1650
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: probably true. It's one of the many issues that we'll

1651
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 2: deal with in more depth next year, and it's the

1652
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: reason that this current government will be re elected. I'm

1653
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: absolutely convinced because one history shows generally the government gets

1654
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 2: a second term. But once you go down the track

1655
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: of the damage done to the economy, you then put

1656
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: that directly back on the plate of the Labor Party.

1657
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 2: And that's before you get to the third part, which

1658
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: of course is explained to us how the Greens and

1659
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: the Maori Party are going to work together. Mike, you're

1660
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: a betting man. I bet your bottle of your best

1661
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: wine that national get high thirties before the election on

1662
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: the back of improvements in education, the economy, health, law

1663
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: and order and overall confidence in New Zealand. The left

1664
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: will blow up. Gary. I can't take your bet because

1665
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: I think you're right high thirties. If you call high

1666
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: thirties thirty seven, I reckon they're good for thirty seven.

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: I've said before that the days of forty for the

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: majors are gone. So if you're doing well, you're traveling well,

1669
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: thirty seven. You add the seven or eight or nine

1670
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 2: whatever for act in New Zealand first year the government

1671
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. So I think you're right,

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: So I can't take the bit. Sorry. Twenty two to.

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Speaker 16: Nine International Correspondence with ends in eye Insurance Peace of

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01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 16: Mind for New Zealand business by we go through Las.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning for you. Hello that now the Palestine.

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01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: Of course, Elbow was in Queenstown for about twenty four

1677
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: hours over the weekends. I'm sure you're well aware. And

1678
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: they did yet again sort of semi reiterate that they

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01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: kind of would like a ceasefire and might one day

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: possibly recognize Palator whatever the case may be. But where

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01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: are you at with recognizing Palestine as a state? Yeah?

1682
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 13: Look, I note the Queenstown meeting, and I note the

1683
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 13: Prime Minister's comments, both of them from down there, but

1684
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 13: back home on home, so Anthony I have an easy

1685
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 13: his treasure. Jim Chalmers and his Foreign Minister Wong have

1686
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 13: been a lot more forceful on that. The quote that

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 13: I keep coming back to his charmers saying it's a

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 13: matter of when not if that we recognize Palestine. Well,

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01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 13: I'm not sure that flying back from Queensland, Albo would

1690
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 13: have been too happy when Prime Minister net Now, who

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01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 13: stood up called Australia shameful preparing for preparing to recognize

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 13: the stallion Palestinian statehood. He said that those who say

1693
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 13: that Israel has a right to defend itself were also saying,

1694
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 13: but don't exercise that right. And this is a direct quote,

1695
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 13: I quote from Nett now a you, I think we

1696
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 13: are actually applying force judiciously and they know it. They

1697
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 13: know as in Australia they would do it. If right

1698
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 13: next to Melbourne or right next to Sydney you had

1699
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 13: this horrific attack, I think you would do at least

1700
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 13: what we're doing. And then the little jab at the end,

1701
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 13: although maybe not as efficiently and precisely as we're doing it.

1702
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 13: So you can't read anything but that he's angry about

1703
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 13: what Australia said.

1704
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 2: It would do the difficulty for people like I mean,

1705
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 2: Wong is one that different from Albanezy or does he

1706
01:17:59,000 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 2: just cover it?

1707
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 13: The latter very astute of observation from you. They're both

1708
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 13: from the hard left. She's the Treasurer, she's probably going

1709
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 13: to do one term. A sorry's Foreign Minister. She's probably

1710
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 13: only going to do one term and then retire. He

1711
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 13: wants to be Prime Minister again. After this latest labor government,

1712
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 13: so he wants to go around again, so he tends

1713
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 13: to cover it up much better.

1714
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 2: So then we come to the EV's and I read

1715
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: this report. I can't remember the body, but it was

1716
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: someone like the Productivity Commission was recommending the other day

1717
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: that you drop your subsidies for your evs. Where are

1718
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: you at with that? And then paying their way on

1719
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,759
Speaker 2: the road, Well.

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Speaker 13: We're nowhere.

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01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: I mean.

