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Speaker 1: The government's introducing harsher rules for overseas online casinos. This

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Speaker 1: is while also allowing them to advertise here. A limited

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Speaker 1: number of licenses will be available for three year terms,

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Speaker 1: and the operators will be required to meet certain standards

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Speaker 1: before they can offer services. Andre Food is with the

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Speaker 1: Problem Gambling Foundation. She's with me this morning, Andrew, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being here. I wonder with online hello, I

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Speaker 1: wonder with online gambling, is it actually just too hard

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Speaker 1: to regulate period?

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Speaker 2: But that's a really good question, and I know that

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Speaker 2: around the world, you know, regulators have battled with this

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Speaker 2: because there are so many operators out there. But regulation

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Speaker 2: is the right approach and we totally agree with regulation

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Speaker 2: and having a licensing system. But obviously there's a lot

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Speaker 2: more detail to come yet, and we want to make

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Speaker 2: sure that there's really robust harmonimization and consumer protection at

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Speaker 2: the forefront of any approach to this regulation.

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Speaker 1: Because if you are a problem gambler and you really

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Speaker 1: want to gamble online, you I mean, where there's a will,

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Speaker 1: there's a way. Surely you'll get a VPN, you'll work

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Speaker 1: around our laws in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not illegal for New Zealanders to gamble on

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Speaker 2: these sites, and what people don't generally understand is that

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Speaker 2: they're not protected by New Zealand law. So while they

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Speaker 2: can gamble on these sites, you know, if something happened,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't get their money out or whatever the situation

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Speaker 2: might be, they don't they're not protected by our laws

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Speaker 2: and our Gambling Act.

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Speaker 1: And so these changes, they're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: advertise legally in New Zealand. Now, Yes, yeah, so, because

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Speaker 1: I mean I get fed ads that are you know,

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Speaker 1: for gambling things, and when you go online, I think

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Speaker 1: everybody gets that through Google or whatever it is. Do

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Speaker 1: you think we're going to see more ads now that

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Speaker 1: it's legal or do you think it will just be

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Speaker 1: the same.

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Speaker 2: Look, we've been absolutely bombarded with ads in this country,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of that has been because this market

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Speaker 2: here is largely unregulated, you know, in terms of online

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Speaker 2: gambling regulation. We're about the last country, you know, the

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Speaker 2: last cab off the rank in terms of that. So

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Speaker 2: we have been targeted. Even though it is illegal for

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Speaker 2: the advertising of online of overseas online gambling at the moment,

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Speaker 2: we've still seen these ads. As you said, you know,

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Speaker 2: social media, they're everywhere so yes, we will see more

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Speaker 2: of it, but what we do hope is well, we'd

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Speaker 2: really like to see the advertising as gambling band completely,

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Speaker 2: but if that's not going to happen, we really really

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Speaker 2: need to see strict measures in place to limit the

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Speaker 2: volume of advertising and put restrictions around the time when

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Speaker 2: gambling can be advertised. I mean it's age restricted. We

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Speaker 2: don't the ads on TV during peak time when children

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Speaker 2: might be watching, for example, with advertising or certainly not tobacco,

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Speaker 2: so gambling is no different and we need to see

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Speaker 2: much tougher restrictions around that.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: That's Andrew Food the Problem Gambling Foundation. For more from

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