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 13: The former Treasurer of Victoria, Tim Pallis, tried to introduce

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 13: a road user levy on electric vehicles basically got hold down,

1724
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 13: including by people in Canberra, I should say, And so

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01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 13: it's a free for all the moment. People who use

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 13: petrol play the petrol xis that's supposed to be go

1727
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 13: into a pot of money to fix row which doesn't happen.

1728
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 13: The roads in Victoria in particular an absolute disgrace. People

1729
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 13: are ruining vehicles in massive potholes. So Jim Charmers is

1730
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 13: having this round table a couple of weeks time. They're

1731
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 13: going to sit around and talk about ways to raise taxes,

1732
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 13: it seems. And the Australian reports this morning that this

1733
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 13: big Productivity Commission, as you mentioned, plus the Department of

1734
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 13: Treasure in Victoria, and you're South Wales and a bloke

1735
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 13: who runs transerv and are going to sit down and

1736
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 13: try and nut out a way to charge evs now, Transurban.

1737
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 13: I don't know how many toll roads you have in

1738
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 13: Neue Zealand. I know you have that one out of

1739
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 13: hook On, but we've got them everywhere, particularly in Melbourne Sydney.

1740
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 13: You can't drive around without your toll thing pinging. So

1741
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 13: this bloke from Transurban will be in on this meeting.

1742
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 13: The only thing you can think, oh, is they're going

1743
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 13: to come up with the way to charge evs. The

1744
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 13: Australian understands that there would be a really strong debate

1745
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 13: about this. But and you'd have to carve out parts

1746
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 13: of regional Australia which are massive. You can't have you know,

1747
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 13: evs that might be operating out in the bush. They

1748
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 13: have to drive long distances, so if this thing's based

1749
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 13: on a distance then they would be unfairly punished. So

1750
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 13: it will come, I believe, And I note that you did,

1751
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 13: in fact, in New Zealand have some plans unveiled the

1752
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 13: other day about.

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going down the see we've got a mess

1754
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: of a system. We have what the rucks road user chargers,

1755
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: So if you run diesel or you run a truck,

1756
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: you've got to buy your miles at the moment. But

1757
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 2: we also have tax on petrol. Do you have tax

1758
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: on petrol? And also the ability to pay for miles

1759
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: or whatever.

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01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's an excise on petrol that everybody pays. Truckies

1761
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 13: can claim back what a diesel tax, they can claim

1762
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 13: that back as part of their operations. But the rest

1763
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 13: of us pay petrol excise constantly and the roads don't

1764
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 13: seem to get any better.

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 4: So it is a mess.

1766
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 2: Okay. So then there's private members bill who is it

1767
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: government or opposition on the ability to defend yourself independacle.

1768
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 13: David Lindbrick in Melbourne comes from a Libertarian party and

1769
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 13: he is putting through this bill that would look at

1770
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 13: Britain's it's called their Castle doctrine where you're allowed to

1771
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 13: defend yourself. An individual can use potentially deadly force to

1772
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 13: defend themselves when anyone intrudes into your home. Now those

1773
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 13: laws you know you can actually if you have acted

1774
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 13: in what police think is a reasonable self defense, then

1775
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 13: you're okay. And that includes killing someone.

1776
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 5: Wow.

1777
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 13: So currently in this country you basically can't touch anyone

1778
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 13: that comes through your front door and if you do

1779
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 13: you could be up for serious charges. And so this

1780
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 13: law will go before the Victorian Parliament. It won't get up.

1781
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 13: But the reason I raise it is that shows you

1782
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 13: how frustrated.

1783
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: And frightened people are.

1784
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 13: So many people in suburban Melbourne are youngsters coming through

1785
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 13: the front door with machetes in their hands.

1786
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 2: Hey, just a trip down memory lane if you wouldn't

1787
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: mind for a couple of moments. You went away before

1788
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: you went away on holiday, and then I went away

1789
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: on holiday after you came back. We did have a

1790
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: discussion about a woman called Aaron Patterson, who you may

1791
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: remember wasn't caught. And I think the final words before

1792
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 2: you went on your holiday to Japan was something like

1793
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: your wife's right and you're wrong and I'm right, and

1794
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. And I'm just thinking that the

1795
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: things have happened Steve in that ensuing period of time

1796
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: that maybe you want to revisit.

1797
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 13: Well, I still support your watch, you want this even

1798
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 13: though both of us were slightly off. I'll beat about

1799
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 13: the result. She's in jail she hadn't been sentenced yet,

1800
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 13: she's going to get a long term yes, and a

1801
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 13: whole bunch of stuffs that coming out that was not

1802
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 13: allowed to be reported on.

1803
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: During Exactly Ryle exactly does indicating perhaps I saw in

1804
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: her what some didn't see with her, with her vast

1805
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: array of cooking, her bolognaise and her corner and a.

1806
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 13: Wrap, and I'd rather not go round to her place

1807
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 13: for dinner.

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01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 2: See Wednesday appreciate very much. See Price Out of Australia

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Speaker 2: eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b Poor Transit van celebrated sixtieth birthday over the

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Speaker 2: weekend nineteen sixty five August of sixty five, In fact,

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Speaker 2: precisely August nine of sixty five. It came out of

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Speaker 2: Langley in Berkshire. Very space is very powerful, very practical,

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Speaker 2: very comfortable, sharp handling. You couldn't want any more and

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Speaker 2: so it's still matt the biggest selling van ever. Thirteen

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Speaker 2: million have been built so far. Collaboration between Ford in

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: the UK and Germany at the time, aimed mainly at

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01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: the British and European markets. Nineteen seventy two, the met

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01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: as in the police said transits were used in ninety

1822
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,799
Speaker 2: five percent of all bank robberies. Good getaway car, perfect

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01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: getaway vehicle. Then they moved it. Unfortunately they closed down

1824
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: and started making them in Turkey. They still claim that

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01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: it's sort of got a UK connection in Dunton in Essex.

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01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: But apart from that poor transit van by the way,

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01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: there was no real coverage. I suppose it doesn't really matter.

1828
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 2: But the boundaries got put out on Friday. The realignment

1829
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: of the bound population what it did prove apart from

1830
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: anything else as far as I mean, there's a number

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01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: of electorates that have moved a little bit here and

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01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: a little bit there, and you lost a suburb there,

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01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 2: or a couple of streets or whatever. None of that

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: really matters. But the changes are largely in Auckland. The

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01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: Bay are plenty christ Dutch in the lower of North Island.

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01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: The reason there, nineteen electorates, by the way, are unchanged.

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: The boundaries of forty nine general and three Maori have

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01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 2: been adjusted to some degree. It affects about twenty percent

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01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: of us in the North Island three percent of the

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01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: South Island. It's ironic, isn't it? Three percent next to

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01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: Noe and seven percent of the population that's been growing

1842
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 2: in the South Island. Seven percent growth of the population.

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01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: It's extraordinary in a country that brings a next to

1844
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: no immigrants anymore net gains, the South Island has been

1845
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 2: growing seven percent. Now by law they can only have

1846
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: sixteen seats. That seems stupid, doesn't it. Of all, the

1847
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: people move from one island to another, and the electorates

1848
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 2: traditionally based on the size of the population of the people.

1849
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: Then if the people have moved, then why would you

1850
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: have a law that says you can't have more seats?

1851
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: That make literally no sense to me? O Taki Marna

1852
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: and Aharia Wellington. That area reconfigured into two electorates. Company

1853
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: in Kenni Peru. I know that Nikola Grigg who she

1854
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: now lives outside of her electorate as in Selwyn, she

1855
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: doesn't live in Selwyn anymore. I don't know that that's

1856
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: the biggest deal in the whole world. But apart from that,

1857
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: they had they put their rulers and pencils away for

1858
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: another three years and there you go, ten away from nine.

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Speaker 1: She's the make Hosking breakfast with rainthrow Bern used Tom's

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01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: dead be Mike.

1861
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 2: Matt Pain currently second on the Supercars Championship. He's booked

1862
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 2: a spot for the finals at Adelaide. James a very

1863
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: good point. I just looked it up and you are correct,

1864
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 2: and not that I didn't believe you. I thought, well,

1865
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: how's that possible given Brown? But if you were watching

1866
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: the race yesterday, Brown got spun. It's one of the

1867
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: weird things about motor racing. So Brown was right up

1868
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: the top of the field along with Fiene and guy

1869
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: came behind him and spun him, and the guy got

1870
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds for it, but Brown never had covered and

1871
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 2: he got next to no points in the race because

1872
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: he came towards the back of the field. So Pain

1873
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: did well.

1874
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 17: So he is.

1875
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: You're right, He's second in the championship and Ryan Wood's.

1876
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 17: The other one.

1877
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 2: I'm thoroughly enjoying at the moment. He's a real talent.

1878
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: I know Murphy's working with him, but he seems to

1879
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: be a real talent. And Pain's good because he's only

1880
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: been there about three years. I think this is his

1881
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 2: third season and he's he's right up there with the Beaston,

1882
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: which is fantastic, So that's encouraging Laney Wilson. If you're

1883
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: a country music fan, she's coming to the country for

1884
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: the first time, so you'll be pleased about that's This

1885
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: is all part of the World Wind World Tour. She's

1886
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: on tour through America as we speak, and comes to

1887
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 2: us in the early part of next year in Auckland

1888
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 2: and christ Church. Tickets will go on sale this Friday,

1889
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 2: but you don't need to wait for that because you

1890
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 2: can head to our Breakfast Facebook page or our Instagram

1891
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 2: page and you can win one of the first double

1892
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: tickets going because she's already given them to me because

1893
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: I talked to her. I said, Laney, you got any

1894
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: tickets for your show? And she said, Mike for you,

1895
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: no problem. And I said, can you come on the

1896
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: program on this coming Tuesday, and she said, Mike for you,

1897
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: no problem. So she's given us some tickets. So it's

1898
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: on the Facebook page and the Instagram page and she

1899
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 2: will be turning up tomorrow on the program as far

1900
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: as the tickets are concerned. By the way, we'll make

1901
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: the draw on Friday. Five away from nine.

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01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:13,400
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Speaker 2: Day If you're following the league trainer gate two point zero.

1904
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: So what happened was the Panthers trainer runs in front

1905
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: of the Titans kicker last week as he was about

1906
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: to take the conversion, and he would go on to miss.

1907
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: It was the weirdest thing. And as you saw it happened,

1908
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: you thought, how is this even remotely possible? Slash legal?

1909
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 2: And of course it isn't. So those two misspoints meant

1910
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 2: that clearing the younger of could kick the long field

1911
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 2: goal and tie up the game. Eventually go on to

1912
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: win an overtime, which means they've won now nine in

1913
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 2: a row. Wouldn't it be good to be part of

1914
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: a team that runs nine in a row?

1915
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 3: Hey?

1916
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: Anyway, is that the greatest league story? If they go

1917
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: from last to win at all? Is that as good

1918
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: as we've ever seen? So they were fine the Panthers

1919
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: fifty k not that they care. Training was suspended for

1920
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 2: five games now. Another trainer hasn't been involved this time

1921
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 2: is the Cowboys eels last night.

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01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 12: He's going to pass u.

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01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 9: Gate.

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01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 20: That's five rus they get five that day it hits

1925
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 20: the trader.

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01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 12: Dad, leave the gate out of it. But seriously, is there.

1927
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 3: Any need for the traders to be out there so

1928
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 3: early to s two teles like two.

1929
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 12: Passes into getting the ball boy?

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01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 19: What are we doing pretty blandis you've got work to do.

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01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 12: Ground managea laying down the lord of the trader. He

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Speaker 12: may have the stops out in the back.

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Speaker 2: That would be a bit extreme, very good. The NROL

1934
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Speaker 2: are investigating, but you've got to do something about it.

1935
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Speaker 2: Don't get the Joe is the guy who just goes.

1936
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, well, you're getting paid for that?

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Speaker 15: Is that?

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Speaker 2: You're so funny? That's us for the day. As I mentioned,

1939
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Speaker 2: Laney Wilson's on after eight o'clock tomorrow morning, so the

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Speaker 2: pressure is on Sam to produce something pretty good between

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Speaker 2: six and eight, isn't it. I mean, if you've got

1942
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Speaker 2: Laney coming on post eight o'clock, the first couple of

1943
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Speaker 2: hours better be good. So he's off to do that

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Speaker 2: will afford to your company From six tomorrow, Happy Days.

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